Suzuki DR650 Vs. Kawasaki KLR650. Comparative, conclusive, most honest & complete review on YouTube!
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2020
- Pegasus Motorcycle Tours & Consulting brings you a comprehensive, comparative review of a Suzuki DR650SE, pinning it agains the Kawasaki KLR650 in a showdown of the best budget adventure touring motorcycle.
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Bought my 2018 KLR last summer after riding dirt bikes much of my life. Thought it might be to tall and to big for the woods, but it was a pretty easy transition. Love being able to mix trails and pavement in the same ride. No more loading the bike up to take it to the woods. It inspired me to start a Channel and make some videos myself.
Glad to hear you found the video useful. I will be sure to check out your channel as well - I am always eager to learn more. I just purchased a GS650 and it's 5 inches lower so you really notice the difference. Also the gas tank is under the seat so the weight distribution is different. Please stay tuned for that vide. Cheers
Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Good comparison, I went the DR650 route as I did not want to worry about radiators after a crash.
Glad you found it useful. Your logic is sound - as I can attest to myself having a bent and leaking radiator problem on my KLR waiting for that repair in Europe. Safe travel and thanks for your participation. Nik
If you're going to spend more time off road than on road, DR650... If you're going to spend more time on road and do a little light off roading, KLR
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Don't ask me how I know a 11 hour walk descent off a mountain with a rib injury can happen.
If wearing a broken-in pair of Moose Racing ATV boots in white you'll appreciate them more
My DR650SE? I added bark-busting protection afterward onto my still bent handlebar and
paid for front wheel repairs.
Nice comparison. DR650 was my go to for long distance rides for over 17 years so I can't speak about the KLR. DR650 is narrow enough for safe lane splitting in California. I carried a tent, a one gallon spare tank stuck to the back of a Home Depot tool box bolted to the rack. Carried spares, clothing, all behind me, so nothing stuck out on the sides, so no drag. For mods, I got a Shorai battery, an HD Mikuni pumper carb, a GSXR exhaust, a fork brace and a screen, and I cranked up the rear spring. I still have it, it has never failed me. The small tank forced me to take welcome breaks as even with the optional gel seat, that's about all you could ride at a stretch. I would ride between California and BC in one day at times. The whole installation did act a bit like a sail with Santa Anna cross winds on I5. An amazing bike that's never let me down.
Thanks for the comment. What an awesome list of upgrades. I haven't heard about the gsxr exhaust. Gene is already in Mexico city now with this DR. I saw him off in Baja (if you're interested the footage from that trip is in the Honda nc700x review). So reliability is the single most important factor when it comes to ADV bikes. I just returned to Europe where my klr has been sitting for 3 years, bought a new battery, changed the oil and coolent and brake fluid, and the bike started no problem. I love that about the klr. I'm glad you had a great experience with it (the previous commentator disagrees). Cheers. Nik
My motorbike history involves starting in the 1980s in New Zealand on a Beneli 50cc, to a CT125, XL 250, XR500, a GSX-R 1100 and a few others... then I had an accident in the 90s and havent been on one since. Now, I'm in Canada and looking at getting back into the bike scene. Everytime I think I've made up my mind on a bike, a new video comes out and then I start swaying another way.... I think Im going for the DR.... Im older, I like the older style, it reminds me of what I saw as a kid and wished to have when I was older. No more UA-cam until I buy it.....
Thanks for the message, and welcome back to the riding community. You wont be disappointed with the DR - although it will be a different beast compared to what you have owned. I recently purchased a BMW GS650 and it has a few amenities stock that you might enjoy, like ABS that one can shut off, low seat height (30 vs 35 for the DR), the gas tank being under the seat so the weight is low, and heated grips for you up in Canada - please stay tuned for that review, and best of luck searching. Please let me know if I can be of assistance - much of our work is consulting and helping folks locate their perfect bike. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks for the advice, you have me thinking of the BMW now..
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
@kiwionarope did you get the DR?
@paulstevenconyngham7880 Yes SIr I did, and loving it!
Great video.
Very informative in many respects.
Both bikes are a force to be reckoned with and it doesn't really matter which one you take. You will encounter hurdles to overcome with either.
I rode my DR650 on a trip from Wales, uk to North Africa and it managed very well. Even riding some of the Sahara desert and flooded roads where I had to to be helped across the overflowing river crossings.
I see that you've ridden a lot of the same roads as me too.
I sat in that same spot in Arromanches looking down on the Mulberry bridges from WW2.
Were so lucky in this age to be able to have easy access to the world of adventure travel.
Thank you for the upload.
Stay safe out there.
Thanks so much for the support and for participating in the conversation. The Isles still remain on my to do list - one I am planning to do on my KLR with the wife (I actually got her nearly convinced that we must make a special trip just for the Moto TT race). I agree - we are very fortunate these intl trips are doable now a days - I was 23 when I started living on the bike, with 3 grand in my pocket. Luckier still for those who can make it a lifestyle. Let me know if you ever need help organizing a great route here stateside. Ride safe in the meantime and thanks again. Greetings form San Diego. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
You guys are lucky that Suzuki still sells the DRZ 400 and DR 650 new in the states... here in Germany the DR 650 was sold till 2000 and the DRZ 400 till 2007.. I tried finding a DRZ 400 SM but I’m not willing to pay 5000€ for a used one. Now I’ve been trying to find a DR 650 SE (1996-2000) which also is nearly impossible...
Wow - that surprises me considering how popular these bikes are and how well they sell for the companies. Here too they retain their value quite well, and sell immediately. In fact Gene was the first responder interested din the bike and it sold in a day after advertising. Perhaps the market is saturated with the GS650 (which I purchased yesterday in order to test and review, so please stay tuned) Thanks for watching and please consider subscribing to be alerted when the new review comes out. PS: Where are you writing from exactly? I lived in Munich and Konstanz.
Cheers - Nik
Pegasus Motorcycle Tours & Consulting hey sure I’ll leave a sub👍🏽 i live between Mainz and Mannheim (those are the 2 big cities close by). They are still very popular over here but due to emission standards which neither the dr 650 nor the drz 400 passed they were discontinued (sadly). A GS650 is nothing for me though :D.. I just turned 21 and I don’t consider myself old enough for a touring bmw hehe :)
@@pegasusmotorcycletours None of these bikes are sold in Europe anymore because of emissions. Carb'd bikes simply cannot pass their Euro standards.
@@TDM0802 Nice to have you here! I am the current owner of three BMW and I gotta say the maintenance requirement is a bit much for my taste. For new riders I would definitely recommend other, smaller, lighter, simpler bikes. Good luck with your search - I'll keep en ear out with my German contacts for those bikes and let you know if something is fund. Cheers - Nik
@@Channel-gz9hm Thanks so much for that tip - is this a Shengen zone policy, or Euro Zone, or something more restrictive? That seems a bit stringent - but good on EU for being ahead of the game on mitigating the climate emergency - writing from California whee the sky is red and the air smells like smoke from the whole 1000 miles of coast. Cheers - Nik
Very helpful vid. I am more convinced that DR650 is the best option for me. Mainly because it weighs a lot less, up-gradable tank (with a few mods, you can make a tank bag fit), easier to maintain, and when Im not adventuring. I can pretend its a dual sport around town.
Very tru - that's a good analysis. Have you considered the DRZ400? Lighter and more capable off road, yet still fairly equal to the 650? Please stay tuned for that review as well - I recently had the chance to get to know it. Best of luck and thanks for the comment.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Yes please do this, can't wait. My only grief with it is the engine struggling at highway speeds with some load in the back. Please include this analysis if you can and if there are any work arounds.
Cheers. Subscribed
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours AWESOME!
I prefer the Giant Loop soft luggage. Riding atop rear finder
(with my addition of a half inch nylon sheathed steel cable
with fixed loops at both ends), an American Padlock secures
the 30 liter carrier to the passenger foot peg mountings.
Great review! So spot on in regards to the safety aspect, I think is the first time I hear it in a bike review and people riding GSs worth 20k may be thinking WTF, a KLR being flashy? You were spot on bro, I did Venezuela to Argentina, crossing brazil and then back on a KLR (with my wife). On South America anything above 150 cc will get peoples attention, I made it safely though, maybe because my KLR was all black and not red :). No mechanical issues in the KLR during the whole trip. Changed chain, sprockets and tires in Argentina and nothing else.
Thank you for that - I agree, this is such an important factor that gets no mention. I lived in many parts of Brazil, in fact two of the most dangerous part in Maceio and in Rio, and I got to know the inside of the country as well far West, and Mexico is my second home (wife and her family) so I am well aware of the security issues throughout LatAm. I am glad at least with this video folks who are considering a ride down there now can have more factors to consider. Your odyssey sounds amazing - with your wife too - that would be a dream. My wife is pregnant so no more moto for her but luckily she understand what riding means to me so no restrictions on my end. I just picked up a. GS650 to see what it is all about so please consider subscribing and stay tuned for more, and thanks again for your participation in the conversation. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Subscribed, really can tell how passionate/knowledgeable you are through how much time you’ve spent on these bikes. Just got my MSF and license at 23 y/o so now its just a matter of pulling the trigger on one of these!
