Are these comments like a crap meme now? Very similar but more and more intense for attention. More posting just to do it rather than with any truth or purpose. A pro tip, wow lol
A very unexpected topic for a video on soviet/russian cars. People outside the former USSR are usually just talk about Ladas or if they want to dig deeper - Moskvitches. And yet - here we are. A detailed look on something very few know about. Love it. Thanks to the forementioned Pig for shouting you out. Also, i find the lack of Volga 3111 in the video disturbing. That was truly the last grasp by Gaz at a modern Volga, and was produced in bigger numbers than 3105, and was kind of a cheaper smaller more avalible to the people. Yet, still costed the same as western counterparts
I didn't cover the 3111 because it was much more a do-over of previous gen volgas, with much of the floorpan sharing similar fundamentals from what I've been able to learn (although I'd be interested to be corrected!). I was more so trying to focus on the new developments being made, to emphasize the point that not *everything* in the USSR was a tarted-up 60s turd. On top of that, if I covered the 3111 I'd feel obligated to cover every single modernisation attempt of the old Volga platform which would've blown the video out of proportion; I did that once with the Rover video, and that took me (admittedly on-and-off) 3 months!
@@IntergalacticBinman no, actually it's other way around. Volga 3111 was an all original car at the design stage, but in order to get into production, some parts were "temporary" changed to the Volga 3110 one's (like, for example, rear suspension). But after the 3111 failure, some parts of 3111 were remade for 3110, thus making 31105 with new front suspension, based on the 3111.
i discovered your channel via lazerpigs shoutout yesterday, binged all your videos in one sitting, and was left feeling empty throughout today, thinking, theres nothing to return to after uni. Thank you for the wonderful surprise.
I'm living in Nizhniy Novgorod and lived all my teen years in the city where ZMZ plant was located and engines for Volga cars were made. Thank you for such a deep and detailed video about complicated and probably confusing history of Russian automotive history.
Tovarish, thank you for promoting the great soviet automobile industry. Unlike stupid westerners, we, have the best accessories in our cars. Unlimited entertainment from constantly fixing them and amazing winter fishing hole. Tovarish Lazer Pig sends his regards.
frequent breakdowns of Soviet cars is just a myth. In addition, Soviet cars were built with increased strength, since operating conditions in Russia are more severe.
@@КостикК all of my uncles that had rust bucket called Жигуль, would disagree with you. Also, there is a reason why it was a dream in a union to buy ANY international car.
fully agree, but the cool reason that they might seem reliable and your uncles still had a rustbucket of a žiguly is the fact that they were designed to be built so poorly that any roadside fixes with a rock and some shoelace will probably be about as good as the factory stuff
@@КостикК Lada wasn't even a Soviet designed car, it's a Fiat 124 dumbed down for Russia and designed in Turin. Assembled in the Toligstatt plant, completely built by Fiat.
@@Zughiv that doesn't give these cars an excuse for the fact that they're still piles of shit. western manufacturing wasn't amazing by any modern standards, but even back then i'd wager it was lightyears better than any russian production.
when Brezhnev asked his mother "how do you like all my cars?" she said "“It’s very nice, but what will happen when the Communists come back to power?” Last week i ordered a VOSTOK amphibia
Thanks for the great video! A small correction: ZIL is torn down years ago, now there’s a residential complex. The only thing left from old ZIL is its entrance building. Being a teenager when ZIL was demolished, I’ve made numerous visits there and it fascinated me just how massive this factory was. Btw, I know an owner of one of 55 GAZ 3105s… let me put it this way: it shows that it’s not a production model. And in case anyone wondered, yeah, that front seats are indeed pulled from a Volvo.
@CheeseScout yeah, I’ve seen that documentary. There are also numerous written sources in Russian about last years of ZIL, it’s a sad story. As an automotive enthusiast you also might be interested in history of MZMA/AZLK plant (their cars are known as Moskvitchs) - they had a lot of innovative ideas for that time and place, and I think most of post-Soviet automotive-related people at some point were working at AZLK
@@Telecolor-in3cl it was on that exact factory! Let me explain a thing about Soviet factories: every factory was required to produce some kind of "basic consumer goods". Each of them, no exceptions. So we had things like frying pans and forks made on secret military factories, or, as with ZIL, refrigerators. We actually had one, thing was indestructible and stylish. Heavy as a tank. Worked well despite being 50-ish years old.
A very well researched video, especially for someone who doesn't know Russian. A couple of remarks though: 1- You left out the GAZ 3111 Volga from the early 2000s, which failed for the same reason it's predecessors did: a good car that wasn't significantly cheaper than it's established competition in the executive car segment. 2- GAZ wasn't "robbed by Putin and the oligarchs" (a very oversimplified relationship btw). Its civilian plants and brand name were bought up by Oleg Deripaska's "Basic Element" industrial group, and is now the country's largest manufacturer of vans and pickup trucks, and the second largest manufacturer of buses and coaches. Last but not least, they went from an enterprise that relied on state funding to survive in the 1990s one that actually turns a profit (yes, even without it's military vehicles, which accounted for the bulk of its revenue in Soviet times).
Zil had one last gasp with the ZIL-4112R. A prototype was built in 2006-2012. This was basically a 41047 with a facelift, and an attempt to get a Kremlin contract for new state limousines. There's an hour-long documentary 'The last limousine' that tells the story of the 4112R. Putin went 'nah' and used Mercedes limos until the Aurus brand was set up to build the Senat.
