1969 Glue-In Glass: The Comprehensive Repair Guide
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- 1969 and the first part of 1970 was an epic fail for Ford on all its intermediate line. Gluing the glass in instead of bolting it in was one of many cost cutting measures, and it just did not go well. In this comprehensive video Don shows us how to service just about every piece front and rear on a 1969 Cougar. Don also shows the many differences 1969 vs early 1970 and late 1970. Keep in mind all the tips shown here directly apply to a 69-70 Mustang Coupe or convertible; many will also apply to the 69-70 Fastback. Even if you choose not to do the repairs shown here yourself the information is invaluable and you should insist on having your tech review this video before proceeding on your car.
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Wow, this video was a life saver. I know I watched it 20 times and tonight just finally got the glass back in the door. It was has been quite a learning experience. I am grateful for your video.
For everyone struggling to get the glass with brackets back in the door, here is a tip. There is a square hole towards the front of the door that is big enough to fit the bracket in easily. Simply put the rear side of the glass in at the square hole towards the front, then once it is in slide it back and put the front side in the same hole. Works like a charm without touching the paint.
How is it a 41mn vid on glueing door glass ?
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@@guysumpthin2974 Watch it, maybe learn a thing or two.
@@andrewmccooey1688 you got that backwards, I mastered that in 1975
I'm currently restoring a one owner '69 Mustang Fastback for the original lady owner. I had to remove the driver door (removed the fender first) because the door dropped significantly when opened. The door is sitting on my workbench so I can sand and paint the sides before I install the weatherstripping. While sitting on my workbench I noticed the window glass was falling out of the aluminum brackets and I now need to everything together. Thanks to this video I've learned some valuable tricks on how to do it properly. THANKS SO MUCH!!
This video was worth its weight in gold. An actual master class on mustang/cougar windows. I know it's an old video, but thank you sir.
7yrs later . Still gold . Thanks fellas
Don’t think a multi tool existed when this video came out . But it made getting the glued in glass out of the bracket relatively easy. 👍🏼
Don,
Great window video! Especially the very end comparing '69, early '70 and 1970 including convertibles. Putting my '70 convertible door and window back together now. Thanks!
Great video. Don rush reminds me of George hurst. His commitment to the cougar brand really inspires you to keep working on your project. Thanks WCCC.
This was incredible. I have a 69 Shelby that I was going to switch to bolt in but with this great video I am going to rehab my glue-in. Thanks so much.
Great starter video for initial reference and I have now done a lot of research on the topic. Just a note, 1969 Mustang DOES NOT have the plates glued at 1" from edge. Best to test fit dry and work out your own measurements. Thanks guys.
Great video, exactly what I needed to reseat and realign my 69 Mustang windows.
Great vid as usual Don, wish you guys put them up more regularly.
Just about to start my '68 Torino fastback glass etc. OK, so they're not exactly the same, but close enough for this to be a huge help to me over here in the UK. Many thanks for the time and effort in making this very professional video.
Great commentary throughout. These tips apply to a lot of sixties and seventies cars.
I had know idea you guys were so close to home. I’ll be stopping by for sure in the future
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!,,IS IS WHAT I GOT INTO RIGHT NOW,,70 FORD LTD ,,,SAME STUFF ,,THANKS AGAIN !!,,,VERY DETAILED,,,GREAT!!
I always enjoy your videos mate. You're honest in what you say. Im rebuilding a 69 Mustang fastback for a customer and last week removed all door glass and components. Wasn't too hard but little tricky getting the glass out. I'm not at all impressed with the belt line design, hopeless for heavy tropical storms. Would prefer beltline rubbers like the ones used on GM coupe cars, lot larger and sits tight against the glass thereby providing a near water tight seal. The Mustang ones will have rain water gushing into the doors.
I also would like you to show a video on 69 70 Fastback rear glass removal/install and most importantly how to seal the rubber against any leaks. Google and you'll be surprised how many people complain about new rubber seals leaking water, even after they add 3M sealant into the grooves etc. I rebuild more European classics and handful of American. The Euro ones hardly have such issues, like a one time install and you're done for good. And most certainly you don't wrestle with things. Cheers mate
Thank you so much for making this video. I have a 71 Lincoln Continental Mark 3 and it is built pretty much the exact same way. I had no idea what glue to use or how any of the multiple adjustment points worked.
I'm not sure about your Cougars but the rear quarter on my Lincoln actually slides rearward into the C pillar. First vehicle I've ever had that does that trick.