Excellent! Congrats and welcome to the family. Thanks for being here - Glad you found the review helpful. If you are into this 650 ADV category I suggest you take a look at my other reviews in this class. Also, please stay tuned for more reviews of bikes in the 650cc category including a KTM SXC, Honda XR, and one of my favorites - BMW G650XChallenge. The next one coming out next weekend is of the DRZ400S which is a competitor to these two. I hope my reviews help you make a good decision. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great review. Awesome quality. Thanks. Been on the fence with both bikes. Planning to do a little more hwy - going to go with the KLR !
Thank you for that _ glad it helped you decide. Let me know if I can be of assistance with future ADV trips. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
This is one of the best comparisons between the KLR and DR that I have ever seen. The Rocky Mountain ATV comparison is the only thing that comes close.
I have been comparing these two bikes for a "commuter" for a new job that is 40+ miles down a rough dirt road, and another 150 miles to the nearest city with a grocery store.
I've made my decision with the DR, simply for the bikes ability to handle rougher off road conditions, but I applaud the fair comparison between the bikes with from a veteran rider that has been in most conditions the average ride would encounter.
Thanks for the review, extremely helpful!
Thank you very much for watching and for taking the time to respond and complement. That is indeed one serious commute you got. My last review is of the newest klr so please take a look if you're interested in that bike. The next review will be of the Himalayan followed by the Honda XR650L. Please consider subscribing to get notified when they come out. Cheers. Nik
Thank you so much for sharing your video! Very interesting and informative video!
Thank you for the support - I am glad you found it valuable. Stay tuned for more, we are just getting started :) Cheers, Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great information and well put. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your message and support. Stay tuned for more such reviews. Cheers. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
mad respect for the honest review, born in soviet russia and spending my youth in the 90s there, i know how right you are considering appearence aspect. For myself decided to go with dr due to clearence and weight. Cheers.
Thanks for watching. Great to have you and to hear you found my review valuable. If you like the Dr please tune in to the next coming review of my XR650L. Cheers. Nikola
This is a great review on both! Thanks so many other bad review and people that should not be on UA-cam. Great job!.
Thanks so much for the complement, and I'm glad you found the review informative. I have a new one coming out next week and that will be the BMW F650GS vs the KLR so please consider subscribing so that you get notified. Thanks again for the support. Cheers, Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Loved your video and how honest and relaxed you are. Thank you.
I really appreciate that - it's kind of you to say, and I am glad you found it useful. Greetings from San Diego. - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
DR 1998! You know what you are talking about, for both bikes! YOU GOT A SUBSCRIBER
Greetings and welcome to the community - thank you for your support! Much appreciated. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Hey Nik, great review mate I've just subscribed. Best wishes for you and Gene on your travels, be safe.
Thank you thank you. Cheers! Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I have put 17000 miles on a 2011 klr 650. My brother owns it now. 20000 miles on my 2009 klx250s and maybe 1500 miles on my other brother's drz400s. The klr went everywhere I pointed it. It was a very comfortable bike. I contemplate getting a dr650 for the weight issue but I keep coming back to the comfort of the klr and that my brothers 16 and 17 years younger than me would watch in awe of where I could take that huge, heavy beast. Great video. I will be watching more. I live in Utah and love the White Rim Trail and Moab.
Greeting and thank you for your participation and message. I just picked up a DRZ400S which I am excited to take to the desert west of San Diego. I am also happy to hear you have such amazing riding in your backyard - I just started watching WestWorld and the scenery always gets to me :) I look forward to chatting with you again then - welcome to the channel and community. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
*But I tell you, Jerry. At that moment, I was a marine biologist!*
Hi there. Can't say that I follow....
Great review coming from someone who is obviously experienced. My choice is KLR and I cant wait to get my hands on the new 1 being released.
Grea4 choice. I own two presently amd the one in Europe never let me down even when it has been sitting for a long while. I am waiting on Kawasaki to send ke the new one as promissed to get to know so please.cosnoder s7bscribing to get notifoed when that review drops. Also I c9mpared the klr to the gs650 so do take a look if you are on the fence. 3 more 650 adv thumper reviews are in the making. Cheers. Nik
Great review. Have been settled on buying a 2018 KLR650 but your review of the DR interests me. Most of my riding will be on highway and mild off-road so will likely got for the KLR.
Thanks for the message and I am glad to hear the review helped - if your ratio of riding is heavily geared toward paved roads with occasional mild off-road, the KLR is the way to go, especially if you are not looking to invest in aftermarket upgrades after the purchase. Best of luck to you and thanks again. Nik
The KLR is better for highway use IMO. If I was going to spend more time on the road than off road, I'd get a KLR.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Well done. Very good and informative.
Thank you. I am glad you found it valuable. Cheers. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I had a KLR 650 like yours. I took it across the country several times. Superslabs and secondary roads. It's a good bike that is more road orientated than dirt. It never let me down. With the 6 gallon gas tank I would pass heavier cruisers that had to stop & gas up. It will do single lane dirt roads. It does it all but doesn't do any single thing well. I put ammo cans on the back and could pack my KLR like a mule. The long seat helped for long trips because I could sit next to the tank or I could move back and sit next to the rack. A expensive European bike road with me and he was locked into a single position which meant he rode less miles than me due to saddle soreness.
The KLR was a great bike for me.
Thanks for participating in the conversation - had - meaning you don't ride it any longer? They really are the jeep of bikes - it's such a shame Kawasaki stoped producing these. Greetings from San Diego.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I'm currently not riding a motorcycle. I've had 3 bikes in the past: an old 70s Honda 500, Vulcan 750 and the KLR 650. I'll get another bike soon but I have a goal I'd like to meet first and I'm close to meeting it. I've been reading articles on various bikes and I'm intrigued.
Recently, (this week) I took a trip from Central NY to VA and some of the vehicle drivers completely ignore safety and the lives of others. So, I think my next bike will be secondary roads mostly. Maybe a cruiser on the lighter side with a bit of performance.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Both solid choices, each one leans slightly to a different experience.
I agree - it's not an easy choice at all and both bikes deliver. Thank you for your participation. What do you ride?
‘14 KLR650. It is the better choice for long haul rides.
@@deadfishparty I find the wind to be one of the most fatiguing element of ADV touring, so in that case the KLR is more appropriate.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I hadn't considered the wind. To be honest, I haven't taken any long rides on my DR yet, which is probably good since I don't even have a windscreen. I live directly next to a mountain so most of my riding happens up there.
@@andrewp612 Wind fatigue is a huge factor that will make or break your expedition, so by all means, do consider good wind protection. This screen is from Baja Werks but there are many others who make awesome screens fro the Dr. Good luck.
I currently ride the DR650. I have no intentions of selling it, as I've pretty much got it where I want it, insofar as comfort and personal serviceability goes. I would, however, like to get a KLR650 before they're all sold out, for commuting and short road rides. It would allow me to turn up the dial on my DR more for the dirt. As it sits, my DR is a 70% dirt, 30% road bike. I'd like to crank it up to 90% dirt, as that's where I enjoy riding. I really enjoyed this video. Thanks.
Kentucky Justice: Keep your DR as is and add a dirt bike to the stable. I have a KTM 300 for serious dirt riding, and my klr for everything else.
Thanks for that. I'm glad you found the video valuable. I really do thing between the two that the Dr is a better bike for serious adventure riding. But have you considered the drz400 if you want a more dirt oriented bike? They keep their price high, people love them, and they sell in a week. Better suspension, much lighter, comparable power...? I'd be curious on your take. Thanks again for watching and participating. Much appreciated.
@@edfeten4724 very true. A proper dirt bike would be so much fun. The problem is that getting to the dirt inevitably costs many many more asphalt miles at 60mph. Even the drz400 is screaming during prolonged stints of highway. But highways is inevitable, even when we try to avoid it like the plague. In my 26k mile. Tour of north America I don't think 5 of those were on highway, but you hit Texas or Nebraska and it's 90 miles straight west for a few days even on the country road. The Dr650 is the best compromise On the market... Under 5 grand. In my humble opinion. Thanks so much for participating. Much appreciated. Nik
@@edfeten4724 That's a thought, but I want to be able to take any of my bikes on the street (legally) and in the dirt. I'm not what you might classify as a prepper, but sort of. My hope is to be prepared for anything and have fun while doing it. Thanks for your thoughts. I appreciate your post.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours You hit the nail on the head. I want to be able to ride my bike(s) on the trails, and on the interstate highway if necessary. (I do try to avoid the interstates though.) The DRZ is pretty much maxed out on an interstate, and it's light enough to get blown off the road by a big truck. That would be a constant fight on an interstate. A DR is difficult enough. I won't own a bike that's not road/dirt capable. Thanks for your post. I appreciate your thoughts.