I saw one in Canada near Toronto. It was a magnificent car. It's very rare here, I think it's the only one in Canada. It was at an auto exposition. It looks intimidating, like a tank. (The older limousine, not the prototype, obviously)
I love it when people make videos on the Soviet car industry. My grandfather was a driver for a local KGB agent, and his Volga was given as a personal car. My other grandfather frame swapped the body of a used, rusty VAZ-2101 he had bought onto a scrap VAZ-2105 chassis, as it was easier to do that than to buy a new car. Soviet car culture is so interesting. Great video, love ❤
@CheeseScoutI think he was driving a regular Volga for a KGB official. The V8 ones were for field operatives to keep up with cars of foreign diplomats (i.e. spies) while blending in with the traffic. Which is lucky for him since from what I know V8 ones required special training because in order to fit a Chaika V8 into a smaller engine bay they had remove power brakes. And Volgas never had power steering.
Absolutely love your content! The LazerPig was right, definitely 200% worth the subscription. Binge watched everything you made and was sat here like "booo, want more!" and boom. There you are to save my evening. Love it.
Which video does The Pig reference this channel in? I've watched all his videos but I admittedly get pretty drunk for LazerPig videos, so I don't remember in which one that he references this channel. This sorta just showed up for me, so I guess the algorithm is on point, because I'm with my people
@@jameswhite153 Hey thanks fam! I put that one in my late night queue for a re-watch. I can for sure see a similarity in style between His Muddiness and our guy Binman, however, that isn't a knock against either channel.
As someone who's grandad was a Volga chauffeur, I very much enjoyed someone finally covering the wierd and quirky soviet luxury cars. But i'd still love to see some of your takes on some other communist cars, especially the weird, niche ones, like some of the east German, Polish or Yugoslavian stuff. Also as a Latvian I can't not bring up the RAF vans and buses, anyways great video and channel.
There are @Intergalactic Binman some experimental RAF vans you can cover, like RAF-M1 "Roxanne" (РАФ-М1 Роксана) and RAF-M2 "Stils" (РАФ-М2 Стилс) As well as Izh's and Moskvich's experiments ("Старт", "Истра" etc.)
Rafs are almost never brought up even amongst the people who know the automotive industry of the USSR well, HECK, it's almost never brought up when talking about Soviet latvia! Really underrated vehicle and although it was just an amalgamated Volga, it still had a ton of personality and I love the hull shape.
Usually I get into UA-cam channels during/after their “blow up”. But this feels new and primed for an excellent run of great content. Don’t stop what you’re doing this is great content and so entertaining
I kind of laighed as you were prepping for the GAZ 3106...i was not ready and almost made an audible yell seeing thay first image. It actually gives me the legitimate creeps. I've never had such a negative physical reaction to a car design.
Ma dude, loooovely video! I came from Piggy and I am definitly here to stay! Don't buckle under the "preassure" of more subs tho. Keep it up your way. That's exactly why we came here! Best of luck and until your next vid sir!
Subscribed when LazierPig recommended you, and I watched all your videos, and I was carrying with laughter. Love your channel. Keep up the great work 👍 💪
@@IntergalacticBinman yeah. I read all the theory. Had all the books, debated and discussed. But at the end of the day when you read about all the genocides and gulags. Yeah nah.
@@AnimarchyHistory Still a tankie. I've read theory, debated before, the works. Gulags and genocides in the case of the USSR often happened, but not for the reasons Western academics typically state.
@@jakekaywell5972 sure, McCarthyism is a bitch. We know. But the Tartars, Chechens, The various ethnic groups throughout the Northern Caucuses, multiple pogroms, The Holodomor, Hungary 56, Prague 68, Kolyma, Vorkuta, The Russification of all the satellite states making Russian the state language and banning the speaking of their native tongue. I mean I could go on. But that’s just the basics and all stuff that the USSR (now Russia) admits to doing themselves. (Except the Holodomor for obvious reasons). If we go into the stuff we “THINK” they did we will be here all night.
@@jakekaywell5972 Gulags and genocides happened pretty much any place that went ultra-red and I only wrote 'pretty much', because sometimes it was "just" mass murder.
Hello from Nizhny!You actually showed the true history of both GAZ and ZIL,however,you missed the modern part(2010s and 2020).Gaz is still operating and is making more cars(vans)now than ever In 1994,when GAZelle first launched,it was the main and the only vehicle to keep the factory alive.The main thing why did people buy them are cheapness and being able to work in all kind of conditions. It didn't have a good quality,but it was the only van in Russia in the 90s.Right now the quality stood up a lot(mainly due to Cummins engines).As for the ZiL,their trucks are still used,but as a farming tools.Since the only cars that they made were officials,they are still in a very good condition and considered as a retro-vehicle,like 60s Mustang in the US. As of a factory,it's dead and there's nothing left in it.Overall good video
As a Car Mechanic I am sad to see what has happened to the biggest Car makers of the Former Soviet Union. Wish I could have seen them bloom into a prosperous company selling quality cars. Sadly what goes up must come down,and both went down and continue to do so.
Мне бы хотелось другое увидеть - крушение буржуазной власти и захват заводов рабочим классом. Я бы всё отдал за одну лишь возможность увидеть как всех этих буржуев отправили бы на виселицу за все их чудовищные поступки.
Makes sense when your car industry don't make inovations during probably 30 years or so, only when they where endangered Because russian pepole and soviet in general can acces western Cars that where better enginiered and built.
I'm some Aussie bloke who had absolutely no chance of ever finding your channel had it remained within the depths of the British youtube sphere but the second I saw some footage of your videos I knew this was the kind of content I'd enjoy. As someone who knows relatively little about cars (apart from engines ironically lmao) and surrounded by car fanatics, I needed a way to catch up to my friends in car knowledge without having to spend hours trawling forums and various top gear reruns I don't expect an almighty encyclopaedic assortment of information on this channel, it's nice to just hear about little pieces of car lore here and there keep up the good work, you've earned my subscription
I've just binge-watched all of your content after your Spyker video popping up in my recommended. Great content, the mix between Big Car and Michael Reeves I never knew I needed. Loving all the nods to memes and also the little easter eggs like album art when you mention years. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more videos!
