Moto GP 19 bike is to planted. Moto GP 20 bike handles like a real real bike would if you push to hard out of corners. Those that complain about wobble on 20 need to do some homework on how a motorbike handles when you push to much. Look at real Moto gp and watch how the bike handles when there to agressive on cornering and exit.
In all the real life racing I’ve done, I don’t think I’ve ever had the rear step out on me like it does here. I’m talking about random oversteer mid corner when not under throttle. Reminds me of the first Isle of Man game physics. Just weird. And let’s be honest. At this point with the sound of the bikes, I’m guessing literally no one from Milestone has ever heard a GP bike before. It’s laughable
It is pretty exaggerated. However at this caliber of racing, the rear stepping out would be more common than any street rider would ever experience. Our “real life racing” is hardly comparable to what any professional racer does.
@@Talisayin The game is manipulating throttle input a ton though such that it's allowing this to happen but also such they saving is way easier than it is irl. But the alternative of realistic throttle like in gp-bikes is way more difficult and if they went that route the game would be too hardcore for most.
I didn't play MotoGP20 yet. But i like almost everything in 2019, with minors mods from 2020: asphalt color, braking, wet physics, some darker areas, and offcourse, sounds. Still sucks in 2020 =P
@@zero989898 Sounds were great in 19 what are you all on about. All the bikes sound very different and just like the real bikes. They sound a little better in 20 but there is that weird wobble and hesitation when the revs build but it must be a bug.
@@marisgertans2438 It's because it was made with Unreal Engine and looks more Realistic. I think that the real wheel doesn't have any particular problem,but you have to handle it like in real life. You must brake smooth with the front and touch a little bit the real to maintain a balance and not to crash.
Great comparison. I like the look of MGP20 a bit more though. 19 isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination but due to the brightness in 19 the colors look washed out in areas. There's much better color saturation in 20 with richer blacks and I like the way the details pop more. It also helps that 20 is running at 60FPS but 19 is running at 30(?) or something under 60.
mguarin912 watch real Moto GP racing and watch what happens to the bike when there aggressive into corners and exiting corners Moto GP 20 handles like a bike should 19 bike is to planted.
@@Steve200300 WhilsT I agree that the real bikes move around quite a bit I think Moto GP 20 has overdone it by far with the bikes looking like they're on a motocross track at times. The movement on the Moto GP 20 2 stroke 500's is laughable imo. They need to tone it down a tad
The turning in this game is just completely different to motogp 19, keep turning too early or too late.... also the acceleration out of some corners is weird, almost like the bike doesn't want to, anyone having same issues?
i had this problem in motogp19....so unpredictable in breaking and steering, impossible to get a real feeling for....in the video it looks a bit better in gp20 but i keep sceptical...
Same here, bikes are freaking weak, high rev or nothing haha, braking is too weird to compare to 19, have to braking at a very perfect point or bike goes wrong Feel like this is combine between moto gp 17 and 19 but more electric control
@JawDropper damn, and as i check Its my country region on steam that sale 15$ (maybe cuz my country is a developed countryand have most motogp fan ) 😂on usa europe its 50$.
Certainly there are positives from gp20. I like how kerbs don't send you flying off your bike anymore, how the smooth the gearbox feels when downshifting and the bike physics especially when "sliding" into corners. Gameplay wise I think it's a pretty solid experience and I've been having loads of fun in online lobbies. However I wished they'd spend more time on the rider animations, GP 19 imo had some pretty solid rider animations and I'm not sure why it wasn't carried forward onto 20. I'm noticing the feet of riders clipping through the ground on max lean and it bugs the hell out of me. The riders look too big for the bikes in moto 2 and 3, wish the riders had a more personalized profile like in FIFA where they have different heights and builds instead of just using one default model. Wished they'd let us use our own liveries online too, that'd be pretty cool ! These are some details that would totally take this game from a solid 5.5 to maybe an 8/10 experience for me.
I’m enjoying 20 but I really think it’s a step backwards from 19. The handling just isn’t right. 19 I feel far more in control knowing if the bike does something it’s because I made it... wheel spin, brake slides backing it into a corner, setting it up for the perfect line through a corner & being able to perfectly hold that line & pull out of it fine tuning the amount of wheel spin to steer out. 20 just feels unbalanced, literally! The bike wants to tip forward on breaking or weave unrealistically mid corner & on exit as if there’s no weight on the real wheel at all! I get that a new handling model takes time to get used to but the floaty sliding nature feels a bit arcade like at this point. The riders look way too big for the bikes for some reason too, particularly Moto2. I think it’s great they got it out as early as they did but it still needs some work which I’m looking forward to seeing patched in soon hopefully. 🤞🏼
I was having the same issues I found that unbinding the weight forward and the weight backward buttons makes the bike more stable coming out and going in to turns.
@@mattsmith8850 it will just make it auto tuck in itself unbinding them, they've implemented to much wobble see what you think about and put it back if it doesn't work for you. I can deal with the learning curve I over came the pro handling in 19 this will take a bit aswell.
"TT Isle of Man Ride The Edge 2" has far better sounding machines. Also, GP20 is DEFINITELY too dark with no way (that I could find in my 10 minutes of playing) to make it brighter.
The physics is spot on or really close in GP20,when you think about it.if you go 300+ kph and you brake full-on like you do in game the rear will come up,and if you open the throttle wham full open mid-corner like in the game with a 250+ bhp bike your sure to go flying. another note on pc you just set the gamma to your liking
I just don't get why they made riders look and feel too big for the bikes. Bikes seem very narrow, too. You can literally see how riders' elbows clip through their knees lol...
