With Liu's Havik being Dairou, it seems Titan Havik is the old Cleric of Chaos. It is specially clear as the voice actor has a distinctivly different performance as Titan Havik than the main Havik. Titan Havik has this whispery voice you would expect a Cleric of Chaos should have.
Funny you say that. I had that exact same thought. Like he is a havik from a much older wiser timeline. Possibly even the Cleric of Chaos. So it’s cool you had the same thought lol
I think he is the original havik from the 3D era too Look at his eyes. He has the same cataract looking eyes as the original did. His design is also closer to the original one too. I hope that he is one of the characters that survived the original Armageddon (original timeline) that would be awesome.
To me, Titan Havik seems to be THE Havik. The original 3d era Havik. Same weapon, same look, same voice. This is him, the cleric of chaos, and he's here to cook.
Nah this is the one from the 9 to 11 era. The 3d era of characters have destroyed blaze and absorbed his power. So their basically a whole nother set of gods from the mk 9 to 11 era
My theory is that Havik is from a timeline where he was recruited by Kronika, but while the battle for the Hourglass was happening, he offed Kronika, took her Crown and rebooted the universe and blessed it in Chaos. And probably his minions, Sub Chi, Kitanya and Savage Kenshi are his generals. So we could see Chaos Baraka, Chaos Liu Kang and such
I’m hoping there’s a Expansion Story in the Future to see how Dangerous Havik is as a Titan and to get hints on how Dairou created the Mental of Havik.
I think Titan Havic is the same Havic that Shang Tsung references in Aftermath. Remember that the reference is made after Shang sends Geras to the Chaos Realm. It is likely through possible outcome of Havic meeting Geras that allows him to achieve his own timeline from the events of MK11.
This ^ everyone else says he’s the one we played as in Armageddon but I believe this. Armageddon and Mk1 have a whole timeline between them, it makes since that titan Havik would be from the most recent timeline (9-11)
The dude literally is the main antagonist of Mortal Kombat X comics, those are canon yet he says on the video that Havik never appeared between 9 and 11 😅
This is what I’ve been saying, it’s right before they invade chaos and OrderRealm in the end of Shangs aftermath ending. I’m guessing Havik defeats shang, takes the hourglass then runs his timeline concurrently with Shangs and Liu Kangs, making all of them unbeknownst to one another.
@@0AFonseca that’s because the exact events in the comics can’t always be taken as canon because some were retconned in 11. Tho I believe Havik is part of the canon
What if this version of Havik is Hotaru and he has Dissociative Identity Disorder? He does wear green like Hotaru and this timeline seems to think everyone is interchangeable.
I'm confident Hotaru will be a future DLC character. They brought back Havik, even Darrius who I certainly didn't expect but am happy to see again, so I'm pretty sure the Orderrealm zealot isn't far behind.
Let's just hope that he doesn't get sidelines and/or downright forgotten about in the next Mortal Kombat game. If there's one thing that annoys me is when a post-credit scene teases an upcoming event in a future installment, only for them to do nothing with it later on. It's kinda like how Mortal Kombat X teased the idea of Dark Raiden being the main antagonist in the next game, only to replace, and erase, him a good ten minutes in the next game (I.E. Mortal Kombat 11).
I think that’s why they “rebooted” the game. The old games/timeline started getting intricate and messy. They wanted to restart it with an actual plan. I also think they’re going to do a DLC to continue with Titan Havik
@@RebelRebel01 The ending to this game is the messiest MK has ever been. With the multiverse, they made it so they can make whatever happen without having any real explanation behind it.
My first thought was that Titan Havik was from MK Armageddon. In his ending, Havik used Blaze's power to warp and distort the realms, and presumably its people. Given Havik's whisper-like voice, his dead eyes, and his morningstar, it was enough evidence for me. I'm probably wrong, but it's still a fun though. Hell, imagine if all the mishmashed characters that show up during MK1's finale were actually chaotic amalgamations provided by Havik.
i would like these characters to be from the original timeline during Armageddon, imagine not only dealing with Titans who got the hourglass but ones who beat Blaze and got his power.
I like this theory. It would explain the crazy combinations of characters we saw if it was Titan Havik from the OG Armageddon time-line who supplied the troops. Havik loves chaos after all. That would mean all the other endings from OG Armageddon could also exist now
I love the fact that it’s not Mortal Kombat for a merger of realms as per the Elder Gods, but the titans have it to where it’s Mortal Kombat for a merger of timelines. Seeing all the different versions and combinations for Johnny and Kung Lao we fought in the end, makes you kinda wonder just before the end of the game, and after he found out about the other timelines, how many Shang Tsung actually conquered
Likely for the next game it will be a merger of MK universes instead timelines. All timelines of the One Being will join forces against the other universe of alternate MK where Liu Kang is a woman, Jax married Sonya, and Johnny Cage is a panhandler instead of a movie star.
@@VOAN I feel titans are a higher threat than gods such as shinnok or Onaga or the one being. So a merger of timelines would bring a bigger threat than The One Being or Onaga.
It’s just lame, multiverse and timelines are just lazy because there’s no stakes and no need to develop anything. You can just pluck whatever you need at any point in time and just say oh this clone is so exactly similar to our own that it fits.
I was shocked to see Titan Havik, that was a huge swerve in my opinion. Seeing a mishmash of characters like Quantum Chi and such, the whole game is awesome.
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 to be fair, instead of doing the same copy and paste, some character swaps or mixtures has its advantages and disadvantages, it all depends on the player, I’m no game developer but I do have some mixed feelings on certain characters like mixing Sonya with Kano’s eye piece but we’re all have our opinions and everyone is entitled to them
I think the most terrifying thing about this, is that this Havik is most likely THE HAVIK OF CHAOSREALM, not like Dairou Order Realm Havik in the main story.
