The RuneScape Economy Is CRAZY Currently
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- I talk about the current RuneScape 3 market and economy. The price changes and the current costs of bonds etc.
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player who buy the bonds are the ones responsible for price raising, ie. 3 people list at 100m buy buyer have for 120m insta buy or short buy making price become inflated. or go up ge works on a sliding scale so highest bidder gets first then cascade to lower n lower. so solution is to buy bonds with real money and sell back to ge at 100m will insta lower price within a week. must be 1000s of bonds though to make a impact
I used to pay for membership through bonds when they were only 7mil, I used to earn 1m a day and then use the rest of the remaining days to use my membership for free. I can’t remember when the bonds were lower than 10m, those were the good days 🤣
man I miss 6 mil bonds!
With necromancy, 130m is 2 hours of AoD with sub 100m gear so what are you on about.
@@iirostark hey can you tell me what gear this is? I'd like to try to do this!
@@1jamesreed The Basic t90 deathdealer robes and weapons.
@@iirostark cool, thanks
my bigest sugesstion would be - DONT USE BONDS FOR KEYS... that pushes bond prices up a lot and it is not worth to spend 130m for 14keys to get Combat training dummies..
if you want to take advantage of good TH promos, is to - Save up keys... you can store Up to 100 keys in Th which are gotten by Doing Dailies, quests, daily Log-ins and from boss/mob kills..
and 14 keys dosent get you enough BXP in a skill via Stars.. i think Keys is the biggest waste of bonds because they released a new cosmetic... and chances to get that ''rare'' walk token or smth dosent pay up .. with thosee 0.001% chances..
Good points tbh
The bonds are so high because the supply is very low compared to the demand. There are fewer people buying them with irl money and selling them and then the prices go up. The TH addicted players buy keys directly with real money
Last time I checked you daily keys don't stack
And 3 daily earned keys also gets you nowhere. It’s best to save up keys or buy them with real money instead.
People can use bonds on whatever they want. If they want 14 keys, let them use them?
Can’t afford bonds? Oh well
Gear prices being bottom due to necro just being cheap and good.
People aren't buying bonds to sell, they don't need to.
People are still buying bonds on g.e for members time, and the low supply and high demand is just driving it higher and higher.
The meta is stale, there's no point investing in melee, mage and range (12b+) just to be competitive with necro that is 1.5b
I think the main reason why in game gear is crashing while bonds are skyrocketing is that people are using rs3 gp to member up their osrs accounts. I myself am doing this so ill admit theres bias there but I know a lot of other end game rs3 players have been doing the same thing.
actually i find it easier as an osrs player with just 1250 total levels to get 10m for an osrs bond compared to get a 130m as a maxed rs3 player
thats almost come to a hault though, most sites are full on rs3 gp and will only exchange the other way around
Yeah 10m Osrs is far easier to get than 130m rs3.
3 hours of revs can make you a bond on Osrs but trying to make 45m per hour is pretty end game for rs3
@@hercules5546what?! I’m not even passed the 1500 level struggling to make even a mil an hour in osrs… meanwhile in rs3 I can make incense sticks, necro runecrafting, I can get around 2 zuk runs an hour, 2 minute rasial kills, and 7 minutes on a sub 100 enrage zammy which each can make tons of gp and even croseus mass worlds was making me like 60 mil an hour with the tier 3 troves
Ive done the same thing. I dumped my bank to bond up for OSRS.
when i quit playing they were around 20m , came back a month ago n had the wtf moment when i went to buy some bonds for membership
Offering some time in members for completing quests seems like a decent consistent way to get people playing in members
I am glad that I currently have my 19 bonds + 60m towards the last bond for Premier Club 2025.
I have been following you for some time! I can not say how much I appreciate seeing some one well known in the community saying bonds are not realistic any more for membership. I believe that 70m was pushing it and stoped activly playing once they hit over 40m. It took away the fun for me. I liked to grind skills for gp and that is not good income for the rates. I loved doing div. I would div a hour or two then do what I wanted and I was good to go. I would have enough to slowly upgrade gear and all that too. Now the price is to the point that its not even possible for people like me to enjoy the game any more through bonds. I also suck at pvm so its never really been a option for me. I love the comment make a seperate token for membership. I think that would be the best turn out and hard cap its price at 70m so that it can go down and up for flipping but never over a unrealistic rate for people to enjoy the game.