The only upgrade from 19 to 20 I consider good is the bike and racer scale. In 19, the bike seems bigger and the racer is smaller, even for tall person like vr46 gp19 is really off in term of realistic scale. You can see how small vr46 in gp19 is LOL. While gp20 have corrected the bike and racer scale, they finally realized in real world moto3, moto2, and motogp is not really that big motorcycle. They've resize the bike and made the racer bigger and taller.
Don’t like the tails on 20 ,way to small Back wheel coming up from the floor every time ,also bike getting out of shape on corner exit. U don’t see this in MotoGP real life ,there smooth .. Great vid👌🏻👍🏻
2nd year of playing & I've found some nice touches here and there, but feel i need to play it more, it's too early to judge as all new games that come out need patching whether we like it or not. Besides you don't HAVE to pay £49 for it.
I must say that I am VERY dissapointed at Milestone for this year game In comparison of MotoGP 19, this is downgrade *Short review from my side (rating from good things to bad things):* -Managerial career, good -New exhaust sound when lifting off throttle, good -Kerbs are much better, good -AI not losing pace when you overtake them, better ^That's all positive things -Graphics, equal -Physics (braking-worser and unreal, wobbling-MUCH MUCH worser and unreal, moving bike left and right-hell a lot worser and unreal) overall MUCH WORSER -Driver animation, worser -AI still letting you throught now even on straights, worser -AI still static (always same guys on top), bad -Replay camera still the same (no new camera angles and such like helicam), bad -No rider faces anymore, worser Now more detailed review: About positive things it's all clear. Now about *Physics*: Your bike is wild in this game, new braking system is too unreal, yes there should be some rear wheel lifting off ground in hard braking zones, but in this game it's embarassing, even on little braking your bike will want to flip forward Now about wobbling i don't even need to commentate on that, it's comical how unreal it is, in MotoGP 19 they did amazing job, they just needed to smooth that and make little less wobbling, but no they downgraded that physics to the level of really old versions of MotoGP You can clearly see how faster turning with the bike is compared to Motogp 19 version. They did again awesome job about left-right switching, like in real life, you can't instant turn your bike. But in Motogp 20 they screwed that and it just don't feel realistic anymore Also thing to mention: For some reason if you move bike a little on the straights you will lose small amount of speed (from 1-5 km/h), instead of just accelerating to the max top speed, which is also unreal because you still gain speed even if you are turning little bit in real life. Now about *Driver animation* Rider animations were much better in 19, as they were detailed and really felt like you driving that bike honestly, it gave that really good experience, like downshifting, moving fingers to brake and such, while in 20 it's static, no animations of that kind of things and also it looks ugly because rider is huge compared to bike in this version of game *AI* AI is bad, literally same as in 19 which is not good, it is too passive, like if you go down the inside they will just straighten the bike and let you throught. Also they will lift throttle when you passing near them on straights which was the problem back in 17 and 18 game if im correctly, they fixed it in 19 but now they got back that in 20 *Replay camera* Nothing changed there, and in my opinion that's bad thing because in 19 replays were not good, rider switching is weird because it depends based on where who finished the race instead of current positions on track during replay. I expected helicam or little better camera shots but no.. Also to mention that there is some bugs like riders randomly turning back to see where you are, even during taking the corners which is so unreal. This is my personal review, and i find MotoGP 19 much more enjoyable and realistic than MotoGP 20 I really hope they will fix those things, because game is feeling like it's unfinished really.
@@rudolfschoggers639 I need yo note one more thing This is how bike is behaving ON PRO physics settings On the normal settings it is much better This is probably first time since motogp 14 that i will switch from pro physics settings to normal
@@rudolfschoggers639 Also i forgot to say that if you fall with bike you will need time to reapawn it which is good thing and if you (or ai) make big contact the driver animation will be like he is angry ( he will give hand up or shake head) which is also good thing but it ia not crucial loke above
I like the 2019 better. You can't share stickers on 20 to build helmets, numbers and rider stickers. If you want those you have to build everything yourself. I bought the game, tried it but didn't play much. Wasn't worth starting a new career and doing the same thing on 20 that I already completed on 19.
The main thing thats frustrating me about gp20 is that no matter how gentle you are with the throttle, no matter what setting anti-wheelie you're in,, anytime you get on the power, the bike instantly pops up on the back wheel..
I hate the speed of flick flack in motogp19, so I’m pleased if they’ve addressed that, however, I know what to expect from milestone and their after sales support, their PS4 ports are always shonky, with glitching, complete frame rate STOPS mid-race and various other faults and issues that never get addressed, so I’ll wait till Christmas and let a relative buy ‘20 for me. I ain’t wasting my money.
I have Moto gp 19 and the bike and rider looks so clean and crisp but as you go away a little bit things get blurry fast(i have the blur effect off). They just over did the effect.. The brakes don't stop but that could be me. Over all I enjoy the games since 08.
