Chronic Diarrhea On Carnivore Diet? Excess Bile, FXR & Inflammation
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2019
- Do you experience chronic diarrhea on a carnivore diet? Have you stuck at it through the "adaptation" period, yet are still unable to digest fat very well?
Does your digestion improve after eating some rice, fruit, or vegetables?
Have you tried ox bile, digestive enzymes, and every other method, yet have not found any relief?
Well, you may have an issue with recycling bile acids. Rather than not having enough bile, you may actually have TOO MUCH bile.
In this video, I explain the possible mechanisms underlying a condition called primary bile acid malabsorption/diarrhea, and look at some of the factors which may be involved in this.
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Watching this from my toilet!!!
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EO, you get the award for the most underrated channel on youtube. I predict greatness in your future.
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I’m an IBD postdoctoral researcher; he’s hitting the nail on every point!! Excellent insights!
Thanks!
This has to be the most relevant & encouraging comment of all
Is it dangerous to try carnivore (Lion Diet) with butter and heavy cream if you have a family history of primary sclerosing cholangitis? The video mentioning duademum and bile is giving me the willies. My Dad died waiting for a liver transplant in 1987. He had ulcerative colitis and PSC. I am trying this for mental health and weight loss.
I was Dx'd with IBS when I was in my 20's (now 66) and I have long given up on trying to find a doc (kept telling me it was in my head, and I kept asking why it was coming out my ass) that has a clue about a solution. Went keto in June of 21', have been carnivore since June 22' have lost ~70 lbs in this process, but my GERD (better) and IBS have never resolved. This just might explain why I have lived 40+ years with gut issues. I have also noticed that within 12-24 hours of a GERD event, I have watery diarrhea. The rectal area becomes sore and inflamed and the rectum bleeds a bit when I wipe which indicates to me a high acid content inflaming/burning the skin.
Glad I found this, good information, Thank You
@@OrthodoxInquirer I've heard several people with ulcerative colitis said "lion" helped them....Lion and carnivore are different....only beef water and salt on the Lion, just in case you didn't know. Honestly after what I've experienced with it, I'd say definitely give it ago and see how you feel in 3 months. I've been healing now for 2 yrs on lion then carnivore, about a year each. Just so you know I have no gallbladder. You just can't consume a ton of fat all at once. Start slow, like a tablespoon and see how you do. If after a week no issue add another one. Your liver will learn to make more bile to handle the fat your consuming. Just need to go slow so it can adjust it take time. I'd also recommend having your B1 checked or just take a professional grade B1. Just my experience, and Elliot knows what he talking about. Happy New year and good luck!!
I’ve been doing carnivore for years and the diarrhea has never stopped. I recently started psyllium husk 3tsp a day and it stopped the diarrhea - although the stool still feels a bit acidic. So happy. I know how to cure it- it just add plants but I don’t want to because the carnivore diet cures my binge eating disorder. Thanks for this video.
thx for ur comment,I'll try this and see what will happen😀
Thank you. This comment as well as the video give me a reason and direction. Have just been carnivore for a week now and have never had gut problems before, but am a carb addict. I will add the psyllium husk as well as the suggestions in the video.
Check out Dr. Chaffe on this topic!
Don’t find Dr Chaffee helpful personally. Found this comment on psyllium most helpful. I can’t go on like this…half the time I don’t make it to the bathroom. So humiliating. Can’t go anywhere without being very nervous.
I have been thinking of trying psyllium husk, now I will and thank you for the starting amount. I’ve been on the diet and the toilet for 2 months.
I am a physician and am teaching other physicians about your lectures. I tell many patients often about what I learn from you. Thank you!!!!
Awesome!
You have no idea how many videos I watch trying to find a solution to the this problem that I was suffering. You nailed it. Thank you
13:22 Recap
17:56 Causes
19:50 Solutions
TY. Appreciate this.
thank you
Thank you.
Thats how a mans brain work 🤝
Doing the Lord's work
Watching this two years later and thank God I watched it all the way through. I felt my diarrhea had something to do with my body not producing enough bile because the diarrhea only decreased some when I took digestive enzymes (double and triple the dose). But by evening, the diarrhea would be back. His video talks about the opposite: People producing too much bile and having bile malabsorption resulting in diarrhea. He said these people didn't respond to taking digestive enzymes but I did...for a little while. So I started to click off, but so glad I didn't. Near the end if the video, he talks about a few vitamin deficiencies that inhibit the body's ability synthesize bile. He mentioned A, C, and D. I took a multivitamin containing these vitamins yesterday. Yesterday afternoon and today, I have not had diarrhea. My appetite has returned. I don't feel sick to my stomach anymore and I'm not waking up in the night with painful griping, chills and sweats...and diarrhea. Very grateful for this info.
Any updates?
Thanks.
I don’t wake up with Diarrhea.
Diarrhea wakes me up😁😮💨
@@Chris_p_bacon86 The diarrhea got better but I wasn't losing weight on carnivore. Got off of it and really messed up. Gained more weight. Recently got back on keto (not carnivore) and plan on staying there because I like how I feel on it. No digestive problems and more energy. How about you? With a handle like "Chris_p_Bacon" it's probably a safe bet that you're carnivore. 😅
@@Xxxxxrrr6464 Hope you get better and carnivore works well for you. I'm back on keto.
@Nina-fh1bg that's what I'm probably going to as well- keto
Thank you 🙏 I started carnivore 6 weeks ago and the diarrhea just won't go away. If anything it got worse. After 5 weeks I was ready to give up when I came across your video. I started taking vitamin C and in 3 days the diarrhea was gone. My bowels feel better than ever! Now I can keep going with carnivore. You are a life saver!
Cool! I see this a lot :)
@dynamiquequeen did you take 2-4g vitamin C a day as recommended in the video? It seems like an awful lot and would make diarrhea worse!
4 Oz of liver per week and water fast. Eat one meal a day until full.
Liver has vitamin c, albeit a small amount.
@@EpochUnlocked just a liver or some fat as well? Liver is quite lean meat.
@@SarahPoulin I am doing 250mg before a meal and it works great. I have 100mg ones being delivered today I'm going to try.
The quality of the information you've provided is off the charts! Thank you so, so much.
