The Cunarder was an ocean liner boat train run to connect with arrivals and departures from Southampton docks of the Queens Mary and Elizabeth. The train was mostly pullmans and was usually hauled by a Lord Nelson until withdrawal in 1962. Given that the Pullman boat trains disappeared with electrification in 1967 the timeline for the set is 1962-66
Thanks, it's just a little tip. As I work on the Bodmin and Wenford railway, we put our GWR head boards on the top of the smoke box and when we have our Beattie or T9 Greyhound out, we put put it in the middle, but our Beattie only has a hook on the top of the smoke box.
The air smoothing was actually not designed to aid performance but to allow the locos to go through carriage washers so cleaning was easier. Another reason for its removal was it was simply in the way for maintenance reasons. The reason for the removal of the chain valve gear was it just didn't work very well because the chains sometimes slipped and the valves went out of time. Other changes include removing a large oil bath which the motion sat in (it would sometimes catch fire at high speeds).
There’s a squadron locomotive at Swanage Railway as well, number 257. I’ve seen that particular one before and been on it. I’ve also seen the cab of it and that was very very cool.
With all the fantastic detail on this Cunarder locomotive and the cost i think a smoke unit should be included. Thus engine with DCC and smoker and sound would be just perfect.
very nice loco, i must mention though that the headboards on bulleid go across the 2 lamp irons half way up the smokebox (like they do with clan line & tangmere etc…)
I once went to the GCR, and thay had a "spam can special"! ("Spam Can" was the nickname for the air smoothed battle of britain/west country/merchant navy locos lol!)
I watched them last time too, I was sad that they weren't long videos, but now you've changed that. :) I remember loading up some videos, ironically to watch on a train!!!! since I didn't have wifi and being sad that I had seen all your +15minute videos :D but now you've updated it. :)
Although I can't comfirm it on the Rebuilt models, it is very easy to fit a smoke generator/DCC decoder to the un-rebuilt engines as there is plenty of room in the body casing. If the body is mounted the same way, single screw at the rear below the footplate, then it should be do able.
there were other factors at Lewisham, the fact that there was heavy fog that night and the signals being on the wrong side of the line so the driver had to get the fireman to look out for them and tell him what aspect they were showing. Not exactly conducive to safe operation tbh. Then there was the misrouting of another train and the collapse of the bridge running over the line which collapsed onto the wreckage, exacerbating things. The temporary structure built by the army turned out to be so good it's still there to be seen today.
One idea for adding weight to light coaches is to take them apart, and then blu-tac 2p coins over the bogies. This helps the rolling stock run more smoothly, and reduces the chance of derailments. :)
There are actually 31 Bulleid Pacifics in preservation. There's 20 Light Pacifics as you said IC82, which of course means there's 11 Merchant Navy's. Two of the most famous in preservation are Merchant Navy No. 35028 'Clan Line' and West Country No. 34046 'Braunton'. 2 of the unrebuilt survivors are West Country No. 34007 'Wadebridge' and Battle of Britain No. 34051 'Winston Churchill'.
Headboard is in the wrong place it is meant to be over the front of the smokebox between the 2 lamp irons because that's how they had then fitted to the Bulleid pacifics
The gearing that you said you can't pronounce is probably the walschaerts valve gear. It is the gearing that runs near the top from the middle driving wheel to the valve chests on each side of the locomotive. A very common type of valve gear.
Sadly, in the 70s/80s loads of these were in Barry scrapline all rusted up but because of that loads of them were sold and restored and now thankfully there are in a immaculate state which is great
No, you misunderstand me. What I mean is that inititally they were named West Country class because they were intended to run in just the West Country - that's why they were named after that area. But as it became apparent that the class was popular and ended up running all over the south of England, they made sure that they dropped that name of class and adopted the name Battle of Britain Class. They didn't want to use the same name as it wasn't true to where they ran anymore.