Love this guy!!
And all the videos!
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Right back at ya! Glad to have you as part of this community.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
On point. Excellent review.
Thank you for that - I am glad you found it valuable. Stay tuned for more, we are just getting started. Cheers, Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
One of the best comparisons of these 2 bikes I’ve seen. You mentioned some things I had never heard from others. Thank you.
Thank you for the complement - all comes form experience. Simply experience. Please stay tuned for more - I just picked up. a GS650 and am eager to review it as well - I have been pleasantly surprised. Be well in the meantime and please consider subscribing in order to help this channel and community grow. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Excellent review. I have a DRZ400e and I am kiting out for travel. I agree with you about the reliability of these and they are simple to work on. My partner was traveling on KLR650 when me meet and got sick of watching me scoot over soft spots only to sink when he followed. I have had to make some serious modifications as I am only 5ft but at least now I can touch the ground.
I look forward to watching more
Hi Tori. Thanks for chiming in. I also recently purchased the DRZ and am eager to experience it. Please stay tuned for that review. About that (riders that benefit from a lower seat height/weight: I just uploaded a new comparative review today so please check through the Chanel - KLR vs GS. The GS is a good 5 inches shorter and feels lighter as well. I would highly recommend you consider that bike (the BMW made a bike comparable to the DRZ - it's called the Challenge - 650 engine but light, and has ABS and EFI. Best of luck and thanks for the support. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; I am releasing a review of the DRZ400, premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - let me know what you think since yo are familiar with them. Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great video and production.
Thank you for watching and for taking the time to participate in the conversation and leave your feedback. I am glad you found the time well spent. I'm training another client who is about to go and do the same thing, spend two years traveling abroad surfing the coast of South america. Please stay tuned for that journey. I will also set up a video meet where Gene who has since returned from his trip can talk about his experiences in case you are interested. Please be sure to subscribe so that you are informed. Thanks again for the support.
An Airhawk seat cushion really works for arse burn on those seats.
Excellent comparo of these two very functional bikes. Subscribed.
Greetings Robert and welcome to the community. Thank you so much for the support. I am familiar with the Airhawk but found them to be too high for my test. Thanks for reminding me about that product - on a lower bike (or for a taller rider) it would be an excellent potential solutions. Thank you again for participating and please stay tuned for more - we are just getting started. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
excellent comprehensive presentation.
Thank you very much, glad you found it helpful. Please stay tuned for upcoming reviews of the DRZ and the BMW 650GS. Cheers- Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Very good content and comparison .. well done..
Thank you and thanks for being here. I recently added three more reviews that might be of interest to you - one is a more in depth review of the KLR, the other two compare the KLR and DR to BMW thumpers so please take a look at that if you found this video valuable. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Hi. I just came across your channel & subscribed.
I have a KLR650 which I bought about 18 months ago and which I'm enjoying (now that lockdown has eased).
The bike has an uncertain history, so I'm working through it bit by bit with the intention of doing some touring eventually.
Ride Safe.
Regards from S Africa
Clive
That sounds like a great way to spend the lockdown - getting to know the bike inside and out and then finally be confident to hit the road. Good on you - welcome to the channel and thanks for your participation. Cheers - Nik
PS - I just release a very detailed KLR650 review - la few days ago - please check it out, it might prove insightful.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Thanks for that have had a Kawasaki klr but now own a dr650 best bike i have owned for it's size
Cheers
Great to hear you found the video valuable - thanks for the support and for participating in the conversation! I look forward to growing this channel and community. Together. Nik
Ya Jim - You go man - totally agree.... Dane here bro !!!!!
Yup! DR650 all the way!
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Thanks for the information. Good Video. DR650 owner from New Zealand. That KLR looks pretty top heavy I must add. Spent a few years riding a KX500 nice to be on something a little slower , plenty of tracks down our way.
Thank you for watching and for participating in the conversation. In comparison to KLR definitely is the most top heavy of all in this particular class, and if you run through the playlist you'll notice that I've reviewed nearly every 650 adventure touring thumper on the used market. I'd suggest you also consider the Honda XR650L because it compares more directly to the dr. Thanks again and I hope to hear from you in future reviews.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks. The XR650 is not available where I live though. The DR it is then.
this video was perfect. I ride in the same areas in southern California. I'm looking to expand my riding experience with some adventure. I love both of these bikes and am going to buy one this year. I guess it just depends on which I find when I have the money.
Great to hear it. Consider joining the SoCal riders FB group - or if you are looking fro provite coaching, let me know - this is a service I provide as well getting riders ready for their intl. adventures. Please do check out my other reviews of bike sin this class -and two more are in the making so hopefully before getting your bike you will have a great overview of all the options in the entire class - please consider subscribing to be informed when these reviews come out - I just release a video two days ago showing what reviews are coming up in 2021. See you in the next one and good luck finding your bike (PS - another service we offer is helping you find, evaluate, and purchase your next bike - more info is at www.Pegasusmotorcycletours.com. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours checking it out now!
I have only one question. Why you have so less sub?? This is quality content.
Thank you for the complement. This is a new channel and its slowly growing. I try to put out only quality content with honesty and independece. Please spread the word and thans for being here. Nik
Proud 2015 dr650 owner here!(keeper). This bike IS the real Adv bike in my book just like a real adventure! Prior bike 02 red/black beauty r6.😔
Welcome to the channel - glad to have you.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Helo from México! My friend I love your honest opinión and advice
Many thanks and gusto tener te aqui! Saludos.
Great comparison... gonna need to see more of that doggo tho 😍
Thanks for watching and glad to have you here. If you liked this review and are co sidering these bikes than please take a look at my KLR vs GS650 review. Asside from the GS being an excellent bile, my pup appears in thst one more so. More 650 thumper adv bike reviews are in the making so please consider subscribing to get informed. Cheers. Nik
Great review with a lot of points based on common sense!
Thank William, glad you like it. There is a new review coming out today at noon so be sure to check that out and let me know what you think. Cheers. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
When I was young (1992) I had a DR 650 SP44 (Kickstarter) with which I drove more than 60,000 km through Europe. Then, 17 years ago, I sold it for little money.
Half a year ago my son (16) got a KLR Duke 125. His old man could not stand still. Last week I bought the exact same model with 55.000 km, that I used to have. It has a lot to do with memories :-), but the DR is also a great machine ...
I got say both of those bikes are not familiar to me. I have not owned anything less than 400cc. But I am glad you were able to find one in working order - it gets harder every year. Thanks for watching - glad you found the video helpful. Please stay tuned for a new review of the Suzuki DRZ400s, the BMW Sertao, and a rare BMW G650XChallenge, among other videos related to ADV touring I have been filming and editing lately. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I live in Guatemala and had many bikes, I have ridden all over Latin America. I just got my hands on a DR650. You are correct, I liked it because it is not flashy like other dual purpose bikes. you can ride it in more places and not worry about getting anything stolen. If he is riding bellow the boarder hard panders are better to lock down things. here we use liners to take everything out. Tell him to take a chain in case the bike is left on the street to lock both tires down. You are also correct, we are the same height and what I immediately noticed is that those handlebars a freeking low, especially if you have to stand on the bike for a while. I have done touring here on dual purposes and Harleys this bike will definitely be smaller than what I have ridden, but definitely more versatile.
Thanks so much for your comments and suggestions - I will be sure to pass that information on to him. I am glad you found the review accurate and helpful. There is a new video about the KLR650 coming out in an hour - please let me know what you think - I think it is our best review yet. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I prefer the DR, even on slab. It's smooth even at the top end. I bought 3 used tanks for my DRs for less than 50% of new cost...2 IMS 5gal and 1 Safari 8gal. Wind doesn't bother me on the DR, but I'm only 5'8". If you need a screen, ScreensForBikes makes a nice looking one that works, but many people just cut and bend wastebaskets or lexan for cheap.
The DR can be shaved to around 320lb curb, built to around 55WHP, and equipped with fully-adjustable suspension for relative peanuts. DR valve adjustments in BFE don't require shims.
The only advantage I see in the KLR is spaciousness for a big rider or for carrying a passenger.
The DR is basically a smooth and chunky, early-90s trailbike...that can slab a passenger and luggage all day at 80MPH. The KLR is an ADV moto...that's missing a much-needed cylinder.
