Please click "Read more" for links and more information. See the Flight Talk video here: ua-cam.com/video/9U26bYFj_4o/v-deo.html See the BONUS Flight Talk video (flown with 4S, grass takeoff/landing, etc.) here: ua-cam.com/video/V6X3L3ahJ9Y/v-deo.html And the Overview video here: ua-cam.com/video/KT6jQJQFukw/v-deo.html Learn more about the E-flite® Habu STS (Smart Trainer w/SAFE) 70mm EDF Jet RTF/PNP here: www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=Habu+STS&search-button=&lang=default And RealFlight® Trainer Edition RC Flight Simulator here: www.horizonhobby.com/product/realflight-trainer-edition-for-steam-download-only/RFL1205D.html Spektrum Smart Batteries: www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=smart%20lipo%20battery Spektrum Smart Chargers: www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=smart%20charger Spektrum Smart Accessories: www.horizonhobby.com/SearchDisplay?searchTerm=SPMX_SMART_Accs&categoryId=&sourceDomain=&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&pageSize=40&beginIndex=0&sType=SimpleSearch&resultCatEntryType=2&searchTermScope=2&showResultsPage=true&searchSource=Q&sourceDomain=&pageView= Spektrum Smart ESCs: www.horizonhobby.com/blog-smart-technology-escs.html Spektrum Transmitters: www.horizonhobby.com/airplanes/radio-systems/transmitters/
I can confirm this thing is quite durable I can say from experience from crashing through a tree hit a shed and landed in a backyard and came out with some scratched up foam and a disconnected servo quick and easy fix great plane!
This has been my first ever rc plane and when they say durable I'm not sure what that means but I assumed it's Latin for Tuff as fark!because mine has taken some pretty hard emergency landings and I'm sure mine was sent back in time and originally built by skynet because the first time up and she was a screaming eagle and then i got the power warning ....ohh what do i do now???I looked at my six year old son and said"this is your captain speaking please lock your meal trays in the upright position bring your seats forward and brace for impact"and he looked and said"huh?"I quickly replied "do as I say now....grab the dog and run for it" I reckon she hit the cricket pitch at half speed nose slightly dipped bounced then bounced again this time about 50mtrs more than allowed for just after the second bounce it cleared a wire fence minus the front landing gear that fell there and then expecting to see nothing but little foam balls I finally got to the fence looked over and there it was perfectly intact with the red battery light just visible under the now unclipped cockpit as a voice came from it that sounded like it said ...John Connor?.... and she still flies beautifully!!!....and my landings have improved a ton as well.....thank you elite.....skyne
IMHO, Let's see - Three awesome VERY informative videos by Jason explaining just about anything and everything you would want to know about Horizon Hobby's (HH) LATEST, GROUND BREAKING and REVOLUTIONIZING RC industry INVENTION AND the forth video by the INCOMPARABLE Ali and HH company showing how this jet leaves just about no doubt how WIDE a flying envelope this INCREDIBLE jet has to offer to the BEGINNER through the different levels of flying skills up to EXPERIENCED. I truly believe that you get AT LEAST TWO JETS in/for ONE with this INVENTION, and INVENTION indeed because NO manufacture has EVER made a "FIRST TIME, LEARNING to FLY" BEGINNER TRAINER JET. Isn't technology GREAT!!! - Thank you HH for thinking "out of the box".... AGAIN and making this hobby APPROACHABLE and ENJOYABLE to SOOO many more people that may have never thought of trying this hobby out. I can say that from numerous experiences I have seen at the flying field. 🙏😊
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
@@HorizonHobbyProducts I hope you guys do a video on how to set up a receiver with said file so dummies like me can buy the Plug and Play version and a 636 receiver and get it in the air easily, since there's no BNF.