Thank you for your help. My second round of chronic diarrhea in four years. The first episode was before I was on Keto/Carnivore diet. The Vitamin C used for a week resolved my issues. The second three month episode occurred recently while on the Carnivore diet. I luckily found your site again, used Vitamin C again for a week and it is resolving. The specialist here wouldn't even run a bile acid test, he refused. But he did want to prescribe a bile acid sequestrant. Seems the only thing our US health system can do is pull out a prescription pad or a scalpel. Thank you again.
UK doctors are totally in dark when it comes to vitamins, minerals, diet. anything natural. They tell elderly that it is OK to drink tea with their meals, to have statins, PPI-es, blood pressure tablets, carbs,etc,..
I was recently told that I was one of those people when I refused mammogram & asked for the copy of bloood tests that they did. You are expected to trust them blindly & they are pretty clueless. Two and half months waiting for ultrasound results. They are really working very hard on ruining NHS & selling it to Big Pharma.
What dose of Vitamin C did you use?
@@bomberman21321 Curious, how you're doing. Is Vit C still working? Thanks!
@@shirleyg.2133 mine stopped moment I ate one of those almond flour cookies. It's either the high dose of oxalates or the fiber
So true, and sad. Big pharma has been a self serving, grifting monster since it's inception.
Fantastic presentation! I don't currently have this particular problem, but I loved your deep-dive into the biochemistry -- thanks for not dumbing things down! I'll keep this stuff in mind in case I run across anyone with chronic diarrhea who may be helped by this information.
Probably the most informative and best health related video I have ever seen on YT.
Fantastic presentation!
This is the best video I have seen about the reason for chronic diarrhea. The Carnivore diet has been by far the most healing diet for me. When the diarrhea came in; however, this resulted in no absorption of nutrients. So if this can heal the gut problems, then all shall be healed. Thank you for this most valuable information.
What a wonderful explanation of the topic that people tend to rather not talk about much! Thank you so much I will try hard to spread this message to people who suffers from diarrhea when they become carnivore!
you’re LITERALLY a life saver.
You were going to die?
you’re not kidding.
I have really bad BAM I have yellow watery diarrhea if I'm not snacking on something with carbs such as pretzels or crackers all day. I am currently doing carnivore and it's so bad I am in so much pain and seem to run to the bathroom 5 or sometimes 10 times a day. I still have a gallbladder. I have type 2 diabetes so I need to do carnivore because the only negative is this diarrhea. I bought vitamin A and milk thistle and will keep people updated on my condition for those who are curious whether or not it works or helps.
Edit: update after less than 1 hour of taking 10,000 iu of vitamin A and liquid milk thistle drops my stomach cramps and diarrhea subsided. I am dead serious. I will keep updating.
Did the vitamin A continue to help? I have a similar issue as yours.
@Pegasene Star I only had to take it for a month and it stopped my diarrhea. Every now and again if I fast for more than 14 hours I will have an episode.
I have been scouring UA-cam for answers on stopping the diarrhea that started as soon as I went on the carnivore diet over 3 weeks ago. I have been truly frustrated as nothing I found stopped it. Then I found this video and was very hopeful that trying vitamin C just might work. It did hallelujah! I’m going to show this video to my doctor and educate her too. I’m so thankful for this help. 👍
Just taking vitamin c resolved your diarrhea? Did you have to take the other supplements he suggested as well?
Wow , the Berberine works! I have been intermittent fasting, one meal a day, for over a year and suddenly started having diarrhea soon after my meal. This went on for a week and then I found your video. The communication between the intestines and the liver seemed like a possibility, so I took Berberine and also L-Glutamine and the next day it stopped! I am continuing to take them and have not had it come back after a couple of weeks. I am very grateful that you and other doctors share information like this. Thank you so much!
one of the few really informative videos on this very important topic!
Pure information from this gentleman, thank you Elliot for posting.
This was so helpful. Thank you.
Update: I tried the recommended supplements without any improvement. What ended up curing me pretty much immediately was raw milk kefir I found at a local farm.
Haha ty
Supplements NEVER work. Only whole foods from God heals.
By the way fat in milk can produce vomiting, some lemon juice can help against it. Check raw milk diet website
I tried parmesan cheese, that stopped me up. Casein powder really made me constipated. So, I had to deal it back a bit. Now trying lemon water only, which I seem to crave. We'll see how it goes.
@@1999goodboy what a stupid stupid statement
@@1999goodboy why are you watching this channel if you think supplements are such a waste of your time? Rhetorical question. I have no interest in your answer.
@@1999goodboy there is such a thing as whole food supplements.
You saved me!! After a year fully carnivore adapted with bi issues, i started to have chronic diarrhea. Around 5 months ago I decided to increase the protein intake and stop adding additional fat like butter to my meals; within some time I became constipated and was having BM every 10 days, my hormones were messed up, now I know why: liver was not flushing waste. I decided to supplement magnesium and digestive enzymes with ox bile and HCl acid; then I went from constipated to chronic diarrhea that couldn't stop. I was having abdominal rumbling all night and then diarrhea every morning at wake up. I was also having a weird bad taste at wake up that now I know I could be bile reflux. After watching your video I purchased a supplement that contains some of the herbs you mentioned. It's called liver cleanse from Thorne Labs and started to see results immediately after taking the supplement. I have been talking 1 cap x 3 times a day. I have been able to sleep all night without the abdominal rumbling. I'm now waiting for my BM to go normal big thank you for posting this info
Cool. I have Crohn’s disease. Carnivore has helped me tremendously in so many ways but still have chronic diarrhea. I will try this supplement and see if it stops. I can’t go back to the way I used to eat so I hope this works. Thank you for posting this.
@@Imjgwentworth hey bud, update?
I've been looking for answers for weeks. Your story is exactly like mine.
Never formally diagnosed IBD or Chrons but I have that type of gut. Still in beginning stages of Carnivore and now with chronic diarrhea to the point that I was dehydrated earlier today (could not keep up with fluids). going to try the thorne labs liver cleanse, thank you so much! and Thank you to Eliot for his great information!
@EnnPeeCee BAM. Bowel Acid Malabsorbtion. Your body is either making way to much bill when faced with super high fat /cholesterol loads, or it's not recycling your bial before it reaches colon. Once in colon your body tries washing it out by flooding colon with water. Symptom is diarrhea soon after meals. Try eating white rice for a few meals with other low fat protein.
