I just listened your president, and he plans to lower taxes for US compagnies producing in the US, therefore it will reduce domestic product prices (supossing the elements composing the good create in US are not imported). ps: I also know some about import/ export.
@@arnaudx2754 depends, if those companies gave away such tax cuts to the consumer. what do you think how many billionaires will pocket this money and dont care. ps the "tariff" game can be played from BOTH ends, funny that. so, if a company is producing for the US and for foreign markets BEFORE the trade wars he DESPERATLY wants (only with the rest of the western world because, as he said in davos, "china is a good partner") and now foreign countries make MY product more expensive you gain a little bit domestic market but losing the export. no problem if the domestic people have ENOUGH money for that. But us citizen are struggling to pay rent and gtoceries, do you see the error of your ways?
@@arnaudx2754 income tax comes off after profit, they don't decrease prices they increase profits. If you look at economic history since the 80's you will find decreases in income tax have never decreased prices.
@@arnaudx2754 But he is only cutting taxes on the wealthiest corporations. Thereby creating huge monopolies and destroying competition. Smaller companies and all mom and pop businesses will be paying tarriffs without tax relief leaving them in an unsustainable market. Trump is effectively killing all but the few and workers will end up with very little choice for jobs and basically unable to quit. Trump has said he will remove minimum wages so the employers can pay less than 7.25. Trump has said he will increase the work week so employees can work more. He has also said he will remove or extend the age at which people can retire and to get rid of SSI so people can’t retire. Americans have voted themselves into slave labor.
At least he had enough humility to reflect and admit he needed more information. That is a good thing, and we shouldn't bully others because they don't know everything.
Canadian here 🇨🇦 Excellent video and I have to applaud the man being interviewed for being open and listening. My hope is that he, and others who think the tariffs aren’t going to hit us all in a bad way, finally realize that it actually stinks.
I really don't think he has changed his mind one little bit. He wasn't even looking at the person giving him the correct information much of the time never mind listening and taking the information in. It's like talking to a turnip.
Comes from experience and confidence because he knows about tarrifs. He can spend days talking about it because that's his livelihood. We stopped listening to experts and we listen to fix news educated TV personalities and their uneducated opinions based on no experience at all.
That is the proper way to correct someone; criticise and correct their arguments, without attacking them with personal insults. Of course, this assumes that the person hasn't done something despicable, because in _that_ case he would certainly deserve to be insulted.
@@williamyoung9401 100 yrs ago we relied on tariffs which means -- we taxed our importers and they passed that on to their customers . and that paid for the limited govt we had at that time. so the equal is a federal sales tax on everything . does he want that???
This guy says he goes to China and he doesn't see buicks. I doubt this guy ever went to China ever. I actually go to china on business and there are American cars there. But the Chinese cars sell more.
Even better call it a sales tax, to the consumer it works the same, and they understand sales tax. Just say it is applied before it hits the store because it is.
VP Harris said it over and over - I think she said it to Trump's face in their debate, he just said "no, it isn't." Others told Trump too; I remember an economist in one of those events Trump went to during his campaign, told him that tariffs are paid by consumers, he answered, "I don't believe it." So... If you are Trumpist and hear Trump saying over and over and publishing on his platform Agenda 47 that all the world will be paying tariffs to the USA, what would you believe? Trump or the fake media, which you don't watch anyway?
That’s exactly what it actually is. The word tariff actually refers to the percentage or other rules that define how much import tax is to be paid. e.g. “Bananas imports are subject to a tariff of 8%”
The internet allowed morons to spew their nonsense and infect others. The internet still has good information, but some people don't want that information because it their biases won't agree with this new information and they don't want to be wrong or feel stupid. It's a bad cycle.
They are literally idiotic to think we can tax another country. They hate globalism, but then they’re all about globalist policies. Completely hypocrites and fools. Imagine being middle-aged and still figuring out how the economy and politics works.
... actually, I think you can. If you sell the trade agreement for a transfer of national funds. Aka, a "pay us 20 cents per banana you want to export to us, and we'll give you a free trade agreement. Otherwise, we'll levy a tariff of 40 cents per banana." Just that I don't think this would be well received as a practice, and countries would just go "well sure, then go and screw over your own country's consumers, we'll just export to elsewhere in the meantime". Not entirely sure this would truly be a 'tax' rather than 'national level extortion'.
@@Alblaka It's not a real tax even doing it in that manner... and ultimately, the local end customer pays. Essentially, ALL of it boils down to debt. Force the consumer to spend more so that their economic success is limited to merely paying the debts and force countries to bring on debt they'll never be capable of repaying so we can control them. We are being chained to the debt created by wealth inequalities of enormous proportions and shackled to wages so there's no escape.
I think one important point about why this worked is the fact that the expert was just a normal guy. He was not some figure of authority, he was simply explaining his job and he was doing so to educate, not to prove the other person wrong. It was so refreshing to see everyone be willing to talk and listen, and even ADMIT that they dont know everything. It is so rare to see these days. Thanks to everyone there, thanks for being civil and thanks for trying to understand.
It's not that refreshing to see the guy who clearly had no idea what he's talking about shouting about it, and then conclude with basically going "well I'm ignorant so i guess we'll never know"
I get that it's not a perfect resolution but it went so much better than 99% of these sort of exchanges you see online. So yes I'd call it refreshing. Maybe he didn't change his mind, but maybe he went home and did some research. I hope so. We aren't going to change everyone's mind immediately, and this was at least going in the right direction.
Too late. In Canada, we learned about tariffs in junior high social studies. If baffles me that adults don't know, and can't be bothered to learn before deciding on them, and then voting for them. Wild.
Then why is Canada going do tarrfs on the US possibly in retaliation to trump isn't that a terrible idea because Canadians pay the tarif on David pacmans channel there's a Canadian leader wanting to impose terrifs for retaliation of Trump's terrifs
So true Adam!!! I'm Canadian as well, and I am shocked how many Americans don't know how they work, and if the tariffs on Canada, they will be paying more
And even though Canada and the US have a "Free Trade Agreement", renegotiated by Trump, Americans still pay a 14% tariff on Canadian softwood imports to build their homes.
It’s also sad that most adults in these united states don’t even know the difference between a pending charge, and authorized charge on a bank statement.
It's by design. Uneducated citizens are more gullible to all sorts of (mis) information. Just look at all the blatant lies the Führer 2.0 pumped out which were proven lies and yet his supporters believe every single word.
ironic considering he pulled a bait and switch to change what the issue was about. The issue was never about "cost" but about what China is trying to do with the cheap goods: make it impossible for domestic companies to compete with Chinese goods. China already controls about 20% of the US market, now imagine if they control vehicles and food as well?
@@nathanielbass771 However, this doesn't punish China and just punishes companies in the US and, in turn, the consumers in the US that buy from the companies. Tarrifs don't attack the countries that they are applied to, they attack importers of the goods coming into the country and the consumers who want to buy those goods. Also, I would like to point out how vehicles are not all made locally, often with outsourced parts from places like China due to being cheap and readily available to buy.
@@nathanielgalvan3819 except, it doesn't. The tax only applies at purchase, meaning that already existing purchases would not be taxed. The company would be choosing to risk the cost increase. While it might cause a momentary profit loss, the market would stabilize in under a year with usually few to no losses unless a company's entire lineup relied on a tariffed imported good. If said company already relies entirely on said good, they are not a domestic company and instead an intermediary middle man that may as well have been employed by the foreign nation. This is not even what is happening since the products China is attempting to introduce have not yet hit the market.
@ Sorry if I am misunderstanding you, but when did I ever say that the tax hit existing purchases? Also, companies will risk the cost increase if it means the consumer will ultimately pay for it. Tarrifs hurt the many industries that may rely on not just imported finished goods, but also the raw materials that cannot be found domestically.
President Trump had tariffs in his first term, with just under 1.4% inflation for the last 7 months straight of his Administration & a 4 year avg of 1.9%, w/stable affordable prices
When prices went up during the pandemic, corporations passed 110% of the cost onto customers. The entire cost + a little extra for themselves. They are going to do the exact same thing with tariffs.
right, the 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico will end up increasing prices more like 30% because you know if you have to change the price you may as well take the opportunity to bump it a little further since you are already taking the pain anyway... And the best-case scenario is that now with the increased price, US companies' alternatives become competitive and can match the new increased import price... but either way that increases the price the consumer pays for it in the end, no way around that.
They didn't just pass the Cost on the consumer, they made enormous profits. They blamed it on logistical problems. guess that excuse wouldn't work if they have to bring their manufacturing back
This guy really went from "CHINA PAYS THE TARRIFFS! THEY DO!" to "well, I can't comment on that, I don't have the information" the moment he realized he was talking to someone who had even a single shred of knowledge on the subject.
@@LaMarcheFutilé101At least he had the grace to admit. Most national conservatives wouldn't budge because the modern GOP believes in loyalty above all else. Principles. Intelligence. Compassion. Everything.
Why in Europe you dont see much of GM vehicles , sedan , pick up and van , that is their whole current range ? They are still in business because Obama . Ford produces cars in Europe , models they dont officially import to US just as Mustang is one US model you can get in Europe .
@@Bosef88 if the whole incident made the guy rethink and reassess what he’d previously been told, then that’s good enough for me. Things like this shouldn’t be a gloating exercise or an opportunity to belittle people - people get caught up in their beliefs and it affects us all - think of that national hero sportsperson who you’ve cheered on for years then find that they’d been cheating for decades - we all get caught out by something because we believe in something/someone. The people I get frustrated with are those like one of the people on here who chose to blindly argue points with me without any actual data/facts - and when faced with the evidence in black and white, then choose to change the subject to Biden’s pardons, missing money etc etc …because they can’t bring themselves to accept what they’re being presented with that contradicts what they believe so they change the subject. The same sort of person will go away and tell their friends that the in/ex person was a ‘plant’ or AI….. As I said elsewhere, if Trump shot someone in the head with a pistol, there are those around him who will argue the victim head butted the bullet. That’s what the world is up against. It’s not wrong to be uneducated - it’s criminal not to consider and question your leader’s actions tho.
Completely agree there is absolutely nothing wrong in being ignorant about something, as long as you are flexible enough to change your position when you have the full facts.
they are building their personality around trump or maga. proofing them wrong is a direct attack on that personality. people, in general, dont like it when the foundation of there core believe and personality gets attacked, even if this thread is imagined. you cant persuate them away from that. people always ask why the germans dont cease fighting even in late april 1945, THIS is the reason. the ONLY way to get those people back is when THIS system gets total shattered. The republicans must guide this country in a hellhole of inflation and recession, best combined with an unpopular war and THAN people will crack and abandone this cult.
A guy gets smarter by regularly trying to learn, an argument with an expert isn't gonna get him anywhere but it might get him to try and learn more about how tariffs actually work.
Hey man. The guy admit being uneducated and bit the bullet like a true gentleman. Everybody learns something everyday. And the importer and exporter expert is very calm and composed with his argument as well. Hats off to both.
This man in the green jacket is a breath of fresh air. He doesn’t come across as a politically absorbed obnoxious person and educates in a calm, respectful, intelligent, and articulate manner.
Well after you tell with Trumpers for years it's nigh impossible to try and educate them in a calm, respectful, intelligent way. Especially online. It just takes so much time and energy and they just shut down and post a laugh emoji. They're so damn misinformed by the right it is nigh IMPOSSIBLE to talk to them logically because their entire worldview is based on lies. It's so frustrating to see these people vote for the side fucking them. Like this guy in green almost lost his patience just from this one guy because he REFUSED to listen and had so much misinformation in his head from the right that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. You have to spend so much time and energy to plow through all the nonsense before you can even HOPE to get them to listen to facts. It's deliberate from the right.
Anyone who talks to you sweetly be very sure they have an agenda. His business is going belly up with tariffs. US govt was helping his business by *printing US dollars* and screwing the local manufacturing. Printing of deficit causes inflation. Honestly like am asking as a friend weren't you scolded at home for not studying all your subjects. Like in my home if we said this stuff my parents would have hit us, because it was academically wrong. PS as a family we were exporting goods to US for 15 years.
Agreed and he managed to stop that guy from just moving the goalposts to his next talking point. However I think he needed to make it clearer that whilst the end consumer pays, the US government is the sole recipient. The exporting nation never bares the cost (it may bare a reduced market share but it never pays the tariff directly). The other thing is Trump talks about blanket tariffs against nations. He's not targeting specific goods, whereby it might actually make US manufacturers more competitive as in most cases the US won't even have manufacturers that are producing the goods he's slapped a tariff on. It's just a money grab, plain and simple.
@@gandharvagrover8396 yes he has a vested interest, but it's fair to correct Trump's lies that China, Mexico, Canada, Denmark, etc etc will be the ones paying, or that the US consumer will be the one hit hard. As I pointed out in my comment, most of the goods Trump will tariff don't have a local manufacturer that can supply. The US printing money is a different argument and has nothing to directly do with tariffs, they found after several QE tranches that inflation wasn't affected, so your purchasing power remained the same. Most citizens would be happy about that if they actually understood it, aka free money that the taxpayer isn't personally responsible for.
@@ilaser4064where does the USD comes from for paying all the imports ? Do you export anything? You need to print it... and that my friend is USD devaluation or inflation. Have you seen the strength is USD index since Trump won it is because market expects less printing of USD now. Am not being rude here. Just asking...
