What Made the 2012 TMNT So Great | Series Retrospective (Part 2)

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    For Part 2 of the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Retrospective, we will be tackling the merchandise of the 2012 Series and also the show's second season, all done completely without having seen it before!
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  • @lesterwilliamsjr649
    @lesterwilliamsjr649 6 місяців тому +180

    Raphael having a crack in his shell is one of the best character traits a writer could give him. I love how it's shaped like a thunder bolt and how it is not acknowledged until the show is near its end.

    • @stefangavran742
      @stefangavran742 4 місяці тому +1

      Leo's crack on shell in 2003 is better detail.

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 6 місяців тому +384

    I think season 2 is probably my favorite for this show. I feel like it's when the story underwent the most change. Introducing stuff like Slash, April's growing power, Casey, Tiger Claw and Kairi's mutated form. All of these culminated in the finale which is probably the perfect way to end a season right next to Season 4.

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 6 місяців тому +17

      Tiger Claw is awesome. He's such a badass.

    • @rickyronny4019
      @rickyronny4019 6 місяців тому +13

      @@leithaziz2716agreed. I hope to see him in future adaptations

    • @skylerloggins4902
      @skylerloggins4902 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@leithaziz2716he really was

    • @weetbear3341
      @weetbear3341 5 місяців тому +2

      when I was a kid I was simping for kairi but also loved the leo and kairi dynamic

    • @rickyronny4019
      @rickyronny4019 5 місяців тому

      @@weetbear3341 I do but not the romantic aspect

  • @simon-peterwilliamson2412
    @simon-peterwilliamson2412 6 місяців тому +32

    One thing I really love is how hard the heroes lost in this show. I like when they're not afraid to let good guys rise and fall. The crew gets separated. Leo facing off the entire foot clan. Splinter being defeated. And new New York taken. It was glorious and really hard hitting

  • @CreativeStoryteller35
    @CreativeStoryteller35 6 місяців тому +103

    When i first saw the Season 2 finale, I cried. Keep in mind, I was in elementary school at the time and saw the turtles as these heroes who can never lose. They were basically my idols. So seeing them lose to the Kraang and have to flee from New York broke me. Man, I wish this show didn't end. Thankfully, I have the whole show on DVD.

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 6 місяців тому +10

      Realest asf, I didn’t cry but I was also in elementary school and I had never seen them lose so bad, it was a crushing blow

    • @SprainedSentinel
      @SprainedSentinel 6 місяців тому +6

      That finale was basically Avengers: Infinity War before Avengers: Infinity War

    • @debraestep5922
      @debraestep5922 5 місяців тому

      203 turtles did that

    • @webgeek919
      @webgeek919 5 місяців тому +1

      Holy shit I honestly thought that I was the only one who felt way🥹

    • @chrisval8268
      @chrisval8268 5 місяців тому +1

      You know what they say. A show is either great and ends or keeps on running forever. Let's be grateful for this masterpiece of a show we got. It is genuinely the most beautiful franchise I have ever seen and my entire childhood is surrounded by this show🥺🥺

  • @ashesGeek
    @ashesGeek 6 місяців тому +255

    I understand and accept, but calling Slash and Destroy just another filler while technically true would've been a serious crime, just like Metalhead Rewired this was one of the most touching and breathtaking character centric episodes.
    And more than that, Slash and Destroy is paced rather perfectly, I feel like even Leo chasing the girl with the mutagen balanced the tone to keep you invested in tension between Raph and Slash more

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 6 місяців тому +30

      Yeah I agree 100%. Slash & Destroy is easily one of the darkest episodes (and probably the darkest until like Vengeance is Mine) and takes a deep dive into Raph. It’s also the first time where the turtles are almost completely beaten, but Raph’s victory over Slash is so good yet so bittersweet. The other Slash episode, Newtrilized, is much more of a filler imo, and it’s one of the weakest season 2 episodes so I’d much rather critique that one than something like Slash and Destroy.

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 6 місяців тому +8

      @shanecorcoran2542 Newtralized could've worked much better if it didn't have Newtralizer at all and instead focused on Slash'es hatred and jealousy towards Casey looking at him like a cheap replacement. And in combination with Casey's ego it would've been much more interesting to see Slash and Casey try hunting for each other putting traps on the way while Raph tries to reason them giving Leo opportunity to tease him about "being in a responsible guy shoes".
      If they wanted to bring back Newtralizer so badly they should've done a slight rehash of his plot in Danger of the Ooze game where he was traveling both on Earth and Dimension X for mutagen to complete his weapon. Sure, they technically did something like that in When Worlds Collide part 1, but he still would've been a bigger threat than in final version

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 6 місяців тому +4

      @@ashesGeek yeah Newtralizer could have come back whenever they wanted him to, he could have honestly been in Into Dimension X if they wanted to. The Kraang could still be in Newtralized as the villain of the episode but yeah Newtralizer should have never been there, and Casey/Slash’s stories could have played out much better

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 6 місяців тому +6

      This show was my introduction to Slash. I'd say his conflict with Raph and eventual growth would qualify for more than mere filler, even if it doesn't play into the main plot.