Great info! I have been looking for the cause of my problem all over and this could be it. Thank you!
Hi, wanted to share my experience. Was six weeks in Carnivore mode and was still liquid (run for loo, stormy results :-)), I tried the Milk Thistle (extract form in capsules @ 225mg per capsule). Took 2 before OMAD meal. No problems anymore! Thanks for this video.
How long did it take to start working? First day? Just want to have an idea for when I start. Thanks!
So, do you have to keep taking it or did it permanently fix you? Can you tell me which product and more information. I had considered milk thistle thinking it might module the liver or something.I tried SIBO herbs and they did nothing. In me I think it is autoimmune though. I got dry eyes and diarrhea and digestive problems at the same time, and I have small fiber polyneuropathy. I think the diarrhea from fat is due to lack of peristalsis. I'm also reading that milk thistle stimulates peristalsis. If the intestines are not moving then they don't grip properly and food flies through. But, with fiber it has something to grip onto with the bulk. But, on a pure carnivore diet and with fat that is going to fly through if the peristalsis is not working properly. If the fat flies through undigested it will make you weak due to lack of energy and when it gets to the large intestines it will cause diarhea. I almost did the camera pill once, maybe I should still do that soon.
Do you still have a gallbladder?
I’ve read milk thistle lowers testosterone.
@@marlenegold280for short term medicinal use, it wouldn’t matter.
Fantastic info! Have not heard anyone else talk about this. Thank you!
Adding these herbs to my diet. Day 6 of canrnivore and I have the worst diarrhea. I already had it before, but would occasionally have solid drops. The last 6 days has been dark brown acid poo. Just aweful 10x a day.
This doctor saved me when i had horrible foot pains that o thought wete irreversible neuropathy... turns out i was B1 defdicient and now my feet inly hurt when i sit for too long (S1 issues in my spine).
Thanks doctor! YoU are saving my health, and my sanity: and it's with many tears that I express my grattitude. I wish that I could repay you... May God bless you .
Update? I’m having the same issue and wondering if anything has helped you.
@@suttonerin I did psyllium husk today. 1 capsule. And so far only 1 bathroom trip.
I have this problem, and I found that when I drink my normal amount of water with my meals, I get diarrhea. When I allow myself only about 1/4 cup of water with my fatty meal, I don’t have the problem
This explains my issues on carnivore perfectly. A year and a half carnivore and I could never fix my digestive issues, felt like it was 98% water most of the time. I basically had no control over timing or being able to hold it. Eating fruits and veggies and moderate healthy carbs with plenty of fiber seems to fix this in about one day. Removing these, I return to the same issues. I don't feel as good otherwise eating the fruit, veggies, and carbs - but it makes my digestion completely normal. I am very interested to try some of the herbs to see if that can help at all. I am generally much happier eating a carnivore diet - digestion being the only thing I did not like.
Have you tried the herbs mentioned in this video? is it solving the D issue?
I did try them and unfortunately they didn't seem to make any difference for me personally.
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Same
Dumb and dumber…. If adding plants makes you feel better, what does that tell you??? This is sad…
Fascinating. I started carnivore while I was taking a liver cleanse protocol including ascorbic acid and milk thistle. I didn't get the so-called adaption phase diarrhea until a couple weeks after I finished the protocol. I never made the connection and just suffered needlessly, it appears.
I can't thank you enough for this video, you're my hero
Thanks so much for this video, Elliot.
I was Vegan for close to three years and have had a serious Crohns Colitis flareup for about seven months.
I've been on the Carnivore diet for most of this time and have had very fatty stool for about five months and have been concerned about gallbladder problems and/or an inflamed pancreas as in Stettorrah although I do not have most of the obvious disease symptoms associated with these organs.
I never considered that I might have an overactive gallbladder because I bought that when someone is a vegan for a long time, their gallbladder becomes underactive. plus I THINK I heard that excess fiber can block the bile and/or pancreatic ducts.
I've been on a very low fiber, low anti nutrient SCD diet for a few weeks and I have not noticed any obvious benefits yet.
Your work is greatly appreciated and that includes the other You Tube health channel you're on.
I will try Milk Thistle (if there is no potentiaion or contraondications with Prednisone) and 2 - 4 grams of ascorbic acid.
Any update on your situation?
@@badersalman7052 I've been on Remicade for about nine months. In addition to my IBD, I also had undiagnosed Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency which necessities my taking Creon, a porcine-based prescription digestive enzyme.
My last gastroenterologist tried to gas light me into staying on Entyvio which was really damaging my body and he also didn't diagnose my pancreas problem.
100% this was caused by the vegan diet and every single online vegan influencer is a criminal because people trust their cherry-picked, pseudoscientific data.
Carnivore didn't work for me because at the time, I was anemic and my blood markers were all over the place.
But ideally, I should have gone to a functional medicine doctor who would have put me on the exact supplements and diet that I needed for my health.
I am on a low fiber diet, but body works more efficiently with carbs than ketosis, as healing as it is, it is not meant to be a permanent thing and except for maybe the Masai and the Inuit, all indigenous peoples had a decent amount of carbs (fermented and/or pre-digested) in their diets.
If you have been following the current psychological operation, Covid is not a virus, but the real cases that exist. are likely caused by the pollution that fracking production and refinement causes.
Masks are ineffectual and dangerous as are hand sanitizers and the media and all complicit "health" officials are cowards, liars, murderers and traitors to humanity.
Best of luck to you and thanks for asking.
@@scottsnitzer9733yeah you are sick not because of the vegans or carnivore, but because you are an idiot!
Thanks a lot for your video! I’ve been on carnivore for just over 4 months and after entering ketosis, I have been experiencing what seems to be bile acid malabsorption. I tried ox bile, different digestive enzymes, and also all of the supplements you suggested with no improvement to normalize my stool. From your video you mentioned that when these patients reintroduce plant fiber into their diet, their stool normalizes.. So I specifically tried psyllium, and as suggested this plant fiber seems to normalize my stool.
Thanks for the special insight that you've shared here!
Thank you so much! This really makes a lot of sense to me. I have noticed that Artemisia (wormwood) helps with diarrhea & calms my gi tract. I didn’t realize why until your video. Great video thank you!! I have sibo & h pylori & can’t tolerate veg fiber very well but have diarrhea with a carnivore diet.
