My favorite thing he does in the books is knighting four random sellswords and absorbing them into his household in Feast, it's incredibly funny and in character for him to take advantage of the fact that knights can make new knights for pretty much no reason.
If the Reyne theory is true. Then Bronn must be injoining the current version of the mod which let's you play as Roger Reyne. The only other person that might like it more is Catelyn Stark, simply cus the Freys and Lannisters are allied in the mod and it let's her kill Walder and Tywin in one war.
Reminds me of how I play CK2 "Hmm I have no sons but I have all these wives and lands... uh... you there how would you like three duchies, my niece, becoming my regent, and a place on my council?"
Almost as messed up as naming the man with less story than almost anyone, a guy who said he wanted no throne, the King. Bran the Broken is the real villain fr.
@@elijahalbistonBran becoming king would at least be a possibility in the books (If they ever get finished) and might even make Sense with the right setup. It could have even have sense in the show with one more season. But Bronn as master of coin ? Absolute bullshit. Minor Lord should be the height of his achievement If he doesn't get assassinated for causing too much trouble.
I think the biggest part if Bronn's book character is how little he asks for. He takes everything offered, but never once does he try playing the game. For as cut throat as he is, he also is just good at his job. Tyrion offers gold and power, and he takes it. Tywin gives him knighthood. He takes it. Lolles needs to be married. He marries her. Just by being around the winning side and not overstepping, other people are playing the game and dying around him. He just does what other people think themselves above. He isn't held down by pride or honor. When other lords refused to marry Lolles, he did. He is such a shock to the system that he will just walk several lordships
The irony is he is probably the most honorable character in the series. If he says he'll do something he'll do it without any hidden agenda. As long as you keep to the terms and pay him what's owed he will keep his word. Plus you always know where he stands, while others are pretending to be loyal for loyalty sake Bronn makes it known he is only loyal to whoever is paying him currently
@@alexmartin3143 well that's a morality thing then an honor thing. Nothing in the show or books suggests that if he were to be paid to escort the baby to a different town that he'd take money from a 3rd party to kill the baby instead..... Now if that 3rd party approaches him AFTER he delivered the baby and fulfilled his current contract that's a completely different story lol
I really like The Theory that Bronn will end every ASoIaF book in a better position than he was in the last book. Bronn being one of the surviving characters is just a hilarious idea for someone who started as a pretty minor character.
That would be typical GRRM irony for you, the guy who had nothing going for him in the beginning ends up getting everything everyone else had. Where do you think he'll end up? Not on the Iron Throne but in a similar position to the show's Master of Coin?
@@elijahalbiston definitely something like that. I don't see him being Master of Coin, due to his obvious lack of knowledge on how debt works, but I can see him being in a similar high power position. Master of Laws, maybe? It's such a nothing position anyways.
@@John-kd2tc Same here. What's funny is Victarion was supposed to be killed in various drafts and GRRM decided to keep him alive each time. Would be awesome to see a character who GRRM was thinking about killing off a few times end up surviving until the end
I almost cry when he named the child of Lollys Tyrion. For all the betrayal and last minute switching of sides, he still have Tyrion in mind, thankful for all that he granted him
It's really a very questionable honor to have a child named after you that was potentially fathered by half of Kings Landing without consent and that you implied to plan on killing so your own sons will take its place.
@@jamesbrice3267 I think that even in the show they got that right. Bronn is smart and not afraid to play dirty, but the mountain is juat to strong. Tyrion had the luck of finding someone with a literal blood vendetta against him, and even he lost.
@@jamesbrice3267 Yea Bronn was smart enough to know when NOT to fight and walk away instead. A lot of men would let pride or greed get them killed but Bronn was just like, "I'ma walk away while I'm up chief, nothing personal."
Show Bronn has one liners and Jerome Flynn to make him more charming. Book Bronn is a literal gigachad, running through the Game of Thrones like it's a track meet, fucking with everyone in his path.
Of all the possible ways to kill him, challenging him to a duel? Just lol That's like trying to take out prime Mike Tyson by challenging him to a boxing match.
@@BlazingOwnagerI was speechless when the guy proposed an honourable duel while expecting a heartless cutthroat to follow the rules. An out of shape former tourney knight against a battlehardened killer. I really don't what was going on in Balman Byrch's head.
@@devvv4616 Sad part is, fiction wise, I think there's a really huge chance he would have won it. He sure wouldn't have made the Viper's mistake and started ranting.
Why wouldn't he have named him Tyrion, it was meeting Tyrion that brought Bronn to where he got. It was hanging around Tyrion that got him knighted and made commander of the Gold Cloaks. It was being champion for Tyrion in the Vale that caused Cersei to bride him not to be his champion against the mountain.
Lysa: "You don't fight with honor!" Bronn: "No. But he did." Probably one of my favorite show only lines, really emphasized the major theme that you can't win in this messed up world by being a goody two shoes. I also just love how, in a story filled with magic and dragons and grand politics, some lowborn cutthroat can have as big of an impact as any main character.
The idea of an omniscient magical hive-mind essentially naming someone the Secretary of the Treasury just because he really likes money is one of the funniest concepts the show ever came up with.
_How did freaking Cersei gave birth to THAT?_ And Myrcella! Like, did Joffrey got all the crazy from his mother and father combined?! _Cause the other two children are such a stark contrast!_
I always felt like Bronn is the "common sellsword" in Varys's riddle. He represents basically all the soldiers on all sides of all wars. Power is where he believes it is. He took Caitlyn Stark's offer. He served Tyrion Lannister. He took Tywin's Knighthood. He took Cersei's bribe. And who knows who else he may serve before the end. He had been avoiding playing the game of thrones and simply keeping his head down, serving powerful people to the best of his ability, and reaping the rewards from those associations, but now that he is a lord, he may begin overstepping and trying to raise his own station further. The answer to the riddle changes depending on circumstances, but given enough power, the answer is to kill all 3 great men and become the great man yourself.
