What Pastor Mensah Otabil.said is biblically and doctrinally correct. No man by himself can give anything except God gives it. His life and ministry is a prove that what he has subscribed to is true. What he saying is true. The Apostle Paul said: I am what I am by grace but I laboured above them all. Tapping into grace is just misinterpretation of scripture. Every man has to walk in obedience, and has been given grace. We must teach people to depend on God and not men. Sir am sorry to say but he is right and you're wrong.
A footballer can meet Messi to lay hands on him to start playing like him without going through the routine of Messi. So many are looking for cheap results without the work.
Greetings to you all brethren I hate to see men of God having misunderstandings in interpreting scriptures and messages of each other. Rev. Mensa hasn't said anything wrong. Neither has Bishop Owusu said something wrong. But I think their standing point of view of the matter, is the cause of the misunderstandings. First of all, the title of the message from Rev. Mensa will help you to understand the intent of his message. And remember he is talking to his congregation ( his family) as a father. Not all Christians. Though the message is good from every Christian, who sees from the right points of view I stand to be corrected if the need be. When interpreting the Holy Bible, you need to understand the context, the intent, the content and the environment in which a statement is made. Environment alone is divided into many parts: Social environment physical environment natural environment Mental environment Spiritual environment... etc To have a perfect meaning of words and issues you really need to consider these, before coming out with a good answer or meaning Those days in a literature English classroom, you are ask How?, Where?, when? and on what condition?, Having studied the above videos from Rev. Mensa and Bishop Owusu respectively. There's nothing in them that sounds deceitful or misleading I am appealing to you brethren, read the scriptures from Bishop Owusu and study the video message from Rev Mensa with a better translations and a better right point of view, you will have a better clarification and understanding. Am appealing to all ( all Christians), and Rev. Mensa, please sir don't take some of the content of the above comments personal. We all are learning. To Bishop Owusu, sir I believe you have a better means you can send messages to elders without UA-cam. I love you all, orderliness is next to godliness May God's spirit order our words and actions rightly, in a right directions and from the right point of view. Please let us learn to speak more on issues in such a way, it will multiply and unite us, we are brethren. WE ARE BRETHREN WE ARE STILL BRETHREN WE REMAIN BRETHREN AND RAPTURABLE...
If what you say is True. Such a family message should not be uploaded online. Let it stay within his congregation and not social media. Many young souls will encounter it online and their future maybe endangered by receiving an incomplete message. Which can easily cause misunderstanding. I don't blame the young man of God for making the corrections. He is trying to save the souls of this generation. If this Generation should failed to be imparted, surely the body of Christ will Digress backwardly.
Speaking from the point of exegesis, what pastor Mensa Otabil said and the response of Bishop Sam Owusu are totally different. I think the Bishop didn't get what Pastor Mensah Otabil was saying. No matter the impartation you receive from God through a man, without hard work it's useless. Impartation is not narrowed through laying on of hands. One can also receive impartation through teaching of the word of God. Secondly, impartation is becoming some sort of business amongst a certain cartel of pastors around the world. Some pastors take huge sums of money before they "impart" young preachers. Should a man give money before that person receives impartation? Impartation has principles and qualifications. But today many preachers have limited that qualification to money (taking seeds) before laying hands on young preachers. Also because of this money agenda, hands have been laid on a lot of people wrong people.
Minister of God, I will be very happy if you will listen to the whole message. He never spoke against impartation. I was at this meeting. Why can you base your argument just on a 5minute video, while the whole message is an hour message. Please I will entreat you ones again to watch the whole video. This video is so unfortunate. Calling this astute man of God named is so unfortunate.
Dear @abigailowusu What then is your candid response as against the two ministers with basis from the Word of Life? What do you think the Word of the Lord is saying concerning the issues raised by both?
@Sedybeats What am saying is that he has to really listen to the whole sermon. He spoke on the topic:Grace and works. Have you watched the whole sermon yourself? Do so and I will give you my opinion
@@abigailowusu2795 I have listened to both; now give me your take! And do give Biblical justifications for claims of the Dr. Otabil and the biblical justifications for the way of response by the Ambassador. There is only a doctrine and that is the doctrine of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Both men erred in some ways. What’s your opinion on the issues raised and how they were raised and in what manner….
