Kabam, MCoC COULD Be Amazing - CCP Challenge, Herc Nerf Talk, Nickel & Dime Tactics Are Not Helping

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    0:00 Intro
    2:50 Kabam's Great Opportunity
    4:05 Buffs & MCU Tie Ins
    6:42 CCP Challenge & Difficulty of Content
    12:30 Nerf to Herc Talk
    13:38 Sales, Items & Monetization
    17:39 Brutal Defender Release Schedule
    21:37 Conclusion
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  • @jeffk2042
    @jeffk2042 5 місяців тому +11

    Kabam is 1000% trying to get player to buy revives using units. That’s their 2024 goal

  • @yours_truely
    @yours_truely 5 місяців тому +66

    OK no content is made for everyone but constantly releasing content that is just for the top 1000 players will piss the rest of the player base off. This is what is happening. Yes you don't have to do CCP, you don't have to do WOW, you don't have to do BGs where you can't compete without the crazy defenders, you don't have to do the paragon gauntlet with champs you don't have (tags challenges), you don't have to use revives... Well wtf is left to do as a Valiant? Cav EQ?

    • @SammyDKING-fj6qc
      @SammyDKING-fj6qc 5 місяців тому +13

      If you are valiant then you are part of the top 1%. You are complaining for nothing 😂

    • @gebruederkeulemanns
      @gebruederkeulemanns 5 місяців тому +10

      ​@@SammyDKING-fj6qc Nah, if he is Valiant and is complaining about this Stuff, it's obvious that he/she paid alot of money for his title. So he/she is hitting the end of "pay to progress" wall.

    • @gtajeu
      @gtajeu 5 місяців тому +5

      @yours_truely has valid points. The grind is getting out of control. Valiant is not behind a pay wall either, to address comments. I spent 80 units on Necropolis to explore it. Yes, I revive farmed, but jt could pretty much be done with just AEgon. For Abyss, I grinded arena for the units before I knew about the revive farms so again, didn’t spend money.

    • @IronOver
      @IronOver 5 місяців тому +6

      Making too much content not for the masses will result in many leaving.
      The largest issue with this carina challenge was effort vs reward using rare rank-up materials on bad champs, with only shards/champ and one rankup gem as a rewards.

    • @gebruederkeulemanns
      @gebruederkeulemanns 5 місяців тому

      @@gtajeu If he is truly a Valiant by completing Necro, he wouldn't complain about how hard BG or Paragon Gauntlet is. I don't say that these types of content arent easy and not meant to be for the vast majority of people. IMO people are totally FOMO about these challenges. Everybody says these rewards arent game changing, so try to tackle the challenges or move on

  • @StoneWhale2055
    @StoneWhale2055 5 місяців тому +9

    The defender problem is worse than it is. It's one thing for a high end war player to lose 80% to a new defender, but then you have low end war with these new Defenders racking up 40+ deaths like pre nerf abs man. In addition, it's the way that these Defenders are good that makes people annoyed. Shutting off entire gameplay mechanics like dex isn't fun, and it feels worse when Kabam releases a perfect counter to the defender a few months later. I was shocked when Photon didn't get nerfed, at least on defence.

  • @dotmcoc
    @dotmcoc 5 місяців тому +31

    CCP Challenge certainly hits differently after the first week of winter of woe.
    Kabam is certainly working on creating new design space - we have new effects for mutants with impact, debuffs in neuroshock and dust, etc... To me it feels like they don't have it nailed down internally exactly where they want it to go, like relics. Great idea, but the process of getting it fleshed out has been frustrating (putting it mildly lol) to the player base.
    Speaking of... Where are more relics? We don't need new ones released every 3 months, but just looking at how amazing they can be on some of my favorite champs (Spider Ham, Black Cat...), I'd like to see more of them in the game.
    Nerf Herc and be done with it. Give out rank down tickets and 200 dust (don't figure out the tech to un ascend him, just give everyone 200 dust, or maybe just give out cosmic rank up gems?). Or stop complaining about him. He was green lit, it was a mistake, move on.
    Fully agree on the recent defenders, Kindred, Photon, even to some extent Maestro and Onslaught, feel completely different than Bullseye. Personal feeling, Maestro is safe from rebalance, Onslaught is a maybe - less than 50% odds though, Bullseye is bullshit. One of the reasons we don't have a 6* Magik in the game is her unavoidable defensive damage (yes you can turn it off with AAR, but you need a hard counter). There's only 1 hard counter to Bullseye and that's Iceman.
    WoW Abs Man - so close to being an amazingly fun fight. He's got one or two too many mechanics to deal with for the challenges - take away his regen or give us the ability to do red damage and that fight suddenly becomes an entirely different animal. You'd still have to manage it or you're gonna get facerolled, but it wouldn't leave me with the feeling that it's bullshit. And yes, some people are gonna run over him with Torch/Herc if you do that, but that's only one point. Give them those rewards, don't be stingy.
    If you're someone who is attacking the content creators or devs, please delete your account, cancel your internet subscriptions, go outside and find some running water to sit by and contemplate your life choices.
    For myself, I made a couple new years resolutions for the game - cut down on the impulse spending, and stop trying to play everything. 6 weeks in and I've been pretty successful with that. And honestly I'm happier too. For the free 7* be mine crystal - I really don't care who I get from the free one in the calendar. I'd love a Black Cat dupe or a Mojo. For $100/5k units, I would be really disappointed with sigs on Domino or IW, and pretty disappointed with Iron Man (I know hes good, would r2 him. Just not what I'm looking for in a $100 crystal). I'm skipping spending for this event, and I've spent about 5k units on stuff from the store. Hoping to rebuild my unit stash for the 8.4 completion offer/maybe get some extra cash for spring cleaning too. But I'm also spending less time in arena these days sooo... 🤷‍♂
    Great vid Vega. Thanks for being a passionate, but reasonable voice in the community.

    • @rags367
      @rags367 5 місяців тому +3

      Fantastic summary.

    • @LarryDiamond-te3yt
      @LarryDiamond-te3yt 5 місяців тому +2

      Very similar wavelength. I’ve cut down on impulse. Has to be cyber level deals. I just do black iso and wait now….
      Agree with almost everything.

    • @LarryDiamond-te3yt
      @LarryDiamond-te3yt 5 місяців тому

      One thing I keep in mind with deals is guaranteed value. I didn’t have a lot of units. But the 3,400 gave me a shot at crystal. A for sure 7 star. And enough units for a 4-5 or 1-2. Lots of value for sure. Love those rank up gems.
      Kabam brought good value and I partook. I’m not buying daily specials or paragon. Training them via purchasing behavior to treat us better. I’m not buying valiant early access until 15,000 7 star shards and rank up material per $100 spent.
      Kabam knows this. It is my belief they have tried a model with a few folks of unlimited monetary resources and a love of the game. Bless them. For revenue. So they sell in the hundreds or maybe thousands many offers.
      When they could sell in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands

    • @faustoutloud
      @faustoutloud 5 місяців тому

      Black Cat has an Amazing OP Relic Its the Black Widow.

    • @CharleyEll
      @CharleyEll 5 місяців тому +2

      Great summary. 10/10 no notes

  • @brownchr014
    @brownchr014 5 місяців тому +12

    My biggest problem with the monetization is that every year there has been things taken away from the game to sell to the spenders. I don't mind the need to make money but some things are given and then just removed to given to spenders. Look at the love based potions and revives they were originally available to earn. Then they just straight up removed them. I don't see why you can't have them available for people to buy and then also a little bit for people to buy.

