Hacking Is Life-or-Death When You Target a Hospital🎙Darknet Diaries Ep. 121: Ed

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  • @mrtymek
    @mrtymek 2 роки тому +58

    When he said "this device was in surgery while you were on it" the penny dropped really heavy. wow.

    • @RickSanchezzzC137
      @RickSanchezzzC137 2 роки тому +3

      I loudly blurted the F word when he said that. That would be scary on all sides.

  • @harrickvharrick3957
    @harrickvharrick3957 Рік тому +4

    The whole way the computing dept of the anonymous hospitals that gets discussed (and the ones of hospitals alike, all this mentioned from about minute 8 on in the video) the whole way how they go about and (have) set up their systems, with regards to accessibility to and from the internet and with regards to what (parts) are safe(guarded), backed up, and/or thoroughly kept separate and inaccessible at all, is so iffy and seems to fall so short of what one even on a merely theoretical basis might come up with as a (more) ideal and indeed safe setup is rather astonishing. It is as if they hardly are willing to spend any intelligent thought on it at all!

  • @thcoura
    @thcoura 2 роки тому +20

    17:00 I agree that people are lazy upgrading their equipment, however, not exclusively, upgrading your printer is usually not desirable. Old firmwares were hacked/bypassed to accept recycled non original ink and nobody wants to change this "feature"

  • @r2db
    @r2db 2 роки тому +15

    Due to the cost of medical devices I have seen a lot of second-hand medical equipment, typically in smaller and/ or rural hospitals. Within the last decade I have seen critical equipment that is still running Windows XP, and I am sure that these devices are so old that the manufacturers (if they are still in business) will not be updating the firmware to anything more current.

    • @r2db
      @r2db Рік тому

      @@zimbabwesteve4620 I concur that most hospitals are running on thin margins, if there is even a profit margin at all, but that is in a large part a self-induced injury due to administrative bloat and excessive leverage by private equity. I agree completely that with proper network configuration these devices can be segregated from much of the rest of the IT infrastructure. However, the devices that I was speaking of have almost exclusively been in the radiology department (x-ray machines and CT scan workstations). By their very nature they must interact with the PACS server. Having a gigantic security hole one step removed from one's PACS server does not inspire confidence in persons such as myself who must make life or death decisions upon the data that I am presented.

  • @fixitralphltd4988
    @fixitralphltd4988 Рік тому +3

    That moment they realised the laser was being used 🤣 heart stopping moment!

  • @plur90
    @plur90 2 роки тому +50

    What a good story to start my day with. Remember people, this is why medical device manufacturers oppose right to repair.

    • @armincal9834
      @armincal9834 2 роки тому +2

      Really? My job is repairing people's medical equipment :D

    • @quackieshoebill1019
      @quackieshoebill1019 2 роки тому

      @@armincal9834 nice. Which country are you based in?

    • @Rumpelstiltskin1812
      @Rumpelstiltskin1812 Рік тому +5

      What about the case with the laser?
      The software was not updated by the manufacturer, whether negligent or otherwise, for over 2 years.
      What about the pen testers?
      Do they need to be certified by the software or hardware company that they’re exploiting?

    • @DanoTV209
      @DanoTV209 Рік тому

      ​@Cade allen are you talking about the therac 25?

  • @ericf423
    @ericf423 2 роки тому +57

    I am really loving all this content you've had coming out. PLEASE! Keep it up!

  • @jwink7795
    @jwink7795 2 роки тому +15

    "i think humans have more vulnerabilities than computers do." -JR i think this is one of the most low key, on the fucking nose statements i've ever heard. bravo, love the show.

    • @_JS96
      @_JS96 2 роки тому +1

      It's been an expression in the infosec world for at least decades lmao, but yeah humans are always going to be the simplest route to what you're after. One of the reasons Mitnick se'd over the phone more than any hacking, it's just way easier

    • @damuffinman6895
      @damuffinman6895 2 роки тому

      @@_JS96 Yep, people are so, so stupid.

  • @decklanhobbins575
    @decklanhobbins575 2 роки тому +2

    Listened on Spotify while at work the other day. Love listening again on UA-cam

  • @Whelessry
    @Whelessry Рік тому +3

    I love the pen test episodes

  • @maroskukan8387
    @maroskukan8387 2 роки тому +7

    What a great episode. I always find inspiration in the stories that are shared by your guests.