It is increasingly becoming easy to be a moralist pointing fingers at everything when we ourselves cannot diagnose the little things and arise to walk with God as He wants. My sister the challenge is that we fight over the non essentials and tend to smile over the essentials without doing them to please the Lord.
@@sedyemileking Pastor Otabil is not fighting over anything. He just preached His message and someone used a time for church service to attack His message and His personality, even saying he has been in ministry for about a decade or two. Does this young Bishop know when He really started ministry? Am just surprised.
This second pastor is very ignorant, he is not addressing the issues he just wants to speak against it. Even church members do not agree, is Jesus a prophet or the messiah. This second preacher still needs bible lessons, is laying of hand grace. Everything he is saying he does not even understand it himself.
Man of God go back and listen again to the wisdom which Dr Otabil was saying and sit down to get understanding of what he was conveying and don't think you have arrive and let not pride drive you
This man is trying very hard to be relevant when you can clearly see his interpretation of the scriptures is still shallow … What Pastor Mensah Otabil said is not what you are sweating unnecessarily to pointlessly express with jargons …Please Pastor Sam take your time to learn and not RUSH!
I think you should be patient in listening, MoG. Mensah Otabil was addressing the issue of how people think laying of hands is just enough to rise to height, tell us anyone in the Bible who after laying of hands hadn't had his hands trained by works thru that courtesy of Grace. You have spoken a lot but you had responded to Mensah Otabil position.... that even if he lays hands the finality comes from God per sovereignty. You need to learn to listen to people , examine the concepts, and match with the. cultural position of the time. Be Patient MoG, You simply haven't made a point, verbosity is not measure of meaning
The errors I identified with your preaching 1. Before you critic any man's work, take time and play the whole tape and situate in context. 2. The man never said impartation is wrong but he said over reliance on impartation. 3. The man said no man can give grace to another. 4. Can you provide scripture to back that any of the apostle gave his grace to another. 5. All spiritual gifts has been listed in the Bible. 6. Online prayer isn't an anointing but the gift of prayer and taking advantage of social media. 7. Please next time listen, understand ans also analyse before ......
What Dr Mensa Otabil was said is biblical. He is directing his members to directly contacting God who is the giver of grace. Once you have grace, study and practising, which is he called works. He said if you want grace or anionting look unto God but you contact him for works i.e. how he studied Scripture, manage the church and does his things. I believed in impartation, which can be genuine or fake, depending on wether it is from God and satan. There many pastors who are not from God and so, we should be very careful about impartation.. Pastors are enslaving their members in Ghaan and Africa. That is why the Church in Ghana and Africa is abusing empty-headed Christians who can't rightly divide God's word. Work harder to perfect the grace that God has given us insead looking for short-cut through so-called impartation. This is the import of the message. If you want to honour him, you should have called him and discuss your misunderstanding instead of what you are doing. This shows you don't have anything to offer anyone. I have been born again since 1982.
Pls go back to cavalry. Pastor otalbil is right. GRACE at Christ's expense. Talking in anger is showing the whole world you need God's grace. Repent and know the truth. No man can impart grace. It can only be given by God not man. Christ died to save us by grace through His blood.
The second pastor Owusu doesn’t number the scriptures well the numbers scriptures that he quoted he should ask him self if Moses imparted any thing to the 70 men that God asked asked to bring before him it was God who did that. So you pastor there Can’t not impact anything to any human being unless God who can give you that grace . You have have to study the Bible well and rightly divide the truth more over remember anything that anything That Jesus Christ didn’t come to do in the Bible is not to be Practiced by Christians because isn’t Christ -Like . Remember in the Old Testament Moses law said in woman is court in committing sin with a man she should be stone to death by Mose law . But when Jesus came what did he say when the woman was court right with a man committing sin when she was brought before Jesus Christ he if anyone off u hasn’t committed sin that person should cast the first stone and told the woman not to commit that sin anymore. So is not everything in the Bible that is biblical for us Christians to believe or practice sin . More over Jesus Christ didn’t come to impact and off his gifts to his disciples nor did Paul came to do impact his gifts to anyone in the Bible as he preached so sir (Owusu) strongly studied the Bible well and rightly divided the truth. Where did all the men off God In Bible that he used came to sale water To people In Bible?Moses , Ellija, Elisha ,John, Jesus who sold water to congregations so do you call that one too the gifts of spirits too sir
Dr. Otabil wasn't talking about the gift of the spirit. He was talking about grace and works. Your response to Dr. Otabil is not in place because you are addressing a different topic.