There is a milder herb in the Artemisia family, called Mugwort, (Artemisia vulgaris), and has a lot of other uses.
So 8 months into my carnivore journey and I discovered that low stomach acid was causing my diarrhea and low dose vitamin c or HCL completely stop it. I've more recently discovered that I have a severe histamine disorder which I believe was actually the root cause of everything! I've been experimenting with a low histamine diet. Just thought I would share since the comments here have really helped me with my journey.
I might try the same thing with HCL and vitamin C. I tried carnivore in the past for almost 6 weeks and just had diarrhea the whole time. I didn't feel bad but I tried re-introducing veg and fruits and other fibrous sources and diarrhea went away within the next day even though I had nothing but diarrhea for almost 6 weeks straight. I also have lots of hard-to-pinpoint allergic reactions like puffy eyes, sneezing, and occasionally hives on skin. Had allergy tests for it and I don't seem to test particularly high on anything (I do have mild pet and dust mite allergies, but my reactions always seemed more severe). Maybe I also have some sort of issue with histamines since I also have something which seems like acid reflux except it's like every now and then, once every few weeks, and occurs in ways that I can never quite pinpoint.
@Tiffany Thibodeau I had multiple stool tests that found no parasites. My histamine issues resolved shortly after fixing my stomach acid issues! I would say low stomach acid was causing the majority of my issues. I also believe lack of sunlight and circadian dysfunction caused me to not repair as well.
@@megan7985 How did you fix your stomach acid issue? Are you just taking HCL every meal?
@@FutonsJapan after about 5 months on HCL I no longer needed it! My digestion is great and my bowel movements are perfect!
@@megan7985 that's great. I think I will give the hcl a try again. I can have 10 of those tablets with no warming in the stomach.
Very interesting. This is the opposite of what I thought - I thought it was lack of bile acids meaning undigested fats were getting into the colon. I do definitely have something wrong with my ability to digest fats - a high fat meal gives me liquid diarrhoea, and this is generally prevented if I eat vegetables at the same time.
Probably works for fruits too
Omg this makes so much sense! That’s why the diarrhea stops when I have kale. Oh my gosh it’s so bad on carnivore ! I have to go back to keto at least with kale
Thank you for making this omg this is the only video that makes sense
I hope this works, I’ve went on keto or close to carnivore multiple times and I always have this issue. You mentioned several words that peaked my interest: I have Crohn’s and in my last two colonoscopies the report said my ileum was inflamed. I know I have a very hard time getting enough Vitamin D but thru a lot of labs, I have been able to settle on a daily dose that is about 2.5 times normal. My Vitamin D levels in my blood are normal at that level. My plan: (1)increase Vitamin C first (I will continue this thru out), (2) increase vitamin A (back off on this if not affective), (3) start taking the herbal remedies you mentioned… 1by1. If this resolves, then this cure may very well improve my Crohn’s overall. BTW I take Humira 1per 2 weeks. Fingers crossed! Thanks
This is superb, I wonder why your channel is not as popular as other proponents of ancestral / carnivore diet!
I struggled with diarrhea immediately after starting carnivore, despite using top quality meat and suet.
Small doses of Vit C taken with meal fixed that! I'm gonna incorporate liver as well for wit a.
Thanks for all the info!
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Here too I started carnivore and went almost 3 days without a bowel movement after having SEVERE diarrhea on Sunday.......sometimes I get with my cycle BUT that has been awhile.....anyhow I have milk thistle starting that ....Liver issues run in my family.....I am iron deficienct .......Taken Vitamin C. 1,000 MG. per capsule. Just bought the Liver cleanse by Throne Research !!! Chronic illness RUNS on both sides of my family......feel cursed honestly. I have been battling health issues since a child but since the womb I have been unwell. Just had some diarrhea today but so far NOT like Sunday.
This is really great - thank you. Might be the answer to my problems. Any advice on timings? Are these supplements best before a meal or just daily dosages as recommended by manufacturer?
Oh my goodness,.such great information!! Thanks so much!
Not a fan of ascorbic acid or the idea of taking to remedy/temporarily mitigate the problem, but I understand why you’d recommend it for such. The video is amazing - explains this problem with science and clear research. I now have a grip on why this is happening with me on the carnivore diet. I have already been eating fruits along with meat so that I have electrolytes and vitamin C, but I heard thar vitamin C was only really necessary for carbohydrate production, so I thought maybe the acidity from the fruits was causing my diarrhea. I now understand that it was actually the liver/gallbladder secretion thing. I have been taking berberine and milk thistle, seems to be helping a little? Not really sure yet. Will check back in. Thank you again for this awesome content. Please make more!
Elliot, are the nutraceuticals you suggested best taken WITH your meals, beforehand, afterwards, or does it not matter? Thanks!
Well done 👍, I am currently experiencing BAD, from BAM . I will try your suggestions.
I just found your channel!! Thank you for sharing all your knowledge!!👍😁🥩
I had awful IBD to the point of I couldn't even finish a meal sometimes without running to the bathroom before starting keto. Keto with leafy greens completely fixed my gut bacteria and it was incredible to actually "trust a fart." Which was something I hadn't been able to do for nearly a decade... If you know, you know! Since starting carnivore 5-6 months ago, the diarrhea has returned roughly every day or two on average. Albeit, not nearly as severe as before starting keto, but still enough to seek some answers and led me to finding your video.
The bile acid theory definitely seems to line up with my issues currently. I think for folks like me, who aren't affected by plant toxins, a small amount of fiber from veggies on a ketovore-type diet is really what'll lead to homeostasis of my gut biome. Only time will tell, but it was nice having solid stools every BM on keto. I truly think a meat heavy keto with a little vegetable fiber will do the trick! My fingers are crossed and I'll try to remember to report back after a few months of reintegrating leafy greens and potentially some broccoli and cauliflower to let you all know what comes of it.
Update?
@@carnivoroussarah Yep, very regular after switching back to meat-heavy keto with some greens and nuts. Also, I don't incorporate veggies or nuts into every meal. Oftentimes, if I do eat breakfast (which is only occasionally), there's no fiber whatsoever and a lot of times my work lunch is devoid of fiber, as well. Just having one meal out of my day or every other day with a little bit of fiber has normalized everything once again. I think, for me, even just the smallest amount of fiber helps my intestinal transit slow down to a healthy, normal pace.