Nice to see her running. She would have slipped out of Waterloo. I rate her as gd as the merchant navy class, you should consider either Hornby Schools class or Bachmann Lord Nelson class. Great review my gdad loved it as he helped build them. Well done Will and thank you for having a bit of southern.
Ahh yes well I thought that but it was quite difficult to get it to stick to the middle of the smokebox, plus it covered up the number on the smokebox there too. I thought, just for the purposes of demonstrating the Tacky Wax, at the top would be OK.
The exact words from Wikipedia... "Once it became clear that the locomotives would be used further afield than the West Country, a decision was made to name the remainder after RAF squadrons, airfields, commanders and aircraft that had participated in the Battle of Britain over Kent, Surrey and Sussex during 1940"
They weren't really "designed to be used in different parts of Britain", as the caption at 2:38 says. There were no design differences between the Battle of Britain and West Country locos: just two different series of names based on where each batch of locos would be used.
Good tip with the tacky wax. I've only got one train with a headboard, but I didn't mind using superglue as I'll only ever be using that engine with its own coaches.
Thanks for the wonderful vids, beautiful loco. I changed my name and previously was called keikuru1 btw, I got tired of youtube bothering me to change my name, can't wait for season 4!
Great Video. Just a bit of Information, The headboard would not be applied to the top of the locomotive it would be centered in the middle of the smoke box door. :)
I got the bournemouth belle train pack and it has a battle of britain class with air smooth casing in southern livery and with premium pullman coaches but it was like £170 to £200 so that is a drawback to it
I admit I did misread the comment I put up you are right :) on another note when you say 3 classes do you mean the Merchant navy class aswell? I don't want to cause an argument or anything but the merchant navy was built first and was heavier than the other 2. They couldn't run on some lines because of that so the other 2 classes were built
That Mechanism genuinely brings a smile to my face.
The Cunarder was an ocean liner boat train run to connect with arrivals and departures from Southampton docks of the Queens Mary and Elizabeth. The train was mostly pullmans and was usually hauled by a Lord Nelson until withdrawal in 1962. Given that the Pullman boat trains disappeared with electrification in 1967 the timeline for the set is 1962-66
Thanks, it's just a little tip. As I work on the Bodmin and Wenford railway, we put our GWR head boards on the top of the smoke box and when we have our Beattie or T9 Greyhound out, we put put it in the middle, but our Beattie only has a hook on the top of the smoke box.
The air smoothing was actually not designed to aid performance but to allow the locos to go through carriage washers so cleaning was easier. Another reason for its removal was it was simply in the way for maintenance reasons. The reason for the removal of the chain valve gear was it just didn't work very well because the chains sometimes slipped and the valves went out of time. Other changes include removing a large oil bath which the motion sat in (it would sometimes catch fire at high speeds).
thanks - I'll make sure it's above the buffer beam or in the middle of the smokebox for when it appears on camera again.
There’s a squadron locomotive at Swanage Railway as well, number 257. I’ve seen that particular one before and been on it. I’ve also seen the cab of it and that was very very cool.
With all the fantastic detail on this Cunarder locomotive and the cost i think a smoke unit should be included. Thus engine with DCC and smoker and sound would be just perfect.
It really is an exquisite locomotive, stunning in every way.
You know Will I am running out of words to say on your review vids! For me your still 'The King!' Best regards, John.
she is a really nice train set and i love the old effect coaches goes perfect with coal locos
Very Nice Will! these types of locos are stunners especially at performing on the mainline! they sound great plus the whistles good too!
I am incredibly jealous. You have some absolutely beautiful locomotives.
I think it was a charter service layed on by the ocean liner companies such as Cunard to get its passengers from London to the port at Sounthampton.
thank you for the praise! I shall do my best to keep it up!
Awesome review! I love those rebuilt bulleids! I am getting this pack and the 'Heart of Midlothian' train pack as well for Christmas!
very nice loco, i must mention though that the headboards on bulleid go across the 2 lamp irons half way up the smokebox (like they do with clan line & tangmere etc…)
I once went to the GCR, and thay had a "spam can special"! ("Spam Can" was the nickname for the air smoothed battle of britain/west country/merchant navy locos lol!)