    • @rickyronny4019
      @rickyronny4019 6 місяців тому

      @@shanecorcoran2542agreed

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois 6 місяців тому +194

    Leo’s “last” stand against Shredder and his goons was so Good. Like Seth Green is my favorite VA of Leo but Dominic Catrambone’s Scream of Leo had hit so hard🔥
    Also I really liked Leo And Karai’s dynamic. I liked their back and forth with each other

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 6 місяців тому +19

      People need to give Dominic more praise for his Leo Fr, it got to a point where I enjoy his take more than Jason’s. Since honestly I don’t think Jason was ever gonna be able to hit the emotional moments Dominic hit in The Invasion. And that scream man, wish I could see myself watching that for the first time because I just know I got chills.
      And yeah I love Leo and Karai’s dynamic in most of the series, taking out the weird romantic moments from seasons 4-5 it’s honestly a really well written dynamic

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 6 місяців тому +9

      @shanecorcoran2542 I still wonder how the things would've turned out if Shinigami was introduced much earlier.
      I know it's not that important to the plot and writers just toyed with such idea but what if 2012 Karai was actually a lesbian, it's just interesting to imagine how Shredder would've reacted to such news.
      Sure, Karai did kiss Casey to poison him but Shini was the one who always called Karai "senpai", looking at how tomboy Karai is and how she basically stopped using charms after season 1 it feels realistic

    • @etsap1236
      @etsap1236 3 місяці тому +2

      I remember fangirling over Leo and Karai’s dynamic as a kid. It was like my first Batman and Catwoman experience. I still enjoy this show as an adult and its dynamic, but I feel a bit awkward and uncomfortable watching it sometimes. Considering the technically adopted sibling thing. There is no biological, legal, or even psychological relationship between the two of them as siblings since they grew up separate, but it's still easier to just ignore the uncomfortable details and enjoy the content.😅

    • @DoodleZoo
      @DoodleZoo 2 місяці тому +2

      Seth green always makes me think of Chris Griffin when i hear him

  • @Rubywing4
    @Rubywing4 6 місяців тому +36

    Bro, when Irma revealed herself to be a Kraang, I literally went "WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT" for like a minute, that was a plot twist I REALLY didn't expect, and I was so happy that that had not been spoiled for me in any way, it genuinely shocked me.
    When April decided to bring Irma to the Lair, I was like "Oh yay, Irma joins the team, just like in the 80s! :D"
    Then she transformed, and I gasped and freaked out lol XD

  • @petertilton7004
    @petertilton7004 6 місяців тому +35

    Not a bad review, but there were things:
    1. In this iteration, Slash is voiced by Corey Feldman who voiced Donatello in the first and third Ninja Turtle movies.
    2. The cartoon that foreshadowed the events of every episode this season was called *phew* Super-Robo-Mecha-Force-Five-Team 5, a parody of Voltron and Voltes V, a long forgotten anime with the main hero, the princess, the nerd, the jock and a monkey piloting the super-robo-mecha. And contrary to what we were believed Space Heroes was a parody of Star Trek the Animated Series which aired in 1973. Voltes V, the show SRMFFTF is based on was made in 1977, so they're not just advancing the plot, they're advancing the cartoons that will lay out the plot.
    3. April only has that grudge against the turtles for 5 episodes up until Casey tells her a story about a friend he had since second grade but after a freak accident during hockey finals his friend never spoke to him since with Casey repeating what Donnie told her: "Sometimes things are beyond our control."
    Finally like Mikey from 2003, 2102 Mikey shines in the penultimate episode where the turtles have to save Leatherhead after receiving a distress signal from him. They order Mikey to stay put since he basically screws up stuff like wrecking the tape which had the final episode of SRMFFTF but Mikey heads into the portal which leads to Dimension X. While the other three turtles struggle with the physics of Dimension X Mikey had adapted to it easily using a slug as a grappling hook and using crystals that detonate when reacting to sound.
    Also props to the writers for making a parody of Big Trouble in Little China, even going as far as getting the guy who played the main villain. Shame there was no guy who expanded his muscles to the point of exploding at the end.

  • @okapi77yeet
    @okapi77yeet 6 місяців тому +9

    6:46 I first watched Pizza Face a couple of months ago at 1AM, and as an already sleep deprived college student, boy was that an experience. Please tell me I'm not the only one who felt like I was on drugs when I watched that.

  • @Harrymation-productions
    @Harrymation-productions 6 місяців тому +63

    Yeah this series wasn’t the best at shipping looking back. But I think the Donnie and April thing isn’t intirely bad. Just like with raph anger issues and Mikey’s incompetence, Donnie getting over the crush takes a while, and thankfully he gets over it in season 3.

