Is 24/7 Pain Still TMS / Perceived Danger Pain?
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Is 24/7 Pain Still TMS / Perceived Danger Pain?
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the pain is almost 24/7 i thank God for any little sleep i get i'm doing what Dan says now no matter what ! This is my hope It's so hard to be distracted because of the strength. So this is what I must work for.
You know.. I've had a light bulb moment...I don't take pain relief in the morning now... I've realised that I just get on and pay no attention to pain symptoms... They're still there... But hey I'm good...
However.... In the evening around 9pm my pain flares and I feel I need pain relief to sleep... But as you said in the video about that lady experiencing symptoms at 4 o'clock.... So light bulb moment I'm conditioning and teaching my brain to dial up pain around 9pm. Expecting (subconsciously) for it to happen ..😳.... So new day today.... I'm not going to expect because I'm now aware.... But even if it does flare around 9pm... I know I'm safe... Keeping calm I'm not broken I'm OK... And intend to sleep well and wake up well... Thanks again Dan... Superb!!! 😊😊
Over a dozen symptoms 24/7 to varying degrees for 20 years. Baseline is 7 goes up to 8, 9 I’m incapacitated in bed, 10 is I would go to ER. Wake up constantly from them durning the night. I wake up with all of them in the morning and feel very sick every morning . They do not change if I’m on vacation or when I’m doing things that I love and bring me joy. I am for the most part a happy person and have a heavy background in MBSR and am well studied (and passionate) about the neuroscience of chronic pain and chronic symptomatology so I am rarely in fear about them (only sometimes during a level 9) but they still persist. They don’t piss me off, I love and appreciate my body so much, but i live with constant, high levels of stmptoms and fatigue throughout my system. 🤷🏻♀️
I had a 10/10 head pain. I had a spinal fluid leak, it definitely put all my other pain in perspective! Had to wait 2 years for surgery. I am blessed to be where I am post surgery and finding the world of mindbody work.
My frien has this but surgery not worked are you hypermobile I have fybromyalgia it tms
you know your pain is bad when you ask god to take you when you sleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hear you loud and clear!
I'm not at all saying the pain is caused by evil spirits but I've found deliverance prayers to be very helpful. A lot of my anxiety has lifted. Jesus Christ is the great physician.
Seriously. For real!!!!
I sleep 2,3 hours of sleep and wake up screaming in pain. I get Charlie horse or inflammation flare in my hips glutes and back. I tried the emergency 4 times and they say we can’t help you if thats chronic pain. My experience is persistent. I feel like I have no idea what to do.
I’d like to teach my brain that im ok but im concerned because I keep losing weight that I can’t afford to lose. How can I speak better about this pain?
@@lauriemtz8616 the important thing is to know that you will get better. It's very difficult to be okay with the pain but if you know it's temporary then it will get easier. It's like when we hurt ourselves, the pain isn't that bad because we know it'll pass. Also try focus on things outside yourself that used to bring enjoyment - even if you can't enjoy them now.
If you can, God brings great comfort, just knowing that he's there with you in this.
I know you will get better but until then find tiny ways to enjoy yourself - and eat as much of your favourite foods as you can :)
If you need to chat you can always reply to this, I'll be around.
❤️🙏
I recognize myself in having an expectation that symptoms are stronger every other day which has been going on for over a year. Even though I tell myself not to have that expectation, it happens anyway and symptoms are stronger.
I notice lately that even though symptoms are stronger every other day, they are not as strong as they used to be.
