Kang is definitely brains that match Thanos’s power. The guy built an empire out of a prison. A universe he knew nothing about and he enslaved it in a under a decade
Here's the deal, the MultiVerse saga is about to weed out who is truly a nerd and who is not because it's going to be a total mindfxcc moving forward that will tie together in the end, because I already see how so many people are missing even the easy knots so far. It's why I think People will look back on Quantumania in a couple years and love it. It's ahead of it's time. The way it ended allows them to do so many different things now too as compared to if we got Kang to get out into 616 it would of been cool to see in that movie but would have locked in how the movie forward. Kang getting kicked into his multiversal engine its something none of the other Kangs would have even anticipated.
Yeah really wasn't that bad of a movie it probably just wasn't executed very well but I feel like it's just a small piece to a bigger puzzle that we haven't seen yet.
Most of mcu buyers are not nerds. What you mentioned is not good for marvel, they need to keep things simple for general movie going audience or else they are going to lose most of their fan base. Seems like it’s already begun
@@ronthorn3 doesn’t change the fact that “simple” is what’s kept the franchise running for a decade without the average movie goers the MCU will wither a die on the vine very fast, just look how mass audiences have dropped from Antman 3 faster than any film before it, a film that was stated to introduce the next Thanos level villain & most important film since Endgame. They failed to explain anything regarding the multiverse at large the rules,consequences or even a small narrative story that average people could follow other than the same actor playing an infinite character that’s meant to be threatening that everyone saw lost to ants and the Wasp. Like it or not mass audiences are either burning out over the content or simply aren’t investing in the stories,new characters or lack of an existing narrative anymore🤷♂️
@@TipsyLoveLetter I was a casual for Phases 1-3 (I never watched a Thor movie and had no fucking idea who Thanos was when I saw Infinity War) and I say with incredible confidence that they don't need to know everything to enjoy themselves. My wife and son don't keep up with any MCU shit like I do and Quantumania was their favorite Marvel movie since End Game / No Way Home. Casuals don't get burnout because they don't stress themselves out about all this shit.
My question is where’s the watcher? The living tribunal? The celestials? You would think they will also try to stop KANG since their existence is also at risk
It may be possible the He who remains that was seen in Loki, worked with the celestials and the rest of the mcu gods to form some sort of alliance to win the multiversal war. but idk
People will look back on Quantumania in a couple years and love it. It's ahead of it's time. The way it ended allows them to do so many different things now too as compared to if we got Kang get out into 616 it would of been cool to see in that movie but would of locked in how they movie forward. With Kang getting kicked into his multiversal engine its something none of the other Kangs would of even anticipated.
Thanos wanted to erase half of everything, KANG WANTS TO DESTROY CONTROL RULE EVERYTHING AT EVERY TIME POINT 😂😂😂 SOUNDS MUCHH BIGGER THAN THANOS TO ME not to mention there are 10000’s of Lange 😂
The couple that passes Scott twice in the after credits are wearing the colors of Kang (green and purple.) His panic actually starts right when they pass him the 2nd time as if he realized it was deju vu or something weird.
The High Evolutionary is in GOG3. I’m sure Dr. Doom will come in Secret Wars. It would be criminal not to have him. And, please Marvel, do not make Doom a variant of Kang.
@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer I don’t need them to follow comics. Sometimes it’s pretty cool, but Doom has gotta be at least in post credits of Secret Wars.
They should’ve just done a Kang movie with him discovering the multiverse & fighting different versions of himself & avengers ..& then at the end it leads to him getting trapped in quantum realm..Which would’ve led into Antman 3
Oh yeah. In the comics, Victor Timely is the actual Kang. He got beat and was embarrassed. So he went back in time and disguised as Timely. I think Victor, He Who Remains and The Conqueror are all the same person. As for the scars, Kang would have easy access to any level of medical procedures.
@Colonel Sandurz How so? In the comics Victor (Kang) was beat and he was embarrassed by it. He then went back in time to briefly become Victor. My He Who Remains theory is probably off, but I’d bet anything that Timely is the actual Kang of either HWR or Kang Quantumania.
Actually there was a scene in the movie where Kang had a look on his face like he recognized Hank Pym. It was very brief. It was a scene before Hank unleash his army of ants on him.
I thought there was a scene where very briefly - Kang sorta had a look like - Kang knows Hank. I forget the scene, but now I do think there’s connection. Oh, the ending did feel very weird. Remember, time passes differently in the QR. Lang could’ve been gone much longer than we or he thinks/knows. Maybe Kang referencing Eternity - is him going after Eternity and Thor.
Is it not time to admit, or perhaps it should have been far earlier, that Kang is a pretty hard villain to sell as the new big bad threat because everything about him is pretty nebulous. His biggest enemies are variants of himself. His motivation is to stop the heroes from stopping him. Stopping him from doing what? Ensure that he happens. We just get into this time loop stuff and I didn't hear much at all in your video about how the heroes factor into any of this. In order to pull off Kang, they need really good writing and well, it doesn't seem like we've had that. Plus, a 70% box office drop will stall or change plans really fast, wouldn't it? This all sounds great on paper, but how does this translate to multiple films making billions of dollars? We haven't had an MCU film do that since Endgame.
@@tony4534 Yeah, I know, and No Way Home doesn't count as it was a Sony co-production. I just mean that before we could count on each them either making it over a billion or having a really good shot.
@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iu I think that's a great question. If the answer is that he wants to conquer simply to prevent the other Kang's from doing the same, I won't be too happy about that.
@@tony4534 nwh is still mcu cannon it has made over a billion and multivariate of madness made 955 million only 5 million away from a billion so pretty much made a billion that's 2 movies in the same year so that's not true not every movie they make will hit a billion but many have and the ones that don't do well still make more than 95% of movies made so even thier qoute un quote failures outsell all other movies made so that still puts them at the top try to remember movies making over a billion is far from normal so one company doing that multiple times is insane and is unheard of marvel is doing just fine despite what ppl say and once ppl see more and more of the main story unfold they won't have this doubt anymore this is the early stage of a new saga its like thinking marvel was all over the place around Iron man 2 but ppl waited for the whole story to connect witch is what needs to happen now they know what they are doing but not enough has been seen or connected yet you guys need to give it time and be patient it will pay off big once we get to that point but stop expecting so much right out of the gate on a new story line the infinity saga took a decade yet everyone is trying to give up on them in the 2nd year of the new phase we have a long way to go to get to the point where it will all connect
Lets Remember that Kang is not exactly evil....Although Im already over the this next phase. Hmmmm lets stretch out the tired trope of "bad guy" wanting his lost love back. BOOOORRRRRIIINNNGGGG! There is no "excitement" to glean from the tale already told like what 3x now!? But way to hype the epic ....MEH
Brilliant video. I've been thinking forever that the "Sacred Timeline" was a merging of all timelines, so the 4 being in there makes sense to me. And I can see the Eternity thing having some possibility. I like that New Rockstars had some shout outs. Lately I've been less interested in their videos because they seemed to be going weird and unnecessary with some ideas, but maybe I'll check out these you mentioned.