@@gibsonrocker17 Thanks for the update. Glad you're doing better. Mine was from a cheat I had. Literally 7g carbs (all carbs i had that day) Mexican candy. Never ever ever again. Or maybe it was the goat cheese from aldis. There was no lactose in it though, maybe I am sensitive to the proteins. I'll try cutting it out. Someone suggested oxalate dumping. I did notice burning when peeing and some crystals in there. Probably that for me. Seems to have calmed down now.
Hope this particular balance is still working for you, op. I'm 5 days into carnivore only but already the runs are really getting on my nerves. I'll keep powering through for a bit in case it's something else but I do have access to fiber tablets. So I may resort to that in a worst case scenario...
"Trust a fart" hilariously accurate!
Brilliant video. Loved it!
I started doing ketovore, mostly meat with very limited vegetables. My stomach was fine. When I switched to all meet (carnivore) my gut went downhill quickly. I'm about 3 weeks in and the digestive issues keep getting worse along with the pain. All the carnivore videos and articles just keep saying to wait it out but my body is telling me that something is wrong. I have stomach pain after every meal and I feel like my body is trying to push something out but is having issues. Eventually I will go to the bathroom and feel some relief but not 100%. The symptoms were sporadic at first but now they are 24/7. Thank God for this video I'm going to incorporate some of those veggies back in and definitely try some of the herbal medicinals. I'll let you know the results.
How are you doing sir?
Couldn’t it be that the body is doing this on purpose? People are saying that they had this problem for months when starting carnivore but eventually it went away. I’m wondering if maybe before carnivore the liver is inflamed and the bile is stagnent. Carnivore diet could be increasing bile acid synthesis and conjugation (taurine and glycine) and enabling the body to begin excreting toxins in phase III detoxification. So FXR could be downregulated for a time as a way for the body to make more bile and excrete more toxins.
I like the way you're thinking about it. I believe the body does everything for a reason
Excellent presentation
This was phenomenal
you deserve an award !!!
Great info! My stools have been horrible since I started the carnivore diet 23 days ago. I always thought it was due to low stomach acid so I take HCL and Ox bile with my meals but this could explain why my butt is in fire after every bowel movement. I actually just requested a consultation with u for Tues morning.
Erika Cotto- Can you please update us here on how it went. Thank you so much!!!
@@mp321 Hi yes! I'm still dealing with digestive issues, I'm 62 days Carnivore. I rotate from solid to very loose stools still. Contributing my loose stools to histamine issues I've had for about 4 years now. Also overgrowth issues. In still taking the Ox bile and HCl with every meal.
Have any of the supplements helped you Erika?
@@amygreenwall7800 yes tremendously
Erika Cotto if you have diarrhoea why you take ox bile? That makes everything worst
Wow..I think I might finally have found the answer. I was wondering if you have any updates in terms of these solutions, feedback received? Should we avoid other supplements such as ACV? Thank you 🌞
5 days now since i started supplementing milk thistle and no more diarrhea
Thank you good sir 🙏
Which brand did you take?
This actually worked for me. I’m back to normal. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou.
What specifically did you do?
I've been on a carnivore diet for about 8 months. For about 2 1/2 months, starting 5 months ago, I started oxalate dumping every 2 days and sometimes non stop for a week and a half at a time. The main symptoms were diarrhea and a faster build up of oxalate crystals on my teeth. It was very unpleasant. I learned that a deficiency in fat soluble vitamin A, B1, B2 and magesium causes exogenous oxalate production in the livers of some people. Eating red meat liver stopped the excess oxalate production and the excess oxalate dumping. Maybe certain people with chronic diarrhea are also producing too many oxalates. At first, I was looking into bile production but, it wasn't my issue. I've been on a carnivore diet for about 8 months. For about 2 1/2 months, starting 5 months ago, I started oxalate dumping every 2 days and sometimes non stop for a week and a half at a time. The main symptoms were diarrhea and a faster build up of oxalate crystals on my teeth. It was very unpleasant. I learned that a deficiency in fat soluble vitamin A, B1, B2 and magesium causes exogenous oxalate production in the livers of some people. Eating red meat liver stopped the excess oxalate production and the excess oxalate dumping. Maybe certain people with chronic diarrhea are also producing too many oxalates. I've been on a carnivore diet for about 8 months. For about 2 1/2 months, starting 5 months ago, I started oxalate dumping every 2 days and sometimes non stop for a week and a half at a time. The main symptoms were diarrhea and a faster build up of oxalate crystals on my teeth. It was very unpleasant. I learned that a deficiency in fat soluble vitamin A, B1, B2 and magesium causes exogenous oxalate production in the livers of some people. Eating red meat liver stopped the excess oxalate production and the excess oxalate dumping. Maybe certain people with chronic diarrhea are also producing too many oxalates. At first, I was looking into bile production but, it wasn't my issue. Eating plants is not an option for me because of oxalate toxicity and my sensitivities and allergies to the organic plants I was consuming. I added the organic part since some people have told me my reactions were caused by not eating organic. Meat is less inflammatory for me than organic plants.
Great information and I obviously do not know the daily habits of your patients.
Excessive coffee/tea? If I eat plants daily and ingest excessive coffee, I do not get diarrhea. But if I do not eat plants, and ingest excessive coffee, I have diarrhea.
You nailed it. This bile acid malabsorption is exactly what's happening with me. Plants and nuts, which contain plenty of soluble fibers, are the only way I can avoid this problem. By the way, bile acid diarrhea has a distinct smell and color. Once you identify it, you can always tell this type of diarrhea from other more serious types caused by viruses, bacteria, or other pathogens.
How would you describe the smell? I try to pay attention to off-smelling stool but it's hard to have a frame of reference.
My symptoms look very much like bile acid diarrhea except the diarrhea is often black or dark. Its "supposed" to look yellow-greenish from what I read.
I see this video is 4 y old. 8/4/23 now. I have been carnivorous/ now ketovore because i have added apx 1/2 c of naturally fermented sauerkraut to my daily intake which seems to have stopped the on going diarrhea i was experiencing after a colonoscopy, which was 3weeks after starting Carnivorous eating style. My BM’s were normal until after the colonoscopy. Then lasted for 100 days. Diarrhea ended after 3 days on sauerkraut.
