I bought a 15 lb bar at Target for 30 dollars and all my plates were about a dollar a pound. They can be stacked in a corner and can make a place to hang your coats. I have used my plates for 12 years. Sure if I have access to a good gym and olympic bumpers or good machines I do it. But I always have them and when I am home I can train.
For most people, I think your set up is ideal. It's how I started. I still think that 110 pounds/50 kilos is enough for the majority of people I train with...
I must admit I usually use the 25s all 4 and a 10 or 5 or both on each side. So I guess I over bought by 100 bucks or so. I have done less than 100 reps so 250 or more dead lifting. I haven't found deadlifting helps my clean.
You probably do not want to put much more than 200lbs on a 15lb bar. Recipe for disaster. Get a 45lb bar if you can afford 300lbs worth of plates. That's like a child's bar
@@stephen8996 I'm on social security and I'm almost 64. I do some cleans, front squats, snatch grip deads and my fav press, push press or jerk. I have done thousands of workouts. Many people buy expensive equipment and never use it. Not me buddy.
I find "mechanical advantage" sets to be good for improving my overhead press, especially if I think there is a psychological issue to handling more weight. Basically, I take a weight that has a big discrepancy between my ability to strict press it and to push press it. For me, that's a pair of 32kg kettlebells. I can clean and press them 3 times (3rm), and I want to move that up to 5 times(5rm). So in a set of 5 reps of repeating clean and presses (re-cleaning for every press) I will do a clean and 1 strict press, re-clean the bells, do one push press, re-clean the bells and to push presses from there until the set is complete. Overtime, I will add more strict presses to my sets of 5. So, think of it as sets of push presses, but your sneaking in a rep or two of strict presses here and there when no one is looking.
It is said that pressing exercises (bench, OHP, squat, etc.) benefit from more frequent touches I.e. higher frequency. It definitely indirectly means a bit higher volume, but not every session needs to be an all out effort session. If you can lift only twice a week, do your OHP in both sessions using whatever combo of intensity, volume, etc as long as it doesn't burn you out or stall the progress.
Hi Dan, I'm Paul Doherty from Scotland. I'm the same age as you and I have managed to keep strong and fit most my adult life, especially the last 20 years. I read Wandering Weights every week, which is a wonderful source of sound advice. I have had a catheter fitted waiting for a prostate operation. I'll have it in for about 3 months. Just enough time to lose all my strength if I don't find a way to keep training. Have you ever given advice to someone in my position on what to do to hold on to their strength ?
Really, all I can tell you is that let’s just hope for the best. The fact that you’re even concerned about this is inspiring. Try to take things one step at a time as best you can. Moreover, please let me know how this goes.
I “Just Pressed” myself into a shoulder impingement with KBs. Technique and muscular imbalances seem like they’d have to be a factor to help the OP. I’ll acknowledge those are … possibly a bit hard to diagnose via email. I Love your content, I just want to save the next person from my “discovery” that more alone isn’t necessarily the whole story
That's always my concern with the barbell press. The upside of the single KB is that you get to use that human "independent suspension" system and that helps a lot of garage shoulders (and usually from benching, throwing, and collisions).
This reminds me of something i learned kinda late in life, prioritization. Some people might have a specific talent that they want to prioritize, making the most of that God-given strength. Some people prefer to identify a weakness and prioritize that, bringing it up until it perhaps becomes a strength. Growing up, I was the fastest kid in school. In the fifth grade I raced the fastest kids on the Jr. High track team and beat them with relative ease. I started playing football and by my freshman year i was faster than all the seniors. The problem was I was really small, so started lifting weights and did nothing but eat and lift through the end of highschool. I got a litter bigger, a quite a bit stronger, but lost a lot of speed. In hindsight, i wish I'd developed the gift that God gave me instead of focusing on what i wasn't naturally gifted at. I worked really hard to not be the smallest guy on the team but ended of playing second string anyway to an athlete who went on to play football at the collegiate level. If i would have focused on developing what i was naturally good at, I'd had a real shot at a college scholarship... in track. Now I'm almost 50, and weightlifting is still a routine part of my life, but it was something I never excelled at. I have no medals, trophies, or ribbons on any strength sport. No bodybuilding contest pics to show my grandkids. Nothing to show for my efforts but a torn peck, damaged rotator cuffs, knees that will need surgery sooner than later, hips of a 75 year-old, tendonitis in most my joints, and a lower-back that nags me like a bitter old woman. But i still hit the gym a few times a week because i love how it makes me feel to get a good workout in, and I'm to a point now where my mind & body feels worse if I don't do it.
I change things up fairly simply. Basically I go by the seasons. I’ve been doing that for a long time when I was young and we played multiple sports. It was just so easy to do.