I think they completely missed the ball on having Kang as the ultimate villain. Character is overly dramatic & really causes no fear in his villainy other than having a power to erase. Not interested anymore. Then they wanna push Echo, Agatha, Marvels. Who gives a 💩 about those characters?🤷🏻♂️ 1000% FAIL! 🤦🏻♂️
@@leonjones2508 well they messed up on this one. I’m not gonna keep spending to watch a product that has tarnished. At least Thanos was a better villain. Why watch a movie that forces you to watch their streaming to keep up with story. I’m checking out 🧳 but good luck man!👊🏼
@@dsknives310 Few ? There won’t be 2 many movies to make over 500 million this year and that’s low for Marvel the Majority are excited my guy. Fantastic 4 Deadpool thunderbolts Kang Dynasty and Secret War 😂 I promise more then a selective few will tune into those movies
Seeing as Hank Pym (as Giant Man) was in the debut of Kang the Conqueror in the Avengers comics, I really wish they would have left that deleted scene in.
Great video. All the different theories and hidden connections ate some of my favourite things about the MCU. I need to mention though that I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the whole absolute point in time thing with Dr. Strange in the What If episode. Using the Time Stone and time travelling via the Quantum Realm or other scientific ways are very, very different. It isn't even time travel really. He is just rewinding time with the Time Stone. If he used the Quantum Realm instead he would have been able to prevent Christine's death. It just would have created a branch timeline, but it would be no good because there would be 2 Steven Stranges in that new branch. It also wouldn't change his original timeline. He would have to kill his variant and take his place to be able to be with Christine. He would also need to leave the Time Stone behind or else there would be 2 in one universe and none in the other, which would probably cause some problems. The reason it became an absolute point is because it would have essentially created a paradox. By saving Christine he leaves no reason for him to become a sorcerer which means he would never get the Time Stone or the powers to rewind the time in the 1st place. It also would have created an extra Time Stone in that universe which is something the universe would try to correct I assume. So to sum it all up, although I could probably go on a lot more lol, I don't think absolute points in time will have any significance in the future of the MCU. I think it's just relevant with the Time Stone. It's just the universe/multiverses' natural form of protection against possible paradoxes. This instance was to stop the paradox of Strange rewinding time to prevent the thing that led him to get the powers to rewind time. You could also argue that it was to prevent there from being 2 Time Stones. Maybe you can't use the Stone to rewind to anytime before you got to Stone unless you plan on going back to where you rewinded from
I thought the quantum realm was outside of time like the tva? So how could you branch another timeline from a place outside of time with only one version of it? Idk the comics but love marvel and just asking a question that seems to make sense to me.
That’s false 😂 Did doctor doom save the last 2 movies he was in ? No they just need better writing and care more about good movies then trying to appeal to more people
Anyone see the leak about Dr. Doom entering the MCU after the last battle in the Thunderbolts movie spills over into Latveria and Hulk does some shit that forces his hand into the MCU.
Kang is a bigger bad guy, in my opinion especially when Thanos was only in two movies. Kang will be in a lot more projects and that is why people are going to like this a lot more than the Infinity Saga. The box office numbers are getting much better for Ant-Man 3 and that tells me it's not as bad as people are saying. It's on pace to make 675 million which is huge for Marvel and we might get to watch it on Disney Plus before Secret Invasion.
@@shinken6636 Already the highest grossing AntMan movie and will be top 3 grossing this year 85% of the audience loved it just nerds who watch movies for a living where over critical of it
Even though this is really cool to happen, I just hope that Marvel doesn't abuse Kang and have him be responsible for EVERYTHING. Even normal everyday life.
I knew it, tons of people are saying Kang will eventually become He Who Remains and end the council and the war. But you are exactly right - he WOULD HAVE become He Who Remains if it weren’t for Scott. Loki killing HWR has happened again and again and again, it was weird that this time there were two Lokis because this run is different. The loop is finally broken and the multiverse is free, will Kang end the war again this time? That’s what we’ll have to see.
Love & Thunder and She-Hulk were the only bad projects to come out since Multiverse Saga started. Everything else is the same level of quality as the Infinity Saga
@@lightskinjayt2627 I like Josh. He reminds me of when my buddies and I would try to predict what would happen in old marvel or star wars before we got jaded on it. I'll support him before I support Disney.
Agreed. I miss speculating abt the future of the mcu but now it seems pointless as anything we think of will he better than what they got these writers writing
I wonder how Kang didn't recognize Janet before they met in the Quantum Realm if this Kang conquered different universes like he said nor having the technology to make Pym particles that he so desperately needed in Quantumania
I think the more that I ponder on Howell MCU’s is going to portray Kang the conqueror is this. We think Kang the conqueror is the villain. But he is actually the antihero. The council of Kangs are the real villain in the next two faces and moving forward. He who remained and the conqueror, I believe, is one in the same. I believe he will end right back up to where he was when we first saw him in Loki at the end of phase 6. He’s kind of an antihero and necessary good guy bad guy that needs to be there to control the great secret timeline so his other variance don’t wreck the timeline. I like to come back to this post in years gone by in to see if I was correct.
They say Kang is a Thanos level threat. as in equal to Thanos which means he can't be dead. I believe Thanos faked his death in the garden. He even coaxed Thor to go for the head to make his illusion believable. Something he failed to do when Gamora stabbed him in the neck on Knowhere. He pulled the same stunt and the entirety of the world audience fell for it. It's like we're all as dumb as Thor continuously falling for his brother's trick. Which is also the reason I don't think Loki is dead either. I have to much MCU cannon to back all of this too. my mind can't be changed. I believe they faked their deaths to get at Kang and be actual masters of their fate beyond his control. something they can only do by pretending to follow their destined plans until the opportune moment. Not to mention Thanos had to fake his death and pretend to destroy the stones to force the avengers to commit the timeheist and giving his 2018 self future knowledge. thereby making the snap truly destined and the infinity war truly infinite.
@Min If you go all the way back to the first avengers and pay close attention to the dialogue of Loki Selvig and Banner you begin to understand there is much double entendre. The first Avengers takes place both before and after endgame and the Loki series. Loki even enchants in Thor the dark world and Th or Ragnarock. which is why I know for a fact 100% that he is valkery. And Valkery died in his place. They even foreshadow/preshadow in the Loki series when Sylvie talks about her dream of being a valkery... You know what I'm just gonna give you the whole rundown. See if you think Marvel is dense after the fact.
