the problem with the color wheel

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  • @Lucpel18
    @Lucpel18  Рік тому +8

    New big video is out, self-promotion time: ua-cam.com/video/RXe5yZA1QQA/v-deo.html

    • @WilliamiteWilliamiteStudiosWWS
      @WilliamiteWilliamiteStudiosWWS 8 місяців тому +1

      You framed the colour wheel

    • @Spookihi
      @Spookihi 6 місяців тому

      This was a very informative video! Good job 🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏

  • @aphoneiguess
    @aphoneiguess Рік тому +1935

    its crazy how i had this same thought process one time and just spent forever trying to make a perfect color wheel

    • @jaxon3186
      @jaxon3186 Рік тому +86

      bro its crazy that some humans just decide to take accepted thought forms and fix them for ourselves.

    • @emmaporter8160
      @emmaporter8160 Рік тому +12

      In like Russia I’m pretty sure that they don’t differentiate between blue and green, so I figured why only three primary colors? I made a Color wheel with four and I’m quite happy with it.

    • @jaxon3186
      @jaxon3186 Рік тому +3

      ​@@emmaporter8160​ would you consider sharing the color wheel? I assume you have RYGB as your colors.

    • @myrix_dev
      @myrix_dev Рік тому +14

      @@emmaporter8160, as a Russian I can say that we do differentiate between blue and green. Japanese people don't.

    • @aetheralmeowstic2392
      @aetheralmeowstic2392 Рік тому +9

      @@emmaporter8160 No, they do. They also have cyan as a basic color word in their language (cyan isn't considered a basic color word in English, but rather an advanced one, per se)

  • @AmeenDoesStuff
    @AmeenDoesStuff Рік тому +1305

    this is actually such a high quality video
    even if it looks simple
    its informative, and the animation its conveyed through is actually rly nice

    • @shadowsnstars
      @shadowsnstars Рік тому +8

      my gosh i love your pfp

    • @nosh62
      @nosh62 Рік тому +24

      The only problem is that the audio is way too quiet

    • @spudothy
      @spudothy Рік тому +8

      it's just so dang quiet

    • @Zaina_Alsalman
      @Zaina_Alsalman Рік тому +1

      ikr! it feels like the beginning of a channel that blows up

    • @kaizacat3278
      @kaizacat3278 Рік тому +1

      Wait a minute, I know your channel, aren't you a JSAB creator? (Also I agree with you)

  • @Great_Blue
    @Great_Blue Рік тому +417

    Quick note, the K in CMYK does not stand for black, it stands for key. The key functions as the "base" color for printers, which is added as the darkest tone before the other layers are applied. Black usually makes the most sense here since most printing is done on white (or at least lighter) paper... however, a printer's key can theoretically be any color, and although it's rare to see non-black keys, it's also not completely set in stone.

    • @ibnuzzaki9859
      @ibnuzzaki9859 Рік тому +13

      Another mindblowing fact. Boom.

    • @CappTF
      @CappTF Рік тому +9

      I did not expect a comment from the weapon reskins bird on a video like this

    • @GALL0WSHUM0R
      @GALL0WSHUM0R Рік тому +4

      Ctrl + F "key" - nice, someone beat me to it :)

    • @ethanlivemere1162
      @ethanlivemere1162 Рік тому +4

      Color wheels have always been a strange case to me

    • @BronzeDragon133
      @BronzeDragon133 Рік тому +3

      I've asked for a Prussian blue key and been given The Look.

  • @GIRGHGH
    @GIRGHGH Рік тому +226

    The main thing is that colors opposite each other on the "bad" color wheel are meant to mix into unattractive colors like grey and brown, and Yellow seemed primary because no colors seem to mix in physical objects like paint to make it, or at least not brightly. The primaries were defined by what colors you can't mix others to get. Blue and yellow would seemingly mix to make green.

    • @BronzeDragon133
      @BronzeDragon133 Рік тому +10

      Oddly, the unattractive colors are some of my favorites. :-) Harmonious colors are next to each other on that wheel, but harmonious is also called boring. In the paint world, it's also very strange what you CAN mix to get colors; canceling the blue in a magenta results in a red. It's a grayish red, but a red. And to me, phthalocyanine green is its own color, not a mix, as it's a pure pigment--although I can mix ultramarine blue or phthalo blue and a cad or Hansa yellow to make green if I wanted.
      Most good, rich browns are technically in the red or orange range.

    • @lrizzard
      @lrizzard Рік тому +4

      i was also taught that the colours on opposite sides of each other look nice together. but i swear, yellow and purple always look ugly to me 😅 and some of my favorite color combos arent even opposites

    • @lrizzard
      @lrizzard Рік тому +3

      actually i just remembered after writing my comment, i remember one artist (and character designer) saying that in order to create color combos, you start with opposite colours and slightly change one. for example, from red and green you could get pink and green. or from yellow and purple you could get orange and purple, which im not mad about! this makes way more sense to me

    • @notwithouttext
      @notwithouttext Рік тому +3

      but what about when magenta and yellow make red

    • @hydrocharis1
      @hydrocharis1 Рік тому +4

      The 'printer colors' cmy look brighter than the 'led colors' rgb because they stimulate two receptors rather than one. Now, there's a reason why we use these brighter primary colors in printers, because when you mix pigments you will always absorb more light and make darker colors. Mixing light in screens is the reverse. If you mix red and green paint you get the color of olives which is actually dark yellow, just like teal is dark cyan and purple dark magenta. You can mix white back into it but then your color will be desaturated. This is why painters struggled for so long to obtain bright colors and used a variety of pigments.
      Theoretically pure blue (not leaning towards cyan) and yellow paint would give black as seen on the correct color wheel, as would red green and blue paint together. Problem with this though is that in practice blue pigments are weaker so you get more of a dark yellow color in the former case (olive) or dark orange (brown) in the latter case if you mix equal amounts. There is also this weird psychological thing that we seem to perceive yellow completely distinct from red and green, while cyan and magenta don't seem so radically different from green and blue/blue and red respectively. This adds to the historical confusion where red, blue and yellow where regarded as the primary colors, but we know better now. Hope this helps.