    • @brownchr014
      @brownchr014 5 місяців тому +1

      Also never forget that day 16 of the calendar used to be a 2nd team revive. I won't

  • @Mobius360
    @Mobius360 5 місяців тому +6

    I’m in a weird place with this game for the first time in ages. I haven’t tried the Abs Man fight after hearing all the complaints, I still don’t know if I will bother. That’s never happened before, where I’m just at peace with skipping it 🤔.
    I was gearing up to finish the rest of Necropolis and then February update drops and I suddenly felt overwhelmed with content. This should be a good thing right, having content to play, but it had the opposite effect for me. I didn’t do anything for a few days other than AQ and AW for my alliance.
    V-Day offers roll around and I decide to burn a ton of my units and rank up some champs. Instead of the obvious choices I went for champs I love because I want to have fun. Witch (who I couldn’t even use the romance gem on even though she was in the romance crystal, shoutout to Cat Murdock for helping me get this resolved), OG Vision (still say he needs a value buff) and a few others. This made me feel great having some champs I’ve always liked finally ranked up, the gems really help me with just having fun and thankfully I’ve been sitting on a lot of units.
    Then the CCP challenges drop and I’m like damn, those are going to be a challenge, which I personally expected from 3 of the top players in the world. I’m going to stick to my plan to finish Necropolis and then probably Act 8, then I’ll look at these Carinas CCP challenges.
    I really think you’re on to something with spacing out the really difficult defenders out a bit as well, Bullseye was a tough one.
    Great watch, always appreciate this type of content from you.

    • @Vega583
      @Vega583  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for giving the real world examples of how this has all played out

  • @MrPabIito
    @MrPabIito 5 місяців тому +4

    Vega! What timing for a vid. I'm gonna grab a snack, sit down, and enjoy listening to your thoughts on these matters. Have a good day mate!

  • @MrOmegaBeastYT
    @MrOmegaBeastYT 5 місяців тому +14

    Finished the video, and the main point I'm gonna touch on is that I absolutely agree with the "not all content is for you". I mean, I just explored Necropolis and even with thousands of units spare and a very sizeable roster, woe just looks like it's not gonna be something I enjoy doing. I'm fine with not doing everything, because I can just get those resources through other more enjoyable means later on. That being said, it doesn't mean I don't want to push myself to do harder content either, as I'm looking to get into masters level war very soon.
    The reason I play this game is to have fun, and I'm not going to do stuff that I won't find fun.

    • @Keltan79
      @Keltan79 5 місяців тому +1

      I totally agreed

    • @Vega583
      @Vega583  5 місяців тому +4

      Absolutely love this mindset!

    • @zeherneyeoh1626
      @zeherneyeoh1626 5 місяців тому

      this is my thoughts with the CCP challenge. I kinda hate EOP like content and its never my goal to get solos (revive thru get it over with kinda guy) but at least the rewards make them worth it. CCP challenges (especially fintech's and lagacy's) look very interesting and fun to do, but the comparison to the rewards with WoW, I can;t justify myself prioritizing that over WoW atm.

  • @ericdaoust1656
    @ericdaoust1656 5 місяців тому +4

    Sadly, I feel that I've reached my skill limit and definitely hate the recent absurd amount of insanely hard content. I'm also stuck at Paragon, I have no intention of doing Necro type content which I don't find fun (to me it's just frustrating) and while I did spend regularly not huge amounts but did spend, I will not spend hundred of dollars to rank up a single champ... This will slowly be the end of my involvement in this game and the first step will be to completely stop spending...

  • @adityavora007
    @adityavora007 5 місяців тому

    brilliantly put forth all the relevant points . superb

  • @LarryDiamond-te3yt
    @LarryDiamond-te3yt 5 місяців тому +4

    Great stuff Vega!!! On same wavelengths!
    I like the word rational. In a rational world, this is Netmarble money maker. And more care to find as many win win as possible.
    Think like a player. I’ll be frank: DLL designs as a player. Even the sig ability is super well thought out. Makes better but not essential. And more sigs matter. So it’s not a sig 80 on Storm X thing.
    Necropolis? MASSIVE win win. The legends celebration? Massive win win.
    I’d like to talk buffs. The core characters should be addressed.
    Should be happening more frequently. And given the money making, should have one or two full time buff people and have them separated from balance team.
    And let me get this out. Spidey OG. As a great way to talk buffs. My most beloved character. I was born in 60s. I grew up with him.
    He did NOT get a bad buff. But, to me, my feedback to Kabam is start with the end point. A buff, especially at frequency now would be to get a character to solid super premium on your tier list.
    Not the tier above all, although a few a year of those is taking GREAT care of community. But minimum super premium. Does the buff get people to r5 and r2, maybe r3? Are they competitive for resources?
    I love Spidey. I’d use him everywhere. But he’s just not quite good enough versus resources. Whereas folks take up Hulk and Juggs almost instantly. Why was the flagship of Marvel not given similar?
    It’s a GOOD buff. But it’s Spidey. That was not a good community move. If there was a character that deserved your super premium. On take to rank 2, that YES, long happy life it was Spidey. If not him then who?
    Kabam needs to think on that.
    If not making your top 10 list, at least honorable mention territory.
    Also missing even one balance is a big deal. I’ve pulled Glad and then Kushala. Then Morb 😢
    Why the sad face for Morb? It was a day or two before his balance update. He’s NOT bad. But that’s not a good criteria for a new release. He’s under-tuned.
    The bleeds aren’t quite long enough, the chance to apply aren’t quite high enough. No way to pause them.
    It’s quite frustrating as a player to see say Mantis get buffed/balanced, Shuri, then somehow no love for Morb? Is he competing for resources? I have 4 science tier 6. Not for me. He needed a little love.
    Now I’m ‘famous’ for saying balance team doesn’t miss. They are VERY fair. I do think they miss here or there. Again the criteria is competitive release.
    And yes the defenders are becoming an issue. But if any changes to current ones it’s going to be a sour taste that photon wasn’t touched. For consistency.
    I really really really hope the Glad buff makes him fun and resource worthy.
    I believe in win win. Kabam has a PHENOMENAL community in my humble opinion 😂 Be worthy of that community and the game will thrive, salaries will thrive.
    Get the community team some nutrient dense food to chill out and be kinder 😂 They set a shrill tone. Two wrongs do not make a right.
    I actually can see a Herc nerf being good for players. But it’s from a team that needs a kinder, gentler demeanor.
    We as a community, and me for me though can always always strive for kind and gentle.
    I haven’t even gotten into crystal drop rates, rewards updates, etc. I’m done. Most important thought: thank you Vega. Appreciated.

  • @drjayf
    @drjayf 5 місяців тому +4

    Nice video Vega. I'll respond to each topic with my own feelings
    1. CCP Challenge - very bad timing, and sad to lock some really loved characters behind a 0.1% difficulty gate. In the past the kind of champs that would be restricted to these would be trophy champs like Ultron or Thanos (gifting 1%). Rewards are passsable except..many would want these champs as a 7*. It would have been better to give out titles , emotes and pfps like EOP Grief. Even waiting around until resources are negligible may make it less worth doing by then for most players
    2. Nickel & Dime - linked to AW tactics, and the last few months of defenders - everything seems designed to drain us of money and units. Not appreciated.
    3.Champ buff cadence - linked to the CCP challenge - having us being forced to rank up champs people hate to use in the game (though might love otherwise) and NOT buffing them is a big issue. SO many new champs have had 1 or 2 upgrades while favourites like OG Black Widow continue to be crap. Why? And don’t say marvel - the characters are already in game - they just need buffing like when we had that side quest where OG Cap became a monster..for all of 30 days. They need to do better with he champs ppl actually started playing this game for.
    4. Herc nerf and what ai call DIFFICULTY-GATE - it is what it is..just like quake and magic in a years time no one will be using her much because of the nodes and champs I can see them brining into the game to negate him. Sad as that usually means a rough time overall. We lost the revive farm due to champs like HErc (and Corvus before) yet the difficulty has been tune dup even ore with Wow Abs Man and these challenges. This doesn’t add up. You nerf champs indirectly via nodes, and take away revive farming - why is the game getting harder? IT just makes them look greedy!
    5. Continuing BUGS BUGS and MORE BUGS!

  • @BigBlueOx
    @BigBlueOx 5 місяців тому +3

    I think it’s all connected. Between WoW, CCP challenges, defender difficulty and AW tactic being intentionally evil AND released over the holiday break giving players that grind no scheduled break thus year it’s just been overkill. I think the way you presented this highlights that. Tbf you could even characterize Onslaught and Bullseye as just more nickel and diming to go with Crush AW tactics and pathetic availability to pots. Let’s not forget making us all RAIDs beta testers and pretending it was a polish game mode. So many lost units to that to not let down their BGs or to brute force around less reliable teammates.