Glad to see they finally bumped it up to 60 FPS on higher end consoles. I usually play on pc but I might consider getting it on PS4 Pro after seeing this
I was about to comment saying you missed Husqvarna in the bike comparison part, but then I remembered they didn't take part in the '19 season :') could we possibly see a bike/rider breakdown like you did with IOM TT? I know it's only gonna be the riders confirmed for the 2020 'season' but it'd be nice to see how well they've been recreated in game and your thoughts on it :)
I think there's something weird with his gameplay settings maybe because it really doesnt look that dark in these gameplays ua-cam.com/video/d-t6cmNo0Mg/v-deo.html
I think HDR is broken, I had to turn HDR off in the ps4 settings and restart the game to fix the picture brightness. Its even worse on pc in HDR. ROBO you should try turning HDR off in your xbox settings.
It is darker, but it's nothing Reshade can't fix. I like the new rider animations. They look more realistic and complete, especially when coming out of a corner and the rider gets back on the bike.
@@ROBO46 Just tried the game. It's not as dark as shown in the video. It's the same as 19. No idea why it's so dark in your video. Other than that....i think 19 is better. 20 needs patching....a LOT of patching. Bike oversteers for no reason... even you return from lean to straight it oversteers. Then understeers for no reason.... As for the rear wheel lifting up, my solution was to pick assisted mode in simulation physics. With all assists turned off, the only thing it does is it adds the antistoppie assist. But it still allows for a little bit of rear wheel lift, which is acceptable. Still it lacks any rear wheel sliding when downshifting under braking.Backing it in as it's called. It worked so nicely in 17 and Ride 2.
Sadly we're all saying that since Motogp 17... Three years and three games released later and still no big improvement. I think we can just lose hope in improvements. I just started hoping that Codemasters will buy the Motogp licence and so Milestone will get out of this.
I've never played either, but I have raced plenty for real. The rear step out on 20 in the rain, if I were there for real I'd be back to the pits after the warm-up lap. It looks terrible. I'd also be keen to know how Vale can change gears with his leg dangling, but anyway...
To all these people moaning about wobble on GP 20 that’s how a real bike would handle if your to aggressive into corners and exiting corners. Watch real life Moto gp and you will see. Moto gp 19 bike is to planted.
19 seems brighter alright but also washed up like colors. there may be some color settings evolved for contrast and/or gamma. Sfx in both are not that good... The most important for me though is if any excels in the physics department or both feel the same.
Yeah motogp20 does look a lot darker and it looks like its a bit harder to control, a lot more of back wheel wobbling but im sure its just a matter of getting used to it. Anyway, All the best with it & the best of luck.
Motogp20 is a lot more realistic, because if u dont modulate the brake, and keep max brake pressure, the rear wheel will come up, just like in real life. When accelerating out of corner u have to slowly increase the throttle and pick up the bike and dont lean max angle while accelerating to be smooth, just like in real life.
Hi Robo - Based on your demo of the Ducati @ Phillip Island in the WET - the behavior of the rear end is not acceptable for us who just want to enjoy racing the bikes & completing the historical challenges...Should we have the TC on Max or will Milestone release a "recommended wet setup" for every circuit???
Alex Khalif that was with TCS on maximum, but also that was literally my first lap in the wet on thins game, I’m sure with a bit more practice I can stop the rear stepping out so much
i play back on 2016 i think motogp 14 and i like it so much now i'm back but i want to play it again but without realism i want to enjoy arcade style i play Ride 4 and i delete it bcz of realism it too much hard to drive after a long day i want just to turn on my to enjoy i can't waste a lot of time hard try like it's a thing i do in my real life any suggestion in this case? btw thank u for the vid, i enjoy more the darker look of motogp 20 but it look over saturated and motogp19 it will kill my eyes if i play it like that it's too much brighter than it should be that's why i hate unreal engine .
I dont know why dont they improve massively in 2020 too .. They just copy cat the previous versions with just minor bike tweaks and graphics visibility .. Nothing to boast. . just to sit relax and go in the corner .. Even 2020 goes far lesser even in graphics and sounds too ..
With all the contracts being up this year and a lot of riders expected to move to different bikes for next year, this will look outdated very soon. May as well wait for MotoGP 21.
Chef Boyard I believe that many guys in here are not a noob, when they were talking about their impressions, it was true. I have played motogp since the motogp13, I hornestly admit that the throttle is truly bad
So all they have done is darken the track and made the sky more blue another 50 quid ..... no thanks I don't have any of the games but still not worth it there is no diff
Not being funny but the bike moving around more under acceleration and braking it what happens in the real world. So moto GP 20 looks like a massive improvement as 19 just felt stale on the traction front.
i knew this was going to happen.... the mix between gp19/gp20..... should be a great game in 2021. why i said il wait for gp21 on ps5. cause the bike is moving around wayyyyy to much on gp20, even moto3 the rear stepped out alot. why gp06/07 was a awesome game... cause the bugs got worked out and it was worth playing. down side was the computer was no challenge at all so id race myself. but you'll still have fun with gp20. i wont be on it though. gp19 is great enough tell 2021 game. gp18 sucked!!! dam pot holes on the tracks??!! lolol crash in a straight line
Your HDR is bugged in motogp 20, I had the same issue when I first time started the game, but then I made comparations with the screenshots and other videos on youtube, and it was obvious that there is a problem. So I tried to switch the HDR on and off, play with the settings, and at some point it went to normal, bright picture as it was in 2019 game.
Diablo_rf I had to do the same. There’s definitely some bug/issue with the game whilst having HDR enabled. My brother loaded it up on his standard PS4 on a 1080 monitor and was perfectly fine. I loaded the game on my 4K TV with HDR enabled and it was so dark.. I spent ages adjusting the settings to get it bright like the Milestone gameplays.
