This Phone is Bad... Which Makes it Better?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 6 тис.

  • @RodolfoStanic
    @RodolfoStanic 15 днів тому +18301

    If it doesn't have a SIM card slot, it shouldn't be called a phone, but rather a phone-sized tablet.

    • @JustCallMeRichApologetics
      @JustCallMeRichApologetics 15 днів тому +516

      I think you can still get ESim

    • @johnb0815
      @johnb0815 15 днів тому +531

      true. is like saying my bicycle is a bad motorbike

    • @aineivan2002
      @aineivan2002 15 днів тому +716

      ​@@JustCallMeRichApologetics Bro thinks esim is an app 😂

    • @MarkHatlestad
      @MarkHatlestad 15 днів тому

      Nope, it has no cellular functionality ​@@JustCallMeRichApologetics

    • @sgallegos702
      @sgallegos702 15 днів тому +130

      Eink iPod touch

  • @cassie4824
    @cassie4824 15 днів тому +7749

    A sim card would be a game changer. Like if I can make calls and send texts I'm sold on it. I don't want all the other distractions just the ability to call in case of emergencies.

    • @RangeGleasry
      @RangeGleasry 15 днів тому +274

      That’s what I want as well

    • @YEAGERlST
      @YEAGERlST 15 днів тому +190

      Same, this would be perfect for me, just needs a sim card

    • @editorenbici
      @editorenbici 15 днів тому +25

      The Hibreak

    • @R_Stoelwinder
      @R_Stoelwinder 15 днів тому +33

      Give us this for

    • @thexchox1554
      @thexchox1554 15 днів тому +5

      Just said the same thing

  • @sandwiched
    @sandwiched 15 днів тому +6456

    Calling this a phone is a complete mis-representation of what it's meant to be, which is an e-ink e-reader that has Google Play Store access, and is in the form factor of a typical smartphone. It's not meant to replace ANYthing except another e-reader like a Kindle, Nook, etc.

    • @crispybottom
      @crispybottom 14 днів тому +119

      and tbh, it works really well as a small e-reader since people are mostly used to reading books on their phones

    • @stebansb
      @stebansb 14 днів тому +50

      yet it works as a phone, so you can have basic things like WhatsApp and Telegram.

    • @Raress96
      @Raress96 14 днів тому +61

      Yeah, it is more similar to the iPod than the iPhone

    • @mikem2k6
      @mikem2k6 14 днів тому +94

      @@stebansbfor me to call it a phone, it needs to have sim capabilities and be able to make and receive phone calls/sms natively, not over WiFi and third party apps like WA

    • @mattz8956
      @mattz8956 14 днів тому +20

      Tell that to the company. The website promotes this as "phone-like experience".

  • @jiasd123
    @jiasd123 13 днів тому +483

    Think we need to go back to "what is a phone" because this is not one. The first and only necessary requirement of a phone is that it needs to be able to make calls.

    • @Foojaleeckalikeelamaka
      @Foojaleeckalikeelamaka 12 днів тому +4

      It never claims to be a phone

    • @leonidas14775
      @leonidas14775 11 днів тому +5

      @@Foojaleeckalikeelamaka If its not supposed to resemble a phone, then why use a smartphone aspect ratio screen, when other ereaders have wider screens? Its easier on the eyes to not have to jump lines so often.

    • @oscarferrari308
      @oscarferrari308 11 днів тому +22

      @@Foojaleeckalikeelamakano but this video is literally titled as such

    • @Foojaleeckalikeelamaka
      @Foojaleeckalikeelamaka 11 днів тому +14

      @@oscarferrari308 I agree, the creator is incorrect. The manufacturer never makes that claim.

    • @Foojaleeckalikeelamaka
      @Foojaleeckalikeelamaka 11 днів тому

      @@leonidas14775
      Because people like the smartphone experience. You probably use yours for tons of things every day that aren't phone based & probably prefer to use your phone to do those things.
      I would buy this specifically because it's got the same footprint (handprint?) as a phone so it fits easily in my pocket or any of the phone pockets in my bags easily.

  • @vidIQ
    @vidIQ 15 днів тому +780

    Isn't this more a mini-tablet than a 'phone' since it has no cellular functionality?

    • @george89
      @george89 14 днів тому +22

      That's what the company says, yes.

    • @leeroymlg4692
      @leeroymlg4692 14 днів тому +33

      It's not a phone. It's a "book" that fits in your "palm". It's literally in the name Boox Palma

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie 14 днів тому +4

      Alot of people them as MP3 players also.

    • @MrMozkoZrout
      @MrMozkoZrout 14 днів тому +2

      yeah which is so weird. It's android based iPod touch with e-ink display. Which is kinda like why ? It's too small and impractical for full on e-book reader and it lacks the core functionality of a phone to be used as a phone replacement.

    • @DragonyCat
      @DragonyCat 13 днів тому +1

      @@leeroymlg4692 yeah we can all understand that, vidiq was using 'phone' especially since MKBHD's title has the word in there. Chill, lol.

  • @mikeperezdigital5568
    @mikeperezdigital5568 14 днів тому +479

    I think this is new category of low dopamine devices is great. It's really hard to go from your phone to reading a book by light in the bed. You still want a little something extra (podcasts, audible books, etc.) without getting sucked into social media or having to yell at your smart speaker.

    • @poorchef1895
      @poorchef1895 14 днів тому +14

      I am literally having trouble reading books that I bought myself, only because how I am addicted to my smartphone 😢

    • @emuccino
      @emuccino 14 днів тому +5

      That can be accomplished with software, doesn't require new devices

    • @Valorous1440
      @Valorous1440 14 днів тому +1

      @@poorchef1895 Might I suggest The Storied Life of A.J. Fikry? IMO it's a nicely paced, funny, thoughtful book and as someone that sometimes slogs through stuff I don't love, this book makes reading something to look forward to!

    • @38kob
      @38kob 14 днів тому +5

      lol learn to love reading actual books too though, that’s the real “disconnect device.” physical books are healing

    • @lucass8119
      @lucass8119 13 днів тому

      @@emuccino Nope, because the potential is still there. Hiding heroin doesn't work if you know where the heroin is - you'll just undo whatever you used to hide it, and get to it. Software doesn't work here because you can just undo whatever locks or timers or display settings you have.

