Will This Mod Change Squad’s Future?
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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Squad Gameplay. Global Escalation Mod. Public match. 50 vs 50.
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00:00 - Discussion of Global Escalation
11:22 - Gameplay
28:01 - Gameplay Results - Ігри
What do you guys think?
I play nothing but GE now tbh
This mod attracts people who see squad mainly as FPS shooter. So teamplay and Communication is nearly non existent. Also the quicker and easier gunplay leads to far shorter encounters. Shorter encounters lead to less communication - its simply not possible to make quick decitions when the gunfigth is very short. All your ideas, making aiming with scopes easier lead to shorter gunfigths in the distance also. I know many people want the game to be easier and smother. But then you loose the gameplay which many of us love. You cant have both. So I hope this mod is not changing squads future, because then I will also stop playing again. There are way better shooter out there to play. But there is only one sholoter who values teamplay more then gunplay.
GE better than vanilla bro..
My only gripe with GE is that a lot of identification of Squad relies on weapon retorts. GE makes a lot of kits be equipped with suppressors and they all use the AS VAL's sound. Most of the time I don't know if there's a firefight happening if I can't identify the enemies gunshots from teammates.
I love GE but I HATE that all the suppressed weapons' use the AS-VAL audio. Like cmon, Middle East Escalation mod made all their own audio for the suppressed weapons', as that mod was released long before the AS-VAL was even in the game. They could have chose to make their own audio for the suppressors, but took the easy way out instead. Like, I dont mind the massiver amount of suppressed weapons, I just wish they had slightly different signatures based on the weapon.
The thing that GE is missing are SL from Vanilla, there's too many squads that have SL that won't use a mic at all or build anything, its just run and gun
Yeah it’s the main problem with the mod - consider joining us on the 7th server because when a lot of good players are on we do get typical high quality matches.
Awesome content!
I’ve been playing on this server for a while now, love the server members and the community within the server
The main difference for me is the teamwork people don’t communicate as much as they would In the servers without the mod and I tried multiple servers with it
I’ve noticed that too - it’s a shame honestly.
It’s almost every modded server. Ppl often play it bc they don’t wanna play with other ppl or justs hoot like in COD. Also the servers are hella infested with Russians and Arabic ppl who TK, Scream, asset waste, don’t communicate and just be scumbags.
Something ive noticed regarding comms on any server is this: If you join a squad and its quiet, be the person to break the silence. Often times people will start communicating, they just need a little push in the right direction :) I do it all the time. Sometimes it might take awhile, maybe you feel like your talking into the ether, but just remember, your teammates CAN hear you regardless. They will hear your callouts, even if they don't respond. Most times it takes a few nudges, but people will use comms you just gotta break the ice lol
Nahhh, when one guy can one tap transfer targets between heads at 400 and clear every target on a two story before i can say "guy 220 second story red roof" then there's no need to even work together @bakenbeans420
Also global escalate also I s super imbalanced vehicle wise. There's so many that people spawn main in two or 3 ma. Squads and just humvee to the fight
Little off topic but there’s a glitch where if u get too close to a tree for cover u get glitched to it and stuck……I’ve died so many times this way and now I fear getting to close to trees because I know I’ll get stuck….anyone else experiencing this….? Great content as always Haebyung!
Honestly I would prefer a middle ground between modded and vanilla ICO changes. I think are possible solution to encouraging team work would be an advanced med system. I was thinking a mix of Tarkov and Arma but that seems like a lot of work. Also it would improve immersion if my character couldn't just get revived after eating a 120 mm HE shell
Love the weapons, but the number of supressors and the ability to avoid suppression by ADS is a real problem. Not only that, but a loud and chaotic firefight is super fun and emmersive. 6/10 from me but they could make these improvements with little trouble.
Played GE for the first time this weekend and I really enjoyed it.
"School" Squad SL'd by "An Actual Fish" made me giggle.
He always names his squad that LOL
As a heli main I now play GE exclusively for several reasons. The first is that the layer/unit voting system means 80-90% of time your team picks an armored unit, meaning a 20 minute spawn timer for the one single chopper. Very few units have choppers that spawn at the start, meaning I have to wait to play and never get to do cool early game drops anywhere, which was a huge part of the fun for me. GE doesn't have the voting system in and it is far superior.