I know very little about cars, thank you for the thorough coverage on each manufacturer/brand. Please make more so I can go from a person who has never seen a car to someone who can talk intelligently about them.
Dude I genuinely love your videos so much. They're informative, they're funny and most importantly, the visuals are amazing. Please keep up the wonderful work
Hell yeah, I'd already finished binging the first 4 videos a couple days ago (yes, the Pig sent me). Let's go, keep it up binman. This channel primed and ready for growth.
Hi from Sydney, Australia. Your video appeared randomly as one that may potentially be of interest. AND yes it was. Thanks for your excellent presentation and visuals for what are now super rare cars. Well done. I loved the blunt magnitude of the two Zil prototypes. I'm now 67 yrs old and on 7th September this year have been driving for 41 years a "flat-pack" sent as kit 1974 Cadillac Talisman to be built in Sydney by General Motors Holden's as right hand drive. This was the most expensive , elaborate version of a Cadillac. Made for just 3 years Talisman offered massive luxury and were powered by an almost 8.3 litre V8 engine, the introductory 1974's like mine were the most elaborate. I bought mine from the first owner, Black in color with "italian tan" (mustard color) leather interior, it looks very "official" 6 metres long and 2 metres wide it does not blend into the environment with todays little cars.
oh my GOD i’ve been waiting for anyone to tell the story of the russian manufacturers! it’s such an interesting topic and you’ve done such an amazing job at showing it! fantastic video, cant wait for more!!
Well, the pig sent me and I've proceeded to binge watch every one or your automotive videos all the way through. Fantastic work that's incredibly underappreciated. Also, I'd happily wait 3 months for a video the of the same quality as the rover video or this one. The rover video was a masterpiece.
Perfect timing after all laser pig has sent a lot of people your way I was brought to you by the algorithm which works in mysterious ways but none the less I can’t wait to watch this video
I literally stumbled upon your channel by accident. As someone who is wholly ignorant of and not particularly interested in cars, I found this an entertaining and educational video and I crave MORE. You present the information in an easily digestible manner and your humor sprinkled throughout makes it very easy to stay invested!
Brilliant videos dude! I am hooked, feel withdrawal setting in already, ive watched all your uploads twice over with a 12 hour period..... Keep up the great work man!
Heyo Hio! I just caught up to this video. Thank you for your hard work and amazing content my dude! I'm honestly really happy to have found this place as it's rare to find youtubers that cover content about non-US or Japanese manufactures at all. Love your content, hope to see plenty more in the future! Thank you for making it and I wish you the best.
Ive always been interested into getting into cars, but have always been kinda overwhelmed to start, this has been an EXCELLENT recommendation from the pig, loved the video and excited for more coming up!
Dog, I know 80s and 70s autos are often shit, hard to maintain, have no parts and drink gas like beer, but FUCK I just love their look, their jank, and general weirdness
It's true about standing in line to buy a car. But not so drastic. Second hand market did exist and bloomed. Zaporozhets was shit tier, moskvitch was meh, and zhiguli was bmw of the time, and quite attainable to a young couple of engineers. But just like anything else in USSR it was done around official channels. Which is quite interesting by itself. Volga was hard to obtain but doable. My grandad was a decorated war vet and he drove a volga. So you didn't have to be a marshal or whatever.
@@callusklaus2413 thanks. Both my grandads did, but this grandad also held order of Lenin, for his factory work stuff inventions optimizations and all. But both of them had access to special stores with tasty stuff. That's the real compensation. :)) But he got volga first hand, so thats bonus as well. God I miss him.
I'm really enjoying your work. I love the liberal use of dry humor and snarky quips. Also, your voice has a Chris Barrie-esque quality to it that I find familiar and soothing. Keep it up.
So this video is the first time I've ever really looked at a 4102, and well, I'm with you 100% with regards to it's presence. Sinister is the perfect term for this car. I think the corner lights would have really taken away from how that car feels to look at. I doubt I ever will, but it would be really cool to see a black 4102 in person. The more I look at the 4102 the more I like it. I'm glad I stumbled on this channel!
I'm so glad the UA-cam algorithm recommended your video and channel! Very funny, very well researched and quite informative. You have gained another subscriber :)
Just found this channel and honestly it's one of the funnier things on UA-cam atm Great songs choices, actually funny, talking about cars. Honestly a hidden gem, with the editing style and the narration I'm very surprised you only have a small subscriber count P.S: Could you talk about Subaru and Mitsubishi in a video? Massive rallying legends with aircraft and tank manufacturing history, now reduced to making Crossovers that no-one wants? Would probably make an interesting video, and I'm sure it would be hilarious
Joined after the raid of your channel :) Love your ADHD editing style and really enjoy your thoughts on the different facets of the car industry. - a fellow ADHDer
Wow, you just refreshed my childhood memories of late 90s when I saw these Volga concepts in dad's auto magazines reports from local auto shows, wondering when I would see them on the streets instead of those 24s from 80s
I'm here cuz of Lazerpig but omg your content is fun to listen to, it's funny, entertaining, great learning value and your voice is great to listen to 👍🏻 Keep making the great content
16:36 I actually quoted the "MY EYES!!!" joke from spongebob before it came on screen. It's kind of scary that our senses of humor coalesced at that point. Also, with regards to the Later Gaz 13/14 and the earlier ZIL models, they definitely both possess that whole "slap the right badge and you could sell it here in America easily" styling vibe that a lot of EU/JDM/AUS market only cars seem to have in spades.
You finnaly getting recognitions and more subscribers is the greatest plot twist, i was shocked that you weren't a huge channel with such quality Keep going you're great !
Didn't find your channel through LazerPig, but through this randomly recommended video alone would consider you one of the best video essay youtubers I'll have the pleasure of watching as you hopefully continue to create this amazing content!! Keep it up, your 5K... I mean... 14K subs are ready for more!
16:23 I actually kind of like the Aztec, so as I'm already brain dead, I'll probably be fine. ...Is what I said before I saw it, and am now cleaning up my own vomit.
