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Tariq Nasheed Debates Dr. Derrick Colon About Latinos in Early Hip Hop
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Hip Hop is black American culture. I am Jamaican and we had nothing to do with the creation of it. If you’re Jamaican and going along with the lie certain Latinos push you’re crazy. FBA most Jamaicans don’t follow this nonsense.
I found out that skinheads in England bit that whole jeans and Boots style from Jamaicans in Late 60s.
@@DSmith365 huh 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@@BRICKHOUSE-NNBDGP Ska was the shit back in the days, so the skinheads who listened to Ska, copied how the Jamaicans dressed backed then.
@@DSmith365 If I was you I will focus on the small population of 2.8 million Jamaicans and majority wants to flee then be worrying about cut off 👖. Black Americans are 45 plus million deep .
@@DSmith365 , be careful .
The Skin Heads will be claiming they created Reggae 50/50 .
Everybody's trying to lay claim to the greatest Musical Legacy ever---
That of Black Americans.
Exactly! These people are full of ish; I thought we didn't have a culture. They're dying to lay claim to our creations. Smh
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They gotta back up, with their hands up.
The mother of hip hop is a Caribbean woman by the name of Sylvia Robinson
THIS PUERTO RICAN PERSON SHOULD JUST SAY...THANK YOU BLACK AMERICA FOR GIVING US HIP HOP!
They cant do that. Nobody wants to thank us for what we've done
@@PotentialThall FACTS.
@@PotentialThall- Sad truth. 😤😮💨
1000%
We don't say thanks for 💩 Tariq is a known fraud
I am a Puerto Rican born in NYC and the fact is Black Americans CREATED Hip-Hop! Puerto Ricans participated in the rise… but not the creation.
Thank you for being humble enough to admit that we created Hip-Hop. It takes real man to admit the truth and it shows great character and integrity. This is how you be an ally!💯
Correct!
Wrong
😂😂😂😂😂
@@GERONIMOFH75 yet can't even disprove the comment let alone disprove Tariq 😂😂😂😂
Dr. Colon-izer has been practically begging for Tariq to debate him for 2yrs now, and when he finally got his shot he flopped 🤣
😂😂😂
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Flip flopped 😂
Colon started stuttering 😂@deformedprettyboy213
Exactly 💯💯
Soul Train aired in 1970, it showcased Black American culture, music & dance. All that early hip dancing & moves did not start when the show aired. Blacks Americans were in full swing building the culture decades prior.
Thank you for that info, i keep telling people that story...hiphop starts with soultrain.
Exactly 💯💯
One of the earliest Soul Train dancers was Shabadoo (who was half Puerto Rican and half FBA)
@125efa He identified as a Black man, so what's your point🤔
@@125efaOne fucking person is NOT 50/50!🙄
Crazy, I’m Black American and Puerto Rican, grown up in hip hop and soul and have never once questioned that hip hop and many other genres of music is foundational Black American
You speaking here with sense you need to school some of your other folks.
@@anitasewer1571 what folks, they are Americans
Then you happen to be one that thinks with some sense.👍🏿
@@DenyerYipsi Nobody said they PR aren't American, but they are recent additions to the US ( the result of two colonial powers battling). But this is about who started hip hop not about who's American
@@EWRIGHT637TELL’EM Man!!😂🤣
I’m 72 years old and rap is black. Even before hip hop blacks were rapping in their music. Function at the junction was a form of rap. I’m so tired of everyone trying to dismiss our talent and give it to another culture. Blacks invented rap, country western, Rick and roll, blues, jazz etc. we are the music.!!!!
Facts my sister we taking control of every got dam thing now
Speak it. Im old enough to know this too. Latinos kept themselves separated from black people for a long time. Mainly interaction was in school. Look around you present day those born here copy us to the Max. Our energy, flavor essence is unique no other compares.BOOM!
All truth written right here. Ya'll naysayers take it like a Champ or Chump!
Blks did not invent rap, it roots back to African Griot tradition.
Rap is just one element added into hip hop that are not native to blk ams. The music was blk am.
I was a kid in Nigeria in the early 80s dancing breakdance moves.
I clearly remember that all our influencers are black Americans - the soul train dancers, the rappers, the DJs, the MCs, etc.
I mean very dark-skinned black American males and females!
The local tv station plays soul train every Sunday night and we stay glued to the tv copying dancing moves from black Americans.
We even copied the fashion and Afro-hair styles!
Salute to you brotha, love is love. 💯
Much love and respect to my Nigerian family
Respect to our respectful brothers and sisters from the diaspora.