@Min Did you know Thanos faked destroying the stones in the Garden to force Tony to create time travel? So that his younger 2018 self would have the knowledge from nebula to make the snap happen. " I know what it's like to lose. to feel so desperately you should have won." Thanos used the reality stone to fake his own beheading and simultaneously slip the destined course he who remains set for the 616 timeline. Once cap returns the stones Thanos will cease to have been snapped by Tony and return to the linear 616 timeline. It's possible that Thanos may discover his death through dream. He may also meet Hela after being snapped in endgame having died a peaceful death and gone to Hel. Which is a play on the characters Greek origins and original name Thanatos who was a deity of peaceful death and partly why he is obsessed with making the snap come to fruition to create balance within the 616 universe. This is why strange has to view so many outcomes in Infinity war to find just one where the Avengers succeed. One where Tony sacrifices himself. This is why Thanos knows Stark and gives him his respect. Thanos is destined to win because he knows the outcome. He also knows the universe is finite and destined to end without correction which is why he fakes his death in the garden and sets up the avengers to practically open the multiverse through the timeheist. Because of Thanos actions Loki too gains future knowledge as a byproduct of the timeheist and his run in with the TVA. Loki is shown his determined course at He Who Remains whims. But... Mobius shows Loki an event that has not yet happened to Loki. The D.B. Cooper heist. Because the TVA exists outside of linear time Mobius accidentally clues Loki into the fact that he will commit the heist. Loki has already shown us that he brought this knowledge to the 616 linear timeline on multiple occasions. #1 enchanting: Loki did not have this ability prior to meeting Sylve and defeating Aliath. Yet he uses this trick as far back as Thor the dark World to sacrifice a soldier (possibly Baldr who in mythology triggers Ragnarok.) and take the throne after beguiling Odin to midgaurd. Loki swaps identities during times of peace and only reveals himself during apocalyptic circumstances to hide his trail from the TVA. Loki does this again in Thor Ragnarock outside the purview of the TVA. he does it on Sakaar which by relativistic means exists on its own timescale slower than the outside universe. while in Sakaar Loki enchants Valkery and swaps identities again. Leaving Valkerybto be sacrifice to Thanos in his place at the beginning of Infinty War upon the Asgardian refugee ship. Loki, disguised as valkery, takes the surviving members of Asgard to Earth. Ruling New Asgard in Thors absence until Thor Love and Thunder. My guess is that he is maintaining this identity to get an upper hand on Kang. Loki season 2 will likely be centered around Loki trying to find his way back to the original 616 timeline that is most likely rewritten after he who remains death and... Kangs escape from Quantumania. whichbis why at the end of Loki season 1 it is Kang who is in charge of the TVA. Loki along with Cap and others will likely have to rig causal events to reinstate the 616. Cap while trying to return the stones will setup a shadow government and most likely have to force WW2 to begin making Hitler the poster child. Cap most likely has Peggy in on this which is why she founds Shield and plays a reactive role to the events Cap as the leader of hydra creates. My assumption is Cap will become involved in a non linear Secret War where he will meet Sam and see he has the shield. Which is why Capngives Sam the shield at the end of endgame. I imagine it has a far more significant role to play. The MCU is using similar concepts as are presented in the movie Looper, inception and interstellar. with a multiverse twist which makes the storytelling way more complex. While you can't change the past you van manipulate the linear progression of timelines by manipulating causal events and finding an earlier entangled point. This is why the 616 is made up of at least 3 possibly 4 timelines. most likely represented by the triquetra on Thors hammer. Similarly there are likely 10 nonlinear subjective loops that influence the 616 represented by the imagery ofnthe ten rings. So far I've laid out 4 of them partially. I believe the main players to be Tony, Thanos, Loki, Strange, and Wanda so far. Wanda's is tricky and a major mind melter. The 4th timeline is likely Kangs who's destinednto fail after Loki reinstates He Who Remains at the end of time. Likely kid Loki will be involved in this with the young avengers and it will be Iron Lad who is destined to become He Who Remains. It's possible Victor Timely is one of Iron Lads personas who is trying to cut the curve on technological progress and exponentially increase his own ability. Which alternatively may be why it is Tony and the Avengers who create timetravel instead. Shield projects such as insight may have been planned by Iron Lad/Victor timely/He who Remains, but executed by Hydra Cap within the past. I believe this would be why project paperclip was designed. All so that shield would utilize it to ensure the timeline remains on point... Also as a precursor to the software for miss minutes in the TVA. Who practically runs the timeline and helps ensure the appropriate timelines are pruned. This also makes Cap responsible for his own ascension into a supersoldier and likely the donor who made Bucky a supersoldier. Cap is also likely responsible for the winter soldier program and Buckys brainwashing. 🎤 💧. I didn't even cover wanda yet. I'll see if anyone bites before covering that. Trying to get the word out but no one likes to read or write anymore. Please tell me if you see any flaws in my logic and I'll try and address them. Or if your curious about Wanda or have other insights.
nah. The more i think the more a i believe this "multiversal" saga is just a mistake that will lienate fans. Thanos got people imagination because he was a very unique character with a very unique ideology with a very unique plan/goal. Kang is/are thousands people each one with a diferent personality. Does Feige really believe people ( normies in special) will care about a character that every movie, every series is completely diferent person ? But, going back to basics, i still think the main problem begins with the fact that the explanation of why TIME TRAVEL ( how it all begun in Endagame) evolved into MULTIVERSAL TRAVEL. Thus far you can't figure out . The theory that you create a new timeline (multiverse) when you travel through time is just silly and would make the events of Endagame impossible to happen.It's just a Pandora's Box that only fools touch.
I think that people are just too stupid to admit they do not understand what is going on. Thanos was so basic, he was a big purple CGI alien with stones on the gauntlet. Now we are dealing with parallel dimensions which is a concept that has always thrown mainstream audiences off.
I wish antman 3 wasn’t so dark and weird with their lighting, I was looking forward to see Kang’s green and purple suit. It was too dim to appreciate the colors lol
I think kang’s lover ravonna will be the main reason why he wants to conquer eternity like a parallel when strange was trying to save Christine in what if
Michael Douglass confirmed some of your theories in the interview he did yesterday. You def want to check it out. He even mentioned the mining and hinted at this is another reason why the Quantum realm will be important in this phase and the next
Josh do you think Romulus would be In the picture early when Wolverine in the MCU happens? Also how quickly do you think we'll see Hickmans newer x men status be adapted to the screen since Geige has done a decent job at using pretty new stories and the older classic ones both with the same character. Also how do you think Mr Sinister will be portrayed? Build up in the background or one and done then possibly coming back at some point?
I know in the comics there's numerous variants & it works of course, just worried how that will translate into live action & how the casual fans will react & understand what's going on
There are four movies on the slate for 2024... CA: New World Order, Thunderbolts, Blade and Deadpool 3. ...and Fantastic Four is slated for early 2025. So with Kang Dynasty coming in May 2025, it requires no small amount of cognitive dissonance to simoultaneously believe that Shang-Chi 2, Doctor Strange 2, and a World War Hulk movie that is still tangled in rights issues, would all be coming "...before the next two Avengers movies..." ...and on top of that, whilst Spider-man 4 would have a Sony release date, It still seems like a push to also get that out before May 2025.
Nah. Go watch Michael Douglasses latest interview . Beware of spoilers. .Quantum Realm and Ant Man 3 very significant for the McU next phases confirmed.
@DanaWhites_CocaineDealer woah relax my guy. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. Go outside touch some grass or go get a hug seems like you need it. Enjoy your day!!
Only one other actor has play multiple varients of a character and that's Tom Cavanagh on CW's Flash, (15 varients). The character of Harrison Wells (Earth 1), multiple varients of Wells from different Earth's AND Eobard Thawne (Matt Letscher) stealing Earth 1's Harrison Wells identity through future gene stealing technology (literally), killing Earth 1 Harrison Wells and taking his place, but is really Eobard Thawne underneath the face of Earth 1's HR and plotting revenge on the Flash for years. I applaud Tom for pulling this off. Jonathan Majors has a huge job ahead of him. He's already played 6 distinct varients so far AND an establsihing shot of what looks like hundreds of thousands of Kang varients, looking similar, but not having any specific or distinguishing character lines from them. This might be the ultimate actor's challenging role of his career. I wait in high hopes that he pulls this off successfully.