@@gandharvagrover8396what causes either inflation or deflation…the circulation of said money, if it’s not being spent then it’s not circulating at the rate that the Fed wants to see. Remember the federal reserve is 12 seats that communicate the ups and downs of this economy, they’re mostly occupied with private bankers…but look to where the wealth is being trapped….corporate real estate and lately, land for multiple mile wide data centers using subsidized utilities…by the tax payer…almost like the government works for corporations, not normal folks.
I know exactly what I am talking about and am 100% right. People here claiming you can not impose tariffs on another country are just mental - they ALREADY EXIST.
he knew something, when he talked levelling playing field in respect to china, there is a situation that china subsidies certain industrie, thus effectively applying negative tariffs on their products that are exported (solar panels is a good example). imposing tariffs on panels creates a level playing field by negating the effect of the china's subsidies. also, about buyer always pays tariffs, true to some extend, since there is such a concept as elasticity of demand. the more expensive product is, the less people buys it. in an extreme scenario tariffs might be so big that nobody will buy such product, effectively making situation that nobody pays for tariffs, since nothing is being sold.
I definitely appreciate the conversation remained civil and no one talked over each other. Plenty of MAGA do not have the emotional intelligence for that. This guy definitely does.
"Ignorant" means to ignore the truth, facts, or reality. It looked like he didn't do that. He was told what the truth is by someone he trusts to know, and he accepted that information to be the truth. He might have been an idiot for voting for Trump, though.
@@piliana12the facist? Who's the one who had to vote for a handpicked candidate? Who's the one who supported forcing people to take an untested vaccine?
Honestly, while I have so much respect for the folks that conducted the interview (especially the import/exporter), I also do appreciate that the person they were interviewing was willing to stand there and have the debate, whether he was wrong, right, invested, he still listened and didn’t just walk off. Progress 🙏🏼
Yeah, he walked away thinking "this exporter have no idea, he is right, but I dont mind, maga has the truth of god in the hands, god bless Trump even if he is wrong, because I love his haircut, he is rich and has a Elon"
This guy was fantastic. Not only did he explain tariffs very well, but he handled the man's attempt to change the subject very well. He both admitted what he doesn't know, and stopped the man from re-framing the issue at the same time.
I agree and disagree. While he kept the MAGA supporter on point, I think the MAGA supporter may have been going somewhere worth discussing. It's not just about "winning" the question, but about having an intelligent conversation. My follow up is: if you don't want tariffs because it doesn't make the exported product cheaper than one made locally by people who are treated more fairly, does that mean you are ok with slave labor for your cheaper product as long as it's somewhere else?
@matthewhart7538 No, it's not worth discussing with that particular guy. You think someone that doesn't understand the basics of tariffs is going to understand more complicated trade and economic policy? I don't even disagree with your general point... I think that strategies to reduce dependence on imports and stimulate the economy through internal development work fantastically. South Korea is a good example of this. But slapping tariffs on everything like Trump is doing is a childish and irresponsible. I doubt he is actually trying to solve the problems you brought up... but if he was, this isn't the way to go about it. Trade agreements are especially great for anything that can't be produced locally. So blanket tariffs sometimes increase prices on certain goods in ways that do nothing to stimulate the local economy. Additionally, Trump wants to put tariffs on my country, Canada, as well. That definitely can't be motivated by the problems you mentioned, as Canada has similar employment standards to the US. Also, it would be better to actually develop internal industries prior to creating tariffs. Raising the prices of imports does nothing for local business if the industry isn't developed enough to compete in the first place. Also, tariffs are generally way smaller than the amounts Trump is throwing around. There are good reasons for that. He is acting with a serious lack of consideration for the economic affects of his policies.
If the MAGA guy didn’t even know how a tariff worked or who pays even though the guy he voted for has made it one of his key selling points then there is probably not much point in going into an extended conversation with him on potential effects of it down the road. The one thing he could have mentioned is that the US tried this before in the 1930s to encourage domestic manufacturing and it was a bit of a disaster.
Here we are arguing about tarrifs... Whos selling US Bonds? Who is stepping in to buy US debt? Inflation is not going down. New world order up for grabs... ect. BRICS looking to launch.. Lets all focus on that?
depends brother, maga people pretend to be experts then people sit and listen to their dogshit and believe it. Listening is good but also so is critical thinking.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels
I do want to point out this is one of the most calm maga supporters I’ve ever seen and he actually listened so let’s give him some props for that because even though he may not know what he was talking about he actually listened and was respectful and willing to be educated on something. If every maga supporter was like this guy we would actually make some progress as a country so props to him🎉
I saw one of them in a Klepper interview the other day that also listened and admitted he had not done enough research. The optimist in me wants to believe that they're starting to doubt what they've been told but I've just seen too much stupidity and doubling down to really be able to hope anymore.
Yes honestly he did not shout or yell, he listened... he did not quite grasp it maybe, but he atleast listened. If only people would have done this before the damn election!
You can't counter the information when you started out with no information. Now that you have the information, it's incumbent on you to update your position.
@@Collins311 you do know biden kept almost all trumps tariffs and actually increased some? China pays their manufacturing workers less than 5 dollars an hour and can make a car for less than 10k without the tariffs we have zero manufacturing and our auto industry would be dead , so know that you have information are you changing your position? It’s way more complicated than this video showed.
accepting what someone says at face value is folly. The person in the video is using a bait and switch tactic where he makes the argument what it was never about in the first place, hence why so many people are confused. the "cost" was never the issue but that it is impossible for US producers to compete with it. China would then control roughly 20% of the US market and vehicles and food... now try imagining that when China says that $2 per day with no shelter and one "meal" per day is not living in poverty...
to a certain degree you gotta feel for these people, main reason they are voting Trump is just lack of education which you can't really blame them for, they live in a system that discourages and hinders that, that's part of the problem underfunded public schools, little paid vacation and spare time, low wages, privatized media, etc.
@@benzo___ Bullshit, it's a lack of integrity and intelligence. They have just the same opportunities to pull their heads out of their ass as the rest of us, they just choose not to, willful ignorance.
1:05 "I travel to China often (...) You don't see like a Buick in China" Actually, China is quite a large market for Buick. They sell models there that aren't even available in the US. Also, since 2010 they've sold over half a million cars every year in the Chinese market, with some years well above a million, like 2016 when they sold over 1.2 million.
This was the first thing that came to my mind when he said Buick. Of all the American brands he could've referred to, he uses one of the most popular ones in China!
I'm a preschool teacher and this is the exact approach I use when I engage with small children in the classroom. Patience is key, breaking things down so that even a small child can understand and not raising your voice as if you're yelling at the child they likely not going to listen to their educator. This teaching technique is known as inserting calm.
That professional importer/exporter should also tell that loudmouth buffoon there is no Chinese cars in the US, but there are literally millions upon millions of American cars in China the last 35 years or so! There are less of them now thanks to the fact that China has started to make its own cars the last several years, but there are still millions of American cars in China despite the fact that the US has banned Chinese cars from coming into the US! It is not China that isn’t playing fair, it is the US that isn’t playing fair! The US is the one that is afraid of playing fair with China for fear that a fair competition with China would result in Chinese companies putting American companies out of business because their products are that much better than what the American companies are producing and the Chinese companies are selling their products at that much of a lower price than the American companies! Even the US auto company CEO’s are saying so to the US government and that’s why the US government bans Chinese cars from coming into the US! The US government is not only putting 100% tariffs on Chinese cars before a single one of them has arrived into the US, it actually bans all Chinese cars from coming into the US even if the American importers are willing to pay for that 100% tariff on Chinese cars they are not allowed to bring Chinese cars into the US and this fact is never revealed to the American people!
Swathes of voters wanted Brexit because England is desperate to close their borders to invaders and protect their children, not everything is about money.
And it has turned out a disaster for us Brits. We will regret it even more now with Trump in power as we are floundering on our own. We would be in a lot stronger position if we had stayed in the EU.
He may have listened but he still doesn't get it. I doubt he even went to China becasue I go there on business all the time and there are American cars there. In fact they manufacture some American cars there and also import some.. But most cars are Chinese. These people like to talk about things they have no idea about.
He barely listened at all, he was trying to derail the conversation in several directions and had to be reigned back on topic, and when it was explained fully and concisely to him he still tried to fall back “I don’t have the information on me” as if he would even be convinced then. Simply put, they don’t want it to be that way, so they will do anything and think anything to make it so that they can ✨believe🌈✨
@@earlr2992 Or he did go, for a day or two, and happened not to see any American cars in the city he was in. And so he decided that must be how the entire country is, all the time.
That was amazing, especially as the person finally recognized that maybe he did not understand the tariff process. He might not of been fully convinced. What an excellent example from the importer on how to inform.
If he were to accept what the importer told him, that would mean that his lord and savior orange jesus would be wrong. And that's unacceptable in the cult of tRump.
@@alastairgreen2077 doesn't matter. By now both forms are understood and widely used, and thus correct, even if you or anyone else doesn't like it. That's just how language works.
@@waltermasterson Trump's proposed tariffs are not intended to be permanent fixtures of U.S. trade policy but rather tools for negotiation. The idea is to use tariffs as leverage to compel trading partners to make concessions that benefit U.S. industries and address unfair trade practices. This strategy puts pressure on other nations to reduce barriers to U.S. exports, eliminate subsidies that disadvantage American companies, or agree to more equitable terms in trade agreements. By implementing or threatening tariffs, the goal is to create a sense of urgency for other countries to come to the negotiating table. Once the desired agreements are reached, the tariffs can be reduced or removed, making them a temporary measure designed to shift the balance of trade in favor of the United States. This approach aims to secure long-term economic advantages without committing to long-term protectionist policies.
@@waltermasterson You uploaded a video that is being used to attack people. Look at your comment section. That's the effect your video y has on people. You absolutely have the power to stop this but you allow it because you hate Trump voters.
He was being confused with facts that a 10 year old can grasp.There are not enough words to describe the ignorance and stupidity of the MAGA American Public
To finally back down and admit he doesn’t have even knowledge on the matter was so beautiful. We ALL need to tap into our own humility. Good on the import/export fellow for schooling him with such patience. America, if we could have more of this, please.
I was impressed actually that he didn't throw up his hands call them all stupid and run away plugging his ears. Maybe there is some small hope for MAGA people.
It’s alarming when basic economics aren’t understood by people who vote SOLELY for economic purposes.
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They also seem to fail at critical thinking skills if they believe a slimy slumlord, womanizer, failed reality star, failed casino owner, failed serial fraudster, and pathological liar is honestly going to help them at all.
But Trump himself sat down with an economist and told the economist that he was very bad at his job and very bad at math but that he, Trump, understood economics better and would set this economist straight. It is surreal.
@ Tariffs aren’t really something that require an “economics” class to learn about and they were covered in Canadian history classes that I used to teach when I taught high school history. A tariff is easy enough to understand if you look at them this way (and I am NO economics teacher; I hardly passed my intro to economics class in university, so I’ve learned to put them in a way that my grade 10 students could understand easily because I also need easy explanations!): they are taxes placed on imported goods that the consumer pays; they raise the price of any imported good. Tariffs are a double-edged sword for the country imposing them (in this case, the US) because they can hurt the consumer if they choose to buy these taxed goods (bad) and can serve to increase interest in locally produced goods that are not taxed (good…apart from the fact that domestically produced goods often cost more anyway because North Americans won’t work for crap pay and in crap conditions like people will in other countries). However, no country produces all of the goods they require (despite what Donnie says). The US depends on a ton of Canadian imports (just like we do American imports). A tariff war will hurt both of our economies because we do trillions in dollars in trade each year between our two countries. A tariff is a tax consumers pay on goods that are imported from another country and that is all there is to it.
I think that everyone in this conversation deserves respect for the way they discussed this, and to the MAGA guy for at least acknowledging the one point that he clearly had wrong. I would like to see all discourse be like this.
The Biden administration kept trumps tariffs in place, inflation was just 1.4% at the end of trumps first term, and I would say MAGA is smarter than you.
It took a random stranger disproving everything he said for the MAGA guy to even halfway admit he was wrong. That’s not a victory, he’s still going to be the same close minded fool he was before
Don't agree fully. Green coat here didn't listen to be educated and/or get informed but to interrupt with his non factual arguments in an attempt 'to win the argument'. His 'I'm not informed enough' was a cop out -> I don't have any arguments left to argue and I will not acknowledge your expertise so I'm done.
"My understanding." That's the problem. He doesn't, and he doesn't want to. This is an EXCELLENT presentation and discussion of how this things work in practical society.
While we the people do bare the cost of the tariffs, trumps threats to raise them so high still is a bad thing for the other countries. As if the tariffs they are high, then the price goes up. You guys in America won't buy them. Which then hurts the other countries that want to sell products to America.
@@yoyoyo3531to a point that is true. But on things like agriculture they take their business elsewhere. His first term hit farmers the worst where close 50% of money in farming was subsidized by the government. China turned around and went to South America. They could grow the crops and trade with them for cheaper forever hurting the trade with china leaving farmers hurt. So yes it works for some products, but not all.
its a bad thing just for america, tariffs cause inflation, greedy companies that do manufacture in the US will also raise the prices because they can use that inflation as an excuse
@@yoyoyo3531 tariffs aren’t about hurting any country. They’re about protecting a fledgling domestic economy from cheaper competition so it can grow. It’s about far more than tariffs. Tariffs can be a disaster for the working class of a nation if used inappropriately, and trump is doing just that.
from my experience they do everything they can to stay away from any facts. like actively. that's the "you can't trust the main stream" nonsense which is actually just orwell's 1984- "don't believe your eyes and ears. it is the most important directive"
I think the problem is that a lot of English speaking people don't understand that tariff is a tax due to the language reason. In Chinese, tariff is literally translated as custom tax, so everyone knows it is a tax.