Much love to you brother
So why do your people call us “AKATA”
For people who go so hard to gatekeep their heritage and seperate from us they go so hard trying to take our heritage from us. It’s so fkn disrespectful.
Facts facts facts
FACTS
Agreed
It's also weak minded and they should be embarrassed!! Trying to hold onto something they had nothing to do with instead of pushing thier own creations!!
They have no culture, they take our own
🤡:James Brown wanted that sound
😎:What sound👀
🤡:That Latin sound!
I'm dead🤣🤣🤣🤣
That statement was crazy...and he knew it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was a blood bath, I'm Haitian and every other Haitians I know credited HipHop solely on Black Americans. This Puerto Rican and Jamaican influence HipHop is new talk to me. You Black Americans better stand up and don't allow no other ethnic group to come n take your shit like they've done to your other music genres.
I'm Haitian feel the same.
Glad there's people of the diaspora that isn't feelings this foul play. It's something so foul to be a guest of someone's culture and years later try to completely bombard it. And this is coming from a half FBA half Jamaican.
Hatian here to it's a know facts that black Americans created hip hop, I mean these puertoricans tripping, I think they are being paid just like Busta rhymes to carry this narrative.
I’m Puerto Rican and don’t give a shit about who created hip hop. Keep that energy with the people in the industry making claims and others who want to jump on the bandwagon. The majority of Puerto Ricans are living their own lives and aren’t thinking about hip hop. Keep that bullshit on the other side.
@@Sowhat-b7e 😆🤣 OK no violence
Welp! This was the end of Latinos going 50/50 in creating hip-hop nonsense. Colon was exposed to the point of no return 😂
He'll be back. Colon is foolishly Hard Headed....... Zulu King Amin ♠️
Its 60/40 now LMAO
@@HennesseeVolSHIIID more like 90/10
100/0 lmao
@@BruceSwitzer-yq1yy I mean Colon can keep talking and be hard headed all he wants 😂 It was shown that there is no truth behind anything he says in regards to Latinos creating half of hip-hop. Tariq showed his ass the door 😂
Its imperative that black americans solidify our culture on record.
Im glad that this recording is part of the record
Exactly...We Have To Start RECORDING EVERYTHING WE DO!
..."Imperative" being the key operative word.
@@paradyne1T101 And gatekeeping it.
1000%
It’s a damn shame that we have to debate and argue with foreigners about the origins of OUR MUSIC smh
Facts and that shit really pisses me TF off with they racists asses
It's this demonic system!! They giving these tethers the fake power to push these fake narratives!! They letting the 😈 use them and it's going to back fire on them.. it already is!!
It's partly our fault for letting these culture vultures in our space.
Agree because on their part its ignorance PERSONIFIED.
@anitasewer1571 i remember living in Orlando being one of the few blacks living in a complex with mostly them. When I say these people will steal anything that wasn't tied down. The apartment manager was Rican as well , she and ger husband were charged with embezzlement of rental checks. I will go out of my way to not be around them. Disgusting bunch.. please let's stop inviting them to our barbecue
40 years from now hillbillies will say hip hop started in the caves of Europe.. 😂😅
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And that’s why WE need to make sure we protect our culture and stop them from stealing it cause you know they love to rewrite history
Tariq just debunked Fat Joe and the Dr Colon 💩
Tariq gave a friendly reminder of the truth. Most folks over age 35 already knew this. Even them lie-tinos.
@@sirharry3051They know it but when you got all the biggest celebs and even some founders keeping it hush hush the optics of it looks horrible. What good is it if only the people that were there know the truth but meanwhile the whole world is believing lies?
Yes, I believe so to the MAX
@@sirharry3051 Yes they need to face reality. Frfr.😄
Did you watch the same thing everyone else did?
COLON Folded… he’s Been running these lies for years, had his chance to prove his point and all he did was ADMIT that Hip Hop is Black American Culture 😂😂😂.
Dr. Colon's attitude and tone reflects the hostility many Latinos have towards FBA creations. He won't even admit 'congos' come from Africa and was used in black music before any Latino was around. Tariq is on the mark calling out these culture vultures ✊🏿
This is why this argument is somewhat trivial. First we have to consider the fact that most Puerto Ricans are people of African descent due to the Transatlantic slave trade. The whole salsa, merengue, etc. musical genres that exist in Puerto Rico are based on the African drum or bongos and congas. My issue with Tariq is that he is turning non-white people regardless of their skin tone into white people. Salsa like almost every musical genre in the Spanish speaking islands are West African.