Seems a little too expensive The ready to fly Version is 399$ That’s $100 more than the 70mm F16 and that has retracts, 6s compatible motor and it’s a lot bigger, but thank you for making another jet keep up the good work
That's definitely not an apples to apples comparison...especially because the F-16 is BNF Basic and the Habu STS is an RTF ;) The RTF version of the Habu STS includes a Spektrum DXS transmitter which is a $99.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/dxs-transmitter-only/SPMR1010.html ), a Spektrum Smart 3S 4000mAh 30C battery which is a $54.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/4000mah-3s-11.1v-smart-lipo-battery-30c-ic3/SPMX40003S30.html ), a Spektrum Smart 120 charger which is a $19.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/s120-usb-c-smart-charger-1x20w/SPMXC1020.html ), RealFlight Trainer Edition which is a $39.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/realflight-trainer-edition-for-steam-download-only/RFL1205D.html ) and a Spektrum WS2000 Wireless USB Simulator Dongle which is a $39.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/ws2000-wireless-simulator-usb-dongle/SPMWS2000.html ). Those components alone add up to $254.95, which means you're basically getting the Habu STS with a 70mm fan and motor, 70A telemetry-capable ESC, 5 servos, a flight controller and receiver for $145 at the RTF package price of $399.99. That's also only $50 more than the E-flite Apprentice STS RTF ($349.99), and $100 more than the HobbyZone Carbon Cub S 2 RTF ($299.99), which actually makes the Habu STS RTF a very good value overall when compared to other popular RTF trainers!
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
RealFlight Trainer Edition is not included with the PNP version because it requires a Spektrum transmitter and USB dongle (which are included with the RTF version), or the Spektrum InterLink DX USB simulator controller. However, RealFlight Trainer Edition is available separately for $39.99: www.horizonhobby.com/product/realflight-trainer-edition-for-steam-download-only/RFL1205D.html
The first shipments are on the way to our EU warehouse now and should be arriving around the middle of August! Also, no BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
The Ready-To-Fly (RTF) version ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/habu-sts-70mm-edf-smart-jet-rtf-with-safe-1029mm/EFL01500.html ) includes the transmitter, receiver/flight controller, battery and charger. The Plug-N-Play (PNP) version ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/habu-sts-70mm-edf-jet-smart-pnp-1029mm/EFL01575.html ) does not include any of those items (they must be purchased/supplied separately). The RTF version is for people new to the hobby and who do not own any or all of the required components/equipment. The PNP version is more for experienced RC pilots who already own some or all of the required components/equipment: "The Ready-To-Fly (RTF) version includes everything needed to fly in one box and is the perfect choice if you're a new RC pilot. From the Spektrum DXS 2.4GHz transmitter you can use with other Bind-N-Fly® (BNF) and BNF Basic aircraft after you learn to fly the Habu STS, to the 3S 4000mAh Smart LiPo battery and a convenient S120 USB-C Smart charger that can be used with a variety of USB power sources, there's nothing extra you need to buy or provide! A Plug-N-Play® (PNP) version lets experienced modelers choose and use their own transmitter, receiver, battery and charger. And for both versions, the powerful brushless power system including a telemetry-capable ESC and the servos are all factory-installed."
I just received the Habu STS PNP last week was wondering if on page 19 of the manual on elevator trimming is correct. It says to trim upwards if the habu drifts downward. This is the opposite direction of trimming my other 6 eflite prop planes that I own.
We just looked at page 19 in the manual here: www.horizonhobby.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-horizon-master/default/dw1ff64496/Manuals/EFL01500-manual-en.pdf And yes, unfortunately the wrong direction is shown for elevator trimming! If any airplane is drifting downward you should add "up" trim by pulling back/down on the elevator trim lever. Our many apologies for this error and we will have it corrected as soon as possible!
@@HorizonHobbyProducts Thanks. I've had my first outing with this Habu last Friday and my maiden went well. However, I still got to work on battery placement as well as elevator trim.
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
since there is no BNF version:(. where can I find this ar636 file you talked about? Would love to set up one of my receivers and buy the pnp version and still have safe and a factory tune. A video explaining how to do it all would be even better, but any help would be appreciated since it's impossible to get through to phone support. PS I looked on the spektrum website and didn't see anything listed for this plane. BTW I'd pay the extra for a bnf. Its a bummer.
I paid for mine but in the PNP but will be using a stabilized receiver. Of course I will be posting a review on my Channel for my viewers and suscribers!!
Yes! SAFE will automatically be assigned to the A switch on the NX8. That is a 2-position switch so you will only be able to use the Beginner and Experienced flight modes with that "default" configuration. If you want to use the Intermediate mode as well, you will simply need to assign Channel 5 to the 3-position B switch instead (this is very quick and easy to do in the NX8!). Then you will have the same Beginner, Intermediate and Experienced modes as the stock DXS transmitter.