  • @majesticmo5048
    @majesticmo5048 6 місяців тому +72

    Favourite tmnt series right here. Also i'm impressed that you didn't even have to talk about the 2012 intro last video. 2nd best tmnt intro after the 80s

    • @blur7491
      @blur7491 6 місяців тому +4

      He briefly mentioned how it's a remix of the OG, but nothing beyond that

  • @R.J.Godzilla81
    @R.J.Godzilla81 6 місяців тому +9

    Dude the Turtles vs Tiger Claw fight in the slaughterhouse was one of if not my favorite fights in the series

  • @Jackattack359
    @Jackattack359 6 місяців тому +76

    15:10 one thing I find interesting about that episode is how despite Ho Chan being a clear parody of Lo Pan from Big Trouble In Little China, how he’s still voiced by James Hong. It’s funny how he was totally cool with playing a parody of himself, same with Robert Englund in the Dream Beavers episode

    • @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro
      @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro 6 місяців тому +2

      John Kassir also voiced two of the Dream Beavers alongside Englund.

    • @Jackattack359
      @Jackattack359 6 місяців тому +3

      @@SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro yes, I know. But that isn’t necessarily a parody of The Crypt Keeper. Both were still hilarious as The Dream Beavers though

    • @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro
      @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Jackattack359 Kassir and Englund both seem to be go-tos for guest VAs for horror-analogous villains. The former voiced Zombozo in the OG Ben 10 (before being succeeded by John DiMaggio in all subsequent appearances), and the latter voiced the Vulture in The Spectacular Spider-Man.

    • @Jackattack359
      @Jackattack359 6 місяців тому +1

      @@SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro Yes. That is exactly right. Jeffrey Combs from Re-Animator also voiced The Rat King in this show so there’s another example. If anything, both of Kassir’s Dream Beavers sound more like Zombozo than The Crypt Keeper (especially Dark Beaver). It just goes to show that once you play a soon to be iconic horror character, you’re pretty much set

    • @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro
      @SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Jackattack359 Even Tim Curry qualifies for this, considering his background in Rocky Horror Picture Show and It.

  • @horizon8618
    @horizon8618 6 місяців тому +30

    This season showed that Leonardo voice changed between near the end of season 2 to season 3. The focus of Some Orginal designs are pretty good and this series has some orginal characters

    • @quintenrobinson4181
      @quintenrobinson4181 6 місяців тому

      Dominic Catrambone: (S2 finale, The Invasion)
      Seth Green: (first episode of S3, Within The Woods)

  • @psycher7
    @psycher7 6 місяців тому +8

    I loved the fight between Leo and Tigerclaw at the end of this season. One of the best in the show.

  • @thenumenfrompacland9491
    @thenumenfrompacland9491 6 місяців тому +10

    I like how the thumbnail is a remake of the thumbnail the second part of the 2003 Turtles retrospective have. Neat sorta connection

  • @skootergirl22
    @skootergirl22 6 місяців тому +16

    Notice that both Greg cripes and Ashley Johnston always voice love interests? Apart from Kevin eleven and gwen tennison, most shows they voiced in were worked on by ciro, started with beast boy and tarra, and micky and the time sorceress are love interests in this show also chiro and jinmy from SRMTHFG

  • @jamesbounds
    @jamesbounds 6 місяців тому +9

    Season 2 is when this series really got good. One of my favorite seasons of the 2012 Turtles series.

  • @kellyredfearn537
    @kellyredfearn537 6 місяців тому +14

    If I had to guess the Leonardo/ Karai relationship was a nod to Luke Skywalker and princess Leia who also originally had a flirtatious relationship but were eventually revealed to be siblings. The 2012 series is filled to the brim with homages to 70s and 80s horror, science fiction, and martial arts films. Even the character designs are inspired by actors from the time period ( Chris Bradford/ chuck Norris, Xever/ Jim Kelly/ Hun/ Bruce Lee) and the list goes on and on as the series progresses. There is actually a list on one of the wiki pages with all the references and where the inspiration was taken which is really interesting. As for the structure of the show there was a bit of a conflict between the show runner and the network. Ciro Nieli wanted episodic storytelling but nickelodeon wanted stand alone episodes that could be aired out of order. There was a bit of a compromise in the end. A lot of the episodes that are stand alones often come into play in later episodes so I think they were doing the best they could under the limitations they had. Luckily most of the stand alone episodes are pretty entertaining on their own.

  • @taiyonnii
    @taiyonnii 6 місяців тому +5

    I kinda was on board with Leo X Karai before the Miwa twist, they’re dynamic is like Batman and Catwoman but the fact they are half siblings but continued to flirt with each other made me resentful, now I see them better off having a platonic relationship.

  • @mitchfletcher2386
    @mitchfletcher2386 6 місяців тому +9

    Apparently the reason they mutated Dogpound into Rahzar was because the crew hated DogPound and wanted to kill him off.

