Also im pretty sure this doesn't scale well with battery volume, so even when dispensed from a firetruck in copious quantitys it'll still struggle to put out some EV, seeing as this seems to work by not only dispersing heat but also creating a seal of sorts to keep out the oxygen, which will be hard to accomplish on the bottom of a car battery. Crashes will be a lot more fun in the coming decade.
How effective is F-500 when batteries are concealed inside the vehicle body, chassis or frame of the car? Will the fire reignite while loading onto a wrecker or a few days later in the junkyard?
I would just like to point out that dry chemical is not the proper item to use on that type of fire. If you're going to compare your product to others, at least use the proper extinguisher. Which that would be a dry "powder" class D fire extinguisher. I would also like to see more companies like yourselves taking these products to be UL tested and approved.
Correct with class a & class b fires, but I'm not seeing it with class d fires. I'm not trying to bash or discredit. I would like to see a new product that works on class d fires rather than just the dry powder which is limited on the range of use. Along with the lack of cooling capabilities.
@@McGenest let's take a second and think about that statement you just made. It is completely incorrect. Lithium batteries can burn upwards of 1110 degrees Fahrenheit. Monomonium phosphate melts at 351 degrees. An abc fire extinguisher will not work.
@@McGenest also abc fire extinguishers are rated for ABC type fires. Where lithium is a class d type fire. So class D dry powder would be preferable but it would need to be a copper based dry powder.
None of these are the proper methods for lithium ion fires. To stop the fire batteries need to be cooled and only water can work for this. In addition, this seems to be an extremely unsafe tests with little PPE for the testers
@@fireguy60 im only here since someone on facebook mentioned it in an argument, at face value it appears to work what's the snake oil portion of it? Does it not take the heat away from the battery? I ask this because im a volunteer firefighter and i have 25kwh of lfp batteries in my house so it would be good to have something that would work
Li-Ion battery manufacturers recommend cooling with water only... no agents or foam. F500 is basically just a surfactant, doesn't do anything special. It's all marketing.
@@fireguy60 right so it's basically no better than running a dry/wet foam over it to take the heat out, maybe? I wonder than why in their video is there a clear difference, diff battery? different heats?
These tests will verify that there have been no restarts. Visit this page (hct-world.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/CH_F5_AM_L_Chronology-of-Lithium-ion-Battery-Fire-Testing.pdf) to verify for yourself all the tests provided. they made
Garbage test Pretty clear that foam test battery pack has been allowed to reach a higher state of thermal runaway and a much lesser amount of extinguishinant is used.
dry chemicals extinguishing from 2meters and not to fire, f500 from 1 meter and directly to fire. really cool
I would also keep my distance if the flames kept rising..
Yeah, this comparison is a joke.
Most of these seem to be sponsored content ngl
Also im pretty sure this doesn't scale well with battery volume, so even when dispensed from a firetruck in copious quantitys it'll still struggle to put out some EV, seeing as this seems to work by not only dispersing heat but also creating a seal of sorts to keep out the oxygen, which will be hard to accomplish on the bottom of a car battery. Crashes will be a lot more fun in the coming decade.
It appears to be a standard pressurized water can.
Research it.
Nog a standard extinguisher style w/dry ingredients.
these are not available for sale.. I have searched the internet and NOTHING about purchasing one..
How many batteries were firing (and how much Wh did they have)?
What F 500 EA made of?
How much is the cost of f500 ea in nigeria
What about enviromental issue ?
Where is F500-EA available in USA?
The manufacturer, Hazard Control Technologies, is located in Fayetteville, Georgia and the phone is 770-719-5112
Contact Hazard Control Technologies, Inc. at info@hct-world.com or call us please Tel: (770) 719-5112. Thank you.
A küzépső tüzet kellett volna oltani az f500-al. A másik kető csak pislákolt ahhoz képest.
How effective is F-500 when batteries are concealed inside the vehicle body, chassis or frame of the car?
Will the fire reignite while loading onto a wrecker or a few days later in the junkyard?
Not effective and yes will very likely reignite.
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Not effective and yes will very likely reignite.
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Very very good question....
do you have ul approval for class d?
There is a different between dry chemical and dry powder fire extinguisher
I would just like to point out that dry chemical is not the proper item to use on that type of fire. If you're going to compare your product to others, at least use the proper extinguisher. Which that would be a dry "powder" class D fire extinguisher. I would also like to see more companies like yourselves taking these products to be UL tested and approved.
Thanks for watching our video and commenting. We are UL Tested and approved. Thanks
Correct with class a & class b fires, but I'm not seeing it with class d fires. I'm not trying to bash or discredit. I would like to see a new product that works on class d fires rather than just the dry powder which is limited on the range of use. Along with the lack of cooling capabilities.
@@McGenest let's take a second and think about that statement you just made. It is completely incorrect. Lithium batteries can burn upwards of 1110 degrees Fahrenheit. Monomonium phosphate melts at 351 degrees. An abc fire extinguisher will not work.
@@McGenest also abc fire extinguishers are rated for ABC type fires. Where lithium is a class d type fire. So class D dry powder would be preferable but it would need to be a copper based dry powder.
@@josephpritchard7611 Lithium metal is a class D fire, Lithium batteries dont have any lithium metal in it, only lithium salts. That does not apply.
Cool
must using powder D class,abc class powder cannot extinguihes the fire
All chemicals to the storm drain , fish like lithium
None of these are the proper methods for lithium ion fires. To stop the fire batteries need to be cooled and only water can work for this. In addition, this seems to be an extremely unsafe tests with little PPE for the testers
F500 won't test against water, it's the same thing.. lol. Snake oil.
@@fireguy60 im only here since someone on facebook mentioned it in an argument, at face value it appears to work what's the snake oil portion of it? Does it not take the heat away from the battery?
I ask this because im a volunteer firefighter and i have 25kwh of lfp batteries in my house so it would be good to have something that would work
Li-Ion battery manufacturers recommend cooling with water only... no agents or foam. F500 is basically just a surfactant, doesn't do anything special. It's all marketing.
@@fireguy60 right so it's basically no better than running a dry/wet foam over it to take the heat out, maybe?
I wonder than why in their video is there a clear difference, diff battery? different heats?
@@robanzzz5124 battery mfgs recommend water only... NO FOAM. Foam can actually act as an insulator, holding heat in, you need to cool the battery
Scam. Trust me I say it will reignite.
These tests will verify that there have been no restarts. Visit this page (hct-world.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/CH_F5_AM_L_Chronology-of-Lithium-ion-Battery-Fire-Testing.pdf) to verify for yourself all the tests provided. they made
Garbage test
Pretty clear that foam test battery pack has been allowed to reach a higher state of thermal runaway and a much lesser amount of extinguishinant is used.
All three failed lol 😆