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0:00 Intro
2:50 Iron Ranger History
4:12 Muleskinner leather info
4:40 Leather burning
5:16 Snakebite test
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7:25 Construction
8:29 Outsole puncture test
9:14 Cut in half
10:07 Comparison to 2020 model
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Can you tell me the model that’s looked a lot like this boot, toe cap, color the same but it had a padded top collar and a more aggressive/thicker sole?
I bough them in early 2000’s
In Germany we have good shoemakers as well, but the Red Wing Iron Ranger is the most comfortable boot i have. I will "pimp" it with a midsole to make it more durable. Fortunately i have a good old school shoemaker who will do the job. Good channel. Greetings from Germany and sorry for my bad english. It's long time ago i have been in the USA 😅
is there something you could recommend? I'm searching for good boots here in Germany, but I cannot find any yet, I'm new here and the only thing I found was Red Wings. Greetings from Berlin.
@@Morderisch97 Red Wings Iron Ranger is definately a good boot. And in Berlin is a Shop which sells White Boots, i think. Expensive, but damn good. The shop is called Burg&Schild. Viel Spaß in Berlin und beste Grüße
Your English is just fine! 😊
@@tobiasniemann8946Burg & Schild is Truely the best place if you want to find the highest quality imports! Great Boots/ Leather & Denim. Love that shop!
Iron rangers were my first nicer boot... i bought them to get married in, i delivered my daughter while wearing them, and after 10 years, i dont wear them as much anymore, but they hold lots of memories.
Weston, THANK YOU for always inserting the history of the shoe and boots. Also, thank you for always trying to be honest and up front on pros and cons of the footwear. I love the videos!
I have four pairs of Iron Rangers with the Slate Muleskinners being my most recent ones. I feel reassured seeing you run these boots through the paces because as you note, they're not cheap, but I don't mind paying for quality materials and made in the USA craftsmanship. And for me, I just love the look of the Iron Ranger - it's still my favorite. Thanks for another great analysis.
Why not mix it up?
@@aaron___6014 I have a few pairs of Moc Toes and Chelseas and other boots, but I happen to be quite fond of the Iron Ranger look, so I have it in multiple colors. I'm just one of those people.
@@cjk5115 nothing wrong with that at all. The Iron Ranger platform is an incredibly attractive design to myself as well, and this slate colorway takes it over the edge
I’ve had my Iron Rangers for 10 years. Best boots ever! Quality, comfort, durability, looks!
I bought a pair about 18 months ago and they’re my first pair of so called quality boots. I’m certainly no expert on boots but I love my pair.
It's encouraging to see them are still being built the same. I have a pair of 8111 seconds and even though they are a little narrow, I love them (I just wear them with thin Darn Tough socks). The leather is fantastic.
I have taken both pairs of iron rangers that I own and have had them custom bottomed at Wyatt and Sons. A double midsole with a Vibram Cork bottom and a single mid sole with a Dr Sole Half sole both are substantial improvements in comfort and looks. Love them both ! Great boots. My IR wingtips are my favorites.
I just got a pair of Iron Rangers and I'm blown away by the quality of these boots! Love your channel, so much helpful information I can use! I just subscribed!
I'd been planning on getting a pair of African Rangers ever since they were first announced once one of my current pairs of boots wore out. Seeing this extra special version made me decide to get them now. It's not like they will go bad if I get them earlier than expected ;-)
Thanks for introducing me to the brand Rose Anvil, and thanks Jim Green for being a product I can feel good about buying
I've had a pair of the Amber Harness Iron Rangers since 2016, and they're still going strong! When I first got them I wasn't really aware of proper leather boot care and wore them every day for over 6 months through rain and all sorts of conditions hiking too. The heels started coming un-tacked due to the rand disintegrating. A local cobbler was able to replace the rand and heels. The insole also started curling up around the toes. I later had a full bottom down rework done on them, new insole, V100 lug sole with a leather midsole and storm welt and they are fantastic. My go-to harsh weather boot. I now use cedar shoe trees with them and let them dry out if they get wet.
I've had my iron rangers for 10 years now, in rotation with lots of other shoes and boots, and they're still beasts. Original nitrile cork sole is still solid, despite the heels getting pretty rounded. Beautiful patina, fit like a glove.