Just started airplanes. I’m still going to buy this jet. Doesn’t mean I will try to fly it right away. I just want to get to the level to fly it in Beginner and not crash it
The connector installed on the ESC in the airplane is an IC3, which is compatible with EC3 connectors. That in mind you can use this adapter to connect your XT60 to the IC3: www.horizonhobby.com/product/adapter-xt60-device-ec3-battery/DYNC0141.html
As noted in response to other comments/questions regarding a BNF Basic version: No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
Please click "Read more" for links and more information. See the Flight Talk video here: ua-cam.com/video/9U26bYFj_4o/v-deo.html
See the BONUS Flight Talk video (flown with 4S, grass takeoff/landing, etc.) here: ua-cam.com/video/V6X3L3ahJ9Y/v-deo.html
And the Overview video here: ua-cam.com/video/KT6jQJQFukw/v-deo.html
Learn more about the E-flite® Habu STS (Smart Trainer w/SAFE) 70mm EDF Jet RTF/PNP here: www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=Habu+STS&search-button=&lang=default
And RealFlight® Trainer Edition RC Flight Simulator here: www.horizonhobby.com/product/realflight-trainer-edition-for-steam-download-only/RFL1205D.html
Spektrum Smart Batteries: www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=smart%20lipo%20battery
Spektrum Smart Chargers: www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=smart%20charger
Spektrum Smart Accessories: www.horizonhobby.com/SearchDisplay?searchTerm=SPMX_SMART_Accs&categoryId=&sourceDomain=&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&pageSize=40&beginIndex=0&sType=SimpleSearch&resultCatEntryType=2&searchTermScope=2&showResultsPage=true&searchSource=Q&sourceDomain=&pageView=
Spektrum Smart ESCs: www.horizonhobby.com/blog-smart-technology-escs.html
Spektrum Transmitters: www.horizonhobby.com/airplanes/radio-systems/transmitters/
I can confirm this thing is quite durable I can say from experience from crashing through a tree hit a shed and landed in a backyard and came out with some scratched up foam and a disconnected servo quick and easy fix great plane!
Classic design with modern tech, love it.
I like this type of promotional video, that it is both entertaining and informative.
This has been my first ever rc plane and when they say durable I'm not sure what that means but I assumed it's Latin for Tuff as fark!because mine has taken some pretty hard emergency landings and I'm sure mine was sent back in time and originally built by skynet because the first time up and she was a screaming eagle and then i got the power warning ....ohh what do i do now???I looked at my six year old son and said"this is your captain speaking please lock your meal trays in the upright position bring your seats forward and brace for impact"and he looked and said"huh?"I quickly replied "do as I say now....grab the dog and run for it" I reckon she hit the cricket pitch at half speed nose slightly dipped bounced then bounced again this time about 50mtrs more than allowed for just after the second bounce it cleared a wire fence minus the front landing gear that fell there and then expecting to see nothing but little foam balls I finally got to the fence looked over and there it was perfectly intact with the red battery light just visible under the now unclipped cockpit as a voice came from it that sounded like it said ...John Connor?.... and she still flies beautifully!!!....and my landings have improved a ton as well.....thank you elite.....skyne
Always loved the haubu. Happy to see it back
Wow! One you can hand launch it and it's so stable! Got my eye on this one!
Thanks for introducing i will buy it now
Very nice plane. Might have to get me one this week
1:55 were the 2 hand launches shown with the included 3s battery or the optional 4s battery?
Yes please, i need that Jet. And its easy to hand launch. Cant wait to fly it.
IMHO, Let's see - Three awesome VERY informative videos by Jason explaining just about anything and everything you would want to know about Horizon Hobby's (HH) LATEST, GROUND BREAKING and REVOLUTIONIZING RC industry INVENTION AND the forth video by the INCOMPARABLE Ali and HH company showing how this jet leaves just about no doubt how WIDE a flying envelope this INCREDIBLE jet has to offer to the BEGINNER through the different levels of flying skills up to EXPERIENCED. I truly believe that you get AT LEAST TWO JETS in/for ONE with this INVENTION, and INVENTION indeed because NO manufacture has EVER made a "FIRST TIME, LEARNING to FLY" BEGINNER TRAINER JET. Isn't technology GREAT!!! - Thank you HH for thinking "out of the box"....
AGAIN and making this hobby APPROACHABLE and ENJOYABLE to SOOO many more people that may have never thought of trying this hobby out. I can say that from numerous experiences I have seen at the flying field. 🙏😊
Can’t wait for mine to arrive😎
Did you get it? How do you like it?