@@ellg9519 I hope you made the HDR work as it should, and not adjust the colors of your screen or something of that type, because that is a bad decision...=)
Its a step back, graphics are worse, physics are worse. They didnt even put in the new bike models of half of the teams, also the rider portraits... i am dissapointed so far
One more thing about the braking in GP20 that its almost impossible to fall down even pulling as hard as F*** in corner, but super easy to crash when get in touch with other bikes hahah what a logical. you can not feel the bike when pulling brake too much, feels like its electric controllers doing everything
It seems like weight transition doesn't work properly in 20, moving weight the rear especially and bikes all feel like they have all the weight forward. Always stoppies and rear spinning everywhere. Moving the stick all the way back with antiwheelie off makes no difference at all, and bikes never wheelie.
Rear wheel wobble is getting comical at this point lol
I have stiffened up the front suspension forks and everything even tried a smaller brake disc and it still didn't stop the rear end coming up
The erratic wobble is the main issue that is keeping from getting this game.
Really i have the 2020 game and the woblleling is not an issue for. It only happens when the tyres wear is decresing or it doesn't grip
Moto GP 19 bike is to planted. Moto GP 20 bike handles like a real real bike would if you push to hard out of corners. Those that complain about wobble on 20 need to do some homework on how a motorbike handles when you push to much. Look at real Moto gp and watch how the bike handles when there to agressive on cornering and exit.
@@Steve200300 Dont take this to seriously.
In all the real life racing I’ve done, I don’t think I’ve ever had the rear step out on me like it does here. I’m talking about random oversteer mid corner when not under throttle. Reminds me of the first Isle of Man game physics. Just weird.
And let’s be honest. At this point with the sound of the bikes, I’m guessing literally no one from Milestone has ever heard a GP bike before. It’s laughable
Very strange because here in italy the people loves bikes and moto gp , how come they cannot done a realistic sound?
It is pretty exaggerated. However at this caliber of racing, the rear stepping out would be more common than any street rider would ever experience. Our “real life racing” is hardly comparable to what any professional racer does.
@@Talisayin The game is manipulating throttle input a ton though such that it's allowing this to happen but also such they saving is way easier than it is irl. But the alternative of realistic throttle like in gp-bikes is way more difficult and if they went that route the game would be too hardcore for most.
JR Hayden of course if I hadn’t raced supersports for 20 years I’d agree with you.
Barters81 Lol, riding around a mountain pass doesn’t count my friend. If you have professional experience under an organization then sure.
Game is really good but why cant they make bike sounds better. Everything else is great
I didn't play MotoGP20 yet. But i like almost everything in 2019, with minors mods from 2020: asphalt color, braking, wet physics, some darker areas, and offcourse, sounds. Still sucks in 2020 =P
@Samuel Peddle The MotoGP grid has individual sounding engines so at least there's that.
i have made some difference too,
ua-cam.com/video/mmG6z6-bqVY/v-deo.html
check this out
rain gameplay
just compare with real sounds (easy to find in youtube). nowadays moto sounds are like that.
@@zero989898 Sounds were great in 19 what are you all on about. All the bikes sound very different and just like the real bikes. They sound a little better in 20 but there is that weird wobble and hesitation when the revs build but it must be a bug.
I think GP19 Had it hang on, 20 looks too dark, rear wheels problems and tire slide , plus 19 looks better
It is not so dark (just wrong settings), and respawn after a crash in Moto19 was way too soon. This year it is much better.
@@marisgertans2438 It's because it was made with Unreal Engine and looks more Realistic. I think that the real wheel doesn't have any particular problem,but you have to handle it like in real life. You must brake smooth with the front and touch a little bit the real to maintain a balance and not to crash.
19 was too easy I could dominate on 120 and so far on 20 I am struggling at 65 ai in Moto 2.
i think soooooo~
@@chrispaschalis6770 motogp 19 also use Unreal Engine, same for motogp 18.
Finally they've added these popping sound during shifting and when you close the throttle. That's one key feature of sound I always missed.
yea like on my R6 and backfires
I think 19 really does look better. Crazy! Aside from manager mode and custom liveries again I think I’ll stick with 19 until a major sale.
MotoGP 20: the bike shaker simulator.
I like the fact that motogp20 feels like the bike moves much faster. I would prefer they made the track bigger instead of slowing the bikes down
I’m pretty sure something to do with the HDR is screwed up in 20, which is why it looks so much darker on this comparison.
Great comparison. I like the look of MGP20 a bit more though. 19 isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination but due to the brightness in 19 the colors look washed out in areas. There's much better color saturation in 20 with richer blacks and I like the way the details pop more. It also helps that 20 is running at 60FPS but 19 is running at 30(?) or something under 60.
To me it looks like reality on the left and a game on the right.
@@RJ-cq8dd yep 19 graphics looks to realty, 20 graphics also good, but more to game graphics
Seems a bit unrealistic with the rear stepping out in every turn on MotoGP. Great video! Thank you!
mguarin912 watch real Moto GP racing and watch what happens to the bike when there aggressive into corners and exiting corners Moto GP 20 handles like a bike should 19 bike is to planted.
@@Steve200300 WhilsT I agree that the real bikes move around quite a bit I think Moto GP 20 has overdone it by far with the bikes looking like they're on a motocross track at times. The movement on the Moto GP 20 2 stroke 500's is laughable imo. They need to tone it down a tad
The turning in this game is just completely different to motogp 19, keep turning too early or too late.... also the acceleration out of some corners is weird, almost like the bike doesn't want to, anyone having same issues?
i had this problem in motogp19....so unpredictable in breaking and steering, impossible to get a real feeling for....in the video it looks a bit better in gp20 but i keep sceptical...