  • @Reidlos1773
    @Reidlos1773 5 місяців тому +1

    Your point about X-Men ‘97 and the Deadpool movie being reflected in game is an excellent point. Cyclops blue is just desperate for an Iron-Man level rework, and he deserves it

  • @sebastianarrazola5866
    @sebastianarrazola5866 5 місяців тому +3

    Nerfing champions is the worse thing they can do. Someone plays for a long time, or spends resources to finally get a certain champ and rank him up, only for KABAM to nerf him some time after. Let people keep their trophies.

  • @TruthComicMCOC
    @TruthComicMCOC 5 місяців тому

    Great stuff Vega. I really appreciate your analytical and mostly objective view of things. I like that you don’t take a hard CCP support or attack lane and balance the info.

  • @Cyrus-po4pr
    @Cyrus-po4pr 5 місяців тому +6

    Vega , your the Batman of this game. The content creator we need , appreciate you bro 👍

  • @MistrzRafal
    @MistrzRafal 5 місяців тому

    Great video, Vega. Hats off.

  • @RumpRoast1
    @RumpRoast1 5 місяців тому +2

    Great analysis Vega. Objective and fair

  • @scarcoh5238
    @scarcoh5238 5 місяців тому

    Always so articulate and considered. Thank you for your continuing work on behalf of this community.

  • @MrJentu
    @MrJentu 5 місяців тому +2

    Basically I feel it comes down to simple business. You have a customer base. If one facet is massively pissing off a larger than 50% portion of them, it’s worth examining not doing it or reversing it.

  • @hector-278
    @hector-278 5 місяців тому

    From the perspective of someone who has take some distance from your channel lately (mainly from the time you returned back to CCP), I must say that this has been the best video you have put out for quite some time now. You try to see the game both from the player base (all levels) and Kabam’s side, you give credit where credit is due, you don’t fall into fan-service-all-out-rand to Kabam just to please the players and you try to remain as objective as possible to the challenges the game faces in 2024. I pretty much agree with every word you said. Excellently summarised and approached.
    P.S.: it’s truly amazing that the community flat out refuses to learn and accept that not all content is for everyone and that just because content is released, you are not obliged to do it. From a paragon player who learned that lesson early, and has found his balance and fun long term and keeps enjoying it.

  • @CampoMC101
    @CampoMC101 5 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic video; I agree with everything here!

  • @faustoutloud
    @faustoutloud 5 місяців тому +3

    Agree on alot of what your saying Vega and personally for me as a Valiant player and as someone who spends regularly The CCP challenge is a bit much meaning i just don't feel like wasting 7* Resources ranking up champs that will never get used again Same thing with the Mojo challenge although if I pulled the 7* twice i guess that wouldn't be too bad and it goes for Tigra i get shes good but when I watched fintech do his Tigra challenge I thought to myself does Fin think the large Majority of Players even high tier can play like this 😂. It was wrong for so many Summoners to go after these guy's for Making content they had nothing to do with he rewards thats on Kabams side and Honestly if kabam gave us r4-r5 Gems from completing each objective ppl wouldn't mind using them on these champs to do this content.😊

  • @AtlantaJonny
    @AtlantaJonny 5 місяців тому +1

    Good stuff Vega

  • @BigBlueOx
    @BigBlueOx 5 місяців тому +3

    Love that you keep doing this! The MCOC dad we all need (says a 40 year old man 🤫🤫🤫)

  • @scottiewaters7684
    @scottiewaters7684 5 місяців тому

    Thanks Vega! ✊👍

  • @duhveed3343
    @duhveed3343 5 місяців тому +1

    Vega, I really appreciate this video and I appreciate how you as a top-tier player can empathize with the average player. For context I’m a high-Paragon working towards my 2nd r3 for Valiant, and I’d call myself an average to slightly above average. I’m a casual spender and I’ll spend money if it’s worth my money and I can afford to spend. That said, I understand not all content is for every player. I didn’t have a good time in Necropolis in my 1st path so I’m putting that off until I can get better.
    And don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind a challenging fight. Abs Man for sure is a challenging fight. What I do mind, however, is having to spend 10 energy to essentially practice a fight. Granted I did watch some videos on the fight beforehand, but as we all know watching someone else do the fight and you having to do the fight yourself are two different things. It’s frustrating that there’s no way to “practice” that fight without spending 10 energy, when it’s already a very difficult fight to begin with. I had plenty of tries where I died due to making a mistake like hitting into the unstoppable (that’s on me) or poor AI cooperation and I’d die from the degen, or a dropped input.
    A suggestion I’d like to make is if you want to keep the energy the cost the same, fine. But give us a “practice mode” where he has all of the nodes but there’s no energy cost and no item usage. I ended up using 3-4 refills per objective until I felt comfortable enough with reviving to get him down.

  • @DeanJames-oe4ie
    @DeanJames-oe4ie 5 місяців тому +1

    Fair as always 👍

  • @t.o.double9497
    @t.o.double9497 5 місяців тому

    Vega your communication skills are fantastic. You make your points so everyone can understand. Anyone who listens can tell you're being honest and respectful with your thoughts. You're and adult and you act like one. You don't have time for nonsense and it's nice you passing that msg along to community. I know you do this channel as a side hustle, but it be cool if you were able to do more news vids. I know you probably don't have the time it would just be cool. You're the best bro keep up the great work.

  • @kylecourtois211
    @kylecourtois211 5 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic take. The only thing I'd add is that with the difficulty of Winter of Woe, after the depletion of resources from Necropolis, tying aggregate rewards to it and making it timebound was a major problem. Like Summer of Pain and Eternity of Pain, I understand the intent was always timebound, but the timing with removing revive farming and necropolis felt intentional. I think a fair compromise would be to remove the two week timeline and run the first set of Woe all season.

  • @mattgrassi5293
    @mattgrassi5293 5 місяців тому

    Vega you are the best thanks for being honest as always very well thought out video🙏

  • @jb-easy09
    @jb-easy09 5 місяців тому +2

    I forgot to say thank you this was a well thought out video hope kabam listens

  • @zacharyrichards1
    @zacharyrichards1 5 місяців тому

    Awesome video, I resonate a lot with wanting a challenge and wanting to be able to turn my brain off and fight. I’ve lost a lot of love for this game because of the hard back to back challenges that are frustrating. Another large part of it is that the game runs so bad on my I phone 11, not sure if it’s just my phone though. Great video!!

  • @infernets
    @infernets 5 місяців тому +1

    You are one of the only MCoC content creators i watch nowadays.
    The difficulty? It feels like the excuse or narrative of "Not being for everyone" is being used more and more often... The pile of things I pass due to difficulty and ratio of rewards is piling up.
    About DP MCU... Make Peter into a champ!

  • @Reidlos1773
    @Reidlos1773 5 місяців тому

    From someone who cleared the Tigra/Jabari EOP Carinas challenge day 1: These challenges are not impossible or untested. The further I went through, the further I realized “hey, most of these aren’t that bad.” Half of the fights could’ve been solo’s if I was a better player (1-2 revives used), I solo’d Kraven, and only Warlock and Dormammu took more than a handful of revives. But more than anything, I had an absolute blast. Terrax and Dragon Man and Kraven with Tigra and Scorpion and Blade with Jabari were some of the most fun and challenging fights I’ve done in a long time. It’s by no means impossible. Having said that, it definitely requires a roster. It’s not something that I’d recommend to someone who only has them R3. Before this challenge was released, my Tigra’s R5, I pulled 7 star Jabari, and my 6 star Jabari is R3. I had the roster for this challenge before it dropped. And I think that’s ok. I don’t think every challenge Kabam puts out should be doable with your usual suspects of the top couple dozen champs in the game. Even the first Winter of Woe, most people have Hulk ranked, most people have Warlock ranked, a lot of people have a 7 star G99 or Hulk. This challenge is optional, and it’s permanent. The rewards will be meaningful for a good while. My favorite part of this game is when Kabam challenges us to use champs outside of our comfort zone. I’m just waiting for the day when the best options for a fight are champs like Jubilee or Yondu. I think Fintech, Lagacy and KarateMike knocked it out of the park with his challenges meant for the very top of the player base, and I look forward to completing the rest of them.

  • @cosmosgato
    @cosmosgato 5 місяців тому +3

    If Herc is ever nerfed, that would be an extremely poor decision.