My symptoms are 24/7 nonstop ! I don’t sleep I doze only maybe a total of a hour 2 broken only 😭 I can’t sit stand or lay because of the burning internal and external unbearable rectum ,sacrum tailbone ,torso and spine pain to mention the worst but many many more and any pressure at all sometimes even my clothes . My pain is a 10 out of 10 and there is absolutely NOTHING the hospital can do NOTHING! No meds TOUCH this pain over 7 years ! So yes mine is absolutely 24/7 ! I’m living my life however and grateful for the support of my husband that has been to every Dr ,procedures,tests bless him for that ❤️ However I do believe this is pain that will GO 🦋 I know I’m safe and not damaged . As of right now it’s a well beaten path but I’m cutting new paths to becoming PAIN FREE 🤠
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Got your symptoms some changed found out I have autism ADHD as alot do with chronic symptoms do you have these
My back pain is worst in the morning. It is not a 10 or even a 7. It is the emotional fear & anguish that is so high. Is my emotional anguish a 10? Perhaps not, but it is a 7 or 8. I will continue to teach my brain I'm safe and OK. Thanks Dan.
So True, When I am engaged watching a T V program or surfing the web. I have no symptoms.
I try to do that and I still feel pain
@@lauriemtz8616
Same here! Doing my best 🙌🏻
My story is pretty common: anxiety and urinary symptoms non stop because my father had prostate cancer, terminal stage 4. We all lived together and for one year I had to watch him fade away and eventually die. Over those 12 months I developed overactive bladder symptoms and urinary symptoms and I thought i was going to get cancer too, now 2 years later I still have some pain in my pelvic floor area because of a severe anxiety reaction to what happened but I push through it like a mad man, I wake up at 6 feeling awful I go for a run and then jumprope and then in the evening I go for pullups🤷♂️ motion is lotion, this stupid condition is not going to stop me at all, sometimes the mind plays dark games like you’re weak stay down take a rest you’re hurting if you move alot you will damage yourself but no I will channel that pain into working out and running everyday
Great video! Thanks Dan!
Hi Dan , I’m watching your videos and it’s giving me relief. I’ve excruciating muscle spasms on my back and I feel like I couldn’t move my back and shoulder and I’m only 26 . I read dr Sarnos book TMS , mind body connection. And you talked about fear and attention makes the symptoms worse , and I’m trying to follow your advice . You are a great man , May Allah bless you .
The sensation that keeps getting me is frequent urination before bed and during the night. It wakes me up every 1-2 hours every night. It takes a while to calm the brain back down. Rinse and repeat. This stuff is very very difficult.
Calming the central nervous system down overall is the way to overcome bladder symptoms. Unfortunately, the feeling of needing to go to the bathroom is not one that can actually go away, but it can be turned down so it’s not so loud all the time. It is one of the core symptoms of central sensitization or TMS.
@@thelaceygirl, thank you. I know that is what’s going on but I am having a difficult time calming the nervous system to reduce the need to urinate. I invite it in and take it with me where ever I go. I guess it likes sticky around. Hopefully I will get some more tools in my tool bag to reduce my static load to calm these sensations down
@@mikeschiffmann3708 a small comment I got that in past, and nobody knew what it was till I realised myself. Except for being psychological at some point, and so annoying u feel u never sleep, mine got triggered each time I jumped in a freezing cold pool, muscles clenched and that kicked in the bladder to clench. Just a comment in case, normal water followed by freezing can activate this clench, surely not with everyone but with me it did.
@user-mv2gv9zj8w, thank you for the reply. I can feel that I am right in the pelvic when this happens. I have other things going on in that area too. When it does happen it immediately produces a fear response in my body. Sometimes it gets me and other times I can be indifferent to it. I am still on the recovering journey.
I'm turning into this not with pain but dizziness and unfortunately it's 24/7.
Do you sleep? If so, dizziness is not perceived when sleeping. Then it's not 24/7.
How many times have we heard the words "nothing lasts forever ... "
Its said in songs, movies, books, quotes, speeches etc by all manner of people...
So why not for TMS/PDP sensations etc when we feel its going on 24/7 ? 😰
Of course I realise its not as simple as telling ourselves those words and all our pains / sensations / fears etc just magically stop... But its a good starting point when totally overwhelmed to try and offer safety to our brains.
Words have power... ❤❤❤
I needed to hear this! Thank you Dan!!
I am upset because I cannot do the laundry get food at the grocery store go to the bank cook and I have no one here to help me.