  • @waynestewart1919
    @waynestewart1919 2 роки тому +5

    That was very enlightening. I'm tentatively planning to start my journey into cyber security.

  • @MarxOrx
    @MarxOrx Рік тому +1

    Literally addicted just paid UA-cam premium so I can listen to this all day nonstop

  • @Frakenstien20
    @Frakenstien20 2 роки тому +3

    That hospital story is terrifying, damn

  • @nofear2792
    @nofear2792 2 роки тому +8

    People need to call the actual person to verify if something is legit. Everything is a scam or fake until you either talk to the real person face to face or on the phone.

    • @fixitralphltd4988
      @fixitralphltd4988 Рік тому

      Laughs in deepfake

    • @carnivorebear6582
      @carnivorebear6582 Рік тому +1

      ​@FixItRalph LTD deepfaking in real time? Sure you can change pitch easily to match another voice but speech patterns, cadence, etc. can't really be altered in real time.
      Also if you are using a contact method established beforehand you've got to somehow hijack that.

  • @Forensource
    @Forensource 9 місяців тому

    One problem with working at a hospital is that there are usually 2 groups that take care of hospital hardware - one group handles medical devices and another group handles everything else generally desktop support is never going to touch the medical devices. We had critical sleep systems that could never go down, so they were never backed up or updated.

  • @History-Of-The-Day
    @History-Of-The-Day Рік тому

    Thanks for this!!!
    This one could literally open people's eyes 👀

  • @coachmystogan
    @coachmystogan 7 місяців тому

    The doll story towards the end is a bit crazy knowing toothbrushes have been hacked in large numbers now.

  • @chevy4004
    @chevy4004 Рік тому +1

    "ok, great....I'll start in 90days" lmao, I'm dead

  • @apakan1665
    @apakan1665 2 роки тому

    Thank you always a great listen 🙂

  • @ironwater2
    @ironwater2 2 роки тому +1

    Jack Rhysider: truly the Ira Glass of security and technology.

  • @SecurityVaultYt
    @SecurityVaultYt 2 роки тому +6

    #1 Podcast on UA-cam, Jack your content is always dope. Keep it coming

  • @LEGnewTube
    @LEGnewTube 2 роки тому +1

    Barbrah, "I got scammed, and for that reason, I'm out."

  • @AbdiPianoChannel
    @AbdiPianoChannel 2 роки тому +1

    Just read between the lines. A scammer will try hard to earn your trust. If you pay attention to the scammers attempt to lure you in, I'm sure you will pick up the scammers attempt. Scammers are humans too. Most of them will lose their patience very quickly. They will ask you to send them money eg. Money for delivery charges. Always have a long conversation or simply hang up and block the number

  • @Everrrrr
    @Everrrrr 2 роки тому +1

    What a great video. Ive been a type 1 diabetic since 7, Im 32 now. For the last 5 years Ive been using a pump and CGM ( Continuous glucose monitoring) a bluetooth sensor you wear on your arm. And when it was said you could hack a pump and cause it to overdose thats freaking scary. But how Im wondering? The pump communicates with the CGM to tell it your sugar via bluetooth and theres an algorithm that calculates if you need slightly more or less insulin. Even if the CGM was hacked to say your blood sugar was say, 300 it might give you a unit or 2 of insulin to compensate for the (hacked) blood sugar, but thats not enough to overdose. NOW I saw this feature come out in the last month where you can remotely give insulin on your pump by pairing it with your phone and my first thought was Nooooo way dude, dont trust that at all. Thats how you get hacked..
    Anyway, im trying to think of the vernability of the pump. I know it has the ability to communicate via bluetooth but theres a page on the pump that allows you to turn that on or off.. That feature is used to connect it with your phone to show your CGM data (blood sugar). Also, even if bluetooth is turned off on the pump its still able to connect and work with the CGM (via bluetooth). Bluetooth would have to be the vernability but even if that was comprimised theres no way they could give insulin, given the way bluetooth interacts with the pump, its designed to send information about your blood sugar not operate the large doses of the pump. If the pump was connected to a phone or app that allows you to give insulin (a bolus) then yeah the awnsers right there. But without a way to operate the pump's screens remotely, I dont see a vernability.