I watched them last time too, I was sad that they weren't long videos, but now you've changed that. :) I remember loading up some videos, ironically to watch on a train!!!! since I didn't have wifi and being sad that I had seen all your +15minute videos :D but now you've updated it. :)
Although I can't comfirm it on the Rebuilt models, it is very easy to fit a smoke generator/DCC decoder to the un-rebuilt engines as there is plenty of room in the body casing. If the body is mounted the same way, single screw at the rear below the footplate, then it should be do able.
A very good video, what a lovely engine with plenty of detail and power, would like to see this and hear it if it had DCC sound etc
thanks for the comment! Me too! I did all these years ago lol (only doing them again cos so many people kept asking me to do so)
I will get one eventually - it's just a case of which one to go for!
I sure can! And will do. But it'll be after Christmas now.
there were other factors at Lewisham, the fact that there was heavy fog that night and the signals being on the wrong side of the line so the driver had to get the fireman to look out for them and tell him what aspect they were showing. Not exactly conducive to safe operation tbh. Then there was the misrouting of another train and the collapse of the bridge running over the line which collapsed onto the wreckage, exacerbating things. The temporary structure built by the army turned out to be so good it's still there to be seen today.
One idea for adding weight to light coaches is to take them apart, and then blu-tac 2p coins over the bogies. This helps the rolling stock run more smoothly, and reduces the chance of derailments. :)
There are actually 31 Bulleid Pacifics in preservation. There's 20 Light Pacifics as you said IC82, which of course means there's 11 Merchant Navy's. Two of the most famous in preservation are Merchant Navy No. 35028 'Clan Line' and West Country No. 34046 'Braunton'. 2 of the unrebuilt survivors are West Country No. 34007 'Wadebridge' and Battle of Britain No. 34051 'Winston Churchill'.
Headboard is in the wrong place it is meant to be over the front of the smokebox between the 2 lamp irons because that's how they had then fitted to the Bulleid pacifics
Beautiful locomotive. Excellent stuff Will!
From what I read, the driver's fatigue played the greatest part in the crash.
I shall check out your channel later this morning! Thanks for the comment
When they were de-streamlined they also had a more conventional valve gear fitted to replace the unreliable chain driven gear they originally had.
The gearing that you said you can't pronounce is probably the walschaerts valve gear. It is the gearing that runs near the top from the middle driving wheel to the valve chests on each side of the locomotive. A very common type of valve gear.
Sadly, in the 70s/80s loads of these were in Barry scrapline all rusted up but because of that loads of them were sold and restored and now thankfully there are in a immaculate state which is great
nice review have seen this trainpack in m local model shop quite cheap so might get it
Yes, I've had literally hundreds of requests to do Lego train set vids too, which is why that's all being built alongside the OO track.
Yup! I must have gone thru some sort of mad Hornby train pack phase haha
Cunard was the company that owned the ocean liners they were manufactured by companies like John Brown in Clydebank
No, you misunderstand me. What I mean is that inititally they were named West Country class because they were intended to run in just the West Country - that's why they were named after that area. But as it became apparent that the class was popular and ended up running all over the south of England, they made sure that they dropped that name of class and adopted the name Battle of Britain Class. They didn't want to use the same name as it wasn't true to where they ran anymore.
If only you could still arrive at Southampton docks in a train like this today :-)
Another cracking video, well done!
I love this Cunarder locomotive, I wish I could afford to purchase one just to put it on display. 😟
Part 2 features the plans for it. Then Part 3 looks at building the baseboards, etc. That's all in Series 4 : Proper which starts in Dec.
Lots more to get then! By the sounds of it haha
Nice to see her running. She would have slipped out of Waterloo. I rate her as gd as the merchant navy class, you should consider either Hornby Schools class or Bachmann Lord Nelson class. Great review my gdad loved it as he helped build them. Well done Will and thank you for having a bit of southern.