Its pretty simple.
Less players so less demand for top tier gear.
= PRICE DROP ⬇️📉
Less players so more demand for a few bonds
PRICE INCREASE 📈⬆️
that seems right to me. I recently switched over to osrs again because I play rs3 in morning times in america and theres like less than 12,000 people online thats adds up every world
Less player = less bonds coming into the game. But less player = less demand for bonds. So bonds are suppost to stay on the same price ish. You did it like this for gear but you do it in reverse for bonds... If we realy want to do this then jagex needs to give us the info to do it.
@@jensv874 This would be true if RS3 bonds weren't directly tied to OSRS bonds. There's a demand to play OSRS, player count has risen there for the past year and its continuing to trend upwards so the demand for RS3 bonds remains the same they're just not being used on RS3 as much.
@@justtom350 They are not directly tied. lol.
@@jensv874 also, it's entirely possible that out of the total players leaving the game, most of them are players that pay for membership with real money, but bought bonds for the MTX. As they leave, they would impact the bond economy in the way we are seeing, whilst also impacting the PVM sceme.
I managed to snag one for 123m last night, I feel incredibly fortunate, but boy am I thankful I pay via irl currency.
Mainly osrs player, economy is booming, bots seem to be down. This is likely a direct correlation
yeah, bonds are relatively high there too.
@@carlost856 you see your bots down too?
I hope they come down a bit, I pay for mine and my father's memberships exclusively through my boss killing and specifically right now, Arch Glacor 1 mechanic NM. I can still handle it for now but if they start increasing much more this might become a REALLY big problem.
You could skip one meal per month and pay irl cash, enjoy the game, don’t be a slave just to play it..
Well then youknow its gonna spike even more in the summer...
Yeah I bought like 6 months with bonds back in December for like 80m each and they running out end of this month. And I just think with in-game prices being so bad it might be time for a break... Quality of game has fizzled out, just seems jagex need to look at capping the price of bonds realistically.
Capping them could definitely be a good shout tbh, but I don't think they would. Higher means more sales and also players would likely go ape about them "manipulating prices" even if it was to stop them going up.
@@InitYeah I dont agree bonds were put in a sceme to cause it to be double the price for ingame play to have membership or idealy. though, capping that price will keep those sales going as right now that will cause less people to be buying the bonds for what they were designed for in the first place.
Why would the cap the price? If the price is going up, it means the lower price wasn't enticing enough for people to pay real money. If they cap it, that just means there is no bond supply.
@@evergreenblossom Yea if economics only were that simple...
@@evergreenblossom they are not hurting for money your talking about a multi billion dollar profit company they made plenty before now they just attached more stuff to it ruining the point of the bond for membership now its for everything else making its purpose of being put in usless...thats why it needs to be capped
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I have been saying since long before bonds hit 50m gp that they are an accurate measure of the health of the game. Fewer new players wanting to buy bonds to advance their accounts mean less supply, along with a veteran population most of whom have all if not most 120/200m all so have no need of extra cash for supplies. Add to this that same veteran population actively avoids paying irl cash for anything in the game, including premier membership and you have the perfect storm. The current bond price is just a measure of a declining population and I would expect it to get worse faster as people who have previously been sustaining membership with bonds (most of whom can't afford irl cash) are pushed out of the game because of the current stratospheric and ever-increasing bond price.
I said all this on Reddit a few years ago, and I predicted this exact scenario of ever-increasing prices as the player base declines. This is one of those times when I heartily wish I was wrong.
ive been buying bonds like no tomorrow, great investment with the way things are going. TBH, if more people paid in irl money there would be more supply and it's showing the price in irl is too much per bond
As an economy engineer graduate i must say DAAAAAAAAM BOI
Literally.. this is so, so bad.
@@Pinkyyybrainn Very very bad indeed!
@@Pinkyyybrainn Why is it bad though? No hate just wondering how it impacts the average person?
