You didn't promise us a sure-fire way to do this. You mentioned all the variables and what needs to be in place to produce the shot we want. You did an excellent job of it. Thanks.
My personal technique it to loosen my grip, relax shoulder rotation, reduce arm movement but maximise wrist break which I correct to neutral but I only start to neutralise about 20-25 degrees from impact with the ball. It massively increases club head speed without adding distance and the whipping motion increases friction between club and ball to maximise spin off the club face.
Thanks for that heads up. Deloft and swing a little smoother helps. Just want to control it better with the club that I know hits my number. Figure it could be an interesting video for Chris to make if he doesn't already have one stashed somewhere. Might be as simple as changing my ball. Gaming Pro V1x... Hard to move away because the flight characteristics of that ball are money but it is a spin monster. Anxious to try the Left Dash model of the Pro V1x when it comes out in October. Supposed to be the same high launch as Pro V1x but lower spinning. Srixon Z Star XV did well for me. Might have to break them out again for a few rounds. I sought after that spin that would zip the ball back 8-10 feet for the longest time but now that I've got it I can't seem to get rid of it. LOL it's great for front pin locations and sending it to the middle of the green and backing it up to the pin but not so great for those middle and back pins.
Ross Lillebo you really want to concentrate on a lower flight Also reducing swing speed a little if you still want to maintain height. Fuller swing lower slopes for hi soft landing. Lower flight faster speed. One hop then stop.
@@liddle13 Yep. Thx for the reply. Familiar with those options per previous comment on delofting and smoothing my swing out. Still just spinning more than i'd like with short irons through wedges. Peeling them back off the front of the green(greens are extremely soft and receptive). After playing yesterday I am pretty convinced that it's going to come down to a ball change for me. Gaming Srixon Z785s in the irons and Vokey SM7's in the wedges. Have the KBS $-Taper 120 shafts which is a combo that should already knock the spin down a bit. I think the New Pro V1x is just too much of a spinner now for how my game has progressed this year. Tested the ProV1. It knocked a little spin down and liked it alright but like the higher flight I get from the Pro V1x. Srixon Z Star XV seems like the best option so far to move in as my gamer. Flies high and doesn't spin near as much as the Titleist(about 700-1000 revs less for me). Haven't tried any of the Bridestone balls yet and may test them. The Taylormade TP5 series didn't wow me. The Pro V1x Left Dash coming out in October has me really intrigued and sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. I'll keep the regular Pro V1x in the bag for times where I get on a course that's faster and firmer than my home course. Cheers
Great vid mate, I would also like to point out the fact that you do involve knees and hips in the swing which will increase the club speed a lot. I often see and head people playing wedges "just using their arms and wrists" believing that that is the basic way to hit a wedge. And, unless you are creating at least some club speed ideally using 1. knees 2. hips players will never see their balls spin at all.
I’d have rather just hear about how to not what I don’t want to do. I’m pretty good at doing wrong stuff. Thank you for the tips, sincerely appreciated.
Great video, definitely something for us all to learn about. On the ball there is a great article in this month's Today's Golfer magazine about balls (Mygolfspy has also done comprehensive testing on more balls than the magazine but I have concerns about their methodology). For most amateur golfers the magazine article results show that there is virtually no significant difference in distance between the golf balls tested even with a driver (5 yards at worst at nearly 250 yards carry), and crucially no real difference between front & back dispersion between the balls. The 2 areas where there is a noticeable difference between golf balls are left/right dispersion (manufacturing tolerances?) and spin rates. The spin rates differences could be as much as 15% which makes sense as some balls are marketed as high spin and others distance - it would be highly amusing to see if the marketing matched the actual magazine spin results! Highest spinning balls with wedges that the magazine tested were the Pro V1x, Z-Star Xv and Bridgestone Tour B Xs (there seems to be a X theme there) lowest spinners were the Bridgestone Tour RX, Pearl Pure Pro X and Wilson Duo Pro. There did not seem to be any corellation between compression and spin or between number of layers in construction and spin.
Golf balls are really hard to choose, as you say they often claim to be the longest, the highest spin etc, but in reality the ball can only do so much. I’ve played around with the TP5 and the TP5X and in my experience I have always noticed more differences with golf balls the closer to the green I get. The TP5X for me just feels a little better and the numbers are great too
When I play indoors using a track-man I spin the heck out of the ball on the screen. But when I play for real the best I can hope for is a nice check -up. I wonder if thats due to the things you mentioned; club face quality, green softness and ball quality.