Unlikely as in the books the Nights Watch oath appears to be magically binding with every deserter in the book series being killed by or with the help of someone from House Stark (except for Mance Raydar who may actually be working for Bloodraven and therefore still ultimately serving the Watch)
In a room sit three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man with his gold. Between them stands a sellsword, a little man of common birth and no great mind. Each of the great ones bids him slay the other two. ‘Do it,’ says the king, ‘for I am your lawful ruler.’ ‘Do it,’ says the priest, ‘for I command you in the names of the gods.’ ‘Do it,’ says the rich man, ‘and all this gold shall be yours.’ So tell me-who lives and who dies? Bron is the man with the sword.
The king. The rich man can only Offer gold, gold that will belong to him in any case after death. The holy man can only give promis of salvastion in the next live but that assumes he is truly in favor with his god and his god is real. The king can hrant titels and honours.
@@Andrewza1 The point is there is is no true answer. There a sellsword, that only fight for money. Titles and Honours can be taken away. While way less common, their are sellswords who are religious and have their faith over anything else. And there are those who want to use the job of a sellsword to become noticed and even rise up to the rank of nobility, to life a quite life.
This line is connected with the conversation they have a few chapters later Varys says: Power is a mumers's trick a shadow on the wall and sometimes a small man can cast a very large shadow
“A Wolf in sheep’s clothing” Wow! I never saw Bronn in that way but that’s REALLY accurate! His “wolfish” smile and his “sheep” sigil as Lord Stokeworth… GRR Martin is a genius in writing and so are you!
I got to defend my boy a little with the “Doesnt understand Debt” stuff. As a Sell Sword who deals with being paid and negotiating terms I am very sure he understands the concept of borrowing things. I always took the scene as Bron asking questions to make Tyron say out loud how silly it all is. You are borrowing money to but things you cant afford with a pinkie promise to pay it all back with extra money or else you get upset. Bron knows anyone will be hard pressed to take King’s Landing and that it is damn near impossible with an army supporting it. So I always felt he was saying “Fuck the iron bank. What they going to do?” Bc Bron believes Might Makes Right.
When the writers followed the books (and had books to follow), they were fine. Once they deviated or got ahead of the source material, they were in trouble. The best improvement the show made were the scenes with Tywin and Arya. Aside from that, too many shortcuts, omitted characters, and composite characters.
@michaelbayer5094 grrm even said he liked some things they did in the show better. And I think he even said he'd change those characters to match. Until yeah, they ran out of materiel
My fav part is that Bronn lived because when GRRM wanted to kill one of the sellsword and couldn't decide between Bronn and Chiggen,, he flipped a coin to decide for him. And that's Bronn's character at whole...
I like to think that lolys baseborn kid to bron will be just as much of a rugrat to him as his own eventual kid with lolys. Him not having any other lords preconceptious biases probably means that he'll treat whatever progeny he might have with lolys no different than her bastard.
Bronn will probably kill the kid or lolys hes a psychopath But i do like to imagine despite his cutthroat nature hes nice to lolys and raises the boy as his own
@@okloshbrokla8154Nah, he doesn't need to kill her, all the contrary if she's alive he has more legitimacy. And she being an airhead means he can do whatever he wants as long it doesn't goes directly against major lords (and even so he still named the child Tiryon).
@@fran3ro Just wanna add to what you said... He doesn't need to kill the kid either. That kid is bastard so unlike Bronn's own kids lil Tyrion won't have any legitimate claims to whatever his step-dad manages to get from The Game. Furthermore naming the child Tyrion suggests that Bronn will take care of the boy. I can see him training lil Tyrion to be a very deadly knight that eventualy ends up as ser Tyrion Tanner member of the Kingsguard.(which would ensure the "no legitimate claim" even better)
Show Bronn is definitely a fun character, but the book version is just such fucker. One of my favourite scenes with him, that illustrates his true colours is this one: After Ned and Robert are dead Cersei is sending out goldcloaks to murder Robert's bastards, and Tyrion ends up dealing with them pretty harshly and seems genuinely horrified at their actions, and he asks Bronn "Would you do that? Rip a child from it's mothers breast and kill it without question?" and Bronn pauses for a bit and says "Without question? no. I'd ask how much (will you pay me for it)" I'm paraphrasing the exchange but you get the idea.
@@nunyabiznes33they made show Ellaria the antithesis of her book character. When I first read about the ASOIAF version, I refused to believe they were meant to be the same person.
6:31 that has to be my favorite part of the video which fantasy haven being like “he will surly be given the twin that Arya depopulated” then when Tyrion said High Garden he was like “wait what, wtf?” That made me spit out my drink and have a good laugh hence he played the “wait wait wait wait” clip as well 😂🤣😂🤣😂
True ending: "There's nothing in the world more powerful than a good story. Nothing can stop it. No enemy can defeat it. And who has a better story than Bronn the Sellsword?"
Not gonna lie, if he ends the series not only alive, but in a much better standing then he already was by Book 5, with Lollys and little Tyrion all alive with him, *HIS would be the story of ages!* ✋️😌👌
I feel Bronn in the show aligned really well with the Bronn in the books up till the third season. Then he fell into the "protagonist hole" we later found Tyrion in, where any darkness and cruelty that should have been shown was neglected for instead being clever and vaguely charming.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The girl I was going to marry left me and I still haven't found the will to live, but your videos are making me laugh for the first time in weeks, and it means more than you can imagine. When you said "sub-standard cat" I had to pause for a full minute. Cheers mate
your videos and the gm guy one are some of the best asoiaf content in years, we really needed some breath of fresh air in the community, after many creators left and scandals like that david lightbringer one got caught with old soc media posts lusting for book dany and book lyanna (both 14) and ignoring the community bad apples many ran out of insight to give, your videos are shorter yet better edited and focused than the alt shift guy too. Tho I like his Jon video.