    • @niteriderevo9179
      @niteriderevo9179 Рік тому

      if the Bluetooth comms between the two devices aren't secured, could have a device MITM, replay or a good few other attacks out there for the link and play heck with both ends..

    • @bookofthewarsofthelord9273
      @bookofthewarsofthelord9273 Рік тому

      Just my opinion but if you are in a position where you could cause discomfort or overdose based on a sensor reading why not confirm the reading the old fashion way by pin pricking?

  • @corydiamond511
    @corydiamond511 2 роки тому +1

    This guy was sounding really familiar , sounds like Tom Morello from rage against the machine.

  • @eyreland
    @eyreland 10 днів тому

    New Madrid Sequence
    Indeed, tearing of the St. Lawrence Seaway will occur during the New Madrid adjustment. Because the lurch of Mexico to the west actually intensifies the bowing of the North American continent, the Seaway tears open. This is actually various adjustments at weak points along the Seaway rather than the tearing apart into a larger inland bay that occurs during the pole shift itself.
    Niagara Falls will remain, but some of the inland locks will break. When the upper Mississippi region finds the land to its west slipping down and to the southwest, those parts north which were formerly firmly attached find they can spring northward, as the pressure from the bow had been inclining them to do. This allows the edge of the rip, at Duluth, MN, to tear further inland, with consequent rumpling in S Dakota and minor shifting of ground in all parts in between.
    There is general confusion about our predicted Earth changes. This is most often envisioned as happening all at once, suddenly, without warning. Where earthquakes and stretch zone accidents do seem to happen almost without warning, their approach is never that silent. The N American continent has been getting these warnings for some time, with increasing intensity.
    Quake swams in the New Madrid region and west of this spot have been occurring, and are on the increase. Sinkholes and shifting roadways are occurring from Pennsylvania through Tennessee and elsewhere. The center of the bow being formed by the North American continent, the San Diego area, has an epidemic of water main breaks, and the snapping rock inland from this point has affected a mine in Utah. None of this is officially ascribed to the New Madrid adjustment that is pending, though FEMA gives evidence of their nervous preparations for the disaster they know is pending.
    Will the New Madrid just suddenly rip with our predicted magnitude 9 quake? Hardly. There will be a progression of quakes in the magnitude 4-5 range all along the New Madrid fault line, which runs up to the Great Lakes and thence along the seaway. The bow will become more stressed, cracking rock inland from San Diego all the way to the Mississippi, and forcing adjustments north and south of this point too, from the Aleutian Islands to the tip of Mexico.
    Sinkholes and crevasses will proliferate throughout the US in her stretch zones, in a swath that ranges from the New England states south to the tip of Florida and all points west. This is a large bow. Then quakes will increase to the point of being considered magnitude 6-7 along the long New Madrid fault line and its attendant splinters. The New Madrid adjustment will thus not sneak up on you, but will be well announced.
    Keweenawan Rift
    One can see the etiology of the New Madrid slip and the widening Seaway by looking at the underlying rock strata. The Keweenawan Rift is solid rock formed by hardened volcanic eruption eons ago. It curls around Wisconsin at the top and connects the point where the Seaway is ripping into Duluth, MN and fault lines in Kansas. The Keweenawan Rift lies alongside, parallel to, the Humboldt Fault.
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  • @frankjohnson8750
    @frankjohnson8750 Рік тому +2

    I dont understand why, no matter how big the network, why can't you just 'pentest' each new device on the way into the network? Seems to me the only time it could get tricky is if a lot of new and different kinds of things are being added to the network, but still, ease in each new device, both on the way in and once it/they are in. 🤔 What am I missing here?
    Good show btw 👌 👏 👍

  • @Foiliagegaming
    @Foiliagegaming 2 роки тому

    I listened to this on Apple Podcasts. Great episode.

  • @History-Of-The-Day
    @History-Of-The-Day Рік тому +2

    Please find stories of chips in the body being hacked.
    Be it a person or pet... It's definitely possible in at least some...

  • @TTTorpedOOO
    @TTTorpedOOO 2 роки тому +1

    This channel is … MAXIM!

