So good to know about practising mutes... I didn't know that I could buy one for practising, now I've come back to the violin after 40 years! I don't sound very fluent & I don't want to annoy my neighbours! You're such a joy to be able to learn things off, please know you are dearly appreciated 💐
I have a ultra practice mute. And i play with it most of the time. And since i am a beginner and i sound horrible. I dont want my neighbors knocking at my door. And the violin is very loud to my ears. But i do get suprised by the volume if i dont have the mute on.
Do you have an Instagram or FB page we can follow? Aliane here by the way Joy, 🙂 I'm a total beginner in violin playing but I do want to learn and I hope its never too late yet. Your talk is sooo inspiring about aspiring violinist
Hi Aliane, Welcome to violin world!! And do not worry, it's never too late. With commitment and persistence you will experience many beautiful things. There is a Face group you are most welcome to join. Hope to see you there Aliane! The name of the face book group is "JOY LEE VIOLINIST COMMUNITY"
Yay! 😍 I've never found a video is you which wasn't Vitally useful for me. Beginner Violinist 🥰 Practicing a Lot! Thank you so much for your amazing Instructions.
I like the first mute on. Violin don't reverberate so much when it's muted, sounds so clean :) Second mute is very very muted more practical, but doesn't sound so good :)
A very good presentation! With violin I started two months ago and since a few weeks I use the metal mute. Really a very good one to play even nighttime!
As a beginner a mute would allow me to practice bow technique at any time ? this surely is a good reason to use mute when neighbours can be an issue. In the daytime hours I can play normal acoustic sound .. great information in your video :),...thanks..
I practice with my electric violin. Silent and you can listen through your heaphones with live effects. I play late at night tho, when everyone is sleeping. Go 'Electric' if you want silent practice.
Good morning Ms. Joy, I did not know such things a 'mute'..... existed? Learn something intelligent and useful all the time on your channel, thank you. I feel I am disturbing my neighbors with practice, however, they do not say nothing they probably think its my radio sound of classical music or such since , I do not have a television period do not have time busy with other studies. Also, other disturbing noising are around that are not so 'aesthetic', you know? So thanks I am going to purchased one as soon as possible. Have a good week.
I work in a Power Plant as a Power Engineer (Operating Engineer in the states). We have to have our hearing tested annually. The technician who tested my hearing asked if I was a hunter because my left ear is a bit weaker than my right ear. It didn't dawn on me right away but I though about it later. My hearing is very good for my age - I am 48 - but I think playing the high notes, especially when your strings get old and start to sound a bit shrill cause hearing to deteriorate in a violinist's left ear. I was wondering if there is an esthetic ear plug or something similar for the left ear only. If that were the case, one could still hear well with the right ear but protect one's hearing in the left ear.
Hi Trevor, there is a custom made special ear plugs for orchestral musicians which reduces its volume while allowing the musicians to be able to hear. For me this was too much reduction of the sound to play well in ensemble, but you might be interested to try it. Happy violin playing!
My metal muter (like the one in the video) never fits 🤷. It always slides down when I start playing. Not sure how to mount it on the bridge? Someone help me out!!!
Dear Rucha, You might have to tap the mute onto the bridge very gently after placing. Basically the mute has to hold a part of the bridge in order to reduce the sound. I wish you all the best. Happy trying!
Ady Santana haha I have to use mine often because I live in an apartment building but sometimes I play without it and it’s so projecting it startles me a bit too lol
Thank you for your work!! :) I sound so terribe that I will go back to a practice mute otherwise I will not practice at all because I am so heartbroken about my sound. But my bridge was made very thin . Do you think this will be a problem for the mute? which one would you recomment? I would be very happy for a link. I don´t know for exampe what is better rubber or metal. Maybe I am lucky and you have the time. :)
Dear Joani, your thin bridge should not be much issue with using any mute as thinner bridge make it easier to place the mute on. The metal mute I am showing in this video reduces the sound the most, but there is also a mute made of rubber which looks just like the metal one and reduces the sound quite well also. I hope you can try. Happy practising!