Interesting take on both bikes - much appreciated. Thank you for that suggestions as well. I will look into that. The other viewers will also appreciate it. I learn a lot from you all, so many thanks. PS: I just uploaded a new comparative review today so please check through the Chanel - KLR vs GS. Thanks for contributing to the conversation. Cheers - Nik.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours The aftermarket and homefab potential of both affordable and versatile bikes is fantastic. I hope that the bikes that follow them are as good in the same respects.
The aftermarket and homefab culture have helped to make the DR and KLR the affordable and versatile icons of the dualsport/adv moto community.
@@RKmndo Very true - I don't quite know what to expect regarding "what comes next" after the KLR - but if the GS line is a tell tale than the new 310CC might indicate a smaller, more efficient ADV lineup. I am not sure. Kawasaki doesn't have an ADV bike past the KLR, and I don't think they want it competing with the Versys.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I totally agree, and I have owned both. The DR is smoother at speed, more stable, and runs up to 100 mph without feeling like you are hurting it. On fast dirt roads the KLR is twitchy above 70 mph and the DR is totally stable at 90 mph. No matter what you do, the KLR is still a fat pig. The DR has better ground clearance, more travel, lower center of gravity, and way lighter. The DR does not have a vulnerable radiator and a bunch of plastic to break, and the valve adjustments are easy. Just put a good seat and bigger tank on the DR and the contest is not even close.
It really comes down to preference they're a both fantastic bikes and will tackle any terrain. I own a klr650 gen 1 and it has never let me down, and having a long range fuel tank with a reserve helps but you can easily buy aftermarket tanks for the DR so it's not a biggy I've seen Klrs with over 100,000 miles and still going strong.
Very true - well put. I have been looking for the 1st Gen in that light blue color - just for kicks. Please take a look at my KLR650 review - I'd be curious to hear your thoughts as a 1st Gen owner. Thanks for participating. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I have snagged my foot under my Happy Trails panniers, that's a little scary and I can see how it could lead to injury. In the future to replace my hard saddlebags I would like to buy the Mosko Moto luggage system, they are amazingly high quality and very well thought out. And the fact that Mosko Moto is NOT made in china is a huge plus.
Thanks for the comment - I have heard of them but admittedly have no experience with that system, but I will look into fixing that. Thanks for participating in the conversation. Best - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great video. My 2p. Never ride off road with gs rider as they always load them to the gills and are a liability. Second I made a flat aluminium plate holder for my custom made large but narrow soft bags and it truly is the best compromise. Loads of crash proof luggage and bike still narrow. As for shade I always ride with an umbrella stashed on my bike. It’s not just good for fixing punctures in the rain!
Hey, those are all excellent tips - the umbrella certainly is useful - I've been in so many downpours on my adventures - probably some of the most memorable days were due to the rain. So does you aluminum plate just rest on the plastics or? I'd be curious to see - pegasusmotorcycletour@gmail.com - Thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. Stay tune and consider subscribing for the upcoming reviews of three more bikes from this 650 class. I made an end of year video a few weeks ago listing some of the coming reviews for this year. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great review, been going through UA-cam and this has to be the most honest review I've seen.
Could you advise on what to look out for when buying 2nd hand? Also what would be high mileage? How is this bike commuting in traffic and also highways speeds? I'm really leaning to this due to being affordable, and I plan on taking it off road on occasion. I was looking at a v strom 650, but obviously not much ground clearance. I would still consider that for the right price though. Cheers
Thanks for watching and for the question. There are so many things to watch out for when buying used and I've actually been working on the video that helps folks like you when evaluating a used motorcycle. There's too much to list here so please stay tuned for that very complete list. As for What mileage is high on a single-cylinder 650, for me I don't go over the high teens. These bikes should be able to go over sixty or seventy Thousand Miles without needing a major top-end overhaul. But meeting the owner will tell you a lot about how it was used and taken care of. For a second generation k l r in the San Diego Market one can be picked up for under four grand. Anything around four grand is a good deal.
The kalr is a bit more Road oriented due to the fairings. If you are looking for something manageable for mostly Road and sometimes dirt be sure to run through my playlist of 650 Adventure touring motorcycles. I also reviewed the V-Strom. But a bike that you might consider is one of the latest reviews of the Honda nc700x. These bikes all seem to fit your needs and can be had for a lower budget with plenty of Adventure left in them. More reviews are in the making so please stay tuned and feel free to shoot me questions in the meantime. Can't go wrong with a k l r if it fits you physically since it's a big and fairly heavy bike.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours thanks for the reply. Will definitely look out for the next video.
I'm looking at a v-strom also, will go have a look at your review of it.
The Ortega Highway! I know it well, because we used to patrol the South Main Divide Truck Trail and it crosses the Ortega highway near its top. We had many adventures chasing illegal alien smugglers up there. (US Border Patrol)
Yup. We are blessed with awesome riding all around. Thanks for watching.
Good video Sir!
Thanks for participating in the conversation and I am glad you found it helpful. PS, a new video is being released in an hour about the KLR specifically - I think you ill find it helpful. - I think it's our best one yet. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great review! What kind of decal (black design) is that on the DR650 ascerbis tank?
Thank you. Teckspec - great product. Stay tuned for a review of the BMW G650GS - a direct competitor.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
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I really liked the warning of which bike to ride in Brazil! Yes, KLR would draw too much attention. Here, DR was commercialized until 98-99. Fortunately, DR is not "targeted" here. The trail bike that draws the most attention is the Yamaha XT600 and XT660.
Thank you for confirming - safety is paramount. Greetings from San Diego - I hear you all have it rough down in Brasil - Saudade do meu Rio! Obrigado!
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Good review you sold me on the Suzuki Nearly bought one last week. To go to work in cape York. Couldn’t get my Harley up there
I am glad to hear it. Thanks for the message. Be sure to test ride it on the highway - going from a Harley to the DR650 is a huge transition. The KLR is more appropriate for the highway in that regard. Best of luck and holler if I can be of assistance. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours you'd be lucky to find a klr650 in cape york. suzuki are common because they have the reliability and the ability to handle it. i have a 2019 cape york edition drz400E
michael close that’s real adventure riding up there 👍👍
XR650L better then both.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Those Tusk panniers look like exact copys of Overland Solutions ones which are amazing panniers and have been around for 20 years. I've done 420,000 miles with my ones via 68 countries
Wow, that's impressive. Welcome to my channel and to this really great and supportive community - it's an honor to have you. Were most of those miles on this BMW in the photo? Thanks for the message and greetings from San Diego. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Nice video, very informative and beautiful scenery. Any comments on the NSU bolts on an older DR? Son just got a 2001 and he thinks it should be addressed. Comments appreciated. Thank you.
Thank you very much - I appreciate the complement and the question. I do understand that this is a known issue, much like the doohickey balancer for the KLR. That said, I believe in the engineering fo these bikes to be adequate enough for the common user. For me, however, I have to be confident that everything needs to work, always, since mostly I tour alone in isolated places. Here is a link to the job with pictures - it would be a fun weekend project for a son and dad team, and anyways he would be exposed to the internals of the bike which is not only useful, but very satisfying. Good luck and thanks again.
procycle.us/how-to/dr650/safety-wire-your-nsu-neutral-sending-unit-screws
Read the DR650 wiki page. Do the fixes...threadlocked/torqued NSU screws, threadlocked/torqued primary nut, upper roller removal, 3rd gear upgrade, CS seal retainer, greased head/suspension bearings. Make the bike bulletproof for cheap.
If you destroy something, parts come available all the time online, even engines and frames. It's an advantage of having a 25yr production run. Even parts for other bikes can be fit, like a DR Big 520-width CS sprocket, KX450 headlight, DR250 taillight, DR350 rear wheel, or DR-Z400 suspension. The DR can be built from mild to wild. Check out the DR offerings at www.procycle.us.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I have owned both, and in my opinion, the DR easily beats the KLR. Everyone says the KLR is better on the street but I disagree. The DR is way more stable at speed. The KLR seems to get blown around more. The DR engine is smoother at 80 mph than the KLR. And the DR will run up to 100 mph when passing a semi and it does not seem to bother it like it does the KLR. And there is no mistaking the fact that it weighs about 80 pounds less than the KLR. Yes, the seat sucks on the DR but is easily replaced as is the tank. More suspension travel, more ground clearance, and yet a lower center of gravity and way lighter. On dirt roads the KLR gets twitchy above 70 mph, but I have gone 90 mph on dirt on the DR and it is rock solid. The valve adjustments are easier on the DR, and the oil cooler is much less vulnerable than the radiators on the KLR. Plus the KLR has a lot of plastic to get broken. So for me, I would get the DR, change the seat, change the tank, and totally forget about the KLR.
I agree with you that The weight savings on the DR are too significant baking the bike superior even with the need to upgrade a few things to make it your ready. I can't say I find it more stable at speed though.
Hi Nick! Just found last night your channel and found it super valuable. Also share ride priorities, adventure tastes and the red 2009 KLR.