Yeah that's the idea of tarrifs. Make the imported product so expensive for all parties involved until the company decides to manufacture inside the country or the alternative product already in the country starts gaining more customers. It's like carbon tax make production techniques that cause too much environmental harm cost more than techniques that cause less harm. The only thing is whether the expected result actually happens as people are an unpredictable system. They may just decide to continue paying the higher prices or they may just stop using that product entirely.
@@billshi6005No, absolutely not. In German, Taxes are Steuern and Tariffs are Zölle, but everyone and their Mother understands that you as a Customer pay the Zoll. It's a Matter of over half of that Country being a Bunch of uneducated Lilypad Waterers.
People who need this information, like the MAGA guy, don't want to learn. Everything this man told him about importing he could have learned on his own
It’s amazing how much of a difference it makes when you can keep someone on topic, be calm, and have a measured tone! Edit: added "of" to of a difference
The problem here is, was he really “converted”? Or is he going to leave this conversation just to listen to a right winger on UA-cam with a voice and tone that is certainly NOT measured telling him not to believe is lying eyes and ears?
@@kennethguthrie180he didn’t seem to want to be educated but I’ll give him credit for listening and then admitting he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
...and after he left, he educated himself by looking up articles on Breitbart. He's not gonna let some fancy-ass Satan loving euro communist trick him with "facts."
except he was only willing to admit he didn't know once he got push back from someone who did, he was perfectly happy by his own admission to lie before that
The right person came in at the exact right time to drop some knowledge on someone who was certain they knew what they were talking about. Great video!
Except he didn't really "drop some knowledge" and this isn't a "great video" either. He selectively left out the most important part about tariffs to make tariffs seem bad/ilogical. And made this video solely about "who pays the tariffs" to make random people on the street seem unintelligent, the comment section bought it of course 🤣🤣 ...Yes the american consumer would be the ones "paying the tariff" down stream, but what actually happens in practice with tarrifs is entirely different. For example, if Trump were to put 100% tariff on chinese cars, people wouldn't just continue buying chinese cars for double the price, they would choose a non-chinese car or better yet an american made car. This would negatively impact the chinese car market and positively impact the american car market, giving leverage power to the US in trade negotiations with china, if china tried to respond with tariffs of their own the US would just respond back. This is what tariffs are about, trade pressure, not "who pays the tariffs".
@@Synthwalk lololololololol Watch the clip again man, the whole conversation is literally started with "who pays the tariffs?" The guy is wrong and everyone is trying to explain that to him. After some time he moves the goal post because he realizes he cant argue about that any more, but he never aknowldges he was wrong. Cause he is a little baby coward small man. In addition, regardless of trade pressure it is an undeniable fact that tariffs will cause prices to rase, which is something people on Trump's side are trying to deny and deflect over. Prices going up is bad for consumers and what most people are complaining about. dont be a cringe bot
@@Synthwalkcan you name a single brand that is made in China and then sold in America? Just so you know, you are not completely wrong but you are misunderstanding the situation.
@@dcgamer1027 I never said the guy in the video was right, i said both the "expert" in the video and this channel itself are tricking people who don't know about tariffs into believing they are bad by focusing on the "who is paying the tariff" which is not the part that actually matters. There's no "regardless of trade pressure" the "trade pressure" itself is what matters, you can try to down play it all you want but that's the way America was operating when it was at its richest point in history, price hikes generated by tariffs are offset by taxcuts and arising competing markets. Nice try though, "cringe bot".
I dunno, Maga kept trying to talk over everyone to prove his *non* - point. It's why I don't bother arguing, they don't really listen. Importer guy was just patient enough and didn't let himself get talked over when buddy started yapping.
The whole comment section is still trying to shit on a guy who was willing to talk, listen and adjust his stance.....if that's a bad person people are willing to vilianize, orange umpa loompa is going to stay in office for a long time lol
The idea of a tariff is to dissuade American countries from using international suppliers. The idea is it makes them more expensive than goods manufactured nationally.
his explanation and the other guys ignorance does not matter all that much in these matters. fact is the west and its liberal elite at some point decided china should be subsidized by developed world. which is one of the worst decisions since WW2.. we have effectively set in motion our own destruction. on tech, on jobs, on profit and the environment. and on top of this we have paid for a gigantic amount of pirated versions of our own products
Two steps brainwash here: 1. Deliberately misinforming the decisive role regarding how the market is being adjusted with a plain wrong point that the government or policy can control the market, using misleading wording of "charging another country tariff" to deliver such wrong point, and hoping the patriotic emotion stirred-up will make the misleading wording stick to the audience minds. 2. Let the audience act on the patriotic emotion and verify the sound logical relationship of the above misleading wording and misinformation. Assure and praise the audience to brainwash themselves that what they factually perceived as wrong is actually true, as a result, they will fully believe what they're factually wrongly told. Brainwash completed and success! The most difficult part is, step 2, for the brainwashed to realize and admit their own judgments are wrong, so much so that they will admit that their understanding of the issue is wrong, but still find a way to convince themselves that whatever being said in the step 1 is correct. That's why scammers always target who has been scammed once already.
You guys did awesome Adam! Loved the co-sign from you later on in the convo! Created a bigger picture for the other guy after ur dad's crisp-and-factual info drop
I think the labour law bit is a bit confusing to a non-US citizen. If there's labour law to protect US workers, then why do we hear about the nasty conditions that Amazon subject its workers. You know the pee bottle, toilet break monitoring, heat exhaustion in the warehouse. Why isn't Amazon sued into oblivion?
Love that everybody was polite to each other , listen to each other and most important thing tariff supporter man is convinced.Please make this speech with whole American People
The sad reality of this whole mess is that certain individuals still aren't prepared to stop and listen to people who know what they are talking about. For them, experts and the facts are dirty words But, hats off to the man with the knowledge of how tarrifs work actually work in the real world and to the person who, hopefully, was re-educated. Great vid
Our education system has failed us. Critical and ethical thinking is a college course that should be taught in k-12. It teaches us to use credible and verifiable facts/evidence, and not feelings/hearsay, as the basis of our worldviews. When we use feelings/hearsay we create distorted worldviews. When those distorted worldviews come into question with contradictory facts/evidence there is stress in the psyche known as cognitive dissonance. There are only two reactions to the stress, acceptance or denial of the facts that caused it. A critical thinker can take new facts/evidence and evolve their worldview, whereas someone who lacks said skill will deny the facts and often times become hostile, in order to uphold core beliefs, no matter how flawed. Open-minded with a healthy sense of skepticism. The first thing a critical thinker does when confronted with new information, is question the credibility of source. Then verify.
@reeves5000 Excaptional summation of how in this social media age the art of critical thinking seems to be lost on those seeking simple answers to complex questions. You are also correct in suggesting that certain people, when presented with unquestionable facts, will go into denial and side with misinformation and conspiracy As philosopher Dietrich Bonhoeffer, said: "Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice."
sad to say, that guy went home and said, "Some guy tried to say that we pay tariffs...what a moron - donald said it's going to bring in the bigliest money and I believe him."
A lot of people are clowning on the guy but I wish all maga people were like that. He actually listened and admitted he didn't know enough about it in the end.
@claudiodidomenico i get your point ,but that guy was busy arguing with folk that had knowledge as he was busy arguing his point instead of taking his point at face value the way they swollow the lies told to him by his choice of people.
Wal-mart buys a hat made in China for $10 and sells it to an American customer for $13. With a 25% that hat will now cost $12.50. Do you still think they'll sell it for $13? Of course not. That hat now sells for $15. So thanks to the tariff, that hat now costs an extra $2 - paid by the American customer. Now take that example and multiply it by hundreds of billions throughout all industries. Get ready for prices to skyrocket. A tariff is a tax and it's a tax that 's paid by the consumer. Not the country making the product.
The reality though is closer to that they buy the hat for $1 and sell it for $13. A 100% tariff would make it $2. However, if the U.S. wants to build up its local clothing manufacturing, it might cost $4/hat to buy from an American factory. So a 100% tariff on Chinese hats transitions the market from $1 vs. $4 to $2 vs. $3 as the tariff funds should be directed to domestic producers. This is an over-simplified example, but the goal is that by subsidizing local manufacturing, those manufacturers should receive more orders. More orders (growth)= investment. Investment = new machinery and growth = better deals for raw materials, lowering costs. Tariffs are a tool to try to level the playing field, but local consumers will lose access to cheaper imports. Tariffs can also impose a burden on foreign manufacturers/governments as they still want to grow into the US market, so when they plan to sell 1M units a month based on a price point of what American consumers can pay, they *may* choose to absorb some of the additional tariff costs by lowering the price to support sales volume.
@@stevepy6758 the thing is in some cases, America no longer has the infrastructure to, for example, make that hat. They first have to get that business going, employ staff, buy equipment, build the factory whatever. It all takes time, and the American people will not want to work for $7.25 per hour. That was discovered during the pandemic, when drugs were having to come frome India, ventilators from Europe and masks and other gear from China. America is not self sufficient, and employees will not work for a pittance, when the CEO is paid massive salaries and bonuses. I agree that America needs to boost industry and employment, but cold turkey is not going to make it happen.
I tell you, it makes me very grateful that the parent company of the job I work for is based in Europe. Things could be better, yes, but then things could be like American businesses, and that would be appallingly worse. I got a real good look at it, up close and personal, during the pandemic.
LOL @ YOU!!! You stupid Europeans have health care and only work 3/4 of a year with all your "pro-People" holiday laws!! You suckers don't work yourselves to death without care like "TRUE PATRIOTS"!!! 🙄😲🙄Right? Guys..? Hello? Americans have the best of everything, right?!?!? HELLO? Why is nobody answering me?! USA! USA! USA HELLO???? 🙄🙄🙄
@@lovelyskull3483 it was respectful but there’s way more to it than that, biden kept almost all of trumps tariffs and actually increased some. China pays there manufacturing workers less than 5 dollars an hour so they can make a car for less than 10K without the tariffs we have no manufacturing jobs and zero auto industry. And yes being respectful
@@computerlearingchannel4257 Not necessarily. If you have poor soil or wrong climate or lack of workers it may not be. Maybe they have better technology.
@@tgkoski306 in other words imported will be needed for unobtainable goods. Why do we need to import avocados when we can just farm them ourselves why do we need to import crude oil when we can just produce it ourselves
SIdney Rittenberg 1921-2019 The first American citizen to be admltted into the Communist Party of China. An influential advisor to Mao Zedong who had a pivotal role at the Broadcast Authority. That position earned him a higher salary than Chairman Mao.
@@GoldenAstroCat shame we don’t have one running the country 😂 how a business man is so incredibly inept is astounding! Oh that’s right… professor said he cheated in school and was the dumbest student he had. Now, that explains it! Good job America 💩
Many still think The South won the Civil War. Oh, and that t-rump won in 2020. Oh, and that t-rump will save us and really cares about us. Oh, and that he's super smart too.
Also the importer being willing to say when something was outside of his area of expertise (ie. saying that he doesn't know whether it's good policy to tariff a particular product). It takes maturity and self-awareness to admit that, and being aware that you don't know something is the first step in learning more about it and seeking out more informed opinions.
@@christopherobrien3441 I can't agree this particular MAGA guy was an idiot. He was uninformed and brainwashed, and the speed at which he realized that when confronted by facts is impressive. It's true that it's not hard to understand this from a non brainwashed perspective.
@@thomaslawson7689 the thing is a lot of us are, because the centrists are now moderate fascists and the democrats have given up the point on queer and women's rights, immigration and participation in various g3n0c1d3s. But it was always like this, the US was founded by plutocrats and is still run by them today.
Trump's proposed tariffs are not intended to be permanent fixtures of U.S. trade policy but rather tools for negotiation. The idea is to use tariffs as leverage to compel trading partners to make concessions that benefit U.S. industries and address unfair trade practices. This strategy puts pressure on other nations to reduce barriers to U.S. exports, eliminate subsidies that disadvantage American companies, or agree to more equitable terms in trade agreements. By implementing or threatening tariffs, the goal is to create a sense of urgency for other countries to come to the negotiating table. Once the desired agreements are reached, the tariffs can be reduced or removed, making them a temporary measure designed to shift the balance of trade in favor of the United States. This approach aims to secure long-term economic advantages without committing to long-term protectionist policies.
Yet he was so convinced he was right with what little information he possessed. 🤦🤦♂🤦♀ That, my dear friend, is called the *_Dunning-Kruger Effect:_*_ ‘Those who know the_ *least* _think they know the_ *most.’* - _“What’s curious is that, in many cases, incompetence does not leave people disoriented, perplexed, or cautious. Instead, the incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge.”_ -Dr. David Dunning - _“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed (21 Jan 1980)
Thank you for debating these issues with people.. that is the only way to get informed.. we can't rely on billionaires who own all of the news outlets.
I guarantee this guy didn’t walk away from the conversation with more information. Trump supporters want to validate their existing position, they don’t actually care about the truth.
@@ebWhytt "China will be paying the tariffs the same way Mexico has paid for the wall. Stop expecting that yelling "AMERICA FIRST" will somehow persuade foreign governments to give us money." should be a straight forward and intuitive argument.