Sauerkraut is very high in vitamin c, I wonder if that’s what helped? Or if it was the probiotics in it?
Yup 2 weeks in you get a bit of diarrhea. It takes about another 2 weeks for your body reset and then everything goes back to normal. For a very very small portion of people the problem becomes chronic. Don't let it stop you from trying the diet. This diet or rather lifestyle has improved my life beyond measure.
This video is for the exceptions. Notice the word in the title of the video - "chronic" - meaning those who have diarrhea which is not addressed within 4 weeks, as I explicitly say in the video
@@EONutrition I know that you referred to "chronic" cases because I watched the clip. I also mentioned that it takes at least 4 weeks for your body to readjust to a dramatic lifestyle change. And that that is an optimistic average.
I had a look at your approach to solving problems beyond this specific clip. And I have to admit that I made some biased and inaccurate assumptions about you. Due to lack of financial motivation the medical community has not done much along the lines of research on this topic, but instead committed to discrediting the carnivore diet mainly because it's cheaper and it is in line with the official approach that has hardly changed since Mr Keys came up with the carb based diet half a century ago. I incorrectly assumed that you were part of this problem. I wanted to EMPHASIZE that this clip was referring to a reaction that a very, very small portion of people experience. I'm sorry for making a slide remark to you. I will correct this in my response.
Kind regards.
I have Crohn's and had my ileum removed, and this has been my biggest problem but I had no idea it was because the ileum was responsible for recycling bile. Thank you very very much for this info, I have some hope that I can manage it now.
Interested to hear an update from you. Same scenario myself.
I used to take milk thistle before I started carnivore and berberine when I was doing keto (still eating veg) I’m going to give this a try and see if it gets any better. I will come back with my results in a few weeks! Thanks for this video 🙏
And?
Hello, would you mind giving an update?
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Brilliant explanation....
Wow... right at the start you are talking about me...Thank you so much for this video! I started Carnivore eating in October of 2018 and now it is June of 2022... Whenever I go strict Carnivore I get the loose stools and it becomes problematic to go out or keep to the program. I do feel that it is the right way to eat though, and I need a solution as I don't want to keep going back to plant foods to remedy my diarrhea.
@T Hunt I may live at the Salmon Fishing Capital of the World, but I can't afford to buy Salmon myself...
@T Hunt Oh yes, thanks I always keep a variety of canned salmon on hand. I had some for lunch today... :) When I was a child my Mom would home-can Salmon in quart size jars... she did 52 jars every summer when my Dad caught all the salmon. We live in Salmon country... But now it is not the same the costs to go fishing are prohibitive. When I was a child it was all free food...
Just wondering, I’m 76 and have had excess bile for Years. Mainly carnivore so I will start with some veggies and ascorbic acid. If this helps I will be able to maybe travel again. Sometimes I go a month without any diarrhea but never know which is the heartbreak of this. Thank you.
Milk thistle fixed me. Thanks so much Elliot.
Awesome!
I am starting to add milk thistle as well, although i''ve been taking vit c for the past two days and it helped a lot!
What dosage have you taken?
Biochemistry is so amazing! :)
I wish I knew about this earlier. It explains a lot of my experiences. You didn't mention it but bile in the stool makes it slippery which is an obvious sign. At least now I know why going plant free is probably never going to happen for me.
It's temporary (for most?) Comments here indicating everything from days to months for different individuals. But if you feel good with plants, why give them up?
Wish I’d known about the slippery part, I was wondering what that was from! Ty!
This was very enlightening. I was diagnosed at the age of 24 with PSC. Then at the age of 39 with IBD Crohn (they weren't sure in the lab 100% as it was hard to diagnose). So they gave me and meds for Crohn Morbus and For Crohn Collitis aka Collitis Ulcerative. The latter works but I hate taking meds. So six weeks ago i started carnivore. First week went great and then from third week on huge pain in small intestines and diarrhea mixed with constipation. I didn't get it as it should be getting better. Yes I drink enough and have my electrolytes etc. So again took mesalazine meds which calmed things down as far as pain goes. But the mixed diarrhey still occurs once a week. I added hinch of veggies which helps a bit. Now hearing this video i will try your tips.
Maybe there are others with my disease profile that went on carnivore and felt like things are getting worse rather than better. Maybe this is the cause as it is a complicated combination of PSC and Crohn.
WoW! This is gold. I did keto for two years. This year I started carnivore. I don't have a gallbladder for many years now. I've noticed a lot of gas and bloating as well as chronic diarrhea. I was very surpirsed a couple weeks ago that after eating some liver and bone broth I had some very normal stools. Almost constipated! After watching this vid, I'm wondering if the vitamin A in the liver fixed me. I'm going to have to experiment with more liver to see if that is the case. Thank you for this information!
The time...with the time, the body chemistry gets used with the clear eating
Water fasting and eating one meal a day until full can reduce bile acid production. So the problem is more nuanced rather than the diet being the problem.
I never had a diarrhea problem, even with no gallbladder.
You got To keep in mind. You're not constipated. Our body will use animal based foods so thoroughly, very very little will get excreted.
@@EpochUnlocked Your eating nutrient rich food and your body is consuming almost everything. It's good.
I have a perfect stool after just a month of Carnivore. Tried to add in plants but I got gut distress and constipation.
I’ve been ketovore for 6 months, carnivore (Saladino style-fruit and animal base) for 2-3 weeks. I’ve recently had diarrhea for the last week. It seems it doesn’t matter what I eat. Do you think berberine would be useful?
I have Microscopic Colitis and also bile acid malabsorption. I’m currently experimenting with the carnivore diet and having an increase of loose stools. I already take Cholestyramine which helps but not enough. Would you recommend increasing the dosage or adding in berberine and milk thistle? Great video, by the way.
You might want to checkout *Dr. Robert Morse* here on you tube. He has several videos on the topic of BAM.
I took cholestyramine too but it only constipated me so I included magnesium. After a while I just gave up.