Same here, bikes are freaking weak, high rev or nothing haha, braking is too weird to compare to 19, have to braking at a very perfect point or bike goes wrong
Feel like this is combine between moto gp 17 and 19 but more electric control
I had the same issue, and turning the tc off solved it
Traction control, turn it off and it does help a fair bit
I'll stick with 19 until they sort out the handling on 20. No way in hell would I drop £50 on that slippery mess.
Thats so expensive
Ps4?
For pc it just 15$
@JawDropper damn, and as i check
Its my country region on steam that sale 15$ (maybe cuz my country is a developed countryand have most motogp fan ) 😂on usa europe its 50$.
Certainly there are positives from gp20. I like how kerbs don't send you flying off your bike anymore, how the smooth the gearbox feels when downshifting and the bike physics especially when "sliding" into corners. Gameplay wise I think it's a pretty solid experience and I've been having loads of fun in online lobbies. However I wished they'd spend more time on the rider animations, GP 19 imo had some pretty solid rider animations and I'm not sure why it wasn't carried forward onto 20. I'm noticing the feet of riders clipping through the ground on max lean and it bugs the hell out of me. The riders look too big for the bikes in moto 2 and 3, wish the riders had a more personalized profile like in FIFA where they have different heights and builds instead of just using one default model. Wished they'd let us use our own liveries online too, that'd be pretty cool ! These are some details that would totally take this game from a solid 5.5 to maybe an 8/10 experience for me.
I’m enjoying 20 but I really think it’s a step backwards from 19. The handling just isn’t right. 19 I feel far more in control knowing if the bike does something it’s because I made it... wheel spin, brake slides backing it into a corner, setting it up for the perfect line through a corner & being able to perfectly hold that line & pull out of it fine tuning the amount of wheel spin to steer out. 20 just feels unbalanced, literally! The bike wants to tip forward on breaking or weave unrealistically mid corner & on exit as if there’s no weight on the real wheel at all! I get that a new handling model takes time to get used to but the floaty sliding nature feels a bit arcade like at this point. The riders look way too big for the bikes for some reason too, particularly Moto2. I think it’s great they got it out as early as they did but it still needs some work which I’m looking forward to seeing patched in soon hopefully. 🤞🏼
I was having the same issues I found that unbinding the weight forward and the weight backward buttons makes the bike more stable coming out and going in to turns.
Jesus Loera So not having the riders weight bound to the left stick & leaving it unbound?
@@mattsmith8850 it will just make it auto tuck in itself unbinding them, they've implemented to much wobble see what you think about and put it back if it doesn't work for you. I can deal with the learning curve I over came the pro handling in 19 this will take a bit aswell.
Jesus Loera Thanks mate, I’ll give it a go when I’m back on the big bikes... concentrating on career atm so not such an issue with the 250’s 👍🏼
"TT Isle of Man Ride The Edge 2" has far better sounding machines. Also, GP20 is DEFINITELY too dark with no way (that I could find in my 10 minutes of playing) to make it brighter.
Is dark because you look at the sdr version, you must play in hdr mode with a high end hdr tv /monitor
The physics is spot on or really close in GP20,when you think about it.if you go 300+ kph and you brake full-on like you do in game the rear will come up,and if you open the throttle wham full open mid-corner like in the game with a 250+ bhp bike your sure to go flying. another note on pc you just set the gamma to your liking
Great video. I’ve decided to wait until 20 is on sale for cheap and hope they resolved the rear coming up and stepping out all the time.
Currently £17.49 on CD keys if you're in the UK!
It’s in Xbox game pass
I think Motogp 19 is more realistic drivewise
I agreed
I don't know why they decided to make moto 20 look so dim. Looks like it's about to piss down constantly
Idk I think he has some strange brightness setting because mine dosen't look like that at all, in some weather condition yes but not all the time.
@@rall172 It's to do with the HDR in the new game.
I just don't get why they made riders look and feel too big for the bikes. Bikes seem very narrow, too. You can literally see how riders' elbows clip through their knees lol...
The only upgrade from 19 to 20 I consider good is the bike and racer scale. In 19, the bike seems bigger and the racer is smaller, even for tall person like vr46 gp19 is really off in term of realistic scale. You can see how small vr46 in gp19 is LOL.
While gp20 have corrected the bike and racer scale, they finally realized in real world moto3, moto2, and motogp is not really that big motorcycle. They've resize the bike and made the racer bigger and taller.
Leather looks better in wet, in '19. More details, better texturez. But, also in rain, everything else looks better in '20.
Spot on comparison . definitely direction changes are quicker
Don’t like the tails on 20 ,way to small
Back wheel coming up from the floor every time ,also bike getting out of shape on corner exit.
U don’t see this in MotoGP real life ,there smooth ..
Great vid👌🏻👍🏻
It's small cause the 20 Yamaha have a tail more small than 19
You have to ride smooth. Don't brake as hard, don't go WOT at once
@@Jajeweet yeah that's what people don't understand but you are absolutely right
Ja jeweet ive tried riding smooth, smooth on brakes smooth on throttle well it does actually work.
@@luis-gk9ri is it wrong ??
