I am heartbroken this audio series will not continue. This is was such a brilliant concept to revisit the characters we love. You can tell how much care and love went into this project. If Disney really is planning to do something, I hope they go with an animated series, so that these actors can keep breathing life into these beloved characters💖
Will it not? Why? I heard in some interview that if this will be a success, they will continue. Was it not a success? I'm listening to it now and I really love it! It brings me to tears as I feel kind of a part of this family. They all are such a wonderful crew!
already listened to the audiobook like 10 times, they have such great voices and i am so happy to have them with me where ever i go, definitely will be needing more!!
I am TOTALLY on board with this except for one tiny thing: it's weird to hear Drusilla speak directly about anything. That whole "A stake through the arm? Is that the best you can do Slayer?" should be more like "Oi, a splinter. A splinter most foul. Foul and fair and fair and foul and most unfair this upstart fowl vying to play the rooster et al." Then she pulls the stake out and licks it or even bites into it and "Tastes like Tuesday. Was that her name?...No, that was when oi plucked her from the tree and ate the fruit 'anging on her branches. A vineyard ran through her arms, and the vintage still sweetens with toime."
You got her spot on 😂 I was honestly a bit disappointed with the whole project tbf. Definitely seemed more like the actors reading fanfic of themselves rather than a continuation of their characters.
I definitely feel it was justice for Cordelia. I thought producers of Angel made a mistake killing off such a popular character. Cordelia was the heart and soul of Angel. If the show had been renewed, it would of been easy too bring Cordy back. Suppose she acquired the ability to teleport from the powers that be. So she could of had someone call Angel, and she did a disappearing act. But i also feel another season should of delt with her redemption.
@@malcolmdrake6137Are you say Buffy did not also whine literally Anya and Buffy and Dawn and Zander ane Andew all had angst and were facing personal and world ending dread. Charisma is really fun actresss. I didnt ans many fans can see / hear how she was treated by her employer over had own life choice
I've been binge-watching both Buffy and Angel so seeing this come up as I'm watching the show is a little trippy. But everyone still looks great! They've all aged very well. I ran into Charisma Carpenter very briefly at a convention last month and was able to tell her that I'd been loving the shows
This looks so freakin kool. The Buffy verse lends itself to sooo much given what we know is possible just in passing canonically (shrimp/shrimp less au?) it’s just so exciting seeing it finally expressed outside of comics. I’m so happy to see amber involved so deeply and Clem came out of left field but in the best way. Cordy being the one to kick ass as a slayer is just gonna scratch that itch that slayerfest’98 first tickled in us.🥰💜💜
I remember loving this show as a kid, was probably the first show I watched religiously when it was on tv. Can't believe how well they have aged, its been 20 years
This is *wonderful* to discover! I will consider renewing my subscription to Audible, just to be able to listen to this. To see so many of the original series actors involved is fantastic, because I have thought for some time *something* could be done to keep the story going. Welcome back, everyone, esp Spike and Cordelia!
This came out the day before I was driving to see my mom. It is a 3 hour trip either way. So, that sorted out my driving entertainment. Even though it wasn't our Cordelia, this was a much better ending for Charisma Carpenter than the injustice she got from Joss Whedon. I love that the three former scoobies that died in "our" universe were all alive in the other one. I really hope you all make another one.
In a series of stories by the late Cordyfan on the Twisting The Hellmouth fanfiction website, A Different Future, Cordy IS a sister Slayer, alongside her half sister Buffy!
And in another series, Ode To A City by batzulger, Drusilla takes up residence in Gotham City and starts training a Slayer there! And meets a Dark Countenance.
seeing, or hearing LOL dru being the big villain is that it's a totally new side to her, with it being an alternate world and such so we get to have an entirely different take on the character, she still has mad points but she's different and of course Charisma, she was screwed over in Angel thanks to a certain someone so to see her take on this new role it just makes her so iconic.