@@DonYoGi8331 Mortal Kombat X Havik is not the same as Deception Havik... Deception Havik died like everyone else on the Armageddon pyramid, the timeline was rebooted, Mortal Kombat 9 through 11 characters aren't the same as Deception ones.
While I wished Havik was the main big bad in MK1 I really want a grounded story with Lord Havik as a villain, that while poses a threat, isn't another multiversal threat. Maybe Havik can bring about chaos by trying to establish chaosrealm or something, and that very act requires some great conflict to occur.
Havik may be less of a puncher but worse as Onaga could be killed, Havik is completely immortal even being not Titan, as he can regrow his head and molecular level, Onaga can be hard to kill with his skin but he can die regularly. Titanic Onaga needs another Titan to kill him. Havik can't be killed even in his human form, Titan form is worse bc humans can't harm him at all while Titans only stop. Just like Geras he only can be slowed
@@Eric_Nomad_Hixtonebeing able to regenerate doesn't mean he's unlikable It doesn't even have to be physical injury Shang tsung can suck his soul for example
I could be wrong, clearly, but I honestly believe the MK1 story is a more expanded version of that rumored Aftermath 2 that was said was coming for MK11. MK1 actually connects pretty well with MK11's story and I could honestly see MK11 ending with a Titan Havik cliffhanger and MK1 could've been about Titan Havik. I hope we see some news about a story expansion soon! Probably in the new year.
It just means we should hope for a story DLC....I think it will explain the creation of the chaos realm, with its ruler Havik. If such a DLC will come, NRS really should include Hotaru too. Anyway, the original Havik is one of the most interesting characters with much potential, so I hope NRS will reall focus on him and his allies in upcoming DLC. Same goes for Lin Kuai DLC, where Bi-Han turns into Noob, Scorpion into the new grandmaster/Sub Zero and Hanzo becoming the new Sorpion.
His allies are just some random CAC (create-a-creator ala Armageddon). If Havik wants to be the main villain then he had to wait in line right behind Onaga, Shao, Shang Tsung, Shinnok, and Quan Chi.
I also do like how Titan Havik looks, it's like they took Mayan or Inca culture and created this, especially how the pyramid looks like a actual ziggurat pyramid, like how the Mayans and Inca built theirs, as well as Sumerian and Babylonian culture, too. And probably to keep on that idea, maybe we'll see Kotal in the future cuz of his Osh-Tekk heritage, and how Osh-Tekk is literally derived from Mayan culture, plus we can't just gloss over how in the Johnny Cage storyline, we literally get a whole "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" reference, which is more Hindu related than Mayan, but they'll probably just morph it into something.
So Titan Havik is the Havik we know from Deception, while MK1 Havik is originally Dairou, and Titans Kung Lao, Raiden, Kitana are the ones from MK11..... honestly I like this
Yeah there's plenty of people that could've been used that we saw nothing of like the black dragon, Noob, we knew Darrius was already a side kick for him.
Remember in Shang Tsung ending in mK11 aftermath. When Shang Tsung conquerored the timeline he made Raiden and Fujin his herald they said earth realm, outworld and netherrealm all conquered. Per your command order realm and chaoss realm is next. Which means on screen the chaos realm that contained Havik was not yet said to be conquerored maybe he is the Havik from the main canon.
I think the end credit scene is a hint to another game or game mode...much like the orginal MK Ameggendon .. there will be a create ( or blend) a character options...much like the cannon fodder you fight in this final story arc....
I truly enjoy both your knowledge of the MK lore throughout the different mediums and your deep dives into the future storyline. Also caught your color commentary and announcing at Viennality. Great job!
For every Titan character that won, isn't there a Kronika that beat them? There isn’t 2 endings for 11, there's 3 if we think of Kronika's victory as one.
I don’t know how to feel about titan havik as the new villain for the mortal kombat universe but I am intrigue on where he’s going to go with his story for mortal kombat 2.
We do have a tie in from mk11 that could tie in the timeline mystery! Shang tsung sent geras to chaosrealm to prevent him from reassembling in aftermath. So havik does get a mention that ties him into the new timeline
Good ideas since it seems like he feeds off the fighting he could be looked at as an Aries type of titan. The 4 horseman could be a setup to a long drawn out timeline with the last battle as the apocolips but this time it would be saving one timeline while the others are destroyed right now the doors are locked but they could be opened again can’t wait for the DLC fighters and story extensions.
Titan Havik could be very interesting as the main villain (MK13), imagine relishing the Chaos all over the realms, Liu Kang needs to gather more champions (Sonya, Jax, Kung Lao, Kenshi, Johnny Cage, Kitana, Raiden, Ashrah, Baraka, Mileena, Reptile, Scorpion, Smoke, Stryker, Li Mei) in order to defeat Titan Havik & his minions (Sub-Zero/Quan Chi, Tanya/Kitana, Kenshi/Reiko, etc.)
I would love for this to be continued in a future story expansion with how good aftermath did during Covid. When I seen Havik dawning this armor I was like 😮 I that skin in GAME ! How can I get it ?!?. I do hope they incorporate that variant of him in the in game market place.
