5 Acoustic Guitars Under $1000 We Would Buy Right Now

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    Alvarez MD60BG Masterworks 60 Dreadnought: www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
    Taylor GS Mini Rosewood Acoustic Guitar: www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
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  • @markashworth983
    @markashworth983 8 місяців тому +11

    Hey, great video, guys! A little over a year ago I was looking for a new guitar, and after much looking, comparing, and prayer I decided on the Yamaha LL16. Beautiful guitar! My dealer was out of stock, so I had to special order with them. After nearly a year of anxious waiting--and reevaluating--I decided instead to buy a burst Yamaha LS16 folk body guitar that they had in stock. Wow, for 899.00, it is incredible! I couldn't believe the sound and playability the first time I played it! I seriously couldn't recommend it more.

  • @Photomac07
    @Photomac07 8 місяців тому +17

    Those Taylor GS Mini guitars are incredible value for the sound and look you get from them. Being a travel guitar it makes it pretty versatile as well. I do agree that the Sitka spruce and Rosewood combo is great but I bought a used Koa deluxe model with burst design and Expression system that had a solid top. Gorgeous guitar and sounds amazing to me. Just wanted something different to pair with my Taylor 814ce Builder Edition that came with Adirondack spruce top and Indian Rosewood back and sides.
    As for Alvarez guitars… I am a huge fan and so glad someone else appreciates them and that made the list. Alvarez will be the next guitar I would buy. Wish I could find them locally where I live. You really can’t go wrong with an Alvarez. Quality, craftsmanship, value, and sound for an incredible price! One of my favorite guitars I ever owned was an Alvarez!

  • @tp5401
    @tp5401 7 місяців тому +17

    Seagull maritime cutaway. Seagull doesn't get the love they deserve. Beautiful craftsmanship, beautiful tayloresque sound, amazingly playable. I love mine! Got the one with electronics (new its over $1000) used for 500. Without the electronics though you are in under $1000 and comes with a very nice gig bag

    • @johnkessler9878
      @johnkessler9878 6 місяців тому +2

      I own two seagul guitars and love them. One of the few guitamrs that still have bridge grooves, which hugely improve sustain.

    • @dietersdawgs
      @dietersdawgs 4 місяці тому +2

      Godin products seldom get the love they deserve....the people who snub them, well it's their loss.

    • @timoheinrich8763
      @timoheinrich8763 3 місяці тому +2

      I got a Seagull S6 10 years ago in heavily used but soundwise perfect condition for 150€
      I love that guitar and have recorded it a ton. Will never give it away :)

    • @someguy4505
      @someguy4505 2 місяці тому

      I just watched a video about Seagull guitars: ua-cam.com/video/rQpqFNVffPM/v-deo.htmlsi=VBbZKrjwSeTkEZEb

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 15 днів тому

      Many of us do not like the Taylor sound.

  • @94dodgedude
    @94dodgedude 8 місяців тому +20

    Takamine makes great guitars under $1000. I went to my local store with a friend who's never played before and we tried a bunch of guitars and he connected with an all solid sapele Takamine NEX which is their grand auditorium cutaway guitar for $449 without a case. $600 plus tax for everything and it's a great guitar for those who like the all sapele/mahogany tones. Would love to see a breakdown on a Takamine. Thanks for the great content guys!

    • @Ellis_Dee25
      @Ellis_Dee25 6 місяців тому

      I played one of those a few years ago and couldn’t believe how great to sounded. Felt nice too.

    • @johnlee4973
      @johnlee4973 6 місяців тому +1

      Totally agree. I have 2 Tak guitars. First one I bought new in 1982, still have it, refretted it a few years ago and it still plays amazing. I think I paid $350 in 1982, with a built in pick up.
      Bought a modern one, cutaway, with built in tuner, preamp etc that was $1200 (I think) new. I bought this to have while the older Tak was getting new frets. I play them both all the time. The newer one has slightly better action but the older on has a much beefier sound (probably because the wood is now more seasoned and is not a cutaway).
      Takamine makes amazing guitars, and I’d take my Taks over any Taylor that I’ve ever played. I prefer the Tak necks better than Taylor necks too.