Great video. Thank you for doing this research and video. I am in the process of doing this to my 69 Mach 1.
Awesome video. I just did every one of my brothers windows on his 69 convertable, copying these instructions almost to a tee. Great idea on scuffing the windows, I used the sandpaper tool on my dremel which worked great. When doing the quarter windows, I never removed the piece that bolts to the regulator. I was able to do it all in the car, which was easy. Just gotta be careful to not get any glue on the seals. Slid them in from the gap in the front with the mounting bracket down a few inches. Windows go up and down so smooth no after cleaning all the sliders and regreasing. Chris homan
Now this is what I'm interested in. Are you still out there? I did the driver side taking it all out and then putting it in. I did not do it as easy as it was for Don. I want to do it all in the car for the passenger side. You took the brackets out of the door, and glued them on the glass, and put it back in the car without taking out the regulator? Or did you leave everything in the door, except the glass itself. Then somehow dropped the glued glass into the brackets in the door? Thanking you in advance.
Exactly the video I needed. Can't wait to check out your other videos.
Thank you! Even though it’s not the same, this video will help me with my 70 thunderbird. Overall similar design but I could not find any resources on 70-71 thunderbirds but this answered a lot of my glue in glass questions.
Great video! Thank you. This has really helped me to understand how window hardware works. The hardware looks close enough to my '68 Torino, that I should have a good handle it.
Great video, from start to finish. Wish I had these details 40 years ago. lol Will help out with my 70 Mach 1.
I don't have a Cougar but I certainly enjoyed this video; it's excellent - Thanks
That is a great video! Very useful and informative. Keep'em coming!
Very good video. Straight and to the point! exactly answers all my questions! Thank you!
While I didn't have one of the first Cougars, I did have one of the first Cougars ever sold in Montana, a 1967 2 tone, white top, blue body! it was an automatic with a 289 V8 engine. My favorite car...
great great great video. always order from these guys
I notice in some of wccc videos, when the guys roll their windows down they will have 1 hand above the window to help gently guide the window down. Good attention to deal when dealing with a common issue on these cars.
iliketowatchthis haha I learned that trick real fast too after i bought mine.
Habit...
Excellent video. Very well done.
I tried to fix mine on my 69 mach1.. I didn't do it like this guy.. I cant believe they are still working.. nice job..
fords better idea.. yeah ok..
Not a Ford or cougar guy, excellent tech tip with that 3m caulk. I have to use this for my gm.
I love all the information in this only thing I'd find more helpful is accurate measurement of the bottom of all the glass mentioned in both metric, an standard inch. I'm guessing from the bottom front to bottom back since there are so many different options. I hope to convert all door rear quarters to 1970 bolt in. Just acquired a 1969. That is rough but feel brave enough to make this non running driving cat into a daily driver.
I made plastic spacers out of those clear plastic fruit containers to get rid of the slop from the reproduction plastic runner things - it worked great. Also there’s a much easier way to put the window in. It’s hard to explain but I can make a video if it’s not out there already, I’ll check and add the link if someone else has already shown how
exactly whats wrong with our 69 mustang - plan to rectify all the issues coming month! Thanks! Windows and doors all over the place - highly frustrating! Plus ur 10 minutes from my house - might just pop in and come say hi!
Thank you very much, great video . "tip" ... A way to try before having to cut the bracket is to try running a guitar string back and fourth working it around the glass. thanks again.
Great video. Great help!! A correction though. The two brackets that slide up and down face backwards not forewords. (Confirmed by door cutout segment earlier in the video).
Superb Video. Thank you very much. Going to give it a try.
Awesome video Don. Thanks for making all these. However, 1 tube isn't nearly enough if you clean the channels out of all previous glue. If you clean them out, get 2 tubes (at least)
Great video. I did find that setup of epoxy is a mess. I used a caulking gun and two dowel rods to push into the epoxy. Some of the epoxy came out the back end. And this stuff is barely enough for one window. Not enough if you have cleaned the entire mount out and it's bare metal. I was able to use plastic toilet shims to center the glass. The shims break off easy after it dries. Just make sure to get the shims with the ribs that can break off against mounts.
Thanks For Video and the Detail filming in the Door to show how its work ,i Had the Same Problem with nuckeling glasses on my 69 Mustang. I am German and my english is very bad.thats Not helpfull because i cant ask somebody.that makes your Video so very helpfull for me
great video learned alot ! thank you very much ! thanks for not just running your mouth like most people do ! everything you talked about made sense !!!!!!!