Yup I still have mine exactly what you're talking about. They are 15 years old and they're holding up beautifully.
Add me to that list!
@@DB-qm4jx 15 years？ What about the heels? Did you replace them? I’ve been wearing my 8085 for 2 years and the heels kinda need to be replaced.
@@dimitrimuhammad6315 red wing has a repair program, gotta contact them
I’ve had mine for about 16 months and I think they’re still improving.
I love my iron rangers! Weston's original review convinced me to go out and get a pair and I'm so glad I did. I've been wearing them daily for the past 4 months and I love that they are wearing in and not wearing out. Which is a very different experience compared to every other show I've ever worn!
I bought these (in smooth, black leather) as my first pair of boots a few months ago. I was hesitant dropping this much on footwear, it was my first time paying more than probably $80 for anything I’d put on my feet and I was really skeptical it’d be worth it.
That said, they’ve been incredibly functional, comfortable, and good looking boots and I’ve not once regretted my purchase. I’m happy to see that a true professional also has such a positive opinion of them.
I was looking to get the same ones. Have you tried them in dress slacks? You think they’d work for that?
@@BruceWayne-xu5bjthey won't. Pick up a pair of kenton cap toe or thursdays if you need a dress-hybrid boot for cheap, and wear the IR for every other occasion
Thanks Weston! Your generosity is much appreciated!
I have 2 Grant Stones, 3 Red Wings, 3 Allen Edmonds, Tecovas and two Thursday’s, I can say that my Iron Rangers are my favorites. Amazing boots. Worth every nickel.
The original Iron Ranger video was what led me to this channel back around April 2020(I think). I was looking in to buying my first pair of nicer boots and Iron Rangers were on the top of my list so I turned to UA-cam for reviews. Low and behold there was your video, which not only gave me the confidence to pull the trigger on buying the pair, but it gave me an addiction to your videos that I still haven't shaken all this time later!
Awesome to see they're still worth it, and awesome to have watched your channel grow over the years.
You've actually cost me a great deal of money, since you've convinced me to buy a pair of Nicks, Whites as well.
Great content and thanks for the guidance. I bought my Nicks and Thursdays because of your reviews. Keep up the good work.
Ive been wearing iron rangers for about six months straight right now, eight hours a day walking on my feet inside. So far they've actually exceeded my expectations, the only downside to these boots so far is that they are COLD. Do not expect to wear these outside below freezing all day. Even if you're only outside for a few hours you'll need some thermal socks. They are surprisingly good in snow and slush and even ice.
The other thing I will say is that I found a lot of the youtubers underselling the break in period. These take about 160 hours to fully break in, anyone telling you 40 hours is full of it. After a month or so, they actually get quite comfortable.
I was wearing mine full time after 3 days lol. Break in period can definately varry.
@@TheTurpin1234 I wore them everyday from when I purchased them. Took about a month of 8 hour workdays. After three days you won't even have the leather insole forming to your foot.
My blacksmiths, which are the same last, took about 4 months of daily wear to finally break in completely, however they were slightly narrow for my feet.
Same boat here! 5 months old, about 40 miles a week on the boots. It took a solid 2 months to really feel broken in. Love my pair
Still waiting on my to break in 😭
Glad to hear these new Iron Rangers are built just like the old ones. I’ve been considering picking up a pair of these, and this may have tipped my decision
Wasn't aware of a second channel. Subbed and on board it's also another clever way of spreading the word. Had no idea these boots were so well made and cost a premium. Good luck to all the humans that enter!
The Loden Iron ranger crepe sole is the best Iron ranger ever built. If you can find a pair, buy them. The most comfortable boot I've ever worn
Iron rangers are not cheap here in Switzerland, we pay more than in the US, but it was worth for me the price. Your videos guided me in that buy decision and I never regretted it.
Love your videos, Weston, and the humbleness of your presentation. I own a pair Iron Rangers and a pair of 1907s. The IRs are the least comfortable after break in of the 1907s. I owned two other pairs of IRs but donated them to charity because of QC issues. I respect that the IRs are well-built for the price, but wearing higher priced boots make my feet and my head feel better. My Red Wings have become my choice for manual labor, which I make every effort to avoid.