  • @gileidelman3142
    @gileidelman3142 5 місяців тому

    Hey Vega! Big fan here! Wpuld love to see a stat focus guide/spread sheet. Do you know of one?
    I think it will be helpful for a lot of players.
    Peace 🎉

  • @LarryDiamond-te3yt
    @LarryDiamond-te3yt 5 місяців тому +4

    Just looking at your time stamps I know this is going to be well thought out.
    I feel you and KT are the two most balanced, mature, voices.
    Both QUICK to praise Kabam. Quick. Even if 10 questionable decisions, one good one, praise.
    And then thoughtful critiques. It is why I say Kabam has 10,000X then X more a better community than it deserves.
    And the actual Kabam community team has the worse ever team I’ve ever experienced. NOT saying all of Kabam. But the community team, I wish it was not so, is the most hostile to customers team I’ve ever seen.
    It is wild. Wild. Not all of Kabam. But wow. It makes even a smidgen of trust an issue. For sure….

  • @slagatorfantabulous7877
    @slagatorfantabulous7877 5 місяців тому

    I hope those top tier players who are facing difficulties with completing high-end (way difficult) content, remember those of us mid and lower-tier players who face difficulties with content they've completed ages ago, and not respond to our calls for help with "Get good".
    @Vega you cover current events in MCOC better than literally anyone else I watch. I check in with your channel every day. Thanks!

  • @mandkshields
    @mandkshields 5 місяців тому

    I haven't yet seen this in the comments, but something to add with the difficulty of new content is the revive farming. Hard content every so often was okay for me as i knew i could build up my revive stash. Now I've restarted monthly quests just to avoid using that one Regen.
    So in the couple of months since they started nerfing revives we had necropolis (good), adding special quests objectives in Paragon gauntlet (mixed), wow (bad this far), and ccp challenges (bad overall). Having all these so close and limiting my chances to get revives make it stressful. I'm motivated to spend when I'm having fun in the game and when its a good value. I don't think I'm alone in that

  • @ewljr
    @ewljr 5 місяців тому

    Please get that Bullseye video out soon! Pulled a 7*

  • @cosmosgato
    @cosmosgato 5 місяців тому

    Still watching the intro but couldn’t agree more!
    The classic hero’s and ones with shows must be fun and effective, they are the prime reason for the initial download.
    I had a man-crush on Luke Cage like forever.

  • @theshinydome1992
    @theshinydome1992 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm at a place in this game that i have never been at before, which is at the highest progression. I took several years off playing this game, and before that I wasn't very good. I struggled through content, but had fun getting back into this game and improving.
    Necropolis was the first long form content I've ever done, and I've of the most fun things I've been a part of in this game. The community involvement was amazing.
    I've loved battlegrounds, and while it's been frustrating at times, I really feel like I've improved as a player due to the mode.
    I've done the gamma objective and the two Lagacy challenges, but I have zero desire to do the others. At this point I'm losing interest in battlegrounds as well, and don't really have anything in this game that I'm dying to do. I'm the least interested that I have ever been, including when I took a break the first time. That's sad to me considering just a couple months ago I was the most engaged and happy.
    Incursions aren't it for me. Arena isn't it for me. EQ/SQ isn't it for me. WoW isn't it for me. Carina challenges aren't it for me. Battlegrounds are losing there appeal. I'm looking forward to 8.4, but after that I'm wondering what there is that will keep me playing this game or if I'll just be done.

  • @AnkitSharma9212
    @AnkitSharma9212 5 місяців тому +2

    So I think the issue with the CCP Challenge is not the difficulty of the challenges themselves AND at the same time its not that the challenges are easy. They are easier than Absman WoW which I would consider (say the #Robot challenge) at 10/10 for what a true challenge in MCOC should look like and anything above that simply becomes a revive grab.
    The issue with CCP Challenge is that the payout is not that good. 2x random 7* have little value and then the 2x 7* selectors are great but ideally it takes a person 25 revives per challenge, totaling to 100 (for the 4 tough ones). That doesnt feel great for the rewards we get as there are pretty much ZERO rankup materials (except for a single 1-2 gem).
    If kabam immediately adds T2 dust, 4-5 generic gem, some t6cc selectors and maybe even half-full T4A, lots of people will immediately change their minds about the challenge. Simply take the #Robot challenge for Absman and assume that the top rewards are just 1-2 Gem and 2x 7* crystals, would you be ok with that kind of content for those rewards? NO, and I think this is what Kabam needs to think about

    • @Vega583
      @Vega583  5 місяців тому +2

      I hear you for sure and to me that means this was a labeling problem from Kabam. They shouldn’t have been under the header of Carina’s as those have usually given great progression rewards.

  • @deanb1679
    @deanb1679 5 місяців тому +1

    Super helpful, well said, and perfect tone

  • @therealmoiseshenriques4125
    @therealmoiseshenriques4125 5 місяців тому

    Also to add, the problem with not doing the content is you fall behind or you do miss out. The deathless pieces are being tied to some of this content. So there is pressure and that’s what Kabam are counting on so you’ll push through and spend. I’m choosing not to do any of it now because of the choices Kabam have made but I’m sure it’s not easy for some.

  • @Nuke_mcoc
    @Nuke_mcoc 5 місяців тому

    Your note about reasonable players saying “this is what content is now.” That’s 100% how I feel. I have done one necro path and want to do more. Obviously revive farming limits my capability. Currently farming what I can and making that priority. As it is now with revives I’m looking at 6 months. At about 30-40 revives per path

  • @xl_Zemo1TV
    @xl_Zemo1TV 5 місяців тому

    Does someone have a link to his server?

  • @Lord_Jerkface
    @Lord_Jerkface 5 місяців тому +3

    Looking forward to watching this in its entirety. Regarding the call for feedback though, I think this is also a big problem for Kabam. Anytime their community managers respond, they come across as condescending and defensive in very demeaning ways. The general response from each of Miike, Jax, and Crashed on the forums about the CCP challenge is "if you don't like it, don't do it" and "this was designed with certain players in mind, if you're not one of those, this isn't for you." I'm a player in Mysterium levels of BG and have played Masters level war. I like to think I'm the target audience for this challenge. But it's frustrating to spend time giving substantive feedback when this is the response we get (or that it's ignored entirely, also pretty common). It only adds to the view that Kabam is tone deaf in the direction of the game and doesn't care about how players feel, so long as the whales continue spending.

  • @AllisonEdits
    @AllisonEdits 5 місяців тому

    I agree with 98% of what you've said, good stuff, also, if they buff iw, all they have to do is remove her dex, and speed up her ramp, her high risk should stay exactly the same, otherwise if it were changed I would literally not play anymore

  • @alejo_soccerman
    @alejo_soccerman 5 місяців тому

    Hey Vega!!!
    Nice video, I feel that the only important thing you didn’t talk about was de Community Manager team (Don’t know it’s name jajaja). I feel that Kabam Miike has had comments that doesn’t help to solve the issues and make worse the toxicity in the community.
    I know you talk about the herc situation, but isn’t the only one. Personally I don’t like feel threatened all the time, that say to every one that they can bann you if they want, it feels like he is a judge that can do whatever he wants and if he get mad he can just delete you no matter how much you spend or effort to have it.
    Or the comments Jax anda Miike have done about the issue of how our time no matter and that they just want us to spend resourses…
    It clear this in borrowed and they can do whatever they want but the game is what it is because of the community, and that community are the FTP, the Wales and every one that participates of the game…
    I love this game, have been about 9 years playing, have my own alliance and try to be updated with all that happens but I feel ofended because the people of the administration just don’t like that I spend my time and just want my money…
    Sorry for the long message and I apologize for my bad English…
    Keep up with the great work!!!

    • @Vega583
      @Vega583  5 місяців тому

      Your English was very good and you wrote well. I honestly don't spend time on the forums so I do not have much I can say about them

  • @jb-easy09
    @jb-easy09 5 місяців тому +3

    I respect everything you said but look at Nepcrop I wouldn’t consider that an easy content more than 10 million revives used and not one felt defeated by it everyone felt this is an event I can work towards all I need is a rank 5 aegon or this champ and eventually everyone can do it a path at a time now these new stuff you feel defeated right away abs man was crap , and the ccp challenge was crap too, Lagacy now seem like the only one that had the community in mind with his challenge, not everyone is Fin or Mike or metal sonic im ok with Tigra but no way on their level so what took them 10 revives might take me 40 so those challenge were created for them , Lagacy challenge everyone wanted starky and he’s such a easy champ to learn so it was hard but fun.