I was still heartbroken that Joss the Wker Killed of Charisma Carpenter character, I would love to see Cordy as a older slayer who lived. But this helps a little bit.. But as ever.. WE NEED MORE OF ALL OF ABOVE CHARACTER.. Everyone is sorely missed greatly..
Sarah's been kind of reclusive these last 10 years aside from a Tide commercial she did with Freddie Prinze during the Pandemic. Oh, and an interview she did for Insider or GQ on YT last year I think. I think she may be largely done with everything.
Sarah has said she has a lot of love and respect for the character, but has kinda more or less said she's finished playing her. Anyway, the story was written in a way that, honestly, there's no real place for her. This wasn't a story about Buffy. I would have loved it, don't get me wrong, but with the story as it was, a Buffy appearance would have just felt a bit forced. At least IMO😂
Thank you! It’s so hard to find Buffy fans who aren’t biased. I listened to the sample, thought it seemed a bit crap, but everyone was raving about it so I thought I would give it a chance….it is a bit crap. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the nostalgia, but the story was predictable, the characters didn’t seem authentic and the underlying message was this cookie cutter, good in all of us, blah, blah, blah. Don’t get me wrong, I listened to the whole thing, but considering I’ve seen every episode of Buffy in excess of 50 times (excluding some of season 4 and 5), I wouldn’t choose to listen to this again. It had so much potential and they could have done so much with it, but I feel they feel short.
@@dafinchimusic7480 For me, it is the whole multiverse thing I can't stand anymore. It is just a convenient and lazy way to justify everything. I am glad that Cordy and Tara are back but coming from an alternative universe ? In BTVS, it was just a joke, not a major plot.
I agree. This is cringe level 💯 no Buffy, Willow, Xander. We love this show and all that it is. It is time To move on. These actors need to do something else. Clamor for it? Nah. I’ll pass. It’s like when they rebooted charmed. Leave Buffy alone. It’s a beautiful wonderful world of 7 seasons.
Amber always looks like she's got a cold haha but seriously how do these guys look the same as I always remembered them, get them a new TV show damn it.
Honesty, I really love that after Whedon kinda f-cked over Charisma, she got to revisit Cordie in a new and fresh way. Also anytime I see Emma, even now, she is Anya to me. Same with Anthony as Giles. I am SO mad at Disney for refusing to renew this
This is lovely and at least something. But a Buffyverse without having Buffy herself in it, just always feels incredibly off. Yes there are other Slayers, but Buffy is the game changing icon. It's like putting some random in place of Superman or Batman, and I don't see that happening.
Once again, it's not about one character, there is no I in team it wasn't about Sarah Michelle Gellar or just Buffy it was about the group. Team buff not just on her own team Sarah Michelle Gellar.. besides charisma is playing the Slayer, Sarah does it need to be in it and it will survive without her.
@@misslanapaulford And Superman/Batman was also about Lois Lane, Supergirl, Robin, Batgirl, and Alfred Pennyworth? Your logic comes from a place in which you liked other BtVS cast members (which is fine to an extent), more than the actual lead cast member, attached to the bonds/friendships that took place, and completely blind to the reality of the overall product. The story is said time and time again to be about Buffy's journey. Buffy did & didn't save the world on her own, she had a group, but she also had herself from start to finish. I'm fully aware that this is a *alternate universe* within the *BUFFYVERSE.* Nobody even said anything about Sarah Michelle Gellar either?? Why bring her up?
It's just too bad it's not written by Buffy writers -- and it shows. Still waiting for a true Buffy sequel-series/years-later next-generation spinoff with classic characters as supporting and guest stars. Whedon and a new showrunner should do it together, and Whedon just agrees to only write, and never come to set -- so the actors will be willing to come back.
Well he was basically away during S4 and S5 so if you could enjoy those seasons then this shouldn't be a problem. People so often forget that there where tons of writers and Joss wasn't the only show runner.