Thanos should had been The 2nd & Kang The 3rd!! The Avengers should had been taking on The Masters of Evil because most of the members are from 🌎!! THEN branch out to space 🌌 where Thanos waits & search for the Infinity Gems
Appears there may be a connection between Kang and a possible mission of his to limit timeline universes to keep Celestials under control possibly to keep Galactus from emerging from his cloud monster fetus state as Alioth into an adult Galactus. The incursions of the multiverse appear to unleash Alioth fully incubated into Galactus where he feeds on world's fertilized with the Celestial young seeded inside living worlds. With the Eternals plot still unresolved and the TVA timelines out of control the Incursion begins in the Marvel's upcoming film, and somehow, I think Kang the Celestials Galactus and the incursions are all connected. Which means Kang may be a Hero Villian who's ultimate mission is to keep Galactus confined as Alioth in his fetal state at the end of time to prevent the end of everything sacrificing entire timelines and universes for a greater good. His war with his variants may be over this idea where his mission threatens their timeline universes and they disagree obviously and have gone to war over it for thier survival ultimately confining Kang in the quantum realm until Ant-Man appears to have stopped him. There is debate that He Who Remains is the same Kang found trapped in the Quantum Realm that different time slices of him exist along an entangled timeline the very reason he knew he would be back even if Silvie killed him like domino's set up in a row each time slice of him effects the next until he arrives back where he was. Which suggests this may also play into the Silver Surfer plot, Where Zenlaa the home of Silver Surfer may be incubating a Celestial that Galactus had meant to consume but spared in agreement to except his Herald. which may be the plot that causes the Silver Surfer to revolt against Galactus after he discovers living worlds alone are rejected by Galactus and Galactus tells him that the life energy he seeks isn't within the rejected world the Silver Surfer offers up to him, causing the Silver Surfer to suspect theres something different about his world and rushes off to investigate Zenlaa only to discover a Celestial fetus incubating within his home world's core which would threaten his planet when the emergence occurs. The Silver Surfer asks Galactus "what is the entity within the core of Zenlaa"? Galactus tells him, "It is the sustenance I denied I myself, That you should agree to become my Herald." "It will consume Zenlaa when it emerges, Was this you're doing?" "I am not responsible for seeding it there, It is the offspring of the other's, Celestials like myself, The emergence will not be for many eons." "Than you knew my world will end before it's time regardless of our bargain that you would spare it!, Our bargain was to spare my world yet it's destruction was assured by your kind therefore our bargain is void and fraudulent and I therein end my service to you as Herald to Galactus! I am about 80 percent certain I have figured out how the plot from Kang and the Celestials setup the Silver Surfer plot. Kang is just setting up the conditions to allow Marvel to branch off into other plots including offering them a plausible return of deceased characters while allowing them to setup for Silver Surfer Fantastic Four and Secret Wars. Kang was never meant to be an ultimate villain; He is the Anti-Hero who is trying to save and preserve the multiverse at any cost.
Ya gotta stop saying that scooper accounts are “confirming” things. They’re not. Totally misleading. I know everyone wants to be first to scoop but other accounts proclaiming things without actually knowing isn’t that. Be better.
I’m going to have a hard time watching a movie with a villain that mimics Big Trouble In Little China. Immortus is Lopan. Those 3 in post credits looked ridiculous. So, Rama-Tut is half robotic and Immortus is blue. I can do without Loveness writing. As more time has passed, I’m not liking this direction at all.
The stuff your saying sounds so good, but will it be accessible to the average watchers? I think marvel prioritises them and the younger audience. Ultimately, I believe the story will end up relatively simplistic, sadly…
More grounded shows and movies like the Captain America stuff and iron Man stuff you know just to conquering the world was big enough another hungry multiverses and inclusions and all these big words and all this fancy s*** and it just freaked me out
Thanos was and is the greatest live action comic book villain ever. I can rewatch infinity war ENDLESSLY. So fucking great
He doesn’t have to be better then Thanos Thoe but can 💯 be in the ballpark
Kang is definitely brains that match Thanos’s power.
The guy built an empire out of a prison. A universe he knew nothing about and he enslaved it in a under a decade
That end sequence when they're all back on 616 universe was one of the creepiest sequences and definitely requires multiple rewatches.
Yall forget hes a time traveler. He could have died in quantumania and STILL kill all the Avengers.... just in HIS past
Here's the deal, the MultiVerse saga is about to weed out who is truly a nerd and who is not because it's going to be a total mindfxcc moving forward that will tie together in the end, because I already see how so many people are missing even the easy knots so far. It's why I think People will look back on Quantumania in a couple years and love it. It's ahead of it's time. The way it ended allows them to do so many different things now too as compared to if we got Kang to get out into 616 it would of been cool to see in that movie but would have locked in how the movie forward. Kang getting kicked into his multiversal engine its something none of the other Kangs would have even anticipated.
Yeah really wasn't that bad of a movie it probably just wasn't executed very well but I feel like it's just a small piece to a bigger puzzle that we haven't seen yet.
Most of mcu buyers are not nerds. What you mentioned is not good for marvel, they need to keep things simple for general movie going audience or else they are going to lose most of their fan base. Seems like it’s already begun
@@BM-sg1sl simple is BORING
@@ronthorn3 doesn’t change the fact that “simple” is what’s kept the franchise running for a decade without the average movie goers the MCU will wither a die on the vine very fast, just look how mass audiences have dropped from Antman 3 faster than any film before it, a film that was stated to introduce the next Thanos level villain & most important film since Endgame.
They failed to explain anything regarding the multiverse at large the rules,consequences or even a small narrative story that average people could follow other than the same actor playing an infinite character that’s meant to be threatening that everyone saw lost to ants and the Wasp. Like it or not mass audiences are either burning out over the content or simply aren’t investing in the stories,new characters or lack of an existing narrative anymore🤷♂️
@@TipsyLoveLetter I was a casual for Phases 1-3 (I never watched a Thor movie and had no fucking idea who Thanos was when I saw Infinity War) and I say with incredible confidence that they don't need to know everything to enjoy themselves.
My wife and son don't keep up with any MCU shit like I do and Quantumania was their favorite Marvel movie since End Game / No Way Home.
Casuals don't get burnout because they don't stress themselves out about all this shit.
Seeing Kang destroy Eternity with the power of the Beyonders on the big screen? Hell ya make it happen mcu
No.
My question is where’s the watcher? The living tribunal? The celestials? You would think they will also try to stop KANG since their existence is also at risk
It may be possible the He who remains that was seen in Loki, worked with the celestials and the rest of the mcu gods to form some sort of alliance to win the multiversal war. but idk
People will look back on Quantumania in a couple years and love it. It's ahead of it's time. The way it ended allows them to do so many different things now too as compared to if we got Kang get out into 616 it would of been cool to see in that movie but would of locked in how they movie forward. With Kang getting kicked into his multiversal engine its something none of the other Kangs would of even anticipated.
Right on, that movie was really good. The intro when Kang first crash landed will give even more chills later on when we see what happens
And he could have died then... and still have conquered everything and killed the avengers in HIS past.
wait what?
The plot wasn’t the problem. It was the bad CGI, bad jokes, and the fucking on and off helmets.
@@buddhashark I’ll agree w the jokes😂never too late to stop being a dick, who wrote that shit😂😂😂
Thanos wanted to erase half of everything, KANG WANTS TO DESTROY CONTROL RULE EVERYTHING AT EVERY TIME POINT 😂😂😂 SOUNDS MUCHH BIGGER THAN THANOS TO ME not to mention there are 10000’s of Lange 😂
10000’s of kangs*
The comments full of scammers 😂😂😂 talking to themselves. Wtf?
The couple that passes Scott twice in the after credits are wearing the colors of Kang (green and purple.) His panic actually starts right when they pass him the 2nd time as if he realized it was deju vu or something weird.
Kang lost to Ant-Man & Wasp!! It's hard to take him seriously now in the MCU.