Finally, the biggest reason is the close air support heli. The CAS helicopter in GE recently got updated and is FAR superior to before because now it fires the rockets rapidly out of the rocket pods instead of drip-dripping one at a time from the center of underside of the heli. This means that you can hit with devastating impact on infantry and you can even do 2.5 kilometer nose up CAS with the rockets and hit accurately, I've done it and have clips of it. They balanced it by reducing the amount of rockets it carries, and ever since I've played the CAS it's all I want to do on Squad anymore. When a team is really coordinated and calling in targets, I am constantly running rocket strikes from all kinds of distances and angles and then re-arming at main, it's addictive and adds a layer of strategy and cooperation that isn't there in vanilla. I wish they would CAS into vanilla but I doubt they will.
I don't like it, because it more or less removes the ICO since all sway has been removed as well as the changes you mentioned. Basically it replicates the pre 7.0 gameplay with picture in picture scopes.
I feel like I should try it because I don’t like the ICO recoil or floaty gun mechanics. Maybe that’s just because i’ve been playing since 1.0 … I’m all for suppression but in a FPS game gunplay needs to feel good and vanilla squad doesn’t.
I agree - I’ve been enjoying it but when I return to vanilla it’s always a good feeling like I’m returning home.
Thank you
Are you one of the modders?
This is probably the Project Reality of Squad tbh, except going the other way, but it looks very high quality.
I'm gonna stick with Vanilla, cuz I really love that gameplay, but lots of respect to GE
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팩션 컨셉에 맞게 공수사단이나 VDV같은 곳에 제공된다면, 별다른 팩션튜닝없이 새롭고 역동적인 플레이가 가능할 듯 하네요.
I would absolutely love a mod which goes the other way, bringing back playtest levels of gunplay. In the same spirit, adding night maps, civilians, removing non diegetic maps, compasses and radios, and 2 man crew weapons would make for an unmatched experience.
I would definitely try that - especially the crew served weapons.
I think the compasses and radios are a bit necessary to help people work together, but maybe the map can be more limited instead.
In reality silencers don't increase recoil. They decrease it.
Simply put, you’re right, but it depends.
A suppressor basically acts as a muzzle break, but on gas operated firearms it also increases dwell time, which makes the bolt group recoil backwards faster, which can increase felt recoil. This can be mitigated by adjusting the gun’s gassing, which would negate or even reduce felt recoil.
But the mechanics are there, especially on service rifles which may not have adjustable gas blocks, which was why I suggested it as an idea.
Mod is good however here are my main gripe about the mod. One we have 3 insurgents factions(hezbollahi, Hamas, and AQ insurgents) beside some differences to off some kit gun, vehicles, and TOW options there basic just feel like same faction but with slight variations. If anything Hamas should have more Lat/Hat ammo or give them a stolen IDF with Hamas markings on it. I know it not realistic but it a cool idea at least
Hearing enemy VOIP in GE is cool but the audio should be garbled if the two factions don't speak the same native language. Maybe one player per squad is an "interpreter" and can hear the ungarbled audio and so hear what the nearby enemy is saying.
That would be a cool feature but the red name tag also needs to be removed imo
honestly, like I think this mod started getting good about simply a month before the big ICO update. Ever since I have not played vanilla once. I just can’t do it, for me it’s an opinion, but I cannot stand the vanilla guns and the fact that almost every faction has like no choice of any guns in this I can at least choose usually 2 to 6 guns, depending on what role. I’m using. and I really enjoy the vehicle overhaul too. I mean every vehicle has new weapons and stuff on it and there’s like 1-2 new vehicles per faction too. and they also added proxy chat which squad still has not added and I am so glad that the mod has because it is so freaking fun with it, nothing better then talking shit to the team, or when tou put a IED on a tank and can finally laugh at them
This mod is fantastic
Yeah it is! I love your videos by the way. If you’re on discord we should get in touch.
Hope 7.2 drops soon
Same!
Does anyone know the name of the song used at the beginning of the video?
Here
Damn that was fast!