@rigand913 What does SOME puerto ricans having a teeny weeny but of African descent have to do with Black Americans🤔
@@melanatedwarrior3530 I guess you have reading comprehension issues because I never stated any of the gibberish you posted. Just to be clear, if you do not know other people's history you might want to stay clear of making stupid comments like "SOME Puerto Ricans having teeny weeny" which grammatically makes no kind of sense. Second, if you read carefully, you would know that I made no attempt to make a co-relationship between Puerto Ricans being of African descent and Black Americans. Next time, if you want to have an honest discussion or want to ask pertinent questions, please refer to what is being said. I was going to ignore your comment but as an educational stance I decided to respond. You are wrong on all fronts. Puerto Ricans do not have a teeny weeny amount of African descent.
@@melanatedwarrior3530 More importantly, for the most part, Puerto Ricans in New York lived side by side many Black Americans in the early history of the development of Hip Hop. There were only few exceptions comprised of pockets throughout the Bronx that were mostly Black American or Puerto Rican. But, mostly does not mean entirely Black American or Puerto Rican. For the most part, many communities in the Bronx were integrated. In this vein there was a relationship between the two communities. If you did not grow up in NYC, you might want to stay clear of the historical facts. The two communities were never really separated in terms of sharing and living in one of the most socially neglected sections of New York City. I grew up as a youth in the 70s and 80s. I am not from Detroit and talking about New York. I lived it.
@rigand913 You still didn't elaborate on why you even brought up SOME Puerto ricans having African ancestry in the first place. Y'all always pull out that African DNA card whenever Black American culture is the topic of discussion 🤣
The COLONIZER HAS BEEN EXPOSED! I’m half Jamaican half Black American and i salute Flex for putting in that work! I can’t wait til this documentary to come out! It’s time to gate keep FBA culture
FBA SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROTECTING OUR CULTURE WHYYYYYYYY DID IT TAKES SOOOO LONG
Colon tried using that calm condescending tone throughout as if he was the authority. The oldest white supremacist trick in the book is now called gaslighting. The problem is, he ran up against Tariq and all of that authoritative banter became word salad and nothing burgers!
true i noticed that!! he was told to be like that lol that punk move!!
Righttttttttt 💯💯💯 you hit it dead on the head. That exactly what he tried to do. An fell flat on his face. Flex destroyed that guy. An he beat him head up with no interference. Gotta love it 💯💯💯
@@michaelw.6447 It was a beautiful thing listening to Tariq work and destroy Colon's bs
@@PiyankeKemetyu Absolutely it was. He was calling him out on every single lie. He tried to tell. He destroyed that clown 🤡 so bad. He had that clown saying. I agree with you. I totally agree with you 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao… FBA folks are obsessed with white people. Yall MF put white folks on such a high pedestal, it’s weak and sad. But I guess when u can’t or won’t take accountability u need someone to blame for ur failures.
As a 50 year old man and very active in earlier hip hop. I can't recall any Puerto Ricans influencing me or my friends on any of the hip hop elements. As an example let's take a group like EPMD that took a fisherman's hat and made it popular. FBA ALL DAY !!
Afro-Carribeans and FBAs co-created hip hop
@@125efa Afro Caribbeans are liars
@@125efaWrong! Hip hop is 100% BLACK AMERICAN!!! You foreign losers keep trying to eat off of our plate.
@@125efaCaribbeans didn't co create a damn thing.
@125efa where's the proof , we influenced they creation of reggae but they introduced us to hip hop 😅😅
As a Puerto Rican man myself... You're 100% right, we had nothing to do with the creation of Hip-Hop. Now we can certainly say we were the STUDENTS of the culture! Us Latinos had nothing to do with the creation😂
Respect
APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY ❤
We already know lil dude
Grandmaster Caz said in a Vlad interview that Puerto Ricans didn't really get into Hip Hop until around 1978-79.
If Puerto Ricans help create hip-hop, why isn’t there any evidence of hip-hop on the island of Puerto Rico?
Because, Hip Hop and its culture was and is a Bronx thing.
Its all the elements put together by FBA across the country. Period!
@@RandomFlavorblack Americans from the Bronx
@@afrolore7462 If you were from The Bronx, when Hip Hop was being born, you would have never wrote this. have a great day nonetheless...
@@RandomFlavor you keep talking this from the Bronx nonsense. I don't have to be from the Bronx to speak on black American culture. Puerto Ricans didn't create Hip Hop
I grew up in the Bronx black Americans created hip hop Puerto Rican were students of hip hop they copied from us
Exactly 💯💯
Yet the mother of hip hop is a Caribbean woman by the name of Sylvia Robinson
@@125efaHow could she be the mother of a culture that she assimilated and had to fit into?? Make it make sense 🤣
And CAME from the Caribbean.@@125efa
@@melanatedwarrior3530 name another female creative who means more to the hip hop world that is not named Sylvia Robinson?