  • @janmcfly_
    @janmcfly_ 5 місяців тому

    100% agree Vega.
    Kabam should definitely go on and buff the old-school iconic Marvel champions like OG Deadpool, Captain America Classic, Wolverine, Cyclops, Dr. Strange, The Punisher, Carnage, Cable, Abomination, Groot and Starlord. Those characters we all know and love. I believe lots of people wanna play and crush some content with them. But therefore they really need a good update and Iam not talking about those disappointing buffs like Classic Spiderman or Ant Man.

  • @rgregoryii
    @rgregoryii 5 місяців тому

    I agree woth a lot of what you said.
    I took time away from game because life required it. Now looking at some of the things added or fixed/changed in that time i can see some clear great things, some misses and some things that just seem off.
    I get that kabam needs to make money but revive farming was actually more time consuming then unit farming in arena. Or at least always had been for me.
    One of my biggest issue with battlegrounds has been early they had some very narrow global nodes. Making it not fun for those without some specific champs. This season its a rather generic node that can be helpful but doesn't punish dmaller rosters. I just made paragon yesterday and have always geared rank ups towards questing over war or BGs. Yes some overlap but not all. An example is corvus. Ive always found him jusy above average when he doesnt have a charge or two. Or a better one CAIW without a team hes not very good or loses a lot.
    Im plannong on focused defenders/dual threats for BGs for a while and some war rank ups as well.
    Ive also never been a fan of the everest content so theres a lot i haven't even attempted.

  • @dougfoust2044
    @dougfoust2044 5 місяців тому

    Kabam and the ccp are not above criticism. However it should be constructive and positive in nature.
    1) I feel the best rewards should come from the game content
    2) could there be a tier system for fights? The highest tier could be for special emotes and titles for the very best players.
    3)I believe the MCOC should be fair, reviving 30 times on the same fight isn’t fun, not saying fights should be easy, just fair, sometimes it feels like the node combinations are done without testing, the current Absorbing Man fight is one example.
    Above all I want MCOC to be great, I love this game and want to play it for years to come!! Keep up the great work Vega!!

  • @chitrakbanerjee00001
    @chitrakbanerjee00001 5 місяців тому

    Also 100% agree with the defender thing... couldn't have been said any better...2 or 3 over the top difficult crazy defenders a year is more than enough...hell that way they could even design 1/2 counters for those defenders and sell them mid time instead of just dumping them down
    Edit- just figured out a solution to this problem or atleast like make it bearable at the very least...NEW MASTERIES..give them out, put some moderate level content for the points and some xtra rewards...and win win

  • @Darikwa1
    @Darikwa1 5 місяців тому

    The problem is that we're experiencing extreme highs and lows with content availability. I'm passionate about the game and completed my initial playthrough of Necropolis in December, followed by a second one in January, during which I managed to save some units and revives. Although I'm eager to participate in the Winter of Woe, it's not feasible for me. Currently, I've only managed to save about 15% of the revives and units needed for my third run of Necropolis. Therefore, I don't have the extra resources to invest in new content. I've decided to refrain from engaging with any new material until I've fully completed Necropolis and secured my next 7-star rank up, to help with progressing to Valiant and I can only afford to do one path a month.

  • @user-fi1jb4oe1n
    @user-fi1jb4oe1n 5 місяців тому

    If they nerf Herc I think given what they have had people shell out in packages to get him they could have a bait and switch problem. They can produce defenders and content to deal with him but nerfing him giving the way they have marketed him got people to spend to get him it’s most likely to break UK & EU law IMHO.

  • @abaddon4468
    @abaddon4468 5 місяців тому

    Omg you said something about movies. If you were in a bg stream people would be losing there minds! 😂😂😂

  • @user-wz8nk3eu1l
    @user-wz8nk3eu1l 5 місяців тому

    Mantis kicks photons butt in wars

  • @jasonlauritsen5587
    @jasonlauritsen5587 5 місяців тому

    A pretty much perfect evaluation of the game issues other than the fact that everything is so much harder now that all the AI does is sit there defending then punish you the nanosecond that you try a heavy or build up to an SP3 and waste us, and the lack of much value in purchasing from most parts of the store, and the lack of anything of value to make you wanna buy the sigil.
    I've quit buying those as they stopped helping me as soon as i got to Thronebreaker. The only things in there of value TB+ is the potion trade-in's and the discount featured crystal. Definitely not worth the cost with the game being what it currently is.

  • @tekepenguin1981
    @tekepenguin1981 5 місяців тому +2

    Step 1: nerf revive farming. Step 2 : Release a new "Valiant rank", appeals to the top 1%. Release Banquet rewards that only the top 1% gorlt meaningful resources from. Release Necropolis, everest content, more rewards for the top 1%. Release WoP, more extremely tough (maybe the hardest fight ever) content that appeals to, maybe 5% of the community and more rewards for the new Valiant players. Release CCP challenges that probably less than the top 1% can achieve in the next 6 months. We noticing a trend here? This isnt a trend, its the state of the game. I've played for 9 years, spent thousands of dollars and somehow not even I am in the loop to compete anymore. I need to make MCOC a full time job to farm revives to then be able to dump them smashing my head against a wall, i might actually not even be able to complete due to the difficulty. Nothing about that cycle is fun, engaging, rewarding or inspiring for me. I cant imagine how cold the game must feel right now to anyone below Paragon.

  • @chitrakbanerjee00001
    @chitrakbanerjee00001 5 місяців тому +3

    1st thing... yes not all content is for everyone, true...but what about the basic ftp playerbase???...like speaking for myself after 8.3 completion and the monthly quests there's literally no damn content which i can play, both cause of crazyyyy difficulty and somewhat limited roster and time 😢..so it looks like kabam is pretty much driving the game in a direction with the 1% whales in mind ..no offense
    2nd thing which probably will make this whole situation even worse is THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST THAT THEY CAN DO...the other alternative would b every content goes insanely difficult (as was with act 6.2 champion boss and quite a few eq bosses) ...so that pretty much seals the deal
    3rd the damn inputs...pretty much half of the year every year scince 2019 doesn't work at all...and they keep on making shitty excuses and false promises saying they fixed shit like in nov 2023... that's very concerning, literally it seems they'll never fix the inputs cause it makes them money and all we'll ever get is a few false promises of some new input fixes over and over again...screw this

  • @j69fizzle
    @j69fizzle 4 місяці тому

    I wanted to wait to post a comment until I actually attempted some CCP Carina Challenges. They are meant to be difficult, yes. Learning curve, yes. Perma-content is there for that reason. I found my angst to rank up Starkey more challenging than the challenge itself. Why? Because I don’t use nor like that champ. I like the these because there’s more strategy and the ability to learn “how to” take these challenges more effectively.

  • @frostychihuahua5331
    @frostychihuahua5331 5 місяців тому

    When I spend the most on a game it’s because I am having fun and enjoying my time. When I feel like I am forced to spend just to play I lose motivation to continue.

  • @therealmoiseshenriques4125
    @therealmoiseshenriques4125 5 місяців тому +1

    This anger comes off the back of the revive nerf. Let people have a fair go at content without being forced to dig into their wallets too much. I spent plenty of money on early access bundles, random offers and the big sales events. I felt like the trade off was I could farm some received to cut down costs on harder content. Now however I’m going free to play. No more early access, no more deals no more big sales. I also refuse to do this content and use all my resources on one or two “challenges” and then be completely depleted.
    I explored necro and loved it. I farmed but I also used units to buy the offers you get after completing the monthly eq. I bought health pots to heal up a champ when I needed it in those fights. What I had was a choice. Now I don’t. So my choice is to not spend. I’m so close to deleting the game and moving on, the only thing stopping me is my alliance mates and even that might not be enough if Kabam doesn’t do something to improve this situation.