It can fly that slow?! I would of loved to learn to fly on this!
This is my dream plane always been but nervous of a jet this looks awesome
Amazing how smooth this jet flies! And it looks easy too, aslong as one start off with beginner mode x) i will order this beast next payday 😁
To bad it's discontinued.
Why?
@@VikingPerrserker flight controller issues.
Well f@#$ me they got em back in stock now. Lol
I ordered last jet here and it’s on the way to me atm. Hope it’s no issues :s
This is a must have!!!
Looks awesome! Why isn't it available in BNF?
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
@@HorizonHobbyProducts I hope you guys do a video on how to set up a receiver with said file so dummies like me can buy the Plug and Play version and a 636 receiver and get it in the air easily, since there's no BNF.
Seems a little too expensive The ready to fly Version is 399$ That’s $100 more than the 70mm F16 and that has retracts, 6s compatible motor and it’s a lot bigger, but thank you for making another jet keep up the good work
That's definitely not an apples to apples comparison...especially because the F-16 is BNF Basic and the Habu STS is an RTF ;) The RTF version of the Habu STS includes a Spektrum DXS transmitter which is a $99.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/dxs-transmitter-only/SPMR1010.html ), a Spektrum Smart 3S 4000mAh 30C battery which is a $54.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/4000mah-3s-11.1v-smart-lipo-battery-30c-ic3/SPMX40003S30.html ), a Spektrum Smart 120 charger which is a $19.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/s120-usb-c-smart-charger-1x20w/SPMXC1020.html ), RealFlight Trainer Edition which is a $39.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/realflight-trainer-edition-for-steam-download-only/RFL1205D.html ) and a Spektrum WS2000 Wireless USB Simulator Dongle which is a $39.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/ws2000-wireless-simulator-usb-dongle/SPMWS2000.html ). Those components alone add up to $254.95, which means you're basically getting the Habu STS with a 70mm fan and motor, 70A telemetry-capable ESC, 5 servos, a flight controller and receiver for $145 at the RTF package price of $399.99. That's also only $50 more than the E-flite Apprentice STS RTF ($349.99), and $100 more than the HobbyZone Carbon Cub S 2 RTF ($299.99), which actually makes the Habu STS RTF a very good value overall when compared to other popular RTF trainers!
HorizonHobbyProducts now that you said that I realize it’s really good value thank you, and keep them jets coming!
Whats the top speed guys?
Nice, could well be my first EDF
This thing is amazing I want this as my first plane wooooooo 😆 lol
Looks like another winner HH, like being able to use 4s and the larger wheels, well done, Jeff in LA USA
Will the Habu be available in regular RealFlight 9 ? =D would love to test it there
It will be in the future ;)
Does the Habu SS landing gear fit on this Habu STS in hopes to reduce bounce on paved runway?
How much Flight time to you have?
I don't see a BNF version, are you going to have one?
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
@@HorizonHobbyProducts That makes perfect sense and glad you are making a file available! Thanks.
Hey Horizon, I'm getting paid tomorrow and my order will be made!!
Hey horizon! Do you think this would be a fun 2nd plane or should I go for the p-39 airacorbra? Thanks!
Either would be great as a 2nd airplane! They are very different animals though, so you should probably get both ;)
HorizonHobbyProducts haha I wish I could get both but I think I might go with the Habu thanks!
I have the sensei fs and I love it!!!!! Now I need this !!!!!!!!!! Flys just like it but in jet form and faster!!!! Lol 👍
It’s back!
Love it👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼🔥🔥
Quick question ! If I change the esc to 80amp could I run an 5s ?
Does realflight basic come with the pnp version
RealFlight Trainer Edition is not included with the PNP version because it requires a Spektrum transmitter and USB dongle (which are included with the RTF version), or the Spektrum InterLink DX USB simulator controller. However, RealFlight Trainer Edition is available separately for $39.99: www.horizonhobby.com/product/realflight-trainer-edition-for-steam-download-only/RFL1205D.html
Cool plane. When will it be available in Europe? Will it also come in a BNF version?
The first shipments are on the way to our EU warehouse now and should be arriving around the middle of August! Also, no BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
Does this jet come with receiver and battery like in video?