@@MrWeiskog Exactly! Anybody who has the ability to pass those tariffs along to somebody else is going to do it! They'd be a fool not to. The only people who can't pass the tariff along to somebody else are the end consumers
Blue hat guy! What an incredible human being. Calm, educated, polite. Everything maga is not. I'm so glad the other guy listened, I'm not sure he understood or took it all on board but hopefully some of that went in.
except the man pulled a bait and switch, using the "cost" of the goods as the negative when increasing the cost is the entire point of the tariff in order to dissuade foreign businesses from controlling domestic products (which China is attempting to do with vehicles and food )
Honestly I learned so much about tariffs from this video. And how much they do benefit the United States if we enforcer them on other countries. Thank you!
He probably still walked away, thinking he's not paying tariffs. This was a brilliant video. It should be played in every consumer's areas, where we buy any and all products !! Thank you for this.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Yep, exactly! Magats after the 2020 election were shown down to the micro level how votes are kept safe and for over an hour they were educated....they kinda mumbled they were wrong but when the interviewer caught up with them ten minutes later they were already back to to 'stolen election' BS.
Facts. He thinks he's going to get Canada good with 25% tarrif on that $100M of Florida Orange Juice Camadians buy. But the Canadian Consumer says we're not buying the high priced tariffed Florida Orange Juice & now Florida no longer supplies the Canada market who we all know doesn't grow Oranges. Canada will do without or buy elsewhere. Stupid for USA not to value that Canadian Orange Juice Market. But hey, we sell & produce 90% of the world's Potash, which the USA buys & needs. But now the USA is going to pay 25% more. They can choose not to & have no crops. But I can survive just fine without Orange Juice. Checkmate. The worst part is MAGA doesn't want to understand, they want to hear lies.
@@luisguillermoviruesdelgadi182 The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.
You know what I really applaud is that man for graciously accepting the explanation at the end. He’s been fed garbage information on a complex topic, but he listened and in the end he was open. Great to see a constructive discussion.
Yep. If we were all slightly less dismissive of other people and listened as well as that MAGA guy, we wouldn't have that kind of crowd being exploited by Trump. I see the kind of behaviour on both sides, but even if one is probably better for the country than the other, we shouldn't be content to be on the right side through happenstance. We should seek out people we disagree with and try to understand them, with the full knowledge we might have it all wrong.
@@offthehookwithb-love4060 to be fair depending on your level of economic expertise you might not be able to use that information to see the statistical reality behind it. And if you have to read about that then it's a non point since you can technically read up on almost anything.
Exactly, everyone remained calm and Trump voter admitted to his mistake. I don't know why everyone is calling him braindead, uneducated or brainwashed. If he was, he wouldn't let go of his beliefs.
@@michalrola7017 he's far from being a fool, it takes intelligence to recognize when you might be wrong and not educated enough on the subject. Refreshing video :)
@@michalrola7017 Well, he was uneducated…uneducated in how tariffs work and how they’ll actually impact costs of goods and the economy. And he was a classic example of so many MAGA supporters just believing what they’re told from their so called savior, rather than actually educating themselves from multiple sources and perspectives.
@@russellschroeder3It’s hilarious watching people who have believed everything they are told hook line and sinker for years call out others for “believing everything they are told.” Lol
The man walked away with a lesson and yet didn't digest any of its information. My hat's off to the man who took the time out of his day to explain, but it was unfortunately ineffective. It was equivalent to teaching a brick wall.
Massive kudos to the guy for actually listening and realising that he wasn’t in possession of the information he needed to make an informed decision. If only we could all have more conversations like this where we listen to other points of view maybe we would be in this mess.
He never said he needed more information to make an informed decision. He only said he doesn't know that information. He did so to avoid admitting he was wrong. That is classic narcissism. It's not the humility people are making it out to be. He did that to protect his ego.
@ I don’t think that makes much of a difference in what he’s saying when he says he doesn’t have the knowledge to make an informed decision. He at least admits that, so I’d say he doesn’t have an ego and he took the time to understand someone else’s viewpoint.
@@anoobius3330 but he still didn't believe them, he especially said "I don't know what you're talking about so I won't argue with you" but that doesn't mean he changed his opinion to the factually accurate one
Wow that cameo was epic. This guy's approach is so on point, rather than quizzing and undermining people (which is so easy to do when they say dumb stuff) he did it in a way that didn't make the other guy feel too small.
shoutout to my 9th grade history teacher / 12th grade sociology teacher for informing my class about tariffs bc somehow its not a basic thing we learn in every high school curriculum 😭😭😭
Kudos to the man on the street for digesting the information and trying to understand. That is what honest conversation looks like. That is what this country needs. Not "I don't understand your side of the argument, therefore I'm still right." Or "trump said it's a good thing, therefore it is." That goes for both sides of the aisle, in all scenarios.
I learned this in middle school over 30 years ago, and we have this thing called the internet; the info has always been there. Sometimes, the truth doesn't matter to some people if it doesn't entertain their ego. I'm impressed with patience, though.
The professional importer/exporter should get medal for his patience and such clear explanation
I just listened your president, and he plans to lower taxes for US compagnies producing in the US, therefore it will reduce domestic product prices (supossing the elements composing the good create in US are not imported). ps: I also know some about import/ export.
@@arnaudx2754 depends, if those companies gave away such tax cuts to the consumer.
what do you think how many billionaires will pocket this money and dont care.
ps the "tariff" game can be played from BOTH ends, funny that.
so, if a company is producing for the US and for foreign markets BEFORE the trade wars he DESPERATLY wants (only with the rest of the western world because, as he said in davos, "china is a good partner") and now foreign countries make MY product more expensive you gain a little bit domestic market but losing the export.
no problem if the domestic people have ENOUGH money for that.
But us citizen are struggling to pay rent and gtoceries, do you see the error of your ways?
@@arnaudx2754 income tax comes off after profit, they don't decrease prices they increase profits. If you look at economic history since the 80's you will find decreases in income tax have never decreased prices.
@@arnaudx2754
But he is only cutting taxes on the wealthiest corporations. Thereby creating huge monopolies and destroying competition. Smaller companies and all mom and pop businesses will be paying tarriffs without tax relief leaving them in an unsustainable market. Trump is effectively killing all but the few and workers will end up with very little choice for jobs and basically unable to quit. Trump has said he will remove minimum wages so the employers can pay less than 7.25. Trump has said he will increase the work week so employees can work more. He has also said he will remove or extend the age at which people can retire and to get rid of SSI so people can’t retire.
Americans have voted themselves into slave labor.
@@arnaudx2754Unfortunately the tax saved
will go to the shareholders not the consumer. The recent inflation was caused by excessive coperate profits.
"I'm not educated enough on this" is a wild last thing to admit in a conversation where he was previously trying to shout his beliefs
probably the most intelligent thing he’s said in weeks
He's about to get a whole series of even tougher lessons over the next decade or two.
At least he had enough humility to reflect and admit he needed more information. That is a good thing, and we shouldn't bully others because they don't know everything.
Well, better late than never loll
I don't think it'll go far, but hey it's a start lolll
@@WiiAsian no, but we shouldn't handle them with kid gloves either. Stern , but fair.
"I love the uneducated!" - Trump.
If you could teach maga...
@@ThatOpalGuy you can’t teach them anything
They buy his Trump bibles that are made in China and cowboy Trump NFTs for 100 bucks a pop
It's almost as if we shouldn't allow everyone the privilege to vote
Its you guys, not us.
We should had expensive foods, goodies and etc in 2016-2020.
Same tariffs. Whats different?
Yeah you guys uneducated
Canadian here 🇨🇦 Excellent video and I have to applaud the man being interviewed for being open and listening. My hope is that he, and others who think the tariffs aren’t going to hit us all in a bad way, finally realize that it actually stinks.
Yes, but certainly took awhile. Vive le Canada!
I really don't think he has changed his mind one little bit. He wasn't even looking at the person giving him the correct information much of the time never mind listening and taking the information in. It's like talking to a turnip.
I dont think thats what happened, he realized he was himself against 3 and he wasnt gonna win that conversation
That man has so much patience
Both men did. You need that for real communication. Hats off to both.
Comes from experience and confidence because he knows about tarrifs. He can spend days talking about it because that's his livelihood. We stopped listening to experts and we listen to fix news educated TV personalities and their uneducated opinions based on no experience at all.
That is the proper way to correct someone;
criticise and correct their arguments, without attacking them with personal insults.
Of course, this assumes that the person hasn't done something despicable, because in _that_ case he would certainly deserve to be insulted.
When you’re dealing with toddlers you need patience
lol the MOST
The importer/exporter guy was respectful in his effort to explain the tariff. He seemed a very kind man.
Possibly because he's not an American by birth.
We need to stop being nice to maga
He wants the income tax eliminated? That's the tax that holds billionaires accountable! Yeah, let's INCREASE income inequality. 🙄
@@williamyoung9401 100 yrs ago we relied on tariffs which means -- we taxed our importers and they passed that on to their customers . and that paid for the limited govt we had at that time. so the equal is a federal sales tax on everything . does he want that???
@@poruatokinYou mean like a Native American?
The confidence with which they express their ignorance is really something.
it’s called faith, not confidence. it’s within the spectrum of beliefs instead of understanding.
Dunning Kruger effect
This guy says he goes to China and he doesn't see buicks. I doubt this guy ever went to China ever. I actually go to china on business and there are American cars there. But the Chinese cars sell more.
@@marambulathats cool with religion not politics
He is explaining how the leader of USA has explained it to him.
Never has a video been so influential. This should have been Super Bowl Commercial.
just say a tariff is a import tax, paid by the local inporter to the government then passed on to the consumer.
Bingo!
They will still REFUSE to understand. Their absorbing/learning is BLOCKED! Also, they would have to ADMIT they were wrong! 😮😢
Even better call it a sales tax, to the consumer it works the same, and they understand sales tax. Just say it is applied before it hits the store because it is.
VP Harris said it over and over - I think she said it to Trump's face in their debate, he just said "no, it isn't." Others told Trump too; I remember an economist in one of those events Trump went to during his campaign, told him that tariffs are paid by consumers, he answered, "I don't believe it."
So... If you are Trumpist and hear Trump saying over and over and publishing on his platform Agenda 47 that all the world will be paying tariffs to the USA, what would you believe? Trump or the fake media, which you don't watch anyway?
That’s exactly what it actually is. The word tariff actually refers to the percentage or other rules that define how much import tax is to be paid. e.g. “Bananas imports are subject to a tariff of 8%”
The internet has made people experts at being dumb.
I call it “diarrhea of knowledge”.
Best comment 🏅
And gullible
It's deliberate if not just plain being lazy. The tool is useless if one insists to use a hammer when a screwdriver is called for.
The internet allowed morons to spew their nonsense and infect others. The internet still has good information, but some people don't want that information because it their biases won't agree with this new information and they don't want to be wrong or feel stupid. It's a bad cycle.
WE CAN’T TAX ANOTHER COUNTRY
They are literally idiotic to think we can tax another country.
They hate globalism, but then they’re all about globalist policies. Completely hypocrites and fools.
Imagine being middle-aged and still figuring out how the economy and politics works.
... actually, I think you can. If you sell the trade agreement for a transfer of national funds. Aka, a "pay us 20 cents per banana you want to export to us, and we'll give you a free trade agreement. Otherwise, we'll levy a tariff of 40 cents per banana." Just that I don't think this would be well received as a practice, and countries would just go "well sure, then go and screw over your own country's consumers, we'll just export to elsewhere in the meantime".
Not entirely sure this would truly be a 'tax' rather than 'national level extortion'.
@@Alblaka It's not a real tax even doing it in that manner... and ultimately, the local end customer pays. Essentially, ALL of it boils down to debt. Force the consumer to spend more so that their economic success is limited to merely paying the debts and force countries to bring on debt they'll never be capable of repaying so we can control them. We are being chained to the debt created by wealth inequalities of enormous proportions and shackled to wages so there's no escape.
These idiots can't understand that.
But you can sanction them.
I think one important point about why this worked is the fact that the expert was just a normal guy. He was not some figure of authority, he was simply explaining his job and he was doing so to educate, not to prove the other person wrong. It was so refreshing to see everyone be willing to talk and listen, and even ADMIT that they dont know everything. It is so rare to see these days. Thanks to everyone there, thanks for being civil and thanks for trying to understand.
It's not that refreshing to see the guy who clearly had no idea what he's talking about shouting about it, and then conclude with basically going "well I'm ignorant so i guess we'll never know"
@@JohnTyree Basically he was just saying "Whatever!"
@@JohnTyree I was quite impressed by him, it is difficult to listen at all when a worldview is so implanted.
but he still didnt understand. sadly ignorant.
I get that it's not a perfect resolution but it went so much better than 99% of these sort of exchanges you see online. So yes I'd call it refreshing. Maybe he didn't change his mind, but maybe he went home and did some research. I hope so. We aren't going to change everyone's mind immediately, and this was at least going in the right direction.
"I'm an importer and exporter for twenty years..."
I could really feel Walter's amazement at this absolute blessing just walking up to them.
Sounds like the chap has had to explain this ad nauseum
Kudos for his patience and clear definition.
Coincidence literally came around the corner on the interview .
"I'm a professional leech and I make a living off you and everyone else no matter what." is what he should have said.
I could feel it too 😂
it was bloody brilliant
Too late. In Canada, we learned about tariffs in junior high social studies. If baffles me that adults don't know, and can't be bothered to learn before deciding on them, and then voting for them. Wild.
Then why is Canada going do tarrfs on the US possibly in retaliation to trump isn't that a terrible idea because Canadians pay the tarif on David pacmans channel there's a Canadian leader wanting to impose terrifs for retaliation of Trump's terrifs
So true Adam!!! I'm Canadian as well, and I am shocked how many Americans don't know how they work, and if the tariffs on Canada, they will be paying more
And even though Canada and the US have a "Free Trade Agreement", renegotiated by Trump, Americans still pay a 14% tariff on Canadian softwood imports to build their homes.