Interestingly, the Gaz 3106 at 16:47 gives me some Mitsuoka Orochi vibes on the front, that's... Interesting! Anyway, very good videos, i just discovered your channel and i'm binge watching everything ! As an obscure car enjoyer, I really love your channel (and your humour is awesome)
What interesting video and well researched and informative! As a car nut - I love anything quirky and strange. I was aware of Gaz and Zil so it’s great to hear more.
Same think sort of happened to Tatra. They made one model post soviet into the late 90s which actually was a pretty good luxury car, and then only produced trucks from then on.
@@mateuszzimon8216 "Inspired" is an insulting way of saying _half of the world is now dreaming about a ride in a sportscar, made around a _*_stolen_*_ drivetrain design._ But "dead can't sue", so it seems okay for most of the masses.
@@jayswarrow1196 "Tatra sued Porsche for damages, and Porsche was willing to settle. But Hitler cancelled this, saying he "would settle the matter".[1] Soon after Germany occupied the Sudetenland, Tatra stopped production of the Type 97 and the lawsuit was discontinued. After the Second World War Tatra resumed its lawsuit. In 1965 Volkswagen settled it by paying Tatra DM 1,000,000 in compensation.[11]" I know reasearch is hard
Yep,the Pig sent me too. Your channel is great!Intersting informative and fu all rolled into one great big ball!The Pig has surprisingly good taste. Subbed.
Just found this video and my hyperfixation on weird cars was piqued. I'd love to see a dive on the DDR's Rovomobil or Melkus RS1000 also from DDR. Or one from my home FSO Syrena Sport. ex-Warsaw Pact Sports car concepts are definitely a strange thing to witness. Also cool story on Ghost of Belgrade
As Gaz-31029 owner say,pretty good and interesting for considering opinions about the Russian car industry not around lada's) As I read the history of the Volga, the gas engineers had enough ideas and solutions for them, but the soviet government simply did not allow "radically different" cars to be made. Keep it up)
@@RedBird7 pretty good old Soviet car, it middle between old classic volgas and more modern models. In fact 31029 it's 2410 and early 3102 but much cheaper and with very bad quality from factory. I like it, more comfortable and interesting than old ladas
I found your channel because of LazerPig, but as a car guy, and a history nerd, I love your content. Definitely one of the most interesting channels I've seen in a while
So glad that Lazerpig directed me to your channel. Already decided that I love this channel. Car history done with the same level of entertainment and humor as Lazerpig? Sign me the fuck up!
As a Russian guy myself, to say that i am impressed by the fact that someone foreign man is digging through history of soviet cars with such interest and compassion - would mean nothing. Liked it a lot! And yeah, we do get lemons, a lot...
Don't try to be funny, you're not. Try to stay on topic, you know the thing that is actually interesting. Protip.
Are these comments like a crap meme now? Very similar but more and more intense for attention. More posting just to do it rather than with any truth or purpose. A pro tip, wow lol
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@thetachi5 Really? I'm new to this channel. (Recommended, I am subscribed to LazerPig)
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Lada and Zaorophets had plans and projects for Group B rally racing
Yet another topic already in the backlog! The various Eastern Bloc attempts at Group B and Group S are deserving of their own video.
@@IntergalacticBinman You are thinking of everything!
Shit, i gotta make my own videos on even more obscure topics fast
@@IntergalacticBinman This topic scares me by quite a large mile. I also cannot say how excited i am - this sounds to be excellent!
@@IntergalacticBinman That would be awesome! Will be waiting for that!
Wait, so would they just immediately catch fire, instead of waiting to crash before catching fire like all the other Group B rally cars did?
A very unexpected topic for a video on soviet/russian cars. People outside the former USSR are usually just talk about Ladas or if they want to dig deeper - Moskvitches. And yet - here we are. A detailed look on something very few know about. Love it. Thanks to the forementioned Pig for shouting you out.
Also, i find the lack of Volga 3111 in the video disturbing. That was truly the last grasp by Gaz at a modern Volga, and was produced in bigger numbers than 3105, and was kind of a cheaper smaller more avalible to the people. Yet, still costed the same as western counterparts
I didn't cover the 3111 because it was much more a do-over of previous gen volgas, with much of the floorpan sharing similar fundamentals from what I've been able to learn (although I'd be interested to be corrected!). I was more so trying to focus on the new developments being made, to emphasize the point that not *everything* in the USSR was a tarted-up 60s turd. On top of that, if I covered the 3111 I'd feel obligated to cover every single modernisation attempt of the old Volga platform which would've blown the video out of proportion; I did that once with the Rover video, and that took me (admittedly on-and-off) 3 months!
@@IntergalacticBinman no, actually it's other way around. Volga 3111 was an all original car at the design stage, but in order to get into production, some parts were "temporary" changed to the Volga 3110 one's (like, for example, rear suspension). But after the 3111 failure, some parts of 3111 were remade for 3110, thus making 31105 with new front suspension, based on the 3111.
Вот уж кого точно не ожидал увидеть в комментариях. Здравствуй, Унылый
@@adriangaliver я вездесущ
@CheeseScout if grandma had a pair of wheels, she would've been a motorcycle
i discovered your channel via lazerpigs shoutout yesterday, binged all your videos in one sitting, and was left feeling empty throughout today, thinking, theres nothing to return to after uni.
Thank you for the wonderful surprise.
i was also sent by him
Ha, I was already subbed to this particular sanitation engineer. Plebs. 🥱
Me three 🙂
I myself was recommended by the Aug Gods.
I'm living in Nizhniy Novgorod and lived all my teen years in the city where ZMZ plant was located and engines for Volga cars were made. Thank you for such a deep and detailed video about complicated and probably confusing history of Russian automotive history.
Hi. Please stop killing Ukrainians.