  • @markmartin5817
    @markmartin5817 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m hating when I’m in bg and war and I go for an intercept and they reparry. They’re stunning me in a fraction of the time it would take me to stun the opponent. They’re dexing and holding special. Yesterday, I was in the last 30% of killing fantman and I couldn’t click my special using my r3 venom. I tried 5-6 times. The sp1 and 2 wasn’t working. It was so frustrating. I don’t think any champ prevents you from using specials unless special locked and I wasn’t. So many bugs. Now it’s pay to play more than ever. The worst is they just nerfed revives and turn around a month later and have death challenges. It’s not the direction they said they were going to go. They lied. Also don’t nerf herc. He’s useful but with 7r3 there’s are sometimes more fun options. I use him when bugs are an issue. Which is all the time. They bugs make herc justified. Also in bg vt they’ve reduced NF power rate. So even though you hit him 20 times his power bar doesn’t go up from a sp1 to sp2 as fast as it should. They’ve changed it. 100% positive.

  • @RafaelSilvaGrisa
    @RafaelSilvaGrisa 5 місяців тому

    I totally understand Kabam's move with more challenging content. However, to progress, you must complete some of the complex content. And I think that Kabam "reduced" free-to-play power. For example, Kabam nerfed revive farming, but it did not create something to replace it - for example: increase revive inventory or expiration time. I completed Necropolis, and I intend to explore it fully. However, I must get units and revives to start my next run. However, considering only 2 revives per day and even buying 1.000 units promo after completing the EQ monthly, I would still need to get some more, but the first revives would start to expire. Some should say that I should buy the revives, but I also need to save units for the big promos when I can get better "stuff" to support my game progress. This is just one example, and I see many players who have played the game for years but do not feel the passion to become valiant (I have a lot of it; it is too much for me).

  • @christopherbale9529
    @christopherbale9529 5 місяців тому

    So I totally agree with not insulting the CCP members who made the content. I would say the reason for the personal nature of the response is it feels like a bit of a personal attack on the player base to have our members have made stuff this challenging.. It is supposed to be this challenging and an intentional purposeful creation. The issue is timing in the end feels like being dumped on. But I appreciate you and the members who put in the work on those contents. Thxx

  • @waitwhat_
    @waitwhat_ 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for video. First, re: Herc nerf and general Kabam communication in general. Unfortunately for Kabam, Kabam Miike is the biggest mouthpiece for them. I say unfortunately, because IMHO a sizeable portion of the playing community think Miike's comments are (how shall I say) not well crafted. However, boiled down to its basic substance, Kabam Miike's comments are nothing more than white noise/static. As much as he talks, it’s just talk. What moves this game is money and until he start hurting Kabam’s profits everything he say is hollow. If and when he starts hurting profits Kabam will step in. Until then Miike is pretty much bomb and bullet proof and can say whatever he wants. It’s pretty clear to me that Miike knows this. Best thing we can do is ignore them - ignore the challenges and ignore anything Miike says bc it rarely , if ever, comes true. Just like you ignore white noise. That said, I do know that not everyone can or will do that. Because of this, anytime he does comment there is a not insignificant chance he is going to upset the community. This leads to alot of angst and anger, and which seems to get transferred to anything "kabam". I think Kabam would do themselves a world of good by ensuring that anything Miike posts must be proofread by someone with more tact, or better yet, just let only Jax post to the community

  • @bossmansmeagzog8048
    @bossmansmeagzog8048 5 місяців тому

    What about dust? I feel like dust is worse than maestro or bullseye.

  • @dukhntr21
    @dukhntr21 5 місяців тому

    I’ll be buying a new Xbox for when the NCAA football game drops. I won’t be playing this game much after that. It was a fun 9 years for the most part. I won’t miss it much though.

  • @Elseworlds
    @Elseworlds 5 місяців тому

    I do enjoy hard content, when it s not boring and repetitive. In general, that s a different problem though, most of high end content for some years now, it s based in only one skill: patience. Anyway, what I wanted to say:
    For half a year now, maybe more, especially after the big July 4th sales, it has been more than clear, that kabam is after our money. Hard. They don't even try to hide it even, when they state that "the X challenge is not made to be taken down itemless", "you will need to spend your resources to get through it", "you will need to dig deep in you revive and potions crates" and things like that. Fine. But when you introduce content like this, every couple of months, and also doing this strategically right after a big sale (Necro was after CW, WoE after New year's, Carinas right after Valentines etc), even if you did have a large amount of consumables, you re now left with nothing. It s pretty clear, that they try to drain us dry from these things, so we can start using units, and eventually, buying units, Units that we won't have to spend in the next big sale, so we ll have to buy. Units. (revive farming nerf related and all that of course).
    Kabam tried really, really hard to push especially paragon players (because that s where the money spending is, was) to do 100% Necropolis. This requires for the average good high end paragon player let s say around 3,5-4k units. Six paths, let s say the two with farming pre nerf, 12k units you may not have, so u ll, mentally, need to buy them. I did two paths myself, didn't had the units to do more, didn't had the time to grind arenas. I won't buy the units to do the rest. Absolutely not.
    I stopped giving the game money because it stopped feeling like they going somewhere. I still have no parry after 3 years and 3 different "gaming" phones, dexterity works partially, sometimes I dash forward the opponent when I swipe on the left, my champion throws heavies on his own, and so on. Am not even mentioning the AI situation, where exactly are MY money going to? Do I pay for the new coffee machine in disrespectful, employees' offices after all? Employees that threaten and bullying me?
    I am NOT a happy customer. I am NOT getting the service I deserve. That s all I have to say. (..once again, I don't think any of my words or feelings are heard from a company like the one Kabam has become.)

  • @seanhannagan231
    @seanhannagan231 5 місяців тому

    I think it’s good that the rewards are meh. It means if someone doesn’t like the challenge and doesn’t want to partake, it’s not like it’s going to create a big progression gap. You don’t like it just don’t do it, you’re not missing out on account changing rewards.

  • @ewljr
    @ewljr 5 місяців тому

    Absolutely not on nerfing Herc. It’s been years. Tough💩 to Kabam. They said they wouldn’t nerf him bc of the rebalancing started after him. We can’t ever believe them again. Why do I want to rank up anyone if I don’t know that they’re going to nerf them.

  • @jacksonlipsey3166
    @jacksonlipsey3166 5 місяців тому

    This is obvious but the content is for the top players unless u can spend money, unite, gold, iso, other resources. I play everyday and do all content but I rank up 1 6* to r3 r4 r5 and I’m down 400 iso 7 mill gold then I’m waiting until we get a store buff

  • @hermitudinous
    @hermitudinous 5 місяців тому

    Re: Herc nerf. Sigh. The actual nerfing or potential for nerfing doesn’t bother me (yet), but you’re spot-on in that the topic and messaging are entirely unnecessary. I can wake up in the morning and tell my wife, “You know, it’s entirely possible that some hot young girl is going to want to jump my bones today. Just so you know.” True? Uh, sure. Is it necessary to say? No. Is it wise to say that? Absolutely not. And that’s where the massive failure lies. KM should know better, because that’s just atrocious PR, and even though what he stated was 100% correct, that doesn’t mean he’s right to have said it. And others defending him should know that, too.
    Further, it is unfortunate that that’s how much of the communication from him often reads. I’m sure he comes across much differently in person, but he needs to understand the difference between being right and being tactful/wise. Messaging that is antagonistic (even unintentionally so) doesn’t do anything to help get everyone on the same page.

  • @robhorowitz5095
    @robhorowitz5095 5 місяців тому

    Honestly I think design wise they messed up with winter of woe. 99% of the player base won’t do it in one go. The tags that they restricted to aren’t awful but the way the ai and the fight mechanics mix is the issue. Simple changes like letting dot effects in would make robots easier. Not having him heal or building in a heal block into the nodes. Things of that nature. The energy cost should not be there for what type of fight it is given that you have two weeks to do it while having event quest and side quest both taking energy.
    Hercules nerf isn’t needed nor should they. More designs like last month for tag that doesn’t include him for bonus rewards or necropolis way it does not make him viable are fine. We all can and should adapt to with and without him based on content.
    The money issue is worse now than before true. But with them taking revive farming out and making content harder with not a reliable option that is an issue. I think an easy fix is the 500 unit deal they did in game for revives and potions. Make that a monthly thing or biweekly. FTP can save 500 units for it and no need to farm revives.
    The ccp challenges I think need rewards up for the difficulty of Mile and Fintech ones. Lagacy is fair and balanced. I do like that this challenge round they provide multiple ways to get the champs if you didn’t have such as the valentine calendar and giving us the 5 stark spidey. I think the difficulty of the Mike and Fintech ones is that you have to complete that harder content twice to get the objectives rather than once like in lagacy where yes there are two but they are two separate quests.