  • @cosmix_music
    @cosmix_music Рік тому +1426

    5:56 The reason magenta isn't on there is because it actually doesn't exist. That color is a mix of red and blue which means it activates those cones and so it would obviously go for the middle one, which is green. However, the green cone isn't activated, so the brain panics and makes magenta.

    • @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
      @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh Рік тому +68

      shouldnt it connect from the two sides, mixing red and blue though?

    • @Lucpel18
      @Lucpel18  Рік тому +368

      yeah i learned that after posting the video :) thanks for letting others know

    • @Fernsaur
      @Fernsaur Рік тому +30

      ​@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhhno because they are from opposite sides

    • @WolfgangDoW
      @WolfgangDoW Рік тому +140

      @@Lucpel18 to expand on this, i watched a video forever ago how we can't see yellowish blue, our brain defines these as opposites of each other. It's how the brain processes the signals from our cones
      Also language effects our perception a lot. Like how you mentioned that cyan isn't blue, many languages have 2 blues are standard (eg Italian blu vs azzurro, blue vs azure/sky blue). People who speak these languages can tell shades of those colours apart faster and more accurately/precisely. Some languages have 2 greens too as standard. A good example is in English pink is literally light red but you say that and people will swear blind pink is different, but it's not, they just perceive it as such due to language and culture
      Since learning Italian I literally can't not see blue and azure as different colours lol
      Languages also evolve new colour words in a strict order. Starting with white/light, black/dark, and red. Then you get blue or green, then you get green or blue
      This is why violets are blue, and robin redbreasts are actually orange. Those words didn't exist before, the concept of them being a different colour even didn't exist. Violet was a shade of blue, orange was a shade of red

    • @navyntune8158
      @navyntune8158 Рік тому +65

      green't

  • @AFasterSlowpoke
    @AFasterSlowpoke Рік тому +361

    This deserves more views

  • @_marshP
    @_marshP Рік тому +400

    Please note that adding colors works differently depending on the medium
    Adding all the colors of light will make white light.
    Adding all the colors of paint will make black paint (or at least a really really dark brown)

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +60

      Also important to note: many printers don't use subtractive mixing. Instead, they place tiny dots of CYMK that, from far away, merge together into an image.
      Each dot reflects a varying amount of C, M, and Y, thus acting like pixels. Hence additive instead of subractive mixing

    • @anitanielsen1061
      @anitanielsen1061 Рік тому +2

      Can confirm

    • @miss-laea
      @miss-laea Рік тому +29

      Thus the use of « subtractive » and « additive »
      Inks and pigments are subtractive, because they absorb light. Computers are additives, because they create light. When you « add » pigments together, you’re actually reducing the quantity of light that is reflected, which is why it’s called subtractive

    • @sadwasdead5065
      @sadwasdead5065 Рік тому +13

      yeah my brain runs on paint so i was really confused when he said that green and red make yellow

    • @antoniusnies-komponistpian2172
      @antoniusnies-komponistpian2172 Рік тому +9

      That's because colors are differently defined depending on the medium.
      Colors of light are defined by the light they reflect.
      Colors of paint are defined by the light they absorb.

  • @medvemapping7263
    @medvemapping7263 Рік тому +50

    Fun fact: The "wrong" color wheel is made for artists and paint mixing, but mixing paint colors actually act very similarly to additive color mixing.
    For example if you mix red and green paint you get a weird "brownish" color, which is actually a shade of yellow, but darker.
    Yeah, so the paint color wheel is useful in its own ways.

    • @perreban
      @perreban Рік тому +7

      If it was like additive color mixing wouldn't it turn lighter?

    • @medvemapping7263
      @medvemapping7263 Рік тому +1

      Yes. I guess it's like mixing the hue, but substracting the saturation.

    • @CarMedicine
      @CarMedicine Рік тому +3

      @@medvemapping7263 it's subtractive color mixing then :D

  • @Blaineworld
    @Blaineworld Рік тому +189

    Not directly related to the video, but i think Web-Safe Colors are a nice pixel-art palette. Web-Safe Colors are 3-digit hex codes where every value is a multiple of 3 (such as #000, #F63, and #90C). If you want to represent them as 6-digit hex codes, just duplicate each digit (#000000, #FF6633, and #9900CC).
    I like them because they include most of the colors you could want, but in rather large increments so you can get a “limited palette” feel and spend less time selecting colors.
    They’re called Web-Safe Colors because they were originally designed to appear consistent across all 8-bit displays for the purpose of making websites.
    Sometimes I like to modify the Web-Safe palette a bit to suit a certain project. For example, I could replace the second digit of each value with 0 for the background and F for characters, so that I can use the “same” color on the characters and background without them blending together (this also makes the background slightly darker so it’s easier on your eyes).

    • @VeryRGOTI
      @VeryRGOTI Рік тому +6

      Interesting, thanks for sharing

    • @lilyofluck371
      @lilyofluck371 Рік тому +5

      genius, I'll keep this in mind

    • @itsporpo1
      @itsporpo1 Рік тому +6

      oh my god. this is exactly the advice i've been looking for, thank you so much!!

    • @Blaineworld
      @Blaineworld Рік тому +6

      @@itsporpo1 while web-safe colors can provide a nice base, it’s still important to tweak your colors for your project!
      have fun i guess

    • @floresilla
      @floresilla Рік тому +1

      @@itsporpo1 bob

  • @jerssh
    @jerssh Рік тому +52

    It feels strange to say, but arguing what the primary colours were in highschool was the first time i realized how much evidence some people were willing to ignore to avoid changing their beliefs

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +8

      it's insane that we have access to basically all human knowledge via a quick google search, yet some people can still be ignorant about the most basic facts

    • @MissCaraMint
      @MissCaraMint Рік тому +14

      I suppose because it’d so counterintuitive. We’ve all played with paints as kids, and we’ve all mixed blue and yellow to make green. It seemslike such a basic thing that I think it’s cognetively hard for people to wrap their minds around the consept that green is a primary color when they often had to mix two colors to get it.