2nd year of playing & I've found some nice touches here and there, but feel i need to play it more, it's too early to judge as all new games that come out need patching whether we like it or not. Besides you don't HAVE to pay £49 for it.
Between motogp 20 & 21 & 22, the winner is motogp 19! 🏆
Finally, comparsion :D
I must say that I am VERY dissapointed at Milestone for this year game
In comparison of MotoGP 19, this is downgrade
*Short review from my side (rating from good things to bad things):*
-Managerial career, good
-New exhaust sound when lifting off throttle, good
-Kerbs are much better, good
-AI not losing pace when you overtake them, better
^That's all positive things
-Graphics, equal
-Physics (braking-worser and unreal, wobbling-MUCH MUCH worser and unreal, moving bike left and right-hell a lot worser and unreal) overall MUCH WORSER
-Driver animation, worser
-AI still letting you throught now even on straights, worser
-AI still static (always same guys on top), bad
-Replay camera still the same (no new camera angles and such like helicam), bad
-No rider faces anymore, worser
Now more detailed review:
About positive things it's all clear.
Now about *Physics*:
Your bike is wild in this game, new braking system is too unreal, yes there should be some rear wheel lifting off ground in hard braking zones, but in this game it's embarassing, even on little braking your bike will want to flip forward
Now about wobbling i don't even need to commentate on that, it's comical how unreal it is, in MotoGP 19 they did amazing job, they just needed to smooth that and make little less wobbling, but no they downgraded that physics to the level of really old versions of MotoGP
You can clearly see how faster turning with the bike is compared to Motogp 19 version. They did again awesome job about left-right switching, like in real life, you can't instant turn your bike. But in Motogp 20 they screwed that and it just don't feel realistic anymore
Also thing to mention: For some reason if you move bike a little on the straights you will lose small amount of speed (from 1-5 km/h), instead of just accelerating to the max top speed, which is also unreal because you still gain speed even if you are turning little bit in real life.
Now about *Driver animation*
Rider animations were much better in 19, as they were detailed and really felt like you driving that bike honestly, it gave that really good experience, like downshifting, moving fingers to brake and such, while in 20 it's static, no animations of that kind of things and also it looks ugly because rider is huge compared to bike in this version of game
*AI*
AI is bad, literally same as in 19 which is not good, it is too passive, like if you go down the inside they will just straighten the bike and let you throught. Also they will lift throttle when you passing near them on straights which was the problem back in 17 and 18 game if im correctly, they fixed it in 19 but now they got back that in 20
*Replay camera*
Nothing changed there, and in my opinion that's bad thing because in 19 replays were not good, rider switching is weird because it depends based on where who finished the race instead of current positions on track during replay. I expected helicam or little better camera shots but no..
Also to mention that there is some bugs like riders randomly turning back to see where you are, even during taking the corners which is so unreal.
This is my personal review, and i find MotoGP 19 much more enjoyable and realistic than MotoGP 20
I really hope they will fix those things, because game is feeling like it's unfinished really.
thanks for share ,it help me to choose which one I should buy
@@rudolfschoggers639 I need yo note one more thing
This is how bike is behaving ON PRO physics settings
On the normal settings it is much better
This is probably first time since motogp 14 that i will switch from pro physics settings to normal
@@rudolfschoggers639 Also i forgot to say that if you fall with bike you will need time to reapawn it which is good thing and if you (or ai) make big contact the driver animation will be like he is angry ( he will give hand up or shake head) which is also good thing but it ia not crucial loke above
I like the 2019 better. You can't share stickers on 20 to build helmets, numbers and rider stickers. If you want those you have to build everything yourself. I bought the game, tried it but didn't play much. Wasn't worth starting a new career and doing the same thing on 20 that I already completed on 19.
@@ric6843 In 20 it is little better to play career as you have custom teams but yeah.. its not enjoyable to play
It weird, official KTM leather looks really better in darker 2020: orange in amazing. That color losses in 2019.
Your son is horrible
motogp 20's engine sounds weird lol. especially the moto2
Like wobbly and not smoothly revving up? Hopefully a bug that gets patched. Just like weight transition not working properly.
Good comparison, as stated by others - The rear wheel sliding is just insane.... even on the slower bikes
19 is better, thank you
The main thing thats frustrating me about gp20 is that no matter how gentle you are with the throttle, no matter what setting anti-wheelie you're in,, anytime you get on the power, the bike instantly pops up on the back wheel..
Motogp19 looks so much more alive
Motogp20 looks more cinematic
I hate the speed of flick flack in motogp19, so I’m pleased if they’ve addressed that, however, I know what to expect from milestone and their after sales support, their PS4 ports are always shonky, with glitching, complete frame rate STOPS mid-race and various other faults and issues that never get addressed, so I’ll wait till Christmas and let a relative buy ‘20 for me. I ain’t wasting my money.
I'll stick with 19. It looks better and the back side slip in 20 looks absurd.
I have Moto gp 19 and the bike and rider looks so clean and crisp but as you go away a little bit things get blurry fast(i have the blur effect off). They just over did the effect.. The brakes don't stop but that could be me. Over all I enjoy the games since 08.
Still don't understand why they can't animate the riders left foot for up shift and downshift... Throws me off not seeing that
It is there mate just very subtle
@@ROBO46 it's too Suttle then lol
The graphics of MGP19 are more realistic in terms of brightness and textures.