  • @Drunut
    @Drunut 14 днів тому +230

    This was never marketed as a phone. It has neither a SIM card nor e-SIM capability. It's an e-reader with a phone form factor and Google Play Store so that you can install your preferred e-reader app(s) instead of being forced to use some proprietary reader. It also has some nice QoL features built into software that helps with Android app usage (per-app screen refresh rates and scrolling with the volume buttons/dot, especially).
    I really like the device for reading on the go. It's not bulky like a kindle and fits easily into my pocket while still being a readable size. Reaching for it at bedtime is still dangerous since I can find myself reading until 3am, but it's better than reaching for my phone and doomscrolling or messaging people. MKBHD did eventually land on its intended use at 7:26 as a secondary device for reading.

    • @sanchoturco
      @sanchoturco 13 днів тому +2

      I mean there are Android smartphones with e-ink screens. I only know about Hisense A5 , but there are more. If someone really wanted to replace your daily phone , they could consider those.

    • @WyvernDotRed
      @WyvernDotRed 11 днів тому

      @@sanchoturco unfortunately the actual phones with e-ink and a SIM slot are Hisense's offerings.
      I've personally taken the gamble of daily-driving a Hisense A5 CC Pro Color, which has been great for me for the past few months.
      But it takes some side-loading work to set up the Chinese software to work well for day-to-day use.
      It's possible and results in a great dedicated communications and reading device.
      But the Chinese Android does stay iffy, even if most of the pre-installed apps can be disabled for a surprisingly clean experience.
      And stating the obvious, the alternatives like the Boox Palma are small tablets, not phones.
      Ironic how phones are getting treated as glorified tablets now, whereas I keep that function separate and use my Steam Deck as an actual tablet.

  • @ryancherry1017
    @ryancherry1017 8 днів тому +17

    I will wait for the SIM version (which I hope is inevitable). It has all of the features of a smartphone I want, but without the addictive display.
    With a SIM card tray, I could use it for navigation, to call ride shares, multi-factor authentication, texting, e-reading, music/podcasts, Slack for work, etc... but without the allure of Instagram, tiktok, youtube, etc...

    • @Beastw1ck
      @Beastw1ck День тому +2

      This is all I want.

  • @Notsram77
    @Notsram77 15 днів тому +1152

    The title of this video: "This phone is bad."
    Maybe I'm wrong, but it's not a phone?

    • @MrChidoK
      @MrChidoK 15 днів тому +80

      It's not a phone at all, it's an e-reader.

    • @Stevo.100
      @Stevo.100 14 днів тому +9

      @@MrChidoK I'll just stick to the e reader I have with my GBA thank you very much.

    • @hahanamegobrrr6667
      @hahanamegobrrr6667 14 днів тому +29

      But it's shaped like a phone. Has a form factor of a phone. So it's a phone
      It's like if you take a piece of ham, and you shape it into a sausage, people will say it's a sausage. Even though it's a piece of ham, it's shaped like a sausage, so it's a sausage, even if it's not a sausage, but instead a piece of ham. But it's shaped like a sausage. People see it as a sausage, so it's a sausage, even though it's actually a piece of ham, it's a sausage. Even if you know they're wrong for calling it a sausage because it's a piece of ham, but it looks like a sausage, and it's shaped like a sausage, it's a sausage

    • @2WhiteAndNerdy
      @2WhiteAndNerdy 14 днів тому +2

      He was saying it has the internals of a typical phone.

    • @mattz8956
      @mattz8956 14 днів тому +4

      The company is promoting this as a "Phone-like experience". It's just marketing. More people will buy a new "phone" over a new e-reader

  • @NewSchattenRayquaza
    @NewSchattenRayquaza 15 днів тому +2544

    I'd love this thing but no SIM card tray kills it. Its a Phone without the Phone

    • @VariaPrime
      @VariaPrime 15 днів тому +22

      Check out the Light Phone II or the Sunbeam F1 Pro/Horizon

    • @JosephWithaG
      @JosephWithaG 15 днів тому +3

      Oh yeah! The

    • @gxgxn.
      @gxgxn. 15 днів тому +18

      He mentioned Hisense A9 that has the SIM card option

    • @shavitvb
      @shavitvb 15 днів тому +40

      Its not a phone its an e-reader shaped like a phone and the big plus is that its run android, so if you looking for a phone this is not the device you looking for and if you looking for a vary portable e-reader that have the google store this is one of the best there is.

    • @AndreVictorGoncalves
      @AndreVictorGoncalves 15 днів тому +3

      Hisense a9 if you want a phone

  • @vishwa2420
    @vishwa2420 14 днів тому +159

    0:10 the channel has been cooking with the intros🔥🔥 the editors definitely deserve a raise😊🔥

    • @Roach420
      @Roach420 14 днів тому +3

      Uhhhh... its fade away if you're wondering *(sorta)

    • @jerguskrc
      @jerguskrc 14 днів тому +3

      ​@@Roach420 Deja Vu*

    • @TheWild_Escape
      @TheWild_Escape 4 дні тому

      I said dam

  • @GiuseppeTripodi
    @GiuseppeTripodi 7 днів тому +2

    I reviewed and have one. I agree with you (and I don't use it daily either), but IMHO you're missing one point: how useful it is to have an ebook reader that small.
    In the summer, when you're not wearing big jackets or anything big enough to keep a Kindle in, an ereader that comfortably feets in any pocket is a blessing, if you're into reading outside, on the bus, etc.

  • @MementoVivere.
    @MementoVivere. 14 днів тому +781

    I have a Kobo ereader and am in that tech space - I have NEVER heard of the Boox Palma being referred to as a phone. It is revered by many in the ereader space but anyone judging this to the standard of a phone is outlandish. It's like saying a sink is a bad dishwasher - like there are different functions.

    • @tormaid42
      @tormaid42 14 днів тому +18

      It’s more like saying a large screen without a tv tuner isn’t technically a television. Most people don’t use their smartphones to make calls or send sms messages the vast majority of the time, so there is more overlap here than not.

    • @boredparticle0444
      @boredparticle0444 14 днів тому +2

      Aren't sink and dishwasher same thing?