    • @jerssh
      @jerssh Рік тому +9

      @@MissCaraMint True, but we also live in a world dominated by rgb panels, and I mean- if you get close enough to a (low-res) monitor you can literally SEE the green sub-pixels. I also argued with this guy for days, he just kinda didn't wanna admit I was right

    • @Swagpion
      @Swagpion Рік тому +1

      You spelt color wrong

    • @jerssh
      @jerssh Рік тому

      @@Swagpion When I was in the 2nd grade I got a 9/10 on a spelling test because I spelled it colour. I was so destroyed that I looked it up in the dictionary, and when I saw both spellings written down I made a vow to exclusively spell it colour as an act of defiance. Fuck you mrs. Tucker, I should have gotten full points

  • @jaxon3186
    @jaxon3186 Рік тому +310

    okay, okay. I actually had this exact same problem when thinking about color theory a couple months ago. I wanted to individualize each color to make them as distinct as possible, but the RYB wheel had way too many oranges and not enough cools. So after extensive research, I also remade the color wheel to be exactly like this guy's, with red, yellow, green, cyan, deep blue, and magenta as the primary colors and orange, lime, teal, light blue, purple, and rose as the secondaries. It fits much better and combines the RGB with CMY schemes!
    Edit: after finishing the video I noticed you had an among us reference, so I will explain my reason for my color theory... among us. I wanted to figure out the most optimal colors for among us characters because I didn't like the new ones. There you go.

    • @greenberrygk
      @greenberrygk Рік тому +3

      what is the difference between teal, cyan, and light blue

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount Рік тому +14

      @@greenberrygk teal is dark cyan, just like how brown is dark orange. Cyan is cyan. I’m not sure what you’re referring to by saying “light blue” but I’ll assume that you mean the color that’s commonly called sky blue, which is low saturation cyan-blue.

    • @jaxon3186
      @jaxon3186 Рік тому +1

      @@Periwinkleaccount correction; what I mean by teal is the blue-cyan mixture, not dark cyan. I am probably using the wrong word. Light blue is cyan and blue. If you watch the video his color wheel has these same colors I just wrote my names for them here

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 Рік тому +4

      @@Periwinkleaccount I prefer to call it Capri. Light blue is a dumb misnomer caused by light temperature impacting how people perceive brightness. An actual lighter blue would be periwinkle. Even Unicode got it wrong by rejecting magenta and cyan in favor of "pink" and "light blue" hearts 💜 💙

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 Рік тому +5

      @@jaxon3186 The color between blue and cyan is Azure. Teal is a dark Turquoise which is 165° on the color wheel.

  • @burn.the.evidence
    @burn.the.evidence Рік тому +15

    What really makes my blood boil is not only the fact that for some reason so little people in art dont know about this and that they teach the wrong colour wheel in school but for SOME REASON when I tell people what primary colors actually are they act like Im crazy
    and when i TRY to explain they pretend im arguing with them LIKE BRO ITS NOT MY OPINION THIS IS A SCIETIFICT FACT WHY IS THIS CONCEPT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +4

      The color wheels in literally every major drawing program uses the RGB / CYM wheel.
      You'd think they would notice the conflicing messages.

    • @laniakeas92
      @laniakeas92 Рік тому +6

      ​​​​​​​@@namef true
      But that is not how real colors (pigments) work. Which works for traditional media doesn't work for digital art.
      And even in digital art combining that blue and red won't give you this delicious saturated magenta. Good luck in trying to get it.
      And combining green and blue won't result in having saturated delicious clear cyan. Just open and digital program and try it right now haha.
      And on the contrary yellow plus blue result in green in traditional media, red and blue result in purple and so on. That scheme works completely OK and people so far have been able to create masterpieces.
      But in future maybe we will be able to get a color mixing engine in digital media which covers how actual color works. Would be cool.

  • @leapfroggrr
    @leapfroggrr Рік тому +112

    im shocked at the fact this has so few views. this is such a cool thought and the way people are taught ryb first has always been weird considering rgb is how we perceive light.

    • @EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15
      @EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15 Рік тому +11

      Yeah, RYB really isn't how color actually works. Like, at all. You can _sometimes_ mix good colors with those three, but your gamut is going to be quite limited in practice.

    • @coolbreezeinsummer
      @coolbreezeinsummer Рік тому

      @@EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15 It is how the most common pigments work, Magenta is an illusion, there is nothing between 380 violet and 750 red such are at opposing sides of the spectrum. Something quite interesting that I found was a “color wheel for artists” made by
      Handprints that has pigments and their practical interactions rather than theoretical.

    • @sean_underneath
      @sean_underneath Рік тому +5

      ​@@EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15yeah, shouldn't they be teaching CMY instead?

    • @sophiefilo16
      @sophiefilo16 Рік тому +3

      I don't know what the view count was 4 days ago, but 75k is nothing to sneeze at...

    • @tjtribble.
      @tjtribble. Рік тому

      It’s ridiculously quiet, but 70k is still pretty good.

  • @lankymaccrazyhair264
    @lankymaccrazyhair264 Рік тому +4

    The more i learn about color theory, the less sense it makes.

    • @ukrainian_mf
      @ukrainian_mf Рік тому +2

      The color is beige, the shade is purple, WHY

  • @archer4424
    @archer4424 Рік тому +11

    This is actually such a good point- I've always just done like 3 separate wheels for the different types of light/colour theory (like one for CMYK, one for RGB, etc) but having it laid out like this makes a lot more sense I think. Good job!

