@@mbmmllc Yup, still alive and kicking. Finally getting things in order after the divorce, move, child issues, etc. Its all good now!! Just out of curiosity with this video, was there much of a gold line from the boards you ran?
Once you talked about the plastic sheet I realized how the copper was being pulled under if it was ultra light weight. I see in the comments some mention of using soap, however I can only see increase in cost and time, not sure? I will say once you laid the plastic sheet on you were cooking with gasoline. INCREDIBLE. I have been recovering CPU Gold for years, haven't done anything with the majority of it, yet. I did send in to an internet scam company that claims online how much they will pay you for the material, but were disturbingly a rip off outfit. I will have to subscribe and watch as you do things. The video was excellent in many aspects. I knew some guys that did this with drywall, producing the granulated lime, then reselling it to farmers for fertilizers on potato fields. They got paid when someone dumped it, and when they sold it, the cost of processing and the bigger companies have since taken over, I guess. Seeing your setup was a real treat. Thanks
Hello guy , I know most of your videos by heart. But just noticed something. No soap ? I seen people add dishwasher soap ( no suds) to the water and it really helps separate copper and plastics and stop fine wire from Floating .
David yes jet dry works on some things . All copper wire is coated with a thin coat of oil when plastic is put on the soap helps it come about . Yes jet dry could work , I've just never tried it.
Why are your tables so quiet and smooth? Its what is needed when working with a machine all day. Really learnt a lot from your excellent videos, keep them coming.
Hey this is really awesome, i want to setup a copper recycling plant on a small scale and plan to buy scrap copper wire as raw material and not the already ground wire, could help me with such a machine or process
Hi Jason, thanks for another great video. It was just little bit disappointing that we haven't seen any results from all 4 buckets you shown. I hope another video can cover it ;)
Thanks for the comment. When the customer arrived they wanted to run all the material before their granulator at once and then everything after their granulator together as well. We did three different runs: 1st material was the board trim, 2nd was material through their single shaft shredder (longer wires, some unliberated) this was section 7:13 - 8:07 Did really well if it was all liberated (com wire wasn't liberated for example and brought some plastic into the #1 and #2). The last section of the video was the material through their granulator. That did the best over all. So the two buckets at the end with the copper wire were an example of all the granulator samples run together in the smaller bucket, and the larger bucket was all the single shaft shredder material run together. These were just part of the copper recovered as the customer took a large amount with them for sampling. I hope that all makes sense, its kinda long winded and complicated. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks again
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Hi Jason, I wonder would happen if instead of using the plastic sheeting to brake the water surface tension what about dish soap? This would also help to lubricate the particles as they go over the ribs on the table. I was also wondering of the shaking of the particles charges them and re attracts them to the other particles . I once built a machine that separates plastic (3 ata time) but it was a dry system. We used static and electromagnetic
To cool, I was curious, did you ever considered eddy current magnets ( rotating magnets ) to attract copper to separate it? Was just wondering, this might be another trick to try for separation.
Hi Jason, I am in Australia and wondering at the cost for this complete system (240v) that you have in this video. thank you for your time to respond to me, Allan
I think that they recirculate the rinse water, so soap would suds up, Vinegar might help that , but since there isn't actually that much water being used Jet dry would probably be best.
Try adding dish washing ,FINISH to cut surface tension, JET DRY also works well. The next machine is a waste oil fired smelter and a set of molds. What happened to the PC board GOLD ?
Nice system. For the awkward stuff why don't you dissolve the copper in hydrochloric acid to put the copper into a liquid solution then filter out the crap and then use iron to bring the copper solution back to a solid?
Another cool video, your machines are amazing! and that shaker table is friken awesomely beautiful to watch.. also do you sell those baseball caps :) also cool!
I like to see some air conditioning compressors run through the hammer mill. If too big then refrigerator compressors. It takes me half a hour to break down one ac compressor and it's a pain in the ass to say the least with a angle grinder and hand tools.
I'm out on Guam (a US territory). I run operations for a tech company and accumulate about two, 40ft containers a year of e-waste. Guam does not have a recycling program. I'd love to pick your brain to try to get something set up here. Either that, or figure out a recycling channel off the island to move all this.
Wow Jason that stuff turned out really really clean... also I have a request for you I cut open large Freon compressors out of commercial air condition units very labor-intensive and a lot of work to extract the huge copper coils.... I don't ever remember seeing you trying to grind up these big Freon compressors but I'm interested to see if you're bigger unit will pulverize those ...let me know thanks
I bet those PCB scraps make a mess of the hammer-blades! The drills used in PBC manufacture don't last hardly any time at all, worn down by glass-abrasion.
the guy who ground that copper needs to set a closer gap a 0.007 on his granulators with quarter inch greats to avoid the insulator sleeve still remaining on the copper.
We didn't weight the material before and after, but the wire was a combination of 50% recovery, 70% recovery, and 80% recovery (ie percent copper by weight).