Planning a long roundtrip Mexico Patagonia next year, and have been considering, fantasizing with the yamaha T7 and use in 50/50 rides. (Also mecanily simpleand light, but more capable bike)
What's your opinion on the T7 for that kind of trips? (I am also exactly your size and weight, not your experience though)
Best greetings from Bolivia 🇧🇴
Nice to have you. Whatever bike you decide on be sure you are able to complete basic maintenance on it. The lighter the better of course, but make sure it suits your style of riding. I didn't mind the modest performance of the KLR then cause I was new to the adv world. I had nothing to compare it to. But I'd definitely do it on a different, more capable bike now simple because I'm a better rider and can handle more machine. But in all honesty, if you look at my last video about my current garage, 5 bikes out of 10 are adv touring bikes, all of them 650 thumpers, but 4 of them prioritizing weight over everything else. 650ccs is a monster when paired with 350 pounds. Take a look for other ideas worth considering. Thanks for your question.
I love your videos. Started following a few days. Are you still using the GS Sertão? I'm new to biking and I really love the ADV sector of motorcycles. Have done Southern Africa? Would you consider it?
Thanks for watching. Glad you found your time well invested. I am riding the KTM 790 adventure at the moment. Amazing performance overall from. The ktms. I have not had the chance to visit the motherland, but would absolutely love to . Cheers. Nik
@pegasusmotorcycletours Hello Nik, thanks for your response. I really appreciate it. I am new to motorcycling, and I am a long distance trucker in Southern Africa, transitioning to Education. I was thinking of getting the Yamaha xt660z tenere. What are your thoughts? I didn't see any reviews on this specific bike.
Greetings,
Ashwin
I recently picked up a drz400, Its a fantastic bike I really love how nimble it is and I can commute and ride it hard for a week and it only takes 7 liters to fill it. That being said it doesn't feel like a mile muncher, I haven't taken it out for a long trip yet as it's not ste up yet but even going down 3 teeth on the back sprocket it's just not geared to sit on the highway all day, I know people do it but one of these 650s is far more suited to it. On a trail though, the 400 for sure, like you said you cant beat the weight advantage.
I also picked up a DRZ and am very eager to put some bags on it and see how it behaves as an ADV bike. I hear the 15/44 combo front and rear sprocket helps. I am also surprised how light and nimble it feels. IT gives so much more confidence on dirt, and makes one want to explore deeper into the woods. There are lots of dry river beds in the desert west of San Diego and each smaller stream creates a slot canyon that gets narrower and begs to be explored. I am very eager to take this bike there, but getting there is pure 80mph highway desert straights. Stay tuned for a review of it shortly and thank you for chiming in - much appreciated.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; I am releasing a review of the DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - please let me know what you think being a former owner yourself. Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Jeff at Procycle stripped a DR650 down to 320lb curb, which is similar to a stock DR-Z400S.
@@RKmndo it's possible but not the realistic. -10lbs exhaust, -5lbs Clarke tank, -5lbs lithium battery. That puts a stock Dr @346 not including stuff you add back on.
@@ridenm7748 Sub-fender removal, helmet-lock removal, passenger-peg removal, bar-weight removal, upper chain-roller substitution, mirror sub, reflector sub, signal sub, bar sub, taillight sub, fork-spring spacer sub, 520 chain/sprockets, etc.
There's a lot of weight that can be pulled off, even on such a "naked' moto as a DR650.
Awesome video! I recently bought a 03' dr650 that had a list of upgrades but the only thing the guy didn't do was the suspension, ive put about 2000 miles on it now I'm 6'1" and 250lbs, and want to upgrade the suspension, what would you reccomend? I am a college kid so budget is in my mind! Thanks for the awesome video!!!
Hey there, glad it helped you out. I would say a suspension upgrade for you would be extremely beneficial. One of the most popular brands is Progressive - the springs actually are progressive, true to their name, and perform much better. Depending on where you live, there is always a mechanic specializing in moto suspension, typically for avid sport bike track riders, so I'd start there first. Ask around your local motorcycle gear shop. Thanks for your question - please consider subscribing to help the channel grow and to be notified of the next videos. Cheers. Nik
Check out the ProCycle.us website. They sell tons of stuff for the mighty DR. I recently purchased an Eibach rear spring for my little XT250 and made a world of difference. Always been happy with prices and quality of their stuff. Cheers
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
2008 klr650. Stage2 dynojet, opened the air box with a lexx exhaust also 16 tooth counter sprocket. Runs alot better than stock. Never left me ever anywhere! 30,000 miles. Just religiously maintained. As reliable as a hammer!!!
Thanks for your participation. MY 2008 also has a 16 tooth sprocket and that helped. How has the performance been improved with the dynojet? Noticeable difference in throttle response?
@@pegasusmotorcycletours oh you can definitely tell a difference but it I wouldn't say it's like putting a flat slide carb on there but it definitely increases the power after all it is a KLR, so your not gonna kust crack the throttle n ride a wheely!!! Lol. I cut 4, 1 inch holes on top of the air box n siliconed a piece of screen to help keep debris out.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
All good points👌 My 2011 klr has now 105000km and is going to be getting a 685 rebuild. After the first year I got used to it's height (32inseam) and put the longer dog bones and heavier spring. Has a yz250 fork conversion, crash bars, and barkbusters. The classic carb mods and a Trailtech Vapour dash. With the suspension upgrade it likes jumps and the odd log hop. Not MX jumps but just enough to make me and on lookers go 😆wtf?
Never got into the whole pannier craze either. If I can't wear it or put in a pack on the rack it stays at home.
Now have a bone stock 2009 with 11000km and mint. It will get a Cogent suspension in the future. But keep it relatively factory.
That DR is noice though. I Keep telling my brother to get one. 👍
A KLR hopping a log? That would be a sight. Thank you for the suggestions, much appreciated. I will look into that. The other viewers will also appreciate it. I learn a lot from you all, so many thanks. PS: I just uploaded a new comparative review today so please check through the Chanel - KLR vs GS. Thanks for contributing to the conversation. Cheers - Nik.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
This is Cole, I know almost never see these two compared head to head. But these in the XR 650 L are pretty close tell me the XR is a more dirt version Nichelle are is a Morse Street version in the DR is kind of in the middle of the two, a little better raking trail to make it a little smoother on the roads and I think the gears are stretched out a little more but the KLR is even more so with a little more faring on it and a more comfortable seat. All are OK off-road but the balance varies for doing more distance and on road riding the killer is your choice if you want something right in the middle the DR is great and if you want something a little more towards the off-road side the XR 650 L is your choice but they’re all very similar middle of the road dual sports the different manufactures just went a little more to one side or the other. The thing I love about these is the old simple technology all of these bikes will do 100,000 miles if treated properly they’re all very comfortable easy to ride easy to own low maintenance and built very tough and you can’t go wrong with any of them. These sort of pave the way from Enduro to dual sport in their predecessors and away from dual sport to adventure touring thanks to the KLR and some of the early BMWs do what is one of the hottest segments in motorcycling today on the adventure sport arena. The Kahler and the Honda Transalp are the first bikes I think of that took dual sporting to touring with machines capable of long distance riding but still able to go off road. I think that’s why they’ve had to keep selling them for so long they were innovative in their time but simple. I would like to see them update them a little with better brakes on some but I can’t get rid of them these bikes just keep selling and people love them for a reason. I love some of the new bikes but let’s be real, if I’ve got a KTM 890 adventure and some friends say let’s go to Alaska next week in the middle of summer I have to think about it with the KTM and check my maintenance schedules and do a ton of work possibly, if I’ve got a killer I just fill it up with gas and change the oil and I’m ready to go on a several thousand mile trip pretty much any time. The KTM 890 venture is a much better bike but it’s not gonna go to many places detailer won’t go and it’s ridiculously expensive and it’s an attention whore that needs a ton of maintenance and it’s a pain in the butt to deal with. If I’m rich I can pay somebody to do that for me great but realistically for 99% of the people out there a killer is going to be fine and if you really want to boost the performance Put some money into a rear shock, progressive makes a great set up for the front and back of the KLR suspension add some Loctite re-jet put some holes in your box and put a pipe on it to get a little more power out of it and it’s a pretty capable bike for a few grand as opposed to 20 or 30 for some of the bigger more expensive adventure bikes. I get it technologies cool but in the real world practical writing there’s a lot to be said for something very simple something easy to work on something that you can have forever. The cost to find ratio and cost to mileage ratio can’t be beat on these bikes you’re never gonna get 100,000 miles out of these new bikes that tell you they have to be rebuilt after 25,000 and computers are cool and all but The more stuff you have the break the more you have to deal with and anybody who works on any kind of old vehicle will it be a boat a car a truck or a motorcycle can tell you that electronics are a pain in the butt when you double and triple the amount of electronics on a bike The best thing you can do is sell that sucker before it gets too old because it’s gonna be a nightmare to keep running. Simplicity adhesive ownership are two things people rarely consider that’s where both of these bikes in the XR 650 L shine they’re incredibly easy and they’re pretty much always ready to go
Hundred percent agree with you here. The XR was one of my favorite bikes of all time, the main problem was the 39 inch seat height for me. Have you seen my review of it? I also have a video where an idiot races around a dirt road bend and takes me out on that bike. Bit your points are excellent and valid. Thanks for taking the time.