I think I prefer show Bronn because: 1)We get more of him 2) He has pulled off some interesting actions (like the Trial by Combat) 3) The actor is charming, even when he doing morally grey things and 4) I like his singing. But I must say, Book Bronn has his own charm, after all. Like naming the kid Tyrion was a brilliant and hilarious move.
The trial by combat is pretty much straight from the books. Book Bronn isn't as charming because he's meant as a monster. Not an anti-hero, or a grey character but a pitch black murderer.
@@Evilanious while true, it's one thing to read the trial by combat and it's a completely different thing to SEE it. They hit a bit differently. Show Bronn is charming because the actor they hired is charming, even when he's doing downright terrible things. I get the point of book Bronn. That wasn't the question. The question asked was which do you prefer. So I answered and gave a bit of reasoning why.
Both Bronn's are like how one would play Skyrim as a common sell sword. Just going from quest to quest trying to get more pay and a better station and being wild in combat situations.
Your Highgarden joke make me wonder if giving Broom the twins will not in fact be something that happens in the book. It double a castles(the twins are two castles), the Frey are so hated no one is gonna object(except any fry that might still be alive but they don't matter), and it suite him as a sell sword extorting i mean extracting toll from passers.
Ive always subscribed to the idea thst Bronn really did just name the bastard Tyrion as mark of respect, but then completely took advantage of cersei's scheme to cement his control of the stokeworth holding. Bronn isnt smart enough for grand plans or quick enough to act first, but he always ends up figuring out how to use opportunity. He truly is the wolf in sheeps clothing.
Lol I forgot about Tyrion’s doubling counter offer. I can totally see bronn ending up at the twins afterwards. He would make a good toll booth manager.
When I finally realized that the Jerome Flynn who played Bronn is the same Jerome Flynn from the singing duo that covered old standards, Robson and Jerome, I was stunned.
Alright fine, I'll read the books. You win Fantasy Haven. I'm going to go find the first edition of the first novel and see where this dank character arc goes.
Fantastic, fast paced animations this video, for the record. Just wanted to shout out that this video has a lot of moving stuff and you don’t linger on any frame for too long because there’s so much to recap, but for such cartoony character models the details of them, the timing of the expressions and stuff perfectly with the narration, as well as the impressive overall consistency, quality of any environments you have to sketch, and comedic pacing of your animations was really firing on all pistons this video 😂❤😊👍✨
What's interesting is Bronn frequently brings-up Tyrion saying any price, he'll double it, but that's not true, even in the show. If you rewatch season 1, Tyrion simply says "'[whatever price someone offers Bronn] I'll beat it"
The actor that played Bronn really brought the character to life. He god damn embodied that character. Unfortunately his story in the show got stupid. I want to say that I prefer how the show portrays Bronn but I don't prefer what the show DOES with Bronn. Of course that's a given. Because I love how the show portrays every character (euron withstanding), but I hate what they do with all those characters.
Bronn is a upjump sell sword. Not an insult just a fact. And he is doing a great job at building his coppers and army Show bronn had issues as him and cerise had....issues to say the least so they couldn't be near each other. Book version fights dirty. Takes eveey opportunity he can get and is working it like marrying the noble woman and getting soldiers to build his group. I doubt he cares for tyrion and named the child as an insult but cersie missed it and if Tyrion comes back he may switch sides onky because he follows the gold
Yeah, apparently it was in the contract that Jerome and Lena can't be in the same scene together, hence Bronn going out for a walk during the Dragonpit meeting.
I thought for sure if anywhere Bronn would be given The Twins in the show. It makes sense to me with Bronn being able to enjoy getting the toll people need to make the crossing between the North and Riverlands and Bronn can get his fingers in every lucrative racket available
I still love the theory hes the last of House Reyne, but grew up not knowing this. It would be hilariously Ironic, that the very house Tywin made an example of, ended up saving his bloodline on multiple occasions
I totally forgot about Maegor the Third (a classic Mace the Ace moment) and now I see that there is a whole Wiki page about this fact which is wild. But to be honest, I always liked the speech Tywin gives to Tommen and the story about Orys the First just sounds cool. Lorewise it isn't far of a stretch to assume that he was a Storm King from before the Conquest but otherwise I am the last one to defend D&Ds later writing choices.
I do vaguely recall a Storm King during the Andal Invasions, who formed a so called Weirwood Alliance with the Children of the Forest, and was murdered by his brother who joined the andal faith and turned against the children. That guy might have been an Orys, but I’m not sure. Was a pretty just guy though, to ally with a non-human species rather then convert & reap the benefits. And he was murdered by hid own brother. Other then that; yeah duck D&D. Never in all 7 hells would anyone name their kid Maegor after King Maegor ruled his cruel reign
Bronn, the man who didnt know how Simple Interest worked for most of his life becomes Master of Coin. Gods be good how this show lasted so long with those two doofuses is a mystery for the ages
She had seen Bronn fight on the high road; it was no accident that he had survived the journey while other men had died. He moved like a panther, and that ugly sword of his seemed a part of his arm.[4] -thoughts of Catelyn Stark
Bronn of the books was so much better,even if we haven't seen much past "Feast". The part with Cersei sending Ser Balman after him, only for Balman to challenge him and for Bronn to torture him before overthrowing Falyse was just epic. Show version just had him tagging along with Jaime to try to make him seem relevant, even though his only point was to make quips and quotable moment(and disappear whenever his ex Lena Headey was in a shot.)