It's a complicated thing... It turns out Joss Whedon did not manage his bad days in such a way as to avoid making them other people's bad days. Everyone makes mistakes, of course, we're all human, but the mature thing to do, then, is to take a step back and recognize where one may have acted unfairly, apologize, and strive to do better. This appears to be something Joss Whedon is bad at. That has in turn led to some degree of bad blood between him and a few people who have worked for him, who were the targets of his unfair behavior, and it has overall damaged his reputation and, with it, his career. He could make some effort to reach out and repair things, but his ego seems to be in the way, as when he did speak about the situation, it was mostly to deflect the blame and minimalize his own faults. The longer he fails to address it in a mature manner, take responsibility and sincerely apologize, the less likely it is that people will forgive him. So there are reasons why Joss isn't involved, but yes, it's kind of weird that it's happening at all.
@@Swenglish there is also the whole thing where workplaces (and in Hollywood in particular) allowing gifted people to be asshats so the normal societal rules that would quickly stop you and me from continuing on that path and instead beginning to contemplate our own behavior doesn't really kick in here until it is far too late.
@@Henrik_Holst Yeah, there's definitely a cultural problem in the industry. In a lot of industries, really, and in just about any hierarchical system. In a hierarchical system, accountability exists mainly on a hierarchical basis. Joss Whedon would be accountable to people "above" him, but not to people "below" him, and so it seems that whenever he would get frustrated with the people "above" him for meddling with the creative process or screwing him over in some way, select individuals "below" him would suffer for it through his casually cruel remarks and threats to their careers or whatever. There's some unhealthy sense of validation in that. Schoolyard bullies do the same thing (often because they feel powerless in the hierarchy at home, so they create a secondary abusive hierarchy where they can be the one in power), and if nobody steps in and actually keeps an eye on them, they don't stop, and then they grow up to be just as bad as their parents or whatever, and it's like, at a certain point, one can't just keep blaming them for ones own cruelty. It's each individual's responsibility, no matter how traumatized and tortured, to grow the hell up and learn not to pay cruelty forward. That's not to say it's easy, but "hurt people hurt people" is an observation, not an excuse, and these hierarchies have a tendency to keep the chain of abuse going. It's kind of a fundamental problem with hierarchies in general, and the only way to insert more accountability is if a lot of people get together and collectively demand it, because there is power in numbers. But that too can be weaponized in unfair ways, and that's a whole other conversation. None of this is to say that the individual is not responsible for their own behavior.
I’m really sad to say that this satiates nothing for me… I wanted to love it but I just don’t. It sounds like a children’s cartoon like The Power Puff Girls or something. The voice acting from the new slayer is unbearable and super cringe.
It amazes me that most of these people involved in this project have no problem, benefiting monetarily from the work and the creation of a man they got together and killed his career. The guy was so horrible and treated these people so badly I guess but they have no problem trying to get a paycheck from his work. The same work that they used to kill his livelihood. They couldn’t get a job so they leach off Joss. Who are the vampire now?
@@blacksailsfan4life a real fan would know how much of a Primadonna, argent, narcissist Charisma was while filming the show. A real fan would also know why she was fired from Angel and how much of a handful she was. And a real fan would know that most older seasoned guests stars that were in the show and a couple that regulars thought the cast was the most immature and unprofessional cast on TV at that time and that Joss had to babysit everyday.
What is wrong with the actress who plays Indira? How can you listen to an audio drama while working? She must think of only work that doesn’t require mental effort. I suppose her mouth is not connected to her brain. 😂
I am heartbroken this audio series will not continue. This is was such a brilliant concept to revisit the characters we love. You can tell how much care and love went into this project. If Disney really is planning to do something, I hope they go with an animated series, so that these actors can keep breathing life into these beloved characters💖
Will it not? Why? I heard in some interview that if this will be a success, they will continue. Was it not a success? I'm listening to it now and I really love it! It brings me to tears as I feel kind of a part of this family. They all are such a wonderful crew!