The 4 horseman Conquest-War-Famine and Death. Titan Havik representing Conquest or Death doesn't work because chaos doesn't want conclusion or stability, War would suit him but he should be wearing red and wielding a sword. Reishi/Kenko is unified with his ancestors on Kenshi this one would have to be good at turning people against each other with telepathy but as Reiko he'll be a general. Kitanya could represent Famine or Death due to the concept of Ninja depleting enemy resources and her diplomatic skills might allow her the chance to wreck economies. Quanzero could also be famine due to wearing black and the character being a schemer, he could also be war due to his manipulation of the dead and turning them against the living, he could represent death since in the original tmeline he's a mass murderer. They could also be a twisted alternate take of the 4 symbols from Chinese myth T.Havik or Quanzero being Genbu, Reishi being Suzaku, Kitanya or T.Havik being Seiryu or Quanzero or Kitanya being Byakko. Or maybe they could be the 4 heavenly kings, the 4 humors, the 4 Evangelists or the 4 elements. Whatever it is I intend to find out.
I could see this havik either killing the current havik because he sees him as a disgrace or absorbs him fusing together And come on nrs bring back hotaru this the perfect opportunity
Id like to think the Chaosrealm is outside of any timeline.. for example in Greek Mythology before the universe there was only chaos sort of thing.. Therefore THIS Havik could be the OG Havik from the 3d Era, watching everything unfold from the outside.. everything from the reboot to Kronikas defeat.. waiting for his time to strike
What if that havik is the same one shang mentioned in aftermath? Shang sent geras to chaos realm. Two immortals fighting... what if geras gave him those scars?🤷♂️
Seeing him in the ending made some of the people i know refrain from doing a day one purchase on mk1. This game will have a big dlc that will complete the story just like mk11 four years ago.
I am little afraid of mortal kombat creators do not know how to deal with timelines and make the game lose itself by creating complex things. So to speak, Liu Kang had restarted all timeline, but for some way titanb shang tsung found parallel one in the previous game to after find exactly the timeline that liu kang was. By the time he found it, he died and then arose another titan to wage a war because he likes chaos.
Isn’t the ending a plot hole, after Titan Shang Tsung’s death Liu Kang said that timeline was done for. The only way this makes sense is if this is the pyramid from Armageddon/the Midway timeline and if that’s the case didn’t Shao Kahn destroy existence after killing Raiden?
The story has a quite interesting unwritten relationship with the concept of fate. It can be seen in ways that even in a timeline where they're created differently by Liu, the characters start drifting towards their originals. Havik getting faceburned to resemble old Havik is a really cool example of this. As is Mileena getting affected by Tarkata. These things weren't written in by Liu, but just happened. Kenshi getting blinded again even had Liu commenting on it.
Once they went all out on the mutliversal stuff, I entirely lost track of the story. Havik may be the new threat, but can't Liu Kang just build another army of titans to fight again? Since there's endless time lines, there wouldn't be any shortage of recruits.
You said that these Titans are from their tower endings in MK11 and that makes sense. Well for Liu Kang it makes no sense at all, his MK11 tower ending said he defeated the Elder Gods and replaced them with his friends like Kitana, Raiden, King Lao and himself and as we know that didn't happen... Btw what do you mean that Havik never canonically appeared between 9 and 11? Dude literally is the main antagonist of the X comics, those are canon my guy.
I Love the Idea of A Multiverse in Mortal Kombat! Every character is a Titan of they're on Universe with they're own set of all the Characters. That means there's infinite possibilities! Just Imagine Titan Onaga, Titan Shinnok or Titan Shao...
How? Liu Kang sends you home to your own timeline because "the pyramid" is been destroyed because Shang Tsung died. The only way this is possible is because this a similar timeline where Titan Havik replaced Titan Shang Tsung in the story and won armageddon.
8:29 Kenshi is wearing Havik's colors. Maybe his 2nd in command and the other 2 are his 3rd in command, since both are wearing blue, which is a royal color.
I’m not exactly a fan of opening the doors to Titan characters but I’m more upset that Jack showed up to be in the pyramid scene only to be killed by havik, why was he the one to get clapped by havik man not cool 😪 Also kinda surprise that one of haviks followers wasn’t Darius like mk1 havik
@@CanalSDRI mean hopefully that was an evil version since he was facing down the stairs... cope I know but honestly both sides were just all fodder from other timelines
This is the 3D era Havik I have no doubt about it The new Havik is Dairou (also 3d era) and so I would hope the next thing is a story expansion going to the realm of order and chaos and exploring Titan Haviks timeline I wouldn't mind playing like a villains only DLC story
Whatever Titan Havok is planning will be a new mode or story for your custom character. All the variants reminded me of Armageddon. Be cool to see custom fatalities again too
A godlike being whos sole purpose is to cause glorious chaos, and realizes bringing every varient of every great fighter in every timeline causes the most amount of chaos there is. Havik is gonna have a field day creating Endless Armageddon.
It would be amazing if he is the Havik of the original timeline. Imagine Titan Noob Saibot and Havik joining forces. It would be the biggest threat to the realms yet.
It would be funny if they tease Titan Havik in the ending of MK1 as acting cool and such and then MK2 happen and Titan Havik got dropped down to jobber level just like Dark Raiden at the end of MKX going into MK11. Dark Raiden was tease as tough and more evil than the revenants at the end of MKX even bringing the head of Shinnok as a warning but when MK11 happen Dark Raiden became a background character to the Cages and eventually was eliminate from the story altogether.
Did anyone else felt like Titan havik was just kinda a weak tease. I love havik have done ever since i was the kid, but even i thought "yeah havik probably isnt the best character to headline his own game or dlc" nrs stop fucking aroind and do onaga already you have teased onaga for 3 games now stop blue balling and commit to a game where onaga is the main villain
Just give the people what they want onaga NRS can be stubborn for no reason when has havik ever been anything other than an obscure character? That wasn’t the mk x comics I don’t have a problem with him except that he isn’t onaga 🤷🏽♂️ who I hope isn’t a mindless beast since he has to be “tamed”
I know the MKX Comics isnt cannon but what " IF " Titan Havik is The Ideal Fully Immersed in this new era? Where as the havik in the comics was a master genius and destroyer of worlds with blood magic.