@@olgasa6943 Oh god, that fruit person
Interesting...mainly as a reminder of the beneficial effects of diversity in our diet. Been carnivore for 16 months , but still drink coffee
with heavy cream each morning. I've gone through several periods of diarrhea. Over the holidays introduced blueberries and noticed
my stools were noticeably less loose.I may begin introducing beets and beet greens back in my diet and milk thistle is easy to get in
various forms. The concept of toxicity of plant oxalates and lectins is relevant but I'm convinced the answer to inflammation control
lies in moderation and self awareness...Too much of anything can be harmful.
Does histamine play a role in the problem? I am as you described in the open of this vid. Massive gas and diarrhea after eating. Gas starts in less than ten minutes following eating. I see bile in the toilet. Only thing I found to slow it down is Beano and it only works a couple days and then quits. Been like this everyday for 5 weeks. I will try a couple things mentioned but hope you have new info and regarding histamine. Thanks
EO’s more recent videos discuss oxalate dumping as another reason for diarrhea at any point during the carnivore diet. Often, the oxalate dumping happens later (or even earlier before even starting any elimination diet, Sally has given that a different name), like with me, 9 months in, chronic diarrhea for 2 months. I’m mitigating by eating low ox foods like black tea, cocoa and cinnamon but I’m also trying herbs, probiotics, fibers, lemon juice. There could be multiple issues involved. The circadian rhythm piece is fascinating and not to be ignored. Our light diet is everything. Look into quantum biology.
So many commenters are describing classic oxalate dumping symptoms.
Update: diarrhea stopped, yay, plus starting B1 protocol, cutting back on B1-depleting tannins in tea and coffee and cocoa.
Cheers.
I always learn so much from your videos. Thank you for helping us all to be encouraged to live healthier lives. I was recently diagnosed with Microscopic Colitis. I was considering the carnivore diet since my food choices are limited. I also have high mold exposure (ochratoxin), high oxalate, idiopathic nephropathy, high blood pressure, and histamine intolerance. I seem to be having good results taking psyllium husk capsules to stop my diarrhea. I was wondering if trying carnivore would help me heal some of these challenges or give me more diarrhea? I just joined a support group for new carnivore beginners, and they all seem to think I would do well and heal all my problems. I'm not a fan of too much fat since I also have trouble digesting it. Enzymes help me some. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Two years later, it sounds like what you were experiencing is the same as what I have been going through! Had the colonoscopy also (didn't have this inflammation or diarrhea before carnivore, just an onset of constipation). Can't do fat as well, I have been eating a lot of grains mainly for years to "fill up." Buckwheat cereal, and even organic chips to fill up.
How are you doing?
@joen.8364 Hi, it's two years later, already --- 6.27.23. I am doing rather well, thank you. I did go carnivore, well mostly, not entirely. I supplemented with a tiny amount of white jasmine rice. I continued using physillum fiber till I discovered Heather's acacia fiber was better for me. My dear daughter learned how to make a special type of yogurt for me. Each time she made it - she used a different strain of probiotics. This was my good fat. I couldn't seem to get enough of it. After six months of this eating style, my colitis seems to be gone. I'm so relieved. I hope you have found something to help you.
Thanks very much. Why is this video not shared by the Carnivore guru's? Probably because they have no clue about BAM. Like many posters here I discovered your video way too late, but better late than never. I am on Cholestyramine and that helps on non Carnivore, so I will try Vit C to start with. Thanks to the posters as well.
Is this the same as malabsorption of fat? I have losen stools yellow colour. Should I try those herbs or digestive enzymes?
Thank you
EXCELLENT VIDEO ! You put light on so many of my symptoms ! Thank you so much !
Checkout Andreas Moritz's Liver/Gallbladder Flush video.🔑
Thank you for your amazing and very informative channel. I am on strict carnivore for 6 months now combined with OMAD. It helped with some of my gut issues (bloating and gassiness permanently disappeared) and my energy and mental clarity levels went up considerably, I also lost some weight. Currently I am experiencing a bad candida flare up with some gut cramping, general pain throughout my body and discharge. I wonder whether it could be caused by my new cardio yoga routine, which might have accelerated a detox and maybe oxalate dumping process. Or can it come from my partner who is still on a high carb diet? On my carnivore journey I had issues with unexpected diarrhea and very soft, sticky stool in general. Listening to your videos I figured that it could be related to bile acid reabsorption and oxalate dumping as well. Now I am taking milk thistle, pro and prebiotics and calcium daily for about a month, and I also eat two squares of 100% chocolate or drink a cup of black or white tea every other day, in case my issues are related to oxalate dumping. I haven't had diarrhea for a while, but my stool is still quite soft and sticky and I have symptoms of yeast infection as well. I eat a little raw cheese (Comté) every day to help with my stool, I eat raw butter as well, and occasionally some double cream with my hot drinks, but apart from that I only eat fatty meat. I still drink 1 or 2 espressos a day, because I love the taste, and I don't know how to socialize without. Can all of my symptoms be blamed on coffee or dairy? I thought cheese actually helps with diarrhea and loose stool. I was thinking of booking a session with a carnivore health coach. Many thanks for any advise or insight :).
I have SIBO and Hashimoto's Thyroid, can't tolerate veggies, on the carnivore diet for 3 months, diarrhea off and on, thinking its histamine and low stomach acid, still taking digestive enzymes and ox bile, I hope it will eventually fix itself. Any suggestions to help with digestion, feeling full, bloating, not feeling good? thank you for your video, helping me understand my digestion problems!
Elliot, do you recommend taking Pancreas and/or Gallbladder beef glandular to correct Stettorrah that's comorbid with Crohn's?
that's a bile deficiency no?
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 I do not know yet. I have a new GI doctor who ordered blood tests for this, so hopefully I will find out what's going on
Scott Snitzer did you ever find out what was going on? I have Crohn’s too
This is the second time your videos have helped me on this journey. I added back fiber to test and the next day did 4 g of Ascorbic acid and it has stopped my diarrhoea. It has bloated me though, so I think i might try milk thistle instead.
Cool!
Great info, thank you very much 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I remember listening to someone who said that he had diarrhea for months when started a carniovre diet, and it went away after 5-6 months or so. Quite a long time, but it looks like these things tend to resolve themselfves, regardless of the cause. The only problem is the timeframe, for some people it might be few days, a week, few weeks and for some unluckly ones a few months.