  • @avounca1681
    @avounca1681 9 місяців тому

    Hey Jack, your show is awesome! I listen too much probably.
    I want to say…this is of course just a suggestion. It would be cool to see like animated series..maybe from the stories that you gather. You’re narrating and the animations are super cool with the color theme and everything. If you ever put thought to it, I’d pay to see that

  • @DavidRockin1
    @DavidRockin1 2 роки тому +1

    Sleep can wait, a new episode just dropped! 💙

  • @yanki1224
    @yanki1224 2 роки тому +2

    I got scammed and for that reason, i'm out.
    Barbara Probably.

  • @decklanhobbins575
    @decklanhobbins575 2 роки тому +3

    Keep up the awesome work jack. My favourite episodes are Xbox underground I’ve watched part 1 and 2 3 times each

  • @n00b12345678901
    @n00b12345678901 2 роки тому

    Best podcast EVER!

  • @Mr_Duck_RVA
    @Mr_Duck_RVA Рік тому

    Excellent episode

  • @NarutoUzumaki-vc4wy
    @NarutoUzumaki-vc4wy Рік тому

    Watching this as my Hospital is currently under cyber attack

  • @chelseachampions3492
    @chelseachampions3492 2 роки тому

    Great work dude…… ur pods are my favs

  • @pennyisretired
    @pennyisretired 2 роки тому

    Great episode, thank you!

  • @anycombo
    @anycombo Рік тому +1

    What I find most disturbing is the simple fact that Windows is used in so many mission critical environments.
    Bizarrely nonsensical.

  • @Jesse_Johnson
    @Jesse_Johnson Рік тому +1

    Hmmm. Slow it down just a tad and drop it half and octave and it sure sounds like OccupyTheWeb… same vocal patterns.

  • @Nate-ww8dl
    @Nate-ww8dl 2 роки тому

    My mouth dropped to the floor listening to this

  • @George-bg8qt
    @George-bg8qt 2 роки тому +1

    The right email in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world :p

  • @demantoid418
    @demantoid418 2 роки тому

    Thank you 🙂

  • @CapsLock33
    @CapsLock33 2 роки тому

    love the stories. keep them up!!!

  • @mustangnawt1
    @mustangnawt1 Рік тому

    Scary, just scary

  • @garrett3117
    @garrett3117 2 роки тому

    My God, terrifying.

  • @jpandv3
    @jpandv3 2 роки тому

    Interesting info and channel.

  • @s1140285
    @s1140285 2 роки тому

    Finally you get a SANs guy on here! I've been to several SANs events, they're all a blast, tons of cool info.

  • @zebralion6396
    @zebralion6396 2 роки тому

    Cool stuff !

  • @martinmwathi
    @martinmwathi 2 роки тому

    Nice work

  • @simo9445tsns
    @simo9445tsns 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @djombock
    @djombock 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Jack!

  • @h0ck3yphreak
    @h0ck3yphreak 2 роки тому

    RIP Barnaby Jack 😢

  • @518trey1
    @518trey1 2 роки тому

    News caster whose never touched xterm: it’s a electronic con.
    Us: it’s phishing but okay buddy call phishing what you want. Imma go cast my nets 😂

  • @nyeowsz
    @nyeowsz Рік тому

    I do adblock on yt but i would turn it off for this channel. Too good contents.

  • @wthxrsh
    @wthxrsh Рік тому

    Insane

  • @codercrisYT
    @codercrisYT 2 роки тому +1

    I love to watch these videos before I do my black hat stuff on the internet 😆😂

  • @anonymousbritishcolumbia
    @anonymousbritishcolumbia 2 роки тому

    Your in Victoria ?

  • @harrickvharrick3957
    @harrickvharrick3957 Рік тому

    Did I hear correctly his/their name was and is "Sands" pen testing? No relation to (...) ???! *
    *Yeah... to the BIG Sands, of course!! The casino, that has a story of their own here, in this brilliant series... a complete episode... on how THEY got hacked no less!! 😅

  • @Wreckz_Tea
    @Wreckz_Tea 2 роки тому +2

    I doubt things like this will ALWAYS be a problem. Programs could be made in combination with AI to learn who you speak to regularly online through email and things like that. Then point out to someone when they are receiving an email from someone they dont normally talk to. Maybe it could even point out differences in the email address. Maybe it could also be trained on known phishing attacks from the past and notify the user when an email you are reading looks similar to known phishing attacks and warn you to pay close attention. Maybe automatically notify you when an email is asking for personal or important information and just warn you to double check who you're speaking to. And if it contains a link, again, warn you. Or maybe even automatically scan the link and show a pop up window clearly displaying where the link takes you and warn if it's a suspicious link...theres all kinds of ways. If I were intelligent enough or knowledgeable in coding I would make an app for that and be a freaking baller