    • @defmanlistening
      @defmanlistening 3 місяці тому

      I´ve been searching for months now for a new westernguitar. Takamine is on the top list so far and i love japan build guitars:) But doing a lot of research about all the different woods out there, i found a couple of them on the red list. Sapele is one of them coming from the rainforest in west and central africa. It does belong to the mahogany family but it is not real mahogany. Thats why it is cheaper (plus coming from a poor country). Sure, getting a used guitar with red listed wood is fine but for me i would not get a new one. But this just my opinion and everybody is free to buy what ever she or he wants:)

  • @gregoryrupp6097
    @gregoryrupp6097 8 місяців тому +53

    The whole list could be Yamahas

    • @mce3210
      @mce3210 3 місяці тому

      Does you know what else I’d need to buy Mike daws style
      acoustic electric guitar (Yamaha ) and to get similar microphones and pickups INSIDE and anywhere else I’d need to get a similar sound around the entire guitar? Can you please guide me?

  • @ChrisOttoMusic
    @ChrisOttoMusic 8 місяців тому +10

    I picked up an M-120 Guild a couple years ago, and I love it. I went in to the store to look at some Alvarez models, but the Guild blew me away. It's also one of the few instruments I've bought that impressed my wife (she's a tough customer).

    • @jrenaud22
      @jrenaud22 7 місяців тому

      Admittedly, in my 50s, I'm a bit of a guitar store kid. I love to go play just for fun. I tried a $500ish Guild one day and didn't want to put it down.

  • @davidarvisu
    @davidarvisu 8 місяців тому +7

    I have the Alvarez MD70 (rosewood dread) and it is absolutely one of my favourite guitars at the moment!! Basically an HD-28!! Normally I play Lowdens but it's perfect for when I want that American tone!!

  • @practicerepo
    @practicerepo 8 місяців тому +5

    Great advice and choices I think. Somebody mentioned they wanted to see the 1-2 grand range or similar videos I would check out too for sure

  • @gilbertstevenson1494
    @gilbertstevenson1494 7 місяців тому +2

    I have the older MD70CE.
    It is a stellar guitar.
    I mostly buy used. But my best new guitar purchase was from a store that was going out of business, unfortunately. He sold me a brand new Takamine P3DC for under $1k.
    I love that guitar.

  • @ducdanjou7885
    @ducdanjou7885 8 місяців тому +9

    I like seagulls, just because the cedar tops have their own warmth.

  • @LJSterks
    @LJSterks 7 місяців тому +2

    I have the Alvarez MD60BG, opted for the non electronic, mahogany sides and back model. It was $600, it sounds incredible and it’s beautiful. I put a beveled Martin pickguard on it and some bone bridge pins. It’s light, loud, Rings like a bell, and cuts through like a knife. All I ever wanted in a Dread.

  • @karffiol
    @karffiol 8 місяців тому +11

    I got Recording King RD328 for ~700 bucks and I am very impressed. All solid, basically Martin guitar for a fraction of a price, you cannot go wrong with this one. I did some upgrades myself, like install K&K in it, bone bridge pins, slotted the bridge pin holes, better compensation on the saddle, etc. After a month or so of playing this guitar rings like a bell, I can imagine stripping the poly finish and apply some nitro would help even more.

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 5 місяців тому +1

      Steve Earle’s son, Justin Townes Earle played Recorder King almost exclusively. They def make some gems.

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 28 днів тому

      It's a Martin style guitar... But it's got it's own character.... Not saying it's a worse sounding instrument, but why do people also have to say it's basically another guitar.... For one thingi believe that recording king uses forward shifting bracing in their dreads, which Martin switched away from a long time ago.... It's a bit of a different sound. No doubt recording King is a guitar that offers a whole lot of bang for buck.... I hear they need a setup and that the tuners are frustratingly not sensitive enough and could use replacing

  • @FilmFlam
    @FilmFlam 7 місяців тому

    Very informative. Thank you. Liked and subscribed.