I love him in the show but was always confused about the sort of things he was always asking for… Highgarden, for instance, just seemed an insane request. He was a single sell-sword, not some noble with an army and a plausible claim.
It also makes me wonder, would he even want such a massive responsibility? Like, being a knight, cool. Owning a castle, sick. Having to regulate the entire economy of Westeros? Would he even say yes to that? He is ambitious and an opportunist but he doesn't seem the kind to just take a job he is wildly unqualified for simply because it's a high stature position.
I’m listening to read through of A Clash of Kings and the reader does voices/accents for the characters and his Bronn voice is a Texan Accent and honestly I can totally see it. Bronn would be a great cowboy. 👍 Love Bronn & Tyrian.
Hail my great Lord Haven! Awesome videos as always the animation and drawing, u have really gotten good at that plz dont stop continuing advancing your craft, the animation was moving a bit to quick at times just thought u should know not hating.
What I love about the Trial by Combat at the Eryie is while everyone denounces Bronn as dishonorable, the Lords are the ones giving Ser Vardys advice on Bronn’s movements and combat. Bronn is relying on his wits and skill alone.
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"The Real Euron" would be sick as the next installment in this series.
Not sure if there’s enough book content, but I cast my vote for Margaery.
Yes! You gotta do the real Tywin next!
We must have Rennifer Longwaters!
My favorite thing he does in the books is knighting four random sellswords and absorbing them into his household in Feast, it's incredibly funny and in character for him to take advantage of the fact that knights can make new knights for pretty much no reason.
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Hey it's Quinn!
@elijahalbiston3105 of course it's quinn, he has to check out on his bf...f
@@giacomoromano8842 wait what
That's hilarious lmfao
Bronn is actually playing Crusader King in a passive way while everyone else is playing the game of thrones.
My man is on Observer Mode
If the Reyne theory is true. Then Bronn must be injoining the current version of the mod which let's you play as Roger Reyne. The only other person that might like it more is Catelyn Stark, simply cus the Freys and Lannisters are allied in the mod and it let's her kill Walder and Tywin in one war.
Reminds me of how I play CK2
"Hmm I have no sons but I have all these wives and lands... uh... you there how would you like three duchies, my niece, becoming my regent, and a place on my council?"
Bronn is playing Mount and Blade while everyone else plays Crusader Kings
The fact that they make him master of coin in the show, despite him not even understanding the concept of dept and borrowing money, is mind-numbing.
Almost as messed up as naming the man with less story than almost anyone, a guy who said he wanted no throne, the King. Bran the Broken is the real villain fr.
@@elijahalbistonno I think Bronn is far worse
D and D kinda forgot about that
They kinda forgot about it.
@@elijahalbistonBran becoming king would at least be a possibility in the books (If they ever get finished) and might even make Sense with the right setup.
It could have even have sense in the show with one more season.
But Bronn as master of coin ? Absolute bullshit. Minor Lord should be the height of his achievement If he doesn't get assassinated for causing too much trouble.
I think the biggest part if Bronn's book character is how little he asks for. He takes everything offered, but never once does he try playing the game. For as cut throat as he is, he also is just good at his job.
Tyrion offers gold and power, and he takes it. Tywin gives him knighthood. He takes it. Lolles needs to be married. He marries her.
Just by being around the winning side and not overstepping, other people are playing the game and dying around him.
He just does what other people think themselves above. He isn't held down by pride or honor. When other lords refused to marry Lolles, he did. He is such a shock to the system that he will just walk several lordships
The irony is he is probably the most honorable character in the series. If he says he'll do something he'll do it without any hidden agenda. As long as you keep to the terms and pay him what's owed he will keep his word. Plus you always know where he stands, while others are pretending to be loyal for loyalty sake Bronn makes it known he is only loyal to whoever is paying him currently
He doesn’t wanna be the tallest prettiest flower. He just wants to stay in the garden…
@@emanuelmartinez7267An honorable character that would murder a baby if paid properly. Unless thats just a show thing.
@@alexmartin3143 well that's a morality thing then an honor thing. Nothing in the show or books suggests that if he were to be paid to escort the baby to a different town that he'd take money from a 3rd party to kill the baby instead..... Now if that 3rd party approaches him AFTER he delivered the baby and fulfilled his current contract that's a completely different story lol
Same reasons I like the Boltons so much. They know the score, and they do not care for the rules.
I really like The Theory that Bronn will end every ASoIaF book in a better position than he was in the last book. Bronn being one of the surviving characters is just a hilarious idea for someone who started as a pretty minor character.
The two characters I want to see keep going till the end of the books, beating all odds are Bronn and Victarian.
That would be typical GRRM irony for you, the guy who had nothing going for him in the beginning ends up getting everything everyone else had. Where do you think he'll end up? Not on the Iron Throne but in a similar position to the show's Master of Coin?
@@elijahalbiston definitely something like that. I don't see him being Master of Coin, due to his obvious lack of knowledge on how debt works, but I can see him being in a similar high power position. Master of Laws, maybe? It's such a nothing position anyways.
Honestly if Bronn lives he will probably be the most powerful man in the Crownlands.
@@John-kd2tc Same here. What's funny is Victarion was supposed to be killed in various drafts and GRRM decided to keep him alive each time. Would be awesome to see a character who GRRM was thinking about killing off a few times end up surviving until the end
I almost cry when he named the child of Lollys Tyrion. For all the betrayal and last minute switching of sides, he still have Tyrion in mind, thankful for all that he granted him
It's really a very questionable honor to have a child named after you that was potentially fathered by half of Kings Landing without consent and that you implied to plan on killing so your own sons will take its place.