  • @muxie4877
    @muxie4877 5 місяців тому

    Let me give you my 2 cents, I will try to be as concise as I can (English is my 3rd language):
    In my opinion there is a singular root to all the problems the game (community) is facing. Namely the skill ceiling of the game is probably the highest within the genre of mobile games.
    From my experience recently this gap has been growing (through introduction of more challenging defenders and more complicated nodes).
    As you, many other players and even Kabam have stated: “not every content is for you”, and I agree. I don’t mind that I cannot play to the level of T1 alliance players, and I respect the skill that I clearly lack resulting in me being unable to do the current WOW or these Carina’s.
    The Issue for me appears whenever I feel like there is NO CONTENT for me in the game, while other players belonging to the higher tier constantly get new shiny toys (:
    I’ve done all story content and 1 path of necro (I don’t have champs to do exploration due to lack of counters for some problem fights). The only thing left in the game is incursions and monthly EQ which is way too easy for me.
    The content I enjoy the most (story) was also slashed in half, so now I have to wait the same amount of time to get half the fun (:
    In reality, I believe most players would shut up and wouldn’t mind the content they are currently releasing if they just gave them something cool to do every now and then.
    If I were to propose a solution: introduce paragon EQ (it is long overdue) and 70-80% of complaining disappear. Progressing players have story content, Whales/1% have WOW, carina etc, and players in between have decently challenging content every month.
    Side note: Kabam SUCK at communicating, they are constantly hyping up those events and then when they drop the same ppl that were excited now realize that they won’t be able to complete it and get angry.

  • @jordanpax9735
    @jordanpax9735 5 місяців тому

    On the topic of the CCP challenge I say this. Both sides fucked up.
    Kabam did them dirty with the timing of the release and the level of rewards.
    The content creators messed up because they're our voice to kabam as fellow players. If we can't trust them to make reasonably fun but hard content who can we trust. Do I think they should get death threats hell no. But some trash talk shouldn't be too much for them to handle.
    When they put their name on it they should've known to make sure it's something they could live with the feedback from. Both good and bad.
    It's like a marriage/relationship you can't just want all the good then run from the bad. Not you got to take the good and the bad. Look at them both and use it as a means to ether continue to do good or make course corrections if you are doing bad.
    If you think giving the a bit of trash talk is too much. I think your weird, ppl trash talk there friends for fun all the time.
    If that's too much tho I also advocate for ppl to do like we do with kabam. Hurt there wallets but not giving their stream and channel views. It hurts unsubbing just as much and trash talking 😂

  • @aden24flash
    @aden24flash 5 місяців тому

    I agree that all content especially like this is for not for everyone. I have a family of 6 with a demanding job, and try to compete and will not spend anymore because of the obvious....so I completely understand the anger and disbelief from the community. How do you expect someone like me handle this when the AI, input issues, black screen in incursions and bgs bugs leading to WOE and these challenges are going on and the content creators keep justifying kabams actions? I don't condone insults and personal attacks but man is not fun anymore and as customers, we are not getting at least customer svc.

  • @adamantium711
    @adamantium711 5 місяців тому

    Couldn't have said it any better, thanks for putting this out Vega. Not only does a player not have to do every piece of content, but you can also spread it out. The first Carina's Challenges compared to the latest CCP are completely different reward structures. There is no reason to ever do Vol 1 challenges any more but the CCP challenges will be worthwhile for a long time. Take your time! Kabam has done really well not making content feel like it needs to be rushed to be worth doing like it was years ago. Necro, Act 8, CCP and other recent Carina's are all worth doing months or even more than a year later.
    Overall I'm very positive on the game, a couple things like spreading out the cadence of really hard defenders would help a lot. And of course exactly what you said about unavoidable damage. Photon and Kindred are great examples of difficult but fair defenders. Bullseye doesn't feel fair.

  • @cosmosgato
    @cosmosgato 5 місяців тому

    As for your second point, folks stop comparing yourself with the elite of the elites.
    I’m Valiant but recently have been experiencing more fun with my free to play level 49 account! 🙂
    Learn to enjoy the ride and not just focus on the destination.

  • @adityavora007
    @adityavora007 5 місяців тому

    used 30 plus revives and 400 plus pots to bring him down to 600k and then he went back up to 950k and then i gave up winter of woe . its not for me

  • @CP.Darkhawk
    @CP.Darkhawk 5 місяців тому

    Only thing I disagree with is that monopolies don't exist in the real world. The lastest inflation crisis is a direct result of monopolization.
    I also agree with the good defenders are coming out to fast. I haven't figured any of them out yet. Battlegrounds has lost a lot of its appeal because of it. Not that I don't like a good defenders, just not 1 a month.

  • @OnlyScubaSteveO
    @OnlyScubaSteveO 5 місяців тому

    It really feels to me that Kabam see the numbers and knows the game is on the decline. Knowing this it feels like they are thinking let’s get every penny out of them while we can. I also think Kabam has another game in the works. I hope I’m wrong but all the signs are there. Revive farming nerf, tougher new defenders, crazy tough content, and make people spend to get the highest progression title. I’ve played this game forever and have already left my longtime alliance for one that I don’t have to spend at all. The next step for me is to uninstall if things don’t start to change.

  • @yarg2015
    @yarg2015 5 місяців тому +1

    I don’t care if they make content for the 1% as long as they make content for the 99%.
    Where is act 8.4 where are the back issues, where is the mid tier challenges for the average player

  • @LarryDiamond-te3yt
    @LarryDiamond-te3yt 5 місяців тому

    As a spender, if Vega you can give feedback, or someone from Kabam reads this, I’m down to black iso, and no other deals, unless a cyber level offer.
    The valentines were close enough, I did get. Paired with the 4-5 gems.
    Daily specials? No. The valiant cards? No. The 6 star shards, no. They went down last time, Kabam went backwards. No way I was getting those.
    And the valiant early access are now a no. They have a community that wants to support DLL, other designers, but I’m done with how they offer it.
    Hers how I’d buy one. The twice a month early access have to be at least a Valentine D level.
    They should be. For $100 a guaranteed 7 star. Not the new one. Either a basic crystal or 15,000 shards. Not the 1,000.
    And rank up resources. At least 3 of each to take to rank 4. And tier 6 class. One or a half at worse.
    Or no. I’m done with them. I’m not chasing iron heart nor dust. Barely looked at them. Why? I know I’m not getting for maybe forever. And just fine with that.
    The 6 stars compete with 7 stars for both rank 4 and 5. THATS why I don’t value them. And Kabam still strangleholds tier 6 class. So NO incentive to get new champs because I can barely rank ones I have and want to.
    I can’t. So the whole system has radically devalued new 6 stars. And I consider paragons worthless. So there has to be rank up and an RNG chance at a 7 star for me. $100 I need 100% that I will be getting some 7 star.
    In other words, $100 for a 6 star has already jumped the shark. And they might sell 500 of them.
    IF they made it cyber level or cyber light, they might sell 50,000. And are rank up resources not rank 3, and an RNG chance at a 7 going to break balance or the economy? No.
    But without enticing, great offers, they make zero money. Or much less. Having the default for valiant be the mythics still wouldn’t be enough. $100 has the be for sure MCOC value to me.
    They lose so much money by not updating offers. No one took a few minutes to propose a valiant trade in for daily specials? Make them better?
    No. It’s like awful menu items at a restaurant. Folks just say no, don’t buy.
    Thought Ironheart was going to be radical upgrade on valiant early access. Nope. And no money to Kabam.
    Bottomline. Like every company Kabam has to earn money by being pro player, player oriented. Etc. I have no desire to even learn about new champion kits now. No point. Not remotely interested in getting them how Kabam currently offers them to community.
    Even at valiant level. DLL makes a great new champ? Still no interest. Might not get in two years. Even as a spender. Wild stuff.