Hey Glenn, a lot of that is due to the quality of contact between club and ball, out on the course it’s almost impossible to keep debris from being between the two, grass, moisture etc so often it won’t spin as much. 👍
SO....it seems to me then that each lofted club, say from 8 iron to lob wedge will have a launch angle at which it produces the most spin and ideal yardage at which it is most effective...yes? It would make sense then to go to a launch monitor and figure out at what distance from flag you get the most benefit from each of those clubs. For instance; I may be 50 yards from the hole but at 40 degrees launch angle my 9 iron produces the best spin. If I want to make a low 'grabby' shot from that yardage then that is the club I would choose...likewise a 60 degree wedge from 20 yards(given that you have to hit it more gently for that distance) would be equally as 'grippy' right?
Hey chris, I have noticed I tend to knife/blade and coast my ball to the opposite side of the green or I'll open or I think I open the face and hit the ball off the toe and send it sideways. What should I be mindful of?
Hey Peter, a new wedge would certainly be the best option for spin. I believe Rick Shield published a video a few months back testing if sharpening the grooves actually helps, may be worth looking that video up 👍
I understand that new wedges would be ideal, but most people can’t afford to replace all there wedges every 6 months. The ball is the key, besides ball first contact
@@ChrisRyanGolf Aight, I found a ball and idk how to feel about it after playing 4 holes with it, it sounds a bit softer, but the feel is imo like an nxt tour(s) but I can't tell for sure
Golf galaxy or pga you can get a good vokey or mg4 for $80-120. I will say one thing you want good quality on is wedges since spin is so important for that club. Honestly even a driver you could just get a good shaft that fits you and almost any head will work fine. Wedges are one of the most equipment dependent type shots imo. Even putter you can putt with anything
I just saw a video of Phil Michelson who said that you CANNOT pitch or chip w/ the ball in the MIDDLE of your stance. The ball MUST be off your back foot, weight well forward, lots of shaft lean and open club face. This is just the opposite of what you (and a LOT of others) show and what you show definitely works. Why the difference in the technique/setup/execution of the same shot?
Phil's video is teaching a bump and run or a high but soft landing shot...phil's short game video has helped, from what I remember was not focusing on spinning the ball backward.
Initial thoughts are that I really like them, I just haven’t had enough course time to really be able to report back, but they do seem really good and the feel is 🔥👍
Owning premium balls and wedges is great if you're a wealthy person..... What about someone who isn't and only has average clubs? Is spin a less likely occurrence?
I mean it’s a detailed sub just, spin is influenced by Ball Speed Grass Loft Attack Strike Greens style Moisture Grass length Club style Plenty more but a minute would be less than 10 seconds on each of those, impressive if you can educate someone on a detailed sub just in around 6/7 seconds
You didn't promise us a sure-fire way to do this. You mentioned all the variables and what needs to be in place to produce the shot we want. You did an excellent job of it. Thanks.
Great explanation of what is required to create spin on the greens and now to try and put it into practice😁
Define Creating backspin
“combining a lot of things, that have to happen”
My personal technique it to loosen my grip, relax shoulder rotation, reduce arm movement but maximise wrist break which I correct to neutral but I only start to neutralise about 20-25 degrees from impact with the ball.
It massively increases club head speed without adding distance and the whipping motion increases friction between club and ball to maximise spin off the club face.
Great video Chris explained really well. Equipment is so important and keeping those grooves nice and clean 🧼 Keep up the quality work 👌
Thanks mate
Best breakdown ever!
Any videos on reducing spin on wedges? Would love to see how to get the ball to hop forward and stop rather than always spin back. Cheers~
He mentions something in that video. Might come in handy 3:30
Thanks for that heads up. Deloft and swing a little smoother helps. Just want to control it better with the club that I know hits my number. Figure it could be an interesting video for Chris to make if he doesn't already have one stashed somewhere. Might be as simple as changing my ball. Gaming Pro V1x... Hard to move away because the flight characteristics of that ball are money but it is a spin monster. Anxious to try the Left Dash model of the Pro V1x when it comes out in October. Supposed to be the same high launch as Pro V1x but lower spinning. Srixon Z Star XV did well for me. Might have to break them out again for a few rounds. I sought after that spin that would zip the ball back 8-10 feet for the longest time but now that I've got it I can't seem to get rid of it. LOL it's great for front pin locations and sending it to the middle of the green and backing it up to the pin but not so great for those middle and back pins.
Ross Lillebo you really want to concentrate on a lower flight
Also reducing swing speed a little if you still want to maintain height.
Fuller swing lower slopes for hi soft landing.
Lower flight faster speed. One hop then stop.