  • @isomeme
    @isomeme Рік тому +21

    Great video! Regarding where to put UV, thanks to an unusual eye surgery I can see UV light in one of my eyes. It looks white, tinged with just a hint of electric blue. The only way I know I'm seeing UV is that my eyes disagree about the brightness and color of what I'm looking at.
    My ophthalmologist explained that the cornea and lens are mostly opaque to UV, so normally none of it reaches your retina. Therefore the color-detecting cone cells never evolved differential responses at UV frequencies; they all respond equally to UV light. Equal inputs from the RGB detectors is interpreted as white, so UV looks white.

    • @pro-lapser
      @pro-lapser 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, and if IR photography is anything to go by, IR goes from very red to pink... Magenta... Something, depending on how much you filter the rest of the light spectrum.
      Your comment also makes a lot of sense when you see anti-UV lens filters and how they change pictures, and they do indeed make a subtle change in the colors you mention, specially that blue tint

  • @karl6683
    @karl6683 Рік тому +26

    This is why i like FlipaClip's kind of colour wheel. It has *every single colour.* and you can't argue with that.

    • @melol69
      @melol69 Рік тому +2

      idk what that one is like but i just use 3 rgb sliders which is kinda hard to understand at first but eventually it gets pretty easy

    • @karl6683
      @karl6683 Рік тому +2

      ​@@melol69 oh flipaclips one is like this: Circle around a square, the circle shows the colours fading into eachother. And the square in the middle is where you choose the shade, with the usual, brightest of the colour being on the top right, White on the top left, and black on both sides at the bottom. Or atleast that's how good I myself can explain it...

    • @kadekeys
      @kadekeys Рік тому +2

      @@karl6683 what you're describing is pretty standard as far as digital art programs go. it uses the spectrum color wheel, instead of categorizing them, which is what this video is talking about.

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 Рік тому +3

      Most programs use a color system called HSV color where the H stands for hue which is mapped to a circle in much the same way.

  • @Crystal_Drawings
    @Crystal_Drawings Рік тому +41

    Ikr!
    We’re all taught red blue and yellow were the primary colours, but cmyk are for paint/printers and RGB is for computer screens!
    SINCE WHEN WAS THE RED BLUE AND YELLOW INVOLVED

    • @Fernsaur
      @Fernsaur Рік тому +18

      RYB was made because schools considered cyan and magenta to be too "complicated", which is pretty stupid imo

    • @want-diversecontent3887
      @want-diversecontent3887 Рік тому +3

      I'm guessing cyan and magenta paint's harder to produce than red and blue, and they're a good enough approximation anyway.

    • @stephaniethebatter7975
      @stephaniethebatter7975 Рік тому +10

      Probably because paint. RYB primary colours are for paint and for mixing paint.

    • @loygeeAGAIN
      @loygeeAGAIN Рік тому +11

      RYB are the primary colours for pigment and you use it with paint

    • @flamingpi2245
      @flamingpi2245 Рік тому

      Why do we still teach children this crap? I’m going to have to pull up a paint program and re-educate mine

  • @actuallyazurite
    @actuallyazurite Рік тому +24

    my science class just finished the light section and when my teacher was teaching about the additive colours of light, i was definitely confused on why yellow was a primary colour
    ur vid def helped me understand all that a bit better, and its great to know why the rgb/cmy way is correct

  • @Liboo52
    @Liboo52 Рік тому +7

    It’s really satisfying how RGB and CMY are organized in overlapping triads on the revised wheel

  • @djangel3108
    @djangel3108 Рік тому +9

    This is a pretty cool vid, tbh we should have a cmyk colour wheel as that would make things easier for digital artists.

  • @newzealandgaming9321
    @newzealandgaming9321 Рік тому +5

    Ever since I was a child, I thought Cyan had more of a reason to exist as a secondary color than Orange did.

  • @stapoldy_propaganda_account
    @stapoldy_propaganda_account Рік тому +7

    0:28 **sees red and teal labeled as 'doesn't go well together,'**
    me: bLOCKED AND REPORTED

  • @Soonray09
    @Soonray09 Рік тому +4

    TBH I spent some time in my life getting annoyed at people putting orange with these six 'main' colours. It just started making no sense when I got to care about RGB.

  • @VVYPUR_ONX
    @VVYPUR_ONX Рік тому +5

    The normal color wheel does make sense it’s just that traditional art uses Red,Blue,Yellow, while digital uses Red,Blue,Green. Because the whole thing for primary colors is that thy can’t be made by mixing other colors, so for traditional art if you mixed red and green paint you wouldn’t get yellow you would get a brownish color, hence why yellow for traditional art is a primary. The wheel created in the video is good for digital artists, but I don’t think the complimentary colors would quite match up, but that’s my opinion.

  • @T33K3SS3LCH3N
    @T33K3SS3LCH3N Рік тому +9

    5:35 the reason why the second colors/CMB are so prominent is interesting.
    The color bar just shows the fully saturated colors. For RGB, this is easy to understand:
    Red - 1,0,0 (100% red, 0% green and blue)
    Green - 0,1,0
    Compared to 50% grey: 0.5, 0.5, 0 5
    If you want to de-saturate the red, you can make it "more like grey" by bringing the channel values closer together: 0.75, 0.25, 0.25.
    So "saturation" has something to do with the difference between the highest and lowest colour channel.
    But the secondary colours manage to be fully saturated while having two channels at 100% brightness. Like yellow: 1,1,0.
    So in RGB colour sliders, they often stick out as brighter than the rest.

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому

      Kinda related: unlike Red or Blue or most colors, there isn't a specific wavelength of light that corresponds to the color Yellow.
      Instead, what we see as Yellow is actually a combination of green, yellow-green, orange, and red wavelengths.

    • @coolbreezeinsummer
      @coolbreezeinsummer Рік тому +2

      @@namef Between 570 and 590, is the yellow wavelength. We don’t have yellow cones, so we can only perceive some “duller” yellows compared to the intense greens we can see. Neither do computers, LED screens can only represent a portion of the visual color spectrum. Some pigments get closer but pigments interact in all sorts of ways not just additive and subtractive.