I have a rubber practice mute for my violin and also my viola.. I find that I get pretty good attenuation on the violin, considering it’s a practice mute, but on the viola, its larger mute only deepens the sound a little. I’m not sure if it’s slightly oversized, if the rubber material is different, or if that type a mute dampens higher frequencies better. Does anybody have any similar experiences or thoughts on this? I purchased rubber practice mutes at Musician’s Friend specifically made for full size violin and viola.
I have a couple of different rubber mutes that entirely cover the bridge, some are hard rubber, some are sort, some are sort hollow rubber. I think the fairly hard rubber ones give you the most options because you can press it down for very quiet, or perch it above for just a bit less loud. I do notice that with the rubber mutes it can often be hard to catch and vibrate the E string, whereas without the mute I can catch it easily most of the time. My hard rubber mutes I didn't even buy on purpose; it came with the Zone shoulder rest.
I compare a mute to playing "pp" or "ppp" without the mute + some mellower tone. I don't use a mute mainly because I want to train my bow arm to control my bow distribution to intentionally sound almost silent with a few hairs barely touching or putting light pressure on my violin strings. (ex: Prokofiev's classical symphony excerpt) I wonder if that be musically correct if I had to put a mute on every "pp" section?
Dear Fate, it's great that you want to develop your RH bow technique further with extreme piano tone colour. However, using a mute for every "pp" dynamics would not be the correct approach, as the mute should be put on in performance only when the composer indicated as such, and also mute changes the tone colour as well as the volume. Happy practising!
Thanks Bring! Even though I understand the nice part of electric instruments, I find it one could truly master the bow technique with an acoustic instrument.
Hi Jehn, there are many dos and dont's in violin playing. Here is one of them. I hope this helps. Happy violin playing! ua-cam.com/video/ZGw5KTs3trs/v-deo.html
mutes cut down the sonic noise travel ( as not to annoy neighbours ,until you can string a few notes together ) like target shooting in your apartment without a silencer , i would need a mute like a tractor tyre for my annoying antagonisms by string !
Hi Joy! When I use my metal practice mute, it changes the pitch of my strings. They go flat about .5 herz to 1 herz. The G and D are affected the most, the E hardly noticeable. Does anyone else notice this? I guess the mute restricts the forward and back vibrations of the bridge. What else could be causing this???
Hello, and thank you so much for your great videos! I have one question: it seems to me that even playing with the metal mute still makes the violin sound relatively loud, and I am always afraid of disturbing my neighbours. Is there a way to reduce the sound even more (perhaps by adding a second mute on top of the metal one)? Thank you!
The metal mute is the strongest mute in the market currently in my knowledge. Try to press the metral mute down enough on the bridge carefully . I hope this would help. Happy practising nevertheless!!
Hi Joy! Can you please make a video on how to play bachs double violin concerto in d minor the second violin I've just stared working on it and there's a section where's lots of string crossing going on and it would be really helpful if you could make one for me! 🎻🎻❤️🙏
I bought some Tourte mutes and couldn't figure how to put them on; the reason I was perplexed was that the factory did not cut slits for the strings. Grrr. You get what you pay for.
Using vibrato is up to the violinist. Some times in an orchestra a conductor might ask musicians to vibrate in a certain way or not to vibrate. But most of the times, musicians are free to vibrate as they would like. In general vibrating on long notes is highly encouraged. I hope this answers your question.
Most people tend to put the mute on the middle strings such as the D and A strings. But if you want a specific string to be muted more, you could put on that specific string. Happy violin playing!
Using the mute for a long time would not damage the strings. However having an extra weight from the mute on the bridge and the violin is not very ideal as they are made of a thin wood. It would be better to take it off whenever possible. Happy music making!
We have to make sure the mute is sitting well and pressed gently downward low enough, then the mute should stay well without much trouble. Happy violin playing!
So good to know about practising mutes... I didn't know that I could buy one for practising, now I've come back to the violin after 40 years! I don't sound very fluent & I don't want to annoy my neighbours! You're such a joy to be able to learn things off, please know you are dearly appreciated 💐
I feel ya! I almost gave up on the violin because the sound is so intense. And especially when you can’t play the violin🤣
So helpful... I live in an apartment building.
I have a ultra practice mute. And i play with it most of the time. And since i am a beginner and i sound horrible. I dont want my neighbors knocking at my door. And the violin is very loud to my ears. But i do get suprised by the volume if i dont have the mute on.