    • @misterdrgn5155
      @misterdrgn5155 14 днів тому +8

      @@tormaid42 If they aren't doing those things, they're using social media, which also depends on a connection.

    • @Global_Dawah1
      @Global_Dawah1 14 днів тому

      @@tormaid42 uhhhh most people *do* use their smartphones for calls and messages not specifically sms , thats more for receiving ; maybe you belong to the loud minority that don't but anyone over the age of 20 , do use it for those purposes

    • @JamieSmith
      @JamieSmith 14 днів тому +1

      ha good metaphor. i may use that for work at some point.

  • @koms313
    @koms313 14 днів тому +47

    This is an e-reader for those who like to read books. The idea of it is basically to be able to read books from different sellers easily. Use whatever an reader app you want. It is not meant as a low distraction device. Just an e-reader with Android flexibility. The size of this one is for convenience. I have another 8" e-reader from the same company.

  • @The_Capalbo
    @The_Capalbo 14 днів тому +344

    “Zero distraction music player” ….god I’m old because I instantly said “so a mp3 player” 4:40

    • @glimmerz3464
      @glimmerz3464 14 днів тому +8

      At least u didn’t say walkmen 😂

    • @ruhtam8971
      @ruhtam8971 14 днів тому +14

      @@glimmerz3464 walkman duh 🙄

    •  14 днів тому +8

      I grew up in the 70's. Mp3 players are still new. You're not old, kid.

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 13 днів тому

      PijnigeR Ray, alright kid

    • @dragnar4743
      @dragnar4743 11 днів тому

      marketing: "zero distraction music player"
      me: "yeah, I know, it's a walkman. huh? so, it's not a portable mp3 player?"
      marketing: 😅😅 "yeah, same thing but additionally you can also download apps on it"
      me: "so, it's a smartphone?"
      marketing: "na, it's a e-reader with multiple purpose"
      me: 😑😑"You guys are confusing me, even more"

  • @CarmellasJewelry
    @CarmellasJewelry 12 днів тому +4

    Yes!! So excited you talked about my favorite device! I use it to supplement my phone, and I’ve also been using it as a distraction light writing device with a paired Bluetooth keyboard. I love this thing!

  • @ObieCuevas
    @ObieCuevas 14 днів тому +349

    I’m usually agreeing with Marques but I feel like he missed it on this one. It’s just a “phone-like” e-paper device that boox avoids calling it a dedicated e-reader because it can do a lot, except make cellular phone calls.

    • @darnarxz
      @darnarxz 14 днів тому +11

      isn't that what he explained in the video??

    • @clb92
      @clb92 14 днів тому +38

      ​@@darnarxz Instead of saying it's a small pocket-friendly ebook reader he presented it as a bad alternative to a smartphone, something it was never trying to be.

    • @dylankelner2856
      @dylankelner2856 13 днів тому +9

      Yeah, this is clickbaity and just a dumb and long-winded way to explain what it is. Only starts to get it right in the last two minutes of the video lol.

    • @debhan
      @debhan 11 днів тому +2

      Yep. for me it's the form factor, the e-ink, and the fact that I can read ALL of my stuff - Kindle, PDF, news sites, reddit, Readwise Reader without jumping through hoops.

  • @Inthesar
    @Inthesar 15 днів тому +680

    One of the nicest YT video intro i have ever seen

    • @Garrettdx1988
      @Garrettdx1988 14 днів тому

      What's one of the worst you've ever seen?

    • @NoExpertHere
      @NoExpertHere 14 днів тому

      Agreed.

    • @every_eve
      @every_eve 14 днів тому +11

      With the logic song too 🔥🔥

    • @naksan656
      @naksan656 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@Garrettdx1988yt rewind

    • @patriayvida69
      @patriayvida69 12 днів тому

      Kunno's songs ​@@Garrettdx1988

  • @dannymartial7997
    @dannymartial7997 14 днів тому +62

    Something about the all-white display with no black borders makes it look super futuristic. I wish OLED displays where that seamless looking.

    • @debhan
      @debhan 11 днів тому +2

      Even those crazy-wide bezels seem kind of cool 😀

  • @jonalee5262
    @jonalee5262 3 дні тому +3

    I like how it's trying to balance the two extremities between a distracting, but overpowered smartphone, and a focused, but simple Ebook Reader. I think this will eventually catch on, they just have to figure out the sweet spot in the middle that a majority people would like from both a smartphone and Ebook Reader.

  • @oat4976
    @oat4976 15 днів тому +244

    Palma never claim to be a smart phone or even a "phone". It just an e-reader in the form factor of a phone. When you review in the perspective of a phone, it's going to be a bad one.

    • @sciencepro8902
      @sciencepro8902 14 днів тому +7

      An e-reader that can play music, watch videos and more, but can't let you read without WiFi because there's no SIM card slot! No I will pass 🙏

    • @Hailz01Gamming
      @Hailz01Gamming 14 днів тому

      EXACTLY

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie 14 днів тому

      @@sciencepro8902you know you can download books right

    • @shiota79
      @shiota79 13 днів тому +7

      @@sciencepro8902 this wasn't being marketed to you to begin with 🤦‍♂

    • @dylankelner2856
      @dylankelner2856 13 днів тому

      ​@sciencepro8902 yeah such a fail having no cellular even just for data

  • @lucasmontec
    @lucasmontec 14 днів тому +85

    Also..... this could be literally the BEST device EVER for a smart home remote. Long battery life, low energy display... android... sounds ridiculously perfect.

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude 13 днів тому

      .... _Runs to check if HomeAssistant and those weird little 3.5mm IR blasters would work_

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress 10 днів тому +2

      Also, since it works in sunlight, if you need to do something from your backyard, it works there too.

  • @3U9ENE
    @3U9ENE 14 днів тому +111

    I kept waiting for a twist that never came because I don’t understand why the video is calling it a phone when it literally isn’t one. It’s a pocket size e-reader. That’s what they're marketing it as.

  • @Holycryptonite47
    @Holycryptonite47 13 днів тому +7

    At this point of time its better to practice self restraint than to actually buy some expensive yet cheaply made consumer product.

  • @OlivioSarikas
    @OlivioSarikas 15 днів тому +1060

    There is no sim-card tray - So what you are telling me is that is this a very overpriced e-ink tablet....

