Split Second Rob Weller Pilot - Master Quality
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Here is an attempt to revive the classic Split Second game show which were hosted by the great Tom Kennedy & Monty Hall. This time, Rob Weller takes the podium. Here is a master quality copy of this rare pilot.
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Robb Weller was a better host on this version of Spilt Second than what he did on Win, Lose, or Draw. It was disastrous
My thinking is for Robb: Win lose or draw was a learning experience. Some hosts don't necessarily do great on their first show and get better after that.
Also seemed to do better on Hollywood Teasers and the Blackout pilot (which was actually three years before WLoD). I think Robb Weller just had too much of serious hosting style compared to Bert Convy (or a Peter Marshall, Tom Kennedy, John Davidson, Gene Rayburn, Tom Bergeron or Bob Eubanks or even Bob Barker).
@marcpower4167 same with Jim Caldwell and "Tic Tac Dough" (which he wasn't that bad to begin with and no Wink, but got even better and more relaxed after the first part of the season).
This should've been picked up. Very faithful to the original.
What was the original gameshow called? Can I find it on UA-cam?
if this was a real game show then it should be called the all new split second
@@40bpaula It was also called Split Second. It was hosted by Tom Kennedy in 1975 or so. I know this because I caught it on TV back then, and my mother came in the room and said "It's the car game!" because she wasn't sure what it was, and she caught the bonus round where they display 5 cars and you put a key in one to see if it starts.
I met Robb Weller in 1981 because I was on a documentary that aired in Chicago, IL called "Young Giants" about gifted kids. When he came to my house for the taping, I recognized him from seeing him on AM Chicago. I did not know until the UA-cam days that he hosted Win Lose or Draw, and it's interesting that he did this Split Second pilot.
I've wanted to see this for ages, thanks so much for posting it! Split Second really is a format that has never gotten its due; the best and longest running version has been largely lost to time since it was wiped, and this didn't sell, so the only version available is the fine-but-not-great Hall version. But it's an incredibly solid quiz format and I think it deserves another shot someday.
Yes! Now! Oh wait, only thing is nobody's traveling anywhere these days. Shoot. Well, maybe other types of luxury prizes could be given like....shopping sprees or deluxe spa days or "We'll pay your bills for 3 months...i don't know. This was too fun.
New version starting in April on Game Show Network
Nothing beats the Tom Kennedy version.
I like Monty Hall's version
Monty Hall version was better
You’re right. The five cars, the music and Tom Kennedy’s delivery make that the best. Monty wasn’t great and his endgame wasn’t either.
@@neumannsod and don't forget the young lady who demonstrated the cars on the Tom Kennedy version was a very young Markie Post!
You are Amazing Wink. Thank you!
I love the format of Split Second. I love how each contestant can score on every question, and I love that they get rewarded for being the only one correct. This one was not as good as the Tom Kennedy version. The Monte Hall version is good but doesn't seem to move along as fast paced as the Tom Kennedy version. I enjoyed this pilot but felt at times that the contestants were just actors. Don't like the fact that the bonus prize was a trip instead of a car. I still like the 70's bonus round best.
So, i agree with the first few statements you said, but since I've never seen the other two versions of this gameshow; I can't cop to the other statement about which is better.
About the prizes, though; well, not everyone wants a new car. I'm sure I don't and if we were in better times then a luxury trip would be fabulous.
Now, I need to go and see if I can find any eps of the other two versions of this.
Yeah, this version and the Hall don't have the ideal fast pace of the original. Tom Kennedy was a master at keeping a very complex game flowing smoothly. The original set and car bonus round were the best. The Hall set was awful, the bonus round meh.
@@tnate6004 I think an ideal host for "Split Second" would be an ice hockey announcer; they have to call an incredibly fast game very clearly. (Mike Emrick would have been great.) The set screamed 1990 aesthetics, while the bonus game reminded me of those "hat trick" games on the video board between innings at baseball games.
It's actually not uncommon for GS pilots to use paid actors as contestants...additionally, since pilots are merely intended to show prospective networks/syndicators how the game works and aren't meant to be aired, supplying answers in advance is also a common practice.
That’s Bob Hilton announcing the “Split Second” pilot.
I never seen this gameshow before but it seems FUN. ;) Thanks for sharing. ;)
The only version with trips instead of a brand new car 🚗 Great Job Wink! Keep them coming
I swear you have every game show pilot in existence.
now this is a rare treat
he was recently appeared on Entertainment Toniight in 1984
I noticed the logo's the same as from Tom Kennedy's pilot.
