Hey just a small correction... at 3:15 bag[v] matches voicing, bag[f] would be a candidate that violates both given constraints, for bag[v] we would need an even higher condition, say "keep the segments as close as the original one" (AKA faithness as we have in "keep same sounds").
Thank you so much for this video! I often want to touch very, very briefly on OT in my language unit when teaching undergrad cog psych or psych of language classes. Students have often heard about rule-based approaches and not OT (especially if they don't have a real background in linguistics). I love how accessible you make this topic. It's perfect for a 5-minute intro to OT!
Thank you! I understand this though you could have gone into more detail about the * and ! and the Tableau in terms of the *SS, Agree, Max, Dep and Indent. I wanted to know why the constraints are not rules too, so this was good to watch. Really simple and now I fully understand with your example.
This explains a lot about ASL. I've wondered how researchers can simply not have a conclusive answer to "are raised eyebrows syntax or inflection?" in a language actively used by so many people today. Also how it's so easy to learn, despite being TTC (rather than the SVO of English and Spanish I'm used to).
Hey! Could you link me some papers or text on ASL and phonology? Or what you were referring to in the comment? It sounds super interesting, and is something I haven't thought about before. Thank you!
Two naïve questions: 1) Does Optimality Theory ever applies outside of phonology? 2) What might be some differences between constraints and conditioned rules (rules with condition(al)s in them)?
+Jinjie Dong Thank you! To your first question, I think most papers are published in phonology, but OT has been applied to syntax. I don't know if it applies outside of linguistics, but I did once read a paper using OT to explain ethics! Logical conditionals (implications) demand that if "thing 1" is true, then "thing 2" must follow. Constraints make no such demands - "thing 2" can in principle always be violated. That's at least one example of a difference.
I'm assuming that language change comes about under optimality theory due to changing constraints, most likely to a new generation of speakers that assume a mutated constraint hierarchy, since constraint hierarchies are usually implicit rather than explicit. The imperfections of most writing systems to represent spoken languages probably contributes a bit to the mutations, though I imagine it mostly slows them down.
Thank you for the video, which is very informative and clear! Would you mind explaining a bit more about the "markedness constraints - ones that shape words and sounds"
Γειαα, με βοηθάς πολύ με τα βίντεό σου, η Γλωσσολογία ειναι ΤΕΛΕΙΑ. Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ! Translation if you don't speak Modern Greek: :D Heyy, you help me a lot with your videos, Linguistics is AMAZING. Thank you very very much!
Plz will it be possible for you make a short video or explain the dependeat case theory framework I am not able understand it I am trying my level hard I am reading marantzs Case and licensing
Which is the most simple language on earth in terms of grammar? Is there a language that has almost no grammar? like without conjugation, cases, plurals, tenses and all those stuff
"going to sleep" a constraint process - just too brilliant!!
Very happy to hear that. Thanks for the kind words!
Hey just a small correction... at 3:15 bag[v] matches voicing, bag[f] would be a candidate that violates both given constraints, for bag[v] we would need an even higher condition, say "keep the segments as close as the original one" (AKA faithness as we have in "keep same sounds").
Thank you so much for this video! I often want to touch very, very briefly on OT in my language unit when teaching undergrad cog psych or psych of language classes. Students have often heard about rule-based approaches and not OT (especially if they don't have a real background in linguistics). I love how accessible you make this topic. It's perfect for a 5-minute intro to OT!
Thank you! I understand this though you could have gone into more detail about the * and ! and the Tableau in terms of the *SS, Agree, Max, Dep and Indent. I wanted to know why the constraints are not rules too, so this was good to watch. Really simple and now I fully understand with your example.
This explains a lot about ASL. I've wondered how researchers can simply not have a conclusive answer to "are raised eyebrows syntax or inflection?" in a language actively used by so many people today. Also how it's so easy to learn, despite being TTC (rather than the SVO of English and Spanish I'm used to).
Hey! Could you link me some papers or text on ASL and phonology? Or what you were referring to in the comment? It sounds super interesting, and is something I haven't thought about before. Thank you!
Hey, this guy's pretty good. He should make more linguistics videos.
That was exquisitely explained!
Two naïve questions:
1) Does Optimality Theory ever applies outside of phonology?
2) What might be some differences between constraints and conditioned rules (rules with condition(al)s in them)?
Also, thanks for the great video!
+Jinjie Dong Thank you!
To your first question, I think most papers are published in phonology, but OT has been applied to syntax. I don't know if it applies outside of linguistics, but I did once read a paper using OT to explain ethics!
Logical conditionals (implications) demand that if "thing 1" is true, then "thing 2" must follow. Constraints make no such demands - "thing 2" can in principle always be violated. That's at least one example of a difference.
thanks a lot. it is 2019 and tomorrow I have an exam but I had no idea about optimality theory. your video make it clear to me! again thank you
whoooffff! what an explanation! wonderful!
I'm assuming that language change comes about under optimality theory due to changing constraints, most likely to a new generation of speakers that assume a mutated constraint hierarchy, since constraint hierarchies are usually implicit rather than explicit.
The imperfections of most writing systems to represent spoken languages probably contributes a bit to the mutations, though I imagine it mostly slows them down.
OT just made sense! Thank you.
Amazing job. Thank you!
Thank you for the video, which is very informative and clear! Would you mind explaining a bit more about the "markedness constraints - ones that shape words and sounds"
Γειαα, με βοηθάς πολύ με τα βίντεό σου, η Γλωσσολογία ειναι ΤΕΛΕΙΑ.
Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ!
Translation if you don't speak Modern Greek: :D
Heyy, you help me a lot with your videos, Linguistics is AMAZING.
Thank you very very much!
Great, thanks again!
Thank you
Plz will it be possible for you make a short video or explain the dependeat case theory framework I am not able understand it I am trying my level hard I am reading marantzs Case and licensing
.I am doing my Phd in syntax
?Can apply OT and make it my framework or Minimalist program is better
Thanks for the video
You're welcome. I don't know. How much success have syntacticians have had with OT?
I wish you great luck with your program!
Check out Ellen Woolford's and Geraldine Legendre's work on OT syntax!
This constraints based vs. Rules based separates naive and idealistic people from pragmatics with life experience.
ez a videó nagyon jó.
This is Beautiful
Very kind, thank you!
That sounds like fun.
Do make a detailed video
Tyvm for this video it helps a lot .
Is there any way to contact you for some issues related to language learning! ?
bdbdo 4545 Glad to hear it! You can reply here or directly on my channel (ua-cam.com/users/nativlang "about" tab), which has a "send message" button.
i don't understand pleasee help me
gr8 vid
+StudyingInFinlandVlogs Thanks! How's Finland? :D
Which is the most simple language on earth in terms of grammar?
Is there a language that has almost no grammar?
like without conjugation, cases, plurals, tenses and all those stuff
Levente Maier grammar is an essential part of all languages
I still can't understand :-(
2020 anyone?