    • @pierrex3226
      @pierrex3226 15 днів тому +63

      No it's worse than that, because the screen is so small/ narrow it's not meant to read books on.

    • @kathycannon2830
      @kathycannon2830 15 днів тому +22

      It's actually not super expensive from that perspective. Besides being ebook readers, Eink tablets are also meant to be writing/notetaking/drawing devices which is why they tend to have a higher price point. The Palma isn't really geared towards those things. It's really only expensive compared to dedicated readers like the kindle.

    • @squirtle4519
      @squirtle4519 15 днів тому +35

      Actually that screen size is really popular for ebook in east Asia.

    • @OlivioSarikas
      @OlivioSarikas 15 днів тому

      @@kathycannon2830 it's twice the price of a much larger Kindle Paperwhite

    • @renofumi28
      @renofumi28 15 днів тому +12

      Bro really think e-ink display are cheaper than regular IPS/AMOLED display.

  • @NateVolker
    @NateVolker 15 днів тому +347

    I just want a proper e-paper smartwatch. Like a “leave your phone at home and go for a run, still can make calls and listen to spotify, always-on display, and really long battery life” smartwatch.

    • @editorenbici
      @editorenbici 15 днів тому +57

      With ePaper was Pebble years ago

    • @equaco
      @equaco 15 днів тому +3

      That would be sweet

    • @LCCH.cecilia
      @LCCH.cecilia 15 днів тому +4

      I kinda want to do that with an apple watch and not use my phone during the day 🤔

    • @AndriiVozniak
      @AndriiVozniak 15 днів тому +12

      Pebble :)

    • @andrewwalker3707
      @andrewwalker3707 15 днів тому +2

      fossil hr hybrid series is a smartwatch with e-ink and analog hands that rotate out of the way so you can read the display. It lacks on-device music and GPS, but it is a e-paper smartwatch in all other respects.

  • @adambirkholtz2062
    @adambirkholtz2062 15 днів тому +98

    I bought this for my Mom's birthday recently. It is a solid e-reader that has replaced her old, breaking-down Kindle Fire. She loves it!

    • @adambirkholtz2062
      @adambirkholtz2062 15 днів тому

      @@0matters The Boox Palma in the video.

    • @SimonAZ
      @SimonAZ 14 днів тому +1

      Why? It has a small screen for reading books.

    • @adambirkholtz2062
      @adambirkholtz2062 14 днів тому +8

      @@SimonAZ Seems to work out perfectly for my Mom. A smaller device is also much lighter in her hands.

    • @leonidas14775
      @leonidas14775 11 днів тому

      @@SimonAZ Boox also makes a similar product with a 7 inch 3:2 screen.

  • @JitendraKumar-ng1xi
    @JitendraKumar-ng1xi 4 дні тому +1

    I’m gonna watch no other tech videos on iphone 16/16 pro till mkbhd drops one

  • @JerryPalmerino
    @JerryPalmerino 14 днів тому +9

    I’ve been a Boox user for two years. I use the Onyx Boox Note Air 2 for everything from taking meeting notes to reading books (pdf, Kindle,etc).

  • @EmmaMoshood-qb8tt
    @EmmaMoshood-qb8tt 15 днів тому +58

    2:52 I totally get it

    • @foednigel7443
      @foednigel7443 14 днів тому +1

      yep i like the idea

    • @EarlsPearls
      @EarlsPearls 14 днів тому

      If it had a sim to call and text I'd be interested but with this I still need to carry my phone.

    • @onjiponj
      @onjiponj 14 днів тому

      2:54 I don’t

  • @swataversius
    @swataversius 15 днів тому +379

    Why no SIM card? Is phone without cellular connection even a phone? Seems to be the main drawback and quite weird

    • @jackjack3358
      @jackjack3358 15 днів тому +34

      Yeah exactly, why would I buy a "phone" that cannot do the most basic functionality of a phone? Just add SIM feature so it would at least make more sense to have this.

    • @jayjadwani5705
      @jayjadwani5705 15 днів тому +2

      True. I rather use my Kindle then.

    • @madman7991
      @madman7991 15 днів тому +88

      Its marketed as a pocket ereader not really as a phone, tech youtubers have been trying to push it as a phone. there are other readers out there that do use Data and cellular connections that is an actual phone phone. Dont get confused with this one is all :)

    • @thewowleader
      @thewowleader 15 днів тому

      Such as? ​@@madman7991

    • @jackjack3358
      @jackjack3358 15 днів тому

      @@madman7991 They literally market it as phone-sized mobile ePaper :) They are clearly trying make it look and sound like a mobile phone by dropping the keywords even though they don't say it's phone explicitly. What is mobile ePaper even? All eReaders are mobile because you can carry them around. Very weird concept to call something mobile ePaper and phone-sized without it not being phone.
      Putting a SIM to this device would bring them a great benefit.

  • @edwinschaap5532
    @edwinschaap5532 10 днів тому +3

    7:05 NO! 🤣👍

  • @wikim00
    @wikim00 13 днів тому +42

    iPhone reviewer doesn’t realize he’s using an ereader

    • @Inspiritix
      @Inspiritix 4 дні тому

      😂

    • @raktimsaikia1476
      @raktimsaikia1476 4 дні тому +1

      It's basically an iPhone with a black and white display

    • @sloppygoo
      @sloppygoo 3 дні тому +1

      Yeah like it’s literally called “books” poor company tried to make it as obvious as possible

  • @andrearusky
    @andrearusky 14 днів тому +28

    "This Phone is Bad... Which Makes it Better?" I'm sorry but it doesn't have a SIM card, how can you call it a phone?

    • @meekschannel2785
      @meekschannel2785 14 днів тому

      But it may have eSim

    • @clb92
      @clb92 14 днів тому +1

      @@meekschannel2785 It does not. It does not have any cellular modem.

  • @hebdriz9120
    @hebdriz9120 14 днів тому +6

    I literally love my palma -- i basically only read my kindle books with audible at the same time (NO kindle does that, even the very expensive Kindle Scribe), browse reddit texts subs like askreddit, and read news articles. I hate reading on my iphone/ipad and the palma makes reading fun and conveenient again.