Bought a pair last October and they’re my favorite boot so far. Very comfortable after being broken in.
Thank you, nice to re visit a review of the same boots. IMO this will do good for booters like me, and the boot makers, you keep them on the top of their toes. Much love!
I’ve had my Iron Ranger 8085s for a little over a year, and have taken them on many 15 mile off trail hikes and love them, the only thing I’d have to say is they are slick on big rocks or snow, once I resolve them I will have the v-100 outsole put on for sure.
Just got my wife a pair of Iron Rangers! She's joining the cult of "good quality boots" 😂
If your wife wears Iron Rangers that ain't your wife that's your husband
Nice! Did you notice the heel isn't nailed on?
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 Nice, sexism running rampant in the comment section. Way to show your ass, buddy.
One of us... one of us...
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 they make a women's version, smarty pants.
Thanks for doing this! I've been wondering about the more recent Iron rangers as I want to get some. This is definitely making me lean more in favor for them
I just bought a pair of Iron Rangers about a month ago now and I love them. Never thought I'd be that guy who loves his boots but I am. I also just got one of your wallets Weston. You are invaluable. Thank you!
Thanks for the review! Hoping these will restock again soon so I can pick up a pair! 🤞
I got the Blacksmiths in CRT and I’m still impressed of how well built they feel. I think they’re worth it, but they were a very conscious and informed decision.
@@clintonmccool2330
From time to time they make a run and update their website, I snatched a second pair of blacksmiths CRT like two months or so ago, but they go out of stock fast.
@@clintonmccool2330 try truman boots
The crt is nubuck tho right? Not full grain?
I purchased my first pair of iron rangers about two weeks ago. They were probably twice as much as I’ve ever spent on boots but in all honesty they really feel worth it. I would strongly recommend going to a shop and trying them on rather than just buying on line. The guys in Red Wing London were quite happy for me to try lots of boots to find the perfect fit. The ones purchased feel like they were custom made. If you can appreciate well made classic design these are right up your street.
I also purchased my first pair of Iron Rangers about 2 weeks ago in London! Totally wild, loving my boots so far and really putting them through their paces. Big up to the people working at the London store, truly helpful with making a good decision on boots.
Repectfully, it takes a year's, or at least a season's, wear to know if a boot purchase was worth it.
@@semilog643 What do you look for after a year?
As always.... awesome review. I love my IR's and think they are a classic for me. Happy Holidays!
I bought Iron rangers 8085 a year ago in Red wing shoes Vienna and I am extremely satisfied with them, I am always happy with them and the longer I wear them, the better they look... I love them
Got my Iron Rangers a month ago.
Use them as work boots in commercial construction. Got them on my feet for at least 14 hours a day. Absolutely love them.
I’ve had mine for a little over a year now. They’ve stood up to everything I can throw at them on the shipping dock. Solid boot and I would buy them again.
I've owned my iron rangers for 6 months. Most comfortable boots out of the box I have ever owned. Never a blister and no break-in period. I wear them 10,000 steps a day. I can't say the same thing for my mock toe red wings! They have never been real comfortable to me.
I absolutely love my Iron Rangers, I've been wearing this pair pushing 1 year and they have broken in so nicely and I continue to love them more and more over time. Of course they were very uncomfortable the first couple weeks but after the break in time they become glove like and it's a boot I feel proud to wear, I can dress the up or down which is another plus
I love watching your channel..very informative about boots and quality leathers..HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
I absolutely love my IRs. Had them for 4 years, and they look better and become more comfortable over time. I love them.
I’ve had the black harness Iron Rangers for 3 years now. I had the mini lug sole changed out to a Vibram v-100 lug sole. They fit like an old glove at this point. A little conditioner and a brush here and there and they still look as great as when I got them and can see them lasting for years still. So, when taking that into consideration I feel that they’re a good value. Thanks for the great reviews as always!
Mine are 1 hour new. Breaking them in this week. I went with the amber so I can buff them up nice. Thanks for all you do.