From MK 11's roster compared to the current roster of MK1, there is also Titan Rain, Titan Mileena, Titan Sub-Zero (Not Invasion), Titan Scorpion (Invasion), Titan Baraka, Titan Geras and Titan Sindel,
I'm not really convinced of the "Four Horsemen" idea as simply because I'm not even convinced there's much stock to put into the featured acolytes with Titan Havik. I'm more under the impression that the only reason why they were even there was to show that there were remnants of the fusion characters under Havik's subordination, giving us a hint as to how Havik plans on conducting chaos in the future. If so, this would help explain why the Armageddon chapter at the end of the game was included, despite seeming excessive as you mentioned in your review video. I think the whole point of that sequence was to instill the very stupid bullshit chaos that we all found it to be. Titan Havik, himself even expresses a desire to recreate that very event "next time". So, I'm betting that we're going to see this fusion character craziness in some fashion going forward, even if it's not necessarily the specific ones we see in the epilogue.
I,m very curious were there gonna take this I really hope we get Drahmin, Moloch and Meat they all have sooo much potential they all have sick redesigns on Reddit
With Liu's Havik being Dairou, it seems Titan Havik is the old Cleric of Chaos. It is specially clear as the voice actor has a distinctivly different performance as Titan Havik than the main Havik. Titan Havik has this whispery voice you would expect a Cleric of Chaos should have.
Funny you say that. I had that exact same thought. Like he is a havik from a much older wiser timeline. Possibly even the Cleric of Chaos. So it’s cool you had the same thought lol
@@danquaza9275 this times line havik is a pussy makes sense him being Dairou.
I’m pushing the agenda that this is basically the new Deception timeline and no one can change that. Call me a rat I don’t care
I think he is the original havik from the 3D era too Look at his eyes. He has the same cataract looking eyes as the original did. His design is also closer to the original one too.
I hope that he is one of the characters that survived the original Armageddon (original timeline) that would be awesome.
@@rajdeepsingh3159 honestly if anybody could have survived the original Armageddon, it would have been Havik. Totally would make sense
To me, Titan Havik seems to be THE Havik. The original 3d era Havik. Same weapon, same look, same voice. This is him, the cleric of chaos, and he's here to cook.
And we need that mace!! Hopefully in the next game but we best get titan havik as a skin for our playable havik
you are right just look at his eyes they look white
Nah this is the one from the 9 to 11 era. The 3d era of characters have destroyed blaze and absorbed his power. So their basically a whole nother set of gods from the mk 9 to 11 era
I love that titan Havik has his original deception voice.
real shit?
My theory is that Havik is from a timeline where he was recruited by Kronika, but while the battle for the Hourglass was happening, he offed Kronika, took her Crown and rebooted the universe and blessed it in Chaos. And probably his minions, Sub Chi, Kitanya and Savage Kenshi are his generals. So we could see Chaos Baraka, Chaos Liu Kang and such
Endless Armageddon will soon commence. Immortal Kombat is the new law.
I’m hoping there’s a Expansion Story in the Future to see how Dangerous Havik is as a Titan and to get hints on how Dairou created the Mental of Havik.
It was data mined that there's gonna be a story expansion
Ed boon just did an interview ever he said they would be adding more story
I’m Fully Aware of This, all I’m saying is that Havik needs more Exploration.
@@stevebrown985pretty sure he said it was possibility not that it was guaranteed.
I would like 2 dlc stories before we move on to their next project
I think Titan Havic is the same Havic that Shang Tsung references in Aftermath. Remember that the reference is made after Shang sends Geras to the Chaos Realm. It is likely through possible outcome of Havic meeting Geras that allows him to achieve his own timeline from the events of MK11.
This ^ everyone else says he’s the one we played as in Armageddon but I believe this. Armageddon and Mk1 have a whole timeline between them, it makes since that titan Havik would be from the most recent timeline (9-11)
The dude literally is the main antagonist of Mortal Kombat X comics, those are canon yet he says on the video that Havik never appeared between 9 and 11 😅
This is what I’ve been saying, it’s right before they invade chaos and OrderRealm in the end of Shangs aftermath ending. I’m guessing Havik defeats shang, takes the hourglass then runs his timeline concurrently with Shangs and Liu Kangs, making all of them unbeknownst to one another.
@@0AFonseca that’s because the exact events in the comics can’t always be taken as canon because some were retconned in 11. Tho I believe Havik is part of the canon
@@0AFonsecaI came here to write exactly this.
I hope they add Hotaru to the game. This can reintroduce us to the feud they have and it can give Havik character development.
Hotaru and cyrax (playable) are the two characters I'm looking forward to seeing
What if this version of Havik is Hotaru and he has Dissociative Identity Disorder? He does wear green like Hotaru and this timeline seems to think everyone is interchangeable.
@@GreenPhoenix91has a long ponytail too
@@GreenPhoenix91 I think you're on to something. I can see that being a possibility in the story.
I'm confident Hotaru will be a future DLC character. They brought back Havik, even Darrius who I certainly didn't expect but am happy to see again, so I'm pretty sure the Orderrealm zealot isn't far behind.
Let's just hope that he doesn't get sidelines and/or downright forgotten about in the next Mortal Kombat game. If there's one thing that annoys me is when a post-credit scene teases an upcoming event in a future installment, only for them to do nothing with it later on.
It's kinda like how Mortal Kombat X teased the idea of Dark Raiden being the main antagonist in the next game, only to replace, and erase, him a good ten minutes in the next game (I.E. Mortal Kombat 11).