  • @vulpo
    @vulpo 10 днів тому +1

    A big advantage of the E-Ink display is that it is clearly readable in bright sunlight. This (along with long battery life) would be especially advantageous for outdoor activity such as navigating (while hiking or biking) via GPS. Unfortunately the Boox Palma doesn't have GPS. However, the Hisense A9 Pro does.

  • @HoodedSpidey
    @HoodedSpidey 15 днів тому +242

    An E-paper phone is exactly what I’ve been looking for, actually.

    • @Roshan_420
      @Roshan_420 15 днів тому

      Check out the light phone 3

    • @jocen3
      @jocen3 15 днів тому +3

      why?

    • @JannesDragon
      @JannesDragon 15 днів тому +27

      @@jocen3 much better battery life. If you don't need a high refresh rate for videos or anything like that, it's perfect

    • @B-RaDD
      @B-RaDD 15 днів тому +7

      I'm looking into Minimalist phone here in a couple months hopefully but I would rather have Boox make this a phone I'd buy it today

    • @johnb0815
      @johnb0815 15 днів тому +30

      except it's not a phone. no sim card

  • @____Itachi
    @____Itachi 14 днів тому +7

    The guy who makes your intros....need a raise 😂😂. Like they are just getting better amd better

  • @bush2137
    @bush2137 15 днів тому +105

    0:20 it's not a phone, it doesn't have a sim slot. It's technically a tablet

    • @seeleydargo
      @seeleydargo 15 днів тому +5

      Thank you. That's what I thought as well. 3:17

    • @Orion33759
      @Orion33759 15 днів тому +11

      iPod touch didn’t have a sim slot, would you consider that a tablet?

    • @whothou
      @whothou 15 днів тому +4

      i don't think you know what a tablet is... You can really only call it a "smart device" it isn't a phone or a tablet.

    • @Orion33759
      @Orion33759 15 днів тому

      @@whothou bingo

    • @Orion33759
      @Orion33759 15 днів тому

      @@seeleydargo you thought wrong

  • @SteffDev
    @SteffDev 12 днів тому +1

    Since I am a light user, and love the power of flagship devices and like to have that longer battery life,
    I wonder if it would be possible for companies who make modern smartphones to make an option for users to buy the same phone, but with the E-Ink display

  • @syneresis
    @syneresis 15 днів тому +27

    i bought this just for reading online novels and epubs cause i do that all the time. so much more discreet to bring compared to the size of the kindle. it totally helped me sleep better and have less headaches. i love mine.

    • @george89
      @george89 14 днів тому +3

      Dito. And it's the only way for me to read with a starting migraine attack.

  • @shawntoadally
    @shawntoadally 14 днів тому +98

    This is EXACTLY what I want. With one obvious exception. The phone. If I could use this for texting and calls, it would be absolutely fucking perfect! I don't use my phone for watching videos, playing games, etc. I use it to text, do google searches, read news, etc. And I carry a kindle around, because reading books on a lit display sucks - for various reasons.
    BOOX, please, please, PLEASE add a sim tray to this thing!

    • @cytheh
      @cytheh 14 днів тому +5

      The hisense a9 he mentioned towards the end of the video is exactly this device you described.

    • @KeeseToast
      @KeeseToast 14 днів тому

      You should take a look at the Bigme Hibreak or some of the Hisense Eink Smartphones.

    • @EvenFive
      @EvenFive 14 днів тому

      @@cytheh bet you $20 @shawntoadally doesn't buy it.

    • @chrisfeo7924
      @chrisfeo7924 14 днів тому +1

      dude - you can use an esim!

    • @Guyallknowing
      @Guyallknowing 14 днів тому

      lite phone

  • @One-mon
    @One-mon 14 днів тому +8

    i am so happy people are starting to recognize android e-ink devices they are really amazing.

  • @goldenstarmusic1689
    @goldenstarmusic1689 5 днів тому

    I gotta say, as a HUGE fan of Ultra 85, hearing Deja Vu and the instrumentals across this album in this video totally caught me off guard. It's awesome!

  • @GreenArt4
    @GreenArt4 15 днів тому +167

    I was on board until you said no SIM/Cellular. That's the whole point of a phone!

    • @madman7991
      @madman7991 15 днів тому +5

      There are others out there that have sim capability, but its an ereader that runs android and lets you use whatever your favourite app is. So people are marketing this as a phone when its not, you know? like marketing an electric bicycle as a motorbike, like technically yes but no you know?

    • @matta8508
      @matta8508 15 днів тому

      Other than the tech youtubers going for your clicks, I don't see many people marketing it as phone... Boox themselves sell it as a "phone sized" or "pocketable" eink device and most tech websites that reviewed it straight called it an ereader.

    • @AndreVictorGoncalves
      @AndreVictorGoncalves 15 днів тому +7

      Hisense a9 for you then

    • @GT-tj1qg
      @GT-tj1qg 14 днів тому +9

      But it's not a phone

    • @ecguy6
      @ecguy6 14 днів тому +1

      Minimal phone company. It's an E ink phone with a full keyboard.
      Edit: I'm talking about a different product by a company named "minimal", it's an E ink phone with all the functions of a phone and has a physical keyboard as well.

  • @jubrecki
    @jubrecki 15 днів тому +95

    Love the pencil intro ✏️

  • @mothological
    @mothological 15 днів тому +61

    I probably would have bought one of these by now, if it only had a sim card tray. That's just something I need from a phone.

    • @AndreVictorGoncalves
      @AndreVictorGoncalves 15 днів тому +2

      Hisense a9 for you then

    • @A-ii5dp
      @A-ii5dp 14 днів тому +5

      Good thing its not a phone then. Its litearlly just an e-reader which can fit in your pocket. Its not sold as a phone, or marketed as a phone. The only people calling a phone are youtubers who want clicks.

    • @DrTheRich
      @DrTheRich 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@AndreVictorGoncalves discontinued, also only sold in Asia... So no

    • @AndreVictorGoncalves
      @AndreVictorGoncalves 14 днів тому

      @@DrTheRich Bigme X for you then

  • @EsyWriter
    @EsyWriter 12 днів тому

    That INTRO is insane! Shoutout your colleague who led production on that. His/her name needs to be known!