😢you’re seriously my inspiration. Every video you make is literally what I’m going through on mastering my instrument.
You can do it Wisdom! I am sending you my positive energy!! Happy practising!
Omg Joy, thanks for sharing this! I really love the tone you are producing on your violin
Thank you so much also Kaleido!
Do you have an Instagram or FB page we can follow? Aliane here by the way Joy, 🙂 I'm a total beginner in violin playing but I do want to learn and I hope its never too late yet. Your talk is sooo inspiring about aspiring violinist
Hi Aliane, Welcome to violin world!! And do not worry, it's never too late. With commitment and persistence you will experience many beautiful things. There is a Face group you are most welcome to join. Hope to see you there Aliane! The name of the face book group is "JOY LEE VIOLINIST COMMUNITY"
Yay! 😍 I've never found a video is you which wasn't Vitally useful for me. Beginner Violinist 🥰 Practicing a Lot!
Thank you so much for your amazing Instructions.
You're so welcome Atharvan!
I like the first mute on. Violin don't reverberate so much when it's muted, sounds so clean :) Second mute is very very muted more practical, but doesn't sound so good :)
Good to know!
A very good presentation! With violin I started two months ago and since a few weeks I use the metal mute. Really a very good one to play even nighttime!
Thank you also Mi La Do!
Hi Joy! Your explanations are the best! Thank you.
I use magnets on either sides of the bridge, works great and doesn't restrict your view of the strings.
As a beginner a mute would allow me to practice bow technique at any time ? this surely is a good reason to use mute when neighbours can be an issue. In the daytime hours I can play normal acoustic sound .. great information in your video :),...thanks..
Thank you for demonstrating the tourte mute, and the metal. I had a metal one, but lost it, so bought the rubber one. I liked my metal one better.
I practice with my electric violin. Silent and you can listen through your heaphones with live effects. I play late at night tho, when everyone is sleeping. Go 'Electric' if you want silent practice.
Headphones on my electric with eq. Great for late night practice. I jam along with utube stuff.
which electric violin did u get, i wanted to get one but dont know which to buy.
@@udontknow6314 Yamaha makes one. it has to have a built in pre amp to be able to play with head phones
would you say it's helpful in improving your technique on the acoustic or is it completely different to play? like the fingerpressure etc.
which one do your use?
Thank you Joy ! Wonderful as always
Nice explanation.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you Jim!
Ohh thank you! I needed this! And also you look very beautiful
Dear Anna, I am glad to hear that my videos are helpful in your violin study and also thank you for your kind comment. Happy practising!
thank you very much for the good lessons!
You're most welcome Christian! Thanks as well!
Good morning Ms. Joy, I did not know such things a 'mute'..... existed?
Learn something intelligent and useful all the time on your channel, thank you. I feel I am disturbing my neighbors with practice, however, they do not say nothing they probably think its my radio sound of classical music or such since , I do not have a television period do not have time busy with other studies. Also, other disturbing noising are around that are not so 'aesthetic', you know? So thanks I am going to purchased one as soon as possible. Have a good week.
Very useful Video.Thank you so much.🥰
You are welcome 😊! Thank you also Aneasha!
Thank you!
You're most welcome John!
I love your accents! It's easy to understand 🥰👍
Thank you! 😃
Hi Joy! May I know what violin do you use in this video? Thankyou! Your vids are so helpful, as always!!✨
Thanks joy your the best❤️🙏
You are so kind! Thank you very much Tiktok!
the metal mutes are really good
A very clear and informative video, thank you! I knew almost nothing about mutes so I've been researching them to know what to get
You're very welcome! Thanks also Llama!
I work in a Power Plant as a Power Engineer (Operating Engineer in the states). We have to have our hearing tested annually. The technician who tested my hearing asked if I was a hunter because my left ear is a bit weaker than my right ear. It didn't dawn on me right away but I though about it later. My hearing is very good for my age - I am 48 - but I think playing the high notes, especially when your strings get old and start to sound a bit shrill cause hearing to deteriorate in a violinist's left ear. I was wondering if there is an esthetic ear plug or something similar for the left ear only. If that were the case, one could still hear well with the right ear but protect one's hearing in the left ear.