I absolutely agree and hate when they do that, its such a huge and unnecessary hype killer for the story
Also in mk11 with how they teased the great Kung Lao only to mention him maybe twice I'm mk1. Dis some bullshit.
I think that’s why they “rebooted” the game. The old games/timeline started getting intricate and messy. They wanted to restart it with an actual plan.
I also think they’re going to do a DLC to continue with Titan Havik
@@RebelRebel01 The ending to this game is the messiest MK has ever been. With the multiverse, they made it so they can make whatever happen without having any real explanation behind it.
@@pggalantdWhat’s with every form of media wanting to do a multiverse plot these days?
My first thought was that Titan Havik was from MK Armageddon. In his ending, Havik used Blaze's power to warp and distort the realms, and presumably its people. Given Havik's whisper-like voice, his dead eyes, and his morningstar, it was enough evidence for me. I'm probably wrong, but it's still a fun though. Hell, imagine if all the mishmashed characters that show up during MK1's finale were actually chaotic amalgamations provided by Havik.
i would like these characters to be from the original timeline during Armageddon, imagine not only dealing with Titans who got the hourglass but ones who beat Blaze and got his power.
@@TheGeckoNinja Meaning an all-powerful Shao Kahn exists, or a Dark Raiden. The possibilities are endless.
The mishmashed characters could also be a nod to the Kreate a Fighter mode.
@@Kingcj2001there was literally a dark raiden titans from mk11 on the other team
I like this theory. It would explain the crazy combinations of characters we saw if it was Titan Havik from the OG Armageddon time-line who supplied the troops.
Havik loves chaos after all. That would mean all the other endings from OG Armageddon could also exist now
I'm happy my boy Havik got a major glow up to be the next big bad. So much potential there for the messenger of Chaos.
In Deception's Konquest it is implied that Havik is a guard from Seito named Pod Lazek who got crazy over time and lost his memories
I love the fact that it’s not Mortal Kombat for a merger of realms as per the Elder Gods, but the titans have it to where it’s Mortal Kombat for a merger of timelines. Seeing all the different versions and combinations for Johnny and Kung Lao we fought in the end, makes you kinda wonder just before the end of the game, and after he found out about the other timelines, how many Shang Tsung actually conquered
Likely for the next game it will be a merger of MK universes instead timelines. All timelines of the One Being will join forces against the other universe of alternate MK where Liu Kang is a woman, Jax married Sonya, and Johnny Cage is a panhandler instead of a movie star.
@@VOAN I feel titans are a higher threat than gods such as shinnok or Onaga or the one being. So a merger of timelines would bring a bigger threat than The One Being or Onaga.
It’s just lame, multiverse and timelines are just lazy because there’s no stakes and no need to develop anything. You can just pluck whatever you need at any point in time and just say oh this clone is so exactly similar to our own that it fits.
@@tyx8898I feel like the one being is worse than the titans hell he could be a Titan
@@VOANIdk man I saw Battle of the Realms, the One Being ain't all that
The four horsemen of the Apocalypse, the apocalypse being the Dragon King Onaga
I was shocked to see Titan Havik, that was a huge swerve in my opinion. Seeing a mishmash of characters like Quantum Chi and such, the whole game is awesome.
Yeah I noticed that it looks amazing!!!!!!
I still do not know how to feel about Quan-Zero
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 to be fair, instead of doing the same copy and paste, some character swaps or mixtures has its advantages and disadvantages, it all depends on the player, I’m no game developer but I do have some mixed feelings on certain characters like mixing Sonya with Kano’s eye piece but we’re all have our opinions and everyone is entitled to them
@@henkaistudio I know right? I’m still trying to process on seeing Kenshi with a Mohawk and Tanya with Kitana’s fan blades
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 Wrong, it's Sub-Chi
When I think of Havik, I think of the blood code concept and the Kamidogu.
I think the most terrifying thing about this, is that this Havik is most likely THE HAVIK OF CHAOSREALM, not like Dairou Order Realm Havik in the main story.
Yep, this is Deception Havik.
@@DonYoGi8331nope, this is Mortal Kombat X comics Havik
@@0AFonseca either way that's still the same one i mentioned😂😂. Yes I know the MKX comics are canon.
@@DonYoGi8331 Mortal Kombat X Havik is not the same as Deception Havik... Deception Havik died like everyone else on the Armageddon pyramid, the timeline was rebooted, Mortal Kombat 9 through 11 characters aren't the same as Deception ones.
@@0AFonseca the Cleric of Chaos is the original Havik😑....which is who u saw in the post credits scene.
While I wished Havik was the main big bad in MK1 I really want a grounded story with Lord Havik as a villain, that while poses a threat, isn't another multiversal threat.
Maybe Havik can bring about chaos by trying to establish chaosrealm or something, and that very act requires some great conflict to occur.
I'm more scared of *Titan ONAGA* than titan havik. He was mentioned in Liu & Geras' intro dialogues.
Havik may be less of a puncher but worse as Onaga could be killed, Havik is completely immortal even being not Titan, as he can regrow his head and molecular level, Onaga can be hard to kill with his skin but he can die regularly. Titanic Onaga needs another Titan to kill him. Havik can't be killed even in his human form, Titan form is worse bc humans can't harm him at all while Titans only stop. Just like Geras he only can be slowed
@@Eric_Nomad_Hixtonebeing able to regenerate doesn't mean he's unlikable
It doesn't even have to be physical injury
Shang tsung can suck his soul for example
@@Eric_Nomad_HixtoneFax
Normal havik is already op
Now imagine a titan havik
@@ashoush85havik isnt dumb
Shang need some time to do it
Havik is a fucking beast
@@Eric_Nomad_HixtoneOnaga still recks him stop
I feel like this timelines “Chaosrealmers” will be randomized/chaotic versions of characters almost like the Bizarro of the DC universe.