I think Bronn would have stood up for Tyrion if his opponent had been anyone but the Mountain.
Or maybe he just really wanted to piss off Cercei.
@@jamesbrice3267 I think that even in the show they got that right. Bronn is smart and not afraid to play dirty, but the mountain is juat to strong. Tyrion had the luck of finding someone with a literal blood vendetta against him, and even he lost.
@@jamesbrice3267 Yea Bronn was smart enough to know when NOT to fight and walk away instead. A lot of men would let pride or greed get them killed but Bronn was just like, "I'ma walk away while I'm up chief, nothing personal."
Show Bronn has one liners and Jerome Flynn to make him more charming.
Book Bronn is a literal gigachad, running through the Game of Thrones like it's a track meet, fucking with everyone in his path.
Heh
Book Bronn sounds like an actual player in a single player story game
Cersei's atempt to kill Bronn is one of the acts of biggest cartoonish incompetence for everyone that took part in the atempt.
She's like kill that dude but makes it discrete.
The woman's husband: I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL GOOD SIR
Of all the possible ways to kill him, challenging him to a duel? Just lol
That's like trying to take out prime Mike Tyson by challenging him to a boxing match.
@@BlazingOwnagerI was speechless when the guy proposed an honourable duel while expecting a heartless cutthroat to follow the rules. An out of shape former tourney knight against a battlehardened killer. I really don't what was going on in Balman Byrch's head.
All the effort for him to not represent Tyrion as a champion, cos he's so fking good at it loll
@@devvv4616 Sad part is, fiction wise, I think there's a really huge chance he would have won it. He sure wouldn't have made the Viper's mistake and started ranting.
Book Bron always! Naming Lollys's son Tyrion was just such a Chad thing to do😂😂😂
Bronn’s story in AFFC is one of my favorite story arcs ever, and it’s only made better by the fact that it’s entirely off page
Bronn is the goat
@@jj947 Yeah ASOIAF has some of the best* story development done through gossip.
Fucking legend
Why wouldn't he have named him Tyrion, it was meeting Tyrion that brought Bronn to where he got. It was hanging around Tyrion that got him knighted and made commander of the Gold Cloaks. It was being champion for Tyrion in the Vale that caused Cersei to bride him not to be his champion against the mountain.
Lysa: "You don't fight with honor!"
Bronn: "No. But he did."
Probably one of my favorite show only lines, really emphasized the major theme that you can't win in this messed up world by being a goody two shoes. I also just love how, in a story filled with magic and dragons and grand politics, some lowborn cutthroat can have as big of an impact as any main character.
But behaving like some bandit won't do you any favors either. Think Tywin Lannister.
@@josephbulkin9222Tywin Lannister *is* “some bandit.”
Only a bandit would massacre thousands at a wedding under the protection of guest right.@@Longshanks1690
Yes but come on, isnt it just obvious? Its kinda corny. The show always try to explain obvious things and it takes away from subtext
it's a bad line because the whole point of a deathmatch is to fight to the death, Bronn fought "with honor" the whole time
The idea of an omniscient magical hive-mind essentially naming someone the Secretary of the Treasury just because he really likes money is one of the funniest concepts the show ever came up with.
D&D were not cooking with that one. They were ordering in.
“A substandard cat” killed me. 🤣
He worked for one. In the Vale.
The bad POOHsay😭
That was probably the worst line uttered in the show.
I really wish you’d mentioned that Tommen offered to send baby Tyrion a kitten. One of the funniest and most innocent lines in the whole series.
Aw
Tommen has the purest heart!
_How did freaking Cersei gave birth to THAT?_ And Myrcella! Like, did Joffrey got all the crazy from his mother and father combined?! _Cause the other two children are such a stark contrast!_
@@MrDibara They're more like a Lannister contrast than a Stark one.
@@GrumpyLoco6 _Eyyyy~._ 😉
I always felt like Bronn is the "common sellsword" in Varys's riddle.
He represents basically all the soldiers on all sides of all wars. Power is where he believes it is. He took Caitlyn Stark's offer. He served Tyrion Lannister. He took Tywin's Knighthood. He took Cersei's bribe. And who knows who else he may serve before the end. He had been avoiding playing the game of thrones and simply keeping his head down, serving powerful people to the best of his ability, and reaping the rewards from those associations, but now that he is a lord, he may begin overstepping and trying to raise his own station further.
The answer to the riddle changes depending on circumstances, but given enough power, the answer is to kill all 3 great men and become the great man yourself.
YESSSSSSSSS!!! 😮
That was such a smart conclusion
I'm convinced Bronn is a Night's Watch deserter who got REALLY lucky.
Bronn's probably not even his real name
@@prointernetuser Bronn is Benjen confirmed.
Is his real name The Fucking Lizard King?
Unlikely as in the books the Nights Watch oath appears to be magically binding with every deserter in the book series being killed by or with the help of someone from House Stark (except for Mance Raydar who may actually be working for Bloodraven and therefore still ultimately serving the Watch)
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That's BS.
It's a normal oath and there is no hint for anything you claim.
In a room sit three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man with his gold. Between them stands a sellsword, a little man of common birth and no great mind. Each of the great ones bids him slay the other two. ‘Do it,’ says the king, ‘for I am your lawful ruler.’ ‘Do it,’ says the priest, ‘for I command you in the names of the gods.’ ‘Do it,’ says the rich man, ‘and all this gold shall be yours.’ So tell me-who lives and who dies?
Bron is the man with the sword.
The king. The rich man can only Offer gold, gold that will belong to him in any case after death. The holy man can only give promis of salvastion in the next live but that assumes he is truly in favor with his god and his god is real. The king can hrant titels and honours.