Amber is just such a pure force, so happy she has managed to pull this off. :')
Everyone still looks & sound great, we need more episodes with this mob.
Just toss in a throwaway line about vampires with souls ageing slowly and you're good.
Landau IS a vampire so she pretty much looks the same anyhow.
already listened to the audiobook like 10 times, they have such great voices and i am so happy to have them with me where ever i go, definitely will be needing more!!
25 years later and I am finally almost used to James' real accent. Almost.
I am TOTALLY on board with this except for one tiny thing: it's weird to hear Drusilla speak directly about anything. That whole "A stake through the arm? Is that the best you can do Slayer?" should be more like "Oi, a splinter. A splinter most foul. Foul and fair and fair and foul and most unfair this upstart fowl vying to play the rooster et al." Then she pulls the stake out and licks it or even bites into it and "Tastes like Tuesday. Was that her name?...No, that was when oi plucked her from the tree and ate the fruit 'anging on her branches. A vineyard ran through her arms, and the vintage still sweetens with toime."
I totally heard all of that in her voice hahah
Oh nice work
Yea you got her lmao
but for audio only, we wouldnt know wtf was ever going on if Dru just talked like Dru.
You got her spot on 😂 I was honestly a bit disappointed with the whole project tbf. Definitely seemed more like the actors reading fanfic of themselves rather than a continuation of their characters.
you just summoned Dru! Loved every word of it
I definitely feel it was justice for Cordelia. I thought producers of Angel made a mistake killing off such a popular character. Cordelia was the heart and soul of Angel. If the show had been renewed, it would of been easy too bring Cordy back. Suppose she acquired the ability to teleport from the powers that be. So she could of had someone call Angel, and she did a disappearing act. But i also feel another season should of delt with her redemption.
Season 1 2 and 5 are the good seasons of angel
And Charisma too. She originally auditioned as the slayer
@@MINKIN2 glade she didn’t get it
True, the show would've been canceled first season, if a whiny actress like Charisma had to carry it.
@@malcolmdrake6137Are you say Buffy did not also whine literally Anya and Buffy and Dawn and Zander ane Andew all had angst and were facing personal and world ending dread. Charisma is really fun actresss. I didnt ans many fans can see / hear how she was treated by her employer over had own life choice
Amber you are the best❤
I've been binge-watching both Buffy and Angel so seeing this come up as I'm watching the show is a little trippy. But everyone still looks great! They've all aged very well. I ran into Charisma Carpenter very briefly at a convention last month and was able to tell her that I'd been loving the shows
This looks so freakin kool. The Buffy verse lends itself to sooo much given what we know is possible just in passing canonically (shrimp/shrimp less au?) it’s just so exciting seeing it finally expressed outside of comics. I’m so happy to see amber involved so deeply and Clem came out of left field but in the best way. Cordy being the one to kick ass as a slayer is just gonna scratch that itch that slayerfest’98 first tickled in us.🥰💜💜
I hope they make more of these :)
I remember loving this show as a kid, was probably the first show I watched religiously when it was on tv. Can't believe how well they have aged, its been 20 years
I teared up...finally reason to try out audible
I love all of you guys so glad you are doing this
Spike and Dru, still my fave fantasy couple. So good to see and hear them again
This is *wonderful* to discover! I will consider renewing my subscription to Audible, just to be able to listen to this. To see so many of the original series actors involved is fantastic, because I have thought for some time *something* could be done to keep the story going. Welcome back, everyone, esp Spike and Cordelia!
I just renewed my subscription to listen to this
I renewed my Audible for this and it is amazing! ❤
A great resurrection(s) story!
I just love these people. ❤
This came out the day before I was driving to see my mom. It is a 3 hour trip either way. So, that sorted out my driving entertainment. Even though it wasn't our Cordelia, this was a much better ending for Charisma Carpenter than the injustice she got from Joss Whedon. I love that the three former scoobies that died in "our" universe were all alive in the other one. I really hope you all make another one.