OHHH I GOT A GOOD THEORY
What if Kangs WISH is to become
HE WHO REMAINS!!!!!
I hope they don’t make the mistake of having every marvel movie only using kang as a villain
Secret wars having Kang bring in multiversal Thanos, Ultron, Loki, Red Skull, etc would be super cool.
I really hope they don’t end up making Doctor Doom just another Kang variant.
The High Evolutionary is in GOG3. I’m sure Dr. Doom will come in Secret Wars. It would be criminal not to have him. And, please Marvel, do not make Doom a variant of Kang.
@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer I don’t need them to follow comics. Sometimes it’s pretty cool, but Doom has gotta be at least in post credits of Secret Wars.
Hearing all of this is giving me Kang Fatigue already...
Over complicated villain with an extremely convoluted backstory. Overall not as menacing, sinister, or quotable bad Thanos or Ultron
Oh you want connectivity huh?
Same Actor
Different guy
EVERY MOVIE
Haha 😹
Kang KILLS Thanos.. comic ACCURATE. SORRY
They should’ve just done a Kang movie with him discovering the multiverse & fighting different versions of himself & avengers ..& then at the end it leads to him getting trapped in quantum realm..Which would’ve led into Antman 3
What if he also gets the power of eternity
I need a deleted scene or an extra scene with Luis and the aliens bar doing his run-down with Bill Murray
No Luis was the biggest disappointment of the film
@@willbeard4835luis wasnt in the film... wtf
@@davidjones8043 ya not even a cameo. Best character in the mcu
Very detailed vid. I wish I could watch Quantum Mania again to try and pick up on this stuff, but that movie is trash.
Beyonder Kang could explain the tribunal statue being destroyed in the void especially if he is the only one who “remains” in the end.
Could Victor Timely be Quantumania Kang traveling back through time through the quantum engine
Yes it could, in the comics Victor Timely is just a disguise it's not a different Kang.
Oh yeah. In the comics, Victor Timely is the actual Kang. He got beat and was embarrassed. So he went back in time and disguised as Timely. I think Victor, He Who Remains and The Conqueror are all the same person. As for the scars, Kang would have easy access to any level of medical procedures.
@Colonel Sandurz How so? In the comics Victor (Kang) was beat and he was embarrassed by it. He then went back in time to briefly become Victor. My He Who Remains theory is probably off, but I’d bet anything that Timely is the actual Kang of either HWR or Kang Quantumania.
Damn Josh you really overdoing in this one love all your theories though!
Actually there was a scene in the movie where Kang had a look on his face like he recognized Hank Pym. It was very brief.
It was a scene before Hank unleash his army of ants on him.
Yes! That badass walk Hank does when he comes in with the Ant army and stares down Kang was fire 🔥 wish they interacted more in the movie
He’s kang he’s seen and knows all
Marvel needs to be fixed
"how is kang an avengers level threat"
*kang literally deleting universes*
Scott’s time loop kind of reminds me of Ryan Reynolds AI character in free guy
I thought there was a scene where very briefly - Kang sorta had a look like - Kang knows Hank. I forget the scene, but now I do think there’s connection. Oh, the ending did feel very weird. Remember, time passes differently in the QR. Lang could’ve been gone much longer than we or he thinks/knows. Maybe Kang referencing Eternity - is him going after Eternity and Thor.
Is it not time to admit, or perhaps it should have been far earlier, that Kang is a pretty hard villain to sell as the new big bad threat because everything about him is pretty nebulous. His biggest enemies are variants of himself. His motivation is to stop the heroes from stopping him. Stopping him from doing what? Ensure that he happens. We just get into this time loop stuff and I didn't hear much at all in your video about how the heroes factor into any of this. In order to pull off Kang, they need really good writing and well, it doesn't seem like we've had that. Plus, a 70% box office drop will stall or change plans really fast, wouldn't it? This all sounds great on paper, but how does this translate to multiple films making billions of dollars? We haven't had an MCU film do that since Endgame.
Infinity war and Endgame are the only two who ever grossed multiple billions so not a big suprise we haven’t had one since.
@@tony4534 Yeah, I know, and No Way Home doesn't count as it was a Sony co-production. I just mean that before we could count on each them either making it over a billion or having a really good shot.
@@thechairman74 Nwh absolutely counts.
@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iu I think that's a great question. If the answer is that he wants to conquer simply to prevent the other Kang's from doing the same, I won't be too happy about that.
@@tony4534 nwh is still mcu cannon it has made over a billion and multivariate of madness made 955 million only 5 million away from a billion so pretty much made a billion that's 2 movies in the same year so that's not true not every movie they make will hit a billion but many have and the ones that don't do well still make more than 95% of movies made so even thier qoute un quote failures outsell all other movies made so that still puts them at the top try to remember movies making over a billion is far from normal so one company doing that multiple times is insane and is unheard of marvel is doing just fine despite what ppl say and once ppl see more and more of the main story unfold they won't have this doubt anymore this is the early stage of a new saga its like thinking marvel was all over the place around Iron man 2 but ppl waited for the whole story to connect witch is what needs to happen now they know what they are doing but not enough has been seen or connected yet you guys need to give it time and be patient it will pay off big once we get to that point but stop expecting so much right out of the gate on a new story line the infinity saga took a decade yet everyone is trying to give up on them in the 2nd year of the new phase we have a long way to go to get to the point where it will all connect
What if the kangs bring the X-men into this the timeline
Wearing my headband for this sweaty news
Lets Remember that Kang is not exactly evil....Although Im already over the this next phase. Hmmmm lets stretch out the tired trope of "bad guy" wanting his lost love back. BOOOORRRRRIIINNNGGGG! There is no "excitement" to glean from the tale already told like what 3x now!? But way to hype the epic ....MEH
You know its bad when the breakdown is more interesting than the film itself
Brilliant video. I've been thinking forever that the "Sacred Timeline" was a merging of all timelines, so the 4 being in there makes sense to me. And I can see the Eternity thing having some possibility. I like that New Rockstars had some shout outs. Lately I've been less interested in their videos because they seemed to be going weird and unnecessary with some ideas, but maybe I'll check out these you mentioned.
I enjoy these speculation videos more than the actual MCU movies. WHY!
Anticipation is always more exciting then realization.
I think they completely missed the ball on having Kang as the ultimate villain. Character is overly dramatic & really causes no fear in his villainy other than having a power to erase. Not interested anymore. Then they wanna push Echo, Agatha, Marvels. Who gives a 💩 about those characters?🤷🏻♂️ 1000% FAIL! 🤦🏻♂️
I disagree I didn’t necessarily care for thanos until infinity war honestly all they need is one good movie to show his abilities
@@leonjones2508 well they messed up on this one. I’m not gonna keep spending to watch a product that has tarnished. At least Thanos was a better villain. Why watch a movie that forces you to watch their streaming to keep up with story. I’m checking out 🧳 but good luck man!👊🏼
@@dsknives310 That’s the right thing for you 👏 It’s not for everyone but I’m extremely excited for the future
@@leonjones2508 you’re right it is best for me & definitely for a selective few. Enjoy!
@@dsknives310 Few ? There won’t be 2 many movies to make over 500 million this year and that’s low for Marvel the Majority are excited my guy. Fantastic 4 Deadpool thunderbolts Kang Dynasty and Secret War 😂 I promise more then a selective few will tune into those movies
Did url notice how the other Kang variants were bowing down to the main 3 Kangs & screaming like they are celebs. Just makes them look weak
Seeing as Hank Pym (as Giant Man) was in the debut of Kang the Conqueror in the Avengers comics, I really wish they would have left that deleted scene in.