  • @Fernsaur
    @Fernsaur Рік тому +41

    Finally someone with the same opinion as me! I keep trying to explain this whole concept to people, but they never seem to understand. I'm glad I could find more like-minded people here.

    • @blockywow
      @blockywow Рік тому

      E

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +5

      It's genuinely concerning how many people just don't think to double check.
      It's even worse when these people post tutorials with the wrong info. It unfortunately creates a self propagating wave of bad information

  • @unluckybean2800
    @unluckybean2800 Рік тому +9

    feels kinda empty without no copyrighted generic background music, really nice tho.
    also.. REDISH MAGENTA EXISTS?!!?

    • @Lucpel18
      @Lucpel18  Рік тому +4

      yep it does but there's something really interesting about it.. maybe i'll talk about it in a later video

    • @Lucpel18
      @Lucpel18  Рік тому +3

      and thanks for the advice

    • @unluckybean2800
      @unluckybean2800 Рік тому

      @@Lucpel18 ayee thx to you for giving this content, i actually think you need more subs ngl

    • @howdoipickaname9815
      @howdoipickaname9815 Рік тому +1

      @@Lucpel18 it's called "rose"

    • @Whimsykit
      @Whimsykit Рік тому

      fuchsia basically

  • @themuffinmanrealnocap5797
    @themuffinmanrealnocap5797 Рік тому +19

    YES! Someone else who believes cyan is its own color and not a shade of blue!

  • @jimmybane5352
    @jimmybane5352 Рік тому +2

    I don’t know why, but I love your animation so much, it makes my eyes happy

  • @Robin-ps9wq
    @Robin-ps9wq Рік тому +1

    This video is halarious! Awesome job man you had me laughing out loud. Your animations are top tier humor

  • @grovitemultiverse
    @grovitemultiverse Рік тому +4

    Very interesting video, and I do like your proposed new version. Appreciate your support of cyan and magenta independence as well!

    • @Fernsaur
      @Fernsaur Рік тому +2

      Yes! Idk why but it makes me really angry when people don't recognize cyan and magenta as their own colors and instead treat them as shades of others

  • @twisty3858
    @twisty3858 Рік тому +12

    The colour wheel most commonly taught and seen on google has yellow as a primary instead of green because paint does act differently than digital regarding colour, red and blue paint makes purple so if you want magenta you need to add either a premixed pink or white and more red. To make green you just need yellow and blue. Both colour wheels are correct in their respective contexts like you mentioned in the video. This was fun to watch and I finally learned why computers use rgb :D

    • @flamingpi2245
      @flamingpi2245 Рік тому +6

      No that is false
      The RYB system is incorrect and always wrong and dumb and warm skewed
      The CMY system will always work, you just need to do a bit more mixing, but you can get so many more things
      Try making jade green or fuchsia with ryb, you can’t

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +1

      Technically speaking, CYM has the widest gamut of any three subtractive primaries, meaning it can mix into the most colors (thats why printers use CMYK)
      Using RYB will result in a warm-cool alinged feel, but CYM will be the most accurate

    • @CarMedicine
      @CarMedicine Рік тому +3

      "Paint acts differently than digital!"
      yes it acts like ink :) (CMYK)
      because it's a light reflector, not a light source.

  • @goobs..
    @goobs.. Рік тому +1

    keep making these! its super engaging and funny, while also being informative in an easy-to-digest way. can’t believe you only have 5k subs!!

  • @notiontrap8369
    @notiontrap8369 Рік тому +2

    your channel gonna blow up. so underrated

  • @Charessel
    @Charessel Рік тому +3

    This was funny yet actually a really good video.
    Bravo man.

  • @kanekochou
    @kanekochou Рік тому +5

    I think the color wheel stretches the warm colors so that complimentary colors sit opposite each other, and other color combos like triadic or tetriadic are easy for us artists to find. It definitely seems like more of a usage choice then a scientific one. I'd be interested to see a version of your color wheel that emphasizes cmyk, while still putting everything in an easily sortable location - if such a wheel is even possible? Good video btw! Gives me something to chew on next time Im messing with colors

  • @totoreshkagaming3399
    @totoreshkagaming3399 Рік тому +38

    In russian cyan is голубой (pronounced ga-loo-boi) and the darker blue is синий (pronounced si-niy) ( completley different words, and they are always taught to even like kindergarteners). So basically you (english) will say blue object, where its hard to differentiate (for an average person (not an artist)) wether its light blue or dark blue, but i (russian) can say синий and its obvious im talking bout blue (as in the rgb one)

    • @huhhuh9598
      @huhhuh9598 Рік тому +4

      Hungarian also has an extra colour name, but it’s for two types of red
      Bright red is "piros" while dark and less saturated red is "vörös"

    • @epkoda
      @epkoda Рік тому +3

      there have also been studies which show that people whose native language includes two words for blue (like russian) can see more shades of blue! they were able to better differentiate between slightly different shades of blue compared to, for example, english speakers. I don't know if there have been studies on this with red and hungarian speakers, but I wonder if the same thing would be true 🤔

    • @jaehyukmysunshine8904
      @jaehyukmysunshine8904 Рік тому

      In spanish Light blue is Celeste, while Blue is Azul Two completely different words too :p

  • @TheAmazingCowpig
    @TheAmazingCowpig Рік тому +1

    As someone who already knew color theory pretty good, this was an endlessly entertaining animated explanation of it all, and a surprisingly compact video to boot.
    I was rewinding just because it was that funny.
    Good job.

  • @Google_remote
    @Google_remote Рік тому +1

    thank you so much for this video, its so hard to sleep at night when the color green is so under appreciated

  • @Ceereeal
    @Ceereeal Рік тому +51

    I had this exact thought process a few months ago. Also to answer the end of the video about Magenta, it's technically not a "real" color in the sense that it doesn't exist as a wavelength of light, but rather just a phenomenon generated by our eyes when we see a mixture of violet and red light.