  • @lhvent
    @lhvent 8 місяців тому +3

    I love Yamaha and Alvarez Guitars. You can't beat them.

  • @HayesTech
    @HayesTech 5 місяців тому +3

    Recording King also has some very nice, all solid wood, guitars for under $1,000.00 too. I've got the RD-328 and love it. It's designed after the 40's Martin guitar with Adirondacks spruce tops and your choice of either mahogany or rosewood for the back and sides (again, all solid wood). And it has scalloped bracing that's done well. I've made a couple videos on this guitar myself. The deep V shape of the neck took me a bit to get used to but I'm loving it now. It will do just fine until I can afford a Martin HD-28.

  • @paulventura9939
    @paulventura9939 8 місяців тому +3

    Good choices. I happen to own two Taylor’s: the first GS Mini on the market, with Spruce top. It’s better for strumming than my 1980s era Taylor 412ce, which is better for finger style and writing. And I have a Yamaha FG 720S, with a cherry burst top. All are great guitars. Thanks for your reviews.

  • @arkadyromanov7803
    @arkadyromanov7803 8 місяців тому +5

    The LL and the LS 16 are such good value guitars.

  • @timoheinrich8763
    @timoheinrich8763 3 місяці тому +5

    I love my Seagull S6.
    It has actually a Cedar top so I would have loved to hear your opinion on it!
    It's made in Canada from endemic wood and just beautiful

  • @yelgerramirez
    @yelgerramirez 8 місяців тому

    Great video, very good information 👏🏼

  • @blklabsoc75
    @blklabsoc75 8 місяців тому

    I love watching you guys. Your depth and knowledge really helps me as an so so self taught guitar player. I bought an Ibanez performance guitar back in the 90s because that was all I could afford at the time. I mainly played electric but as I’m getting older I find myself playing acoustic more. My father-in-law had a Martin 000d-28. Which sounds awesome but I’ve played Taylor’s at the local shops and feel like I pull toward them more. I see in here you mentioned the Taylor 114. Do you think the 214ce is also a good bang for the buck? I almost bought a Taylor 814ce used for 2700.00 but the wife would have killed me. Anyway love your content and just wondered about your thought about the 214ce. Keep up the awesome content. You are like the Bible for guitar knowledge. 😉

  • @jrich5150
    @jrich5150 7 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic info gentlemen! I would love to see your breakdown of electric guitars under $1,000. There are so many choices out there.

  • @yourtubisfilled7164
    @yourtubisfilled7164 4 місяці тому

    Great video, thank you guys. Hoping you will do more of these. There's a couple of interesting price ranges above 1000 too which I'd love to get your gist on. You could even differentiate in videos between body types or scale length because many people (like myself) are shopping a specific bracket like that.

  • @kdcyyz
    @kdcyyz 8 місяців тому +6

    I love my Yamaha Red Label FS5, but it was a bit over $1K. I tried some Taylor and Martin guitars first, but that Red Label sound got me.

  • @billrea4841
    @billrea4841 8 місяців тому +1

    I saw your breakdown of the Taylor Academy 12e and put it on my list to track, it's a very nice guitar for the money. I was leaning to the Yamaha's you mention here but when the Taylor showed up locally used I pounced, I am very happy with the Taylor.

  • @monday6524
    @monday6524 8 місяців тому +1

    Guys, a nice job on the video. I enjoyed listening to the rational for each choice.

