LEGENDARY VENGEANCE! Modern Esper Goryo. Grief Scam with Psychic Frog and Reanimator. MTG MH3

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  • Опубліковано 10 вер 2024

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  • @splatkirby6056
    @splatkirby6056 Місяць тому +14

    I liked how you gave your opponent props over the course of round 1. Really pleasant to just see you point out what they were doing right.

  • @projetogamer828
    @projetogamer828 Місяць тому +36

    Esper scamnimator is taking over even this format too?

    • @derekcline950
      @derekcline950 Місяць тому

      When Modern bans Nadu and Legacy bans Grief... Modern will become Scam and Legacy will become Nadu

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Місяць тому +29

      Literally yes.

  • @thomass1750
    @thomass1750 Місяць тому +19

    Goryo's + Emrakul was my entry point into modern. I played this deck before MH3 quite a bit. I hate it.

  • @poultrylord7300
    @poultrylord7300 Місяць тому +12

    The first smoke detector made me think i was losing my mind lol

  • @derekcline950
    @derekcline950 Місяць тому +13

    Rhymezone says Goryo rhymes with Cornsnow. Thanks Rhymezone!

  • @DisgruntledElk
    @DisgruntledElk Місяць тому +8

    at 17:47 I believe we are supposed to mainphase 1 fetch, surveil in hopes of hitting atraxa/grisel since we already have the ephemerate + goryo's

  • @terrencecomella4337
    @terrencecomella4337 Місяць тому +3

    That smoke detector chirp sent my dog into a murderous rage and I paused the video for five minutes waiting for one of my smoke detectors to beg for a new battery. Thanks for mentioning it the second time or I'd never know it was all _your_ fault 😜

  • @aquablue3dsi
    @aquablue3dsi Місяць тому +2

    Was listening to the league when I heard the two beeps. Started turning the house inside out trying to figure out which one was out of juice. LMAOOOOOO

  • @RickHardpack
    @RickHardpack Місяць тому +15

    1:26:05 What happens if you Consign the madness trigger here? Does that leave Emmy in exile?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Місяць тому +20

      That didn't even occur to me. Looking back at some Stifle vs. Madness rulings on the internet, seems it would remain exiled. That would have saved me a mana that combat and bricked the Cookbook. Great catch!

  • @ppshmcwb5
    @ppshmcwb5 Місяць тому +1

    Love that you are playing this deck now. It’s surprising harder than it first looks at least for me. For Eldrazi and tron I think 4 consign is mandatory as countering the card and the cast trigger is a huge blow out. Frog isn’t as good since they can top deck a haymaker and destroy you. Match up doesn’t feel good unless you quickly reanimate with counterspell back up. I have been messing with Emperor of bones for this match up as you are able to scam the big eldrazis and eat them with Emperor. Touch match up I’ve even considered putting the white sprint that destroys lands so you can destroy 3 lands with ephemerate but I’m not sure if a 2/2 is fast enough to help close the game.

  • @jilalgaming7573
    @jilalgaming7573 Місяць тому +2

    Probably got told by now but niche interaction by consigning the madness trigger of emmy, it keeps the emmy in exile making them unable to cast it or return it with cookbook.

  • @ummdamion6445
    @ummdamion6445 Місяць тому +6

    Goryos and Frog, I am happy 🥰

  • @p1k4nurxp13sr
    @p1k4nurxp13sr Місяць тому +2

    I feel like we’re getting some weird audio crackle, at least in the deck tech

  • @ayb109
    @ayb109 Місяць тому +1

    1:27:07 could you consign only the Emrakul trigger and let the creature resolve so opponent can't pick it up and recast? I think you're ahead in the race with Atraxa's lifelink. If opponent keeps Emrakul back to block you can dig for Ephemerate to exile her with a not-cast-this-turn Solitude.

  • @John_Doe742
    @John_Doe742 Місяць тому +2

    smoke detector pack, change your batteries if you got them

  • @Shattered_Universe
    @Shattered_Universe Місяць тому +3

    R2G1: could you have pitch-cast the Grief and stacked triggers to force them to Kozzi it for the Ephemerate and get both their spells? It would have maybe bought another turn to find another creature…

  • @scottlatta5348
    @scottlatta5348 Місяць тому +2

    Ulamog is also a good reanimate target, especially if you pitched a Griselbrand with Grief's evoke cost. Frog can end a game in a turn with a draw 7 from Griselbrand or draw half your deck with Tamiyo ult. I love the deck. Baby Jace and Emperor of Bones are reasonable for the deck too. Flare of Denial using archeologists has seen game too since there are times when archeologist is a meh card.

    • @ppshmcwb5
      @ppshmcwb5 Місяць тому +1

      I’ve really like Flare bc everyone waits to use their counterspell or hate when you cast goryos. I wanted ulamog to be good but it doesn’t help you find ehpemerate but does help you end the game without one. Bad early if you don’t get any counters on him.

    • @scottlatta5348
      @scottlatta5348 Місяць тому

      @@ppshmcwb5 These are true. So far my favorite reanimation target is Griselbrand. Draw 14. Pitch 14 to frog and end the game as both crash in. lol

  • @Dhips.
    @Dhips. Місяць тому +1

    Summer of Grief has a few weeks to go. How messed up would it be if they didn't ban the card at all.