    • @Fernsaur
      @Fernsaur Рік тому +4

      Yeah our brain gets confused

    • @exylic
      @exylic Рік тому +9

      ​@@Fernsaur Our brain isnt involved or "confused". In order for the eyes to detect light, the visual spectrum sent to the eye (which is very rarely a single monochromatic wavelength) is absorbed by and consequently scalar-multiplied by the response curve of a cone, resulting in only three values total even sent to the brain. Attempting to describe the real-world color wavelength spectrum curves which objects emit, consisting of billions of photons of varying wavelength, and which our brains interpret as color, by using only a single wavelength, is unreasonable, pedantic, non-scientific, and even less accurate to the real spectrum than the human vision model.

    • @victzegopterix2
      @victzegopterix2 Рік тому +5

      It's stupid to pretend that a colour is less real than the others, or at last if you admit than one is not, you have to admit that none do as they're all perceptions, there's no colour in the physical world, just light wavelengths, some just correspond to our perceptions.
      Except when they do not, lol, 'cause that process also work with yellow and cyan, it you see at the same time photons with wavelengths capted by red and green cones but nothing in between, you'll see yellow even though there's no wavelength that we associate with yellow, so by that logic yellow would also not exist but just in some cases even if you don't feel any difference.

    • @Ceereeal
      @Ceereeal Рік тому

      @@victzegopterix2 true, I guess I was just saying that our perception of magenta doesn’t involve a singular wavelength of light like it could for the other hues of the spectrum, even though those hues can also be perceived via multiple wavelength combinations

    • @RedoStone35
      @RedoStone35 Рік тому

      you spelt colour wrong

  • @digitalgreenery
    @digitalgreenery Рік тому +14

    I ended up doing a similar thing for my color system, but went all the way to quaternary colors with a name for each tint, shade, and tone along with white, black, and grey. This gives my system 99 easy to remember colors with conventional color names. I am still tweaking it, but the quaternary hues are Red, Vermilion, Orange, Amber, Yellow, Peridot, Chartreuse, Lime, Green, Emerald, Mint, Turquoise, Cyan, Capri, Azure, Cerulean, Blue, Indigo, Violet, Purple, Magenta, Fuchsia, Rose, and Crimson.

  • @canhedotricks6078
    @canhedotricks6078 Рік тому +1

    This video is awesome! I would love to see a part 2. Colour is a topic that really interests me.

  • @user-st4hj6bd1r
    @user-st4hj6bd1r Рік тому

    A very fun and informative video! Loved it! Definitely would like to see more long format rant/ explanatory videos!

  • @adtdadtd3769
    @adtdadtd3769 Рік тому +5

    A really informative video, noice

  • @DogSkipsStone
    @DogSkipsStone Рік тому +3

    this helps me understand some things about color now thanks

  • @BigElite0021
    @BigElite0021 Рік тому +2

    Awesome video man, I was thinking of the very same thing yesterday (about the uv and ir light placement). One thing I would like is some cited sources for some of the stuff you pulled from. Otherwise great video format, it was fun to watch and had fantastic editing!

  • @MrNeeeooo
    @MrNeeeooo Рік тому

    This is very inspirational for me. Brilliant content , and extremely informative in such a short space of time. Please do part two. Im I’m really looking forward to it as im working with a friend on daltonism, a.k.a. colourblindness monochromacy and partial monochromacy keep up the great work. There is so much to be done for all vision types

  • @souljones3153
    @souljones3153 Рік тому +3

    My teacher just said, "the color reflects off the thing, that's what color it is," or something like that. So it made no sense to me, I thought, "why would the color it tries to get rid of be the color it is?" But when you said, "it deflects off the object and into our eyes," it made so much sense to me. (I did know abt the white and black colored stuff btw)

  • @abigailverrengia8791
    @abigailverrengia8791 Рік тому +4

    rgb is used for colors of light (screens, lights, etc)
    cmyk is used for colors of pigment (paint, printers, etc.)
    theyre subtractive because lets say if you mixed cyan and magenta pigment, the cyan pigment absorbs red light only and the magenta pigment absorbs green light only so combined the absorb green and red light, only reflecting the blue light, making blue
    they absorb all colors any individual pigment in the mix absorbs meanwhile with colors of light, adding colors reflects more light into your eye

  • @mateeeeeo
    @mateeeeeo Рік тому +1

    great vid, definetly deserves more views

  • @Yozo_official
    @Yozo_official Рік тому

    I love this. This channel has much potential.

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876
    @jensphiliphohmann1876 Рік тому +4

    03:45 f: The "k" for "black" stands for "key" because the traditional black printing plate was called the key plate.
    However, as a German speaker, I have another mnemonic:
    Using black ink or toner improves the light- dark contrast, and the German word for "contrast" is basically the same word but beginning with "k".

  • @clobre_
    @clobre_ Рік тому +13

    Some things you may have forgot to mention and that I think are important:
    • The average person has 3 cone cells that each detect red, green, and blue light. This is why RGB screens use these colors; because they produce the highest range of colors. You could use different colored LCDs, but they would produce more washed-out colors compared to the red, green, and blue ones since those are the ones that your eye directly detects. If you mix yellow and cyan light, your eyes will see a desaturated green, not a non-existent color.
    • The entire spectrum of colors does not include colors between red and blue because they are only a mix of the red and blue wavelengths, not actual wavelengths. Going beyond red is infrared, and beyond blue is ultraviolet. If you look at the visible spectrum of light through a prism, or at a rainbow, you will not see purple unless it is a faded double/triple rainbow, and there is another one nested inside it.
    And a slightly irrelevant one that I find interesting:
    • Computer screens cannot display all the colors you see. They cannot display colors beyond red, green, and blue. The colors you see on a screen are mixes of the red, green, and blue wavelengths. A sodium-vapor lamp only produces light near the wavelength 589 nm. Why is this relevant? With a sodium-vapor lamp as the only light source in an area, you would not be able to distinguish colors. You would see objects that reflect 589 nm as whiter than objects that reflect light in different wavelengths. If you took an image on a computer that tries to approximate this, you would not see things like this, and would still be able to distinguish colors. This is because the display still only uses red, green, and blue.