    • @alexfischer7876
      @alexfischer7876 6 місяців тому +4

      That extra dose of Mutagen was mightier than a sword after all...
      Plus, Clancy Brown's signature voice gives 2012 Rahzar legimitate _Grim Reaper_ vibes.

  • @Shift_Salt
    @Shift_Salt 6 місяців тому +56

    I actually liked the pizza face episode myself, it was fun even if it was filler.
    I think when it comes to that stuff everyone's different, it certainly felt like pacing was off in season 2 for sure but wasn't the worst I'd sat through.

    • @kingbash6466
      @kingbash6466 6 місяців тому +17

      I know this show has some filler episodes. But unlike stuff like SU or SvTFOE, I really do enjoy a lot of the filler episodes. Reminds me a lot of Teen Titans or SRMTHFG's one-off episodes.

    • @OurKindofEntertainment
      @OurKindofEntertainment 6 місяців тому +8

      Man seeing Mikey interrogate that pizza slice was the highlight of the episode for me especially when he threatened to put him in the oven lol the animation on that scene was hilarious!

    • @OurKindofEntertainment
      @OurKindofEntertainment 6 місяців тому

      Also, just saw The Oval from last night; Sam is in some trouble now...

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 6 місяців тому +1

      I honestly dont.The only filler episodes I kinda enjoyed was the farm house horror episodes thats all.Not this pizzaface.

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 6 місяців тому +1

      Pizza Face is the only episode where I noticed an animation error in the show, a rather obvious one though.
      At some point in the episode, Mikey's mask turns red for like a second/single shot as he, I think ducks to avoid an attack/thrown object.
      There probably are more animation errors in the show, but none too obvious, this one was very "in your face" obvious though, so the creators were at least pretty good at not making a lot of errors.
      Just thought that was interesting.

  • @spyder-man0462
    @spyder-man0462 6 місяців тому +4

    19:09 a decade ago a thought had enter the back of my brain, I once had a theory that Miwa and Karai were both one and the same and when the two part season 1 finale happened, my theory was proven to be correct that Miwa was kidnapped by Shredder and renamed Karai and was raised as his daughter.

  • @VincentVincent_89
    @VincentVincent_89 6 місяців тому +6

    This is my favorite adaptation of TMNT and I’m so excited you’re finally doing a retrospective

  • @viliamsneakman1508
    @viliamsneakman1508 6 місяців тому +8

    I found the Mazes and Mutants episode kinda similar to the Dungeons, Dungeons and more Dungeons episode from Gravity Falls.
    And the Pizza Face episode to the Employee of the month episode from Teen Titans.

  • @PixelaGames2000
    @PixelaGames2000 6 місяців тому +5

    I’m glad you’re enjoying this show, it was the first TMNT show I ever watched

  • @spinjitzumasterfalcon
    @spinjitzumasterfalcon 6 місяців тому +3

    I remember when I was a little kid and was absolutely shocked during the S2 finale. It was my first time seeing my heroes fail and the villains winning.

  • @joelblake5310
    @joelblake5310 6 місяців тому +25

    A comment I have about your nitpick with the filler episodes is that this is one of those shows that doesn't want to have every episode be plot progression. It balances out plot with episodes to develop the characters or just have some fun, so I wouldn't really say that the pacing is slow.

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 6 місяців тому +5

      I’ll admit that the filler episodes he did call out are probably the weakest ones (except Pizza Face I always kinda thought it was fun), but yeah I agree. I really enjoy the pacing of this season since it feels like a lot of the filler episodes either create new cool characters or follow a plot that’s already there

    • @Theokal3
      @Theokal3 6 місяців тому +3

      honestly I have grown lately to share his opinion that fillers aren't necessarily a bad thing; nowadays many shows are so serialized that they end up wrapping their story way too fast and you barely get to enjoy them. Fillers allow you to get a bit more and can be used to expand in areas that aren't related to the main plot.
      .... With that said, like everything else, overusing them can be a problem and cause things to drag. In my opinion, TMNT 2012 *usually* does a good balance, but in some areas they push it a bit.

  • @mitchfletcher2386
    @mitchfletcher2386 6 місяців тому +3

    Fun fact: Corey Feldman auditioned for the role of Donatello in THIS series as well!