You are splashing pay on the ground at ports one and two. There is no splash wall and the catch basin too far away and it splashed every time it dropped pay. You need to add a down spout at the ports to catch it all and stop splashing.
My comment remains that while your equipment make great sense for medium to large operations that the is a huge small market for those that want to test a recycling idea or simple are not big enough to be putting tens of tons of material through each day. 1 ton of material in 4 to 8 HR. May be plenty to turn a nice profit and while I realize that small is a lot more work for a smaller profit there is no one there for the little guy I mean you are it and still way to large for some things.
I think nothing is more satisfying than seeing a shaker table at its fullest potential.
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That system is phenomenal!
Thanks Moose! Glad to hear you are still around!! Hope all is well in the other corner of the country
@@mbmmllc Yup, still alive and kicking. Finally getting things in order after the divorce, move, child issues, etc. Its all good now!! Just out of curiosity with this video, was there much of a gold line from the boards you ran?
Nothin' like watchin' a well tuned shaker table do it's job. Great video!
Once you talked about the plastic sheet I realized how the copper was being pulled under if it was ultra light weight. I see in the comments some mention of using soap, however I can only see increase in cost and time, not sure? I will say once you laid the plastic sheet on you were cooking with gasoline. INCREDIBLE. I have been recovering CPU Gold for years, haven't done anything with the majority of it, yet. I did send in to an internet scam company that claims online how much they will pay you for the material, but were disturbingly a rip off outfit. I will have to subscribe and watch as you do things.
The video was excellent in many aspects. I knew some guys that did this with drywall, producing the granulated lime, then reselling it to farmers for fertilizers on potato fields. They got paid when someone dumped it, and when they sold it, the cost of processing and the bigger companies have since taken over, I guess. Seeing your setup was a real treat. Thanks
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I love your videos man, very informative.
That shaker table is freaking awesome
Cool always wondered wonder what happened to the fine wire
Hello guy , I know most of your videos by heart. But just noticed something. No soap ? I seen people add dishwasher soap ( no suds) to the water and it really helps separate copper and plastics and stop fine wire from Floating .
Great, thanks for the tip!
David yes jet dry works on some things . All copper wire is coated with a thin coat of oil when plastic is put on the soap helps it come about . Yes jet dry could work , I've just never tried it.
did you has a video of the granulator that you speak of in the video?
what happens to the water? do you recycle it?
Probably does what water does.
Would adding a little soap also work to break the surface tension and make the copper sink?
Yes, probably. This stuff was really oily though
Why are your tables so quiet and smooth? Its what is needed when working with a machine all day. Really learnt a lot from your excellent videos, keep them coming.
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Hey this is really awesome, i want to setup a copper recycling plant on a small scale and plan to buy scrap copper wire as raw material and not the already ground wire, could help me with such a machine or process
How does your shaker table separate the gold from the copper? Do they both come out #1? Awesome stuff regardless! :)
Pretty cool -Awesome process!
I’ve seen people use Jet Dri to eliminate surface tension. Works well for fine gold when panning. Might work on your table without plastic sheeting.
Hi Jason, thanks for another great video. It was just little bit disappointing that we haven't seen any results from all 4 buckets you shown. I hope another video can cover it ;)
Thanks for the comment. When the customer arrived they wanted to run all the material before their granulator at once and then everything after their granulator together as well. We did three different runs: 1st material was the board trim, 2nd was material through their single shaft shredder (longer wires, some unliberated) this was section 7:13 - 8:07 Did really well if it was all liberated (com wire wasn't liberated for example and brought some plastic into the #1 and #2). The last section of the video was the material through their granulator. That did the best over all. So the two buckets at the end with the copper wire were an example of all the granulator samples run together in the smaller bucket, and the larger bucket was all the single shaft shredder material run together. These were just part of the copper recovered as the customer took a large amount with them for sampling. I hope that all makes sense, its kinda long winded and complicated. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks again
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It would be nice too know what you started with as to the finish
wooow awsome to see, great idea about that plastic cover ;)
great video
Hi Jason, I wonder would happen if instead of using the plastic sheeting to brake the water surface tension what about dish soap? This would also help to lubricate the particles as they go over the ribs on the table. I was also wondering of the shaking of the particles charges them and re attracts them to the other particles . I once built a machine that separates plastic (3 ata time) but it was a dry system. We used static and electromagnetic
Good idea, thanks for the tip
To cool, I was curious, did you ever considered eddy current magnets ( rotating magnets ) to attract copper to separate it? Was just wondering, this might be another trick to try for separation.
Any AU recovered?
how much price the machine ?
How much did this cost to build I would really like to know I'm highly interested and having something built like this for me
Hi Jason, I am in Australia and wondering at the cost for this complete system (240v) that you have in this video. thank you for your time to respond to me, Allan
Hi, send us an email at info@MBMMLLC.com for more info, thanks
@@mbmmllc hi interested in the cost of your setup to separate copper from plastic thank you Allan
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you talk about granulator... you have a video to show this machine? Thank u
We don't make granulators but a search on your favorite search engine should pull up lots of results
to break surface tension use soap. jetdry is what most people like to use but im sure any soap will do fine.