  • @M-.-J
    @M-.-J 15 днів тому +7

    Just finished a AutoFocus video and here I am 8 minutes later...keep these videos pumping!!!!

  • @Drarjunmenon
    @Drarjunmenon 15 днів тому +22

    *_Marques, you have to give a raise to your editing team, especially the intro guy. This stuff is what legends are made of!_* 🔥🔥🔥

  • @nooster125
    @nooster125 15 днів тому +43

    2:25 there is no sim card tray so no cellular connection soooo how is it able to call? And if it doesnt make calls how is it a PHONE?!

    • @irfanm5892
      @irfanm5892 14 днів тому

      Who even calls now

    • @nightcoreasap947
      @nightcoreasap947 14 днів тому

      E sim.

    • @icipher12
      @icipher12 14 днів тому +1

      @@nightcoreasap947 you won't have an e-sim on a device that doesn't have cellular connectivity - like this one. it isn't a phone

    • @yassinesafraoui
      @yassinesafraoui 14 днів тому

      Same thoughts !! How is it even a phone then?!

    • @henryriesner6595
      @henryriesner6595 12 днів тому

      Tbh nobody thinks of a phone as a calling device now, even though that is pretty much what “phone” means, now, nobody uses that term to consider something a phone

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 7 днів тому +1

    That thing might (except the inability to be used as a phone) be the perfect device for me, as I mostly view my school's timetable on my phone and do a little bit of internet research (over WiFi as I don't wanna pay extra for data roaming).

  • @HarnaiDigital
    @HarnaiDigital 15 днів тому +4

    THESE intros never cease to amaze me 🎉 Blown away as a Product photographer.

  • @dvn.s_0069
    @dvn.s_0069 14 днів тому +4

    These intros recently are insane. You have a very very talented team over there.

  • @fus3n
    @fus3n 15 днів тому +11

    5:59 the resolution just shifted here

    • @akajayjay1
      @akajayjay1 14 днів тому +1

      Yeah, bitrate just dipped dramatically

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress 10 днів тому

    I have a close relative of this in one of Boox’s color tablets. I don’t use it too often, but it is nice every now and then.

  • @Spaniard47
    @Spaniard47 14 днів тому +7

    I won't be buying this device, but I have an eerily strong sense that I and probably many others will own one of its inspired descendants someday soon.

  • @armanshoraka4569
    @armanshoraka4569 14 днів тому +21

    If it had SIM functionality, I would ABSOLUTELY line up for it. I would love an e-ink phone. Great battery, low distraction, all the real functions of a phone.

    • @daniele5976
      @daniele5976 14 днів тому

      You will find that eink devices are funny and you will spend the same tons of time on it.

    • @code54crunchy50
      @code54crunchy50 14 днів тому

      @@daniele5976at least it’s easier on your eyes

    • @jojoyoutube-d8g
      @jojoyoutube-d8g 14 днів тому +1

      you can try hisense A9

  • @mikixd7956
    @mikixd7956 15 днів тому +26

    Starting the video with logic 10/10 🔥

  • @doq
    @doq 9 днів тому

    I have one of these. It replaced my iPod as a dedicated music player. Which is very odd without a headphone jack, but I've been Bluetooth for years so it wasn't an issue for me.

  • @M-.-J
    @M-.-J 15 днів тому +12

    The smooth transition of the sketch to the scene with the beat on point..Man this might be one of the best intros on the channel!!🔥🔥

  • @07navneet
    @07navneet 15 днів тому +21

    4:47 shots fired at rabbit R1 😅

  • @livingrickroll1576
    @livingrickroll1576 15 днів тому +9

    That intro with the ink background slowly becoming 3D was phenomenal. I think these devices work work mostly for people who don’t need a smartphone, which isn’t many but it is an option that exists and I’m glad but I think it needs a little more refining for now till it works for more.

  • @Souchirouu
    @Souchirouu 7 днів тому +1

    Honestly, when my current phone breaks something along the lines of the Hisense A9 would be a serious consideration. I don't play games on my phone, I rarely watch video and 99% of the video's I do watch are informative in nature not entertainment. I do think e-ink has ways to go. 90~144 Hz refresh rate just feels so good.

  • @karl0nat0r50
    @karl0nat0r50 14 днів тому +7

    0:20 omfg the intro goes so hardd

  • @Rahul.001
    @Rahul.001 14 днів тому +49

    0:40 oh I'm definitely in

    • @Rahul.001
      @Rahul.001 14 днів тому +4

      @@JoshuaLindsey92 There should have been a sim card option though. What do you say?

    • @vandogtrailer6701
      @vandogtrailer6701 14 днів тому +2

      Me too! Now that MB has profiled it, I better go ahead and grab it before it sells out.

    • @matthewhumcke3182
      @matthewhumcke3182 14 днів тому +1

      lol

    • @Raboon16283
      @Raboon16283 11 днів тому

      Is it cause you make them in the sweatshop?

    • @azmedz
      @azmedz 8 днів тому +1

      I know I’m in, I have a galaxy S2 four and an iPhone 13 and I would totally swap out the iPhone for that

  • @lime3863
    @lime3863 15 днів тому +88

    Why not review Hisense or Bigme which are an actual E ink smartphone. Seems like a weird review

    • @EwenMackenzie
      @EwenMackenzie 14 днів тому +2

      Bigme (color version) is going to be the first phone for my kiddo, it's perfect

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 14 днів тому +4

      If you watched the video - you'd have your answer around 08:15 onwards.

    • @gcbryan89
      @gcbryan89 14 днів тому +3

      ​@@fablewallsyea, but it's a stupid reason honestly. If we want to talk about a e-reader phone, the hisense works. If distractions are an issue, you can always NOT install anything other than the basic apps instead of taking an e-reader and talking about it like it's a phone.

    • @adlerz5433
      @adlerz5433 14 днів тому

      I don’t understand either it’s like it doesn’t exist as an option in the US hisense phones are literally cheaper as well like the A5 or flagship A9

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 14 днів тому +1

      @@gcbryan89 I'm not disagreeing with you. MKBHD explains in the video that this phone has become incredibly popular and represents the e-reader phone more than the other two everyone wants him to talk about.