I bought my first pair of Iron Rangers in part because of this channel. My heart though lies with the Chelsea boot. I Now have around 9 pairs of R.M Williams.
I've had my pair of redwings for over 3 years and they're holding up really well . I own Nick's and White's now but I still use my redwings quite often ( especially when I don't feel like lugging all the weight of those pnw boots around) . Love my iron rangers.
Same have 7 pairs of various Redwings, have moved onto Nick's and John Lofgren, but my 877s and 8111s still make it into my rotation.
@@taylorsukoshi6126 I already wore Whites and am hoping for a pair of Nicks as well. Recently I got a pair of 8146 as a gift from my wife and am enjoying them. Quality boot at a very good price without the investment of a PNW boot
what size iron rangers do you wear, and what size are you in Nick's? I'd love a pair of Nick's but waiting 30 weeks for a custom boot to not fit perfectly is a little scary to me. I'm on the east coast and have no way to try on a pair before ordering.
Ive hiked for the whole day in my 8085s
Through mud and water , they are not warm by any means but they protect your foot with stability and ruggedness.
And they're stylish. I really like how hard the vibram out sole is , you don't feel any uneven terrain what so ever I.e. sharp rocks and stuff.
This channel is beyond informative. No brand can hide lower quality components and corners cut craftsmanship with a simple bandsaw laying around.
I have all four Iron Rangers that come in wide for myself, and purchased in a half size larger the slate muleskinners. Unfortunately they were still too tight, so my son got them instead. I feel like they really are the best boot one step below the PNW boots and with the cobblers around the world who will resole or even recraft, they are probably the best heritage brand model in their niche. That being said, I think a lot of newcomer brands like Grant Stone provide a lot of the other styles with similar level of quality and rebuildability for long life.
Thanks for the videos of all the brands you've done, they help making informed purchases easy!
Love that style of Boot !
So classic going back decades !
I bought a pair of Redwings Style 8911 in Amber based on your original video for these boots. I absolutely love them!
I own a pair of the 8606 ivory ones. And I absolutely love them, I have had them for 2 years or so and I always get a compliment when I wear them.
Bought my Rangers back in May and they've been my work daily drivers ever since. My job isn't physically demanding but it is all-weather, and they've taken everything I've thrown at them like a champ, including winter ice, slush and salt.
Absolutely worth the price; so much that I'm considering a second pair.
Just found a lightly used pair for $70. Happily paid the $20 for shipping
Can’t wait to see how it holds up
Like yourself. Sticking to heritage. Continue to put together a great video that doesn't meander around, gives the points, and love the history.
I bought my pair of Iron Rangers last month. I fully recommend these boots to everyone. The break in period was not bad at all. Only hotspot was the heel but after one week of wear it was gone.
Recently bought my first pair of IR amber harness and i'm in love with them, first day after wearing immediately ordered the black harness. What a boot
Ive been binge watching this channel and I think it’s about to cost me some bank… love the vibe here. Thx
I’ve had my Iron Rangers for a decade. They have definitely held up, and I still have the original soles on them. I wear them in rotation, but they are on my feet for seven eight hour days. They are also my go to boots when I am working around my house. I have Wescos, Whites, and Truman boots. The Iron Rangers have proved to be just as tough.
I don’t understand how you guys get so much lifespan out of them. I just walked though my second pair of iron rangers, bought them in May and wore them almost everyday working 50-60 hours a week doing hvac service/install. Sole stitching on both sides of the “ball” area of the soles is worn away and the sole is starting to separate. I spend a lot of time crouched/squatted/duck walking which I know contributes to the wear, but I can’t buy another pair after this second one has gone so quickly.
@@millenialmemoirsyeah, you are wearing them much harder than I wear my Iron Rangers. It’s unfortunate they aren’t holding up for you.
@misfitpilgrim7967 I wear mine 50 to 60 hours a week doing pest control. I'm bending, stooping, climbing, and sometimes crawling with them on. I have had mine for about 2 years give or take. I'm thinking about having them re soled next year. Hands down toughest boot I've put on my feet.
@@brandonross4742 glad to hear you are getting better results. I’m going to get my pair resoled and keep them as a casual “around town” boot and see how these heavy lugged thousand mile boots do for work.