Traded my Versys 300 x in for a KTM390 Adventure and am very glad I did, great little bike. The only draw back is the 14.5 liter gas tank but can still get 400 Km per tank so not to bad. I put the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on it. They are a true 50/50 tire the best I have ever had by a long run, got almost 5,000 Km and they still look like new, Great on paved, gravel, and dirt roads, also good on wet grass, Even with my Trekker 33/46 liter hard bags on and full still average 3.3 liters per 100 km. Still looking at the KLR 2022 for a third bike, to have one with more weather protection, for the bad weather days and all so for longer trips, Love that 23 liter gas tank, and the great millage they get, per tank of gas.
I don't have experience with smaller KTMs but do own an SXC 625 and holy smokes what a bike it is. Packs a punch unlike others in the class. I don't know how they manage to do it honestly from a 300lb bike. But again small gas tank limits the range - 60 miles max which is ridiculous. Kawasaki saw my KLR650 only review and liked it enough to be sending me the new one for review so please consider subscribing and stay tuned for that. Glad to have you here and thanks for participating in the conversation. Best
Nik
The KLR 600 and KLR 650 ( 1987) are legends they are like a tank I never change more than chain and sprockets
Truly legends with tank like dependability - well put. Thanks for participating in the conversation and welcome to my channel. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Very honest reviews and opinions! I've been loving 2017 KLR with not regrets! Beautiful dog, by the way. #KLRDelusionals
Thank you Ron, your participation and complements are much appreciated. Indah is a beautiful dog in every way. We have another AmStaff but she is camera shy. Please stay tuned for more videos of this kind. Cheers! Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Amazing scenery!
Thank you thank you - if you enjoyed this I invite you to definitely take a look at my KLR review - It claims to be the most complete review on UA-cam and portray footage I shot from my 40k miles tour across North America and Europe. Amazing scenery there. ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html
Kawasaki liked it so much they invited me to the press release of the new KLR later in the year so please consider subscribing to get notified when that comes out. Also, my partner who is a professional landscape photographer and I started a new series o this channel (due to our passion for gorgeous scenery) called Epic Rides featuring the most beautiful and memorable roads we have experienced. Here is the first episode to get you excited hopefully - highest dirt road in Europe - ua-cam.com/video/3HKhL7CQkLY/v-deo.html
Episode two was in the tropical paradise of Tahiti and episode three will be about Riviera Maya. ua-cam.com/video/WXry8oYcgs4/v-deo.html
thanks again for being here and for your support - Cheers - Nik
I have a 2013 KLR, and couldn't be happier, water cooling has it's value over oil cooling, as engines tend to last longer, the downside is crash & sump guards matter but add some weight, the doohickey balancer lever is Kawasaki's big mistake, replacement with the Eagle Mike kit & captive round torsion spring fixes it, soon both brands will need new bikes, Kawasaki should have had one in the market by now.
Thank you for your participation. I hope you found the video valuable, from one loyal and satisfied KLR owner to another. I actually have the doohickey new in a ziplock bag from Eagle Mike ready for the instal. I will make a video for that as well - help the new generation of riders keep these awesome machines on the road now that they are no longer in production. Thank you again, and please consider subscribing - it helps us grow this channel and stay independent. See you on the road - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Hi, this may be in the comments somewhere, but I'm curious to know from you and someone else, what is the best tire combo for long road and dirt capability when needed?
Pls.
Best tires for DR650 🙏 🙏 🙏
Depends on how much you'd like to spend, and how aggressive you need the tires to be for both dirt and aspahalt, dry and wet. The higher end is led by Heidenaus 60s and Metzler's toursnce, the middle end by continental tkc, the lower end of the spectrum by Shinko 704/705. More dirt aggressive would be the MotoZ tractionator. All really depends on the first two factors mentioned above.
Do you have a video where u describe the motorcycles.
Weather and accessories it's a fair video.
Yes. I have reviewed nearly ever 650 adv thumper on the market. Check out my playlist.
Great video. Couple Qs:
- How much does the DRZ weigh with an added fuel tank?
- How does the DR650 do on the highway / interstate vs the KLR?
- What's the best beginner bike of the 2 iyo? Looking for a 60 offroad / 40 on road machine ( I know some recommend less cc but I have a limited budget so can't replace bikes often)
Thank you very much. Please consider sharing and subscribing so that we can help this channel grow. The DRZ400 is about 40lbs lighter stock, which might actually be a problem on the highway - See my conversation with Ed Feten below. Your questions is hard to answer since that will depend on the size of the aftermarket tank.
- TheDR650 did surprisingly fine on the highway with this windscreen - I was expecting it to be more laborious but in fact, the Kawasaki and mildly modified DR650 are now comparable. I would actually say the windscreen on the DR650 that O installed does a better job than the KLR - the main difference is weight - momentum get you through wind gusts.
That said the KLR does fine imo - 45k miles later o na totally stock setup, and I never found a problem save for the seat.
-They are both as beginner or advanced as your own abilities dictate - the best thing about them is that they are not monster engines with loads of power - for a beginner this means more forgiving and less tempting to over-tighten that throttle in the curves. But there is nothing a GS1200 can do that the KLR could not as well - it depends on the rider. That said, I would say the DR650 is more up your alley - the weight is more manageable for a beginner and it's definitely more 60oof/40 on than a KLR is. I hope this helps - thanks for the participating - much appreciated. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Wow! Thank you so much for such a detailed and insightful answer! Subscribed!
@@FuckYoTV My pleasure - thats why we do this :) Cheers! Nik
@Liberty Tree Very grateful to you for the support - Safe travels and looking forward to growing this channel and community organically, and together. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
What are your thoughts now that Kawasaki is releasing the 2022 KLR650? I know your projects are the DR400 and BMW650. I'm going to be upgrading from a CRF250L and looking hard at the new KLR650. I'm a new rider age 62. I was sold on the T700, but came to my senses that I would be spending a lot more money on a bike that I could never come close to riding it as hard as it can go.
Thanks for your question - the new KLR is good looking, and it's great that they made the much needed improvemente (EFI, doohickey, fuel gage, etc) but it remains heavy. I have reviewed the 2nd gen KLR solo quite extensively in this video, and in other's comparing it to the DR650, and BMW Sertao - I hope you find this KLR specific review more helpful. ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html
Glad to have you here - thanks for participating in the conversation. I am more in favor of much lighter bikes and have been getting to know my KTM SMC and Honda XR650L. I also released a video in the first week of this year showing what exciting reviews are coming in 2021 including the review of the rare and amazing BMW G650XChallenge - so maybe you find a bike in this list more suitable for your needs. Congrats on getting into the game - for new riders the T700 is a lot of bike with excellent capability,but I would suggest a simpler, lighter, more easy to get to know bike - the new KLR is a great option for you (price point is excellent) you get a lot of bike for the money, and if you don't plan on doing any hard dirt, it might be the one! ua-cam.com/video/ydQ1LMAFiVI/v-deo.html
I hope to hear from you in the future. Cheers - Nik
I have a 2003 DR650 I bought it in 2005. with only 400 miles. The guy I bought it from also had a KLR650 and he had just bought a KTM 650. He had to sell the KLR or the DR. I bought the DR because it just looked more dirt worthy. He had jetted it for maximum power. It is a beast. I love it. Great on the road too. it hauls. I called the guy a few weeks after to see if he wanted to ride, he told me he had trashed the ktm bike the previous weekend in Big Bear on a light snow trail. I hugged my bike and I told him how sad I felt for him. am getting up there in years(66) and struggle picking it up sometimes, so my next bike will be a DR400 or that SWM 500R, supposedly about 300 lb and more dirt worthy. Maybe even the new CRF300L fuel injected bike. I like taking dirt traiIs and they can get difficult sometimes if they are not maintained. I still like the DR650 because it is better on the dirt. I enjoyed your review - good solid info.
Thank you for the comment and for being part of this community - great to have more locals join. I am glad you found the review accurate and valuable - My last review was of the DRZ400S so feel free to take a look - it has gotten nothing but positive feedback so far so that makes me happy. It definitely is a much lighter and dirt capable bike. I also own a KTM SXC625 - holy smokes, what a machine - please stay tuned for that review, and this weekend I will be finishing up filming for my Honda XR650L - riding up to Santiago Peak with Gene actually. Ride safe and hope to see you soon - for that reason, please d consider subscribing so that you can also catch the KTM review - I have a feeling you would love that bike.