@@ALISHISNOIUS Depends on the person, but for instance if you use bonds for membership you are less likely to continue playing because of the sheer time investment.
@@christianbarrett3040 Ooooh I see that makes sense I didn't think so many people used them to pay for membership I always figured people bought them for xp or promotions! That makes way more sense now ty and that is rough for anyone who needs them for membership 130m for 14 days is outrageous
Im surprised you didn't touch on 1 key thing- a single rasial weapon drop pays for either 1 month or 6 weeks of membership with bonds. Zammy 100%+ enrage is also easier than ever with necro and ROD.
Even though necro crashed prices for the other styles 6 months ago, accessibility to end game pvm money makers caused gp to be more available than ever.
I was talking to someone today about this. He mention the ease of access and use of necromancy. A lot more people are pvming and doing higher teir pvm. That would lower the prices of drops while making things like bonds go up as GP is easier to get.
I hope your goods come down in price with economies of scale as theyre genuinely great!
If bonds get much more expensive, I'm just going to log off and wait for Brighter Shores.
Lol, what you waiting for? Rs3 is not gonna get better.... I did what you said months ago and I am jsut waiting for brighter shores to release. Im watching movies and stuff to fill up the space. And I have started to do some real life farming.
You guys are so fun to mix with, what is ur clan name?
bonds at all time high. Jagex see 0 problems. Thats why we havent gotten any updates the past 2 weeks.
This works well for them.
I just cashed out my rasial dupes on my Ironman to buy bonds on my main to transfer back to the iron. I bought a few for around 125m each slow buy, but then they started coming in at 123m, 120m. I ended up buying around 50 bonds and progressively was able to buy them lower and lower with patience. Yes I had a lot of rasial dupes lol. 3.2k kc and still missing crown. 6 weapon sets and 23 armor pieces.
I've been saying Bonds were being used for keys for months, and it takes me explaining it but no one has disagreed with me. Keys for bonds matched with the crazy treasure hunter overrides means that some people who have the money to dump into bonds are going to do so instead of paying real cash, leading to demand and prices going up every event. It's crazy to see things like Gconc going for so little, when it used to be a 2 bond drop, and now you can't even get one despite how rare the drop is.
Exactly. The players set the price of items. If the community stands together and decides they aren't going to pay that much we can get the price down. Unfortunately the multiple merch clans also affect the prices
Who would miss out on currency to invest into their character? It's in the player's best interest to jack up the prices of items they already have and strong arm lower prices for stuff they need.
in my opinion. If your account can't upkeep a bond then you don't need a bond. If you can't afford membership. gaming shouldn't be a priority at all. ( life sucks sometimes i know.) To up keep a bond all one needs is 80 in a combat stat with 80 def and 85 dungeoneering to do frosts as a decent method. kill 500 to 1k a day for 14 days takes anywhere from 2 to 4hrs at the 500 a day option you will make 168m in 14 days and if you can do 1k a day that is 336mil every 14 days. ( these numbers are just a rough estimation and not actual )
with those numbers however you make more then enough to get a bond right now. plus you can do all the other side methods on top of that. use left over gp for skills or better gear.
So players should spend their entire two weeks grinding frosts to buy a bond for another two weeks.
@@Kfinch1992 My thoughts exactly
Rasial is a pretty good boss to cover your bond cost. Any of the 7 big drops will pretty much cover the price. 1-2hrs and you should be done. My premier mem runs out next month and this will be my plan for bonds.
I always saw it as an hour of high level PVM is where bonds will sit
With all the bragging I see with necromancy right now wrecking most bosses...this makes perfect sense.
As someone who has no idea what the fuck is going on. DAYUM SON!
Just consider yourself luck that you dont know whats going on.
I think with so many players canceling their memberships and deciding to use in game money instead of irl money, this is why bond prices have skyrocketed. With the lack of content and so many end game players unhappy, it wouldn’t surprise me if people didn’t want to spend real money on the game when gp isn’t hard to come by
That or just pay the small amount of money it takes to be a member. I've never understood the people that refuse to pay anything to play the game. I get not paying to win or buy your gold with bonds, that's being lazy. But saying you refuse to pay a small ass membership fee is absurd. That or get the premium membership for an entire year, its even cheaper if you get it there. My guess those people are just cheap or unemployed, no other excuse for it.