The Ready-To-Fly (RTF) version ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/habu-sts-70mm-edf-smart-jet-rtf-with-safe-1029mm/EFL01500.html ) includes the transmitter, receiver/flight controller, battery and charger. The Plug-N-Play (PNP) version ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/habu-sts-70mm-edf-jet-smart-pnp-1029mm/EFL01575.html ) does not include any of those items (they must be purchased/supplied separately). The RTF version is for people new to the hobby and who do not own any or all of the required components/equipment. The PNP version is more for experienced RC pilots who already own some or all of the required components/equipment:
"The Ready-To-Fly (RTF) version includes everything needed to fly in one box and is the perfect choice if you're a new RC pilot. From the Spektrum DXS 2.4GHz transmitter you can use with other Bind-N-Fly® (BNF) and BNF Basic aircraft after you learn to fly the Habu STS, to the 3S 4000mAh Smart LiPo battery and a convenient S120 USB-C Smart charger that can be used with a variety of USB power sources, there's nothing extra you need to buy or provide! A Plug-N-Play® (PNP) version lets experienced modelers choose and use their own transmitter, receiver, battery and charger. And for both versions, the powerful brushless power system including a telemetry-capable ESC and the servos are all factory-installed."
@@HorizonHobbyProducts thank you that is what I needed to know.
I just received the Habu STS PNP last week was wondering if on page 19 of the manual on elevator trimming is correct. It says to trim upwards if the habu drifts downward. This is the opposite direction of trimming my other 6 eflite prop planes that I own.
We just looked at page 19 in the manual here: www.horizonhobby.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-horizon-master/default/dw1ff64496/Manuals/EFL01500-manual-en.pdf
And yes, unfortunately the wrong direction is shown for elevator trimming! If any airplane is drifting downward you should add "up" trim by pulling back/down on the elevator trim lever. Our many apologies for this error and we will have it corrected as soon as possible!
@@HorizonHobbyProducts Thanks. I've had my first outing with this Habu last Friday and my maiden went well. However, I still got to work on battery placement as well as elevator trim.
Is their a BNF version?
never mind i see comment below
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
With the PNP model of the Habu, what would be a good receiver to pair with a Spektrum NX6 transmitter?
I’m buying it now 😂
since there is no BNF version:(. where can I find this ar636 file you talked about? Would love to set up one of my receivers and buy the pnp version and still have safe and a factory tune. A video explaining how to do it all would be even better, but any help would be appreciated since it's impossible to get through to phone support. PS I looked on the spektrum website and didn't see anything listed for this plane. BTW I'd pay the extra for a bnf. Its a bummer.
I paid for mine but in the PNP but will be using a stabilized receiver. Of course I will be posting a review on my Channel for my viewers and suscribers!!
Awesome
If i get the RTF Model, can i bind it to a new Nx8 with the same saveselect switch too?
Yes! SAFE will automatically be assigned to the A switch on the NX8. That is a 2-position switch so you will only be able to use the Beginner and Experienced flight modes with that "default" configuration. If you want to use the Intermediate mode as well, you will simply need to assign Channel 5 to the 3-position B switch instead (this is very quick and easy to do in the NX8!). Then you will have the same Beginner, Intermediate and Experienced modes as the stock DXS transmitter.
impressive, but seems a bit fast for a trainer even an edf trainer, but those AOAs without stalling ,just impressive
Just started airplanes. I’m still going to buy this jet. Doesn’t mean I will try to fly it right away. I just want to get to the level to fly it in Beginner and not crash it
How fast can it go on a 3s 4000 mah?
Can a lipo with xt60 connector work with connector installed in plane?
The connector installed on the ESC in the airplane is an IC3, which is compatible with EC3 connectors. That in mind you can use this adapter to connect your XT60 to the IC3: www.horizonhobby.com/product/adapter-xt60-device-ec3-battery/DYNC0141.html
Please no music I want to hear the little machine!
Wow
Bought one but was on back order until 2021
These sound like a real jet actually, not speakers. Just a lot quieter because it is an electric jet.
Looks like an aerobatic jet 😂
Becareful , check your motor cowling after 2nd flight the front of the motor well seperate its not put on tight
B-day present
Bad decision not to offer a BNF
As noted in response to other comments/questions regarding a BNF Basic version:
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
@@HorizonHobbyProducts Can my Apprentice STS receiver and flight controller be used in the Habu PNP?