@@Andrewza1 Which can be later taken away really easily
@@Andrewza1 The point is there is is no true answer. There a sellsword, that only fight for money. Titles and Honours can be taken away. While way less common, their are sellswords who are religious and have their faith over anything else. And there are those who want to use the job of a sellsword to become noticed and even rise up to the rank of nobility, to life a quite life.
And he's the only one to live.
This line is connected with the conversation they have a few chapters later
Varys says:
Power is a mumers's trick a shadow on the wall and sometimes a small man can cast a very large shadow
“A Wolf in sheep’s clothing”
Wow! I never saw Bronn in that way but that’s REALLY accurate!
His “wolfish” smile and his “sheep” sigil as Lord Stokeworth… GRR Martin is a genius in writing and so are you!
Oh my god
2:04 Haven drinking Lysa milk 💀
Thanks for pointing it out, i gonna remove my eyes now.
Nice!
I hate u for this
That 'a wolf in sheep's clothing' line went hard.
More like a wolf in wolf's clothing. Bronn is a freaking badass and with all his accomplishments, he would surely be seen as such too in-universe
It works because he is said to have a wolfish grin and literally is the head of house stokeworth whose sigil is a sheep
Bronn is one of my favorite characters in ASOIAF, I love to see this sellsword rise to a lord pretty sick hopefully he survives.
Here's to Bronn, Lollys, little Tyrion and all their future children surviving to the end of the series. 🍻
I got to defend my boy a little with the “Doesnt understand Debt” stuff. As a Sell Sword who deals with being paid and negotiating terms I am very sure he understands the concept of borrowing things. I always took the scene as Bron asking questions to make Tyron say out loud how silly it all is. You are borrowing money to but things you cant afford with a pinkie promise to pay it all back with extra money or else you get upset. Bron knows anyone will be hard pressed to take King’s Landing and that it is damn near impossible with an army supporting it. So I always felt he was saying “Fuck the iron bank. What they going to do?” Bc Bron believes Might Makes Right.
Bronn naming Lollys's bastard after Tyrion just to fuck with Cersei is still funny, even after all these years.
Jerome Flynn was excellent but Bronn was one of many, many characters who the writers clearly didn't know what to do with.
When the writers followed the books (and had books to follow), they were fine. Once they deviated or got ahead of the source material, they were in trouble. The best improvement the show made were the scenes with Tywin and Arya. Aside from that, too many shortcuts, omitted characters, and composite characters.
@michaelbayer5094 grrm even said he liked some things they did in the show better. And I think he even said he'd change those characters to match. Until yeah, they ran out of materiel
"substandard cat" 😂
If I wasn't already subscribed, that line would be the reason to hit the button lol
Im def a book Bronn guy, but I do love the actor. He was one of many great performers chosen in the show!
Also Egan V Bronn, such a damn good fight. My boi nearly did him in too in spite of his age.
My fav part is that Bronn lived because when GRRM wanted to kill one of the sellsword and couldn't decide between Bronn and Chiggen,, he flipped a coin to decide for him. And that's Bronn's character at whole...
the the burning green chain sigil goes HARD! probably one of the best in the series.
I like to think that lolys baseborn kid to bron will be just as much of a rugrat to him as his own eventual kid with lolys. Him not having any other lords preconceptious biases probably means that he'll treat whatever progeny he might have with lolys no different than her bastard.
Bronn will probably kill the kid or lolys hes a psychopath
But i do like to imagine despite his cutthroat nature hes nice to lolys and raises the boy as his own
@@okloshbrokla8154Nah, he doesn't need to kill her, all the contrary if she's alive he has more legitimacy. And she being an airhead means he can do whatever he wants as long it doesn't goes directly against major lords (and even so he still named the child Tiryon).
@@fran3ro Just wanna add to what you said... He doesn't need to kill the kid either. That kid is bastard so unlike Bronn's own kids lil Tyrion won't have any legitimate claims to whatever his step-dad manages to get from The Game. Furthermore naming the child Tyrion suggests that Bronn will take care of the boy. I can see him training lil Tyrion to be a very deadly knight that eventualy ends up as ser Tyrion Tanner member of the Kingsguard.(which would ensure the "no legitimate claim" even better)
@@stopkins222Yes, I was going to add that too, but I decided not to for some reason haha.
Frankly , I kind of hope Bronn ends up truly falling in love with Lollys .Would be really cute and a welcomed surprise for such a ruthless mercenary .
Lols he'll probably wait until his first trueborn son by her to seal his claim to her lands then upgrade
Craven eh?
That "Wolf in sheep clothing" at the end was really good bro
Show Bronn is definitely a fun character, but the book version is just such fucker. One of my favourite scenes with him, that illustrates his true colours is this one:
After Ned and Robert are dead Cersei is sending out goldcloaks to murder Robert's bastards, and Tyrion ends up dealing with them pretty harshly and seems genuinely horrified at their actions, and he asks Bronn "Would you do that? Rip a child from it's mothers breast and kill it without question?" and Bronn pauses for a bit and says "Without question? no. I'd ask how much (will you pay me for it)"
I'm paraphrasing the exchange but you get the idea.
Show Bronn was fun at first but the writers really went overboard in trying to him more relevant that it just got ridiculous
They did the same to Ellaria coz of how good Indira Varma was and they ended up butchering the character.
@@nunyabiznes33they made show Ellaria the antithesis of her book character. When I first read about the ASOIAF version, I refused to believe they were meant to be the same person.
I actually wished they used him more I love his character and interactions with Jaime and Tyrion. He’s the man
Couldn't disagree more
6:31 that has to be my favorite part of the video which fantasy haven being like “he will surly be given the twin that Arya depopulated” then when Tyrion said High Garden he was like “wait what, wtf?” That made me spit out my drink and have a good laugh hence he played the “wait wait wait wait” clip as well 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Brings new meaning to the story Varys tells Tyrion. The one about the three powerful men, and the sellsword.