Tariq setting the record straight on the origins of Hip Hop, DJing, MCing, Breakdancing, BBoying & Graffiti
Facts these are the 5 elements of Hip Hop culture. Most of the pioneers were influential in one or more of these categories….
You're probably a little too young, or you don't have an understanding... LOCKING and POP N is a part of HIP HOP CULTURE.... it started in LA 1976-77. Then blew up on VeniCe Beach..... And yes, Mexicans was standing around watching, but they had nothing to do with the creation development or advancement of the culture.....
@@Fresh619FBAa list of the most important creatives from the hip hop world:
Most important producer: Sylvia Robinson (Virgin Islands)
Most important Break dancer: Shaba Doo (who was half Puerto Rican and FBA)
Most important graffiti artist: Basquiat (Haitian and Puerto Rican)
Most important DJ: Kool Herc (Jamaican)
Most important MC: Gil Scott Heron (who was half Jamaican and FBA)
Most important beat boxer: Doug E. Fresh (Barbados)
@@DrDerrickColonsp@c.
@@125efacaribic@@n liar.
Blacks will never copy a dance from another race...Blacks are the best dancers..creators of dances..so wtf would we copy someone else? that is just dumb.
BEYOND RIDICULOUS!
I'm West African and Hip Hop is BLACK AMERICAN .
People, what we have here was a man who spoke 100% truth and a man who spoke 100% lies. Tariq has made this man look like a fool and all he did was let him speak. It’s done.
Who thinks to initiate & step out on a lie, knowingly? Here we are, a yr later. & the nerve of this guy freestyling more lies off the cuff. Str8 ignorant.
Colon made HIMSELF look like a fool!
@@lazarus4807Tariq Nasheed has managed to manipulate the most brain dead of the black society! If 30% of these people had a skill or certified education NONE of them would be defending this BS! While America makes more enemies on the intl scene. Tariq is 15 years older than me and has not one strand of grey hair on him.
BOTTOMLINE IS. YLL HISPANICS DIDN'T CREATE SHIT ..
Sources vs. Semantics.
Damn Tariq came at dude like a straight up warrior. Chopped his head off with facts. Everytime he tried to lie he flipped his shit over with truth. To the Puerto Ricans that support Colon. So this is who you choose to ride with against us? Our champion has faced your champion in verbal combat and he put dirt on his back. CASE CLOSED!
And this Lie-tino will continue to make videos denying that Tariq shutdown every one of his false statements in this debate. I've never seen someone publicly go this far with pathological lying.
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He wasn't giving him no air to breathe🤣
It's a known fact that Puerto Ricans created breakdancing. According to Cholly Rock, niccas was doing the hustle in the 70s. There was no such thing as hip-hop before Kool Herc created it.
@@venchyluxe5740No the fuck they didn’t lmaoooo!!!
Our culture must be protected at all costs! No one will get the open lane to lie their way into profiting from what our ancestors created. Salute to Tariq ✊🏾
💯 absolutely
This should teach us a lesson of how other cultures highjack and lay claim to black Americans achievements. They hate us because of our creativity and talents
Yep and because they can’t do i!!!t…. This is why all these different nations can smile with each other as soon as we walk in the room those smiles turn into jealous frowns. Explains a lot.
One of the most interesting things about these debates is I don't ever recall ANY non-FBA talk about an artist, song OR element of hip hop IN their homeland BEFORE the 70s. Just about every so-called non-FBA pioneer was in N.Y. And they NEVER talk about any non-FBA records they were mixing, scratching that influenced HipHop music...none of that.
Facts 💪
DJ King Charles was playing many Jamaican records in the late 1960s
@@125efa Either you just made up some name, or you're referring to some guy NOBODY outside of Jamaica has ever heard of.
@@125efaYou just made that up🙄
@@derekm4819😂😂😂
This was so embarrassing for Colon.
Colon isn’t embarrassed. He’s not smart enough for that. He’s delusional.
He is not embarrassed because his bloodline is already diluted and colonized.
Check Colon's channel. He will make a video denying that he was destroyed in this public debate. Regardless of what we all witnessed.
He should be embarrassed, trying to claim BLACK CULTURE CREATION!
As a Puerto Rican man myself... You're 100% right, we had nothing to do with the creation of Hip-Hop. Now we can certainly say we were the STUDENTS of the culture! Us Latinos had nothing to do with the creation 😂
FBA New Yorker here: We didn't know nothing about no Panamanians. The 2 or 3 that were there, fronted FBA. Their culture played NO role. Fba didn't even know what haitiens were. We thought they were from Africa. This man is lying n he know it.