@@liddle13 Yep. Thx for the reply. Familiar with those options per previous comment on delofting and smoothing my swing out. Still just spinning more than i'd like with short irons through wedges. Peeling them back off the front of the green(greens are extremely soft and receptive). After playing yesterday I am pretty convinced that it's going to come down to a ball change for me. Gaming Srixon Z785s in the irons and Vokey SM7's in the wedges. Have the KBS $-Taper 120 shafts which is a combo that should already knock the spin down a bit. I think the New Pro V1x is just too much of a spinner now for how my game has progressed this year. Tested the ProV1. It knocked a little spin down and liked it alright but like the higher flight I get from the Pro V1x. Srixon Z Star XV seems like the best option so far to move in as my gamer. Flies high and doesn't spin near as much as the Titleist(about 700-1000 revs less for me). Haven't tried any of the Bridestone balls yet and may test them. The Taylormade TP5 series didn't wow me. The Pro V1x Left Dash coming out in October has me really intrigued and sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. I'll keep the regular Pro V1x in the bag for times where I get on a course that's faster and firmer than my home course. Cheers
On my bump and runs I usually use the toe down method and feel like I’m hitting a draw. It helps me with bump and runs because it reduces spin for me
Great vid mate, I would also like to point out the fact that you do involve knees and hips in the swing which will increase the club speed a lot. I often see and head people playing wedges "just using their arms and wrists" believing that that is the basic way to hit a wedge. And, unless you are creating at least some club speed ideally using 1. knees 2. hips players will never see their balls spin at all.
Excellent breakdown.
I like his teaching style. He is very detailed, patiently explaining everything. Great master teacher
I love your swing , man.
Dustin johnson-ish..
I would love to see the spin and how much is on it.
As always Chris technique and ball striking is the key but you definitely make great videos which aren’t long but are very informative, well done 👍
Thanks Peter
It appears I have a lot of catching up to do ... great instruction Chris, tnx.
I’d have rather just hear about how to not what I don’t want to do. I’m pretty good at doing wrong stuff. Thank you for the tips, sincerely appreciated.
Cheers Chris, good honest video, no BS. Keep up the good work.
So what about the bounce on the club. A 12* bounce, 10* or a 8* bounce? Does that make a difference?
Great video, definitely something for us all to learn about.
On the ball there is a great article in this month's Today's Golfer magazine about balls (Mygolfspy has also done comprehensive testing on more balls than the magazine but I have concerns about their methodology). For most amateur golfers the magazine article results show that there is virtually no significant difference in distance between the golf balls tested even with a driver (5 yards at worst at nearly 250 yards carry), and crucially no real difference between front & back dispersion between the balls.
The 2 areas where there is a noticeable difference between golf balls are left/right dispersion (manufacturing tolerances?) and spin rates. The spin rates differences could be as much as 15% which makes sense as some balls are marketed as high spin and others distance - it would be highly amusing to see if the marketing matched the actual magazine spin results! Highest spinning balls with wedges that the magazine tested were the Pro V1x, Z-Star Xv and Bridgestone Tour B Xs (there seems to be a X theme there) lowest spinners were the Bridgestone Tour RX, Pearl Pure Pro X and Wilson Duo Pro. There did not seem to be any corellation between compression and spin or between number of layers in construction and spin.
Golf balls are really hard to choose, as you say they often claim to be the longest, the highest spin etc, but in reality the ball can only do so much. I’ve played around with the TP5 and the TP5X and in my experience I have always noticed more differences with golf balls the closer to the green I get. The TP5X for me just feels a little better and the numbers are great too
Another gem, thanks Chris
Thanks Nick
This really good info thanks u have really improved my game Ryan am handicap 12 now just like 5months
Thanks Roger glad I could help 👍
You gotta take a visit to Africa we have a great golf course here called lake Victoria Serena golf uganda
Great video!
Perfectly explained (as always).
Thanks Mario
When I play indoors using a track-man I spin the heck out of the ball on the screen. But when I play for real the best I can hope for is a nice check -up. I wonder if thats due to the things you mentioned; club face quality, green softness and ball quality.
Hey Glenn, a lot of that is due to the quality of contact between club and ball, out on the course it’s almost impossible to keep debris from being between the two, grass, moisture etc so often it won’t spin as much. 👍
How do you lose friction if the ball stays on the face longer with high loft?
Another great well explained video Chris love your channel 👏👏
Thanks Dave appreciate that 👍
Good instruction.
Thanks Tim
Hi Chris, do you have a video on the difference between open face and closed face in the bunker?
Great explanation, thanks.