Glad to see they finally bumped it up to 60 FPS on higher end consoles. I usually play on pc but I might consider getting it on PS4 Pro after seeing this
They need a Ride 4 that lets you roam the city. Just gonna stick to Crew 2 and the lack of bikes
Yeah could do with a free roam mode on Ride 4 as long as it’s not like TTIOM2 free roam
We need THQ👌 still best till now
The video everyone has been waiting for
GP20 has its perks, but it's much too sensitive imo. It's going to be awhile until I get a handle on this game.
All I wanted was Kymi Ring for 2019.
Don’t know if this was asked already; but, did you adjust the video setting for MotoGP20? It looks awfully dark.
I was about to comment saying you missed Husqvarna in the bike comparison part, but then I remembered they didn't take part in the '19 season :') could we possibly see a bike/rider breakdown like you did with IOM TT? I know it's only gonna be the riders confirmed for the 2020 'season' but it'd be nice to see how well they've been recreated in game and your thoughts on it :)
I might do that once they’ve update the liveries and rider helmets 👍
@@ROBO46 Awesome! That'd be great 😃 hope you're keeping well!
Why is MotoGP 20 so dark?
My copy is on the way to me. Definitely gonna have to tinker with the brightness settings.
I think there's something weird with his gameplay settings maybe because it really doesnt look that dark in these gameplays
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Not sure why it is so dark in this video, when I play it isn't that dark, but I have it on pc
I think HDR is broken, I had to turn HDR off in the ps4 settings and restart the game to fix the picture brightness. Its even worse on pc in HDR. ROBO you should try turning HDR off in your xbox settings.
It is darker, but it's nothing Reshade can't fix. I like the new rider animations. They look more realistic and complete, especially when coming out of a corner and the rider gets back on the bike.
The nextinline yeah the rider animations are good 👍👍
@@ROBO46 Just tried the game. It's not as dark as shown in the video. It's the same as 19. No idea why it's so dark in your video. Other than that....i think 19 is better. 20 needs patching....a LOT of patching. Bike oversteers for no reason... even you return from lean to straight it oversteers. Then understeers for no reason....
As for the rear wheel lifting up, my solution was to pick assisted mode in simulation physics. With all assists turned off, the only thing it does is it adds the antistoppie assist. But it still allows for a little bit of rear wheel lift, which is acceptable.
Still it lacks any rear wheel sliding when downshifting under braking.Backing it in as it's called. It worked so nicely in 17 and Ride 2.
I think I’ll skip this, and wait for Ride 4. Hopefully MotoGP 21 will be a bigger improvement.
Sadly we're all saying that since Motogp 17... Three years and three games released later and still no big improvement. I think we can just lose hope in improvements.
I just started hoping that Codemasters will buy the Motogp licence and so Milestone will get out of this.
Manuel110 yes, it seem like a new developer needs to take it up. I do like what Milestone did but it needs a bigger move forward.
I've never played either, but I have raced plenty for real. The rear step out on 20 in the rain, if I were there for real I'd be back to the pits after the warm-up lap. It looks terrible. I'd also be keen to know how Vale can change gears with his leg dangling, but anyway...
Hi?great video.can i ask u question?do u use custom rider for your hotlaps or just pick one?is there difference?
I’m terms of gameplay they added shaders and made the rear step out more
The colors look sharper in 20 vs 19 but you are right it is not as bright
To all these people moaning about wobble on GP 20 that’s how a real bike would handle if your to aggressive into corners and exiting corners. Watch real life Moto gp and you will see. Moto gp 19 bike is to planted.
Yup.. Most of them don't really ride a bike but they criticize to something they never really experience in real life.. Very funny
To me : best handling Moto GP game , EVER : Moto GP 14
Graphic and camera motion- smoothness: MGP 20.
19 seems brighter alright but also washed up like colors. there may be some color settings evolved for contrast and/or gamma.
Sfx in both are not that good...
The most important for me though is if any excels in the physics department or both feel the same.
Yeah motogp20 does look a lot darker and it looks like its a bit harder to control, a lot more of back wheel wobbling but im sure its just a matter of getting used to it. Anyway, All the best with it & the best of luck.
Motogp20 is a lot more realistic, because if u dont modulate the brake, and keep max brake pressure, the rear wheel will come up, just like in real life. When accelerating out of corner u have to slowly increase the throttle and pick up the bike and dont lean max angle while accelerating to be smooth, just like in real life.
Hi Robo - Based on your demo of the Ducati @ Phillip Island in the WET - the behavior of the rear end is not acceptable for us who just want to enjoy racing the bikes & completing the historical challenges...Should we have the TC on Max or will Milestone release a "recommended wet setup" for every circuit???
Alex Khalif that was with TCS on maximum, but also that was literally my first lap in the wet on thins game, I’m sure with a bit more practice I can stop the rear stepping out so much
why ur image so dark in gp 20? u use hdr monitor? i have very bright image in my steam
It a bright sunny day at mugello and misano but the game is itself so dark that the bright sunny day is ruined 😕
I prefer 2019!
It would be interesting if you compared KM to KM and not KM for miles. However the video is good.
i play back on 2016 i think motogp 14 and i like it so much
now i'm back but i want to play it again but without realism i want to enjoy arcade style
i play Ride 4 and i delete it bcz of realism it too much hard to drive
after a long day i want just to turn on my to enjoy i can't waste a lot of time hard try like it's a thing i do in my real life
any suggestion in this case?
btw thank u for the vid, i enjoy more the darker look of motogp 20 but it look over saturated and motogp19 it will kill my eyes if i play it like that it's too much brighter than it should be that's why i hate unreal engine .