Tovarish, thank you for promoting the great soviet automobile industry. Unlike stupid westerners, we, have the best accessories in our cars. Unlimited entertainment from constantly fixing them and amazing winter fishing hole. Tovarish Lazer Pig sends his regards.
frequent breakdowns of Soviet cars is just a myth. In addition, Soviet cars were built with increased strength, since operating conditions in Russia are more severe.
@@КостикК all of my uncles that had rust bucket called Жигуль, would disagree with you. Also, there is a reason why it was a dream in a union to buy ANY international car.
fully agree, but the cool reason that they might seem reliable and your uncles still had a rustbucket of a žiguly is the fact that they were designed to be built so poorly that any roadside fixes with a rock and some shoelace will probably be about as good as the factory stuff
@@КостикК Lada wasn't even a Soviet designed car, it's a Fiat 124 dumbed down for Russia and designed in Turin. Assembled in the Toligstatt plant, completely built by Fiat.
@@Zughiv that doesn't give these cars an excuse for the fact that they're still piles of shit. western manufacturing wasn't amazing by any modern standards, but even back then i'd wager it was lightyears better than any russian production.
when Brezhnev asked his mother "how do you like all my cars?" she said "“It’s very nice, but what will happen when the Communists come back to power?” Last week i ordered a VOSTOK amphibia
Thanks for the great video! A small correction: ZIL is torn down years ago, now there’s a residential complex. The only thing left from old ZIL is its entrance building. Being a teenager when ZIL was demolished, I’ve made numerous visits there and it fascinated me just how massive this factory was.
Btw, I know an owner of one of 55 GAZ 3105s… let me put it this way: it shows that it’s not a production model. And in case anyone wondered, yeah, that front seats are indeed pulled from a Volvo.
@@astafford8865 lol what
@CheeseScout yeah, I’ve seen that documentary. There are also numerous written sources in Russian about last years of ZIL, it’s a sad story. As an automotive enthusiast you also might be interested in history of MZMA/AZLK plant (their cars are known as Moskvitchs) - they had a lot of innovative ideas for that time and place, and I think most of post-Soviet automotive-related people at some point were working at AZLK
He liked everybody's comments except yours lol 😂😂🤔🤔
@@leoantonov5513 But the "Z.I.L." refrigerator division, where it was located?
@@Telecolor-in3cl it was on that exact factory! Let me explain a thing about Soviet factories: every factory was required to produce some kind of "basic consumer goods". Each of them, no exceptions. So we had things like frying pans and forks made on secret military factories, or, as with ZIL, refrigerators.
We actually had one, thing was indestructible and stylish. Heavy as a tank. Worked well despite being 50-ish years old.
"Nobody would want to become the black volga driver"
*not me looking out my window into a gigantic black volga grill*
A very well researched video, especially for someone who doesn't know Russian.
A couple of remarks though:
1- You left out the GAZ 3111 Volga from the early 2000s, which failed for the same reason it's predecessors did: a good car that wasn't significantly cheaper than it's established competition in the executive car segment.
2- GAZ wasn't "robbed by Putin and the oligarchs" (a very oversimplified relationship btw). Its civilian plants and brand name were bought up by Oleg Deripaska's "Basic Element" industrial group, and is now the country's largest manufacturer of vans and pickup trucks, and the second largest manufacturer of buses and coaches. Last but not least, they went from an enterprise that relied on state funding to survive in the 1990s one that actually turns a profit (yes, even without it's military vehicles, which accounted for the bulk of its revenue in Soviet times).
Zil had one last gasp with the ZIL-4112R. A prototype was built in 2006-2012. This was basically a 41047 with a facelift, and an attempt to get a Kremlin contract for new state limousines. There's an hour-long documentary 'The last limousine' that tells the story of the 4112R. Putin went 'nah' and used Mercedes limos until the Aurus brand was set up to build the Senat.
Holy shit dude I just looked it up it's so pimpin
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The cars in the film are made for the May 9 parade. For himself, Putin made the Cortege project ("проект кортеж"), which ZIL never completed.
I saw one in Canada near Toronto. It was a magnificent car. It's very rare here, I think it's the only one in Canada. It was at an auto exposition. It looks intimidating, like a tank.
(The older limousine, not the prototype, obviously)
Honestly though, I've always wanted a GAZ. The real comedy is that here in the US it's easier to buy a T34. Seriously.
I love it when people make videos on the Soviet car industry. My grandfather was a driver for a local KGB agent, and his Volga was given as a personal car. My other grandfather frame swapped the body of a used, rusty VAZ-2101 he had bought onto a scrap VAZ-2105 chassis, as it was easier to do that than to buy a new car. Soviet car culture is so interesting. Great video, love ❤
@CheeseScout I believe it was the standard version, V8s were only given to higher-ranking officials and some police forces if I remember correctly
@CheeseScoutI think he was driving a regular Volga for a KGB official. The V8 ones were for field operatives to keep up with cars of foreign diplomats (i.e. spies) while blending in with the traffic. Which is lucky for him since from what I know V8 ones required special training because in order to fit a Chaika V8 into a smaller engine bay they had remove power brakes. And Volgas never had power steering.
Absolutely love your content! The LazerPig was right, definitely 200% worth the subscription. Binge watched everything you made and was sat here like "booo, want more!" and boom. There you are to save my evening. Love it.
I sub you much ealier 🤪
Saaaame, love this channel recommendation
Which video does The Pig reference this channel in? I've watched all his videos but I admittedly get pretty drunk for LazerPig videos, so I don't remember in which one that he references this channel.
This sorta just showed up for me, so I guess the algorithm is on point, because I'm with my people
@@kaylzshter6153 his 300,000 subscriber special.
@@jameswhite153 Hey thanks fam! I put that one in my late night queue for a re-watch. I can for sure see a similarity in style between His Muddiness and our guy Binman, however, that isn't a knock against either channel.