Think im a quiet good kettlebell athlete...love snatches ,have a strong tgu ,can press 36 kg with one Arm completly strict 2 times per side ,70 kg with a Barbell few times strict BUT 2×32 kg bells do not move higher than from rack Position to close over head,struggle with the 28 kg for 3 reps. Hate it . I know its a mobility issue but tried many things...dead hang ,rotator cuff stuff and so on ... do you maybe have any other idea ? Sporting greetings
Hello Dan I’m a 55yr old semi retired fire fighter still raising 4 sons with my wife. Long ago I had numbers that even you may have found respectable. A dozen yrs ago or more I was sidelined with serious mental illness. I’ve really only been stable enough to get under a bar the last few months. Do you still promote your one lift a day program? If so are there any modifications you’ve made? I’ve adopted parts of it. 7x5, 6x3, 5-3-2-2 Bench, squat, DL, a standing press and a row over 3 days a week. I warm up with a C2 session and try to include some accessory lifts. Thank you.
It's great if you are O lifting and/or have a great base of training. It's an intense program but a traditional program might be better for you. Have you tried the Workout Generator?
I absolutely agree on the Press responding well to volume. I got my Press to 225+ by training similar to what the lifters did in York Barbell club back in the 1940s and 50s... E.g. Frank Spellman did 10 sets of 3 multiple times per week; he weighed 165 lbs and made a successful Press at 285 lbs during the Olympic Try-Outs in 1956. ua-cam.com/video/HyD1c0fTX1Q/v-deo.html --- And this would be the music playing on your A.M. radio when you drive back home from the event... ua-cam.com/video/kWw5HDErmL4/v-deo.html The big con of this is tension on the joints. I cannot train like this year round! Many lifters alternated weeks with focus on the Press, then focus on Snatch, then focus on Clean & Jerk. There were cases of lifters who got strong in the press just by lowering their jerks under control, which was required since they trained with iron plates.
Hey John, i m facing a weird issue whie training biceps. Whenever i am passed 10 reps with optimal weight, i feel burning in neck behind. I have begun to face this after i started doing squats and deadlifts. Please guide me.
First, please call me "Dan." That's fairly common in barbell curls. I'm sure it is the same positive benefits we find from Zercher squats. It's teaching the body to be "one piece," to train as a whole.
I bought a 15 lb bar at Target for 30 dollars and all my plates were about a dollar a pound. They can be stacked in a corner and can make a place to hang your coats. I have used my plates for 12 years. Sure if I have access to a good gym and olympic bumpers or good machines I do it. But I always have them and when I am home I can train.
For most people, I think your set up is ideal. It's how I started. I still think that 110 pounds/50 kilos is enough for the majority of people I train with...
@@DanJohnStrengthCoach i have 310 lbs of plates. I also think it helps me that I can't squat more than I can clean. I never wanted to buy a rack.
I must admit I usually use the 25s all 4 and a 10 or 5 or both on each side. So I guess I over bought by 100 bucks or so. I have done less than 100 reps so 250 or more dead lifting. I haven't found deadlifting helps my clean.
You probably do not want to put much more than 200lbs on a 15lb bar. Recipe for disaster. Get a 45lb bar if you can afford 300lbs worth of plates. That's like a child's bar
@@stephen8996 I'm on social security and I'm almost 64. I do some cleans, front squats, snatch grip deads and my fav press, push press or jerk. I have done thousands of workouts. Many people buy expensive equipment and never use it. Not me buddy.
I find "mechanical advantage" sets to be good for improving my overhead press, especially if I think there is a psychological issue to handling more weight. Basically, I take a weight that has a big discrepancy between my ability to strict press it and to push press it. For me, that's a pair of 32kg kettlebells. I can clean and press them 3 times (3rm), and I want to move that up to 5 times(5rm). So in a set of 5 reps of repeating clean and presses (re-cleaning for every press) I will do a clean and 1 strict press, re-clean the bells, do one push press, re-clean the bells and to push presses from there until the set is complete. Overtime, I will add more strict presses to my sets of 5. So, think of it as sets of push presses, but your sneaking in a rep or two of strict presses here and there when no one is looking.
That’s outstanding. Thanks for sharing this.
So are you doing push pressing to help your strict press? I always enjoyed push presses
It is said that pressing exercises (bench, OHP, squat, etc.) benefit from more frequent touches I.e. higher frequency.
It definitely indirectly means a bit higher volume, but not every session needs to be an all out effort session.
If you can lift only twice a week, do your OHP in both sessions using whatever combo of intensity, volume, etc as long as it doesn't burn you out or stall the progress.
That’s a very good point. I think that’s true.
Hi Dan, I'm Paul Doherty from Scotland. I'm the same age as you and I have managed to keep strong and fit most my adult life, especially the last 20 years. I read Wandering Weights every week, which is a wonderful source of sound advice.
I have had a catheter fitted waiting for a prostate operation. I'll have it in for about 3 months. Just enough time to lose all my strength if I don't find a way to keep training. Have you ever given advice to someone in my position on what to do to hold on to their strength ?