Hi Trevor, there is a custom made special ear plugs for orchestral musicians which reduces its volume while allowing the musicians to be able to hear. For me this was too much reduction of the sound to play well in ensemble, but you might be interested to try it. Happy violin playing!
My metal muter (like the one in the video) never fits 🤷. It always slides down when I start playing. Not sure how to mount it on the bridge? Someone help me out!!!
Dear Rucha, You might have to tap the mute onto the bridge very gently after placing. Basically the mute has to hold a part of the bridge in order to reduce the sound. I wish you all the best. Happy trying!
Thanks Joy! Let me try again. Thanks
Yes I'm afraid I'm used to the mute! 😖 when I take it off the vibrations of the violin startles me..
Ady Santana haha I have to use mine often because I live in an apartment building but sometimes I play without it and it’s so projecting it startles me a bit too lol
i find i cant hear the ringy tones well with the metal mute- ima beginner level and depend on the ringy notes to get a better intonation
All right I’m gonna try this one more time I’m getting decent attenuation on the violin considering it’s a rubber mute and not a metal mute !!!
Thank you for your work!! :) I sound so terribe that I will go back to a practice mute otherwise I will not practice at all because I am so heartbroken about my sound. But my bridge was made very thin . Do you think this will be a problem for the mute? which one would you recomment? I would be very happy for a link. I don´t know for exampe what is better rubber or metal. Maybe I am lucky and you have the time. :)
Dear Joani, your thin bridge should not be much issue with using any mute as thinner bridge make it easier to place the mute on. The metal mute I am showing in this video reduces the sound the most, but there is also a mute made of rubber which looks just like the metal one and reduces the sound quite well also. I hope you can try. Happy practising!
I have a rubber practice mute for my violin and also my viola..
I find that I get pretty good attenuation on the violin, considering it’s a practice mute, but on the viola, its larger mute only deepens the sound a little.
I’m not sure if it’s slightly oversized, if the rubber material is different, or if that type a mute dampens higher frequencies better. Does anybody have any similar experiences or thoughts on this?
I purchased rubber practice mutes at Musician’s Friend specifically made for
full size violin and viola.
I have a couple of different rubber mutes that entirely cover the bridge, some are hard rubber, some are sort, some are sort hollow rubber. I think the fairly hard rubber ones give you the most options because you can press it down for very quiet, or perch it above for just a bit less loud.
I do notice that with the rubber mutes it can often be hard to catch and vibrate the E string, whereas without the mute I can catch it easily most of the time.
My hard rubber mutes I didn't even buy on purpose; it came with the Zone shoulder rest.
Legends watching it after 2 years
I compare a mute to playing "pp" or "ppp" without the mute + some mellower tone. I don't use a mute mainly because I want to train my bow arm to control my bow distribution to intentionally sound almost silent with a few hairs barely touching or putting light pressure on my violin strings. (ex: Prokofiev's classical symphony excerpt) I wonder if that be musically correct if I had to put a mute on every "pp" section?
Dear Fate, it's great that you want to develop your RH bow technique further with extreme piano tone colour. However, using a mute for every "pp" dynamics would not be the correct approach, as the mute should be put on in performance only when the composer indicated as such, and also mute changes the tone colour as well as the volume. Happy practising!
Lovely Video. Very thorough as always. ❤️ _What are your thoughts on using electric violins for silent practise, or electric violins in general?_
Thanks Bring! Even though I understand the nice part of electric instruments, I find it one could truly master the bow technique with an acoustic instrument.
@@JoyLeeViolin - yeah I get you. My electric hides a lot of my bad technique.....lol. Especially if you throw in effects.. ! Very forgiving. hehe
Joy how could I book a lessons with u
Dear Joselin, for booking private lessons with me, please sen d me an email to "topiaviolins@gmail.com". Thank you.
Hi Joy... im a beginner violin player and i would like to ask if you can make a video for do's and dont's in playing violin
Hi Jehn, there are many dos and dont's in violin playing. Here is one of them. I hope this helps. Happy violin playing! ua-cam.com/video/ZGw5KTs3trs/v-deo.html
mutes cut down the sonic noise travel ( as not to annoy neighbours ,until you can string a few notes together ) like target shooting in your apartment without a silencer , i would need a mute like a tractor tyre for my annoying antagonisms by string !