The history of the boots is always so nice
Bought these muleskinners a few weeks back and really like them. My second pair of Iron Rangers so they’re doing something right!
Another great video Weston, thank you! I’ve had a pair of 8111 IRs for 4 plus years and a pair of 8138 Moc Toes for two plus years. These are my only two pairs of boots (other than snow gear), so they get A LOT of wear. The moc toes are much more comfortable underfoot, but the outsole wears much faster. I also think the mocs are a little more versatile as the IRs strike me as more of a pure workbook look. I also much prefer the leather lined vamp in the mocs over the cotton lining in the IRs, which is showing some wear and likes to hang onto moisture. Overall, I agree with you that the mocs seem like a somewhat better value. I’m probably a few months away from needing a resole on the 8111s, so I plan to have my local cobbler add a leather midsole and use a slightly softer outsole. I think doing that will move the IRs to the next level. Certainly they should be a lot more comfortable underfoot.
I'm wearing mine right now. Still to this day haven't seen anyone else in the UK with a pair.
I'm sure you're out there!
I've been hesitant about buying a new pair of IR because I was wondering if they were cutting corners... Now, I feel comfortable making the purchase. Thank you !!
I’ve had my brown ones for 3 years now, thought I wouldn’t need another pair since they’re still in great condition but this grey color looks awesome.
Had mine since 2015. Resoled once and still in great shape. Got another 5 years in them. The tongue is the only thing that is wearing down from the upper lace hooks.
Got some rangers about 2 years ago after your initial review. They are easily my favourite boots and (true to the name) they wear like iron.
I love the slate muleskinner. I have a bunch of PNW boots that I generally would rate way higher than Iron Rangers, but this color looks so nice I may have to pick up a pair anyway if they ever make these in the wider width.
I have mine for about 14 years now and still they are doing great. Did one resole
I have had about 4-5 pairs of iron rangers over the years. Currently only have two left. The Amber Harness and Black. Still some of my favorites to this day. Considering they were my first pair of "real" boots. Glad to see they're still constructing the boots with the same quality materials they have been using. Lately I've moved on to the PNW brands. First pair was Nicks Builder Pros. Next was JK OT boots. Just got my second pair of Builder Pros in. And waiting on a pair of Superdutys and Forefronts from JK as well.
I’ve had my ox blood rangers for a few years now. In my opinion they are by far the best boot I have ever had and would highly recommend them to anyone.
Worth the hype imo. I bought a pair in black last year and I love them.
As I don't like the price increase, I was able to get a pair in oxblood color for Christmas. Love it!
I just got my second pair of iron rangers this fall. I could only wear them for a couple weeks before it started snowing but they seemed to be the same as the pair I got a few years ago. I’m glad to see that is definitely the case!
Jealous
I would love to see Red Wing have a leather mid-sole. I just had the soles of my oxblood RW's changed and had a leather mid-sole added, a nice improvement.
I recently purchased the Iron Ranger 8111 amber harness finally. I am impressed, a really nice boot that fits my foot very well. Although the boot is still a little stiff, I find it to be a comfortable boots that is slightly snug without being tight or pinching the foot. I am liking the Redwing #8 last. I was also surprised that it is lighter in weight than I thought it would be.
I would love to see some contemporary Red Wing work boots (not heritage) cut in half. Especially those with Supersole 1.0 & permanent Poron insole like the 2233, 953, 2245, 1105, 2231. Those have been a staple for the last few decades. Maybe not as sylist as the heritage boots, but more likely to be bought for work.
Love my iron rangers I have 1 black for going out, 1 suede not mule also for going out and finally 1 copper for any housework or yard work. By far my work ones are my fave for obvious reasons. The look the feel and just they are the originals I started with.
I've got some 11 year old beckmans here and they are still solid. Can't complain at all.
I bought some Iron Rangers recently. They are currently my favorite boot. Getting more and more comfortable each day. They are high enough that I need to buy more socks that are longer. I also like Allen Edmonds shoes and boots.
Have 2 pairs , copper and amber. I only bought the second pair cause I sent my 3yr old pair to get the soles replaced with rubber lugged soles for more grip working in wet conditions. I would go through cheap (120 -150 ) work boots every 6 months , so I'm happy I have boots that last so long and can be resoled.