I could be wrong, clearly, but I honestly believe the MK1 story is a more expanded version of that rumored Aftermath 2 that was said was coming for MK11. MK1 actually connects pretty well with MK11's story and I could honestly see MK11 ending with a Titan Havik cliffhanger and MK1 could've been about Titan Havik. I hope we see some news about a story expansion soon! Probably in the new year.
It just means we should hope for a story DLC....I think it will explain the creation of the chaos realm, with its ruler Havik. If such a DLC will come, NRS really should include Hotaru too. Anyway, the original Havik is one of the most interesting characters with much potential, so I hope NRS will reall focus on him and his allies in upcoming DLC. Same goes for Lin Kuai DLC, where Bi-Han turns into Noob, Scorpion into the new grandmaster/Sub Zero and Hanzo becoming the new Sorpion.
His allies are just some random CAC (create-a-creator ala Armageddon). If Havik wants to be the main villain then he had to wait in line right behind Onaga, Shao, Shang Tsung, Shinnok, and Quan Chi.
Boon already said hotaru ain't coming back. Bro getting the hsu hao treatment
@@trappestarrgaming3422he always bullshits us lets be real here
Scorpion is still scorpion and apart of the shirai ryu while someone else takes over the Lin kuei leadership
I think you're right, havoc. And the other 3 are the 4 horsemen. But I think Onaga is going to be the final Boss
Same. Nothing more OP than a Titan Onaga
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I also do like how Titan Havik looks, it's like they took Mayan or Inca culture and created this, especially how the pyramid looks like a actual ziggurat pyramid, like how the Mayans and Inca built theirs, as well as Sumerian and Babylonian culture, too. And probably to keep on that idea, maybe we'll see Kotal in the future cuz of his Osh-Tekk heritage, and how Osh-Tekk is literally derived from Mayan culture, plus we can't just gloss over how in the Johnny Cage storyline, we literally get a whole "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" reference, which is more Hindu related than Mayan, but they'll probably just morph it into something.
How did Havok become a titan? Wouldn’t he have to have been in MK11 to have his own timeline?
Literally everyone is a titan now. MK went full throttle on the timelines stuff unfortunately.
His land is probably like Dark Souls
Every character in mortal kombat have a chance become titan in event mk11!!! I wanna see Titan Kung Lao meet kung lao in this timeline!!
Its like another thing how was kano a titan literally sonya killed him twice literally
He was in the MK Comics of the series so it wouldn't surprise me if he was actually running around during MK11
Looks like Titan Havik is from the original timeline and I'm kinda hoping they make an expansion story just like what they did with 11.
So Titan Havik is the Havik we know from Deception, while MK1 Havik is originally Dairou, and Titans Kung Lao, Raiden, Kitana are the ones from MK11..... honestly I like this
All Mortal Kombat 1 arcade endings are now canon now and it’s great.
I do think it’s kinda weird that they have Sub Zero Quan Chi as one of his minions, I think it would’ve made a little sense if it was Noob.
Yeah there's plenty of people that could've been used that we saw nothing of like the black dragon, Noob, we knew Darrius was already a side kick for him.
Remember in Shang Tsung ending in mK11 aftermath. When Shang Tsung conquerored the timeline he made Raiden and Fujin his herald they said earth realm, outworld and netherrealm all conquered. Per your command order realm and chaoss realm is next. Which means on screen the chaos realm that contained Havik was not yet said to be conquerored maybe he is the Havik from the main canon.
Imagine if this is the Havik from the Joker's ending in Mortal Kombat 11. Wouldn't it fit the chaotic energy?
the chaos realm does already exist in liu kangs new era, In invasions we literally go through the chaos realm to open chests
I think the end credit scene is a hint to another game or game mode...much like the orginal MK Ameggendon .. there will be a create ( or blend) a character options...much like the cannon fodder you fight in this final story arc....
I truly enjoy both your knowledge of the MK lore throughout the different mediums and your deep dives into the future storyline. Also caught your color commentary and announcing at Viennality. Great job!
I think its going to be more brutal in the DLC with Lord Havik. He looks scary asf.
Those character combos, man. LOVED THEM!!!
For every Titan character that won, isn't there a Kronika that beat them? There isn’t 2 endings for 11, there's 3 if we think of Kronika's victory as one.
I don’t know how to feel about titan havik as the new villain for the mortal kombat universe but I am intrigue on where he’s going to go with his story for mortal kombat 2.
It leaked that he will be the story expansion not MK2 thankfully
@@ParaplegicKeanuReeves wait what really that's interesting
Seems like they're setting up for Onaga for MK2
@@Daph580 oh I certainly hope so I really do but we shall see.
@@Daph580tbf we said that about this one as well 😅
We do have a tie in from mk11 that could tie in the timeline mystery! Shang tsung sent geras to chaosrealm to prevent him from reassembling in aftermath. So havik does get a mention that ties him into the new timeline
Good ideas since it seems like he feeds off the fighting he could be looked at as an Aries type of titan. The 4 horseman could be a setup to a long drawn out timeline with the last battle as the apocolips but this time it would be saving one timeline while the others are destroyed right now the doors are locked but they could be opened again can’t wait for the DLC fighters and story extensions.
Titan Havik could be very interesting as the main villain (MK13), imagine relishing the Chaos all over the realms, Liu Kang needs to gather more champions (Sonya, Jax, Kung Lao, Kenshi, Johnny Cage, Kitana, Raiden, Ashrah, Baraka, Mileena, Reptile, Scorpion, Smoke, Stryker, Li Mei) in order to defeat Titan Havik & his minions (Sub-Zero/Quan Chi, Tanya/Kitana, Kenshi/Reiko, etc.)