I was partial to the Monty Hall version on USA in the 90s.
It was on The Family Channel.
@@Quartzquiz333 Maybe I was mistaken. I was somewhere in the early single digits when they aired those shows on the Family channel. In either case, Tom Kennedy was before my time, and I don't think they ever aired Rob Weller.
@@RJN0607 Rob's version was never picked up.
@Quartzquiz333 I remember that! I am surprised that USA never aired it though given they did air All-New LMAD before FAM picked it up.
I believe stu created the format while working for Monty. He undoubtedly did this with Monty’s blessing.
This was pretty good.
Wink, can I just say that you have the best game show content on UA-cam!!!
I was wondering if this would turn up after Marc Powers' latest GAMES O'CANADA episode. I shoulda guessed you had it, Wink😎
Weller did pretty well with this, and I think he was better on this show than Monty Hall was. Monty is a great host, of course...but he really wasn't a fit for Split Second because he just couldn't match the frenetic pace of the game, Weller did much better with that...though Tom Kennedy was the perfect Split Second host.
Monty Hall his production company created the original split second from 1972-1977 and the 1986 version
This should've made series.....its good
Wow...Ralph Edwards and Stu Billett...couldn't see that coming! I've always known Split Second to be a Hatos-Hall production, arguably their best. Yes, the Tom Kennedy original was the best, but I liked the Monty Hall version also. Both of those versions moved more quickly. This one, not so much. I also prefer the way the other two were produced - with this version, the second and third players had to wait to ring in until told they could. On the other two, they rang in as soon as they knew and a special device indicated the ring-in order. Plus, the other two versions involved playing for a car - much better.
One thing I really liked about the Kennedy version was that some questions did not involve "the board." He'd have a short list of (usually 3 to 5) items and players would have to pick one off the list.
Robb Weller is affable but not as breezy a host as Kennedy, nor as sharp as Hall.
Great share, Wink!!!
Actually if you count embedded squares, it's 14 for Tic Tac Toe, 55 for Bingo and 204 for Checkers.
OMG!!! That was exciting! I love this game. I love the format, the way the trivia questions are asked and answered and the fast pace of the game play. The Countdown segment was really good. I had a hard time deciding between the three trips. Lynn chose Egypt, but I wanted Paris. And I even guessed spot 3 and I can't even see what was going on. I'm so glad she won!
I would so watch this game show. Are there anymore episodes or anything? I can see, though, how a network wouldn't want this game. it could get expensive. And even so, that was excellent!!
I like this a lot!
Oh. I thought it was the 1965 pilot. This is still great though!
I was thinking it might be too, with Jack Clark. There used to be a clip with the first few minutes but it was removed, sadly. I hope the full version of that pilot will be posted, because I wanted to see who won!
Fremantle airs the original Split Second on Buzzr
It's not the original. Monty Hall hosted the revival around '86. The original with Tom Kennedy aired on ABC from 1972-75 - there are a few episodes on YT.
Robb Weller was a fine host, based on his previous work on "Win, Lose, or Draw". The main game was exciting; true to the original. However, the bonus round was really "nothing to write home about". Overall this was an okay pilot. On a 1-10 scale... I give this show a 7
The bonus round was my only issue. Namely because of the grand prizes. Split Second was better when it offered cars.
I give it an 8. I liked this host. i haven't seen any of his other work so i can't really compare.
@@40bpaula Weller didn't host too many game shows. He was primarily a talk show host-- and in his later career, a TV producer (he runs his own company, Weller/Grossman Productions). He ran Home and Garden Television for a while, as well.
@@drewzuhosky6826 He also co-anchored "Entertainment Tonight" from 1984-1986.
This looks like a pilot for the Usa Network
I didn't know Edwards-Billett tried to produce this pilot. It should've gone back to Hatos-Hall.
I agree💯
I believe at this point, Hatos-Hall had already been dissolved. If Wikipeida is correct, and I know it isn't oftentimes, the company closed after the 1986 version of Split Second ended. And since Stu Billett produced the original ABC daytime version, he and Ralph Edwards probably got Monty and Stefan's permission and blessing to do this.
@@milesmorris9333 And Bob Hilton is on announcing duties. Was this pilot produced in Hollywood... someplace?