I have so much more fun in post ICO vanilla squad thanks to the sway/stamina system nerfing individual capability, forcing people to buddy up and play with the squad to have concistent success in firefights. The character of the playerbase of GE is... definitely less oriented toward teamwork, at least in my experience on the 7th servers. I love nearly every single ico change, and I just want more development overall. The blurred peripheral is for sure dissonant with the immersive updates and frankly unnecessary, especially if a clear periphery was implemented by devs in a way synergetic with the other blur and shake effects rather than pasted over as the GE implementation feels. A big part of the suspense that would build in like modded arma was dirt and craks splaying your goggles or fucking up your eyes, and the presence of a similar impact in squad is very appreciated. I would like a physically simulated or at least physiologically inspired shake/sway system around the cheek/shoulder welds - with a suppression system to degrade that value, or each independently. Your scope being knocked out of alignment is perfectly reasonable when a spray of .50 kicks up the dirt in front of you. As it would be too for the gunstock to dislodge from your shoulder when moving towards someone shooting at you close in full automatic. At least in my opinion, and feels better in a game.
I appreciate you acknowledging the conflict when mentioning the IDF. Theres far too much complacency if not full simpage in the community when handling very inhuman subjects. Its best to consume media a little critically even when you're chillin.
I just hope we can retain the vanilla like conscripty/line infantry feeling experience and enjoy the operator vibe and capability in mods like this, especially when the queues are full.
Perosnal opinon: I really don't understandthe whole ADS drama. like seriously, do explain it to me. cause in my mind it's there to replicate tunnel vision when you aim. Plus, I find that forcing the solution by sacrificing supression just hinders gameplay, since supression has 0 effect when players are the most accurate, it almost entierly defeats the point of supression ingame, since no-one is really scared of the bullets, but of missing. I find the ALT option you made the best solution.
It's a good mod, but it seems to attract people who don't know how to work as a team or squad lead and they just want to play with the cool toys the mod adds.
I exclusively play GE on Squad
It's great (although I prefer vanilla gunplay) but I do not see the supposed "more teamwork effect", lobbies are pretty comparable, except perhaps the busiest servers with 20 long queues (sorry but no.)
Oh, I'll also add that I consider factions, gear and heli changes to be unequivocally positive, including suppressors, as it changes the dynamic in a really fun way.
I also run cans and gucci optics on all my irl guns so it's more familiar lmao
Glad to see this mod as popular as it is, using global escalation is the only way Squad is fun anymore!
MEE was the forefather of GE mod
Somehow the mod has dumber people playing it. I suppose the idea of new toys attracts the worst of the playerbase as I've had some matches with no teamwork or communication at all.
That is the worst of it though. The ico tweaks, the factions that have some polish (some have clearly less love than the others), and the kit loadouts making all roles fun makes it a great experience overall. Not a fan of the cas helicopters though, they don't have enough to be scared of if the opposing team doesn't have an AA vehicle since there are no manpads.
EDIT: I would like to add after hearing 07:48 that if we didn't have a problem playing games with a middle eastern setting fighting insurgents while we were in Afghanistan for 20 years, I don't see how we suddenly are concerned about one depicting more current events.
GE to me is only fun when playing as a proper special forces team with suppressed weapons and super optics. It feels like cheating.
The idea that comes to my mind to solve the "suppressor issue" is in the vanilla game, to start introducing a currency earned just by playing the game, and with that currency, you should be able to buy accessories for the guns on each faction and class and mod the weapon the way you want but still limited by kit
What I mean is for example, the rifleman in usa factions has m4 m16 and m27 lets say, so all people comes with the base naked weapon, but then you can buy accessories to the m4 if you like it more or for the m16 etc... and then during the preparation phase just equip what you want, one game you will be fighting for far away because of the layout, then equip a long scope, one game will be more cqb then equip a reflex, or nothing at all if you dont like, and same for grips, muzzles/supressors etc.. and kinda balance the accessories only so if you want to use a supressor and a grip lets say, you lose a bit of stamina and movement speed while running, and you get tired faster while aiming etc...
I fell that would give the vanilla game a much better feeling of being part of a "militar" game, because in my case i only play GE because of the weapons to be honest, like i dont like the shitty vanilla scopes and guns that there are, i feel that im just getting scammed, when im playing with the vdv and the only shit i have is a scope that cannot even tell where my shots are going
The kits are supposed to reflect standard issue equipment - some being better some being worse - while also balancing for gameplay purposes so this customization feature wouldn’t fit the base game very well.