The Roadmap on Tuesday is going to increase the price of bonds to 200m each because it'll be full of MTX.
Nah it's going to be a 2 hr stream of them showing the new rex matriarch coming and probably some short super quest and new mtx that have new training dummies and proteans
Yup @revan1395 going to go into duper detail about some small game development that has about 5 hours of gameplay content
Comments aged like milk. Got to give credit where credit is due. Roadmap was surprisingly hype in my opinion
@@drewgray4353 yes it was I'm actually surprised there adding more then I was expecting I would of preferred a crafting and fletching rework like adding a magic and range version of the masterwork armor and the spear of annihilation I think it would of been a little better then another smithing and mining update
The long and the short of it is that bonds have too much demand and not enough supply, and the lack of content is leading to existing content being farmed into the ground further decreasing demand for bonds.
Looks to me that more players that buy bonds with irl left the game then players that use gp to buy bonds. Or maybe jagex is doing somthing. Or maybe even both. And this is just somthing they do to try and get more people to buy bonds again with irl. As they lost a lot of income? Well if its so and it dusnt work they prop start firing people in the near future and then we know.
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I used to maintain buying the premier pack on my ironman just with duplicate boss drops items general collected items, but its getting more and more difficult to keep gaining the case. the general lack of good content is meaning im just afking exp, so even the general boss drops aren't coming in now.
I also think lots of ppl buy gold from the black market for real cheap and use that to buy bonds
Jagex should rethink how runescape operates in 2024, many free mmos that don't force players to pay a monthly sub but still have other MTX, since runescape has keys, solomon, bonds, battle passes, plus membership, jagex should simply rework membership. Give players access to all content but maybe limit bank space, loyalty points, and daily keys.
Bonds are rising because theres a huge market now for the 14 day membership passcodes on the black market for 07 botters, safer than trading gp to new accounts and with the 07->rs3 exchange rate its a great option for sellers and botters
To me all high level gear is dropping because we have a fourth combat style. If you look it dropped the cost of all high end pvm gear by on average 25%. As for the cost of bonds I think it has more to do with fewer active players and treasure hunter promos. Bonds on OSRS are also up at all time highs almost at 13m. Jagex recently increased the cost of bonds which i think has lead to fewer people buying them for both games.
Jagex love Bonds going up because they think by them going up in GP value, more people will buy them with real money.
In reality gold selling websites make the biggest sales because people will RWT for cheap GP and then buy bonds on the GEX for membership with the cheap GP.
Oh good lord. Glad I switched to flipping in OS where the raising percentage isn’t as high as rs3’s
Maybe by the end of the year, they'll be a quarter of the worth per dollar per gold that gold sellers rates are.
Used to buy 30-50 bonds at the start of every month and sell them for GO, quit for a couple of months now because of lack luster updates tbh
How did you like varlemore? Will you be playing pt 2?
Do you think player base is going down potentially because of people who played the most are getting older/having kids or careers?
There's no way I will touch bonds at that price, I luckily have a store of them that will buy me membership for a few years. Unfortunately these insane prices are mostly going to affect new players trying membership and will even push some players out of the game.
I really have to wonder if jagex is doing something so people will buy bonds with irl money to get gp in game!
I’ve been on a break near the end of October last year. Bonds were around 80m, now they’re over 100m !!? It’s ridiculous. It’s so sad for f2p. It’s never been worth to grind for a bond f2p for so long. You’re better off just buying 1-3 days with irl money and just grind a boss for drops and then buy bonds to upkeep membership
I'm thinking in some way the dead period of the game has something to do with it too. Players leaving or taking an extended break equals less bonds in the game so they will be more expensive.
I agree that it's more likely that it's players taking a break rather than demand for bonds increasing.
I dont know is it just breaks or did a lot of people just quit? Like the playerbase is at is lowest ever atm.
@@jensv874 That's the key word, atm. A low number doesn't indicate quitting, never comming back, ever. New content has been on a drip feed for a while. Once it picks up they'll be back if it good and impactful.