@@jnadle1 This pilot, based on a picture of a ticket stub I found online for it, was taped at ABC Television Center in Hollywood, now known as The Prospect Studios.
Nice
There’s now a version on GSN with John Michael Higgins as the host.
Which is far superior to this pilot.
The computer graphics looked like they were on a Commodore Amiga.
I'm a little surprised this didn't sell. Sure, Robb Weller is no Tom Kennedy or Monty Hall but he probably would've gotten the job done for a revival. It might not have lasted long, but I would've watched. One thing I would've changed is the end game. I liked the car being the grand prize, not a trip.
Tom Kennedy was always the best host of Split Second!
Not a bad pilot but the theme music was waaaay too cartoony. Also the bonus round being a literal shell game could be a LOT better. The B-Roll tune for that Paris trip was a bop though.
I think Paula was once a contestant on Wordplay.
If you have any more episodes of "Split second," please post them. ;)
My favorite part of the ABC version was whether or not the car would start. That's missing here
I caught an episode of Split Second back in 1975 on TV. I was too young to understand the proceedings, but I recall my mother coming in the room and saying "It's the car game." She probably didn't know what it was. I didn't know that the show I caught was Split Second until I saw an episode on UA-cam and recognized the board with the 3 lines of text. I think they did a bonus round with the cars like that in a later run of Hollywood Squares.
I think the whole choose a number shell game was supposed to take the place of that car thing you were talking about.
It was also very cool how the set came apart for the bonus round.
thank goodness Rob corrected the Superman question i would have type in wrong for the boots.
Games 'o' Canada sent me here!
Me too
Wink uploaded this two days after Marc posted his review. Coincidence?
Thanks for the plug 😁
When I was watching the video I thought that Wink would’ve had this pilot in his collection.
And the pilot DID get uploaded a day later.
❤I LOVE THIS GAME_WITH AN OLD SET AND A NEW SET WITH A SLOWED VERSION_IT'S VERY EDUCATIONAL AND FUN ON BUZZR.
This pilot is not bad. At least the gameplay is closer to the original than Monty Hall's version.
I'm pleasantly surprised that they went back to the original version's revealing the three choices first, then asking the overall question. I don't have a problem with how it was done on the Hall version (asking the question, then revealing the choices), but it definitely changed the game's dynamics.
I'd say it wasn't THAT bad. Just could've been paced better and the bonus round would have been tweaked a bit.
Gee...another pilot, another bonus round winner. I guess the quiz show laws only apply once they are on the air.
This is Paula from PYL!! She was on Chris Kaas' 5th show!
I'm sure Lynn was on the premiere of sale of the century and was also a winner on let's go back.
Paula also did Wordplay, Now You See It '89, and Match Game '90. She kept busy!
Lynn was also on PYL
Lynn is married to PYL contestant Guy from Cindy/John/Guy
Same problem like every other version, amazing main game, lackluster end game. I wish the end game would be the same format as the countdown round. The player selects one of an assortment of bonus prizes (say the trips for example). A topic is revealed with a question with three parts. Answer all of them and win. Or maybe a timed bonus round where you solve three subjects with three parts within an allotted time. Idk. Something better than this because I’ve always enjoyed split second. It’s just the end game that kills a great game.
The only idea I can think of is, 60 seconds: a series of 3 part questions are asked, 1 pt. per answer, a bonus point for getting all 3, $100 per point, 10 pts. wins the prize.
I concur. Like a lot of other hard quizzes (most notably, J!; Who, What, or Where; and even maybe Sale), this was a game that really didn't need a true bonus round in the first place. However, if there really needed to be one (e.g., to make it into a big-money show), having the winner try to answer as many individual questions within a time limit (with perhaps the wrinkle of having the round end immediately if he/she misses all three within a single group) might be the best way to go.
Who's describing the trips? Sure doesn't sound like Bob Hilton... almost sounds like British cartoon voice actor Gary Martin for some reason.
A great game but a lousy bonus round. Here’s my idea for a Split Second bonus round:
Champ is shown three subjects and and he/she chooses one, say, presidents. Three names come up, for example, Washington, Lincoln and Kennedy. Host reads series of facts over 30 seconds and champ must give correct answer out of three choices. Correct answers are worth $100 each. After time is up, champ chooses one of the three previous answers, answers one more question about that subject with a correct answer multiplying the bonus round winnings by 10. Fits with the main game and cash is alway s a better prize than even the most luxurious trip.