    • @RedoStone35
      @RedoStone35 Рік тому

      you spelt colours wrong

    • @clobre_
      @clobre_ Рік тому +4

      @@RedoStone35 The spelling "color" is used in the USA and occasionally in other English speaking countries, since a lot of the internet is in American English. I am Canadian, but since this video uses the American spelling, I decided to use the American spelling. None of these spellings are "wrong".

  • @sarahb4906
    @sarahb4906 Рік тому

    This was very entertaining. Thanks for making this.

  • @baksoBoy
    @baksoBoy Рік тому

    Amazing video! I love the humor!
    I think that you are really underrated!

  • @user-tb5pq9ml8m
    @user-tb5pq9ml8m Рік тому +3

    The classic color wheel is also helpful for color theory. The colors opposite each other are complementary.

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +4

      I would agure that the RGB / CYM color wheel also has complementary colors on opposite sides

    • @hydrocharis1
      @hydrocharis1 Рік тому +3

      If a chemical absorbs red light it looks cyan, green light magenta and blue light yellow. These are the real opposite colors. RYB is based on historical misconceptions.

  • @ToasterEatingToasted
    @ToasterEatingToasted Рік тому +7

    This is an awesome video but I have a question, why is yellow not a primary colour? You may have already explained this because I was watching with background noise

    • @Lucpel18
      @Lucpel18  Рік тому +9

      Red, blue, and yellow work for things like paint, but our eyes see colors in red, blue, and green. There are some really small physical objects called "cones" in the backs of our eyes, and there are three types of them, which are red, green, and blue. Hope that cleared up some of it.

  • @Atticus_Animations
    @Atticus_Animations Рік тому

    Amazing video I love how you used simple and funny drewings to explain things

  • @cubicklecub
    @cubicklecub Рік тому

    Amazing I’ve always wanted to make a video about this exact subject thx !

  • @GGysar
    @GGysar Рік тому +3

    I mean... you could just use another representation like the cube, which is commonly used for rgb and cmy, or maybe a cone or cylinder, which are commonly used to explain the HSV colour space. The problem with those colour spaces is, by the way, that they don't cover every colour you can see, sooo, maybe just use the CIELAB colour space and its model. It's pretty much the most perceptually uniform colour space you can get, which means the relationships between colours are as we perceive them (the distance between orange and red for example) and covers every colour humans can see, which means it isn't bound to a medium. It would be useful for traditional art. For digital art an rgb color wheel or the cube makes sense since the gamut is smaller than the CIELAB gamut, but if you want to print things using the CMY model as a basis for your colour wheel is a good idea.

  • @OddlyAnimated1203
    @OddlyAnimated1203 Рік тому +4

    2:57 Bruh, I always confuse yellow as a primary color and thinking whether if was green out blue as the last primary color 😂😂 got a but of shock after realizing that it's not.
    Edit: Yo, I should check my comments before commenting, even I can't understand what I wrote (and I don't intend to fix it)

    • @Whimsykit
      @Whimsykit Рік тому

      Yellow is a primary color of *light.* Everywhere else, it uses green instead.

    • @JJean64
      @JJean64 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Whimsykit
      No, yellow is a primary color of paint, not light

    • @runava489
      @runava489 Рік тому

      Yeah same but it’s al school’s fault

    • @frystalcrire
      @frystalcrire Рік тому

      @@Whimsykitno light is red GREEN and blue

  • @Xlplitix
    @Xlplitix Рік тому +1

    I found this when it had 200 views now it's has 50k keep up the great work ❤

  • @Daman6973
    @Daman6973 Рік тому

    I was thinking of this a while ago, and was even planning on making a video on it, I’m so glad someone covered this topic

  • @brennoc1623
    @brennoc1623 Рік тому +5

    3:08 ParashockX moment

  • @neto690
    @neto690 Рік тому +4

    Gostei mano, faça mais!

  • @Foervraengd
    @Foervraengd Рік тому +2

    i love that this is like a never ending topic in the art world. James gurney mention this in his book “light and color” and essentially there are basically more than just one type of color wheel.

  • @axyrl
    @axyrl Рік тому

    subbed b/c of this, good video!

  • @SantsunTheDemon
    @SantsunTheDemon Рік тому +4

    I thought this guy had at least 100k+ subs, I was quite surprised to find out I was wrong

  • @TennoSkoom
    @TennoSkoom Рік тому +3

    What is most curious for me is that color despite being an objective quality of any object, is largely perceived through language.
    Some people in the comments already mentioned how Russian has one additional primary color word for azure (голубой) as opposed to blue (синий). Which is why there's less ambiguity inside the cool color spectrum in Russian compared to English.
    But there's more to this. Even inside a particular language, different words for color aren't the same. For example red and blue - both primary words for color. However notice how red us much less ambiguous than blue. You say "red", and it's a very specific color, not red-orange, not pink, not rose, but *red*, but you say "blue" and that is instead perceived as wide variety of shades, almost the entire cool part of the spectrum can be described as blue.
    Or well at least that's how it is for me and my immediate surroundings. Still, that's a thing I find interesting.

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +1

      I remember being blown away when I discovered Brown is just Dark-orange.
      Language is crazy influential to how we experience the world

  • @snazzyostrich
    @snazzyostrich Рік тому

    this is rly well made

  • @hjtomi_
    @hjtomi_ Рік тому

    This is an absolute banger of a video

  • @rexspecificallyredrex64rem73
    @rexspecificallyredrex64rem73 Рік тому +3

    FINALLY SOMEONE FUCKING SAID IT
    I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THIS STUFF FOR **YEARS**
    AMATEUR ARTISTS SPREADING **LIES** LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF ORANGE IS BLUE AND NOT YELLOW OR GREEN IS THE OPPOSITE OF RED
    (The opposite of orange is azure (blue-cyan.))
    If cyan and azure are shades of blue, and lime and aqua (green-cyan) are shades of green, then orange and rose (magenta-red, I sometimes call it false-red flol, the type of red like in Super Sayian God Goku- the first one-) are shades of red. Which is backed up historically, which is why people with orange hair, are called redheads, and same for animals, because orange is named after the fruit, and was considered a shade of red until recently in history.