Really, all I can tell you is that let’s just hope for the best. The fact that you’re even concerned about this is inspiring. Try to take things one step at a time as best you can. Moreover, please let me know how this goes.
Thanks Dan. I‘ll get back to you after the op.
I “Just Pressed” myself into a shoulder impingement with KBs.
Technique and muscular imbalances seem like they’d have to be a factor to help the OP. I’ll acknowledge those are … possibly a bit hard to diagnose via email.
I Love your content, I just want to save the next person from my “discovery” that more alone isn’t necessarily the whole story
That's always my concern with the barbell press. The upside of the single KB is that you get to use that human "independent suspension" system and that helps a lot of garage shoulders (and usually from benching, throwing, and collisions).
This reminds me of something i learned kinda late in life, prioritization. Some people might have a specific talent that they want to prioritize, making the most of that God-given strength. Some people prefer to identify a weakness and prioritize that, bringing it up until it perhaps becomes a strength.
Growing up, I was the fastest kid in school. In the fifth grade I raced the fastest kids on the Jr. High track team and beat them with relative ease. I started playing football and by my freshman year i was faster than all the seniors. The problem was I was really small, so started lifting weights and did nothing but eat and lift through the end of highschool. I got a litter bigger, a quite a bit stronger, but lost a lot of speed. In hindsight, i wish I'd developed the gift that God gave me instead of focusing on what i wasn't naturally gifted at. I worked really hard to not be the smallest guy on the team but ended of playing second string anyway to an athlete who went on to play football at the collegiate level. If i would have focused on developing what i was naturally good at, I'd had a real shot at a college scholarship... in track. Now I'm almost 50, and weightlifting is still a routine part of my life, but it was something I never excelled at. I have no medals, trophies, or ribbons on any strength sport. No bodybuilding contest pics to show my grandkids. Nothing to show for my efforts but a torn peck, damaged rotator cuffs, knees that will need surgery sooner than later, hips of a 75 year-old, tendonitis in most my joints, and a lower-back that nags me like a bitter old woman. But i still hit the gym a few times a week because i love how it makes me feel to get a good workout in, and I'm to a point now where my mind & body feels worse if I don't do it.
I change things up fairly simply. Basically I go by the seasons. I’ve been doing that for a long time when I was young and we played multiple sports. It was just so easy to do.
Think im a quiet good kettlebell athlete...love snatches ,have a strong tgu ,can press 36 kg with one Arm completly strict 2 times per side ,70 kg with a Barbell few times strict BUT 2×32 kg bells do not move higher than from rack Position to close over head,struggle with the 28 kg for 3 reps. Hate it . I know its a mobility issue but tried many things...dead hang ,rotator cuff stuff and so on ... do you maybe have any other idea ? Sporting greetings
Let's get some eyes/hands on that. This might be something simple...or not!...so see a physical therapist or physio.
@@DanJohnStrengthCoach ok Coach. Will give it a try !
Hello Dan
I’m a 55yr old semi retired fire fighter still raising 4 sons with my wife. Long ago I had numbers that even you may have found respectable. A dozen yrs ago or more I was sidelined with serious mental illness. I’ve really only been stable enough to get under a bar the last few months.
Do you still promote your one lift a day program? If so are there any modifications you’ve made? I’ve adopted parts of it. 7x5, 6x3, 5-3-2-2
Bench, squat, DL, a standing press and a row over 3 days a week. I warm up with a C2 session and try to include some accessory lifts.
Thank you.
It's great if you are O lifting and/or have a great base of training. It's an intense program but a traditional program might be better for you. Have you tried the Workout Generator?
@@DanJohnStrengthCoach
No sir
I absolutely agree on the Press responding well to volume. I got my Press to 225+ by training similar to what the lifters did in York Barbell club back in the 1940s and 50s... E.g. Frank Spellman did 10 sets of 3 multiple times per week; he weighed 165 lbs and made a successful Press at 285 lbs during the Olympic Try-Outs in 1956. ua-cam.com/video/HyD1c0fTX1Q/v-deo.html ---
And this would be the music playing on your A.M. radio when you drive back home from the event... ua-cam.com/video/kWw5HDErmL4/v-deo.html
The big con of this is tension on the joints. I cannot train like this year round! Many lifters alternated weeks with focus on the Press, then focus on Snatch, then focus on Clean & Jerk. There were cases of lifters who got strong in the press just by lowering their jerks under control, which was required since they trained with iron plates.
Thank you for sharing this
Hey John, i m facing a weird issue whie training biceps. Whenever i am passed 10 reps with optimal weight, i feel burning in neck behind. I have begun to face this after i started doing squats and deadlifts. Please guide me.
First, please call me "Dan." That's fairly common in barbell curls. I'm sure it is the same positive benefits we find from Zercher squats. It's teaching the body to be "one piece," to train as a whole.
When my front squat increases, my overhead press increases. Go figure.
That's how progression works! (Strangely!)
If you jump/ bounce as you press , makes a lot of sense . Getting a boost from legs .