As someone who's grandad was a Volga chauffeur, I very much enjoyed someone finally covering the wierd and quirky soviet luxury cars.
But i'd still love to see some of your takes on some other communist cars, especially the weird, niche ones, like some of the east German, Polish or Yugoslavian stuff. Also as a Latvian I can't not bring up the RAF vans and buses, anyways great video and channel.
There are @Intergalactic Binman some experimental RAF vans you can cover, like RAF-M1 "Roxanne" (РАФ-М1 Роксана) and RAF-M2 "Stils" (РАФ-М2 Стилс)
As well as Izh's and Moskvich's experiments ("Старт", "Истра" etc.)
Rafs are almost never brought up even amongst the people who know the automotive industry of the USSR well, HECK, it's almost never brought up when talking about Soviet latvia! Really underrated vehicle and although it was just an amalgamated Volga, it still had a ton of personality and I love the hull shape.
Don't try to be car, you're not. Try to stay on humour, you know the thing that is actually funny. Protip.
Usually I get into UA-cam channels during/after their “blow up”. But this feels new and primed for an excellent run of great content. Don’t stop what you’re doing this is great content and so entertaining
Found your channel via Lazerpig and am glad I did! Love your content! Very entertaining and informative! Thank you.
I kind of laighed as you were prepping for the GAZ 3106...i was not ready and almost made an audible yell seeing thay first image. It actually gives me the legitimate creeps. I've never had such a negative physical reaction to a car design.
Your Spyker video was recommended to me yesterday, and after watching this too I'm hooked. Keep up the good work!
I just finished bingeing all your car vids and a new one pops up. Lucky me
Ma dude, loooovely video! I came from Piggy and I am definitly here to stay!
Don't buckle under the "preassure" of more subs tho. Keep it up your way. That's exactly why we came here!
Best of luck and until your next vid sir!
Subscribed when LazierPig recommended you, and I watched all your videos, and I was carrying with laughter. Love your channel. Keep up the great work 👍 💪
The algorithm blessed me with your channel today, the content is great. Instant sub
Don’t worry man… we all had a tankie phase *shudder*
I like to think I didn't go further than Commieboo, but of course that might be the rose-tinted glasses talking...
@@IntergalacticBinman yeah. I read all the theory. Had all the books, debated and discussed. But at the end of the day when you read about all the genocides and gulags. Yeah nah.
@@AnimarchyHistory Still a tankie. I've read theory, debated before, the works. Gulags and genocides in the case of the USSR often happened, but not for the reasons Western academics typically state.
@@jakekaywell5972 sure, McCarthyism is a bitch. We know. But the Tartars, Chechens, The various ethnic groups throughout the Northern Caucuses, multiple pogroms, The Holodomor, Hungary 56, Prague 68, Kolyma, Vorkuta, The Russification of all the satellite states making Russian the state language and banning the speaking of their native tongue.
I mean I could go on. But that’s just the basics and all stuff that the USSR (now Russia) admits to doing themselves. (Except the Holodomor for obvious reasons). If we go into the stuff we “THINK” they did we will be here all night.
@@jakekaywell5972 Gulags and genocides happened pretty much
any place that went ultra-red and I only wrote 'pretty much',
because sometimes it was "just" mass murder.
Hello from Nizhny!You actually showed the true history of both GAZ and ZIL,however,you missed the modern part(2010s and 2020).Gaz is still operating and is making more cars(vans)now than ever In 1994,when GAZelle first launched,it was the main and the only vehicle to keep the factory alive.The main thing why did people buy them are cheapness and being able to work in all kind of conditions. It didn't have a good quality,but it was the only van in Russia in the 90s.Right now the quality stood up a lot(mainly due to Cummins engines).As for the ZiL,their trucks are still used,but as a farming tools.Since the only cars that they made were officials,they are still in a very good condition and considered as a retro-vehicle,like 60s Mustang in the US. As of a factory,it's dead and there's nothing left in it.Overall good video
Quite alot of the ZiL 131's are still going in military service.
So are the 130's in general.
As a Car Mechanic I am sad to see what has happened to the biggest Car makers of the Former Soviet Union.
Wish I could have seen them bloom into a prosperous company selling quality cars.
Sadly what goes up must come down,and both went down and continue to do so.
Мне бы хотелось другое увидеть - крушение буржуазной власти и захват заводов рабочим классом.
Я бы всё отдал за одну лишь возможность увидеть как всех этих буржуев отправили бы на виселицу за все их чудовищные поступки.
Makes sense when your car industry don't make inovations during probably 30 years or so, only when they where endangered Because russian pepole and soviet in general can acces western Cars that where better enginiered and built.
I'm some Aussie bloke who had absolutely no chance of ever finding your channel had it remained within the depths of the British youtube sphere
but the second I saw some footage of your videos I knew this was the kind of content I'd enjoy. As someone who knows relatively little about cars (apart from engines ironically lmao) and surrounded by car fanatics, I needed a way to catch up to my friends in car knowledge without having to spend hours trawling forums and various top gear reruns
I don't expect an almighty encyclopaedic assortment of information on this channel, it's nice to just hear about little pieces of car lore here and there
keep up the good work, you've earned my subscription
Why is the cat inspecting the cars ?
He makes sure the are no micehaps with them
Your selection of soungs is remarkable. My heart is touched. Thank you for your thorough research, this is an obvious sub!
I can tell you have a real passion while talking about these topics. I am amazed by your storytelling, and I am here to stay!
I'm honestly annoyed I hadn't found this channel prior to Lazerpig's video. Really good work dude!
There's literally dozens of us!
@@kevfullo Thousands soon!
I've just binge-watched all of your content after your Spyker video popping up in my recommended. Great content, the mix between Big Car and Michael Reeves I never knew I needed. Loving all the nods to memes and also the little easter eggs like album art when you mention years. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more videos!