DRZ Review - ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html
Hey! What brand skidplate and crashbars do you have on the KLR? I need to get both and dont know which to get.
On my US KLR I have Tusk aftermarket almost everything. On the European one I have SW Motech from TwistedThrottle. Good luck.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
You guys need to visit with Alex Chacon about travel on KLR650. He has ridden all over South America, Central America, Mexico, USA, Canada and Alaska on the KLR 650 and has magnificent videos on UA-cam. I love your work and I am a subscriber.
Thanks. I'm good friends with Alex actually. Had him stay with my childhood friend in Montenegro when He was there on his T7. Thanks for watching. Greetings from Eastern Soerras, I'm leading a tour and we just sat down for some food and beer. Thanks for the support
Nik
For shade, buy one of the small umbrellas; about $5. Collapses to a foot long and opens to about 4-foot shade.
Excellent suggestion. We haven't had rain here in SoCal so I never carry one for local trips. Thanks for watching.
Excelente comparison
Thank you very much - glad you found it useful. Please take a look at my KLR review - it's quite comprehensive. I also reviewed other bikes in this 650 category, two from BMW. Also, please consider subscribing to be notified of exciting news I will announce come new year, and for three more reviews in this class of a BMW, KTM and Honda. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Get a Corbin seat for your KLR you will love it
No doubt, I got one on my !996 electra Glide and it changed everything! Thank you - I wasn't aware they made one for the KLR - Will look into it. Much appreciate.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Different bikes for a different purpose! Do you plan on doin longer runns on road and lighter trails? KLR. Shorter day trips and heavier off-road? DR. You cant really go wrong with either. Cars come in different colors for a reason. I went with the DR and love it! Would have loved to find a nice klx650!
Thanks for watching and participating in a conversation I think you're absolutely right. If you enjoy these reviews I have reviewed nearly every competitor motorcycle in the 650 ATV thumper class and you can find that in the playlist.
Nice video! Truth is, if you're going for round-the-world trips, you might want to get the bike that's more suited to street riding in stock condition (KLR). But, if you're not sure what's more satisfying: tearing up pavement or ripping down trails, then the DR offers you a platform that can be built to either specification. You don't have the same flexibility with the KLR. The DR can be made into an ADV touring bike every bit as capable (and sometimes more so) as the KLR. But the DR will always be a better off-road bike than the KLR because of the geometry and weight. In my opinion, pavement is boring. Pavement isn't the ride, pavement is what stands between me and the ride. I want to see the dirt roads, two-tracks, and cow trails that 99% of people never get to see. I want a bike that can take on just about anything a mountain trail can throw at it and keep clawing for more. And I don't want to have to use a truck to trailer my bike until I can get to the trail (why I don't have a straight dirt bike.) So, for me, it was a no-brainer. The Suzuki DR650 was the winner, hands down. It's cheap, has an aftermarket community that rivals Jeeps, and it's simple enough that a knucklehead like me can still work on it. I'd recommend it to anyone who likes the thrill of the *_road less traveled!_*
Beautifully put - we seem to agree one hundred percent on this. The feeling and sound of the gravel crackling under the rubber is one of my favorite sensations, ever since I was a child. The motorcycle simply offers more opportunities to get lost deeper in the woods than a jeep can. And on the cheap! Thank you for weighing in. Please consider subscribing so that we can build this channel and community together. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Subscribed! Thanks Nik!
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Looks like a great video! I'll have to check it out! Thanks for dropping me the note Nik!
Suspension travel is so important for me.
I totally agree - I was amazed how much more confidence I had to ride the DR650 compared to the KLR.- and to ride it in a more daring way, at a faster speed. What do you ride? Thank you for watching and for your support. Please consider subscribing to help this channel grow. Cheers. Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Love my KLR and all the mods I have done & made myself- no self respecting BMW rider would dare fit anything thats not factory approved ! But the KLR and the people that ride them generally don't care and put function above form .
100% agree - in fact I recently picked up a GS650 just to see whats about. I have been both satisfied and disappointed with that bike - I also picked up a DRZ400S so please stay tuned for those reviews. However, all roads ultimately lead back to the trusty KLR. Thanks for the message - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Sorry to disagree Pegasus but I love the way the DR650 handles on the road too. And I think it looks pretty cool too. For me it hands down beats the KLR.
I agree with you about the tank-bag problem with the plastic tank but I wear a Fjallraven messenger bag over my shoulder for carrying my phone n iPad and other stuff I don't want to lose, that solves that problem. And riding without a tank bag when you've got a lot of luggage up is a plus imho.
Thanks for this video - awesome.
Hi Anthony and thanks for participating I the conversation. I agree that the DR650 is a better bike for the purpose. I actually just picked up th eHonda XR650L and will be reviewing it in due time, but right away I see the DR still takes the lead I this race. Please stay tuned for an upcoming review of my GA650XChallege - in the 350lb mark with 11 inches of clearance and travel - that was proper ADV touring platform. Thanks for being part of this community - cheers- Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
So did I hear him right at 2:18? The best way to learn a bike is " to hit the dirt a few times." Another great American badass, I guess.
Thanks for watching. Crashing is part of the learning process. Jeanne just returned after 2.5 years riding all of south America. I'll be hosting a live presentation here in San Diego and via UA-cam in February where he talks about his trip. Stay tuned for that. Awesome stories he is bringing back.
So for a start off the DR650 doesn't come like that. You've added a bash plate, larger tank (Acerbis?) , screen, pannier frames are also added and the seat doesn't look original. If so start adding up the cost of all that and your instrumentation consists of a speedo, odometer & trip. Pretty basic and it's a trail bike not adventure or dual purpose. However you need to spend quite a lot of money to bring it up to spec. The Royal Enfield has all that and more as standard, apart from the pannier frames, however pannier mounts are already there. Himalayan also has far superior instrument panel including a fuel gauge (analogue), 2 X trips, clock, ambient temperature, gear indicator and a compass as well as a analogue rev counter. The DR650 is looking pretty dated in comparison. Oh & I forgot the Himalayan has a main stand (standard), as well as a carrier. Don't think the DR or KLR has any of that. Oh and I nearly forgot the Himalayan comes with a screen as standard too. Gosh that's an adventure bike set up right out the box. The DR is lighter & has pretty good power and plush suspension however here the Himalayan is $7,500 on the road where the DR650 is just shy of $10,000 with none of the bits the Himalayan comes with as standard. The gap is getting bigger I think. Not sure how much longer the DR will meet emissions for. Otherwise it is a basic good all round bike but looking a bit dated now with what's on offer.
Hi Frank - thanks for that detailed comment - do you own the Himalayan? It is most definitely a bike in my sight for the near future, and the price can most certainly not be beat. A bike that comes ready for adventure like that, with a proven name, is worth considering. My main issue with it is the small engine size. I have also been hearing one to many stories fo the front end simply snapping off - have you seen/heard anything of this sort? I am genuinely interested in seeing what that bike is about, so any guidance is always appreciated. Also I heard the brakes are a bit weak but this is the case throughout the class. What do you think about spare part availability for that bike - would it be a bike you would trust taking o na prolonged trip down south through Latin America, for example? Thank you for participating in the conversation.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Yes I had one and loved it. I am looking at buying another one in Australia to do some touring there and will leave my other bike here in NZ. Issues with Himalayan. The carb model run very lean to meet emissions. Answer take it to a bike shop with a Dyno and get the jet's tuned to the bike. My compass was not accurate. I was told do figure 8's. This didn't work for me although I tryed many times. First European had to take the instrument cluster off to calibrate. Presumably doing a similar antic with the instruments. After this was done never had any more issues with it-handy tool to have. They all seemed to suffer with poor quality rim tape. My tube literally exploded on the highway. I put insulation tape over the spoke heads then put new rim tape on and fitted new Michelin Sirac Tyre.No problem after that. The other option with the rim tape issue is to replace with TUbliss system (no tube). Removes the weak link altogether. The ambient temperature gauge is totally inaccurate. I suspect the sender is under the tank as the false reading comes once engine has heated up. Probably move it behind instrument cluster. These are relatively minor niggles, otherwise very comfortable on long trips-handles amazing on/off road & love the fuel gauge for off road. Range is very good at just over 400 ks. You can get over 500ks by adding a couple of 3 ltr fuel cans-1 each side of the pannier frames beside tank. The other option for these frames which I used them for were Via Trail waterproof bags for your day to day tools-hats-chain lube etc. Easy to work on and everything is accessible and the parts are very reasonable. It's not fast but it's fast enough to cover the miles reliably. It's also a descent weight for a 411cc single. These last 2 reason's were why I bought my Ducati Scrambler Classic. However the Himalayan just get's the job done wherever you go in a relatively un-fussed manor. I hear you say do you miss it-yes certainly which is why I wouldn't hesitate buying another one. Loved it and I went to some extraordinary places that I otherwise would never have seen, and to be fair I'm really not the great off road, however it does inspire confidence with it's easy manor. Check out the adventures with Itchy Boots.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great review, stock klr seat on the 14.5 onwards is awesome they really worked on it. I had the 2013 klr but got hit and wrote it off so bought the 2014.5 version and it was so much more comfortable. Tusk is great, everide did the torture test and he really went to town with them and they survived.