  • @charlesbranch4120
    @charlesbranch4120 2 місяці тому +2

    Wow! I was thing about the Yamaha FS-820/830 when I was looking for my first guitar as pandemic pause 2020 began, and I no longer was driving to school (K-5)in the mornings as volunteer crossing guard and Friday ALP Math help. Instead my first guitar came from a GC used but excellent (advertised as a 12e, so the managers first back to work packed several extras in the box) Taylor Academy 12 (produced on Dad's 90th birthday) for the then-new price of $500. Shortly after, a 12e appeared from a music store clearing out inventory at $360, then a Breedlove Pursuit Exotic Concert E- Sitka/Koa $360 (added a Gator Cases 000 hard case). My first all-solid wood guitar (and last to leave me) was a Cole Clark Angel 2 Redwood/Blackwood ($1834 in summer 2022 from AMS in NJ). I gave a B-stock Breedlove European spruce/mahogany all-solid guitar to my son-in-law, which has a thinner than semi-gloss finish and some small patches where the finish didn't bond to the plastic binding, which sounds incredibly warm and open for $350 via Reverb. A daughter is taking care of the similar B-stock Jeff Bridges signature concert (Reverb and Sweetwater had these at the same price, so I ordered from my Sales Engineer's Associate) at $425, the embroidered gig bag likely accounting for the additional cost. Gloss finish needs to open up to add the warmth of the non-sig version, but they're all good and appreciated. We bought that daughter a Yamaha FG-730S a couple decades ago, but that felt too big for my learning experience, and guitar collecting (ROFL). My SIL asked me last year, "Did you buy any new guitars?" I truthfully replied, "No, I bought a new banjo." (Gold Tone B-stock AC-5 with bag, to which I added an armrest and a set of better tuners for a future install. Better than the low-end Rogue that I was given by 'Johnny Guitar' of KCHU before I retired from Alaska...)

  • @toyotozan
    @toyotozan 8 місяців тому +7

    I would pick Yamaha AC3M over FSX800. All solid wood, great pickup with impulse response simulator and auto feedback suppress on board.

  • @bmac5085
    @bmac5085 5 місяців тому

    I have a Yamaha AC3M like a dark sunburst colour.
    Changed the nut and saddle to bone and got it set up.
    This thing literally belts the sound out, with loads of midrange .
    Around £750 here roughly 1000 usd with a solid wood body. Absolutely love it.

  • @ianshongtrs
    @ianshongtrs 8 місяців тому +4

    I own both Yamaha FG5 and FS3. If you can afford the Japanese build by all means get it. But if the Chinese Red Label is already pushing your budget you are 90% there with the Chinese made Red labels. Perfectly happy to play these two Yamahas for the rest of my life.

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 8 місяців тому

      What would you say are the major differences?

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 8 місяців тому

      your recent comment got shadowbanned bud. Post it again but make sure there is no dots in words and no bad words.

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 15 днів тому

      @@cooloutac
      UA-cam has gone crazy.
      Dots, really.

  • @Astrobluey
    @Astrobluey 8 місяців тому +17

    You didn’t mention the the Yamaha LL16 has solid rosewood back and sides. I’ve just bought one and it is a cannon that blasts out very sweet tones. Super impressed and surprised after always favouring my Gibsons and Martin in the past,the LL16 is currently my acoustic of choice.

    • @cugir321
      @cugir321 8 місяців тому +2

      Have you played it out? It's a nightmare trying to EQ in some bars.

    • @martifingers
      @martifingers 8 місяців тому +1

      @@cugir321 Agreed. I found the built in electronics can be really harsh and brittle but the answer for me was to play it through an acoustic amp (in my case a Marshall). But played acoustically it sounds terrific - the sustain for instance is huge.

    • @maciejpatek2141
      @maciejpatek2141 7 місяців тому +1

      Yamaha LL 16 is well built but ,..it's harshness is annoying :/ Cheaper version L6 sounds the same having solid top only. And that passive pickup is a piece of crap

    • @cugir321
      @cugir321 7 місяців тому

      It's okay...still a little bright when not amplified. I was playing it outside at a bar last night in a jam...unplugged. I use a fishman loud mini....so it is an acoustic amp. I'm still not sure what to do to tame it....the magnetic soundhole setup does some but don't love the tone.@@martifingers

    • @cugir321
      @cugir321 7 місяців тому

      I'm thinking a bass preamp....saw online that they make a difference with the harsh piezios.@@martifingers

  • @alancampbell6670
    @alancampbell6670 8 місяців тому +2

    I've owned the Yamaha FSX830C natural for several years now. Over time I've done a few upgrades: ditched the undersaddle piezo pickup for a K&K pure mini (K&K tech support explained how to connect it to the existing onboard preamp) , installed a Graphtech nut, bone saddle, Stewmac ivoroid bridge pins, and gold Grover tuners. The guitar responds very well to upgrades - they made a huge difference in tone and looks, very happy with this guitar.