True ending: "There's nothing in the world more powerful than a good story. Nothing can stop it. No enemy can defeat it. And who has a better story than Bronn the Sellsword?"
Not gonna lie, if he ends the series not only alive, but in a much better standing then he already was by Book 5, with Lollys and little Tyrion all alive with him, *HIS would be the story of ages!* ✋️😌👌
Babe wake up new Fantasy Haven just dropped
I feel Bronn in the show aligned really well with the Bronn in the books up till the third season. Then he fell into the "protagonist hole" we later found Tyrion in, where any darkness and cruelty that should have been shown was neglected for instead being clever and vaguely charming.
Substandard cat will never stop being funny
Bronn is one of my favorites. Smart, sassy, honest, and deadly.
Ah yes, the substandard cat. We all love those. We strive to acquire those.
Indeed LMFAO
It’s really visible how the quality of videos improves every time. Great animations and background!!
Thanks!
You want the good writing but you crave the substandard cat. 🤣
"Substandard cat" has me weak 😭😭
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The girl I was going to marry left me and I still haven't found the will to live, but your videos are making me laugh for the first time in weeks, and it means more than you can imagine. When you said "sub-standard cat" I had to pause for a full minute. Cheers mate
Thanks very much :D I'm glad you enjoy my stuff. Stay strong mate, it always gets better. Take care
Do you have social media,we can chat mate
your videos and the gm guy one are some of the best asoiaf content in years, we really needed some breath of fresh air in the community, after many creators left and scandals like that david lightbringer one got caught with old soc media posts lusting for book dany and book lyanna (both 14) and ignoring the community bad apples many ran out of insight to give, your videos are shorter yet better edited and focused than the alt shift guy too. Tho I like his Jon video.
Thanks :)
Woah woah david lightbringer did what?! This i did not know
I think I prefer show Bronn because: 1)We get more of him 2) He has pulled off some interesting actions (like the Trial by Combat) 3) The actor is charming, even when he doing morally grey things and 4) I like his singing.
But I must say, Book Bronn has his own charm, after all. Like naming the kid Tyrion was a brilliant and hilarious move.
The trial by combat is pretty much straight from the books.
Book Bronn isn't as charming because he's meant as a monster. Not an anti-hero, or a grey character but a pitch black murderer.
@@Evilanious while true, it's one thing to read the trial by combat and it's a completely different thing to SEE it. They hit a bit differently.
Show Bronn is charming because the actor they hired is charming, even when he's doing downright terrible things.
I get the point of book Bronn. That wasn't the question. The question asked was which do you prefer. So I answered and gave a bit of reasoning why.
Both Bronn's are like how one would play Skyrim as a common sell sword. Just going from quest to quest trying to get more pay and a better station and being wild in combat situations.
Ooh I'm loving these videos. This is such an unique niche mix of animation and essay type writing.
Good line with the whole wolf in sheep’s clothing as he’s wearing the Stokeworth sigil
I never thought about this but Bronn becoming a key crownsland lord might just be my favorite potential storyline now
Thanks for that also he is very underrated for his Comic genius. The Guy consistently cracks me up. Keep the vids rolling. Love your work.
Your Highgarden joke make me wonder if giving Broom the twins will not in fact be something that happens in the book. It double a castles(the twins are two castles), the Frey are so hated no one is gonna object(except any fry that might still be alive but they don't matter), and it suite him as a sell sword extorting i mean extracting toll from passers.
YOOOO!! 🤩 That extorting-- AHEM! _"extracting toll"_ would fit do much with Bronn! _Man, little Tyrion finna grow into one hell of a scammer!_ 🤣
Plus, the Freys are definitely gonna have a civil war the moment Walder dies.
An excellent script, cheeky and eye catching artwork, and a sultry voice narrating it all 😏 ALL HAIL FANTASY HAVEN
Thanks!
OMG, I didn't know I needed this in my life! ty for the content.
0:02 i thought tyrion was making ":3"
Ive always subscribed to the idea thst Bronn really did just name the bastard Tyrion as mark of respect, but then completely took advantage of cersei's scheme to cement his control of the stokeworth holding. Bronn isnt smart enough for grand plans or quick enough to act first, but he always ends up figuring out how to use opportunity. He truly is the wolf in sheeps clothing.
Lol I forgot about Tyrion’s doubling counter offer. I can totally see bronn ending up at the twins afterwards. He would make a good toll booth manager.
“Substandard cat”
4:45
"...and Cersei is a bit of an idiot."
Ha, the understatement of the century 😂
3:20 i presume that this chain was inspired by a chain that was used to keep ships out of the golden horn during the siege of constantinople
When I finally realized that the Jerome Flynn who played Bronn is the same Jerome Flynn from the singing duo that covered old standards, Robson and Jerome, I was stunned.
Alright fine, I'll read the books. You win Fantasy Haven. I'm going to go find the first edition of the first novel and see where this dank character arc goes.
Fantastic, fast paced animations this video, for the record. Just wanted to shout out that this video has a lot of moving stuff and you don’t linger on any frame for too long because there’s so much to recap, but for such cartoony character models the details of them, the timing of the expressions and stuff perfectly with the narration, as well as the impressive overall consistency, quality of any environments you have to sketch, and comedic pacing of your animations was really firing on all pistons this video 😂❤😊👍✨
One battle feat to note, In the battle of the greek fork bronn fought off 3 soldiers at the same time.