I think that they recirculate the rinse water, so soap would suds up, Vinegar might help that , but since there isn't actually that much water being used Jet dry would probably be best.
Wouldn't surf board wax applied prior to use do the same thing..
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I would like to 2nd the question on the boards ?
Great! Thanks!
Try adding dish washing ,FINISH to cut surface tension, JET DRY also works well. The next machine is a waste oil fired smelter and a set of molds.
What happened to the PC board GOLD ?
Thank you for your comment and for watching our videos! Gold will go with the copper, can re-run the #1 for better recovery of PM's
Use a "Spreader Sticker " product on your Table to Eliminate Foaming. It breaks the Surface Tension of the Water.
Jason, all of these samples have been thru first grind. Question is, can your system do that same grind and remove that first step?
Needs to be granulated first. The hammer mill doesn't chop the wire
How much of the machine
I didnt realize you guys are located about 30 minutes from me!
Nice!
Recycling Rocks !!
Yeah!
What are the particle sizes you have when you put the crushed boards on the shaker table? Love the work you're doing!
Max particle size for our shaker tables is 2 mm.
Nice system. For the awkward stuff why don't you dissolve the copper in hydrochloric acid to put the copper into a liquid solution then filter out the crap and then use iron to bring the copper solution back to a solid?
Great, thanks for the tip!
Use dishwasher spot remover in your water instead of plastic sheet to break surface tension.
You know stuff that could be trailer ed behind a four wheeler for prospecting would be really nice for the small guy :-)
also if you run a higher water yield you should be able to create enough agitation to keep the copper from floating on surface
Plastic sheet keeps it down
Does the system reuse the water?
Yes, All the water is recycled over and over again
you can add surfactant to stop the surface tension
Great, thanks for the tip!
Another cool video, your machines are amazing! and that shaker table is friken awesomely beautiful to watch.. also do you sell those baseball caps :) also cool!
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I like to see some air conditioning compressors run through the hammer mill. If too big then refrigerator compressors. It takes me half a hour to break down one ac compressor and it's a pain in the ass to say the least with a angle grinder and hand tools.
Awesome thumbs up my friends
Great! Thanks!
I'm out on Guam (a US territory). I run operations for a tech company and accumulate about two, 40ft containers a year of e-waste. Guam does not have a recycling program. I'd love to pick your brain to try to get something set up here. Either that, or figure out a recycling channel off the island to move all this.
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Wow Jason that stuff turned out really really clean... also I have a request for you I cut open large Freon compressors out of commercial air condition units very labor-intensive and a lot of work to extract the huge copper coils.... I don't ever remember seeing you trying to grind up these big Freon compressors but I'm interested to see if you're bigger unit will pulverize those ...let me know thanks
if thier like pool motors just cut the copper across the edge of one side of the coil them remove it from the other side.
Great, thanks for the tip!
Jason as always super impressive...........now have to ask myself what is the start up cost
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That's amazing.
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I bet those PCB scraps make a mess of the hammer-blades! The drills used in PBC manufacture don't last hardly any time at all, worn down by glass-abrasion.
the guy who ground that copper needs to set a closer gap a 0.007 on his granulators with quarter inch greats to avoid the insulator sleeve still remaining on the copper.
Amazing
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HOW MUCH DID YOU GET OUT OF IT.
We didn't weight the material before and after, but the wire was a combination of 50% recovery, 70% recovery, and 80% recovery (ie percent copper by weight).
You are splashing pay on the ground at ports one and two. There is no splash wall and the catch basin too far away and it splashed every time it dropped pay. You need to add a down spout at the ports to catch it all and stop splashing.
this is pretty awesome.
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Never knew how you could get fine copper from a mix.. neat deal......
A little dawn liquid soap will break the surface tension and let the copper sink.
Thanks for the tip
Very good tank you
What if you could get gold like that the way you're getting all that copper that'd be nice
Use jet dri, quite alot of it, and recirculate.
Great, thanks for the tip!
My comment remains that while your equipment make great sense for medium to large operations that the is a huge small market for those that want to test a recycling idea or simple are not big enough to be putting tens of tons of material through each day. 1 ton of material in 4 to 8 HR. May be plenty to turn a nice profit and while I realize that small is a lot more work for a smaller profit there is no one there for the little guy I mean you are it and still way to large for some things.
I wish they would make a small system for a at home refiner. They would sell a bunch!!
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Really happy to finally catch a glimpse of what happens to the #2 insulated I've been regretting having to sell.
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Is it true you can shred a 250 pound person like that guy was doing at the end of the movie Fargo?
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The amount of metals that gets thrown away instead of recovered and recycled is absolutely PATHETIC.
longer videos like 8 hrs long haha
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