It’s also sad that most adults in these united states don’t even know the difference between a pending charge, and authorized charge on a bank statement.
It's by design. Uneducated citizens are more gullible to all sorts of (mis) information. Just look at all the blatant lies the Führer 2.0 pumped out which were proven lies and yet his supporters believe every single word.
"You're confusing the question" is a wonderful way to correct someone politely and bring it back to the facts.
ironic considering he pulled a bait and switch to change what the issue was about. The issue was never about "cost" but about what China is trying to do with the cheap goods: make it impossible for domestic companies to compete with Chinese goods. China already controls about 20% of the US market, now imagine if they control vehicles and food as well?
@@nathanielbass771 However, this doesn't punish China and just punishes companies in the US and, in turn, the consumers in the US that buy from the companies. Tarrifs don't attack the countries that they are applied to, they attack importers of the goods coming into the country and the consumers who want to buy those goods. Also, I would like to point out how vehicles are not all made locally, often with outsourced parts from places like China due to being cheap and readily available to buy.
@@nathanielgalvan3819 except, it doesn't. The tax only applies at purchase, meaning that already existing purchases would not be taxed. The company would be choosing to risk the cost increase. While it might cause a momentary profit loss, the market would stabilize in under a year with usually few to no losses unless a company's entire lineup relied on a tariffed imported good. If said company already relies entirely on said good, they are not a domestic company and instead an intermediary middle man that may as well have been employed by the foreign nation. This is not even what is happening since the products China is attempting to introduce have not yet hit the market.
@ Sorry if I am misunderstanding you, but when did I ever say that the tax hit existing purchases? Also, companies will risk the cost increase if it means the consumer will ultimately pay for it. Tarrifs hurt the many industries that may rely on not just imported finished goods, but also the raw materials that cannot be found domestically.
President Trump had tariffs in his first term, with just under 1.4% inflation for the last 7 months straight of his Administration & a 4 year avg of 1.9%, w/stable affordable prices
Love the professional importer/exporter and love how intelligent the young man in this video is! Makes me proud and hopeful of the young generation
When prices went up during the pandemic, corporations passed 110% of the cost onto customers. The entire cost + a little extra for themselves. They are going to do the exact same thing with tariffs.
right, the 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico will end up increasing prices more like 30% because you know if you have to change the price you may as well take the opportunity to bump it a little further since you are already taking the pain anyway... And the best-case scenario is that now with the increased price, US companies' alternatives become competitive and can match the new increased import price... but either way that increases the price the consumer pays for it in the end, no way around that.
Many increased the price with more then 110% of the increased cost.
Let's be real it was closer to like 150% 😅
The government needs to cut down. Minimum wage lower. Taxes lowered.
They didn't just pass the Cost on the consumer, they made enormous profits.
They blamed it on logistical problems. guess that excuse wouldn't work if they have to bring their manufacturing back
This guy really went from "CHINA PAYS THE TARRIFFS! THEY DO!" to "well, I can't comment on that, I don't have the information" the moment he realized he was talking to someone who had even a single shred of knowledge on the subject.
@@LaMarcheFutilé101At least he had the grace to admit. Most national conservatives wouldn't budge because the modern GOP believes in loyalty above all else. Principles. Intelligence. Compassion. Everything.
@Bosef88 I don't give him a while lot of credit for shifting the goalposts, but I guess it's technically better than wholesale denial of reality.
Why in Europe you dont see much of GM vehicles , sedan , pick up and van , that is their whole current range ? They are still in business because Obama .
Ford produces cars in Europe , models they dont officially import to US just as Mustang is one US model you can get in Europe .
@@Bosef88 if the whole incident made the guy rethink and reassess what he’d previously been told, then that’s good enough for me. Things like this shouldn’t be a gloating exercise or an opportunity to belittle people - people get caught up in their beliefs and it affects us all - think of that national hero sportsperson who you’ve cheered on for years then find that they’d been cheating for decades - we all get caught out by something because we believe in something/someone.
The people I get frustrated with are those like one of the people on here who chose to blindly argue points with me without any actual data/facts - and when faced with the evidence in black and white, then choose to change the subject to Biden’s pardons, missing money etc etc …because they can’t bring themselves to accept what they’re being presented with that contradicts what they believe so they change the subject. The same sort of person will go away and tell their friends that the in/ex person was a ‘plant’ or AI…..
As I said elsewhere, if Trump shot someone in the head with a pistol, there are those around him who will argue the victim head butted the bullet. That’s what the world is up against. It’s not wrong to be uneducated - it’s criminal not to consider and question your leader’s actions tho.
Completely agree there is absolutely nothing wrong in being ignorant about something, as long as you are flexible enough to change your position when you have the full facts.
He walked away with knowledge, but no smarter. Your patience is exemplary.
they are building their personality around trump or maga. proofing them wrong is a direct attack on that personality.
people, in general, dont like it when the foundation of there core believe and personality gets attacked, even if this thread is imagined.
you cant persuate them away from that.
people always ask why the germans dont cease fighting even in late april 1945, THIS is the reason.
the ONLY way to get those people back is when THIS system gets total shattered. The republicans must guide this country in a hellhole of inflation and recession, best combined with an unpopular war and THAN people will crack and abandone this cult.
"Wisdom is chasing you, but you are faster!"
Trump voters, when presented with facts and evidence, usually react with disbelief. 🤡
They only believe their orange god!
A guy gets smarter by regularly trying to learn, an argument with an expert isn't gonna get him anywhere but it might get him to try and learn more about how tariffs actually work.
Hey man. The guy admit being uneducated and bit the bullet like a true gentleman. Everybody learns something everyday. And the importer and exporter expert is very calm and composed with his argument as well. Hats off to both.
This man in the green jacket is a breath of fresh air. He doesn’t come across as a politically absorbed obnoxious person and educates in a calm, respectful, intelligent, and articulate manner.
The man I. The green jacket is bias and has an agenda. His facts are misleading and incorrect.
he is a functionally illiterate moron who proudly states nonsense and then denies the truth when its presented.
Well after you tell with Trumpers for years it's nigh impossible to try and educate them in a calm, respectful, intelligent way. Especially online. It just takes so much time and energy and they just shut down and post a laugh emoji.
They're so damn misinformed by the right it is nigh IMPOSSIBLE to talk to them logically because their entire worldview is based on lies. It's so frustrating to see these people vote for the side fucking them. Like this guy in green almost lost his patience just from this one guy because he REFUSED to listen and had so much misinformation in his head from the right that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. You have to spend so much time and energy to plow through all the nonsense before you can even HOPE to get them to listen to facts. It's deliberate from the right.
And does not have an American ac cent.
@@OakmanNZHe's from South Africa
I absolutely adore that importer/exporter. He is so kind, and patient!
Anyone who talks to you sweetly be very sure they have an agenda.
His business is going belly up with tariffs.
US govt was helping his business by *printing US dollars* and screwing the local manufacturing. Printing of deficit causes inflation.
Honestly like am asking as a friend weren't you scolded at home for not studying all your subjects. Like in my home if we said this stuff my parents would have hit us, because it was academically wrong.
PS as a family we were exporting goods to US for 15 years.
Agreed and he managed to stop that guy from just moving the goalposts to his next talking point. However I think he needed to make it clearer that whilst the end consumer pays, the US government is the sole recipient. The exporting nation never bares the cost (it may bare a reduced market share but it never pays the tariff directly).
The other thing is Trump talks about blanket tariffs against nations. He's not targeting specific goods, whereby it might actually make US manufacturers more competitive as in most cases the US won't even have manufacturers that are producing the goods he's slapped a tariff on. It's just a money grab, plain and simple.
@@gandharvagrover8396 yes he has a vested interest, but it's fair to correct Trump's lies that China, Mexico, Canada, Denmark, etc etc will be the ones paying, or that the US consumer will be the one hit hard. As I pointed out in my comment, most of the goods Trump will tariff don't have a local manufacturer that can supply. The US printing money is a different argument and has nothing to directly do with tariffs, they found after several QE tranches that inflation wasn't affected, so your purchasing power remained the same. Most citizens would be happy about that if they actually understood it, aka free money that the taxpayer isn't personally responsible for.
@@ilaser4064where does the USD comes from for paying all the imports ?
Do you export anything?
You need to print it... and that my friend is USD devaluation or inflation.
Have you seen the strength is USD index since Trump won it is because market expects less printing of USD now.
Am not being rude here. Just asking...
@@gandharvagrover8396what causes either inflation or deflation…the circulation of said money, if it’s not being spent then it’s not circulating at the rate that the Fed wants to see.
Remember the federal reserve is 12 seats that communicate the ups and downs of this economy, they’re mostly occupied with private bankers…but look to where the wealth is being trapped….corporate real estate and lately, land for multiple mile wide data centers using subsidized utilities…by the tax payer…almost like the government works for corporations, not normal folks.
I’ve never seen so much confidence from a man who doesn’t even know what he’s talking about. Don’t know how you guys were so patient with him.
every trump supporter
I know exactly what I am talking about and am 100% right. People here claiming you can not impose tariffs on another country are just mental - they ALREADY EXIST.
@ I'm Australian and vote left wing - I just happen to be able to think logically and have been educated.
he knew something, when he talked levelling playing field in respect to china, there is a situation that china subsidies certain industrie, thus effectively applying negative tariffs on their products that are exported (solar panels is a good example). imposing tariffs on panels creates a level playing field by negating the effect of the china's subsidies.
also, about buyer always pays tariffs, true to some extend, since there is such a concept as elasticity of demand. the more expensive product is, the less people buys it. in an extreme scenario tariffs might be so big that nobody will buy such product, effectively making situation that nobody pays for tariffs, since nothing is being sold.
@@Artemis3311 Trump lives rent free in your head...nerd.
I definitely appreciate the conversation remained civil and no one talked over each other. Plenty of MAGA do not have the emotional intelligence for that. This guy definitely does.
This guy have just performed a selfless civic duty, with grace and utmost respect to the ignorant . Thanks.
Too lage already voted for the fachist
Us is so screwed thats this is considered "selfless civic duty"
Usa is the most selfish and greedy country in history lol
i love trump ! because hes always make CHINA GREAT AGAIN 😍🇨🇳😍🇨🇳😍🇨🇳😍🇨🇳
"Ignorant" means to ignore the truth, facts, or reality. It looked like he didn't do that. He was told what the truth is by someone he trusts to know, and he accepted that information to be the truth. He might have been an idiot for voting for Trump, though.
@@piliana12the facist? Who's the one who had to vote for a handpicked candidate? Who's the one who supported forcing people to take an untested vaccine?
Honestly, while I have so much respect for the folks that conducted the interview (especially the import/exporter), I also do appreciate that the person they were interviewing was willing to stand there and have the debate, whether he was wrong, right, invested, he still listened and didn’t just walk off. Progress 🙏🏼
He walked away unconvinced.
Yeah, he walked away thinking "this exporter have no idea, he is right, but I dont mind, maga has the truth of god in the hands, god bless Trump even if he is wrong, because I love his haircut, he is rich and has a Elon"
If I was a betting woman, I'd bet you that next time he talks about tariffs he'll be back to claiming china will pay the tariffs.
He still did not understand.
💯
This guy was fantastic. Not only did he explain tariffs very well, but he handled the man's attempt to change the subject very well. He both admitted what he doesn't know, and stopped the man from re-framing the issue at the same time.
Because he really knows his fucking shit.
@@GetUpAndGetDown ...and the Trumpet didn't know shit.
I agree and disagree. While he kept the MAGA supporter on point, I think the MAGA supporter may have been going somewhere worth discussing. It's not just about "winning" the question, but about having an intelligent conversation.
My follow up is: if you don't want tariffs because it doesn't make the exported product cheaper than one made locally by people who are treated more fairly, does that mean you are ok with slave labor for your cheaper product as long as it's somewhere else?
@matthewhart7538 No, it's not worth discussing with that particular guy. You think someone that doesn't understand the basics of tariffs is going to understand more complicated trade and economic policy?
I don't even disagree with your general point... I think that strategies to reduce dependence on imports and stimulate the economy through internal development work fantastically. South Korea is a good example of this.
But slapping tariffs on everything like Trump is doing is a childish and irresponsible. I doubt he is actually trying to solve the problems you brought up... but if he was, this isn't the way to go about it.
Trade agreements are especially great for anything that can't be produced locally. So blanket tariffs sometimes increase prices on certain goods in ways that do nothing to stimulate the local economy.
Additionally, Trump wants to put tariffs on my country, Canada, as well. That definitely can't be motivated by the problems you mentioned, as Canada has similar employment standards to the US.
Also, it would be better to actually develop internal industries prior to creating tariffs. Raising the prices of imports does nothing for local business if the industry isn't developed enough to compete in the first place.
Also, tariffs are generally way smaller than the amounts Trump is throwing around. There are good reasons for that. He is acting with a serious lack of consideration for the economic affects of his policies.
If the MAGA guy didn’t even know how a tariff worked or who pays even though the guy he voted for has made it one of his key selling points then there is probably not much point in going into an extended conversation with him on potential effects of it down the road. The one thing he could have mentioned is that the US tried this before in the 1930s to encourage domestic manufacturing and it was a bit of a disaster.
Thank you for explaining this to those that are misled. We as consumers end up paying for that tariff.