They love our Foundational black American hip hop culture.
But hate us as a people at the same time.
We have no alies truly
Tariq beat that boy down so bad with history that Colon dropped his Puerto Rican talking points, and started talking about the Jamaicans.🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s what they do hide behind black Caribbeans when their talking points no longer work😂
Yea.. that's how you know he is jealous of our GOD given, natural, worldly Influence...
@@ntrock22Afro-Carribeans like Sylvia robinson helped to co-create hip hop
@@125efajust like the Puerto Ricans, she was there.
@@mommadeb2433 she was not just some bystander; this woman made hip hop into a global phenomenon
He doing "I'm a suspected white supremacist Latino and i say so".
😂😂😂
Bro I ran this back 3 or 4 times. He sounds like me kids lying about them eating the last cookie they weren't supposed to 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂exactly
Dr. Colon is the equivalent of a dude that claims he owns part of your house because he left his pairs of socks in there 😂😂😂
😂
I swear they set the bar so low this is why they need to be pushed out….mfs leave a few crumbs of empanadas in your car seat next thing you know he telling ppl he help you get that brand new car!🤦🏾♂️
@@darrylbrown2775 😂😂 they out here talkin like they're actually sayin somethin! Just goes to show they can pull that bs with their own but let them come around some real black people who know facts and they gonna catch all the smoke they wasn't prepared for 🤷🏾
@@mikerageous1 This assassination was masterful
@@tavibarnes4376 appreciate the comment, but what can I say? Characters like dr colonoscopy here make it too easy 🤷🏾
Tariq tore this man up! He went from doctor to patient real quick 😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@twongreen9968
😂😂😂😂😂😂lawd!!!!😂😂😂😂
HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
I thank the Most High for Tariq. This is important to the culture. Hip-hop is the biggest genre in the world and has produced TRILLIONS of dollars since its inception. Everyone is trying to steal our creation. We can’t let that happen.
If that had gone on any longer, I think Colon would've said "But what about black on black crime" 🏳️
They have always stolen everything from us. Now they're butt hurt that we are checking their azzes 😅😅.
AGAIN! All music was created by black people free m everywhere. The term Rock n Roll was meant to be derogatory towards FBA’s for the way they danced to the rhythm.
I'M 56 YEARS YOUNG AND I REMEMBER WHEN PUERTO RICANS USED TO CALL FBA'S JUNGLE BUNNIES AND CALLED ARE MUSIC JUNGLE MUSIC BACK IN THE EARLY 70'S. BROTHER TARIQ IS ON POINT!!!!!
Towards the end of the debate Colon goes hard to connect hip hop foundation to Jamaicans….he does this because if he can get us to accept Jamaicans as pioneers, he knows Jamaicans will validate Latinos as pioneers of hip hop and the culture
That treat bag didn’t work
@@boilpoppingfacialchannelNo it won't work. We are watching their asses now.
Cause the first hip hop djs were Jamaican lol most FBA think the loudest in the room is always correct when in reality I see irate and emotional vs calm and educated with un refutable facts
@@KINGKOOKOSkeep lying… with those DJ gig stories you and those lie-tinos are the same.. nuisances. No “Jamaican” created hip hop. No one was rhyming about ox tails
Im jamaican and I would never validate no damn latino. You are incorrect in the worse way.🤣🤣.
Damn "Black Americans" are remarkable people. I love being fba!
I love being FBA. Being an FBA is the greatest thing ever.
We ain’t African we are FBA.
@@CROX1153now u 2 old for this...
No he's not, his great grandparents GRANDPARENTS are buried in AMERICA, u sound crazy right now @@kelcey7579
*Black American
They’re trying so bad to try to tie themselves to our culture. This is a prime example as to why we need to delineate and keep whatever else we have to ourselves.
Mannn…Colon keeps deviating from the inarguable fact that rap/hip-hop was alive and well way before anyone from Latin or Caribbean got involved.
This is the types of debates that's needed, IMO this what truly brings groups together by clearing the air and drawing boundaries..
Nope we good there is no bringing nothing together they can’t be trusted stay on your side
As a black man from the Caribbean i love (Tariq Nasheed) we must protect him.
Protect him?! Ok, what's your plan?
HE IS A LIVING LEGEND.. GREAT BROTHER
🙏🏽💪🏽 love to our Caribbean brothers
HE IS AGAINST CARIBBEAN PEOPLE. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE.