What's interesting is Bronn frequently brings-up Tyrion saying any price, he'll double it, but that's not true, even in the show. If you rewatch season 1, Tyrion simply says "'[whatever price someone offers Bronn] I'll beat it"
The actor that played Bronn really brought the character to life. He god damn embodied that character. Unfortunately his story in the show got stupid. I want to say that I prefer how the show portrays Bronn but I don't prefer what the show DOES with Bronn. Of course that's a given. Because I love how the show portrays every character (euron withstanding), but I hate what they do with all those characters.
Totally agree
5:30 "substandard cat" had me rolling. your videos are hilarious
Its actually so painful how they literally line up THE TWINS being empty, use the line "whats double a castle" and then give him fucking highgarden
Book Bronn for sure, I find his story far more interesting. Thanks for the great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bronn is a upjump sell sword. Not an insult just a fact. And he is doing a great job at building his coppers and army
Show bronn had issues as him and cerise had....issues to say the least so they couldn't be near each other.
Book version fights dirty. Takes eveey opportunity he can get and is working it like marrying the noble woman and getting soldiers to build his group. I doubt he cares for tyrion and named the child as an insult but cersie missed it and if Tyrion comes back he may switch sides onky because he follows the gold
Yeah, apparently it was in the contract that Jerome and Lena can't be in the same scene together, hence Bronn going out for a walk during the Dragonpit meeting.
@@nunyabiznes33 it's funny considering he is close to Tyrion and Jaime aka her brothers
I thought for sure if anywhere Bronn would be given The Twins in the show. It makes sense to me with Bronn being able to enjoy getting the toll people need to make the crossing between the North and Riverlands and Bronn can get his fingers in every lucrative racket available
Glad someone made a dedicated Bronn video!!! 👏
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I still love the theory hes the last of House Reyne, but grew up not knowing this. It would be hilariously Ironic, that the very house Tywin made an example of, ended up saving his bloodline on multiple occasions
Is there any basis for this theory other than it’d be cool?
Incredible character. Amazing acting in the series too. What a man!
I always wanted a spin-off of Bronn prior to GOF. It would be awesome!
I totally forgot about Maegor the Third (a classic Mace the Ace moment) and now I see that there is a whole Wiki page about this fact which is wild. But to be honest, I always liked the speech Tywin gives to Tommen and the story about Orys the First just sounds cool. Lorewise it isn't far of a stretch to assume that he was a Storm King from before the Conquest but otherwise I am the last one to defend D&Ds later writing choices.
I do vaguely recall a Storm King during the Andal Invasions, who formed a so called Weirwood Alliance with the Children of the Forest, and was murdered by his brother who joined the andal faith and turned against the children.
That guy might have been an Orys, but I’m not sure. Was a pretty just guy though, to ally with a non-human species rather then convert & reap the benefits. And he was murdered by hid own brother.
Other then that; yeah duck D&D. Never in all 7 hells would anyone name their kid Maegor after King Maegor ruled his cruel reign
5:22 is beyond hilarious 😂
Bronn, the man who didnt know how Simple Interest worked for most of his life becomes Master of Coin. Gods be good how this show lasted so long with those two doofuses is a mystery for the ages
She had seen Bronn fight on the high road; it was no accident that he had survived the journey while other men had died. He moved like a panther, and that ugly sword of his seemed a part of his arm.[4]
-thoughts of Catelyn Stark
" Where'd yah learn that? Fancy Lad School? " 😂
"The winds of winter are approaching" Yeah, I don't think they are.
"What you need is a substandard cat" 😅
Imo the show Bronn is really entertaining to watch because the actor playing him just has excellent delivery on all the slick jokes
Ma king has returned 🎉🙏👑
Bronn of the books was so much better,even if we haven't seen much past "Feast". The part with Cersei sending Ser Balman after him, only for Balman to challenge him and for Bronn to torture him before overthrowing Falyse was just epic. Show version just had him tagging along with Jaime to try to make him seem relevant, even though his only point was to make quips and quotable moment(and disappear whenever his ex Lena Headey was in a shot.)
"Wolf in sheeps clothing"
Panther would fit better as Bronn is said to be cat-like in his way of movement. Also the Stokeworth Sigil being a sheep.
I love him in the show but was always confused about the sort of things he was always asking for… Highgarden, for instance, just seemed an insane request. He was a single sell-sword, not some noble with an army and a plausible claim.
It also makes me wonder, would he even want such a massive responsibility?
Like, being a knight, cool. Owning a castle, sick. Having to regulate the entire economy of Westeros? Would he even say yes to that? He is ambitious and an opportunist but he doesn't seem the kind to just take a job he is wildly unqualified for simply because it's a high stature position.
I hope he lives throughout the entire story. I like the idea of us seeing the birth of a new great house!
Bronn is one of my favorite characters. Truly underrated.
Show and Book version of Bronn are my two favorites.
Wow what happened. This really blew up. good for you
Bronns out here being an RPG protagonist
Yo this is Westerling from Baseborn; really admire you.
I like when a video starts "In the first 4 seasons."
"Substandard cat" 😂
I like that he didn’t train Jamie in the books.
When is ck3 game of thrones going to be released
I’m listening to read through of A Clash of Kings and the reader does voices/accents for the characters and his Bronn voice is a Texan Accent and honestly I can totally see it. Bronn would be a great cowboy. 👍 Love Bronn & Tyrian.
Hail my great Lord Haven! Awesome videos as always the animation and drawing, u have really gotten good at that plz dont stop continuing advancing your craft, the animation was moving a bit to quick at times just thought u should know not hating.
What I love about the Trial by Combat at the Eryie is while everyone denounces Bronn as dishonorable, the Lords are the ones giving Ser Vardys advice on Bronn’s movements and combat. Bronn is relying on his wits and skill alone.