Did you need to do anything special to ensure that the glass will seal properly against the weatherstripping and doesn't tilt too far out from the body once you've glued the brackets to the glass? I tried to do this job on an old Ranchero years ago and failed miserably. I did everything like you describe here but the top of the glass stuck out too far from the car and wouldn't seal against the weatherstripping when I was done. Now I have a 68 Fairlane with the same problem. Any advice is most appreciated! Thanks!
Thanks for the video,i wish we had something as thorought 25-30 years ago,i had to deal with something like that myself a million times years ago,apparently nowadays people is looking to a quick and cheap way to add power windows to those cars,but don't like the plastic kits they're selling over the internet,or trying to adapt the ever rare 71-73 mechanism,i bet you guys could devise some solution to the problem,it'll be a hit.
I usually use 3M weatherstrip adhesive without grinding the glass. Never had one come loose. Thought I would mention it.
Thanks! I was looking for this!
anybody that gives you a thumbs down is just jelish of you ! lol keep up the great videos !
I was to by a 70+ years young man who has owned ford all his life. If you soak the window glass brackects overnight in lacquer thinner it will eat the glue away enough to get the old glass out. Gonna try it just haven't got around to that project yet. Great video by the way! (question) will the chrome weather strip on the side of the window fit on a 70? I like the look.
Not a bad idea! And no, the '69 vertical chrome piece won't work on a '70, as the size of the door and quarter windows are different, and on the '70 you get a vertical trim piece on the quarter window instead of the door window.
Could you tell me what part number of the bolt that goes from the regulator arm to the bracket?
Does it appear to anyone else that opening at the end of the door may be wide enough to slide the glass brackets through before lowering into place rather than having to force the brackets through the top?
+Elvis Presley As you noticed the notch at the front of the door is wide enough for the window stops built into the door brackets to fit thru. I have removed and installed my glass through them multiple times without the hassle shown in this video. When installing you simply guide the rear bracket thru first then move the glass rearward in the door and guide the front bracket thru. It is much easier than this video depicts. However the rest of the video is very informative and accurate.
You're right! Another customer noticed the same thing. We stand corrected. Here's a little video he did to demonstrate: ua-cam.com/video/eqVhpl0CEoQ/v-deo.html
Correct, should have done it that way, it had been years since I had done one and forgot all about loading it through the back!
About to embark on a project to do this on a 69 Mustang Boss 302. Driver side glass fell out. Shape it's in on the inside of the door is probably akin to what you found in the cougar and that old bonded door you showed outside. This video is a God send. I searched but found nothing about the rear quarter glass (gotta go in similarly for it too). I am confident I can complete this as per your guidance. However, I have no idea at all about the quarter glass. Hardware looks good down in the panel but the glue rotted and it fell out too. Do you have a video for how to get the quarter glass done also? I feel I could glue the glass in there without taking anything out if need be but would be concerned about the location of where it would be glued on to the bracket for a good fit whan rolled up. Thanks!
Fantastic. I just got my driver side done in a 69 Mustang. Thanks so much Don. I want to do the passenger side next. Is there any way to do it without taking out the regulator and/or brackets? To glue it in in the door? Did you ever make a video on doing it that way?
i always found fo mo co products to be lacking in both design and build quality . but you are a great resource for parts and bits and pieces . so , if someone wanted to , they could maybe overcome some of these flaws . good job , Mr. Don .
awsome vid..will be calling u on some stainless steal window trim that u said are hard to find....I have a 69 mustang
Very Informative video! I learned a lot! I have a 1970 mustang coupe with bolt-in glass on the passenger side and glue-in on the driver's side! I am wondering whether you can point me to where I can find the clue-in position for my driver's side window. I am not sure the 1" from the window edge rule for the 1969 Cougar applies to a 1970 Mustang! Thanks very much for the video.
I noticed he said the track bracket openings face forward but the car with the cut up door the openings were facing to the rear.
I asked our used parts guys and they said: We've seen those both facing forward, facing back, facing each other, facing away from each other... not sure if there's a real right way to do it. The assembly manual doesn't show, and Ford did not seem to be consistent when installing them. Don said that in the video because the ones he was working with seemed to fit better that way.