I know very little about cars, thank you for the thorough coverage on each manufacturer/brand. Please make more so I can go from a person who has never seen a car to someone who can talk intelligently about them.
Dude I genuinely love your videos so much. They're informative, they're funny and most importantly, the visuals are amazing. Please keep up the wonderful work
Hell yeah, I'd already finished binging the first 4 videos a couple days ago (yes, the Pig sent me). Let's go, keep it up binman. This channel primed and ready for growth.
UA-cam recommended me one of your videos, love your content
i was here before lazerpig and seeing him shouting you out was so deserved
you were a
Hi from Sydney, Australia. Your video appeared randomly as one that may potentially be of interest. AND yes it was.
Thanks for your excellent presentation and visuals for what are now super rare cars. Well done. I loved the blunt magnitude of the two Zil prototypes. I'm now 67 yrs old and on 7th September this year have been driving for 41 years a "flat-pack" sent as kit 1974 Cadillac Talisman to be built in Sydney by General Motors Holden's as right hand drive. This was the most expensive , elaborate version of a Cadillac. Made for just 3 years Talisman offered massive luxury and were powered by an almost 8.3 litre V8 engine, the introductory 1974's like mine were the most elaborate. I bought mine from the first owner, Black in color with "italian tan" (mustard color) leather interior, it looks very "official" 6 metres long and 2 metres wide it does not blend into the environment with todays little cars.
oh my GOD i’ve been waiting for anyone to tell the story of the russian manufacturers! it’s such an interesting topic and you’ve done such an amazing job at showing it! fantastic video, cant wait for more!!
Glad I discovered your channel. Love your humor.
Well, the pig sent me and I've proceeded to binge watch every one or your automotive videos all the way through. Fantastic work that's incredibly underappreciated.
Also, I'd happily wait 3 months for a video the of the same quality as the rover video or this one. The rover video was a masterpiece.
I love your Videos man, its exactly my type of humor, its funny, keep it up man
Perfect timing after all laser pig has sent a lot of people your way I was brought to you by the algorithm which works in mysterious ways but none the less I can’t wait to watch this video
These videos are amazing! You should have hundreds of thousands of subscribers!
I literally stumbled upon your channel by accident. As someone who is wholly ignorant of and not particularly interested in cars, I found this an entertaining and educational video and I crave MORE. You present the information in an easily digestible manner and your humor sprinkled throughout makes it very easy to stay invested!
Brilliant videos dude! I am hooked, feel withdrawal setting in already, ive watched all your uploads twice over with a 12 hour period..... Keep up the great work man!
Heyo Hio! I just caught up to this video. Thank you for your hard work and amazing content my dude! I'm honestly really happy to have found this place as it's rare to find youtubers that cover content about non-US or Japanese manufactures at all. Love your content, hope to see plenty more in the future! Thank you for making it and I wish you the best.
Came over from the Lazerpig invasion and I'm definitely here to stay, just about everything I've seen of you has been amazing. Keep it up!
Ive always been interested into getting into cars, but have always been kinda overwhelmed to start, this has been an EXCELLENT recommendation from the pig, loved the video and excited for more coming up!
i watched your last 6 videos on your channel. i love them all! i love your humor and way of explaining! please dont change this content!
16:35 holy shit he wasn’t lying
Now I want one
Dog, I know 80s and 70s autos are often shit, hard to maintain, have no parts and drink gas like beer, but FUCK I just love their look, their jank, and general weirdness
A man who likes cars and music! Also very nicely scripted. A great YT channel.
It's true about standing in line to buy a car. But not so drastic. Second hand market did exist and bloomed. Zaporozhets was shit tier, moskvitch was meh, and zhiguli was bmw of the time, and quite attainable to a young couple of engineers. But just like anything else in USSR it was done around official channels. Which is quite interesting by itself.
Volga was hard to obtain but doable. My grandad was a decorated war vet and he drove a volga. So you didn't have to be a marshal or whatever.
Ups to your grandad for kicking nazi ass, glad he got some compensation for his service to the world.
@@callusklaus2413 thanks. Both my grandads did, but this grandad also held order of Lenin, for his factory work stuff inventions optimizations and all. But both of them had access to special stores with tasty stuff. That's the real compensation. :)) But he got volga first hand, so thats bonus as well.
God I miss him.
I'm really enjoying your work. I love the liberal use of dry humor and snarky quips. Also, your voice has a Chris Barrie-esque quality to it that I find familiar and soothing. Keep it up.
So this video is the first time I've ever really looked at a 4102, and well, I'm with you 100% with regards to it's presence. Sinister is the perfect term for this car. I think the corner lights would have really taken away from how that car feels to look at. I doubt I ever will, but it would be really cool to see a black 4102 in person.
The more I look at the 4102 the more I like it. I'm glad I stumbled on this channel!
EXTREMELY late response but the black 4102 is no more, it got destroyed
I'm so glad the UA-cam algorithm recommended your video and channel! Very funny, very well researched and quite informative. You have gained another subscriber :)
Just found this channel and honestly it's one of the funnier things on UA-cam atm
Great songs choices, actually funny, talking about cars. Honestly a hidden gem, with the editing style and the narration I'm very surprised you only have a small subscriber count
P.S: Could you talk about Subaru and Mitsubishi in a video? Massive rallying legends with aircraft and tank manufacturing history, now reduced to making Crossovers that no-one wants? Would probably make an interesting video, and I'm sure it would be hilarious
Just binge watched everyone of your videos, cant believe the quality of this channel, exactly what ive been looking for!!!
Came because LazerPig, stayed for the quality. You make great content and it's entertaining too. Keep it up!
This dudes channel is definitely going to blow up!
Joined after the raid of your channel :)
Love your ADHD editing style and really enjoy your thoughts on the different facets of the car industry.
- a fellow ADHDer
Literally just finished watching all your other vids right before this came out. Perfect timing.