@@zeldapro18 New content wil raise the player base else you know its over. But how much will it raise...
The point about bonds having greater purchasing power is technically correct, but gear prices are falling because Necromancy is so strong and its gear is cheap. Less demand for bonds to buy BIS
I bought 10 bonds when they were 70 mil and made 7 tradeable. They really shouldn't be so expensive but Im not complaining
Nice profit there haha
I bought 40 and kept 20 last year for prime. Now I am considering buying prime with cash and selling the bonds.
A 700 mil drop is worth 50 mil in osrs… meanwhile there are multiple drops in osrs that are worth over a billion in osrs gp lol, that’s like 20x worth the highest drop in rs3
I don’t see how the bond price drops from now. The only way is up 😢
bonds can be used as a measurement of peoples faith in jagex too, if people aren't confident or happy with the sate of the game then less will be purchased from card swipes. Although jagex are pushing th promos that require a lot of spins I believe with how the game has been going with the seasonal / non perm content a lot of players have left for osrs or quit including a lot of whales which means buying less bonds. It's all for sure different issues that have stacked up and this is the mess we are left in. not sure how things are gonna go I guess it'll depend on the roadmap stream next week, but i'm not all that hopeful.
This makes me wish I had bought my gear later on than when I did. I bought my SGB at 2b, its about 1b now, and bought my Magma Tempest at 800m....my gp wallet is screaming at me lol.
I always buy 20 bonds for premier when I activate new premier. Last time I bought 20 for like 1b. They're now worth over 2b. I can't simply buy 2b worth of bonds now that I have to activate in the next week. Next year I guess I have to pay membership. if the game still exist lol
They should put a price cap on bonds, or maybe they are inflating it so people would buy them through irl money.
The picture is just pl sell items to buy bonds, this is a migration following the mod migration probably. Pppls sell their rs3 to get osrs memeship
i sadly quit the game because i couldnt affort playing anymore..
player who buy the bonds are the ones responsible for price raising, ie. 3 people list at 100m buy buyer have for 120m insta buy or short buy making price become inflated. or go up ge works on a sliding scale so highest bidder gets first then cascade to lower n lower. so solution is to buy bonds with real money and sell back to ge at 100m will insta lower price within a week. must be 1000s of bonds though to make a impact
Just wanted to come back to this video and inform you that i immediately closed it when you started talking about wall torches instead of economy
Check out phats going same way as prices back in July last year when they were pushed to insane prices , greens up like 4b already 😂😂
I think bond prices are rising because people are quitting. Its THE long term investment vehicle, so people are quitting, cashing out gear, and buying bonds.
Jagex selling gold like no tomorrow! If it increases much more, they'll have to increase the price as £ -> gp will be to good otherwise XD
What people aren't considering is that in our current economy, prices have gone up except wages that there are probably less people being able to purchase bonds with irl money to then sell, causing the increase on bonds
Necromancy was the nail in the coffin.
If anyone wants to print the wall lantern its available for free on cults.
did any of you forget that dxp is about to start ? no wonder bonds are so high and gear went down
for the last multiple months youtubers been swapping gold from osrs to rs3 for people since rs3 bonds were "cheaper". ever since the push for that started bonds on rs3 started going up. correlation not causation but like.. seems like it to me.
Bond used to be 3-4m in rs3 then i played …crazy…
kinda disliking the vids nowadays.. alot of clips from the streams.. sadge
Dude that flicking lamp is awesome 👌
As a whale... i buy bonds keys etc.. (incoming rage) i love the game... the worlds economy is gone to shit and my loans have gone up so much i dont have as much spare "play money" and runescape doesn't mean as much as date nights
Think the avarage players left. And with the player base now consisting of higher lvl players that already have the gear they need and raking inn money left and right.
The influx of items is greater than what is taken out of the game(with taxes, death costs and other)
And those players that makes enough to buy a bond to sustain their membership(because some activities print gp) dont mind over bidding on bonds just so they dont need to wait.
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No way in hell I’d pay bonds for membership..I’ve had less than 500m for 6 months 🤣
dont doordash anything while you play either, cause thatl cost u 2 bonds minimum which is worth a quarter of a BILL now 🤯
lol my long rs breaks are going to be longer it seems
So people upset that people that support the game buy buying bonds get more gp for the money?