  • @memetech-
    @memetech- Рік тому +3

    0:17 I see 3 identical blues and bright blue and green and barely yellow and orangey-red and red

  • @AyreadelEdits
    @AyreadelEdits Рік тому +2

    You have good animation skills

  • @ULTRAVCATASTROPHE
    @ULTRAVCATASTROPHE Рік тому

    Good video and good humor !!! I hope u make more like this

  • @Leafyphox
    @Leafyphox Рік тому +8

    Fun fact, violet and magenta are just each chart's ideal purple. And since their respective ideal complementaries are yellow and green, chartreuse is complementary in both wheels to the tertiary purple. Also, just wait till you find out about the _natural color system_ , oh boy.

    • @namef
      @namef Рік тому +1

      The rabbit hole of color spaces goes so… so… deep

    • @skrulgrills
      @skrulgrills Рік тому +1

      u even got the color wheel as yo pfp lmfaooo

    • @Leafyphox
      @Leafyphox Рік тому

      @@skrulgrills indeed I do.

    • @juliens8587
      @juliens8587 Рік тому

      NCS is just a biased & failed representation of the opponent color theory. Even HSL that can sometimes do very incorrect calculations with RGB values is far more better than NCS because the positions of red, green, blue, cyan, magenta and yellow are so much closer to their same positions on a correct diagram of our hue perception than their NCS positions. That means even a simple RGB color wheel can better serve the purpose of color matching than NCS. NCS is just a more developed version of the RYB color wheel imo

  • @user-cq8mb9os9o
    @user-cq8mb9os9o Рік тому +2

    I never understood the point of RYB color wheel. Good video!

  • @nerdporkspass1m1st78
    @nerdporkspass1m1st78 Рік тому

    I love this video! Reminds me a lot of cheesy hfj!

  • @disklamer
    @disklamer Рік тому +3

    Since each person perceives color slightly differently, and we have a varying sensitivity to colors and light intensity, there is a unique color wheel for each and every one of us.

  • @ronaldiplodicus
    @ronaldiplodicus Рік тому +11

    Paint isn't additive or subtractive though. When you mix 2 paints you get the average colour between them, hence why primaries with higher contrast are used. Having really dark blue and light yellow allows for a huge range of greens inbetween, so they make more sense as primaries in that context. Red is used instead of magenta on normal colour wheels because they just look similar and red is more common in nature.

  • @rgcomets
    @rgcomets Рік тому

    BRO YOU ARE SO TALENTED YOU DESERVE MORE LIKES AND SUBS

  • @Lexicophage
    @Lexicophage Рік тому

    I loved your video! Make more about color and stuff! Plz & thx.

  • @Beregorn88
    @Beregorn88 Рік тому +4

    This is probably one of the most incomplete and misinformative take on the topic I have seen in a while. I can guess why, reading the video description, but I think you should do some thorough research on color theory and vision before releasing an "educational" video on the topic...

    • @user-qx7jm7by2x
      @user-qx7jm7by2x Рік тому +2

      Agree with you. I'm a painter and learned a lot about colours and know that there are a lot of professional scientific literature about it. Also there are a lot of circles and theories. This video doesn't represent full information. It seems impossible to do.

    • @juliens8587
      @juliens8587 Рік тому +4

      Yeah it’s just so incomplete and that Game Theory claim was bs, lol

  • @sydneygorelick7484
    @sydneygorelick7484 Рік тому

    Wow! And it works quite well for color mixing too: a warm blue/indigo (blue on your color wheel) mixed with yellow gets a very dull grey-green, cyan + scarlet will not get you purple, and pink/magenta and green will get you grey as well. As someone learning watercolor, I'm already thinking this way in my color mixing, and seeing it laid out so nicely is very beautiful!

    • @sydneygorelick7484
      @sydneygorelick7484 Рік тому

      You've also validated my decision to include 2 blues, multiple greens, and no orange in my palette XD

  • @IanK369
    @IanK369 Рік тому +2

    I don't know what color is anymore. Thanks for turning my world upside down.

  • @psychedelicsees1895
    @psychedelicsees1895 Рік тому

    I pretty much feel the same way on every single part of this video. Extremely validating thank yoy

  • @edwardblair4096
    @edwardblair4096 Рік тому +1

    Will your next video be on shades, tones, and saturation levels? Or maybe answering the question "Is brown an actual color?"

  • @Kozakology
    @Kozakology Рік тому

    Excellent video! (PS. "K" for CMYK is because it is the "key" color when printing) Really funny animation as well!

  • @skyjumper4097
    @skyjumper4097 Рік тому

    please part 2 this is so great i wanna learn more about this

  • @theawkwardnoob
    @theawkwardnoob Рік тому +2

    not even 200 subscribers? thats it im subscribing

  • @terraprint9183
    @terraprint9183 Рік тому +2

    Pretty good summary actually
    surprised this only has a thousand views after nearly a month

  • @n_kau
    @n_kau Рік тому +1

    Wow, in just 6:06 minutes, you explained it pretty well for my baby brain. Thanks!

  • @brietterfly9219
    @brietterfly9219 Рік тому

    This held my attention, which is very rare in todays world. I comment your efforts

  • @robotdude4321
    @robotdude4321 Рік тому

    As a person who always wanted to study and know about colors . Thank you for the video it helps alot

  • @l3vi13
    @l3vi13 Рік тому +1

    Congrats on 4k

  • @Thrarm
    @Thrarm Рік тому

    bro i thought you had like 500K subs with this video quality this is amazing

  • @pedrohdalla
    @pedrohdalla Рік тому

    The editing on this video is so good

  • @brainfaucet
    @brainfaucet Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing! Keep blowing peoples' minds!