    • @mce3210
      @mce3210 3 місяці тому

      Can you send me exactly what you got guitar wise and where to buy it please and Do you know what else I’d need to buy Mike daws style
      acoustic electric guitar (Yamaha ) and to get similar microphones and pickups INSIDE and anywhere else I’d need to get a similar sound around the entire guitar? Can you please guide me?

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 28 днів тому

      I'd really like to know how to ditch a piezo and do that myself! Did it require soldering?

  • @charlesmichels7873
    @charlesmichels7873 8 місяців тому +4

    Great, informative video! I also think the Taylor Academy 20e (walnut) really should be considered at this price point.

  • @josephryan5396
    @josephryan5396 7 місяців тому +11

    Would love to see a best acoustic guitar under $2000 from you guys.

    • @A-rl4or
      @A-rl4or 6 місяців тому

      It will always be used
      I bought a handmade guitar from Canada for under $1900

    • @compucorder64
      @compucorder64 6 місяців тому

      Absolutely, would be great to see their list. And yeah, like someone wrote above, I'd tend to go used once the price goes above $1000. But I think my picks would be similar. At the at the top of the price range, I'd choose a Furch Vintage 1 OM or a used Furch Vintage 2 or Guild D-40. Yamaha FS5 at the bottom of the price range. Guild M-20 in the middle. For me Guild, Furch and Yamaha own that price range. Since Gibson J-45s, really good Martins and Taylors all hang out in the 2-4k+ range. And to be honest, I'm not really sure it's worth paying the premium.

    • @josephryan5396
      @josephryan5396 6 місяців тому +1

      @@compucorder64 Can't disagree with any of that. I own both a FSX5 and Furch Yellow Series.

    • @compucorder64
      @compucorder64 6 місяців тому

      @@josephryan5396That's interesting, how do you find the difference between the FSX5 and the Furch Yellow after spending time at home with them? At the moment, I've played four quite different guitars I really like and trying to decide between them. Guild OM-120, Epi IBG J-45, Furch Blue OM and Yamaha FS3. I tend to like not too much bass, more woodiness, projecting bell-like mids, and a slightly rolled off treble (NOT a fan of the shimmery metallic Taylor sound).

    • @josephryan5396
      @josephryan5396 6 місяців тому

      @@compucorder64 The FSX5 is a little brighter, probably due to the smaller body. It isn’t too bassy and I would say it’s very well balanced. Out of the two, the Yamaha is definitely more traditional sounding, the Furch is more modern sounding. The Furch is a grand auditorium body size, so it is louder, but I would imagine the OM Furch would still be louder than the Yamaha. The Yamaha is sitka/mahogany and the Furch is cedar/rosewood, so both very different sounding. The Yamaha has more mid-range and the Furch more lows and highs. I tried the Furch blue cedar/mahogany in a store before and it is incredible, lovely and warm sounding. The Furch is definitely not metallic like a Taylor, it has a much fuller/resonant sound. The Furch has a LR Baggs Anthem pickup which is one of the best out there, but I was honestly shocked how good the FSX5 atmosfeel pickup sounded, it’s just as good in my opinion.
      The necks are very different on the two. The Furch has a shallower, wider neck. The Yamaha neck is a bit fuller and a perfect width for me. I find the Yamaha has less strain on my fretting hand. You can special order Furch with different nut widths though. The Furch is standard scale (25.5) and the Yamaha is shorter scale (25), so I find the Yamaha is a little easier to play due to the reduced string tension. I think Furch guitars are more gear towards fingerstyle with the wider nut and string spacing, although, you can play anything you want on them. My nephew tried both guitars and he found the Furch easier to play because of the extra spacing.
      It would all come down to personal preference, you would be best off trying out both if you can. If I had to choose one purely based off sound alone, it would be the Furch. I don’t know how they’re not way more expensive, they’re like boutique level guitars at affordable prices. However, for me, I find myself playing the Yamaha more just because the neck is so easy to play. I think both would meet the requirements you listed, you would just have to try both and see which you prefer.