I love how emotional James Leary is about being involved 20 years later despite only being in like 2 episodes lol
Or, well, eight episodes, per IMDB. And people love Clem, man.
Please do a second season! We need more!!!!!!!
Ohhh We need sooo much more..
Could we also have a adult cartoon of this.
That guy was Clem!, cool 😎
please make more!
In a series of stories by the late Cordyfan on the Twisting The Hellmouth fanfiction website, A Different Future, Cordy IS a sister Slayer, alongside her half sister Buffy!
And in another series, Ode To A City by batzulger, Drusilla takes up residence in Gotham City and starts training a Slayer there! And meets a Dark Countenance.
seeing, or hearing LOL dru being the big villain is that it's a totally new side to her, with it being an alternate world and such so we get to have an entirely different take on the character, she still has mad points but she's different and of course Charisma, she was screwed over in Angel thanks to a certain someone so to see her take on this new role it just makes her so iconic.
Spike and Druuuu
Kinda wanted a series of James and Charisma's characters on Supernatural. That would have been, as they say, a hoot!
I was still heartbroken that Joss the Wker Killed of Charisma Carpenter character, I would love to see Cordy as a older slayer who lived. But this helps a little bit..
But as ever..
WE NEED MORE OF ALL OF ABOVE CHARACTER..
Everyone is sorely missed greatly..
She needed firing.
Clem! CLEM! IT'S CLEM
Yes! More Clem!
Okay ... excited now. Time to find out if I can get this without signing up to Audible for the rest of my life :D.
I'm looking Forward for a parallel universe where Angelus and dark Willow Team up and take over the world
❤❤❤
I’d love to see Cordelia being a vampire slayer in live action!! That would be epic!! Netflix series of a Buffy multiverse?! Please 🙏 lol
I wish it was animated
Can't wait for this :)
Its out now!! Run, don't walk!
So glad spike lives on. He deserved better than being buffys lap dog.
They should animate it
This looks awesome.. but my biggest question is could they not get Sarah to come back? Also Eliza? We need faith
Sarah's been kind of reclusive these last 10 years aside from a Tide commercial she did with Freddie Prinze during the Pandemic. Oh, and an interview she did for Insider or GQ on YT last year I think. I think she may be largely done with everything.
Sarah has said she has a lot of love and respect for the character, but has kinda more or less said she's finished playing her. Anyway, the story was written in a way that, honestly, there's no real place for her. This wasn't a story about Buffy. I would have loved it, don't get me wrong, but with the story as it was, a Buffy appearance would have just felt a bit forced.
At least IMO😂
Sarah is done with Buffy to a point that she doesn't feel the need to be involved in sort of way no more. She wants to move foward from it...
@@TheomiteSarah has been doing voices on Star Wars (Seventh Sister) and He-Man (Teela) animated shows. And she’s done Wolf Pack and Do Revenge.
Does Drusilla have a soul too now?
I listened to the 5 minute sample on audible. I can’t lie it sounded a bit crap. But that’s just me. I hope other Buffy fans get some joy out of it.
Thank you! It’s so hard to find Buffy fans who aren’t biased. I listened to the sample, thought it seemed a bit crap, but everyone was raving about it so I thought I would give it a chance….it is a bit crap. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the nostalgia, but the story was predictable, the characters didn’t seem authentic and the underlying message was this cookie cutter, good in all of us, blah, blah, blah. Don’t get me wrong, I listened to the whole thing, but considering I’ve seen every episode of Buffy in excess of 50 times (excluding some of season 4 and 5), I wouldn’t choose to listen to this again. It had so much potential and they could have done so much with it, but I feel they feel short.
@@dafinchimusic7480 For me, it is the whole multiverse thing I can't stand anymore. It is just a convenient and lazy way to justify everything. I am glad that Cordy and Tara are back but coming from an alternative universe ? In BTVS, it was just a joke, not a major plot.