Fantastic content
Thanks Josh 👊
SO....it seems to me then that each lofted club, say from 8 iron to lob wedge will have a launch angle at which it produces the most spin and ideal yardage at which it is most effective...yes? It would make sense then to go to a launch monitor and figure out at what distance from flag you get the most benefit from each of those clubs. For instance; I may be 50 yards from the hole but at 40 degrees launch angle my 9 iron produces the best spin. If I want to make a low 'grabby' shot from that yardage then that is the club I would choose...likewise a 60 degree wedge from 20 yards(given that you have to hit it more gently for that distance) would be equally as 'grippy' right?
Camera on the green to see the spin would help!
I'm skeptical if it ever spun?
Hey chris, I have noticed I tend to knife/blade and coast my ball to the opposite side of the green or I'll open or I think I open the face and hit the ball off the toe and send it sideways. What should I be mindful of?
Graet video!!!
Good tip Chris thanks going to try it
Once your wedge is a few years old is it worth sharpening the grooves or is a new wedge the only answer?
Hey Peter, a new wedge would certainly be the best option for spin. I believe Rick Shield published a video a few months back testing if sharpening the grooves actually helps, may be worth looking that video up 👍
I understand that new wedges would be ideal, but most people can’t afford to replace all there wedges every 6 months. The ball is the key, besides ball first contact
whats your opinion on the taylormade project s golf ball? good or bad for lower hcp amateurs?
I haven’t actually tested it that extensively I’m afraid
@@ChrisRyanGolf Aight, I found a ball and idk how to feel about it after playing 4 holes with it, it sounds a bit softer, but the feel is imo like an nxt tour(s) but I can't tell for sure
Class this 👍
Thanks Steven glad you liked it
You lost me when you said I need good equipment. My entire set cost me less than a good driver 😅
You don’t need good equipment but it helps lol I’m able to put backspin on a powerbilt 60 degree 😂
Golf galaxy or pga you can get a good vokey or mg4 for $80-120. I will say one thing you want good quality on is wedges since spin is so important for that club. Honestly even a driver you could just get a good shaft that fits you and almost any head will work fine. Wedges are one of the most equipment dependent type shots imo. Even putter you can putt with anything
Sorry no backspin for you
BTW.....why don't you use over head video, so it's easier to visualize head path, especially through contact.
I just saw a video of Phil Michelson who said that you CANNOT pitch or chip w/ the ball in the MIDDLE of your stance. The ball MUST be off your back foot, weight well forward, lots of shaft lean and open club face. This is just the opposite of what you (and a LOT of others) show and what you show definitely works. Why the difference in the technique/setup/execution of the same shot?
Phil's video is teaching a bump and run or a high but soft landing shot...phil's short game video has helped, from what I remember was not focusing on spinning the ball backward.
@@flytii thanks for the clarification.
What about putting wedges on your backspin? Now THAT, is talent. Good day.
whats the most spinning spinloft, I guess 45
Yeah you wouldn’t be too far off with that, it will depend a little on some other factors but that’s a pretty good idea 👍
Don Lemon is good at putting a spin on things
can you hit backspin with a hybrid iron? If so, how?
I thought in a video of Phil mickleson he said the ball should never be in the middle of your stance when chipping???
Only when you put all your weight forward for a rolling shot
What do you think of the mg2s
Initial thoughts are that I really like them, I just haven’t had enough course time to really be able to report back, but they do seem really good and the feel is 🔥👍
I think most hacks completely overlook the importance of playing a urethane ball
So true
How many chips could a chipmunk chunk if a chipmunk could chunk chips?
just need a pro v 1 or a good spinning ball dont need no fancy crap from that distance
6 months and your wedges are old!?
Lol. Mine is pw is 20 and my sw is pushing 40🤣🤣🤣
"don't want to hit a low driving shot for spin" ?
Tell that to Lee Trevino one of the best wedge/spin players ever.
Let me tell you how to create spin:“there’s nothing you can really do to create spin”. Jk good video.
He went to Oxford college to learn golf. 🤪
Owning premium balls and wedges is great if you're a wealthy person..... What about someone who isn't and only has average clubs? Is spin a less likely occurrence?
Yeah don't show a better angle of the shot so we can see the backspin or anything
Why do a 10 minute video for a 1 minute lesson..
I mean it’s a detailed sub just, spin is influenced by
Ball
Speed
Grass
Loft
Attack
Strike
Greens style
Moisture
Grass length
Club style
Plenty more but a minute would be less than 10 seconds on each of those, impressive if you can educate someone on a detailed sub just in around 6/7 seconds
Video fail 3 straight times. Just get to the point and ask for the money...
talk too much.convince me with the skill instead of lips.
Did you transfer your weight to your back foot on the back swing?
Great video one thing that wasn’t mentioned was grain of the fairway/turf
This video is a must watch 🏆💰