I wonder why some of these so called "men of God" do not want to accept the fact that yes, the same God, Power and everything but He changes the way He walks with men, Hebrew 1:1-2 eg. Why no more animal sacrifice?? Always misinterpreting the Bible to siute their selfish gain,🤔 impartation of online prayer ministry indeed😏🤨
Sir, you never proved that anyone was "imapcted" without diligence? Sir moses impact Joshua who followed him for years, and all you mentioned followed for years and served for years. John the Baptist did not "impact" Jesus, i mean what many mean by using the word impaction. Dr never said no man can be impacted.
Awww, how many years did the disciples followed Jesus? And that word ordain do not mean what you mean.. the man never stop about the laying on of hands , he spoke about the lazy acts we young people are now into following men of God without any diligence and works into what God have called of for.. this act or mindset have produced alot of erroneous teachings and practice in the church
Did this pastor do all these in a church service. Lol absolutely ridiculous. Oga forgot about church service and started addressing another pastor. Ahhh Masa why
Did apostle Paul address Peter on eating with the Gentiles who were uncircumcised. Elijah against the prophets of baal. Stephen in the books of Acts blasted them publicly
This isn't the Gospel Christ taught us. And by the way, you ain't preaching Sir. The people gather in the house of God to receive from God. Your sermon can't entirely be delivered on another Minister like that.
Jesus laid hands on the disciples no man is greater than Jesus. Barnaba laid hands on Paul but Paul was more effective in ministry than any disciple Jesus laid hands on not because of anointing but hard work. pastors like you promote laziness. Paul wrote 2/3 of the bible because of works not grace. repent
If He is a very wise pastor He should learn great Lessons from what Dr Otabil said, what must He do? He is a very ignorant bishop and He needs more education than to come and argue publicly
Tis Bishop just expose his ignorance of scripture. If u think a fellow pastor is in error,u ve to address it with scripture not u have expérience. The scriptures Bishop u got has no relationship with impact impactation which come from the greek word metadidomi which means to give or share
I'm not sure you really understand the meaning of the message Dr.Otabil preached on the speaking in tongues!! He did not speak against it but was against the lazy way people use it to kill time in the name prayer. Speaking in tongues for prayer must actually come from the spirit within and not from your head . May God help us.
What Pastor Mensah Otabil.said is biblically and doctrinally correct. No man by himself can give anything except God gives it. His life and ministry is a prove that what he has subscribed to is true. What he saying is true. The Apostle Paul said: I am what I am by grace but I laboured above them all.
Tapping into grace is just misinterpretation of scripture. Every man has to walk in obedience, and has been given grace. We must teach people to depend on God and not men.
Sir am sorry to say but he is right and you're wrong.
A footballer can meet Messi to lay hands on him to start playing like him without going through the routine of Messi. So many are looking for cheap results without the work.
lol. punchline paa that o. lol
My friend is Messi a spiritual man absolutely rubbish
@@samueltetteytawiah9258You know nothing… you think football is raw as you see it
God bless you Sir
Pure clarity
Pastor Mensa Otabil is right.
Greetings to you all brethren
I hate to see men of God having misunderstandings in interpreting scriptures and messages of each other.
Rev. Mensa hasn't said anything wrong.
Neither has Bishop Owusu said something wrong. But I think their standing point of view of the matter, is the cause of the misunderstandings.