The way he talks really irks my nerve lol
Sounds like a big bag of bad ideas to me !
If Kang reaches eternity wouldn't he just wish to rule all time and space?
Jonathan majors Should be one of the top paid actors in Marvel right now hes everywhere
Great video. All the different theories and hidden connections ate some of my favourite things about the MCU.
I need to mention though that I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the whole absolute point in time thing with Dr. Strange in the What If episode.
Using the Time Stone and time travelling via the Quantum Realm or other scientific ways are very, very different. It isn't even time travel really. He is just rewinding time with the Time Stone.
If he used the Quantum Realm instead he would have been able to prevent Christine's death. It just would have created a branch timeline, but it would be no good because there would be 2 Steven Stranges in that new branch. It also wouldn't change his original timeline. He would have to kill his variant and take his place to be able to be with Christine. He would also need to leave the Time Stone behind or else there would be 2 in one universe and none in the other, which would probably cause some problems.
The reason it became an absolute point is because it would have essentially created a paradox. By saving Christine he leaves no reason for him to become a sorcerer which means he would never get the Time Stone or the powers to rewind the time in the 1st place. It also would have created an extra Time Stone in that universe which is something the universe would try to correct I assume.
So to sum it all up, although I could probably go on a lot more lol, I don't think absolute points in time will have any significance in the future of the MCU. I think it's just relevant with the Time Stone. It's just the universe/multiverses' natural form of protection against possible paradoxes.
This instance was to stop the paradox of Strange rewinding time to prevent the thing that led him to get the powers to rewind time. You could also argue that it was to prevent there from being 2 Time Stones.
Maybe you can't use the Stone to rewind to anytime before you got to Stone unless you plan on going back to where you rewinded from
I thought the quantum realm was outside of time like the tva? So how could you branch another timeline from a place outside of time with only one version of it? Idk the comics but love marvel and just asking a question that seems to make sense to me.
4:09 Harrison Wells did it for 8 YEARS on The Flash (Tom Cavanagh)
Josh is it crazy if we ask for the 40 min cut of this video 🤣
Kang wins ugliest Marvel character award by a nose [A big nose] not many want to see him.
If Kevin Feige wants to save the MCU he gotta add Doctor Doom into the MCU or it’s gonna fail with only Kang carrying the whole multiverse saga.
That’s false 😂 Did doctor doom save the last 2 movies he was in ? No they just need better writing and care more about good movies then trying to appeal to more people
And with quantumania being a flop right now means they have to up they game or else DC will take over
Kang in MCU will be way more powerful then comic book kang
@@seancamacho4271 he has to
@@seancamacho4271 MCU Kang isn’t more powerful than comic book Kang.. yet.
Anyone see the leak about Dr. Doom entering the MCU after the last battle in the Thunderbolts movie spills over into Latveria and Hulk does some shit that forces his hand into the MCU.
I hope it’s true because they can’t keep this kang shit up for two avengers movies. Kang dynasty sure then doom for sw
@@ski_free_exe They kept Thanos up for a decade so.
@@ski_free_exe I hope it’s true as well and even with Kang being my favorite villain in comics, secret wars definitely not the same without Doom
Yeah they gonna have to bring in someone else because the general public is going to get tired of Kang lol.
Doom was the only person to convert the properties of vibrainium into quantum energy in the comics. Maybe he’s the one that comes in kills him.
eternity wars isnt real lol, that entire secondary list of trademarks was confirmed fake, dont know how anyone thinks otherwise
My girlfriend said we've been watching two different timelines
I don’t think the Kangs are villains. For example I think some will only pop up for a few minutes
Wait if all the khangs met up in one spot wouldn't that effect the 616 timeline dramatically
Yes and it does and it's what The Conqueror was talking about.
Kang is a bigger bad guy, in my opinion especially when Thanos was only in two movies. Kang will be in a lot more projects and that is why people are going to like this a lot more than the Infinity Saga. The box office numbers are getting much better for Ant-Man 3 and that tells me it's not as bad as people are saying. It's on pace to make 675 million which is huge for Marvel and we might get to watch it on Disney Plus before Secret Invasion.
@@shinken6636 Already the highest grossing AntMan movie and will be top 3 grossing this year 85% of the audience loved it just nerds who watch movies for a living where over critical of it
Thor has the daughter of eternity. Well she actually has three fathers but none the less he will still live thru his daughter
What country is the guy speaking in this video from?
I am already tired of KANG.
I’m sure I am not the only one.
Even though this is really cool to happen, I just hope that Marvel doesn't abuse Kang and have him be responsible for EVERYTHING. Even normal everyday life.
Unfortunately I don’t think many people seeing Kant as a threat close to Thanos.
I knew it, tons of people are saying Kang will eventually become He Who Remains and end the council and the war. But you are exactly right - he WOULD HAVE become He Who Remains if it weren’t for Scott. Loki killing HWR has happened again and again and again, it was weird that this time there were two Lokis because this run is different. The loop is finally broken and the multiverse is free, will Kang end the war again this time? That’s what we’ll have to see.
i’m excited to watch Johnathan Majors and Tom Holland go at it
Scammers in the comments, be vigilant!
I'm surprised that ppl still care, the writing in the MCU is putrid and it's only getting worse
Preach it!
Love & Thunder and She-Hulk were the only bad projects to come out since Multiverse Saga started. Everything else is the same level of quality as the Infinity Saga
Then why are you watching this video? Weirdo behavior
@@lightskinjayt2627 I like Josh. He reminds me of when my buddies and I would try to predict what would happen in old marvel or star wars before we got jaded on it. I'll support him before I support Disney.
Agreed. I miss speculating abt the future of the mcu but now it seems pointless as anything we think of will he better than what they got these writers writing
I wonder how Kang didn't recognize Janet before they met in the Quantum Realm if this Kang conquered different universes like he said nor having the technology to make Pym particles that he so desperately needed in Quantumania
Yeah!
I think the more that I ponder on Howell MCU’s is going to portray Kang the conqueror is this. We think Kang the conqueror is the villain. But he is actually the antihero. The council of Kangs are the real villain in the next two faces and moving forward. He who remained and the conqueror, I believe, is one in the same. I believe he will end right back up to where he was when we first saw him in Loki at the end of phase 6. He’s kind of an antihero and necessary good guy bad guy that needs to be there to control the great secret timeline so his other variance don’t wreck the timeline. I like to come back to this post in years gone by in to see if I was correct.
cassie land was the original maker of quantum ore shovel, because the transmitter she made had literally the same design no where else seen previously
They say Kang is a Thanos level threat. as in equal to Thanos which means he can't be dead.
I believe Thanos faked his death in the garden. He even coaxed Thor to go for the head to make his illusion believable. Something he failed to do when Gamora stabbed him in the neck on Knowhere. He pulled the same stunt and the entirety of the world audience fell for it.
It's like we're all as dumb as Thor continuously falling for his brother's trick.
Which is also the reason I don't think Loki is dead either. I have to much MCU cannon to back all of this too. my mind can't be changed. I believe they faked their deaths to get at Kang and be actual masters of their fate beyond his control. something they can only do by pretending to follow their destined plans until the opportune moment.
Not to mention Thanos had to fake his death and pretend to destroy the stones to force the avengers to commit the timeheist and giving his 2018 self future knowledge. thereby making the snap truly destined and the infinity war truly infinite.