Great video, i have a 70 mustang, my passenger side glass is not riding in the weatherstrip channel at the front(too far inboard), it also rubs the upper front stop with the front window metal guide. I got frustrated and stopped before i broke something. Mine are bolt in glass 70 style. I was watching your video, at 11:40 or so, you said those runners are the same on the drivers side, are you gonna tell me they are slightly different on the passenger side and solve my problem. I have the front one on the back and need to swap them. I really hope you just solved my dilemma. I did have all the guts out for cleaning/ restoring evolutions. Thanks for you videos and help!
Great Video, I am re-gluing my 69 Ranchero side window back in. The previous owners glue job did not hold. I removed all the glue and original glue out of the channels and purchased a new RUBBER TAPE KIT from AutoKrafters. Does this rubber tape need to be glued on both sides, channel and glass sides?
I’ve had very good luck using a gaff tape layer on glass before glue..but 80grit on a DA should rough up without fear
Perfect video.
The stud in Window Channel Bracket - Don says it should be free floating. Should it be free also when regulator arm is attached to it? Since it is window's fore-aft adjustment, I think it should be stationary (fore-aft movement) when nut is secured?
Figured id point out for anyone doing this on a 68/69 Fairlane, you will want to shoot for around 1 1/4" from edge of glass. Just went through this process, assuming that 1" would be standard, and got to dremel out the slot a good 1/4" in order to get the windows far enough forward.
Great info, thanks
Are there any tips for where to put the brackets on the glass if the glass was broke when you bought the car and you have no reference
Wonder if this is similar on a 1970 Torino GT Fastback. My windows are all janky, I'll see if there's similar adjustment points. Thanks!
For Mustangs the measurements are slightly different - I'd double check your car and fit the brackets to the guides before gluing in - on my car I needed to put the front bracket 1/2" from the window edge and 1" on the rear guide
Can you make a video on rear quarter glass with power how to remove
Good information, thank you! I looked for another video for the rear windows, but couldn't find one. What are the measurements for centering the rear window in it's bracket? It's a 1970 window if that helps. Thanks!
Don, will be putting window in my doors this week in my 70 Eliminator. Should I have my belt line weather strip in the door or out. Seems like would have more room not putting it in ? Thanks mike macleod
If you have bolt in glass space is not an issue. If you have glue in feed the glass in through the back. To learn more login at classiccougarcommunity.com and post on the forum
After installing new plastic guide clips my guide bracket is still loose on the rail. As you mentioned, these repro clips are not the same as the originals. Just wondering if you have tried giving the guide bracket a squeeze in a vice to try to reduce the gap so there is less play, or do you risk damaging the bracket?
Well answered my own question. Tried giving them a bit of a squeeze in the vice tonight and now they fit perfectly with no play. You can also use the new plastic guides with a very thin shim of plastic under the wings as someone else mentioned. Something like the clear plastic of the lid of a shirt box or some type of rigid plastic packaging works well. It doesn't have to be very thick. It's amazing the difference a thin slither under each wing of the guides can make. The guides clip in very tightly so there is little chance of them falling out.
Thanks for the tip, I'll be working on mine for my 68 ranchero this weekend
hello sir I own a mustang coupe I wanted to see if you knew how the quarter window actually bolts in from the bottom, I know the cougar and mustang share some of the same parts please help thank you so very much
Please. The one inch distance rule. Applies to the 69 fairlane torino, too?
Acid glass etch from Hobby Lobby could do the best job on that at 19:00
So on a 70 mustang FB,slide the glass in on the rails and then fit the window mechanism?
PS your videos are always on song
Thank you so much for taking the time and sharing your expertise. I will certainly watch this again. Two question : My driver door will not close if the window is all the way up. Should the top of the window fit flush to the gasket in the door or should it be recessed into the gasket? There is a metal "thing" at the inside rear of the top of the door frame that is hitting the glass when I close the door. What is that?
+Skip Barrus Not sure what the metal thing is you're referring to, a picture would help. As for the window going up too far, you probably need to adjust your stops.
How much of the factory glue should be removed from the channel? I have about 1/4" of material on the bottom of the channel, should I remove it or leave it?
Your wild with your grinder lol great video fun and educational if i had one of these dinosaurs I would sub but heres a view and a like
I have a 1969 Mustang Grande.... Same issue, is the placement of the brackets EXACTLY the same?? My rear seat small windows are also very tight to roll down when the hit the halfway point.. any ideas?
Appreciate this video. Any tips for if the metal molding on the rear of the window comes apart? The window is still set in the molding but right behind that the two pieces of metal molding separated. Able to fix or should I get a new molding?