Especially a trip that you have to pay beaucoup taxes on to even take, said taxes not being that easy to figure out-- cash is far easier to figure out the taxes on.
I Wish NBC Daytime Could've Picked up this show along with the 1990 Revival of Let's Make a Deal, So here's the schedule should Generations get cancelled
10:00 AM: Let's Make a Deal (Bob Hilton)
10:30 AM: Split Second (Robb Weller)
11:00 AM: Classic Concentration (Alex Trebek)
11:30 AM: To Tell The Truth (Gordon Elliott)
12:00 PM: Local News
12:30 PM: The Marsha Warfield Show
if my memories is correct doesnt the incorrect buzzer sound like the Shop til you Drop buzzer
How about those firework special effects
Overall, this is ok, but the overall cheapness of it (trip instead of a car) shows probably why it wasn't picked up. Also, never was a huge Rob Weller fan as a host. Thought he was far behind Bert Convy and Vicki Lawrence in quality when he hosted Win, Lose or Draw. I think if you got this on a network or syndication with a bigger budget, it could succeed.
i always wondered something if something is a pilot episode how can you have a returning champion?
I really want to hear the entire theme to this immediately!
@13:05 - Nit-picky, but CHARLEY Weaver is misspelled
Very good! With better timing and probably a different theme, bonus I'm not sure of, this could have sold.
Ty for this, I have a copy but the quality of mine sucks.
Not bad, nice set, game play still faithful to the original, Robb does a nice job. The trips are nice but I would have preferred they kept tradition and played for a car especially since $15,000 would still get a nice car in 1990.
I see why it didn't get picked up, 1990 was a rough year for game shows, overcrowded market and talk shows were becoming the latest fad.
Split Second never figured out a good bonus round, just seems like a disconnect when you got a challenging fast paced quizzer followed by a game that's just luck.
But the original’s game of dumb luck was way cool. (At least to a 7-year-old who didn’t like the quiz part.)
Didn't Stephan Hatos and Monty Hall produce this? I didn't like the bonus round here. I liked the car thing better.
I never saw SS in its original runs, as far as I can remember. If I saw Monty host it, I don't remember it, at all. All that said, I've seen Monty's version on Buzzr, and it's dull. I generally like quiz shows with elements of luck. Tic Tac Dough, Joker's Wild, High Rollers, Sale of the Century: All fun. Monty's SS does not entertain me.
So I was surprised to find that I enjoyed the game play of this pilot. I like the pace, and the variety of questions asked made the show far more interesting. The bonus game was a total dud, and I didn't find Monty's bonus game to be particularly exciting, either. But whatever the bonus game, it was a small part of the show. The main game here succeeds, at least for me.
If this version of Split Second would have gotten the green light, imagine if it was distributed by Warner Bros. Television instead of (now-present) Fremantle.
It was actually taped for ABC daytime
@@davidlivingston2754 Weller was tied to ABC for a couple years with _Home._
@@davidlivingston2754 Was it taped at ABC Television in Hollywood?
Think I like this better than Hall's version.
I'm not quite sure which buzz-in strategy I like more. The regular shows buzz-in whenever you like and they show the order... or this pilot's version of one-at-a-time buzzing.
What do you think?
I'm used to the buzz when you know. The game bogs down when players have to wait to be recognized.
Personally, i prefer the ring in when you're given the okay version. It's easier to follow for us blind/visually impaired viewers and a little more controlled. I've only watched 1 ep of the Tom Kennedy show and then this one. I liked this one better. It seemed more fast paced and exciting to me.
Even though the Tom Kennedy version was produced in the mid 70's, it had a 1950's feel to me.
The repetitive "eyes to the screen" reminded me of BET's version of "Triple Threat" with their "ears to the music and eyes to the board" reference.
A little throwback to how Tom Kennedy would say "look at the board"
Feinstein is the double N and Sawyer is the single N.
Given that this show comes from the 80's, why didn't the producers boost up the money?!
On these pilot shows, are they actually playing, or do they run off a script to highlight the points of the game? The winner looked like she was acting. This would have made a good show, though.
Sometimes it's both.
This wasn't too bad at all! One puzzling thing though, I thought Stefan Hatos & Monty Hall owned this, so why was it a Ralph Edwards/Stu Billett production?
Stu Billett was a producer on the original version, I imagine an arrangement was made with Monty.