@@INKREDIBLE_HULK777no he's not and us fba love Caribbean people! The ones trying to lay claim, on something you didn't create, is a colonizer mindset
I couldn’t click fast enough. Look black people are the most talented people in the world. Why can’t they just say they enjoy our music. They are so jealous of us but Tariq knows our history.
ABSOLUTELY 💯
We as black has to realize the black and brown. Movement is no cause alot Latino and Spanish don't like us we must be black only.
✊🏿
Whe not black whe are actually brown they are not brown most of them pink
RAP HIP HOP IS BLACK AMERICAN 🇺🇸 CREATION, FROM THE SLANG , TO FASHION, TO THE DANCE ✊🏿
Tariq gave the Doc a verbal colonoscopy😂
🏆Damn that was Kool... I bet Dr Welsing, Dr Ben and Dr Clarke are in Heaven smiling right now.👏🏽
Exactly
Yes, they are. It's time out for us being the mule and letting people steal our creations.
This is a real deep comment. Flex is making the ancestors smile.
@mommadeb2433 absolutely correct, my Queen!
Dude said James Brown was looking for that Gloria Estefan "rhythm gonna get you" sound.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂, Gloria was dope though
James brown was an innovator, his sound didnt exist until he made it exist.
Dr. Colon is telling a false narrative. I lived literally blocks from Bronxdale Housing Project. I lived in Soundview most of my younger years from 1967-2011. When Hip Hop started in the Bronx Puerto Ricans along with the West Indians hated on the genre. Puerto Ricans were the most racist back then until Hip Hop was making money in the streets and the music industry.
Damn! I never knew P.R's was hating on HIP HOP.
This is what I heard. And another thing people don't really remember, KRS One stated it in his song "South Bronx." He stated, "The dreads in Brooklyn were crazy. You couldn't bring out ya set with no hip hop because the pistols would go ........" People missed that.
Tariq u are a 🦁 lion for your people 🇺🇲✊🏾👊🏾
After listening to this the question is , how do we go forward, with these culture vultures, that can’t be trusted?
We go forward with what we are doing now. Destroying the lies, then protecting and gatekeeping the culture going forward now that we know we have jealous haters in our midsts.
Lie- tinos have been listening to the same 2 songs for 500 years now. And they stole that from us. There is no Latino music genre
The real “Lord Tariq” Tariq Nasheed. Setting the record straight for the FBA community 💯💪🏽
That line " It's responsible to tell the truth!" hit different in this debate.
One thing about a lie, it really doesn't matter who tells it. Making stuff up and standing on it does not make it true. If I were Puerto Rican, I'd be embarrassed by this. Forreal. SMH
Why should we be embarrassed dr. Colon and fat joe don't speak for all Puerto Ricans you think Puerto Ricans are going around saying they created HIP HOP 😂😂
@jasonayala9514 No. But poor actions, such as lies and disrespect, can inadvertently become a representation of any group of people. Do I think Trump threw a roll of paper towels at all PRs? No. But it was disrespectful to the lineage as a whole. And he represented disrespectful racists as a whole in that moment, whether he is or isn't one. Puerto Ricans are not standing up and correcting these guys, so we wouldn't have to do it. What I said was to separate Puerto Ricans as a culture from the foolishness that's coming out of their mouths. Since they are lying on Puerto Ricans. But it's perception, I guess.
Master class by Brother Tariq💯🔥
And if Puerto Ricans were so influential in early hip-hop, where is their hip-hop music, where are their hip-hop artists that we can speak of fluently🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️who😩😱😱
Remember, Black communities stay to themselves until late 90's and hip hop. We started inviting everyone to the BBQ.
Only because our Black Wall Streets were destroyed. We would have been segregated from the influx of immigrants had that not happened.
Not these fictional bbq invites again.🙄
@@trenee23000 Don't stress most of you 3rd worlders are slow.
Do you see the arrogance people have when poaching off foundational black American culture? Being some of the first students of Hip Hop is a big honor. Take that in stride and stop with the 👒
Like, seriously, how sick and just downright LOW do you have to be to LAUGH while you know you're lying out of your face? 😂 Like, do you know how DISRESPECTFUL that is? The son of a bych was GIGGLING, bro!
This is why we have to be ruthless in stomping out the lies.
@@brucesmith1754 Plus, we NEED to get at anyone who'll help us get justice against UA-cam for allowing domestic terrorists to plan and plot attacks on Black communities, simultaneously shadowbanning us and our comments, by using our typing mistakes.
@@brucesmith1754 oh we are...
They cant help themselves
When the Disco Twins were jamming in the Astoria PJ’s Parks, the Puerto Ricans were in a smaller park called the “Bongo Park”, where they played Salsa music and dominoes
Actual facts. The only ones in the park jams with us was considered N word lovers
@@Shaheim320 Hey Fam 👋🏾
😅😂 word
ALL FACTS!!.. Get 'em Tariq!.. knowledge is Power! ✊🏾 WE are the Genesis and they ALL hate it.