Then you have to survive. You can take little steps. Obviously don't know your medical history. Had severe agoraphobia. My car got me to shop, in n out.
Once you’ve understood and accepted it’s TMS, how do you then deal with the self-blame and guilt when you have a setback/flare-up? I feel like I’ve messed it up or ‘done it wrong’ because my brain obviously isn’t feeling safe. And that’s a very negative feeling that in itself is on the danger side.
I feel for me It's the other way round:
When my symptoms flare up again, it's usually the result of excitement, sometimes through my own fault.
But that's exactly what confirms that it's TMS/PDP and that I can improve again by responding well.
And so it happens as soon as the fog clears and I realise the connections all over again.
I get that totally. Have been doing well for months but now struggling with a flare up that is very persistent. And now beating myself up for not getting it fixed.
This happens to me every weekend, when I have too much time for myself I get symptoms. The opposite happens usually to people when they rest no symptoms when they are at works symptoms
Happens to me as well.
Really good points, Dan. if you write a book that should be in there for sure.
Often times when we come back to the present moment, it slams us back into the pain, and we assume it was there all along. I think it might be more true to say that if we are not conscious of it in any moment, then it doesn’t exist, at least in that moment.
As far as 10 out of 10 Pain, that Pain screams kill me now! I think a few of us have gotten to 10 out of 10, and I have experienced extreme pain myself. I have read a few accounts of people having horrific accidents, going to heaven for a little while, and coming back. Those were 10 out of 10.
The more you can separate Pain from suffering, however, the freer you are.
I have been on the floor with sciatica for a week now it subsides a bit when I am in a comfortable lying or sitting but cannot walk or do things.
Thank you Dan great topic I thought that because my symptoms in my back are 24/7 and get worse at night when I lay down I was on gabapentin for a few months to help me sleep but now I'm off I don't take them every night I only take it once a week to help me sleep my pain level goes up and down throughout the day I'm learning not to give in to the fear and attention of these symptoms because I know what it is
I have all this tingling and pinching sensation over my face and body🥺
Sounds like over breathing anxiety, pdp
I have sciatica for exactly on week when I try to walk and do simply things my right leg is on fire with pain - I cannot ignore it or be indifferent - I have to sit or lay down.
It's not possible to ignore pain. We WILL notice it. It's how we respond mentally and emotionally that matters.
Thanks
Wonderful, nice, right, many thanks 😅
Ty Dan ❤❤❤❤
Does this mean to ignore them? That seems impossible!
No, I have never suggested we ignore pain or symptoms because it actually IS impossible.
This video explains: ua-cam.com/video/hxEJO6tQpoo/v-deo.html
Dan, dr says chronic tendonopathy cannot be cured, thus pain. Did Sarno say this to be true?
Google says: "Yes, tendinopathy, also known as tendonitis, usually heals on its own." Not sure this doctor is correct.
I'm not sure what Sarno said about this medical diagnosis. What is WAY more important is to determine if the pain is caused by a damaged tendon or the brain perceiving danger. Take the assessments to see what is going on for YOU. That is way more than what sarno thought about this supposed medical condition. IsThisTMS.com
I had a really hard night intense sweating and extreme pelvic pain at first coming through into my dreams then woke me up. 9/10 feel sick from pain. Went over and over my safety messages and was able to sleep a little hours later but it is really scary and depressing. It seemed to come out of nowhere. Middle of the night pain that intense is worse than any amount of pain during the day at least for me. I don’t know how to handle the fear and depression that causes. It’s been 3 years and though I’ve made a bit of progress with Dan’s techniques it’s still here. Horrific pelvic/low right side pain for no known reason. Many times I get discouraged and ask God to bring me home but apparently He wants me here still. Day by day. It’s very challenging 😢
Just had a similar night. In a big flare up- ridiculously challenging. But we'll get through it ❤
Thank you always Dan
This is why women in labour scream. It’s pretty close to a 10 out of 10, but I’d say more like an eight or nine.
Ha ha!! Yes, and men don't get that one. Two days in labour in the days before epidurals, and definitely 10/10.