Seems to me runescape dont want u u not pay for membership so the bonds will go up up up to mabe 1 bill each
Yeah it sucks for f2p players
but, i'm maxed i played tousands of hours to do 100 mil a hour pvm.
For me it's a bit more then a hour but, i damn deserve that. Let them grind like me before they can do shit.
Think most the problem with the issue of bond going through the roof and items going down is majorly linked to RS3 player base migration to osrs
RuneScape player base has increased, demand has increased
Lol, runescape player base has increased... And RS3 player base is at its lowest ever. Osrs player base increased. Rs3 is dying now more then ever before.
@@jensv874 bro stop dreaming i don't play both anymore, osrs is full of bots even some pvp youtubers can tell you that, rs3 is also down on players maybe better if theres a different game upcoming jagex failed us
@@appie7071 Well ya thats why we all quit. Waiting for brighter shores peronaly.
@@jensv874that's just some random game in development, there's no promise it will be better
@@johnspencer8982Well he made a random ass game in the past that he called runescape. But ima repeat my self here. I PERSONALY am waiting for brighter shores. No one promesed me it will be better not even Andrew him self. But he did promise no MTX ever. So ima try it out. Idc what you do.
its easy to make gp ok the game got to make money somehow. ill be buying more bonds keep selling them high.
You look like how my grandad looked when he was younger. 😂
O.o lol
This is why i quit playing they went from 20m to like 40m in 2 or 3 weeks
Jagex isn't behind this. I am.
Get a bond in f2p then just dig up hellfire metal
best thing to do is to double the time for the bond
In the famous words of Patrick Star " Gotta keep you on your toes."
lol jagex prob inflating prices to
Make money
The current RS3 Jmod team is completely fucking aids. Everysingle mod currently working on rs3 needs replacing
Necro both revived and killed Pvm.
I think all styles need to be rebuilt from scratch with necromancy in mind. Less abilities, simple stack management and more straightforward rotations.
Ranged for example, to get the best out of it you need to maintain deathspore, wen, bolg stacks, use 3 different eofs as well as buff crits…
Shit is too mad for me to even consider when necromancy is basically as powerful
Yeah, I don't play this game anymore because the market is so nonsense. When the hween masks went from 60m~ to 800m+ I made a killing and the game stopped making any sense and lost all of its fun for me
Lets be honest, Jagex doesnt give a damm about f2p, they havent in the last 5+ years, the last thing they did for f2p is to make fletching f2p skill (5 years ago) and making the kbd and green dragons f2p which was like 8+ years ago :D they literaly did nothing else i know of.... even osrs makes more content for f2p :D and for those thinking it doesnt make difference it does, when a new guy tries f2p to see if the game is good, and they see this shit they will leave....
Can't disagree with anything you said tbh
@@InitYeah Yea, its sad... I love the game, even tho Im shit at pvm and cant even do like gwd3 i still enjoy it, hop on go some duo with fiend, some minigame ( even tho 99% of them are dead outside of weekly spotlite...) Idk... it just when i look at the game i cant imagine new guy coming from like world of warcraft where he uses like 8 spells + pots into RS3 where you have gear + potions + your healer & dps & tank at the same time + invention perks (which even after 15 years of rs i still dont get) + rotations with several condition based switches + summoning and scolls for summons + 10 other buffs etc.... I had a friend over who plays world of warcraft (wotlk mainly) and when he saw me with my 4 action bars, 5 items for switches he just went thats way too hardcore no way im even trying that, cant sink 1 year just to get to like mid lvl... not to mention milions / bilions for basic unlocks.... like just coruption shots + anima farming for salt in the would... like its weeks of either grind or crazy money making.... I have unlocks only in melee since its the style i like but when i see what i would need for magic to be good... like 800mil + FOR ABILITY!!! wtf....
You people better use your credit card from now on.
Dead game.. oh well, sux to suck... Lol "taking a break waiting for content" RIP RS3
Necro crashed the economy
Why not just use your debit card and pay for a month of members people are stupid for real 🙄