They must have bought the rights, I think hatos-hall pretty much ended after the 1986 split second.
The same reason Dick Clark and Ron Greenburg produced the '90 "Let's Make a Deal".
Monty Hall seemed to be more about licensing his shows at that point. Let's Make a Deal around this was done by Dick Clark. Stu Billett was on the staff of the original, so he probably went to Monty and Monty licensed it to him
Stu Billet worked for Stefan Hatos-Monty Hall Productions at the time before he worked with Ralph Edwards later on and on shows such as "The People's Court" and "Superior Court" in the 1980's.
The only problem I have is most of the time he says eyes to the screen and it gets annoying
That bonus round ending is so cheesy...
I think the bonus round may be a cure for insomnia.
None of Split Second's bonus rounds really fit the show. A quickfire quiz to start, then a random guessing game at the end.
Wasn't there another "Split Second" pilot made in 2004 with Tom Bergeron as host that ABC actually agreed to pickup, but at the last-minute decided not to because they instead gave back to local stations the 12:30-1 P.M. Eastern time half-hour that would have been the show's timeslot?
I never heard that, but not saying it isn't true. The closest I heard of game shows returning to daytime TV besides the return of Let's Make a Deal on CBS was NBC putting Concentration back on the air, but they decided to go with Hoda and Kathie Lee instead.
Interesting that a pilot episode of a game show can have a returning champion...
That's one of the elements of a lot of pilots: Since the pilot itself isn't supposed to air--but is still designed to demonstrate, as much as possible, what the proposed series would be like--the producers make it seem like the pilot is actually just a regular episode (and not the first episode). Therefore, one of the "contestants" is designated as the (fictitious) "returning champion".
They have to help buyers at the local stations envision it as an ongoing series.
Yeah...that was weird.
Still a great game, but the set and logo were shabby,. Robb was surprisingly good, and I’m sure could have run things faster if it went to series. Thanks, Wink!
It didn't sink in initially, but the logo here now reminds me a bit of what was used for the 1971 pilots for the original version.
what would've happened if she picked the other 2 trips?
She'd win nothing.
I imagine she would've lost. Then she would return as Champion on the next show.
I’d imagine a loss, but she would be returning on the next show
Set would've exploded
@@davidlivingston2754 it wouldn't because it isn't Simon Says!-Jeremy Irons
Does he have the 2000 CBS pilot of The $64,000 Question with Greg Gumbel in his vault?
Greg Gumbel taped a game show pilot? That’s something I didn’t know.
Only watched this for 1 minute, and I already prefer the Monty Hall version better... #sorrynotsorry
When did this air? Was it before or after the Monty Hall version?
After.
This was filmed in 1990, I believe, so about four years after the Monty Hall version. It didn't sell, however, so it has never been broadcast anywhere.
What year this was out?
18:05 Wrong, it’s lacrosse.
That was declared in 1994. This show was taped in 1990.
Wink, do the winners on these pilots actually get to keep the cash and prizes?
These are actors portraying the contestants. No actual monies or prizes were awarded.
I've heard of cases they pay them more for winning just to make sure they actually try.
What year?
1990 I believe.
What year was this? Anyone happened to know? My guess is sometime in the mid to late ‘90s
I read that it was around 1990.
1990.
1990 according to TVTropes.
Either 1989 or 1990, I've seen both cited.
1990 according to Wikipedia
This was corny, I hate to say it. Obvious actors as contestants, Robb was nothing to write home about, the bonus round was lame & they shortened the best part of the game, the Countdown Round, so they could spend more time plugging the trips. The final straw is having to wait until a player was ruled correctly or not to buzz in. It's supposed to be Spilt Second, not Wait Your Turn.
+1 for "Wait Your Turn" 😆
Even Monty Hall's version is better. They wasted time buzzing in every time after a question is asked. The bonus round is horrible.
This is possibly one of the worst bonus rounds I’ve ever seen.
Eh...it keeps in line with the crappy bonus rounds from the two previous versions.
You ain't lying
This is not how the bonus round for Split Second was originally done. I caught Split Second on TV when I was a little kid in 1975, and they did a bonus round where there were 5 cars on stage, and you would put a key in one, and you'd win the car if it started. This video is apparently a later incarnation of Split Second.
Rather bland set
This wasn't that great of a pilot - set needed major changes, better pacing and a different end game.. it's no surprise it failed to sell.