I agree. This is cringe level 💯 no Buffy, Willow, Xander. We love this show and all that it is. It is time
To move on. These actors need to do something else. Clamor for it? Nah. I’ll pass. It’s like when they rebooted charmed. Leave Buffy alone. It’s a beautiful wonderful world of 7 seasons.
Since this was filmed, it would be great to watch the whole thing...ps, amber benson, u are still the most beautiful woman in the world ❤
when was this filmed?
I'd guess not longer than 3 months ago
Feb-March 2023
Is the whole cast the ones that died in the original series? Did the cast anti age they look amazing maybe they are vampires!
Cordellia's the slayer?
When where how can I get this
Cordy was always the slayer.
SEASON 2! SEASON 2!
Amber always looks like she's got a cold haha but seriously how do these guys look the same as I always remembered them, get them a new TV show damn it.
Honesty, I really love that after Whedon kinda f-cked over Charisma, she got to revisit Cordie in a new and fresh way. Also anytime I see Emma, even now, she is Anya to me. Same with Anthony as Giles. I am SO mad at Disney for refusing to renew this
I never saw him in that way but Giles is hot af
I get why it’s difficult for Sarah and David to be part of this but why no Alyson?
Alyson is still friend with Whedon, I think, and this team is showing they can make a sequel without him.
Willow wouldn’t be in an AU where Tara is alive. That’s why it’s an AU.
@@happyrotter1989Any proof?
@@tananario23 No proof, just presumptions. She did not speak about Whedon in 2021 during the call out.
Oh, she IS SO "well rounded"! No way to measure square anything with those delightful, no right angles, curves!
If they can do this why not do this but in a anime or something?
Giles sounded very .. different
Who wrote this story?
Amber Benson, I guess. But multiverse is really not my cup of tea. You can justify everything you want with that. It is overused.
I’m sorry, but how has Anthony Stewart Head gotten even hotter?….
This is lovely and at least something. But a Buffyverse without having Buffy herself in it, just always feels incredibly off. Yes there are other Slayers, but Buffy is the game changing icon. It's like putting some random in place of Superman or Batman, and I don't see that happening.
It’s 2023.
Once again, it's not about one character, there is no I in team it wasn't about Sarah Michelle Gellar or just Buffy it was about the group. Team buff not just on her own team Sarah Michelle Gellar.. besides charisma is playing the Slayer, Sarah does it need to be in it and it will survive without her.
@@tananario23 And?
@@misslanapaulford And Superman/Batman was also about Lois Lane, Supergirl, Robin, Batgirl, and Alfred Pennyworth?
Your logic comes from a place in which you liked other BtVS cast members (which is fine to an extent), more than the actual lead cast member, attached to the bonds/friendships that took place, and completely blind to the reality of the overall product.
The story is said time and time again to be about Buffy's journey. Buffy did & didn't save the world on her own, she had a group, but she also had herself from start to finish.
I'm fully aware that this is a *alternate universe* within the *BUFFYVERSE.* Nobody even said anything about Sarah Michelle Gellar either?? Why bring her up?
Waaaaaaaiiiit, Juliet isn't British either?
Considering that her parents, who starred together in the original “Mission Impossible,” were American, nope.
Oh no.
I enjoyed Laya's new character but not the story overall
Is something wrong with Anthony Head? Hopefully not, but his speech is slurred.
he may have dentures which alters speech similarly
It's just too bad it's not written by Buffy writers -- and it shows.
Still waiting for a true Buffy sequel-series/years-later next-generation spinoff with classic characters as supporting and guest stars. Whedon and a new showrunner should do it together, and Whedon just agrees to only write, and never come to set -- so the actors will be willing to come back.
No Buffy? Pass.
diversity EVEN in audiobooks.....
Diversity is a good thing. People that complain about it are very sus.
Ignorant comment
@@ki5h0re exactly and he acts like Kendra never existed
I love Buffy, but if Joss Whedon has no involvement, its not Buffy, lbh.