Titan havok looks like hes got kotals powers seeing as in his timeline looks like characters are amalgamations like sub quan chi & kitana tanya
I would love for this to be continued in a future story expansion with how good aftermath did during Covid. When I seen Havik dawning this armor I was like 😮 I that skin in GAME ! How can I get it ?!?. I do hope they incorporate that variant of him in the in game market place.
The 4 horseman Conquest-War-Famine and Death. Titan Havik representing Conquest or Death doesn't work because chaos doesn't want conclusion or stability, War would suit him but he should be wearing red and wielding a sword. Reishi/Kenko is unified with his ancestors on Kenshi this one would have to be good at turning people against each other with telepathy but as Reiko he'll be a general. Kitanya could represent Famine or Death due to the concept of Ninja depleting enemy resources and her diplomatic skills might allow her the chance to wreck economies. Quanzero could also be famine due to wearing black and the character being a schemer, he could also be war due to his manipulation of the dead and turning them against the living, he could represent death since in the original tmeline he's a mass murderer. They could also be a twisted alternate take of the 4 symbols from Chinese myth T.Havik or Quanzero being Genbu, Reishi being Suzaku, Kitanya or T.Havik being Seiryu or Quanzero or Kitanya being Byakko. Or maybe they could be the 4 heavenly kings, the 4 humors, the 4 Evangelists or the 4 elements. Whatever it is I intend to find out.
Everyone standing there with havik is a (chaotic) mashup like the ones we fought at the end! Chaos is coming my friends!
Finally Havik getting some love. Let there be Chaos! Loved this dude since Deception
I could see this havik either killing the current havik because he sees him as a disgrace or absorbs him fusing together
And come on nrs bring back hotaru this the perfect opportunity
I’m absolutely loving this channel. Please keep up all the amazing work! That being said, is there any chance you’ll do a history of night wolf?
I'm glad they're FINALLY moving into a new main villain.
Me too, beyond past due
Bro the last game had a new main villian
@@Jl-qg5xz They just hate Kronika bro.
Thanks for the correction. I saw the first video and was puzzled by the comment of them all being Titans.
Can't wait to see Titan Havik in action the next story be that DLC or main game!
I'll be honest I wish we got Titan Johnny Cage. We could even see him with the green energy again.
when the three johnnys fight goro at armageddon, one of the johnnys throws a green forceball so there’s that
Going by your Havik idea, maybe Titan Havik boosted Rain's powers secretly, in order to destroy Seidou?
Id like to think the Chaosrealm is outside of any timeline.. for example in Greek Mythology before the universe there was only chaos sort of thing.. Therefore THIS Havik could be the OG Havik from the 3d Era, watching everything unfold from the outside.. everything from the reboot to Kronikas defeat.. waiting for his time to strike
What if that havik is the same one shang mentioned in aftermath? Shang sent geras to chaos realm. Two immortals fighting... what if geras gave him those scars?🤷♂️
7:11 No, because in the old cannon, Havik is the God of chaos. Thus, his desire to release the God of destruction, Shinok. Having desires all chaos.
Seeing him in the ending made some of the people i know refrain from doing a day one purchase on mk1. This game will have a big dlc that will complete the story just like mk11 four years ago.
There is also mention of titan Shao Kahn in Raidens tower ending.
I am little afraid of mortal kombat creators do not know how to deal with timelines and make the game lose itself by creating complex things. So to speak, Liu Kang had restarted all timeline, but for some way titanb shang tsung found parallel one in the previous game to after find exactly the timeline that liu kang was. By the time he found it, he died and then arose another titan to wage a war because he likes chaos.
I have a theory that they’ll bring back kreate-a-fighter.
My evidence being all the fusion characters you fight in the last chapter.
Where did he get confirmation about who is a Titan in the final scene?
Okay yknow what, I love the story even more and the dlc is gonna be dope.
Edit: it’s weird we haven’t gotten a four horsemen like story in MK yet
Isn’t the ending a plot hole, after Titan Shang Tsung’s death Liu Kang said that timeline was done for. The only way this makes sense is if this is the pyramid from Armageddon/the Midway timeline and if that’s the case didn’t Shao Kahn destroy existence after killing Raiden?
I need that skin for my havik right now it’s so badass
The story has a quite interesting unwritten relationship with the concept of fate. It can be seen in ways that even in a timeline where they're created differently by Liu, the characters start drifting towards their originals.
Havik getting faceburned to resemble old Havik is a really cool example of this. As is Mileena getting affected by Tarkata.
These things weren't written in by Liu, but just happened.
Kenshi getting blinded again even had Liu commenting on it.
Liu or Kung Lao better not die again! Look at Sindel... and look at Bi Han becoming "evil"...
Once they went all out on the mutliversal stuff, I entirely lost track of the story. Havik may be the new threat, but can't Liu Kang just build another army of titans to fight again? Since there's endless time lines, there wouldn't be any shortage of recruits.
You said that these Titans are from their tower endings in MK11 and that makes sense. Well for Liu Kang it makes no sense at all, his MK11 tower ending said he defeated the Elder Gods and replaced them with his friends like Kitana, Raiden, King Lao and himself and as we know that didn't happen...
Btw what do you mean that Havik never canonically appeared between 9 and 11? Dude literally is the main antagonist of the X comics, those are canon my guy.
The Four Horsemen could be:
Havik- Chaos
Tanya- Treachery
Kenshi- Wrath
Quan Chi- Greed
I Love the Idea of A Multiverse in Mortal Kombat! Every character is a Titan of they're on Universe with they're own set of all the Characters. That means there's infinite possibilities! Just Imagine Titan Onaga, Titan Shinnok or Titan Shao...