Sounds cool but what if your giving Disney Marvel way too much credit?
@Min If you go all the way back to the first avengers and pay close attention to the dialogue of Loki Selvig and Banner you begin to understand there is much double entendre. The first Avengers takes place both before and after endgame and the Loki series. Loki even enchants in Thor the dark world and Th or Ragnarock. which is why I know for a fact 100% that he is valkery. And Valkery died in his place. They even foreshadow/preshadow in the Loki series when Sylvie talks about her dream of being a valkery... You know what I'm just gonna give you the whole rundown. See if you think Marvel is dense after the fact.
@Min Did you know Thanos faked destroying the stones in the Garden to force Tony to create time travel? So that his younger 2018 self would have the knowledge from nebula to make the snap happen. " I know what it's like to lose. to feel so desperately you should have won."
Thanos used the reality stone to fake his own beheading and simultaneously slip the destined course he who remains set for the 616 timeline.
Once cap returns the stones Thanos will cease to have been snapped by Tony and return to the linear 616 timeline.
It's possible that Thanos may discover his death through dream. He may also meet Hela after being snapped in endgame having died a peaceful death and gone to Hel.
Which is a play on the characters Greek origins and original name Thanatos who was a deity of peaceful death and partly why he is obsessed with making the snap come to fruition to create balance within the 616 universe.
This is why strange has to view so many outcomes in Infinity war to find just one where the Avengers succeed. One where Tony sacrifices himself.
This is why Thanos knows Stark and gives him his respect.
Thanos is destined to win because he knows the outcome. He also knows the universe is finite and destined to end without correction which is why he fakes his death in the garden and sets up the avengers to practically open the multiverse through the timeheist.
Because of Thanos actions Loki too gains future knowledge as a byproduct of the timeheist and his run in with the TVA.
Loki is shown his determined course at He Who Remains whims. But... Mobius shows Loki an event that has not yet happened to Loki. The D.B. Cooper heist.
Because the TVA exists outside of linear time Mobius accidentally clues Loki into the fact that he will commit the heist.
Loki has already shown us that he brought this knowledge to the 616 linear timeline on multiple occasions.
#1 enchanting: Loki did not have this ability prior to meeting Sylve and defeating Aliath. Yet he uses this trick as far back as Thor the dark World to sacrifice a soldier (possibly Baldr who in mythology triggers Ragnarok.) and take the throne after beguiling Odin to midgaurd.
Loki swaps identities during times of peace and only reveals himself during apocalyptic circumstances to hide his trail from the TVA.
Loki does this again in Thor Ragnarock outside the purview of the TVA. he does it on Sakaar which by relativistic means exists on its own timescale slower than the outside universe. while in Sakaar Loki enchants Valkery and swaps identities again. Leaving Valkerybto be sacrifice to Thanos in his place at the beginning of Infinty War upon the Asgardian refugee ship. Loki, disguised as valkery, takes the surviving members of Asgard to Earth. Ruling New Asgard in Thors absence until Thor Love and Thunder.
My guess is that he is maintaining this identity to get an upper hand on Kang.
Loki season 2 will likely be centered around Loki trying to find his way back to the original 616 timeline that is most likely rewritten after he who remains death and... Kangs escape from Quantumania. whichbis why at the end of Loki season 1 it is Kang who is in charge of the TVA.
Loki along with Cap and others will likely have to rig causal events to reinstate the 616.
Cap while trying to return the stones will setup a shadow government and most likely have to force WW2 to begin making Hitler the poster child. Cap most likely has Peggy in on this which is why she founds Shield and plays a reactive role to the events Cap as the leader of hydra creates. My assumption is Cap will become involved in a non linear Secret War where he will meet Sam and see he has the shield. Which is why Capngives Sam the shield at the end of endgame. I imagine it has a far more significant role to play.
The MCU is using similar concepts as are presented in the movie Looper, inception and interstellar. with a multiverse twist which makes the storytelling way more complex.
While you can't change the past you van manipulate the linear progression of timelines by manipulating causal events and finding an earlier entangled point. This is why the 616 is made up of at least 3 possibly 4 timelines. most likely represented by the triquetra on Thors hammer.
Similarly there are likely 10 nonlinear subjective loops that influence the 616 represented by the imagery ofnthe ten rings. So far I've laid out 4 of them partially.
I believe the main players to be Tony, Thanos, Loki, Strange, and Wanda so far. Wanda's is tricky and a major mind melter.
The 4th timeline is likely Kangs who's destinednto fail after Loki reinstates He Who Remains at the end of time. Likely kid Loki will be involved in this with the young avengers and it will be Iron Lad who is destined to become He Who Remains. It's possible Victor Timely is one of Iron Lads personas who is trying to cut the curve on technological progress and exponentially increase his own ability. Which alternatively may be why it is Tony and the Avengers who create timetravel instead.
Shield projects such as insight may have been planned by Iron Lad/Victor timely/He who Remains, but executed by Hydra Cap within the past. I believe this would be why project paperclip was designed. All so that shield would utilize it to ensure the timeline remains on point... Also as a precursor to the software for miss minutes in the TVA. Who practically runs the timeline and helps ensure the appropriate timelines are pruned.
This also makes Cap responsible for his own ascension into a supersoldier and likely the donor who made Bucky a supersoldier. Cap is also likely responsible for the winter soldier program and Buckys brainwashing.
🎤 💧. I didn't even cover wanda yet. I'll see if anyone bites before covering that. Trying to get the word out but no one likes to read or write anymore.
Please tell me if you see any flaws in my logic and I'll try and address them.
Or if your curious about Wanda or have other insights.
Nah thanos is dead ,only way he is coming back is a variant from a different universe
I think those fixed points in time are the result of kang making sure those things happen.
I hope they don’t have Kang doing everything himself directly. Conquerors have generals and foot soldiers
Those would be the TVA or Council of Kangs
Genghis Khan was known for leading his troops to battle & being a master strategist in the field
🤘🏿🤘🏿
nah. The more i think the more a i believe this "multiversal" saga is just a mistake that will lienate fans. Thanos got people imagination because he was a very unique character with a very unique ideology with a very unique plan/goal. Kang is/are thousands people each one with a diferent personality. Does Feige really believe people ( normies in special) will care about a character that every movie, every series is completely diferent person ? But, going back to basics, i still think the main problem begins with the fact that the explanation of why TIME TRAVEL ( how it all begun in Endagame) evolved into MULTIVERSAL TRAVEL. Thus far you can't figure out . The theory that you create a new timeline (multiverse) when you travel through time is just silly and would make the events of Endagame impossible to happen.It's just a Pandora's Box that only fools touch.
I think that people are just too stupid to admit they do not understand what is going on. Thanos was so basic, he was a big purple CGI alien with stones on the gauntlet. Now we are dealing with parallel dimensions which is a concept that has always thrown mainstream audiences off.