And without Buffy, Willow or Xander. How can there be a Tara without having Willow?
Well he was basically away during S4 and S5 so if you could enjoy those seasons then this shouldn't be a problem. People so often forget that there where tons of writers and Joss wasn't the only show runner.
It's a complicated thing... It turns out Joss Whedon did not manage his bad days in such a way as to avoid making them other people's bad days. Everyone makes mistakes, of course, we're all human, but the mature thing to do, then, is to take a step back and recognize where one may have acted unfairly, apologize, and strive to do better. This appears to be something Joss Whedon is bad at. That has in turn led to some degree of bad blood between him and a few people who have worked for him, who were the targets of his unfair behavior, and it has overall damaged his reputation and, with it, his career. He could make some effort to reach out and repair things, but his ego seems to be in the way, as when he did speak about the situation, it was mostly to deflect the blame and minimalize his own faults. The longer he fails to address it in a mature manner, take responsibility and sincerely apologize, the less likely it is that people will forgive him.
So there are reasons why Joss isn't involved, but yes, it's kind of weird that it's happening at all.
@@Swenglish there is also the whole thing where workplaces (and in Hollywood in particular) allowing gifted people to be asshats so the normal societal rules that would quickly stop you and me from continuing on that path and instead beginning to contemplate our own behavior doesn't really kick in here until it is far too late.
@@Henrik_Holst Yeah, there's definitely a cultural problem in the industry. In a lot of industries, really, and in just about any hierarchical system. In a hierarchical system, accountability exists mainly on a hierarchical basis. Joss Whedon would be accountable to people "above" him, but not to people "below" him, and so it seems that whenever he would get frustrated with the people "above" him for meddling with the creative process or screwing him over in some way, select individuals "below" him would suffer for it through his casually cruel remarks and threats to their careers or whatever. There's some unhealthy sense of validation in that. Schoolyard bullies do the same thing (often because they feel powerless in the hierarchy at home, so they create a secondary abusive hierarchy where they can be the one in power), and if nobody steps in and actually keeps an eye on them, they don't stop, and then they grow up to be just as bad as their parents or whatever, and it's like, at a certain point, one can't just keep blaming them for ones own cruelty. It's each individual's responsibility, no matter how traumatized and tortured, to grow the hell up and learn not to pay cruelty forward. That's not to say it's easy, but "hurt people hurt people" is an observation, not an excuse, and these hierarchies have a tendency to keep the chain of abuse going. It's kind of a fundamental problem with hierarchies in general, and the only way to insert more accountability is if a lot of people get together and collectively demand it, because there is power in numbers. But that too can be weaponized in unfair ways, and that's a whole other conversation. None of this is to say that the individual is not responsible for their own behavior.
I’m really sad to say that this satiates nothing for me… I wanted to love it but I just don’t. It sounds like a children’s cartoon like The Power Puff Girls or something. The voice acting from the new slayer is unbearable and super cringe.
Hypocrites
It amazes me that most of these people involved in this project have no problem, benefiting monetarily from the work and the creation of a man they got together and killed his career. The guy was so horrible and treated these people so badly I guess but they have no problem trying to get a paycheck from his work. The same work that they used to kill his livelihood. They couldn’t get a job so they leach off Joss. Who are the vampire now?
@@blacksailsfan4life not crying, but good try. Also who is Warren
@@blacksailsfan4life ah please
@@blacksailsfan4life a real fan would know how much of a Primadonna, argent, narcissist Charisma was while filming the show. A real fan would also know why she was fired from Angel and how much of a handful she was. And a real fan would know that most older seasoned guests stars that were in the show and a couple that regulars thought the cast was the most immature and unprofessional cast on TV at that time and that Joss had to babysit everyday.
What is wrong with the actress who plays Indira? How can you listen to an audio drama while working? She must think of only work that doesn’t require mental effort. I suppose her mouth is not connected to her brain. 😂
Nor are your fingers connected to yours! 🧠