1:25 The locomotive of the Cunarder pack looks almost exactly like the Emerald Night LEGO train set.
Thanks!
Ahh yes well I thought that but it was quite difficult to get it to stick to the middle of the smokebox, plus it covered up the number on the smokebox there too. I thought, just for the purposes of demonstrating the Tacky Wax, at the top would be OK.
haha well they are! Keep an eye on them!
should be done for the end of the mini-series
60 Locomotives of the 110 Built West Country/Battle of Britain classes where rebuilt
A fab loco one of my fav ones
Wow thats a big shelf!
Lovely loco will I enjoyed the history lessons :) I would like to if you will be getting a full diesal Pullman train when on your proper layout
The exact words from Wikipedia... "Once it became clear that the locomotives would be used further afield than the West Country, a decision was made to name the remainder after RAF squadrons, airfields, commanders and aircraft that had participated in the Battle of Britain over Kent, Surrey and Sussex during 1940"
it is indeed! very easy for the average person to get them confused with one another
I just found out that 213 Squadron was cut up on the 31st of March, 1968. So now we know.
They weren't really "designed to be used in different parts of Britain", as the caption at 2:38 says. There were no design differences between the Battle of Britain and West Country locos: just two different series of names based on where each batch of locos would be used.
Maybe one day!
Great video well done.
Good tip with the tacky wax. I've only got one train with a headboard, but I didn't mind using superglue as I'll only ever be using that engine with its own coaches.
Wow! That was LOUD!
26@:08 epic clip and epic review well done
thanks matey!!!
thanks for the comment!
I prefer the new packiging - it is much more secure for the loco I think
That's the one! Thanks for the comment
Thanks for the wonderful vids, beautiful loco. I changed my name and previously was called keikuru1 btw, I got tired of youtube bothering me to change my name, can't wait for season 4!
Showcase the Hornby Tornado Pullman Set!
cheers!
Fair enough. I think "intended" is a much better word to use than "designed".
Also, I have some videos on my channel of the Severn Valley Railway's rebuilt Battle of Britain class 'Sir Keith Park'
She is amazing but when are we going to see your layout upstairs?
Great Video. Just a bit of Information, The headboard would not be applied to the top of the locomotive it would be centered in the middle of the smoke box door. :)
Awesome Video Will :) I have this pack and its amazing :D
Cant wait.
Nice review once again. :-D
Thanks for the offer - do you have any photos of your previous work?
Oh he'll be back - trust me (he basically kicks off Series 4 : Proper)
Maybe one day.
those wheels, were fantastic, they used less material than lms or lner wheels, were lighter and stronger.
You should fit her With a sound decoder ? You should think of getting a Nswgr 32 .class 3801 or a 60.class 4.8.4+4.8.4
It's a Southern engine, the headboard goes just above the buffer beam, not up the top like GWR engines.
You won't be dissapointed!
16 parts - we're about half way
haha yes! If only!
well you put the head bored to far up on southern railway they went about half way down the smoke box
hi i like your videos cool train what will the lego track be when done im a huge fan of lego and trains
it's the proper station kit
Not many engine models you see with Stephenson valve gear (think its called)
nice whats next? :)
want one so bad!
Oliver Bulliad Was a New Zealander!
Just to say that the headboard is in the wrong position but great review and great loco
Awesome vid. Thanks :)
I got the bournemouth belle train pack and it has a battle of britain class with air smooth casing in southern livery and with premium pullman coaches but it was like £170 to £200 so that is a drawback to it
a good tip!
Another great video!
When they say rebuilt, can they also say bullied? i heard it on this old documentary called STEAM.
are you talking about the accident that happened on December 4 1957?
5:48 Chaindriven valve gear
I admit I did misread the comment I put up you are right :)
on another note when you say 3 classes do you mean the Merchant navy class aswell? I don't want to cause an argument or anything but the merchant navy was built first and was heavier than the other 2. They couldn't run on some lines because of that so the other 2 classes were built