  • @Cowter4
    @Cowter4 Місяць тому +4

    I hate this deck. I hate playing against it, I hate playing it. It would feel super brutal to play against even if they couldn’t ephemerate their big monster, but when they do?

    • @lightworker2956
      @lightworker2956 Місяць тому

      Yeah, that's also how I feel about decks that sometimes have unbeatable draws and sometimes have draws that do nothing (you know, to a significantly greater extent than average decks).
      I don't want to play those decks and have many games where I do nothing, and I don't want to play against them and have many games where I get blown out.

  • @infamousgerald
    @infamousgerald Місяць тому +2

    1:18:00 that was gangsta

  • @humanfactorsio
    @humanfactorsio Місяць тому +1

    Brian, thank you once again for your service... Just as I once again am cuddling up into bed, looks like this girl will stay up a bit longer 💗

  • @Propriated4one
    @Propriated4one Місяць тому +3

    FroYo. Nice.

  • @sisyphean0
    @sisyphean0 Місяць тому +7

    Match 1 game 3 ending couldn't you have fetched the last surveil land to try and get Atraxa or Griseldaddy into the yard to Vengeance it back plus ephemerate? It is a small chance but always play towards your outs?

  • @LucksackGames
    @LucksackGames Місяць тому +2

    13:30 This is the Pro Tour! *Jokes*

  • @nooneatall5612
    @nooneatall5612 Місяць тому +3

    How come preordain doesn't make the cut in this sort of deck?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Місяць тому +1

      The deck is packed with good cards. Which 4 good cards would you cut to make room for a card that spends mana to find good cards? Maybe if Grief or Frog get banned slots will open up to focus on the other packages, but right now there's no room.

    • @nooneatall5612
      @nooneatall5612 Місяць тому +1

      @@BoshNRoll It's hard to say and math is required. I'm not sure about suggestions because I haven't invested time in the deck, just surprised that a highly combo reliant deck doesn't have them. Just like if suddenly tomorrow you could play 5 ofs in this deck we would think that it's very likely that we should cut something to bump a card to 5, but not exactly sure what because the deck is so tight.

    • @lightworker2956
      @lightworker2956 Місяць тому +1

      I agree. Admittedly I haven't played this deck, but on paper a deck with a bunch of cards that do nothing by themselves yet are insane when combo'd (ephemerate, Griselbrand, etc) would benefit from Preordain.
      Not to mention that usually in order to actually win the game, this deck needs:
      - Frog + probably discard to get rid of the enemy's removal spell
      - Goryo's Vengeance + fatty + discard outlet (or a lucky surveil etc)
      Which isn't trivial to assemble. As good as incarnation + ephemerate is, it probably won't win the game by itself unless backed up by Frog or Goryo's Vengeance, hence the case for Preordain.
      Hard to say with 100% confidence what to cut, but maybe -1 Priest, -1 Prismatic, -1 Thoughtseize (can move it to the sideboard maybe), -1 land. Yeah, sure, those are somewhat painful cuts, but you can always argue that real cards look sweeter than cantrips, and yet cantrips are good in decks that want to assemble combos like this one does. If putting a higher total number of sweet cards in the deck was more important than consistency, we'd all be playing 100 card decks.

    • @nooneatall5612
      @nooneatall5612 Місяць тому

      @@lightworker2956 Yeah I think your changes for example make a lot of sense. Would test them if I were to actually spend time on that deck.

  • @besheveledbear4568
    @besheveledbear4568 Місяць тому +1

    So we the bad guys today

  • @bobcheng3897
    @bobcheng3897 Місяць тому +1

    Is it a detriment to the deck if Flooded Strand can't get the GB surveil land?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Місяць тому +4

      Any time you have dual lands across 4 colors, no fetch land will be able to get them all. You just have to do the best to balance what's important.

    • @bobcheng3897
      @bobcheng3897 Місяць тому

      @@BoshNRoll I can't believe I didn't realize the green was a 4th color lol. Thanks for explaining!

  • @THE_BASED_GOD
    @THE_BASED_GOD Місяць тому +1

    Is your channel name a reference to anything?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Місяць тому

      Bosh, Iron Golem and MoshNRoll by Bury Your Dead.

    • @THE_BASED_GOD
      @THE_BASED_GOD Місяць тому

      @@BoshNRoll YES I KNEW IT WAS BURY YOUR DEAD. BURY YOUR FUCKING DEADDDDDDD

    • @THE_BASED_GOD
      @THE_BASED_GOD Місяць тому

      @@BoshNRoll I KNEW IT. Metalcore/hardcore fan?

  • @DKforever24
    @DKforever24 25 днів тому +1

    1:11:32

  • @zipek2250
    @zipek2250 Місяць тому +6

    goryo pack, scam em if you got em

  • @Shuvinile
    @Shuvinile Місяць тому

    Replace the battery in your smoke detector Brian!

  • @Littlemoviestudio
    @Littlemoviestudio Місяць тому +1

    the downside to thoughtsieze and grief is you know how hard your opponent top decked. good thing the cards are cracked

  • @DDPMonster
    @DDPMonster Місяць тому +5

    Ban Nadu.
    Ban Grief.
    Ban The One Ring.

  • @benlittle5543
    @benlittle5543 Місяць тому +1

    Legacy is that lame huh?

  • @muphinnp
    @muphinnp Місяць тому +5

    She reanimate on my grief till I scam