Hi Joy! When I use my metal practice mute, it changes the pitch of my strings. They go flat about .5 herz to 1 herz. The G and D are affected the most, the E hardly noticeable. Does anyone else notice this? I guess the mute restricts the forward and back vibrations of the bridge. What else could be causing this???
Thanks for sharing Cameron! That's very interesting.
I have found that too! Annoying if you’re playing with others!
same here
I ordered the metal one cause my neighbors and my mum are sick of me already 😂 honestly! It has a very big difference from a rubber one
Thanks x
Hello, and thank you so much for your great videos! I have one question: it seems to me that even playing with the metal mute still makes the violin sound relatively loud, and I am always afraid of disturbing my neighbours. Is there a way to reduce the sound even more (perhaps by adding a second mute on top of the metal one)? Thank you!
The metal mute is the strongest mute in the market currently in my knowledge. Try to press the metral mute down enough on the bridge carefully . I hope this would help. Happy practising nevertheless!!
Electric violin?
try alcantara under bridge ...i dont try it ..but thats sounds working.. alcantara or other materials... gums..or somthing else.. + metal mute..
Hi Joy! Can you please make a video on how to play bachs double violin concerto in d minor the second violin I've just stared working on it and there's a section where's lots of string crossing going on and it would be really helpful if you could make one for me! 🎻🎻❤️🙏
I'll try Nikki :)
Hi Teacher Joy. Heavy mutes should not be used in a performance right? Because the sound is very soft.
Yes, correct Tim. Heavy mutes are only for practising, and the performance mutes are the small ones made of rubber. Happy music making Tim!
Hi joy, can you tell me if metal mute sounds like a eletric violin?
Hi Mateus, a violin with a metal mute will have a strongly reduced volume , not necessarily sounding metallic or electric. Happy violin playing!
@@JoyLeeViolin Thanks Joy :)
Can you do the thing called "What's in my violin case?"
I'll try Jacob :)
I bought some Tourte mutes and couldn't figure how to put them on; the reason I was perplexed was that the factory did not cut slits for the strings. Grrr. You get what you pay for.
Oh no... I hope you found later a working mute. Happy violin practising!
Do you give online lessons?
Yes, I do Timothy. Please send me an email to "topiaviolins@gmail.com" Thank you.
I did not know the violin could be muted
How to know when to use vibrato or not in orchestra music?
Using vibrato is up to the violinist. Some times in an orchestra a conductor might ask musicians to vibrate in a certain way or not to vibrate. But most of the times, musicians are free to vibrate as they would like. In general vibrating on long notes is highly encouraged. I hope this answers your question.
What is the rule for which string the performance mute goes on? Thanks!
Most people tend to put the mute on the middle strings such as the D and A strings. But if you want a specific string to be muted more, you could put on that specific string. Happy violin playing!
Can we use mute for long time? Does it damage strings?
Using the mute for a long time would not damage the strings. However having an extra weight from the mute on the bridge and the violin is not very ideal as they are made of a thin wood. It would be better to take it off whenever possible. Happy music making!
I use a metal violin mute and my darling neighbours are still complaining
Don’t any of them fall off when you’re playing?!
We have to make sure the mute is sitting well and pressed gently downward low enough, then the mute should stay well without much trouble. Happy violin playing!
Thanks for the lesson Joy. I 'v question if you use mute everytime there is not consequences to play rigth note?
With a mute it can be a bit harder to listen to the intonation, but it shouldn't change the pitch much. i hope this helps. happy practicing!
Pretty good attenuation on violin considering it’s ‘’ is what I meant to say
This touchscreen is killing me pretty good attenuation on violin considering it’s not a rubber mute is what I meant to say
Queria que você falasse português ;-;
Eu gostaria de falar portugues tambem :)
Saber falar portugues é lixo, o bagulho agora é google tradutor 😂😂
@@JoyLeeViolin ....,But is good that you speak English, Because then I learn your language
Moral - Do not respond to videos when tired or in a hurry. And for me, I have to add in the morning when I get up !
:)
Gosh ur beautiful😅
Thank you!
Thank you!
You're welcome! Happy practising Karen!