Uncle Tariq is cooking him. Colon has no leg to stand on 😂😂
For Real! Colon is just floating in a sea of delusions and lies. Certain types of 💩 always floats.
All I want to know is will Colon be in the next Boochie bear episode?!!!🤣🤣🤣
We hope that “she” is!
Yes they gotta get him in there. His whole character should be just blurting out fake hip hop history.... Like David Alan Grier played that character on in Living Color in that restaurant who would just blurt out anything nonsense..... One episode he said"GARLIC MAKE MY FEET STANK" 😂😊😅. THATS DR COLON BOOCHIE BEAR CHARACTER RIGHT THERE!!!
@@norbalewol1619right!!!💯👏🏿👏🏿🤣and he should have him adjusting his glasses every 5 seconds too!😂😂😂
@@norbalewol1619😂😂😂
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Dr. Colon finally met his match...he has lied on OUR culture for years now, even after Cholly Rock, Crazy Legs & Bach all admitted the TRUTH directly to him that HipHop comes directly from Black American culture. Tariq called out his lies, those breakdancing crews he mentioned all learned their steps from emulating Black American dance moves. He uses Jamaicans, Panamanians, Cubans & Ricans as one group (Caribbeans), this is his little trick.
When Disco King Mario, Cool DJ D, Tyrone the mixologist R.I.P. and a couple of others started in 71' Puerto Ricans were NO WHERE TO BE FOUND!!!
Here's what Tariq should've asked Dr. Colon "If you remove FBA music and culture would Hip Hop exist?" Now, the flipside of that coin is "If you remove Puerto Rican culture and music would Hip Hop exist?"
Hell yeah hip hop would exist without Puerto Rican culture
Bingo!!!!
That’s a excellent point of view
@@chancebadger7889 Thanks. Once you ask this question....GAME OVER! Lol
damn bro that question ended the entire conversation..100 No disrespect to all the other races that participated in hiphop but whats wrong with giving credit to the originators..smh
Puerto Ricans in the early 70s was doing Salsa in disco clubs, that was their thing. They came around to rap when the sugar hill gang made rap mainstream with rapper's delight. If the flyers don't have dates on them they mean nothing. He needs to show dated news clips from the beginning back in the early 70s to prove that Puerto Ricans were there at that time. Saturday night fever told that story with the Italian competing with the Hispanics in the disco clubs doing Salsa and the Tango that's what Puerto Ricans and the rest of the Hispanics were doing at that time. They definitely wasn't involved in nothing called hip-hop. A lot of them were prejudice back then just like they are today. They didn't want nothing to do with Blk people at that time so let's stop acting like Hispanics and Blk people were partying together because that wasn't the case.
This.
If you talk to any Puerto Rican 60 to 72 years of age they will tell you that we weren't rockin with each other the way it turned out to become in the 80's. During the 60's and 70's in NYC you would find one or two Puerto Rican Brothers hanging with a gang of FBA's.
There was no kumbaya moment between us and Hispanics. Most elders that i spoke to who are Puerto Rican will tell you how separated we were culturally, and the ones who had balls to hang with us caught a lot of hell from other Puerto Ricans for hanging with us and expressing our culture instead of Latino culture. That comes from their own mouths.
@@seanwright8786 😱
Saturday night fever lol. I might finally watch that . I never seen it
The secondhand embarrassment I received from the Colon dude is mind boggling. The holes in is narrative were exposed with all these witnesses.
It’s interesting that they want to attach themselves to the greatness we have but separate themselves from the trauma we have endured.
James Brown didn't sound FUCKING latin.😅😅😅
And COLON knows this! James Brown sound was STRAIGHT UP BLACK!!!
Puerto Ricans use to call rap jungle music they didn't associate with them
And moreno music also
@@TheGreatRobertCharles Which means the Moreno music was established by their culture in America. Listening to their music does not make it Puerto Ricans orJamaicans music or culture
@@yolanda6094 I'm saying they called it moreno music as something derogatory towards us and know they're claiming to be the founders of it just ridiculous
To be fair, a lot of Black people didn't like rap music when it started either.