I’ve been on the carnivore diet for about 8 weeks and having digestive problems for about 5 of those weeks. Some ppl are saying it’s due to too much water prior to & after a meal, others say it’s because of low stomach acid. 🤷🏻♂️
I'm at 4 months and the diarrhea and chronic fatigue is still strong. Have had to quit my job
RandomStuff did it go away?
@@Klyki. all your grass fed is total bs
@@rng_stuff do after 3 years of carnivore it was resolved?
What are recommended dosages for ascorbic acid, milk thistle, etc?
I do experience this problem. Replacing pork fat with beef fat helps but not always. Also not drinking water 3h around meal helps. There is also a trigger, every time a sleep on the left hand side even 3 4 hours after meal I get terrible nausea that is followed by a terrible diarrhea containing bile within 2 hours. Thanks much for this video.
Sounds like it is related to liver dysfunction, phase 2 issues with detox, or bile acid malabsorption!
@@EONutrition even though I do not see the final resolution things slowly add up. Bile problem I always had, it was not as obvious as in the past months but I used to carry ox bile tablets all the time with me. About two years ago I was diagnosed with t1 diabetes, few months later I took a peg400 test and I have leaky gut. I suspect most of my family has similar problems since celiac, lupus, asthma, t1, t2 and cancer are some of the conditions we have. I follow a paleo ketogenic diet, a very restricted version without any plant matter, and all problems went away except the nausea and diarrhea. I'll send this video to my doctor and hopefully we can twist the diet and fix this problem as well. Many many thanks. Btw more proteine helps a bit.
@@translucidmedia how do you feel now?
Love your videos @EONutrition thank you for your fantastic explainations! For someone who is sensitive to oxalates and salicylates, which of the 4 would be safest to try (ascorbic acid, milk thistle, berberine or artemisinin) These are not easy to look up for high oxalate or high salicylates content unfortunately. Thanks in advance for your response :)
According to Sally Norton(Oxalate Queen), the liver can turn vitamin c(ascorbic acid) into oxalate. So maybe you might go the other routes.
@@andybelant4433 Absolutely, i learned this when i had palpitations after taking vitamin C... I've also had major eczema flares following natropath's protocols with milk thisle and other herbs before. Last thing i want to do is exacerbate inflammation. Perhaps if I reduce to leaner meats and give it more time, my body will adjust naturally without any help?
This video seems to explain
My situation, I have been trying to go
Carnivore but have suffered diarrhea,
But I also have Ankylosing spondylitis
And have tried anti tnf medicines and I think
I'm now on an anti il 8 medicine.
Thank you for the work you have put
Into this research.
Thank you for another excellent video!
Could any of these symptoms possibly be oxalate dumping?
Anoush Faghani yes, I've learned dumping could go on for a decade.
@Anoush Faghani some of us have been accumulating for decades and are extremely sick from it
You are GOLD! I have been carnivore for months and with wonderful results, but this is a chronic problem for me, what you described. I stalled recently on fat loss and started back on intermittent fasting daily and kicking up the fat. Back on track with fat loss but chronic loose bowels.
I thought it was weird-how can I have this while taking in no fiber. THIS explains from a doctor's standpoint, even better than Dr Ken Berry and that is not easy to do. I didn't want vegetables because of carbs but you are correct, the fiber absorbs them.
I will try vegetables (keto of course) and see what happens.
You have probably helped me cure this condition FREE! Going to my doctor would have required all kinds of tests and he might not have gotten it, since he is not that knowledgable about this way of eating. I can't thank you enough!! Bless you!
Your welcome.
For what its worth - vitamin C is the most effective solution I have found so far. If fibre doesn't work, try 3000mg vitamin C. It usually does the trick
@@EONutrition 3000? That seems quite a lot but thank you for the followup! I know you get a lot of comments and it's great when creators respond. Thank you again!
@@EONutrition It works! I have added avocado and broccoli back and now the bowel movements are not only less frequent, they look normal in shape. I'll try cabbage soon. You have solved my problem at NO COST! Thank you so much, Elliot!
@@EONutrition I've been taking about 2000mg of vit c a day since april when I first watched this vid. My diarrhea's no better but the headaches that have plagued me most of my life have almost vanished!! (I wasn't vit c deficient, I ate plenty of fruit and veg most of my life til developing ibs-d or whatever it is.) How long is it safe to supplement though? I don't want to kill myself of the quest of no headaches! (I'd also love the diarrhea to improve, will increasing to 3g do it if 2 hasn't?)
Super interesting! The thing I don’t get is when I take berberine it helps with my bile production and Slow transit time. Any thoughts on that?
I found your video because I have been on carnivore for 10 weeks and have had diarrhea since I started and it seems to be getting worse. I have been taking everything you suggested years before I started this diet. I take A, C, D, milk thistle, B12 and a few others. I guess my only other option is to try psyllium husk. I cannot keep thinking that the diarrhea will pass because it is getting worse. Everything I eat goes straight though me. I cut out eggs thinking it was them, it did not help. I tried eating cheese and nothing works.
How are you? did you manage to solve the problem?
I enjoyed your video. I have been doing carnivore for over a year and have recently been getting diarrhoea. I read up on milk thistle and it says it may cause diarrhoea? Can you help with advice please?
Can you tell me the dosing for the herbs you mentioned?
I started keto two months ago.
A month ago I got a rash across my lower back. Extremely itchy.
I looked on line and was told to take bile salts. I started taking them twice a day. It took 3 week's to calm down.
Itt still flares up now and then.
This is the third time I tried keto
The first two times I got a rash and pain bruising over my kidneys
When I would scratch it would leave dark red lines..
I'm going to switch to carnivore.
I'm trying to heal fibromyalgia and RA. I just found your channel and starting to listen to you...
So am I supposed to take bile salts?
I also suffer from severe acid reflux, which disappears when I stop eating wheat products. The reason I started keto.
How are you doing¿? Are you still on keto/carnivore¿?
I think I am going through this right now. I talked to my doctor about it and he wants me to try taking colestipol to see if it helps. Since going carnivore I’ve had some issues with diarrhea but it got even worse after a 72hr fast. Do you think fasting can make the BAD worse?
I honestly do think it does. I did a 7-day fast a couple of weeks ago, and I am still suffering from the ramifications.