  • @elicarterracing5001
    @elicarterracing5001 2 місяці тому +1

    As a six year old kid who would watch this week to week, I just thought it was cool and fun to watch. Watching this now some of the episodes are hard to watch just because you don’t need them but I remember loving the pizza face episode and the board game episode when I was a kid. It was fun and it appealed to the younger audiences

  • @devonrichardson6150
    @devonrichardson6150 6 місяців тому +5

    One of my favorite tmnt series i love it grew up with it watched every episode

  • @onurbsenutna1261
    @onurbsenutna1261 6 місяців тому +2

    15;11 isn't just a random filler episode. It's actually sort of a parody/homage to the 80s movie Big Trouble in Little China. This show is filled with Easter eggs from the 80s and 90s, which i think a lot of people that didn't grow up in that era, will notice or understand certain references or characters. Even the Leo being ambushed, thrown off a window, being unconscious and the escape from the city to a farm, is a reference to the 1990 TMNT Movie, when Ralph gets ambushed by the Foot, gets beat up badly by them, gets tossed off a glass ceiling, and the turtles barely escape with April and Casey in a Van, to April's family Farmhouse. And in season 3 you will see more references to the 1990's movie. it's also worth mention that the cartoons that they watch on each season, is based on a popular 80s cartoons & TV Shows

  • @thaisennj9781
    @thaisennj9781 6 місяців тому +21

    Leo and Kurai have always seemed like love interest . It’s weird hearing someone say they weren’t in the OG(2003) It was like “oh no my rivals daughter and my son have a bond. How will they depict a better version of me and shredder”

    • @Theokal3
      @Theokal3 6 місяців тому +2

      ... Just so we are clear, when you say the "OG", do you mean the Mirage comics, the 80s show, or the 2003s show?

    • @thaisennj9781
      @thaisennj9781 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Theokal3 2003 shows sorry. That was my first exposure to turtl

  • @ultrasonic4220
    @ultrasonic4220 6 місяців тому +8

    No spoilers for the third season, but screw that Bigfoot episode.

  • @SpiegelmanSzn
    @SpiegelmanSzn 6 місяців тому +7

    Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on Seth Green as Leonardo from Season 3 onward.

  • @YassineTorchani-dc2cm
    @YassineTorchani-dc2cm 5 місяців тому +1

    10:11 Brock's flirting gag in a nutshell

  • @Theokal3
    @Theokal3 6 місяців тому +26

    Yeah, fans had a lot of problems with the Karai/Leo romance thing, given who Karai was later revealed to be. Many found it kinda creepy.
    Personally the point where Karai got turned into a snake mutant was the point where I started having issues with the show. I had been enthusiastic about seeing Karai now with the turtles and discover the new dynamic, so this came up to me as a way from the writers to drag the Miwha arc further, which was frustrating to me.

  • @ashyflame
    @ashyflame 6 місяців тому +5

    16:26 your predictions are on point (unfortunately )the story takes a pretty big halt for some horror movie homage filler episodes. Ex. Episode 1 is a reference to Jason Vorehess from friday the 13th. A later episode after the turtles return to new york is a reference to the SAW franchise etc.

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 6 місяців тому +2

      At least half of the farmhouse episodes are good Tbf

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 6 місяців тому +1

      I dont think turtles returning to new york was filler episode.It was more like main episode which the plot moved forward.

    • @ashyflame
      @ashyflame 6 місяців тому

      @@contra7631 The episode I mentioned happens after the turtles return to new York

  • @ajerjavec4723
    @ajerjavec4723 6 місяців тому +3

    One thing the show does good it’s for the villains to become a mutants. They usually show them before they were mutants in which she will see in season three with the rhino and the hog foot clan

  • @TheDrexLord
    @TheDrexLord 6 місяців тому +2

    Tigger claw is the best original character, if not of this show then all the non comics, at least villian wise

  • @thevioletskull8158
    @thevioletskull8158 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s good to see someone talk TMNT 2012 fully,maybe you can talk about romtmnt next or maybe a more obscure tmnt thing next.

  • @MikhailSamunin
    @MikhailSamunin 25 днів тому

    8:21 As a person who waited a weak for every episode back in 2013 I can confirm that it was pretty disappointing when a major status-quo-shifting episode was followed by a filler that often didn't even adress said shift. The most frustrating case for me was Karai's capture that was followed by two fillers in a row one of which was completely unrelated to it.

  • @beastmaster0934
    @beastmaster0934 6 місяців тому +2

    My favorite part of the season 2 finale was when Shredder had Splinter cornered, just for Leatherhead to burst through the wall behind Splinter, and take on Shredder.

  • @Poblos.weed.com.test.subject
    @Poblos.weed.com.test.subject 6 місяців тому +2

    My fav show ever, and this show made my childhood

  • @jaretco6423
    @jaretco6423 6 місяців тому +3

    I would say this version of Slash is so much better than the 80's version. In the 80's version, he was another dumb comedic villain that has alot of worst treatments. Here, he's exactly what I expected as an turtle clone and how he stays true in the comics. Basically he's the Venom of TMNT. Started as an deadly villain, than turned into an anti-hero.