First of all, the title of the message from Rev. Mensa will help you to understand the intent of his message. And remember he is talking to his congregation ( his family) as a father. Not all Christians. Though the message is good from every Christian, who sees from the right points of view
I stand to be corrected if the need be.
When interpreting the Holy Bible, you need to understand the context, the intent, the content and the environment in which a statement is made. Environment alone is divided into many parts:
Social environment
physical environment
natural environment
Mental environment
Spiritual environment... etc
To have a perfect meaning of words and issues you really need to consider these, before coming out with a good answer or meaning
Those days in a literature English classroom, you are ask
How?, Where?, when? and on what condition?,
Having studied the above videos from Rev. Mensa and Bishop Owusu respectively.
There's nothing in them that sounds deceitful or misleading
I am appealing to you brethren, read the scriptures from Bishop Owusu and study the video message from Rev Mensa with a better translations and a better right point of view, you will have a better clarification and understanding.
Am appealing to all ( all Christians), and Rev. Mensa, please sir don't take some of the content of the above comments personal. We all are learning.
To Bishop Owusu, sir I believe you have a better means you can send messages to elders without UA-cam.
I love you all, orderliness is next to godliness
May God's spirit order our words and actions rightly, in a right directions and from the right point of view.
Please let us learn to speak more on issues in such a way, it will multiply and unite us, we are brethren.
WE ARE BRETHREN
WE ARE STILL BRETHREN
WE REMAIN BRETHREN AND RAPTURABLE...
If what you say is True. Such a family message should not be uploaded online. Let it stay within his congregation and not social media. Many young souls will encounter it online and their future maybe endangered by receiving an incomplete message. Which can easily cause misunderstanding.
I don't blame the young man of God for making the corrections. He is trying to save the souls of this generation.
If this Generation should failed to be imparted, surely the body of Christ will Digress backwardly.
Bless you sir
@@afolabipeter7479 I pray that the eyes of your understanding be enlightened to see and understand that which is truth… bless you
But Dr Otabil was speaking on Works, Grace and Excellence. Oso, this one de333, not not not.
POWER
Speaking from the point of exegesis, what pastor Mensa Otabil said and the response of Bishop Sam Owusu are totally different. I think the Bishop didn't get what Pastor Mensah Otabil was saying. No matter the impartation you receive from God through a man, without hard work it's useless. Impartation is not narrowed through laying on of hands. One can also receive impartation through teaching of the word of God.
Secondly, impartation is becoming some sort of business amongst a certain cartel of pastors around the world. Some pastors take huge sums of money before they "impart" young preachers. Should a man give money before that person receives impartation? Impartation has principles and qualifications. But today many preachers have limited that qualification to money (taking seeds) before laying hands on young preachers. Also because of this money agenda, hands have been laid on a lot of people wrong people.
Who is your mentor and whom did you sit under
You are right man of God. Impartation is a mystery the common sensical philosophical theological preachers cannot understand
Minister of God, I will be very happy if you will listen to the whole message.
He never spoke against impartation.
I was at this meeting.
Why can you base your argument just on a 5minute video, while the whole message is an hour message.
Please I will entreat you ones again to watch the whole video.
This video is so unfortunate.
Calling this astute man of God named is so unfortunate.
Dear @abigailowusu What then is your candid response as against the two ministers with basis from the Word of Life? What do you think the Word of the Lord is saying concerning the issues raised by both?
@Sedybeats What am saying is that he has to really listen to the whole sermon. He spoke on the topic:Grace and works.
Have you watched the whole sermon yourself?
Do so and I will give you my opinion
@@abigailowusu2795 I have listened to both; now give me your take! And do give Biblical justifications for claims of the Dr. Otabil and the biblical justifications for the way of response by the Ambassador.
There is only a doctrine and that is the doctrine of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Both men erred in some ways. What’s your opinion on the issues raised and how they were raised and in what manner….
It is increasingly becoming easy to be a moralist pointing fingers at everything when we ourselves cannot diagnose the little things and arise to walk with God as He wants.
My sister the challenge is that we fight over the non essentials and tend to smile over the essentials without doing them to please the Lord.