Probably best to just get a new trim piece: secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/store/Search.aspx?CatID=15886&SearchTerms=door%20window%20vertical%20trim%20repro&Type=AND
Very nice video. Regarding the slides, you noted that these should always point to the front of the car. The demo door shows these pointing to the rear. Does it matter as long as both point in the same direction?
+Mike Baer Good catch, we think you're correct - as long as they face the same direction, it doesn't matter.
OK.....no silicone, but would "Gorilla Glue" work to glue the glass in? It's very strong stuff I've noticed.
We would really recommend the correct glue for that application: secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/10022242.html
Thanks so much for this video!
I see people are saying that gluing 1in from each end of the glass is not right for a 69 fastback mustang. Does anyone have the correct or approx measurements for a fastback 69? The clamps were glued in the wrong positions on mine so I can’t use them as a guide. Greatly appreciated if someone can help.
Do you have the measurements for the drivers side window to glue the brackets back on in the right spots?
Thanks I've been messing with my 68 fairlane 2 door.now I know exactly what to do.can I get parts for my application on your site?
We only sell parts for the Cougar ( and Mustang since many parts cross ), so unless the parts you need cross with the Cougar, we would not have them.
Hey guys! This is a fantastic video!
One question, in part of this video you say it’s all the same for 1969 mustangs, but later you say not for Fastbacks. Can you please elaborate what is different on them? I have a 69 Fastback that I want to do this on. Just need to know what to expect.
Thanks!!
Fastback / Sportroof glass is different than coupe / convertible door glass. The rear bracket installation measurement may change. Thanks for commenting!
The factory workers had it easy because they assembled ALL the door guts BEFORE the door skin went on which is why they could do it so fast and effortless.
I know you gave the 1" measurements from the edge of the glass for the brackets. But how deep does the glass have to be in the channel? All the way touching the bottom, or I've read 3/8" shim on the bottom of channels??
About 3/8" is the correct spacing.
I have a 1969 Mustang convertible with the glue in glass. Need to confirm that the plates mount the same as your cougar, that is 1" from the edge of the glass. Please respond.
+Shaneev C Yes, should be the same!
is there a video for gluing it inside the door?
Help full thanks
Thanks!
Good video. Thanks. The Guys over at AutoRestoMod Directed me over here. I know this id for a Cougar, but would you happen to know what the Dims for bonding the glass for a 68 Torino Vert.
Quick question how closely related are the 69 cougar parts to a 69 montego mx? What web sites do you recommend for getting parts for a montego?
This is great however I would like to point something out. You mention that the window guide brackets face forward as they ride up and down on the window guide rods, however in the cut out door they face backwards or to the rear of the car. Which is correct?
The cut away is wrong. Good eye! Actually they seem to work the same which ever way they are placed.
In the Mustang Part & Body Illustrations manual that I have they face backwards or to the rear of the car. ie. The arms point to the rear.
Is the window regulator different for the rear windows also? Just purchased a 69 mustang and am redoing it, found 69 glass in drivers door and 70s clamp in glass is passenger. Not sure about the rear glass yet, going to work on those this weekend. Thanks.
Yes, the quarter glass is specific to 69 or 70. Here is a link to our 69 Quarter Window parts: secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/store/Search.aspx?SearchTerms=quarter%20window&CatID=15886
@@WestCoastClassicCougar but the regulator is the same for rear correct? Says 69 and 70 for the rears. I seen about the front regulators and glass are different for 69 and 70 and rear glass is different but regulators and window brackets are the same?
@@jasonmanes3862 Yes, the brackets and regulators (or the window motor if equipped with power windows) for the quarter windows are the same 69-70. The glass, quarter to body seals, glass mounted weatherstrips are different.
Well off to re install my window glass on my 69 Mach1, wish me luck
Thank you for all the parts. Just installing all the glass and brackets ATM on 69 mustang coupe. In this video both the window slide brackets face the same way (14-15 min in video) Is this correct? or should they both be facing with openings to center?
Thank you
Just double-checked the diagram in the Ford master parts catalog, and it looks like they do both face towards the back of the car, as shown.
Clean and dry some rust prevention enamel paint rattle can ok you think? What kind of labor time we talking what is a fair price to do all this hassle on someone else’s vehicle
This video shows everything except how to cut out the old glued bracket. Mine is wobbly but still glued. I need to remove it
Sometimes, like in this video, you can just strong arm the bracket off the glass. Another commenter also suggested "try running a guitar string back and fourth working it around the glass".
Awesome