@GoldenMean743 when rap music started, many black people loved rap. In the 90s, when ir became gangster rap, it was different. When the carribeans Luke came on the scene, he made hip hop ratchet as hell. This is when people were complaining that the record label was loving it
I doubt there's anything comparable in Puerto Rico culturally traditionally that hip hop draws from, that can be traced back to a Latino origin but that actually everything can found in black American culture that inspired hip hop
Tariq Nasheed, you always come with the receipts,chopping it all up in debunking the Puerto fallacy. Bless my brother for putting out the straightening of the truth to power 🔋 !!!!!!! Derek is just talking anything, Ohh Lord 😮😅😂😂
LETS KEEP IT A BUCK !! 🤔 😎
Colon is trying to crowbar in lies. I get the feeling Tariq's film is going to show what was going on in Puerto Rico and Jamaica in the early 70's to compare it to what was going on in NYC at the same time period.
Yeah I heard that’s what they will do, DwannB will breakdown the whole Jamaican BS and prove that they got everything from us… so I don’t know why Busta came out his face with those lies but they are about to be embarrassed
Family it's warcon every front with everybody ... I've been moving that way personally for 5 years plus..no fear ....death before dishonor
@@TopNotch2realFacts! That’s all I was thinking during this debate. “ WAR ON ALL FRONTS” Ops Everywhere!!!
Why are these people so attached to denying black American people the credit for the very obvious influence we have always had over ANYONE who has to live amongst us in our cultural enclaves? ….. it’s weird as fuck . If I grew up in Jamaica even if I had my cousins mama and aunties with me playin Aretha Franklin in the house I’d still probably be a dancehall queen in the street. In SPITE of the fact that nobody has had more influence over music World WIDE than black Americans that would just be a consequence of being submerged in a Jamaican existence . DEAL WIT THE SHIT so u can go head and be proud of knowin how to get in where u fit in 🤦🏽♀️🙄
Because everybody knows that black Americans or us fbas are highly oppressed by systemic racism ... And these other cultures knowing that they know they can undermine us and try to take what little we because there's a system to protect them and undermine us .. the basic goes to the kicking the dog while he's down analogy ....
They just want a claim to a influential culture that they have nothing to do with… especially HipHop.
I’m so glad Tariq did the movie to show proof of who created Hip Hop! History and this video shows how EVERYBODY wants to steal what we have created.💯
This guy got beat down so bad he brought up a Black Jamaican instead of his people. ......sad
Hip hop is Black America’s gift to the world
Hip hop is survival culture in Amerikkka !! 📡
One of the gifts
You all fu** ing welcome!!!🤴🏾
One of the many gifts
Along with Jazz and Blues ok
It’s about time we had this discussion.
I'm going on 60 and Tariq is right because I was there when it all jumped off. There were no puertoricans down at the conception.
If you knew you were going to have this interview, why didn't have the flyers ready so you can make your point...🦬💩!!!
Tariq be clowing but when he serious he definitely stand on business 💯💯💯
Spinning on your back for 20 minutes because you don't have upright rhythm is funny as hell. Tariq is the GOAT 🐐 🤭😂🤣😭
Hahahahaha..... hahahahaha.....
If latinos made hip hop we would have had reggaeton in the 80s
One of the Best comment I read!!!! Great mf point!!!!
They stole salsa from Cubans
Tariq is telling the truth
I've seen that video with
Batch and colon he told
Colon quote hold up Colon
Thank you for being a voice
for his Puerto Ricans people
In this culture he said Puerto
Ricans didn't start hip-hop at
all it was his black americans
Brothers who created hip-hop
Y'all should've seen the look
on Colon's face when Batch
told the truth completely and
absolutely destroyed colons
Lie's it was Breathtaking!😂😂
The "Where's Waldo for the Puerto Ricans" will live on as a Tariq classic quip😅😂
Hahahahaha......
Dr. Colon keeps mentioning other black carribeans but cannot mention a Puerto Rican😂
Colon said James Brown wanted a Latin sound😂😂😂
@@Mrbathingape😂😂😂
Outright mf disrespectful!! Imagine the legend of all legends needing anything from the Latin community when overcompensating yourselves goes wrong!
Absolutely Ridiculous 😂
He cleared him in this short clip! Thank you Flex!
You can tell Derrick is lying. It's way too obvious
yep when he started using words like foundational, he just stealing and trying build something off our stuff. give it a rest. people around the world were not imitating Puerto Ricans!
Flex be destroying these clowns 😂😂.Big up Flex you truly hold it down. For our FBA Family. Much respect brother 👍🏾😎👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
No lie colon made a lot of Puerto Rican people look bad & thirsty. Listen to the tone in his voice. This does not sound like a man confident in what he's saying
THE SAD THING IS MOST PUERTO RICANS DENY THEIR BLACKNES!!!!
Would it even matter if they did or not. Black Americans won't accept anything outside of themselves.
Dr. Colon got roasted.