Thanks for that info - I had heard of the seat upgrade for the newer years but have not had the experience. I will keep an eye out for a used seat - would be very curious to see how different they are. Thanks for participating in the conversation and I am glad the review was valuable. I just picked up a. GS650 to see what it is all about sop please consider subscribing and stay tuned for more. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Great content! I'm in the market to buy 1 or 2 of 3 bikes, klr650, dr650, and a f650gs. I'm looking to buy the 06 f650gs first, for $2600, then probably a 2017 or 2018 klr.
Thanks for watching - glad you found it useful. Please stay tuned for the review of the G650GS Sertao - a direct competitor and a best of the three. I have also since purchased another rare BMW - the G650XChallenge - not a common bike at all although it shares the famous 650 Rotax - but.....it's only 350 pounds with loads more travel and ground clearance. check it out - you won't be disappointed - and please stay tuned for more comparisons. Cheers - Nik
Bought the 06 BMW f650gs, need to repair or replace the oil tank. Also put back the original dog bones, it sits way to low. I'm dragging in a turn, guy who previously owned it lowered it cause he was a shot guy. Got any suggestions on a good shock? I'm 6'1, 340lbs.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I never really thought about the theft aspect of it, that makes a lot of sense and that makes it a much better option than something like a KTM or a BMW or even maybe in Africa twin. It’s a lot easier to lose $5000 bike that a $15,000 or $20,000 bike Aunt on the fact that it’s older and simpler looking is going to be less enticing to a thief probably are, great point
Exactly. I remember walking into a Kawasaki dealership in Rio de Janeiro and seeing the sticker on one of their sport bikes - it was literally three times the price one would pay in the US. I though, no wonder you never see these on the road there...whose crazy to be sitting at a red light after dark in something so easily taken. Tha ks for watching.
Hello. What are those red tubes? Can you talk about them are they diy project?
Hi there - Welcome to the channel. I hoe you found the video useful. Those are welding rod holders - you can order them from Lowes online for a bout $12 a piece. Watertight and very strong and rigid. They can fit a whole bottle of wine. I talk about them more in my review of the Vstrom ,so check that video out. Cheers, Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
The brake line on the Dr is not routed incorrectly. Should run on the inside of the fork
Thanks for pointing that out. And for watching this lengthy review. Greene is now in Argentina with this DR. KoreanKowboy on insta of you're interested to follow his journey. Had to change the clutch in Chile already. Cheers. Nik
DR PROS: 2022 DR650 is $800US cheaper than the 2022 KLR650. The DR undercarriage provides 2" more clearance for off road riding and 3" more suspension travel, front and rear, than the KLR. The DR is air/oil cooled utilizing a no maintenance oil cooling system vs the KLR radiator/water cooled system which requires antifreeze testing, updating and flushing. The biggest pro is the DR650 weighing 366lbs compared to the KLR's 488lbs. For perspective, the KLR weight is equal to a DR carrying the operator and additional 122lb passenger which seriously broadens the difference in performance between the two mid 40hp models. DR650 CONS: The DR has a 1/2" higher seat height. The DR fuel tank is smaller with a 3.4 gallon tank vs. the KLR 6.1 gallon. DISPELLED MYTH: The DR does not lack sealed road capabilities, it can cruise all day at 70MPH and are known, all things being equal, have greater engine longevity. The specs here are factory reported and are what set apart these two long produced models of 650's. Anyone who disputes these facts are doing so solely to justify their purchase, to promote unsupported bias's and like politics and religion shut themselves out to any other narratives.
Very well summarized. Nothing to add or argua woth the facts you list.
Have the Acerbis tank on my DR 650 and it has a locking gas cap, just have to order it for the tank. The DR chain is easy to adjust but it has to be almost to loos, to go up the next notch, so it is not to tight. Had the old stile KLR and loved the softer suspension on it. Thinking of trading my Versys 300 X in on a 2022 KLR Versys great bike but don't like the high rev engine. The DR for day rids and rough roads and the KLR for longer touring or 2 up. Bough great bikes. Don't like windshields on the DR, Love the feel of the wind on my chest. and a good rain suit works better than any windshield to keep you dry.
All great points. Thanks for sharing. I don't have experience with the smaller versys but have been looking for the two larger brothers. I also am in conversation with Kawasaki to get my hands on the new KLR to review, so please consider subscribing to be notified. I also have three more reviews coming out in the 650 category (KTMSXC625, Honda XR650L and BMW XChallenge). Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I am waiting for a good review on the 2022 KLR Just got a set of Dunlop trailmax mission for the Versys 300x so will most likely ware them down before talking trade for the KLR, also want to put a set of them on my DR650. You should take the 300 X for a test great little bike. but I like 650 singles, sort of stuck on them.
I used to pack like that, not anymore. I reevaluated what I was carrying and only carry what I absolutely need. Went to ultra light gear and dropped 60 lbs.
Thank you for your message. I carry about 55lb worth of sleeping, clothing, kitchen, lighting, and other gear in the pack on top. The luggage hold tools and spare parts and video equipment. As the new gear get lighter I will certainly be loosing some weight, but I found this set up to work bst for me. There will always be a tricky balance game between comfort and weight but 60 pounds of shedding is impressive on your part. Thanks for your message - I am currently editing the "what to pack" video so please stay tuned for that. Cheers - Nik
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
What brand are the red plastic containers, and what do you typically keep in them?
Hi there - Welcome to the channel. I hope you found the video useful. Those are welding rod holders - you can order them from Lowes online for a bout $12 a piece. Watertight and very strong and rigid. They can fit a whole bottle of wine. I talk about them more in my review of the Vstrom ,so check that video out. I typically hold tire irons in them as well as any other heavy metal tool, to lower the weight center of gravity. If I am visitng a friend or a new host, they fit a bottle of wine perfectly. Cheers, Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thankyou. Greetings from New Zealand. Stay safe.
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
I see you were in San Diego area, are you based here? i am interested on learning off road skills and touring.
Hi there William. Yes, based in sunny San Diego. There are so many amazing off-road opportunities, right here in our county. There is also a lot to learn, and most of our work is consulting/education. Do you already have a motorcycle? Feel free to reach out via email or phone at www.PegasusMotorcycleTours.com and I will be happy to help you on your way to competent ADV touring. Cheers - Nik
Also, considering our channel is dedicated to helping riders develop skills for solo ADV touring, please consider subscribing so that you can be informed as new videos come out. Also it helps this channel grow and stay independent of commercial sponsorship. Thank you!
Greetings again - I hope all is well with you and yours. If you are still considering the KLR please take a look at my comprehensive review of that awesome bike here ua-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/v-deo.html ; And if you are maybe considering the lighter, more dirt oriented DRZ400, a review of that bike is premiering at noon pacific time this Saturday so I hope to see you there - Between the DR650 and the DRZ 400 the choice is definitely not easy to make. I myself was surprised at how capable and com[parable the two are. ua-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/v-deo.html Cheers - Nik
Using your opinion on what add-ons/after-markets make a bike trail worthy, which bike cost less, if there is an appreciable difference, after they are dirt worthy?
The KLR needs next to nothing to make it ready for a round the world trip, but it will always be less dirt worth due to suspension and weight. I am releasing a review of the new KLR this Saturday which is much improved so please tune in. Another great competitor is the Honda XR650L - another review in the making.
Oil cooled is ok of you never have to get stuck in traffic, or like driving through San Francisco city driving, it will have your oil over heated, water thin and the rods will be knocking!
No doubt - good point. my KLR in Europe overheats now because I've damaged the radiator in a crash in Spain, but the thermobob upgrade actually helped that problem.
I don’t see Gene wearing proper boots for off-road riding. I wear Thor motocross boots while riding dirt on my DRZ400S and they have saved me many leg injuries over the years, including last weekend when my foot peg tried to take out my Achilles Tendon.
Yeah he was just getting into the game and didn't have the proper gear then. He learned it right away that day even when his bike pinned his knee against dirt wall. He is well geared now and is currently in El Salvador heading south. Thanks for participating in the conversation. There are studies that show that boots are the most important piece of protection after the helmet cause typically the for hits first and it's such a complex body part with the little metatarsals.