  • @amadeotrevino6690
    @amadeotrevino6690 11 днів тому

    What I have done to fully eliminate my screentime is to gradually downgrade the iPhone SE I already used. It is a simple set up: Screen is set to greyscale, installed a minimalist launcher (Blank) and, most crucially, deleted every app that I did not consider a useful or necessary tool, so no social media, only one messaging app, and even no browser. It has worked for me so far but when my iPhone inevitably succumbs to programmed obsolecense I might consider a device like this one.

  • @bravespleen
    @bravespleen 14 днів тому +30

    I have this device. If you enjoy reading books and want to avoid endless doom scrolling while waiting at the dentists, commuting on subway or bus etc… you can read your book in an ereader that fits into a pocket and is a joy to use. Turning pages with one hand by using volume rockers while carrying a bag or holding onto a pole on a bus with your other hand. Having kindle, kobo, pocket, and all reading ecosystems available on one small device with a beautifully sharp e-paper display. Of course I have a smart phone as well but this is just with me in another pocket.

    • @cube2fox
      @cube2fox 14 днів тому +4

      It can hardly cure scrolling addiction if you need a separate smartphone. You will just scroll on your smartphone instead of on your E Ink device.

    • @bravespleen
      @bravespleen 14 днів тому

      @@cube2fox it’s more a question of killing time. I think many people choose to glance at their phone and endlessly scroll while waiting for a boarding announcement, bus ride, pick up the kids etc. this simply provides a better option to pick up where you left off on your current book using a ereader which is pocket sized.

    • @Jiffiemom
      @Jiffiemom 14 днів тому +1

      Thank you!! I have one and this is exactly why I bought it! I already have 2 Kindles and a Kobo Libra Color but I got this for its small form and portability. It’s great for on the go reading!! And I love having my Kindle, Libby, Hoopla, etc. apps on one device. I only use it for reading. 😀

    • @ceilingfan1177
      @ceilingfan1177 14 днів тому

      Does this run Reddit or Twitter or other primarily-text dependent social media apps? If so, how would the e-ink display prevent me from getting distracted through these apps?

    • @bravespleen
      @bravespleen 14 днів тому

      @@ceilingfan1177 yes, even Facebook, UA-cam etc. but the choice is yours if you want a distraction free device. This is not a smartphone so since you already have one of those, there I no need to set it up the same way. I have Libby, and various newspaper apps on mine along with kindle, kobo, Koreader etc… the micro sd card I added is filled with music/podcasts. Do as you please.

  • @marchhare
    @marchhare 14 днів тому +42

    As a parent of a 9 year old, I keep waiting for something sorta like this to be in a good sweet spot for my son. Something that can call/text me when he's ready to be picked up from practice or something, maybe it lets him stream Spotify music, but isn't too distracting.

    • @chrisfeo7924
      @chrisfeo7924 14 днів тому +6

      but imagine his friends playing games, like all kids do nowadays, and your son with this phone which is cool but probably not for his age.... I get that its the sweet spot of safe

    • @salmiakki5638
      @salmiakki5638 14 днів тому +5

      a *wifi+cellular smartwatch is* what you are looking for. he can do everything he needs it for and nothing he doesn't need it. you can locate him, you can talk and text to each other, he can whatsapp, he can pay, use google maps, even listen to podcasts/spotify/ internet radios.
      I'm using a Galaxy watch 6 every other day as a smartphone replacement and it's perferct for it

    • @rewer
      @rewer 14 днів тому

      Just buy him a cheap android phone

    • @WildVoltorb
      @WildVoltorb 14 днів тому

      I would hate to be your son, c'mon

    • @walkinmn
      @walkinmn 14 днів тому

      Sounds like you need an android phone and a bunch of parental controls

  • @zemborato
    @zemborato 14 днів тому +22

    Objectively, my bike is a bad skateboard. WTF, Marques?

  • @kcbm225
    @kcbm225 8 днів тому

    I LOVE THE CONCEPT! But big downside indeed is no sim card, yes there are calls to make, but also mobile data for internet

  • @GFourGadget
    @GFourGadget 14 днів тому +23

    This is the dumbest smartphone, and also the smartest dumbphone at the same time.

  • @JavedMohamed
    @JavedMohamed 15 днів тому +12

    Your intros are world class. Even better than the marketing material of the actual phone manufacturers themselves - yep even better than Apple's intros.

  • @ashtronaut9
    @ashtronaut9 15 днів тому +24

    The title and a lot of this video frustrate me. This is not a phone and is not intended to be one. If you want an e-paper smartphone, look at Hisense. If you want an e-paper dumbphone, look at the Light Phone II. This device is not meant to be a phone or replace it. Boox has the exact same feature set across all of their e-paper devices. They all run Android instead of being locked into one system or format. Saying this is a bad phone is incredibly misleading and flat-out wrong because it isn't a phone. I like MKBHD videos, but the way this one is set up seems to be intended more for views and the "Gotcha" factor than informing the public about the device. I hope this isn't an indicator for future videos.

  • @geckoo9190
    @geckoo9190 7 днів тому

    I like the fact that is not full of cameras everywhere, I never use the selfie camera, but I still need my apps, like the picture viewer or the excel.

  • @balluballu7601
    @balluballu7601 15 днів тому +4

    7:17 what do you mean by "not spoiling the video", I thought this was a review channel xD

  • @SomeoneBeginingWithI
    @SomeoneBeginingWithI 14 днів тому +15

    If it doesn't have a sim card slot, its not a mobile phone. The world is increasingly moving away from landlines, and sometimes you really do need to make a phone call. A lot of services require you to be able to receive texts for two factor authentication. The primary usecase for a dumb phone is to be able to call and text. If you buy this, you would need to buy a phone as well, which defeats the purpose.

    • @IWillSayMyPeace
      @IWillSayMyPeace 14 днів тому +1

      Why did mkbhd whatever, call it a "phone" is what I don't understand.

    • @SomeoneBeginingWithI
      @SomeoneBeginingWithI 14 днів тому

      @@IWillSayMyPeace it's phone sized, and runs the android operating system, so it has a lot of phone-like properties. It does the things most people use their phones for most of the time, so I can see where he's coming from, in saying that it fails fundamentally at being a phone because it's not a phone

  • @theuseraccountname
    @theuseraccountname 14 днів тому +31

    With or without a SIM card, this isn't a phone. It can't send or receive calls or texts, therefore it's not a phone; phone is short for telephone after all.
    This is a phone-sized e-ink reader that runs androidOS, you can call it a phone-sized tablet if you prefer.