  • @viliamsneakman1508
    @viliamsneakman1508 6 місяців тому +2

    Tiger Claw as a character felt like the 2003 Hun of TMNT 2012

    • @RiceCooker-san
      @RiceCooker-san 6 місяців тому +1

      Hun was actually introduced later in season 4 as a mercenary or something

    • @viliamsneakman1508
      @viliamsneakman1508 6 місяців тому +3

      @@RiceCooker-san I know but Tiger Claw character wise felt kinda similar to 2003 Hun since both of them are Shredder's most loyal henchmen and they also hate Karai and they both quitted the Foot later on in both series

  • @masummirza3033
    @masummirza3033 6 місяців тому +3

    The poor, recent video game attempts really makes me hyped up by the annonced Last ronin tmnt game

  • @user-ks8fq6jp1c
    @user-ks8fq6jp1c 6 місяців тому +2

    i just wish there was a Christmas Special for TMNT 2012 show

  • @gundambassexe31
    @gundambassexe31 6 місяців тому +3

    Love karai in season 2 and the new take on her backstory

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 6 місяців тому +2

      It’s genuinely my favorite story in the whole show, her reaction to seeing that full picture of yoshi and tang shen is genuinely one of the most striking images of the whole show. She had been staring at half a picture for her whole life, and she can’t believe that it’s actually true. Kelly Hu also does fantastic with her this season

  • @shaunnelson6616
    @shaunnelson6616 5 місяців тому +1

    Also about Urma. I don't know if you noticed she I'd a parallel character to Velma from scoobydoo in look and voice. So it was kind of fitting they did am episode with a ghost

  • @djpegao
    @djpegao 6 місяців тому +1

    I always loved shows that weren't afraid of having the main characters lose badly no matter their efforts, so this show not only reinvigorated my love for the franchise but solidified itself as the best TMNT incarnation (weird love shippings aside) to exists so far (never really connected with ROTTMNT) , im waiting to see the new Mutant Mayhem follow up movie to see if they become the new №1

  • @davidcase8635
    @davidcase8635 6 місяців тому +2

    I don't care what anybody says! I love 2012 Karai no matter what! She's my all-time favorite beautiful badass!

  • @northcali6685
    @northcali6685 6 місяців тому +1

    Rooftop Run still being on the App Store makes me feel so old. For context, if you were a huge TMNT watcher and always on Nick back in 2012 (me in this case), then you remember one of the first games they ever dropped about the 2012 show was Rooftop Run. 11 years and still there 🥲

  • @IceyBro136
    @IceyBro136 5 місяців тому

    I will stand by this to my dying breath. TMNT: DOTO is one of the greatest tmnt games that has ever been released. It's so much fun and the sense of progression is amazing.
    Also the OST goes way too hard like holy shit bro

  • @ganbarazan
    @ganbarazan 6 місяців тому +9

    Dude, I spent the entire week watching your 2003 retrospective videos and had just watched the first part of this retrospective when you uploaded this, what a coincidence! Love the in-depth behind-the-scenes research you do for these videos, keep up the good work!
    That said, I wasn’t sure how to feel about the retrospective for this particular show because I dropped it for the same reason that you did: it didn’t grab me when it first aired. Donnie having a crush on April thing was a bit more of a dealbreaker for me because Don is my favorite turtle (especially in 2003) and I hated that what’s seemed like half his screen time was spent on his crush. The changes to Don’s personality was a bit off-putting to me. I get that he felt under-appreciated for all the work he does for his family, but his sarcastic nature felt jarring when I was so used to 2003 Don’s gentle personality. The humor for the show in general felt very mean-spirited, too, in a way that made it unwatchable to me, at the time.
    I’m thinking of giving this show a chance given how popular it seems with the fans but honestly, I have a big problem with secondhand embarrassment so I’m not sure if I’ll ever manage to do that. I might be able to experience it through your retrospectives, though, so I’ll try to keep an open mind as I watch your videos (which I’m enjoying a lot!). Maybe someday I’ll end up finally watching it, too.

  • @drewreynolds1649
    @drewreynolds1649 6 місяців тому +1

    This was the most violent cartoon ever

  • @Epic_brawler_Gaming
    @Epic_brawler_Gaming 6 місяців тому +3

    pizza face was actually a real thing and mikey didn't dream him (just so you know)

  • @themysteriousspeeddemon
    @themysteriousspeeddemon 6 місяців тому +1

    12:22 I swear hes like the boba fett of the series, cool at first, but then as time goes on he becomes more or less a joke, with a few redeeming qualities in the end. Well, most of the henchmen became an easy to overcome obstacles overtime as well.

  • @rickyronny4019
    @rickyronny4019 6 місяців тому +2

    I forgot how good season two of 2012 TMNT was 😂

  • @inksicle2533
    @inksicle2533 5 місяців тому +1

    I think the unfortunate part of tmnt 2012s games is that they released during an era where cheap shovelware licensed games were still prevalent and ended before game development became more expensive forcing higher quality standards

  • @Linklex7
    @Linklex7 6 місяців тому +4

    This is the show that got me back into Ninja Turtles after the original series ended. There’s a charm about it I just can’t resist. Though I will admit they need to stop shipping the turtles with human women. Namely Leo/Korai and Donnie/April. Those were creepy

  • @kanemccarthy1979
    @kanemccarthy1979 6 місяців тому

    Well considering I just finished part 1; this was well timed!