First, this is a game, it's true that it has to maintain the "realism" but without ruining the fun, because what would be the point then? Second in different branches of different armies, there's the base equipment true, but in those branches and more in powerful armies such as usa, russia, israel etc... there's customization, if you see deploys of seals, marines etc... you can see that in the same squad there's people with different attachments, and sometimes people with the same things, i'm not saying give the insurgents full moded ak and m4, no cause thats not the point of the insurgents, but give the russians or usa or china better attachment, and not the case that in the vanilla game the irregular force militias have better attachments and equipment that the actual russian army@@HaebyungDance
I don’t think it’s much to do with realism, because the kit system is very unrealistic and exists precisely for gameplay reasons. At the same time regular units like those portrayed in the game tend to have set TTPs for equipment layout, and usually aren’t the cutting edge of Gucci gear like SOF.
I dont think many Squad players would be open to this type of loadout customization.
My point is that whenever you play this type of realistic game, you don't want to feel like cheap shit, and less when you're using factions that are supposed to be the top militaries in the world, when you're playing this kind of game you want to feel kinda "the realism" and being a bad ass at the same time, in anyplace that you will see people playing airsoft, doing military re enacments you will see people with attachments if they can afford it, and with "badass gear" like fully modded ar15 platforms, nice side arms, nice outfit etc... because the point is the feeling and having fun, no one wants to suffer with shitty iron sights and shitty weapons@@HaebyungDance
personally i don't like GE. It's like the game before ICO but with picture-in-picture scopes. That's probably an oversimplification, but certainly feels like that. Also, i can't get consistent teamwork on modded servers.
I would absolutely argue that GE is a upgrade from vanilla. The ICO tweak on GE mod is the perfect balance between what Squad was before ICO, and is now. I actually haven't touched vanilla since this mod dropped. Im just gonna say, im not a fan of any of the blurring you mentioned. The game is way more enjoyable with out it. But I certainly agree on the para drops. Its ridiculous how anyone can just hop in a chopper and jump out over a raging battlefield. Takes away immersion in my opinion. Plus helis are already extremely valuable for placing attack fobs etc etc etc. Now with the para drops, a pilot can fly over, drop his guys, let them clear the ground and set security, then land to supply the fob. It just makes it less likely for the heli to be ambushed while landing, which is an integral part of defense in vanilla. Defenders are always looking for helis about to land to ambush them.
Yeah dude and that’s good that you’ve enjoyed it. I think it comes down to personal preference because I’m one of those masochists that ultimately prefers vanilla mechanics
To be fair, I do go back and fourth a lot. Like, once I get tired of GE Ill hop back into vanilla. Sometimes I'm impatient and just wanna get into action, other times I prefer the punishment lol I go through cycles lol@@HaebyungDance
THey build these huge cancerous looking sandbag lines on top of one another and it just ruins immersion and just ugly as hell thats how i feel
for suppressors, it should be an issue of having to replace it. Which should be pretty expensive, as expensive as a grenade. It should burn out after a few shots
I don’t know of any modern suppressors in frontline use that burn out in the timeframe of an entire Squad match much less a few shots.
Not realistic tho. Read my above comments on them based on real-world suppressors.
The game attempts to be a sim and it's not set in 1960s with soviet rubber washer cans...
That not how suppressors work lol
In the real world, suppressors slow down the velocity of bullets. So they have less range, quicker bullet drop, and less penetration at longer ranges. These are real-world physics that could be implemented into the game to balance things out.
That's a gaming trope not real world. In fact in some cases they actually increase the exit velocity lol
@Sk0lzky is correct - not sure where the idea that suppressors slow bullets came from
@@HaebyungDance I mean, the trope is correct in the one specific example of the MP5 SD but that isn't exactly a normal suppressor.
As to where the trope came from, probably entirely a game balancing idea from casual shooters, who are more concerned with balance than 'realism'.
It just spread over into peoples minds in the real world because a good portion of the population have a hard time separating fiction from reality.
Buddy that's video game logic not irl
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