Are the animations or the rider in 20 more realistic?
I dont know why dont they improve massively in 2020 too .. They just copy cat the previous versions with just minor bike tweaks and graphics visibility .. Nothing to boast. . just to sit relax and go in the corner .. Even 2020 goes far lesser even in graphics and sounds too ..
With all the contracts being up this year and a lot of riders expected to move to different bikes for next year, this will look outdated very soon. May as well wait for MotoGP 21.
20’s framerate in this side by side looks smoother in this video. Is it smoother? Are both running more or less a locked 60 FPS?
I thought that too, both are running in performance mode so both at 60fps but I’m thinking 20 is more stable
you didn't do any camera changes. I wanted to see if the cockpit view was different. Was the darker even darker in the helmet?
nice video. good effort. i think, i'm stick with motogp 19.
They must give us a beta version first so we can tell them whats good,bad what can be better etc. For me its to dark in gp20🤔
Finally.... Been waiting for it.... Thanks
Looks like MotoGP17 Physics (too responsive) throttle should be more progressive not like a switch, as with braking.. worried about this one.
yes i bought yesterday 19 and 20 - in 20 steering and throttle brake Control is terrible but graphics r much better
That’s why you learn to manage and not just slam the trigger straight down
@@chefboyarb its really hard in this game......modulation is bad
Chef Boyard I believe that many guys in here are not a noob, when they were talking about their impressions, it was true. I have played motogp since the motogp13, I hornestly admit that the throttle is truly bad
@@juudaime0 Right
20 doesnt look great not just dark bit more cartoony and less details. It looks worse to play too.
The Bikes look a little bit smaller in the 2020 version
60fps at right change everything
So all they have done is darken the track and made the sky more blue another 50 quid ..... no thanks I don't have any of the games but still not worth it there is no diff
The 2019 version is better than 2020 even with several coding failures
Not being funny but the bike moving around more under acceleration and braking it what happens in the real world. So moto GP 20 looks like a massive improvement as 19 just felt stale on the traction front.
motogp 17 is the best for me
i knew this was going to happen.... the mix between gp19/gp20..... should be a great game in 2021. why i said il wait for gp21 on ps5. cause the bike is moving around wayyyyy to much on gp20, even moto3 the rear stepped out alot.
why gp06/07 was a awesome game... cause the bugs got worked out and it was worth playing. down side was the computer was no challenge at all so id race myself. but you'll still have fun with gp20. i wont be on it though. gp19 is great enough tell 2021 game. gp18 sucked!!! dam pot holes on the tracks??!! lolol crash in a straight line
Also 0tcs on Gp20 is like TCS4 on Gp19
Why has 20 got alot of the same liverys and wings as 19, like Honda, KTM, Pramac
They will be updating them beginning of May
that black tire movement in 20 looks like a pogo stick...complete no buy....i'll stick with 19
Cornering feels so quick in moto3 for me
At least they done much better the texture of the track, the previous moto gp games have that ugly grain big rocks type low resolution
Your HDR is bugged in motogp 20, I had the same issue when I first time started the game, but then I made comparations with the screenshots and other videos on youtube, and it was obvious that there is a problem. So I tried to switch the HDR on and off, play with the settings, and at some point it went to normal, bright picture as it was in 2019 game.
Diablo_rf I had to do the same. There’s definitely some bug/issue with the game whilst having HDR enabled. My brother loaded it up on his standard PS4 on a 1080 monitor and was perfectly fine. I loaded the game on my 4K TV with HDR enabled and it was so dark.. I spent ages adjusting the settings to get it bright like the Milestone gameplays.
@@ellg9519 I hope you made the HDR work as it should, and not adjust the colors of your screen or something of that type, because that is a bad decision...=)
Its a step back, graphics are worse, physics are worse. They didnt even put in the new bike models of half of the teams, also the rider portraits... i am dissapointed so far
- haeuptling - theyre still gonna update the game, wait for it
I don't like the look of the suits and the body movements in 20
they made it darker to hide the floating bike on motogp 20
motogp 2020 came out awesome!! the physics, espically braking feels great.. bike sound effects still subpar
One more thing about the braking in GP20 that its almost impossible to fall down even pulling as hard as F*** in corner, but super easy to crash when get in touch with other bikes hahah what a logical. you can not feel the bike when pulling brake too much, feels like its electric controllers doing everything
For shits an gigs they should have the TT course . 🤙🏼
I have both games but even on ultra I dont get this like it is showed.
Also what happened with the engine sound in motogp20?
It seems like weight transition doesn't work properly in 20, moving weight the rear especially and bikes all feel like they have all the weight forward. Always stoppies and rear spinning everywhere. Moving the stick all the way back with antiwheelie off makes no difference at all, and bikes never wheelie.
Pushing forward makes your rider sit up, pulling backwards makes your rider also sit up 😂🤪
Why the ktm winglet and fairing like the rc16 2019....???isnt there a comparison...and the honda fairing is still same like rc213v 2019...????
Rafi Rudzuan28 you wait, milestone said theyre gonna update it
Can anyone tell me How this game looks on Xbox One X? Because last time i played Moto GP 18 and it looked like PS2 game on my Xbox. Thank you
Is there a way to restart your career in MGP20? And why cant I turn off dynamic weather?
I’m playing tt 2 at the moment and the sound of the bikes is so much better then the Moto gp