  • @saphcal
    @saphcal 6 місяців тому

    lots of throw backs to the 87 cartoon this season. i dig that a lot!

  • @kitsunepryde507
    @kitsunepryde507 25 днів тому

    I grew up with the 2003 séries
    But the 2012 its my favorite
    I rly like the action scene, and How charming the turtles are
    I had 16y when I started watching the 2012?
    So yeah, not my introduction, but still my favorite

  • @roberttaylr
    @roberttaylr 6 місяців тому +1

    Not mentioning Seth Green's terrible Leonardo voice is criminal

  • @SultanaEntezar
    @SultanaEntezar 6 місяців тому +1

    Man, i wish these tmnt 2012 videos were 1 hour long, like your 2003 retrospective.

  • @willwidrick8039
    @willwidrick8039 6 місяців тому +1

    This is my second favorite TMNT series, right behind the 2003 series.
    I will say though unfortunately this series reached its peak with season 2 here. The rest isn’t as good but still worth watching

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 Місяць тому

      Season 3 is just as good if not maybe a little bit better imo, and Season 4’s second half is incredible as well

  • @asherz2
    @asherz2 3 місяці тому

    15:11 i loved this episode purely because it's one big reference to big trouble in little china

  • @ULTRAtheCYBORG
    @ULTRAtheCYBORG 6 місяців тому +1

    Y'Know
    I Still Remember How I First Discovered TMNT
    I Saw An Episode Of Fast Forward
    Thought "What Are These Giant Cool Ninja Turtles!?"
    Went To Buy A DVD
    Ended Up Buying The 1987 Show Instead Cause I Didn't Know The Concept Of "Multiple Shows" Back Then
    Didn't Like It As Much But Still Watched It
    The Technodrone Gave Me Nightmares
    Finally Saw The 2003 Series Via UA-cam Uploads
    Watched The Animated TMNT Movie
    Y'Know The One With Leo And Raph Fighting In The Rooftops
    Played TMNT Games
    NES
    PS2
    And Then Much Later
    I Saw The 2012 TMNT Show
    Never Saw Beyond Season 1 Cause Nickelodeon NEVER AIRED IT HERE
    Then Much Later I Finally Wanted To See More Of The Show So I Binged All Seasons On .....Totally Non Pirated Means
    And Loved It

  • @stormchaserkenway5636
    @stormchaserkenway5636 6 місяців тому +2

    15:08 It was actually referenced further where one of the Kraang soldier mentioned that a Kraang was trying a gluten-free diet, later we Irma mentions she's going on a gluten-free diet

  • @JdRDMS
    @JdRDMS 6 місяців тому +3

    You seemingly forgot to mention that Leo got a new voice actor for last 8 episodes of this season, Dominic Catrambone. Then again, he gets another new voice actor at the start of season 3, so maybe you're saving it for then.
    On another note, what are your thoughts on Mikey's new catchphrase in this show, "Booyakasha" (fun fact, Greg Cipes himself came up with it)?

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 6 місяців тому +1

      i was introduced to the franchise with the 2012 show so "booyakasha" is my "cowabunga"

  • @TMNT_1987_
    @TMNT_1987_ 6 місяців тому +1

    Man U gotta take a look at the neca toy lines lol

  • @mikeym32_
    @mikeym32_ 6 місяців тому +2

    Pixel Dan TMNT2012 reviews, man... nostalgia

  • @risingrevolt
    @risingrevolt 4 місяці тому

    You sold me on this show. Im going to check it out!

  • @lesterwilliamsjr649
    @lesterwilliamsjr649 6 місяців тому +2

    Question: If you could give the original, the 2003, and the 2012 series subtitles to help make them stand out more what would you pick.
    Also I'm not a big fan of Rise but I have to admit that it's title is great. I wish more people could appapireate the value of a good title and subtle so we could avoid the whole 'and' and one word titles.

  • @jboyathegamer
    @jboyathegamer 6 місяців тому

    Cant we all just agree that 2012 is already good enough and the fact that it got more stuff to him

  • @atleastdecent3810
    @atleastdecent3810 6 місяців тому +4

    How could you not mention that Crang Sub-prime(the one inside erma) was voiced by the Late, Great, Gilbert Godfreid?

  • @TheDrexLord
    @TheDrexLord 6 місяців тому

    This show has my favorite take on the turtle getting destroyed, and everyone else has to leave and go to the farm

  • @thetheorizermoore7476
    @thetheorizermoore7476 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m making a fan fic to continue on this franchise and add old and new stuff from it from past and future shows movies and comics

  • @shelbybayer200
    @shelbybayer200 6 місяців тому

    This series still has one of my favorite iterations of Donnie

  • @SpongeBobSquarePants847
    @SpongeBobSquarePants847 Місяць тому

    Tiger claw is one of the best villains in the franchise I mean he is so powerful

  • @Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez
    @Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez 6 місяців тому +1

    I'd at least say that the coincidence with the Turtles and Aoril being the Krang chosrn one works better even if it can be a little too coincidental since the Turtles are Spanners in the Works in this series.