  • @rags367
    @rags367 5 місяців тому

    Monetization. Constantly increasing the amount of big sales events has the inverse effect they want it to have. The more they want me to spend, the less I want to spend. I’ve slowly but surely fallen from the top because I’m just not willing to keep shelling out more and more cash year after year. As a player of 10 years, I’m not sure I like the future direction of the game, or maybe it’s just run its course for me.

  • @immortalmkd1867
    @immortalmkd1867 5 місяців тому

    First I would like to say attacking CCP members with aggressive and threatening comments is not cool, this community needs to do better. Second, as far as the rest of the content in his video @Vega I agree with how you feel about the buff program and balancing 100% I just feel like when it comes to the older champs like Sinister who have sucked for years they need to step it up a notch. These buffs need to come faster, expand the program, hire some more ppl, whatever they need to do but make it happen and get all these champs updated to the current state of the game. Third, when it comes to difficult content I do agree with them making content that’s not for everyone but they shouldn’t be then marketing it like everyone can do it. Flat out tell us this is for the whales and the hardcore players and come out with something else along side it that is just as engaging for the rest. Just saying it’s difficult with no cap to what that might entail is not enough information to go off of. Fourth when they decide to monetize pretty much everything in this game they need to balance that out with suitable rewards and item drops to help alleviate some of the pressure to compete in higher levels of the game for non-spenders or minimal spenders. The sales drops coming every month practically have forced me to go from once being in the same alliance as you, SSX in high tier war, to just another average player in a lower tier alliance no one has heard of. It’s not Fomo, it’s something more. When I play in a new BGs meta and try my best to compete and midway through the season we have content drop that’s meant and catered specifically for whale accounts and MSD type players, followed by huge sales to give several new rank ups, maxed out champions ,ascensions, relic acquisitions, and brand new champions immediately acquired and max out at the highest ranks. Needless to say if I don’t buy some of the deals I won’t have ability to keep my current pace in the rest of the season of BGs. Therefore I can’t compete like I’d been able to do previously, and that effectively changed my demeanor and outlook of the game, which is way I’m no longer in SSX. My point is this if you going to make money from the game that’s totally acceptable but do not do it from selling items for punishing content. Let us work our way up to the harder stuff and make all levels of the game enjoyable for everyone. If you need help I’d be glad to work for Kabam I have some ideas how to do just that specifically how arenas mode can be updated and less stale and more of a payoff for the causal players as well as the hardcore grinders. Thanks for reading if you got this far and feel free to share if you enjoyed my take with others. Have a great day, Dude! 😊

    • @abaddon4468
      @abaddon4468 5 місяців тому +1

      I got to the " The community needs to do better" and all I could do was laugh thinking about the cap sam wilson meme. 😂😂

  • @jordanpax9735
    @jordanpax9735 5 місяців тому

    Also our time spent in this game is a currency. You guys can try to say it's not but it is. If we don't login to play the game that's potential money. You kabam can't make.
    So please stop acting like we're at fault for wanting you all to make a fun fair game that isn't just about spend spend spend if you want to win. Seriously I'm a Paragon player whose cleared the necropolis 3 times, not because I like it but because it's the only way to become valiant.
    I don't mind paying a bit of money or time to hit the highest level. But I don't want to be told my time doesn't matter

  • @Yo-Kabro8230
    @Yo-Kabro8230 5 місяців тому

    Why can’t kabam just run 2 versions 1 Iike the current WOW for the sweaty boys and a version. Not so tough for the rest of us with one set of rewards and you can do either one you want to get those rewards everyone’s happy.

  • @onegod7257
    @onegod7257 5 місяців тому +1

    P.S. If they nerf Herc, I will quit & flame MCOC in every which way conceivable & available.

  • @zico9006
    @zico9006 5 місяців тому

    its usually the beginning of the end when people who make games starts pissing off majority of your customer base. I have been playing this game for the last 7 years and i honestly can't wait to stop. I feel like very soon kabam will just do one more stupid thing and then am done and so are a lot of guys like me and i spend a lot of money in this game.

  • @LarryDiamond-te3yt
    @LarryDiamond-te3yt 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m going to give my view before watching and an apology. It’s ok for community to show and verse frustration and criticism. And in this case, due to the nature of signature events, directly to the person.
    BUT. Never personal attacks not related directly and reasonably to the challenge. I don’t think I crossed that line. But even coming close, makes me uncomfortable. And apologies for coming close or certainly beyond.
    My main problems with what happened is how tone deaf, INSENSITIVE, dismissive, and condescending the Kabam community team can be.
    Those were on full display here. A community challenge is not the best place for the Uber Uber Uber hard stuff. Everyone involved should have sleuthed that out the first day of thinking about it.
    The Uber hard stuff shouldn’t have game changing rewards. So that part is cool.
    The carina challenges many of them set a precedent of using champs that everyone had and could easily mass rank and highest sig.
    Lags caught on to that. It was at best, completely insensitive for Mike and Fin not to.
    I feel this is a very reasonable statement to sum it up. Uber challenging, forever content with not game changing rewards is a nice framework.
    But. Not in a community event. That’s easy to see. That is arrogant. Also KT1 is an interesting case. Gets revenue from YT for doing this. His one of the best rosters. In a top alliance so lots of rank up coming.
    AND one of the best players on planet. And he still doesn’t want to do it 😮😮😮 And he loves massacre almost as much as you.
    Mike and Fin should have and could have put themselves in our place. And they would’ve gone oh heck no… the challenge should be structured around champs not needing rank up resources 6 and 7 stars need.
    The fact they didn’t, speaks volume to me. And note the 6 star champ rewards speaks to Kabam thinking the same way.
    Fully summed up here. A cool concept. But the insensitivity of Kabam, Mike, and Fin (I think insensitivity is a respectful summary word) took what could have been a FUN event and kind of silenced the N 😂

  • @jacksonlipsey3166
    @jacksonlipsey3166 5 місяців тому

    Honestly kabam, take a break from making new champs and just spend 3 months remaking or just buffing and old ones. I guarantee u know one would complain if sentry got buffed to be usable or superior iron man

  • @TripleHMCOC
    @TripleHMCOC 5 місяців тому

    Personal insults are never cool to no one not even to kabam with that said my biggest criticism to the ccp is that when kabam came out with the dance off challenge they criticized kabam for it and gave them the business and when they had the opportunity to show kabam the way to go they blew it and in my opinion made it even worse this content is extremely hard and heavy on the resources not just rank ups but also revives and potions and boosts and to me that's sad because this was a friendly fire.i would've love to see them create a new quest and each one of them made a fight and at the end they work together to create a boss a fair new creative content not hey go back to this extremely hard content and BTW rank up these irrelevant champions so u can have a bad time and gain horrible rewards. Kabam needs to understand that they need to make content that is fair challenging and fun so ppl can utilize different Champs and add their own strategies to tackle them not hey here's a content and if u don't feel like doing it hey don't do it that isn't fair just my opinion 🤷‍♂️.

  • @xxcrimzonekingsxx1965
    @xxcrimzonekingsxx1965 5 місяців тому

    They have to rebalance the arena for new players. There's no way i should be facing 60k+ teams on 6 wins. To top it off the ai goes nuts and decides it's able to have 100% favor in ability accuracy, evade, parry counter, parry heavy resist, or my person favorite is the parry special. i'm level 40 and because of the new shard boost i have like 10 champs that i can fight with that are over 4k,. So they make the game playable for an hour and then you soL until they reset and then you have kill off a team to reset the arena just so you can have a couple of regular fights. My suggestion to make a universal easy, normal, hard and extreme mode. it will attract more new players who wont just delete the game because they got completely demolished in one fight. I get that you want to cater to the spenders who have been loyal, but there are new player that just lose interest because the games difficulty is at max. If the point of the kabam endeavor is to make it too hard to play so they just shut down i mean ok but why? New players have to learn way too much in basically no time so they hit defeat and then delete. its a bold strategy, but why not think like fortnite and not like apex

  • @imposterimpossible6990
    @imposterimpossible6990 5 місяців тому

    If they do actually nerf herc I will stop spending then playing as you can’t trust a thread that comes from there mouths