I wish antman 3 wasn’t so dark and weird with their lighting, I was looking forward to see Kang’s green and purple suit. It was too dim to appreciate the colors lol
I think kang’s lover ravonna will be the main reason why he wants to conquer eternity like a parallel when strange was trying to save Christine in what if
Funny how they don't know what happened next, yet they can time travel 🤔
You didn’t pay attention my guy Kang clearly said he knows how it all ends
Michael Douglass confirmed some of your theories in the interview he did yesterday. You def want to check it out. He even mentioned the mining and hinted at this is another reason why the Quantum realm will be important in this phase and the next
Kang not a more threat then Thanos? Lol wow
@T⃨E⃨L⃨E⃨G⃨R⃨A⃨M⃨ M⃨E⃨👉DENOFNERDS3 yeah right! Just stop
I think that alleged time loop was just meant to foreshadow the multiverseal war personally
Josh do you think Romulus would be In the picture early when Wolverine in the MCU happens? Also how quickly do you think we'll see Hickmans newer x men status be adapted to the screen since Geige has done a decent job at using pretty new stories and the older classic ones both with the same character. Also how do you think Mr Sinister will be portrayed? Build up in the background or one and done then possibly coming back at some point?
Dogs in strollers is 100% a thing in CA especially LA and SF LOL😂😂
I know in the comics there's numerous variants & it works of course, just worried how that will translate into live action & how the casual fans will react & understand what's going on
There are four movies on the slate for 2024... CA: New World Order, Thunderbolts, Blade and Deadpool 3. ...and Fantastic Four is slated for early 2025.
So with Kang Dynasty coming in May 2025, it requires no small amount of cognitive dissonance to simoultaneously believe that Shang-Chi 2, Doctor Strange 2, and a World War Hulk movie that is still tangled in rights issues, would all be coming "...before the next two Avengers movies..."
...and on top of that, whilst Spider-man 4 would have a Sony release date, It still seems like a push to also get that out before May 2025.
Nah. Go watch Michael Douglasses latest interview . Beware of spoilers. .Quantum Realm and Ant Man 3 very significant for the McU next phases confirmed.
What if the kid from Iron Man 3 becomes Iron Lad? He was at Tonys funeral and it could fit pretty well.
Being that the fantastic 4 were the first team to deal with Kang, I have no doubt that he will appear in that upcoming reboot.
Rama tut is a Kang variant… not at the time of the issue but was established years later when the official Kang was introduced
>>>> LOOK AT >>>> 17:41
Can he just kill all the new avengers so we get the originals back
everything is possible in the multiverse
@DanaWhites_CocaineDealer mentally more mature?!!we are taking about super hero movies my guy.
@DanaWhites_CocaineDealer also by the looks of it not many people are liking the new stuff they are putting out but what do I know
@DanaWhites_CocaineDealerso you are saying nobody wants Robert Downey Jr, savage hulk or Chris evans back? But let’s just agree to disagree
@DanaWhites_CocaineDealer woah relax my guy. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. Go outside touch some grass or go get a hug seems like you need it. Enjoy your day!!
Only one other actor has play multiple varients of a character and that's Tom Cavanagh on CW's Flash, (15 varients). The character of Harrison Wells (Earth 1), multiple varients of Wells from different Earth's AND Eobard Thawne (Matt Letscher) stealing Earth 1's Harrison Wells identity through future gene stealing technology (literally), killing Earth 1 Harrison Wells and taking his place, but is really Eobard Thawne underneath the face of Earth 1's HR and plotting revenge on the Flash for years. I applaud Tom for pulling this off. Jonathan Majors has a huge job ahead of him. He's already played 6 distinct varients so far AND an establsihing shot of what looks like hundreds of thousands of Kang varients, looking similar, but not having any specific or distinguishing character lines from them. This might be the ultimate actor's challenging role of his career. I wait in high hopes that he pulls this off successfully.
Just put Jonathan Majors in EVERYTHING, my wallet is ready.
Hey man E.A. Voss is in the game #newrockstars% excellent channel and the new DEEPDIVE CHANNEL IS DOPE AS ELL
Thanos should had been The 2nd & Kang The 3rd!! The Avengers should had been taking on The Masters of Evil because most of the members are from 🌎!! THEN branch out to space 🌌 where Thanos waits & search for the Infinity Gems
Kang sucks as a villain.
Appears there may be a connection between Kang and a possible mission of his to limit timeline universes to keep Celestials under control possibly to keep Galactus from emerging from his cloud monster fetus state as Alioth into an adult Galactus. The incursions of the multiverse appear to unleash Alioth fully incubated into Galactus where he feeds on world's fertilized with the Celestial young seeded inside living worlds.
With the Eternals plot still unresolved and the TVA timelines out of control the Incursion begins in the Marvel's upcoming film, and somehow, I think Kang the Celestials Galactus and the incursions are all connected.
Which means Kang may be a Hero Villian who's ultimate mission is to keep Galactus confined as Alioth in his fetal state at the end of time to prevent the end of everything sacrificing entire timelines and universes for a greater good. His war with his variants may be over this idea where his mission threatens their timeline universes and they disagree obviously and have gone to war over it for thier survival ultimately confining Kang in the quantum realm until Ant-Man appears to have stopped him.
There is debate that He Who Remains is the same Kang found trapped in the Quantum Realm that different time slices of him exist along an entangled timeline the very reason he knew he would be back even if Silvie killed him like domino's set up in a row each time slice of him effects the next until he arrives back where he was.
Which suggests this may also play into the Silver Surfer plot, Where Zenlaa the home of Silver Surfer may be incubating a Celestial that Galactus had meant to consume but spared in agreement to except his Herald. which may be the plot that causes the Silver Surfer to revolt against Galactus after he discovers living worlds alone are rejected by Galactus and Galactus tells him that the life energy he seeks isn't within the rejected world the Silver Surfer offers up to him, causing the Silver Surfer to suspect theres something different about his world and rushes off to investigate Zenlaa only to discover a Celestial fetus incubating within his home world's core which would threaten his planet when the emergence occurs.
The Silver Surfer asks Galactus "what is the entity within the core of Zenlaa"?
Galactus tells him, "It is the sustenance I denied I myself, That you should agree to become my Herald." "It will consume Zenlaa when it emerges,
Was this you're doing?"
"I am not responsible for seeding it there, It is the offspring of the other's, Celestials like myself, The emergence will not be for many eons."
"Than you knew my world will end before it's time regardless of our bargain that you would spare it!, Our bargain was to spare my world yet it's destruction was assured by your kind therefore our bargain is void and fraudulent and I therein end my service to you as Herald to Galactus!
I am about 80 percent certain I have figured out how the plot from Kang and the Celestials setup the Silver Surfer plot.
Kang is just setting up the conditions to allow Marvel to branch off into other plots including offering them a plausible return of deceased characters while allowing them to setup for Silver Surfer Fantastic Four and Secret Wars.
Kang was never meant to be an ultimate villain; He is the Anti-Hero who is trying to save and preserve the multiverse at any cost.
They'll do kang and kang dynasty and kang will be recasted under Johnathan majors teachings
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Ya gotta stop saying that scooper accounts are “confirming” things. They’re not. Totally misleading. I know everyone wants to be first to scoop but other accounts proclaiming things without actually knowing isn’t that. Be better.
I’m going to have a hard time watching a movie with a villain that mimics Big Trouble In Little China. Immortus is Lopan. Those 3 in post credits looked ridiculous. So, Rama-Tut is half robotic and Immortus is blue. I can do without Loveness writing. As more time has passed, I’m not liking this direction at all.
The stuff your saying sounds so good, but will it be accessible to the average watchers?
I think marvel prioritises them and the younger audience. Ultimately, I believe the story will end up relatively simplistic, sadly…
Kang defeating Eternity? He couldn't beat Ant-Man. C'mon guys.
More grounded shows and movies like the Captain America stuff and iron Man stuff you know just to conquering the world was big enough another hungry multiverses and inclusions and all these big words and all this fancy s*** and it just freaked me out