Here we are arguing about tarrifs...
Whos selling US Bonds? Who is stepping in to buy US debt? Inflation is not going down. New world order up for grabs... ect. BRICS looking to launch.. Lets all focus on that?
“I don’t know, I don’t know enough to debate what you’re telling me”
Then shut up and listen.
@ Yes, because his version of things is simple. Good guys, bad guys, making the world “fair”. The wool is very comfy.
He isn’t trying to debate he is trying to educate.
depends brother, maga people pretend to be experts then people sit and listen to their dogshit and believe it. Listening is good but also so is critical thinking.
Hey, he never said that he wasn't still going to try, pidgeon-playing-chess style.
"My understanding is..."
Your understanding is wrong, so it's time to start over.
They are so brainwashed
Brain dead- mentally ill.
they think you’re being divisive and taking things too seriously if you correct them in their ignorance.
hopeless
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
- Joseph Goebbels
@@marambula. Beyond de-programming
Just misinformed
I do want to point out this is one of the most calm maga supporters I’ve ever seen and he actually listened so let’s give him some props for that because even though he may not know what he was talking about he actually listened and was respectful and willing to be educated on something. If every maga supporter was like this guy we would actually make some progress as a country so props to him🎉
I saw one of them in a Klepper interview the other day that also listened and admitted he had not done enough research. The optimist in me wants to believe that they're starting to doubt what they've been told but I've just seen too much stupidity and doubling down to really be able to hope anymore.
As bad as he was he was calm and willing to listen...That is for a MAGA man.🙄
You don't get special credit for being able to engage in civilized conversation. That is the bare minimum.
@@goddessgia27the bar is 5 feet under ground
Yes honestly he did not shout or yell, he listened... he did not quite grasp it maybe, but he atleast listened. If only people would have done this before the damn election!
Can I like this more than once? People sadly don't understand what they voted for at all!
"i can't counter that, i don't have the information". MY GUY HE JUST GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION!!!
“I need to hear what Fox News tells me to respond back.”
You can't counter the information when you started out with no information.
Now that you have the information, it's incumbent on you to update your position.
@@Collins311 you do know biden kept almost all trumps tariffs and actually increased some? China pays their manufacturing workers less than 5 dollars an hour and can make a car for less than 10k without the tariffs we have zero manufacturing and our auto industry would be dead , so know that you have information are you changing your position? It’s way more complicated than this video showed.
@@bobagorofexactly.
accepting what someone says at face value is folly. The person in the video is using a bait and switch tactic where he makes the argument what it was never about in the first place, hence why so many people are confused. the "cost" was never the issue but that it is impossible for US producers to compete with it. China would then control roughly 20% of the US market and vehicles and food... now try imagining that when China says that $2 per day with no shelter and one "meal" per day is not living in poverty...
It's amazing how confident they are in their ignorance.
It is almost impressive I’ll admit
Typical Marxist remark
dude, ignorant people are always confident. It's the knowledgeable one's that know how less they know
@@Mei-b3e Typical Trumpturd deflection.
Paid actor = import/expert guy. Whole production is propaganda.
it is like watching a child learn to read, truly fascinating
to a certain degree you gotta feel for these people, main reason they are voting Trump is just lack of education
which you can't really blame them for, they live in a system that discourages and hinders that, that's part of the problem
underfunded public schools, little paid vacation and spare time, low wages, privatized media, etc.
@@benzo___ Bullshit, it's a lack of integrity and intelligence. They have just the same opportunities to pull their heads out of their ass as the rest of us, they just choose not to, willful ignorance.
@fify your statement is so correct
Children tend to want to learn, though.
Being snotty doesn't really help tho
Take the high road and help your fellow Americans learn
1:05 "I travel to China often (...) You don't see like a Buick in China"
Actually, China is quite a large market for Buick. They sell models there that aren't even available in the US. Also, since 2010 they've sold over half a million cars every year in the Chinese market, with some years well above a million, like 2016 when they sold over 1.2 million.
I didn't know that
This was the first thing that came to my mind when he said Buick. Of all the American brands he could've referred to, he uses one of the most popular ones in China!
@@DomoniqueMusicloverBuick only exists because of Chinese sales. No one buys them here except senior citizens.
Which is how you know the dude was lying about often visiting china; Buick is a top brand he’d have noticed that
He's lying. It's one of the big skills that Trump has encouraged in his maga followers.
Love to that humble man who shared his experience without hurting the less informed man's ego. I hope I someday learn to be so tactful.
I'm a preschool teacher and this is the exact approach I use when I engage with small children in the classroom. Patience is key, breaking things down so that even a small child can understand and not raising your voice as if you're yelling at the child they likely not going to listen to their educator. This teaching technique is known as inserting calm.
That professional importer/exporter should also tell that loudmouth buffoon there is no Chinese cars in the US, but there are literally millions upon millions of American cars in China the last 35 years or so! There are less of them now thanks to the fact that China has started to make its own cars the last several years, but there are still millions of American cars in China despite the fact that the US has banned Chinese cars from coming into the US! It is not China that isn’t playing fair, it is the US that isn’t playing fair! The US is the one that is afraid of playing fair with China for fear that a fair competition with China would result in Chinese companies putting American companies out of business because their products are that much better than what the American companies are producing and the Chinese companies are selling their products at that much of a lower price than the American companies! Even the US auto company CEO’s are saying so to the US government and that’s why the US government bans Chinese cars from coming into the US! The US government is not only putting 100% tariffs on Chinese cars before a single one of them has arrived into the US, it actually bans all Chinese cars from coming into the US even if the American importers are willing to pay for that 100% tariff on Chinese cars they are not allowed to bring Chinese cars into the US and this fact is never revealed to the American people!
He is South African. I know the accent well.
I love how you used the ‘less informed man’ euphemism.
@@ProMaceAmerica paid for the country with tariffs. The controle is that you spend your money or don't.
Voting for something you have absolutely no idea about = the Law of BREXIT
👏👏👏👏
Haha true. Was a big shock for lot of brits and it took half decade to finished the "deal". Greetings 🇩🇪
Swathes of voters wanted Brexit because England is desperate to close their borders to invaders and protect their children, not everything is about money.
And it has turned out a disaster for us Brits. We will regret it even more now with Trump in power as we are floundering on our own. We would be in a lot stronger position if we had stayed in the EU.
Bang on.
At least he listened and didn't start shouting maga, maga, maga.
He may have listened but he still doesn't get it. I doubt he even went to China becasue I go there on business all the time and there are American cars there. In fact they manufacture some American cars there and also import some.. But most cars are Chinese. These people like to talk about things they have no idea about.
He barely listened at all, he was trying to derail the conversation in several directions and had to be reigned back on topic, and when it was explained fully and concisely to him he still tried to fall back “I don’t have the information on me” as if he would even be convinced then.
Simply put, they don’t want it to be that way, so they will do anything and think anything to make it so that they can ✨believe🌈✨
He could have if he thought it would not make him look dumber than he already was.
@@earlr2992 Or he did go, for a day or two, and happened not to see any American cars in the city he was in. And so he decided that must be how the entire country is, all the time.
That is true, I’ll give him that usually they walk away.
Oh my head hurts after watching & listening to the conversation, those men had so much patience
Imagine having this much confidence and having no clue.
Right? He even has such nerve to debate despite his obvious stupid ignorance. 🙄😏🤨
Confidently incorrect 😂
That’s the most galling part. He has no clue but he thinks he knows everything.
Wrong
The more ignorant you are the smarter you think you are. It's called the Dunning Kruger effect.
That was amazing, especially as the person finally recognized that maybe he did not understand the tariff process. He might not of been fully convinced.
What an excellent example from the importer on how to inform.
He might not have been, not of been.
@@WT17789You have to start somewhere and I am probably the worst at reading people I sensed a ‘pause’ or room for him to explore new ideas.
If he were to accept what the importer told him, that would mean that his lord and savior orange jesus would be wrong. And that's unacceptable in the cult of tRump.
@@WT17789 Ye. Him going 'welp, guess I was wrong' in the end doesn't mean hes the next saint. But it's a silver lining.
@@alastairgreen2077 doesn't matter. By now both forms are understood and widely used, and thus correct, even if you or anyone else doesn't like it. That's just how language works.
Walter. You are a National Treasure! This is so profound
Thank you
@@waltermastersonkeep up the fight. Godspeed you stay safe as these fascists feel more brazen.
He'll be an enemy of the state, soon.
@@waltermasterson Trump's proposed tariffs are not intended to be permanent fixtures of U.S. trade policy but rather tools for negotiation. The idea is to use tariffs as leverage to compel trading partners to make concessions that benefit U.S. industries and address unfair trade practices. This strategy puts pressure on other nations to reduce barriers to U.S. exports, eliminate subsidies that disadvantage American companies, or agree to more equitable terms in trade agreements.
By implementing or threatening tariffs, the goal is to create a sense of urgency for other countries to come to the negotiating table. Once the desired agreements are reached, the tariffs can be reduced or removed, making them a temporary measure designed to shift the balance of trade in favor of the United States. This approach aims to secure long-term economic advantages without committing to long-term protectionist policies.
@@waltermasterson You uploaded a video that is being used to attack people. Look at your comment section. That's the effect your video y has on people. You absolutely have the power to stop this but you allow it because you hate Trump voters.
I just learned a great deal by just listening 👂. - Thank You !
Tariffs are a cost put on companies here and is passed on to consumers. PERIOD.
You couldn't wake up someone who pretend to sleep.
Did this douche also take him to Biden and explain to him about tarrifs bc they were so bad Biden kept them..
He was being confused with facts that a 10 year old can grasp.There are not enough words to describe the ignorance and stupidity of the MAGA American Public
Exactly, no companies will ever handle those added cost and price is driven up to make up for it.
You're right and you can't say it any simpler than that but they still won't understand.
To finally back down and admit he doesn’t have even knowledge on the matter was so beautiful. We ALL need to tap into our own humility. Good on the import/export fellow for schooling him with such patience. America, if we could have more of this, please.
He was lying about traveling to China and seeing no Buicks. GM was selling more cars in China than in the US for many years.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
I was impressed actually that he didn't throw up his hands call them all stupid and run away plugging his ears. Maybe there is some small hope for MAGA people.
@@christopherobrien3441they create the best echoes
Isn't it interesting how he said he wasn't educated AFTER he tried to convince people he was right?
It’s alarming when basic economics aren’t understood by people who vote SOLELY for economic purposes.
They also seem to fail at critical thinking skills if they believe a slimy slumlord, womanizer, failed reality star, failed casino owner, failed serial fraudster, and pathological liar is honestly going to help them at all.
They don't have to understand economy, they just need a candidate to tell them they will definitely and absolutely make things cheaper (lie).
But Trump himself sat down with an economist and told the economist that he was very bad at his job and very bad at math but that he, Trump, understood economics better and would set this economist straight. It is surreal.
Economics wasn't taught until I went to college. Is it still that way?
@ Tariffs aren’t really something that require an “economics” class to learn about and they were covered in Canadian history classes that I used to teach when I taught high school history. A tariff is easy enough to understand if you look at them this way (and I am NO economics teacher; I hardly passed my intro to economics class in university, so I’ve learned to put them in a way that my grade 10 students could understand easily because I also need easy explanations!): they are taxes placed on imported goods that the consumer pays; they raise the price of any imported good. Tariffs are a double-edged sword for the country imposing them (in this case, the US) because they can hurt the consumer if they choose to buy these taxed goods (bad) and can serve to increase interest in locally produced goods that are not taxed (good…apart from the fact that domestically produced goods often cost more anyway because North Americans won’t work for crap pay and in crap conditions like people will in other countries). However, no country produces all of the goods they require (despite what Donnie says). The US depends on a ton of Canadian imports (just like we do American imports). A tariff war will hurt both of our economies because we do trillions in dollars in trade each year between our two countries. A tariff is a tax consumers pay on goods that are imported from another country and that is all there is to it.
The importer/exporter guy is amazing! We need him to run the morning news circuit (especially FOX) and explain this to the masses.
I think that everyone in this conversation deserves respect for the way they discussed this, and to the MAGA guy for at least acknowledging the one point that he clearly had wrong. I would like to see all discourse be like this.
Agreed. MAGA guy didn’t have the same level of patience that the importer did but the conversation was still fairly respectful.
The Biden administration kept trumps tariffs in place, inflation was just 1.4% at the end of trumps first term, and I would say MAGA is smarter than you.
It took a random stranger disproving everything he said for the MAGA guy to even halfway admit he was wrong. That’s not a victory, he’s still going to be the same close minded fool he was before
Don't agree fully. Green coat here didn't listen to be educated and/or get informed but to interrupt with his non factual arguments in an attempt 'to win the argument'. His 'I'm not informed enough' was a cop out -> I don't have any arguments left to argue and I will not acknowledge your expertise so I'm done.
I am glad that you guys admit that Biden's taxes destroyed our economy.
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Never wrestle with a pig. You’ll both get covered in sh-t but the pig enjoys it.
The stupid remain stupid, there is no pill to help them. - German folk saying,
Or ignore solid arguments and continue to live in their own hubris...
It gets frustrating.
Yep
Mark Twain !!!!
"My understanding." That's the problem. He doesn't, and he doesn't want to. This is an EXCELLENT presentation and discussion of how this things work in practical society.
While we the people do bare the cost of the tariffs, trumps threats to raise them so high still is a bad thing for the other countries. As if the tariffs they are high, then the price goes up. You guys in America won't buy them. Which then hurts the other countries that want to sell products to America.