@@sedyemileking Pastor Otabil is not fighting over anything. He just preached His message and someone used a time for church service to attack His message and His personality, even saying he has been in ministry for about a decade or two. Does this young Bishop know when He really started ministry?
Am just surprised.
Hmmm Esau and Jacob they all worked hard ooo
This second pastor is very ignorant, he is not addressing the issues he just wants to speak against it. Even church members do not agree, is Jesus a prophet or the messiah. This second preacher still needs bible lessons, is laying of hand grace. Everything he is saying he does not even understand it himself.
Man of God go back and listen again to the wisdom which Dr Otabil was saying and sit down to get understanding of what he was conveying and don't think you have arrive and let not pride drive you
Do you know what is pride? Listen to what Bishop said he did not condemned Dr. Mensa pls. Am a proud member of ICGC Glorious Temple.
Elisha worked for that Grace
This man is trying very hard to be relevant when you can clearly see his interpretation of the scriptures is still shallow … What Pastor Mensah Otabil said is not what you are sweating unnecessarily to pointlessly express with jargons …Please Pastor Sam take your time to learn and not RUSH!
I think you should be patient in listening, MoG. Mensah Otabil was addressing the issue of how people think laying of hands is just enough to rise to height, tell us anyone in the Bible who after laying of hands hadn't had his hands trained by works thru that courtesy of Grace.
You have spoken a lot but you had responded to Mensah Otabil position.... that even if he lays hands the finality comes from God per sovereignty.
You need to learn to listen to people , examine the concepts, and match with the. cultural position of the time.
Be Patient MoG, You simply haven't made a point, verbosity is not measure of meaning
I wonder and keep wondering if Rev. Otabil was addressing Samuel Owusu. When did he grow to attack fathers? Hmmm...
The errors I identified with your preaching
1. Before you critic any man's work, take time and play the whole tape and situate in context.
2. The man never said impartation is wrong but he said over reliance on impartation.
3. The man said no man can give grace to another.
4. Can you provide scripture to back that any of the apostle gave his grace to another.
5. All spiritual gifts has been listed in the Bible.
6. Online prayer isn't an anointing but the gift of prayer and taking advantage of social media.
7. Please next time listen, understand ans also analyse before ......
What Dr Mensa Otabil was said is biblical. He is directing his members to directly contacting God who is the giver of grace. Once you have grace, study and practising, which is he called works. He said if you want grace or anionting look unto God but you contact him for works i.e. how he studied Scripture, manage the church and does his things. I believed in impartation, which can be genuine or fake, depending on wether it is from God and satan. There many pastors who are not from God and so, we should be very careful about impartation.. Pastors are enslaving their members in Ghaan and Africa. That is why the Church in Ghana and Africa is abusing empty-headed Christians who can't rightly divide God's word. Work harder to perfect the grace that God has given us insead looking for short-cut through so-called impartation. This is the import of the message. If you want to honour him, you should have called him and discuss your misunderstanding instead of what you are doing. This shows you don't have anything to offer anyone. I have been born again since 1982.
Oso, you're missing the point please
Someone should tell that Bishop or Pastor He is very ignorant
You are ignorant in the first place because you lack wisdom.
Pls go back to cavalry. Pastor otalbil is right. GRACE at Christ's expense. Talking in anger is showing the whole world you need God's grace. Repent and know the truth. No man can impart grace. It can only be given by God not man. Christ died to save us by grace through His blood.
Pure ignorance 🤷♂️ on the part of this 'perspective'. Enlighten yourself my brother.
The second pastor Owusu doesn’t number the scriptures well the numbers scriptures that he quoted he should ask him self if Moses imparted any thing to the 70 men that God asked asked to bring before him it was God who did that.
So you pastor there Can’t not impact anything to any human being unless God who can give you that grace .
You have have to study the Bible well and rightly divide the truth more over remember anything that anything That Jesus Christ didn’t come to do in the Bible is not to be Practiced by Christians because isn’t Christ -Like .