Glad Lazerpig introduced me to your channel! I love cars and history and this hits that sweet spot
Informative and very well presented... Good job and Good luck!
Wow, you just refreshed my childhood memories of late 90s when I saw these Volga concepts in dad's auto magazines reports from local auto shows, wondering when I would see them on the streets instead of those 24s from 80s
Your work is superb, thank you ❤
I'm here cuz of Lazerpig but omg your content is fun to listen to, it's funny, entertaining, great learning value and your voice is great to listen to 👍🏻 Keep making the great content
Electrically adjustable seats, stereo are all fine, but to kill the competition you need to fit an analog clock in your car.
16:36
I actually quoted the "MY EYES!!!" joke from spongebob before it came on screen. It's kind of scary that our senses of humor coalesced at that point.
Also, with regards to the Later Gaz 13/14 and the earlier ZIL models, they definitely both possess that whole "slap the right badge and you could sell it here in America easily" styling vibe that a lot of EU/JDM/AUS market only cars seem to have in spades.
You finnaly getting recognitions and more subscribers is the greatest plot twist, i was shocked that you weren't a huge channel with such quality
Keep going you're great !
Didn't find your channel through LazerPig, but through this randomly recommended video alone would consider you one of the best video essay youtubers I'll have the pleasure of watching as you hopefully continue to create this amazing content!! Keep it up, your 5K... I mean... 14K subs are ready for more!
babe wake up, intergalactic binman just posted!
edit: ive been following since the Mazda video so I feel special to be here before you blew up!
16:23
I actually kind of like the Aztec, so as I'm already brain dead, I'll probably be fine.
...Is what I said before I saw it, and am now cleaning up my own vomit.
Interestingly, the Gaz 3106 at 16:47 gives me some Mitsuoka Orochi vibes on the front, that's... Interesting!
Anyway, very good videos, i just discovered your channel and i'm binge watching everything ! As an obscure car enjoyer, I really love your channel (and your humour is awesome)
What interesting video and well researched and informative! As a car nut - I love anything quirky and strange. I was aware of Gaz and Zil so it’s great to hear more.
Glad LP put your name out there, good content like this deserves to be seen. Keep it up, dude.
Every once in a while you just find an absolute hidden gem of a youtube channel. Superb content please keep it up!
Where has this channel been all my life? Your videos are awesome
Same think sort of happened to Tatra. They made one model post soviet into the late 90s which actually was a pretty good luxury car, and then only produced trucks from then on.
They inspired Ferdinand Porsche to make a Beetle, then Austrian painter took Czechoslovakia, and in 2008 grandson greenlight software for Diesel Gate.
@@mateuszzimon8216 "Inspired" is an insulting way of saying _half of the world is now dreaming about a ride in a sportscar, made around a _*_stolen_*_ drivetrain design._ But "dead can't sue", so it seems okay for most of the masses.
@@jayswarrow1196
"Tatra sued Porsche for damages, and Porsche was willing to settle. But Hitler cancelled this, saying he "would settle the matter".[1] Soon after Germany occupied the Sudetenland, Tatra stopped production of the Type 97 and the lawsuit was discontinued. After the Second World War Tatra resumed its lawsuit. In 1965 Volkswagen settled it by paying Tatra DM 1,000,000 in compensation.[11]"
I know reasearch is hard
Finishing a comprehensive history of Soviet bangers with a random a death threat… I like the cut of your jib.
Oi I actually own ZAZ Tavria. Glad to see it mentioned!
Yep,the Pig sent me too.
Your channel is great!Intersting informative and fu all rolled into one great big ball!The Pig has surprisingly good taste.
Subbed.
LazerPig is right, this is some quality content... 😗👌
Love your videos man got one recently on my recommended page, hope you keep growing
Just found this video and my hyperfixation on weird cars was piqued.
I'd love to see a dive on the DDR's Rovomobil or Melkus RS1000 also from DDR. Or one from my home FSO Syrena Sport.
ex-Warsaw Pact Sports car concepts are definitely a strange thing to witness.
Also cool story on Ghost of Belgrade
Comrade, the memes are strong like kvass and the content is entertaining like hand grenade. Great video. Will watch more for sure.
Laser pig sent me here and he wasn’t wrong
I showed up at the behest of the pig God. I subscribe because your work is phenomenal.
As Gaz-31029 owner say,pretty good and interesting for considering opinions about the Russian car industry not around lada's) As I read the history of the Volga, the gas engineers had enough ideas and solutions for them, but the soviet government simply did not allow "radically different" cars to be made. Keep it up)
How good is your gaz 31029
@@RedBird7 pretty good old Soviet car, it middle between old classic volgas and more modern models. In fact 31029 it's 2410 and early 3102 but much cheaper and with very bad quality from factory. I like it, more comfortable and interesting than old ladas
absolutely world class vid about this topic, earned a sub and a super thanks when you make them available
Great storytelling, history they don't teach you in school, and death threats to continue watching. Please sir, can I have some more?
Sick channel man! Glad you got a shout out and I found this.
"Pontiac Astro levels of cosmic hideous"
Fools, I'm a fan of that vehicle, I'm *immune*
Edit: I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THAT
Hey, you've jumped from 5k to 24k subs. Congrats!
I found your channel because of LazerPig, but as a car guy, and a history nerd, I love your content. Definitely one of the most interesting channels I've seen in a while
I have watched all your videos on cars, they are all really good, I can't wait for the next one!
Yooooooooo.
Lazerpig sent me
So glad that Lazerpig directed me to your channel. Already decided that I love this channel. Car history done with the same level of entertainment and humor as Lazerpig? Sign me the fuck up!
As a Russian guy myself, to say that i am impressed by the fact that someone foreign man is digging through history of soviet cars with such interest and compassion - would mean nothing. Liked it a lot!
And yeah, we do get lemons, a lot...
He's not foreign, he just pretends to be one, to suck up to EU.