@@yoyoyo3531to a point that is true. But on things like agriculture they take their business elsewhere. His first term hit farmers the worst where close 50% of money in farming was subsidized by the government. China turned around and went to South America. They could grow the crops and trade with them for cheaper forever hurting the trade with china leaving farmers hurt. So yes it works for some products, but not all.
its a bad thing just for america, tariffs cause inflation, greedy companies that do manufacture in the US will also raise the prices because they can use that inflation as an excuse
@@yoyoyo3531 tariffs aren’t about hurting any country. They’re about protecting a fledgling domestic economy from cheaper competition so it can grow. It’s about far more than tariffs. Tariffs can be a disaster for the working class of a nation if used inappropriately, and trump is doing just that.
from my experience they do everything they can to stay away from any facts. like actively.
that's the "you can't trust the main stream" nonsense which is actually just orwell's 1984-
"don't believe your eyes and ears. it is the most important directive"
Awesome conversation, who would have thought a exporter importer was nearby. Just meant to be. Grateful because now I know how tariffs work.
The funny thing is that even if the Chinese manufacturers pay for the tariff, they will pass the extra cost to you. They are not going to absorb it.
Exactly
I think the problem is that a lot of English speaking people don't understand that tariff is a tax due to the language reason. In Chinese, tariff is literally translated as custom tax, so everyone knows it is a tax.
Yeah that's the idea of tarrifs. Make the imported product so expensive for all parties involved until the company decides to manufacture inside the country or the alternative product already in the country starts gaining more customers.
It's like carbon tax make production techniques that cause too much environmental harm cost more than techniques that cause less harm.
The only thing is whether the expected result actually happens as people are an unpredictable system. They may just decide to continue paying the higher prices or they may just stop using that product entirely.
We should reduce Chinese importation as much as possible, but that should take careful calculation over a certain span of time.
@@billshi6005No, absolutely not. In German, Taxes are Steuern and Tariffs are Zölle, but everyone and their Mother understands that you as a Customer pay the Zoll. It's a Matter of over half of that Country being a Bunch of uneducated Lilypad Waterers.
I love how calmly he's explaining it. Direct, Concise, Kind, Super Informative. Someone give this man a podcast, lol.
Yes but also not everyone needs a podcast.
@panlat7931 that's the joke
People who need this information, like the MAGA guy, don't want to learn. Everything this man told him about importing he could have learned on his own
The man explaining tariffs is too smart to have a UA-cam channel because he’s busy managing his import/export business. Ironic isn’t it?
I thought everyone had a podcast by now but me
It’s amazing how much of a difference it makes when you can keep someone on topic, be calm, and have a measured tone!
Edit: added "of" to of a difference
It’s such a valuable skill and that importer is gifted with it.
The problem here is, was he really “converted”? Or is he going to leave this conversation just to listen to a right winger on UA-cam with a voice and tone that is certainly NOT measured telling him not to believe is lying eyes and ears?
This is like teaching a rock how to swim.
My desire is to be very good at communicating like this.
@@kennethguthrie180he didn’t seem to want to be educated but I’ll give him credit for listening and then admitting he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
How this interaction just happened is perfect. You couldn't script this conversation better than reality.
I love that he seemed to finally get most of it. The guy was willing to learn and admit when he did not know something. Good for all of them.
Unlike the majority who'd rather die than admit they're wrong.
Maybe, but ask him today and he's probably spouting the same bullshit he was at the start of the video
...and after he left, he educated himself by looking up articles on Breitbart. He's not gonna let some fancy-ass Satan loving euro communist trick him with "facts."
Yeah, but the lesson wasn't portable to the next incident, and no wisdom was learned. Very superficial
except he was only willing to admit he didn't know once he got push back from someone who did, he was perfectly happy by his own admission to lie before that
The right person came in at the exact right time to drop some knowledge on someone who was certain they knew what they were talking about. Great video!
Except he didn't really "drop some knowledge" and this isn't a "great video" either. He selectively left out the most important part about tariffs to make tariffs seem bad/ilogical. And made this video solely about "who pays the tariffs" to make random people on the street seem unintelligent, the comment section bought it of course 🤣🤣
...Yes the american consumer would be the ones "paying the tariff" down stream, but what actually happens in practice with tarrifs is entirely different.
For example, if Trump were to put 100% tariff on chinese cars, people wouldn't just continue buying chinese cars for double the price, they would choose a non-chinese car or better yet an american made car. This would negatively impact the chinese car market and positively impact the american car market, giving leverage power to the US in trade negotiations with china, if china tried to respond with tariffs of their own the US would just respond back. This is what tariffs are about, trade pressure, not "who pays the tariffs".
@@Synthwalk lololololololol
Watch the clip again man, the whole conversation is literally started with "who pays the tariffs?"
The guy is wrong and everyone is trying to explain that to him. After some time he moves the goal post because he realizes he cant argue about that any more, but he never aknowldges he was wrong. Cause he is a little baby coward small man.
In addition, regardless of trade pressure it is an undeniable fact that tariffs will cause prices to rase, which is something people on Trump's side are trying to deny and deflect over. Prices going up is bad for consumers and what most people are complaining about.
dont be a cringe bot
@@Synthwalkcan you name a single brand that is made in China and then sold in America? Just so you know, you are not completely wrong but you are misunderstanding the situation.
@@dcgamer1027 I never said the guy in the video was right, i said both the "expert" in the video and this channel itself are tricking people who don't know about tariffs into believing they are bad by focusing on the "who is paying the tariff" which is not the part that actually matters. There's no "regardless of trade pressure" the "trade pressure" itself is what matters, you can try to down play it all you want but that's the way America was operating when it was at its richest point in history, price hikes generated by tariffs are offset by taxcuts and arising competing markets. Nice try though, "cringe bot".
@@Synthwalk Did you hear the young man talk about American made products and labor laws and wages?
this is what we need. a healthy conversation between individuals that listen without disrespecting each other.
I dunno, Maga kept trying to talk over everyone to prove his *non* - point. It's why I don't bother arguing, they don't really listen. Importer guy was just patient enough and didn't let himself get talked over when buddy started yapping.
F the MAGAts.
The whole comment section is still trying to shit on a guy who was willing to talk, listen and adjust his stance.....if that's a bad person people are willing to vilianize, orange umpa loompa is going to stay in office for a long time lol
Agreed!
@@99PlasticsYou've got a point. That Republican was one of the few decent ones I've seen recently.
The idea of a tariff is to dissuade American countries from using international suppliers. The idea is it makes them more expensive than goods manufactured nationally.
This was definitely one of the best impromptu segments I've seen. Great job, to the random business owner who stepped in when he saw the opportunity.
Educating the "poorly educated," I admire your optimism.
maga is just as stupid as trump 🙄
his explanation and the other guys ignorance does not matter all that much in these matters. fact is the west and its liberal elite at some point decided china should be subsidized by developed world. which is one of the worst decisions since WW2.. we have effectively set in motion our own destruction. on tech, on jobs, on profit and the environment. and on top of this we have paid for a gigantic amount of pirated versions of our own products
I think it is a hopeless cause
Two steps brainwash here: 1. Deliberately misinforming the decisive role regarding how the market is being adjusted with a plain wrong point that the government or policy can control the market, using misleading wording of "charging another country tariff" to deliver such wrong point, and hoping the patriotic emotion stirred-up will make the misleading wording stick to the audience minds.
2. Let the audience act on the patriotic emotion and verify the sound logical relationship of the above misleading wording and misinformation. Assure and praise the audience to brainwash themselves that what they factually perceived as wrong is actually true, as a result, they will fully believe what they're factually wrongly told.
Brainwash completed and success!
The most difficult part is, step 2, for the brainwashed to realize and admit their own judgments are wrong, so much so that they will admit that their understanding of the issue is wrong, but still find a way to convince themselves that whatever being said in the step 1 is correct. That's why scammers always target who has been scammed once already.
Thank you Walter for letting me and my dad talk with you!
You are the young man in the video?
I loved what you and your father said.
Many blessings to you and your whole family.❤️
🥰💙🇦🇺
You guys did awesome Adam! Loved the co-sign from you later on in the convo! Created a bigger picture for the other guy after ur dad's crisp-and-factual info drop
Was that a South African accent??
I think the labour law bit is a bit confusing to a non-US citizen. If there's labour law to protect US workers, then why do we hear about the nasty conditions that Amazon subject its workers. You know the pee bottle, toilet break monitoring, heat exhaustion in the warehouse. Why isn't Amazon sued into oblivion?
Love that everybody was polite to each other , listen to each other and most important thing tariff supporter man is convinced.Please make this speech with whole American People
The sad reality of this whole mess is that certain individuals still aren't prepared to stop and listen to people who know what they are talking about. For them, experts and the facts are dirty words
But, hats off to the man with the knowledge of how tarrifs work actually work in the real world and to the person who, hopefully, was re-educated.
Great vid
Yes! They call themselves maga.
Our education system has failed us. Critical and ethical thinking is a college course that should be taught in k-12.
It teaches us to use credible and verifiable facts/evidence, and not feelings/hearsay, as the basis of our worldviews.
When we use feelings/hearsay we create distorted worldviews. When those distorted worldviews come into question with contradictory facts/evidence there is stress in the psyche known as cognitive dissonance. There are only two reactions to the stress, acceptance or denial of the facts that caused it. A critical thinker can take new facts/evidence and evolve their worldview, whereas someone who lacks said skill will deny the facts and often times become hostile, in order to uphold core beliefs, no matter how flawed.
Open-minded with a healthy sense of skepticism. The first thing a critical thinker does when confronted with new information, is question the credibility of source. Then verify.
@reeves5000 Excaptional summation of how in this social media age the art of critical thinking seems to be lost on those seeking simple answers to complex questions. You are also correct in suggesting that certain people, when presented with unquestionable facts, will go into denial and side with misinformation and conspiracy
As philosopher Dietrich Bonhoeffer, said: "Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice."
@@philspur1882 I'm sure the saying, "A stupid friend is more dangerous than a smart enemy" came from that quote!
sad to say, that guy went home and said, "Some guy tried to say that we pay tariffs...what a moron - donald said it's going to bring in the bigliest money and I believe him."
We need more calm discussion like this.
Lol calm discussion with maga. That actually made me chuckle.
The calm conversations have been buried by the right since at least the 80,s .
With whom? 😂
A lot of people are clowning on the guy but I wish all maga people were like that. He actually listened and admitted he didn't know enough about it in the end.
@claudiodidomenico i get your point ,but that guy was busy arguing with folk that had knowledge as he was busy arguing his point instead of taking his point at face value the way they swollow the lies told to him by his choice of people.
Wal-mart buys a hat made in China for $10 and sells it to an American customer for $13. With a 25% that hat will now cost $12.50. Do you still think they'll sell it for $13? Of course not. That hat now sells for $15. So thanks to the tariff, that hat now costs an extra $2 - paid by the American customer. Now take that example and multiply it by hundreds of billions throughout all industries. Get ready for prices to skyrocket. A tariff is a tax and it's a tax that 's paid by the consumer. Not the country making the product.
The other way to Phrase it is, CHINA still gets their "Global price" of "$10"
The reality though is closer to that they buy the hat for $1 and sell it for $13. A 100% tariff would make it $2. However, if the U.S. wants to build up its local clothing manufacturing, it might cost $4/hat to buy from an American factory. So a 100% tariff on Chinese hats transitions the market from $1 vs. $4 to $2 vs. $3 as the tariff funds should be directed to domestic producers. This is an over-simplified example, but the goal is that by subsidizing local manufacturing, those manufacturers should receive more orders. More orders (growth)= investment. Investment = new machinery and growth = better deals for raw materials, lowering costs. Tariffs are a tool to try to level the playing field, but local consumers will lose access to cheaper imports. Tariffs can also impose a burden on foreign manufacturers/governments as they still want to grow into the US market, so when they plan to sell 1M units a month based on a price point of what American consumers can pay, they *may* choose to absorb some of the additional tariff costs by lowering the price to support sales volume.
Worse. That hat now costs $17. They're not gonna take a 50-cent cut, either. They're gonna use the tariff excuse to get an extra $1.50 profit.
@@chrispswann6825 and they haven't yet reduced the taxes......
@@stevepy6758 the thing is in some cases, America no longer has the infrastructure to, for example, make that hat. They first have to get that business going, employ staff, buy equipment, build the factory whatever. It all takes time, and the American people will not want to work for $7.25 per hour. That was discovered during the pandemic, when drugs were having to come frome India, ventilators from Europe and masks and other gear from China. America is not self sufficient, and employees will not work for a pittance, when the CEO is paid massive salaries and bonuses. I agree that America needs to boost industry and employment, but cold turkey is not going to make it happen.
Great vid! I appreciate the tariff supporter admitting his defeat at the end too. Not an easy thing to do!
As a European hearing Americans say they have good employment laws is so conflicting. I genuinely don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Both
Good labor laws in the US ended with Reagan.
Good labour laws that are so good a lot of Americans have to rely on tips to survive.
I tell you, it makes me very grateful that the parent company of the job I work for is based in Europe. Things could be better, yes, but then things could be like American businesses, and that would be appallingly worse. I got a real good look at it, up close and personal, during the pandemic.
LOL @ YOU!!!
You stupid Europeans have health care and only work 3/4 of a year with all your "pro-People" holiday laws!!
You suckers don't work yourselves to death without care like "TRUE PATRIOTS"!!!
🙄😲🙄Right? Guys..? Hello? Americans have the best of everything, right?!?!?