Remember in the Old Testament Moses law said in woman is court in committing sin with a man she should be stone to death by Mose law .
But when Jesus came what did he say when the woman was court right with a man committing sin when she was brought before Jesus Christ he if anyone off u hasn’t committed sin that person should cast the first stone and told the woman not to commit that sin anymore.
So is not everything in the Bible that is biblical for us Christians to believe or practice sin .
More over Jesus Christ didn’t come to impact and off his gifts to his disciples nor did Paul came to do impact his gifts to anyone in the Bible as he preached so sir (Owusu) strongly studied the Bible well and rightly divided the truth.
Where did all the men off God In Bible that he used came to sale water To people In Bible?Moses , Ellija, Elisha ,John, Jesus who sold water to congregations so do you call that one too the gifts of spirits too sir
Dr. Otabil wasn't talking about the gift of the spirit. He was talking about grace and works. Your response to Dr. Otabil is not in place because you are addressing a different topic.
Sir, i think you are correcting what he never said, you are just offended because you mostly are found doing impaction..
I wonder why some of these so called "men of God" do not want to accept the fact that yes, the same God, Power and everything but He changes the way He walks with men, Hebrew 1:1-2 eg. Why no more animal sacrifice?? Always misinterpreting the Bible to siute their selfish gain,🤔 impartation of online prayer ministry indeed😏🤨
Sir, you never proved that anyone was "imapcted" without diligence? Sir moses impact Joshua who followed him for years, and all you mentioned followed for years and served for years.
John the Baptist did not "impact" Jesus, i mean what many mean by using the word impaction. Dr never said no man can be impacted.
Awww, how many years did the disciples followed Jesus? And that word ordain do not mean what you mean.. the man never stop about the laying on of hands , he spoke about the lazy acts we young people are now into following men of God without any diligence and works into what God have called of for.. this act or mindset have produced alot of erroneous teachings and practice in the church
Did this pastor do all these in a church service. Lol absolutely ridiculous.
Oga forgot about church service and started addressing another pastor. Ahhh Masa why
Praying for someone is not transferring grace, these people are manipulating the Bible.
You can't address your fellow man of God in a church service...... This is not right.... Preach Christ not discussing other people's sermon.
Did apostle Paul address Peter on eating with the Gentiles who were uncircumcised. Elijah against the prophets of baal. Stephen in the books of Acts blasted them publicly
Vague
Sorry sir what u are saying is a lie
This isn't the Gospel Christ taught us. And by the way, you ain't preaching Sir. The people gather in the house of God to receive from God. Your sermon can't entirely be delivered on another Minister like that.
This man is in error. How can you say John the Baptist was bathing people?
Preaching anti fellow Minister and not preaching Christ. Sadddddd
Jesus laid hands on the disciples no man is greater than Jesus. Barnaba laid hands on Paul but Paul was more effective in ministry than any disciple Jesus laid hands on not because of anointing but hard work. pastors like you promote laziness. Paul wrote 2/3 of the bible because of works not grace. repent
If He is a very wise pastor He should learn great Lessons from what Dr Otabil said, what must He do? He is a very ignorant bishop and He needs more education than to come and argue publicly
Tis Bishop just expose his ignorance of scripture. If u think a fellow pastor is in error,u ve to address it with scripture not u have expérience. The scriptures Bishop u got has no relationship with impact impactation which come from the greek word metadidomi which means to give or share
Pastor mensah otabil doesn't believe in spiritual things. I remember once he spoke against the speaking of Tongues and now against Impartation,Smh😏
@imike please have you listened to the whole message you are talking about yourself?
Please listen to the whole message and criticize it contextually
I'm not sure you really understand the meaning of the message Dr.Otabil preached on the speaking in tongues!!
He did not speak against it but was against the lazy way people use it to kill time in the name prayer.
Speaking in tongues for prayer must actually come from the spirit within and not from your head .
May God help us.
Seriously. First listen to the sermon then talk
Alot just talking without understanding that's why the false prophets are destroying Africa. Listen to understand not talk or critised.
He didn't speak against tongues. He gave Biblical perspectives into tongues.