  • @sebastianrivera9537
    @sebastianrivera9537 5 місяців тому

    Nah bro the Pizza ep was crazy

  • @megcairns4316
    @megcairns4316 6 місяців тому +1

    If I had a nickel for every time a green character voiced by Greg Cipes went on a solo adventure where they fought a living version of their favourite food and no one believed them about it, I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.

  • @lord_egg
    @lord_egg 3 місяці тому +1

    The Footclan soldiers being robots is such a cool idea, it just really annoys me how they're shown to be such a big threat in their debut episode but their subsequent appearances makes them just as dumb as the original soldiers (Which as you said was supposed to be the human aspect) and also makes them cannon fodder. I get that at the end of the day that's all they're ever meant to be but it would have been cool for the turtles to find them difficult to beat, at least for the first season they're in. After that, yeah make them cannon fodder, but showing the turtles beating them easily after one single episode really annoys me. The same can be said for the Kraang bots. In the first episode they practically soloed the entire team but then they became so weak the turtles didn't even need to try...and that was at the end of that two parter.

  • @StylusShade
    @StylusShade 6 місяців тому

    15:47 *LAUGH IN NETFLIX FREQUENTER*

  • @gerardorodriguez7500
    @gerardorodriguez7500 6 місяців тому

    Tmnt 2012 is my favorite version, I wish it didn’t end yet

  • @kingkirby1394
    @kingkirby1394 6 місяців тому +2

    Nice remake of the 2003 thumbnail of leo vs karai

  • @midnightfox3157
    @midnightfox3157 6 місяців тому +1

    Yayyy part 2

  • @raycom201
    @raycom201 5 місяців тому

    Honestly, I remember playing the 2012 flash games on Nickelodeon website. I remember that they were very fun😊

  • @VileThaMercenary
    @VileThaMercenary Місяць тому

    I'm so glad someone pointed how weird Leo x karai was after season 2 when they were revealed to be half siblings I didn't notice it before first watching it but in retrospectives yea I'm glad I'm not the only one saying this

  • @ceeford9919
    @ceeford9919 6 місяців тому +10

    Karai was made a love interest because Leorai is a popular ship in the TMNT fandom. The same goes for April and Donnie. These two relationship dynamics were not chosen on a whim. But the writers/creators fudge the former up when they decide to include the Miwa plotline despite the complications that the plotline would Intel.

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 6 місяців тому +4

      So, in other words, they wanted their cake and eat it too?

    • @ceeford9919
      @ceeford9919 6 місяців тому

      @@johnnygyro2295 yep

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 6 місяців тому +4

      Leo having a crush on someone at some point in the story seems to be a somewhat consistent trait of his character between this and the film (Outside of Rise). I actually don't have anything against the idea of shipping them, but in this continuity specifically, certain details makes it...uncomfortable to say the least.

    • @ceeford9919
      @ceeford9919 6 місяців тому +1

      @@leithaziz2716 True. And to be honest in my honest opinion if they were going to use the Miwa plotline for Karai, I'd think they could've introduced Lotus Blossom to replace Karai as Leo's love interest (or preferably just make her Leo's love interest from the start) since her and 87 Leo had canonical romantic tension.

  • @skratchisrandom5596
    @skratchisrandom5596 2 місяці тому

    Donnie and Aprils "will they wont they" does not get better. Ever. Though im sure you've figured that out by now

  • @therealdealye
    @therealdealye 5 місяців тому +1

    i forgot about pixel dan, i used to do the same thing😭

  • @dr.roboto3355
    @dr.roboto3355 6 місяців тому

    13:35 BEST. PUN. EVER.

  • @alexandreturcotte6411
    @alexandreturcotte6411 6 місяців тому

    Never could saw season 2 as a kid.

  • @RyomenAyeni225
    @RyomenAyeni225 6 місяців тому

    season 2 is the best in my opinion and had a crazy finale

  • @karystmania5509
    @karystmania5509 5 місяців тому

    I really enjoyed the OOTS game tbh. Yeah it was a bit janky and the cutscenes are a pain to sit through but the combat is actually pretty deep the more abilities you unlock. The arcade and survival mode is where the game shines the most.

  • @nicolaseasdale1394
    @nicolaseasdale1394 2 місяці тому +1

    TMNT-2012 Seasons Ranked:
    1: Season 2
    2: Season 4
    3: Season 3
    4: Season 5
    5: Season 1

    • @shanecorcoran2542
      @shanecorcoran2542 Місяць тому +1

      2=3>1>4>5 imo, 4 would maybe be #1 for me if the Space Arc wasn’t so dragged out

  • @karczekpl7462
    @karczekpl7462 6 місяців тому

    Now i really want a kłasą too