    • @anoukk_
      @anoukk_ 14 днів тому +1

      So with a sim it would be a phone

  • @smievil
    @smievil 2 дні тому

    buying a smartphone without sim was a game changer for
    been so quiet ever since

  • @Abdulla77
    @Abdulla77 15 днів тому +75

    David Pierce from the Verge.. he’s the guy I first heard it from , and most probably responsible for the increased fanbase 😅

    • @jjmot27
      @jjmot27 15 днів тому +3

      He’s the reason I bought mine 😅

    • @user-file-x-life
      @user-file-x-life 15 днів тому

      حيا الله عبد الله

  • @CampbellAxt
    @CampbellAxt 14 днів тому +4

    5:39 That Pen Type-C 👀

  • @jsos9434
    @jsos9434 14 днів тому +13

    And the Oscar for best hand acting in a youtube video go to Marques at 3:55

  • @heyyitsmelina
    @heyyitsmelina 11 днів тому

    I've seen these all around, and they don't really market it as a phone, but a palm sized e-reader. The exciting part of this is that it's like the size of your phone, so It'll fit in your pocket. It's not supposed to replace your phone, it's just an alternate type of e-reader (like Kindle, Nook, etc)

  • @kuzeyrl
    @kuzeyrl 14 днів тому +5

    0:12 the most smooth rotoscoping i've ever seen

    • @kuzeyrl
      @kuzeyrl 14 днів тому

      *i assume

    • @42crazyguy
      @42crazyguy 14 днів тому

      See more things

    • @kaebrenwillis7442
      @kaebrenwillis7442 14 днів тому

      rotoscoping is with animation, it was just good editing of a drawing of him cutting into an actual scene

  • @HerrBrisby
    @HerrBrisby 8 днів тому +5

    **Marques pointing at a washing machine** "This is also a bad phone."
    Wow, thank you, Mr. Tech expert...

  • @PedroHenriquePS00000
    @PedroHenriquePS00000 15 днів тому +11

    You know what would be Good? a foldable phone with a e ink on the outside, and normal display on the inside (or vice versa). You are welcome samsung

    • @RostovII
      @RostovII 14 днів тому

      That is a good idea.

  • @ethanpowell3203
    @ethanpowell3203 10 днів тому

    I’m really happy to see you give some notoriety to companies who make devices that don’t fit the mold of every other product and carve out a niche for themselves. Really interesting review 🤙

  • @KROMAprd
    @KROMAprd 15 днів тому +5

    bringing these creative intros back has been such a blessing

  • @ElonOfficial
    @ElonOfficial 15 днів тому +7

    Having Logic in the intro is GOATED

    • @winky_pi
      @winky_pi 14 днів тому

      FRRRR

    • @SurrealExposure12
      @SurrealExposure12 14 днів тому +1

      real ones know that one of Marques' fav albums is the incredible true story

  • @nowaymyname
    @nowaymyname 14 днів тому +4

    I think this might be the first time that MKBHD did not understand a device.
    This is not a phone nor is it suppose to replace a phone. It’s an e-reader that has a google play store. The reason people love this device is because it’s an e-reader that fits in the palm of your hand and can do more than just read books. It’s great for reading stuff on the web as well. I hope he acknowledges his mistake and addresses how wrong he got it here because this is a wonderful product that he is completely misrepresenting.

  • @adamgtrap
    @adamgtrap 9 днів тому

    This reminds me of something David Owen has written. If your goal is to reduce carbon emissions from cars, you don't need any fancy electric or fuel-efficient vehicles. All you need is to mandate that vehicles be miserable, expensive, and slow to drive, because people just won't drive unless it's actually necessary.
    If your goal is using phones less, get a phone that sucks to use.

  • @ElliotGoodwin
    @ElliotGoodwin 15 днів тому +9

    What is that alarm clock app I need it!! 7:45

    • @Mio-cm9xk
      @Mio-cm9xk 14 днів тому +1

      default, can be set in the settings

  • @youtubeanimeCODM
    @youtubeanimeCODM 15 днів тому +6

    That intro and background are goated

  • @manan-543
    @manan-543 14 днів тому +6

    This phone is perfect. I struggle with phone addiction and this should be a great help. Easy on the eyes, no bright colours. I don't know why they didn't put a sim card. There's nothing distracting about a sim card. Only option for calling someone is internet calling which is a bit inconvenient.

  • @asyapolyak589
    @asyapolyak589 8 днів тому

    I bought Palma and happy with it because of one reason: my eyes and head are in pain because of screens.
    e-ink is the only technology that allows me to a have break but stay productive.
    As a result, I use it for books reading, notes taking and fun communication.
    The size and weight are perfect to take it everywhere.

  • @roymustang3247
    @roymustang3247 15 днів тому +7

    I suffer from migraines triggered by smartphone screens, and I've always wished for a device like this. An E-ink display with a SIM card slot would make my life a lot better-no more feeling like I'm swallowing a little bonfire every time I take those hepatotoxic migraine tablets.

  • @GonGuerreiro
    @GonGuerreiro 14 днів тому +21

    Whats the weather Widget that appears at 1:02 ? Thanks

    • @satelliteimagerymusic
      @satelliteimagerymusic 14 днів тому +23

      It appears to be Not Boring Weather

    • @GonGuerreiro
      @GonGuerreiro 14 днів тому

      @@satelliteimagerymusic thanks mate! Tried it out, but it’s a subscription service, the widget is good looking but I’m not willing to pay a yearly fee to have it 😂

    • @GonGuerreiro
      @GonGuerreiro 13 днів тому

      @@satelliteimagerymusic thank you mate! Got a look at it, but it’s a subscription weather app. Dope widget but not going to pay for it 🤣

  • @magnificify
    @magnificify 14 днів тому +6

    8:08 that's called a book

  • @GingerBradMan21
    @GingerBradMan21 12 днів тому

    I think its a good weekend device when you're done working, to disconnect, or when you're on holiday