Best reviews and reviewer every!👍😁 Merry Christmas 🎄😊
I got my pair of 8111s back in 2015 and all I can say is that they have aged like fine wine. And yes the heel stitching does wear out over time.
Sharp looking boots. I'd love to own a pair of them. I enjoy watching your videos. Thank you.
It's good to know my Iron Rangers purchased this year is the same quality as previous ones
I adore my 8111 Iron Rangers. The mid sole (or lack there of) as you mentioned, leaves a lot to be desired. I think another layer of veg tanned leather would be awesome and bring the value of the boot higher. That aside I think the boot is fantastic and I would definitely buy another pair.
Love my Redwing boots. Booth pair of my Iron Rangers have only gotten better with age. I highly recommend the Heritage series .. great looking boots that will last a very long time.
Add me to the list of new Red Wing Customers through your videos.
Needed them BlackHarness for work and they were sold out for months,
finally picked up a pair today at Red Wing Amsterdam.
I've worn some of the best boots made: Wesco, White's, Tricker's, Crockett &Jones, Alden, etc, and I always come back to the Iron Ranger as my most comfortable, basic, everyday wear. I'm wearing my copper rough n' tough Rangers now...
Hoping we could get an Iron Ranger sizing video for Chistmas Like you did for the moc toes! 😁
After two months on order, I finally got my first pair last night.
I'm used to wearing Docs for work (professional chef/owner), and the Docs are perfect for the kitchen since I can trash them with little worry, and it looks clean when I am in the front of house.
Even without the rangers not broken in, the fit is night and day, especially in the toe box. It took two months because I'm size 6 triple E, with flat arches and narrow heels. Money well spent.
had my Iron Rangers for a few months and i'm a huge fan. i've had a pair of Weekenders for 5 years before resoling this year as well so i'm already convinced of red wings quality. i did have to go a full size down and wide EE for these. Again, they are tough to break in, maybe 4-6 weeks, and very hard under foot. even with custom insoles, they're still hard to stand on for hours at a time. that being said, if you have the money, i highly recommend them
side note on the moc toes: i was recently unpleasantly surprised at how chunky the RW moc toe felt, not just extra toe space but seemed really high
I have mine on right now. Love the look of them. Not the most comfortable boot I have but definitely win on style. Wish I had got the vibram sole instead of the threadless leather. Very slick.
I own a pair of redwing Beckman 9016 Cigar and love them. Hope to own a pair someday. Gotta say my Whites Millwood are amazing and thanks Weston for the video on them. It made my mind up to purchase a nice quality boot for the price.
I have these in this color and they're incredible. Hopefully they keep it and it's not a limited time color way.
Still don't have a pair of iron rangers but I primarily wear my alico summits for work which replaced my Jim green razorbacks and I wear my Truman's for going out. I'm happy to see they haven't cut any corners. Seems to be uncommon these days. Thanks for sharing.
I love my 1907's they were the first boot's I bought after watching your videos last year. I have yet to put in the extra insoles because the thick leather insoles are so comfortable after they break in. I held off on the Iron Rangers due to the clown shoe look, but I will admit they are growing on me. Heck, I may all the way clown shoe and get the Jim Green buffalo boots.
Using my Iron Rangers since 3 years for motorcycling. After all this time and around 35.000km of motorcycling, travelling over three continents and walking A LOT (even high mountains in Mexico) and riding horses, they still look like new. But I clean them once per month.
I was at a RedWing dealer a few days ago. Went to look at lower cut leather boots and liked these enough to get a pair. Now, my wife wants to try a pair on.
I've worn them for years. My biggest complaint is the vamp liner. I wish they would make the liner some type of leather, but they are a little cooler in the summer time though so I guess that could be the trade off.
Thanks for the continued sacrifices to the boot gods.
Since Jim Greens is the sponsor. Yaaahhh for new models in the US. Was hoping for the Mala and Turbo Mala. Also was interested in the Bantam but the Shoellie maybe better for urban/city use. Was thinking about inquiring about shipping cost to the US on the South African site since it's not listed in the shipping destinations.