HELLO? Why is nobody answering me?! USA! USA! USA
HELLO???? 🙄🙄🙄
Every American needs to watch this. Also what a respectful, reasonable group discussing without anger. Bravo!
So in other words it's cheaper to build mine farm harvest in your home country than it is to get it imported. 😅
@@lovelyskull3483 it was respectful but there’s way more to it than that, biden kept almost all of trumps tariffs and actually increased some. China pays there manufacturing workers less than 5 dollars an hour so they can make a car for less than 10K without the tariffs we have no manufacturing jobs and zero auto industry. And yes being respectful
@@computerlearingchannel4257 Not necessarily. If you have poor soil or wrong climate or lack of workers it may not be. Maybe they have better technology.
@@tgkoski306 in other words imported will be needed for unobtainable goods. Why do we need to import avocados when we can just farm them ourselves why do we need to import crude oil when we can just produce it ourselves
Thank god for the intelligent, educated people of this world holding the line against ignorance and insanity.
SIdney Rittenberg 1921-2019
The first American citizen to be admltted into the Communist
Party of China. An influential advisor to Mao Zedong who had a
pivotal role at the Broadcast Authority. That position earned him
a higher salary than Chairman Mao.
What is a woman
@@justinh2701someone who covers their drink around you
@@GoldenAstroCat shame we don’t have one running the country 😂 how a business man is so incredibly inept is astounding! Oh that’s right… professor said he cheated in school and was the dumbest student he had. Now, that explains it! Good job America 💩
An educated, intelligent Individuum would not thank the imaginary Friend for something. Think about it.
Every single US citizen should see this Video. Great one.
Remeber these are the same people who still dont know ObamaCare and the ACA are the same thing
Or that they were screwed out of what was meant to be a MUCH more effective system (Still not as good as the Chinese have)
Many still think The South won the Civil War. Oh, and that t-rump won in 2020. Oh, and that t-rump will save us and really cares about us. Oh, and that he's super smart too.
@@darkcity2004 and your the same person who doesn’t know biden kept almost all of trumps tariff’s and actually increased some
They give it the nickname and then think it's something else, these Americans are wild!
The GOP certainly knows their political base well! 😂
$7.50 an hour minimum wage is not looking after workers,,a minimum wage that hasn’t altered since 2009, is not looking after workers
Oh yeah, accounting for inflation insect activity , we should all be making over $25 an hour at minimum wage
It is compared to Chinese workers
Yeah I think he means in comparison to China which literally has slave labor.
Yeah I was about to say - I think he simply meant in relation to Chinese workers
That minimum wage needs to be at least triple.
Many thanks to the importer who explained the facts from a professional point of view with a lot of patience and simple language.
Also the importer being willing to say when something was outside of his area of expertise (ie. saying that he doesn't know whether it's good policy to tariff a particular product). It takes maturity and self-awareness to admit that, and being aware that you don't know something is the first step in learning more about it and seeking out more informed opinions.
Even I could understand what the importer was saying, so how stupid must MAGA Guy be?
@@christopherobrien3441 I can't agree this particular MAGA guy was an idiot. He was uninformed and brainwashed, and the speed at which he realized that when confronted by facts is impressive. It's true that it's not hard to understand this from a non brainwashed perspective.
Great discussion, its important to have meaningful ones like this respectfully where everyone learns something.
I’m trying so hard to not feel defeated and hopeless, but it’s getting really hard.
Welcome to the club, been here since 2003.
Hang in there, you are NOT ALONE
Yep. Even if you can get them to understand tariffs.. you then have to educate on infrastructure! 🤦♂️
@@thomaslawson7689 the thing is a lot of us are, because the centrists are now moderate fascists and the democrats have given up the point on queer and women's rights, immigration and participation in various g3n0c1d3s. But it was always like this, the US was founded by plutocrats and is still run by them today.
@lordlemond1350 Much of our infrastructure is unnecessary.
I can't believe that ended so peacefully with the guy admitting he wasn't educated enough on the subject.
Trump's proposed tariffs are not intended to be permanent fixtures of U.S. trade policy but rather tools for negotiation. The idea is to use tariffs as leverage to compel trading partners to make concessions that benefit U.S. industries and address unfair trade practices. This strategy puts pressure on other nations to reduce barriers to U.S. exports, eliminate subsidies that disadvantage American companies, or agree to more equitable terms in trade agreements.
By implementing or threatening tariffs, the goal is to create a sense of urgency for other countries to come to the negotiating table. Once the desired agreements are reached, the tariffs can be reduced or removed, making them a temporary measure designed to shift the balance of trade in favor of the United States. This approach aims to secure long-term economic advantages without committing to long-term protectionist policies.
A good deal of MAGA folks are just idiots but not inhumane. They can be reasoned with. A lot but not all.
Yet he was so convinced he was right with what little information he possessed. 🤦🤦♂🤦♀
That, my dear friend, is called the *_Dunning-Kruger Effect:_*_ ‘Those who know the_ *least* _think they know the_ *most.’*
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_“What’s curious is that, in many cases, incompetence does not leave people disoriented, perplexed, or cautious. Instead, the incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge.”_ -Dr. David Dunning
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_“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed (21 Jan 1980)
And yet he voted for it.
@@TrumpSupremacistThat's called extortion
Thank you for debating these issues with people.. that is the only way to get informed.. we can't rely on billionaires who own all of the news outlets.
I guarantee this guy didn’t walk away from the conversation with more information. Trump supporters want to validate their existing position, they don’t actually care about the truth.
That is why most was against removing all the local companies and moving everything overseas. We don't mind paying more if it's local made.
I can't believe some of them still think the other country pays the tariff, i thought they swapped to "yeah we pay it but it's okay" already.
That was about the wall
“We’ll make them pay for it” 2.0
Can’t expect much from these lobotomy survivors
@@ebWhytt "China will be paying the tariffs the same way Mexico has paid for the wall. Stop expecting that yelling "AMERICA FIRST" will somehow persuade foreign governments to give us money." should be a straight forward and intuitive argument.
Even if the other country was paying the tariffs, they would just increase their prices to cover the costs.
@@MrWeiskog
Exactly! Anybody who has the ability to pass those tariffs along to somebody else is going to do it! They'd be a fool not to. The only people who can't pass the tariff along to somebody else are the end consumers
Blue hat guy! What an incredible human being. Calm, educated, polite. Everything maga is not. I'm so glad the other guy listened, I'm not sure he understood or took it all on board but hopefully some of that went in.
Probably British.
Moral of the story , bring American jobs back to America 🇺🇸 MAGA 🇺🇸
Pretty sure he's from South Africa based on the accent
This man instantly listened to the expert and was very interested. This is great and should be respected too!
He gets one small kudo for being polite and 10 "god help us's for refusing to understand.
I think it's good to acknowledge and recognise that. Often times people just get painted as dumb and that will just make them double down
except the man pulled a bait and switch, using the "cost" of the goods as the negative when increasing the cost is the entire point of the tariff in order to dissuade foreign businesses from controlling domestic products (which China is attempting to do with vehicles and food )
@@nathanielbass771 The interviewer asked who pays the tariffs and the discussion went from there
But seconds later he is avoiding the question. Who is paying?
Honestly I learned so much about tariffs from this video. And how much they do benefit the United States if we enforcer them on other countries. Thank you!
He probably still walked away, thinking he's not paying tariffs. This was a brilliant video. It should be played in every consumer's areas, where we buy any and all products !! Thank you for this.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Yep, exactly! Magats after the 2020 election were shown down to the micro level how votes are kept safe and for over an hour they were educated....they kinda mumbled they were wrong but when the interviewer caught up with them ten minutes later they were already back to to 'stolen election' BS.
Yes, magats think facts are something that takes "beliefs" into account. i.e. "I don't 'believe' in human-induced climate change."
Facts. He thinks he's going to get Canada good with 25% tarrif on that $100M of Florida Orange Juice Camadians buy. But the Canadian Consumer says we're not buying the high priced tariffed Florida Orange Juice & now Florida no longer supplies the Canada market who we all know doesn't grow Oranges. Canada will do without or buy elsewhere. Stupid for USA not to value that Canadian Orange Juice Market. But hey, we sell & produce 90% of the world's Potash, which the USA buys & needs. But now the USA is going to pay 25% more. They can choose not to & have no crops. But I can survive just fine without Orange Juice. Checkmate. The worst part is MAGA doesn't want to understand, they want to hear lies.
MAGA's & Rightwingers are always such a prime examples of the dunning kruger effect.
MAGAs
We don't have to purchase imports.
We do have to pay a fine for working.
Dunning Kruger is about overconfidence, not iliteralism about a topic.
Just trying to help here.
@@luisguillermoviruesdelgadi182 The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.
@@user-zu5do6ri6r WTF are you yammering about.
Walter's zoom in look at the camera when the importer steps in is so....*chefs kiss*
😂😂😂😂😂
You both got him, Walter! Thank you so much!!
You know what I really applaud is that man for graciously accepting the explanation at the end. He’s been fed garbage information on a complex topic, but he listened and in the end he was open. Great to see a constructive discussion.
Tariffs are not complicated. We all have smart phones. That’s what you call willful ignorance
I doubt that the information he received has changed his allegiance to Trump at all!😢
Yep. If we were all slightly less dismissive of other people and listened as well as that MAGA guy, we wouldn't have that kind of crowd being exploited by Trump.
I see the kind of behaviour on both sides, but even if one is probably better for the country than the other, we shouldn't be content to be on the right side through happenstance. We should seek out people we disagree with and try to understand them, with the full knowledge we might have it all wrong.
@@offthehookwithb-love4060 to be fair depending on your level of economic expertise you might not be able to use that information to see the statistical reality behind it.
And if you have to read about that then it's a non point since you can technically read up on almost anything.
@@NedInYaHeaddon’t both side this, not this one.
Apart from anything, it was so good that the coversation was just that - a conversation, without any hyperbole or agression
Exactly, everyone remained calm and Trump voter admitted to his mistake. I don't know why everyone is calling him braindead, uneducated or brainwashed. If he was, he wouldn't let go of his beliefs.
@@michalrola7017 he's far from being a fool, it takes intelligence to recognize when you might be wrong and not educated enough on the subject.
Refreshing video :)
@@michalrola7017 Well, he was uneducated…uneducated in how tariffs work and how they’ll actually impact costs of goods and the economy. And he was a classic example of so many MAGA supporters just believing what they’re told from their so called savior, rather than actually educating themselves from multiple sources and perspectives.
Thanks for the laugh!!! He probably went home and said he made a logical point to the youth!
@@russellschroeder3It’s hilarious watching people who have believed everything they are told hook line and sinker for years call out others for “believing everything they are told.” Lol
The tragedy of the internet is that it has empowered ignorant people to feel like they are intelligent about things they don’t understand
Either trump is very intelligent and knows how to manipulate stupid people. Or he is very dumb and dumber people believe he is intelligent.
Like you?
@@JoeJoe-hk7wl no, like you. Go on, explain tariffs you fetus. Pdfile
"offer people what they want and youll become the most powerful person in the world"
@@JoeJoe-hk7wl
How am I wrong? This clueless guy arguing about tariffs with a guy who knows about tariffs
Teach & Preach 💡
It's a beautiful thing when people with knowledge and experience help others. Thank you
I don't think he educated that man at all.......when it was explained to him, he was still trying to argue that tariffs made money for the country.
The man walked away with a lesson and yet didn't digest any of its information. My hat's off to the man who took the time out of his day to explain, but it was unfortunately ineffective. It was equivalent to teaching a brick wall.
Massive kudos to the guy for actually listening and realising that he wasn’t in possession of the information he needed to make an informed decision. If only we could all have more conversations like this where we listen to other points of view maybe we would be in this mess.
How much you wanna bet that he's still going around today calling for tariffs to even the playing field? You can't fix stupid.
@@MJ-we9vunot everyone is like you. In the video he didn’t walk away immediately and instead tried to understand the other sides viewpoint.
He never said he needed more information to make an informed decision. He only said he doesn't know that information. He did so to avoid admitting he was wrong. That is classic narcissism. It's not the humility people are making it out to be. He did that to protect his ego.
@ I don’t think that makes much of a difference in what he’s saying when he says he doesn’t have the knowledge to make an informed decision. He at least admits that, so I’d say he doesn’t have an ego and he took the time to understand someone else’s viewpoint.
@@anoobius3330 but he still didn't believe them, he especially said "I don't know what you're talking about so I won't argue with you" but that doesn't mean he changed his opinion to the factually accurate one
Wow that cameo was epic. This guy's approach is so on point, rather than quizzing and undermining people (which is so easy to do when they say dumb stuff) he did it in a way that didn't make the other guy feel too small.
In the USA, the number of uneducated people has reached a critical level. :(
Willfully uneducated. They are trained to disregard the truth. It’s extremely disappointing.
shoutout to my 9th grade history teacher / 12th grade sociology teacher for informing my class about tariffs bc somehow its not a basic thing we learn in every high school curriculum 😭😭😭
Kudos to the man on the street for digesting the information and trying to understand. That is what honest conversation looks like. That is what this country needs. Not "I don't understand your side of the argument, therefore I'm still right." Or "trump said it's a good thing, therefore it is." That goes for both sides of the aisle, in all scenarios.
The way the importer/exporter smiled when his kid starts to speak -- pure love and pride. I would too!
I learned this in middle school over 30 years ago, and we have this thing called the internet; the info has always been there.
Sometimes, the truth doesn't matter to some people if it doesn't entertain their ego.
I'm impressed with patience, though.