Yeah but then you had Titan Hsu Hao, Titan Drahmin, and Titan Ferra.
@@VOAN Infinite Possibilities
Kind of confusing cuz last time we seen titan Shangs world, it was being destroyed so…how does it work?
Could this being used in the invasion mode or potentially use for the next game?
How? Liu Kang sends you home to your own timeline because "the pyramid" is been destroyed because Shang Tsung died. The only way this is possible is because this a similar timeline where Titan Havik replaced Titan Shang Tsung in the story and won armageddon.
I feel like titan havik will be a season 2 invasion boss, maybe a expansion dlc
havik a villain like in the comic sounds nice.
8:29 Kenshi is wearing Havik's colors. Maybe his 2nd in command and the other 2 are his 3rd in command, since both are wearing blue, which is a royal color.
I love that Kung Lao is one of the titans
So what about titan onaga that was referenced in fight convos between lu kang and geras could we see a team up
Finally i been looking for an explanation for the ending
How do we know that this is DLC story mode, or perhaps next MK game ?
I’m not exactly a fan of opening the doors to Titan characters but I’m more upset that Jack showed up to be in the pyramid scene only to be killed by havik, why was he the one to get clapped by havik man not cool 😪
Also kinda surprise that one of haviks followers wasn’t Darius like mk1 havik
me neither, amongst many fusioned kombatants, they just picked up a memorable character like Jax who was agonying to be miserable murdered.
@@CanalSDRI mean hopefully that was an evil version since he was facing down the stairs... cope I know but honestly both sides were just all fodder from other timelines
If they were going four horsemen .... D'vorah (pestilence), Shao (War), Skarlet? (Famine), Noob Siabot (Death)
This is the 3D era Havik I have no doubt about it The new Havik is Dairou (also 3d era) and so I would hope the next thing is a story expansion going to the realm of order and chaos and exploring Titan Haviks timeline I wouldn't mind playing like a villains only DLC story
i really like your videos about mortal kombat i learn more and get more intrested in the game.
Whatever Titan Havok is planning will be a new mode or story for your custom character. All the variants reminded me of Armageddon. Be cool to see custom fatalities again too
A godlike being whos sole purpose is to cause glorious chaos, and realizes bringing every varient of every great fighter in every timeline causes the most amount of chaos there is. Havik is gonna have a field day creating Endless Armageddon.
It would be amazing if he is the Havik of the original timeline. Imagine Titan Noob Saibot and Havik joining forces. It would be the biggest threat to the realms yet.
It would be funny if they tease Titan Havik in the ending of MK1 as acting cool and such and then MK2 happen and Titan Havik got dropped down to jobber level just like Dark Raiden at the end of MKX going into MK11. Dark Raiden was tease as tough and more evil than the revenants at the end of MKX even bringing the head of Shinnok as a warning but when MK11 happen Dark Raiden became a background character to the Cages and eventually was eliminate from the story altogether.
I hope they do a story expansion dlc like they did with Mk11’s Aftermath dlc
Did anyone else felt like Titan havik was just kinda a weak tease. I love havik have done ever since i was the kid, but even i thought "yeah havik probably isnt the best character to headline his own game or dlc" nrs stop fucking aroind and do onaga already you have teased onaga for 3 games now stop blue balling and commit to a game where onaga is the main villain
Kinda but if it was Onaga it would of been a big tease.
Just give the people what they want onaga NRS can be stubborn for no reason when has havik ever been anything other than an obscure character? That wasn’t the mk x comics I don’t have a problem with him except that he isn’t onaga 🤷🏽♂️ who I hope isn’t a mindless beast since he has to be “tamed”
I know the MKX Comics isnt cannon but what " IF " Titan Havik is The Ideal Fully Immersed in this new era? Where as the havik in the comics was a master genius and destroyer of worlds with blood magic.
I was hoping when Shang sung revealed who is benefactor was, I was hoping it was ONEGA I mean Shang even said meet damshie 😂
I hope they don't save Titan Havik for a sequel. Hope it's a story expansion instead so we can be done with the timeline nonsense.
Tbf it was better than mk 10 and 11
Agreed 💯
From MK 11's roster compared to the current roster of MK1, there is also Titan Rain, Titan Mileena, Titan Sub-Zero (Not Invasion), Titan Scorpion (Invasion), Titan Baraka, Titan Geras and Titan Sindel,
Do we actually have confirmation that he is a titan? Couldn’t he just be a version of havik that was recruited in another confirmed titan’s timeline?
Can’t thank you enough for this video
I’m excited of this new timeline because they’re creating the story with a plan and connecting everything properly
😂😂😂 ok
One of Liu Kangs intros talks about a Titan Onaga. Oh sweet Jesus
I'm not really convinced of the "Four Horsemen" idea as simply because I'm not even convinced there's much stock to put into the featured acolytes with Titan Havik. I'm more under the impression that the only reason why they were even there was to show that there were remnants of the fusion characters under Havik's subordination, giving us a hint as to how Havik plans on conducting chaos in the future. If so, this would help explain why the Armageddon chapter at the end of the game was included, despite seeming excessive as you mentioned in your review video. I think the whole point of that sequence was to instill the very stupid bullshit chaos that we all found it to be. Titan Havik, himself even expresses a desire to recreate that very event "next time".
So, I'm betting that we're going to see this fusion character craziness in some fashion going forward, even if it's not necessarily the specific ones we see in the epilogue.
He low-key looks like peacemaker's father if you burnt his face. Great idea for a Havik skin for when Peacemaker gets released
I,m very curious were there gonna take this I really hope we get Drahmin, Moloch and Meat they all have sooo much potential they all have sick redesigns on Reddit