  • @XxfishpastexX
    @XxfishpastexX 2 роки тому

    they last story is creepy…

  • @AudioOasisOfficial
    @AudioOasisOfficial 2 роки тому

    41:32 Loool

  • @Nightfighter82
    @Nightfighter82 2 роки тому

    It looks like all of your videos are down off Darknet Diaries. But they are re-added here.

  • @Premier-Media-Group
    @Premier-Media-Group 2 роки тому

    Linus from LTT also fell victim to a very similar scheme. I believe his loss was under $100k, but don't recall exactly.
    He put out a few videos explaining it all, including the process to try and repair the damage, working with the banks, etc.

  • @growingtogether35
    @growingtogether35 2 роки тому

    I don't care to check my email and I warn random people ahead of time if their gig's sending me links I am not the one ;)

  • @wsbwsb1951
    @wsbwsb1951 2 роки тому

    good.

  • @solaruspragmatic2366
    @solaruspragmatic2366 Рік тому

    facebook its a delivery

  • @truckslove
    @truckslove 2 роки тому

    Phishing/digital con job, tomato/tomato

  • @timebong8366
    @timebong8366 Рік тому

    Lol that crap show scams people to begin with, shark tank. I call it karma.

  • @lateral1385
    @lateral1385 2 роки тому

    0:12 “Barbara CuhCORan” 😜

  • @FoolishnessDanteeee
    @FoolishnessDanteeee 2 роки тому

    Jackary Cider 🍹

  • @jc-tu6pg
    @jc-tu6pg 2 роки тому +1

    Felt like these hackers were trying to make much out of nothing. Like they wanted to feel important

  • @t-yoonit
    @t-yoonit Рік тому

    Algorithm boost

  • @All-tar
    @All-tar 2 роки тому +1

    :))))))

  • @ginz9r
    @ginz9r 2 роки тому

    Algorithm comment

  • @kly8105
    @kly8105 Рік тому

    Who is so bad at just common sense to call a show a reality show just because it has real people and it's not scripted?
    Reality shows are by definition (aside from horrible) shows that display a real individual's everyday life, Shark Tank is a business show and the only show that shows people working that ever came close to the level of a reality show's privacy invasion was The Apprentice, and that still was not a reality show. Yeah I get that they might be called that by networks but that's just lazy.

  • @teamunfair5096
    @teamunfair5096 2 роки тому

    COol

  • @fauxhound5061
    @fauxhound5061 2 роки тому

    While I love the stories and in depth analysis, I don't like the dramatic talk.

  • @danieltaylor2873
    @danieltaylor2873 Рік тому

    Re used content, is this channel going to just repeat shit in a hundred different ways

  • @wesser3214
    @wesser3214 2 роки тому

    Interesting, the whole dark theme is edgy and cringy af though

  • @History-Of-The-Day
    @History-Of-The-Day Рік тому

    I've always wanted to learn to hack.
    When I was about 12 I coded my first and actually only website I built that way...
    I have some experience in website creation. But that's mostly like a third party site builder.
    I wish I had the link to my first website tho.
    Or even knew if it was still active...
    You couldn't really do much on it. Basically just a test to see if I could even get a website active enough to look at a page. So I got a home page online.
    Then over about a weeks time I added a couple side pages..(contact us... About us... And then a blog type page that a user couldn't comment or react to.) But it was more of a list of my random studies and findings playing around online.
    It was so frustrating to do at first. And really throughout the whole process.
    I gotta say tho... I didn't "write any code"
    I simply got the idea of what I wanted.. and web searched existing codes that were at least very close to what I was after.
    Hours and hours of searching.
    And just as long to figure out exactly where to place these codes to get em to do what I was after...
    As a 12 year old. With absolutely zero coding or anything passed "basic computer skills"
    I am SUPER proud of myself for that.
    I never had a teacher for any of it.
    Always been a do it yourself kinda guy