  • @whatwouldhousedo5136
    @whatwouldhousedo5136 7 місяців тому +12

    I tried a ton of guitars in this price range last summer (ended up with a Taylor 214CE Deluxe for a bit more $$) but the one I almost went with was a Seagull. Fantastic guitar with some very cool innovative features and I liked it better than anything else including several Yamahas and Takamines. Seagull is a little-known brand from Quebec that also has Godin and a couple of other names under its umbrella. BTW- Godins are fantastic electrics with one of the best necks I've ever played. Did not like any of the low-end Martins at all. Washburn makes some good guitars in this price range. Agree on Guild- every one I've ever played has been stellar.
    Editing to add that I had actually ordered an Eastman through my local music store, but the shipping kept getting pushed back by several months a couple of times, and it would have been over a year when all was said and done. So I cancelled my order and used the credit. I was really looking forward to the Eastman- not too much info on them around so good to see your opinion of them is high.

    • @skipclone1
      @skipclone1 6 місяців тому

      Yes! I just commented above, I have the S6 flame maple. Superb deal for the money, mine got a thumbs up from a notorious tone snob.

    • @philomelodia
      @philomelodia 4 місяці тому

      You mentioned Seagul. I have been playing a Seagull guitar since about 1996 and it sounds great. Real sweet sound. What’s neat about them is they euse local woods. They use cherry for the back and sides sometimes.

    • @user-xx9gx4vd4i
      @user-xx9gx4vd4i 4 місяці тому

      @@philomelodia I absolutely love mine, it sounds great both acoustically and with the LR Baggs system that came with it. In fact I had another Seagull that I traded for it, with a cedar top. I loved the sound but the string tension was ridiculous, it hurt my fingers to play.

    • @joe19912
      @joe19912 3 місяці тому

      Also went with the Taylor214, first tried an Ibanez off Amazon, but it had a warped fretboard. Obviously try to see the guitar in person, but if not, go with one of the bigger names with a good return policy. My bud has a nice Orangewood, you get a good guitar with nice setup for very low cost.

  • @Tbone1952
    @Tbone1952 8 місяців тому +5

    I own 5 Yamahas 3 red labels, one is original FG180 I bought in Japan. Love my yamahas

    • @mce3210
      @mce3210 3 місяці тому

      Does you know what else I’d need to buy Mike daws style
      acoustic electric guitar (Yamaha ) and to get similar microphones and pickups INSIDE and anywhere else I’d need to get a similar sound around the entire guitar? Can you please guide me?

  • @user-ly2li5wr5d
    @user-ly2li5wr5d 8 місяців тому +5

    I bought a Yamaha LS-TA 1,129 $, solid rosewood back and sides and solid spruce

  • @arthurlove1002
    @arthurlove1002 8 місяців тому +5

    I will never get rid of my 1967 red label. Bought new when I was 12 for 100 dollars that I earned from mowing lawns.

    • @skygoing82
      @skygoing82 День тому

      I wonder what percentage of guitars were bought from money made by junior high school boys who mowed lawns. My first was a Samick Strat.... paid for by cutting the neighbors lawns at 16 to 20 bucks a pop.

  • @gregoaks4413
    @gregoaks4413 5 місяців тому

    Excellent review guys !

  • @mikebarker7626
    @mikebarker7626 8 місяців тому +11

    I bought an Epiphone Hummingbird for $ 300 bucks. This guitar is awesome, great action,great sound and looks great. Very happy with it.

    • @ComeOnPeopleThink
      @ComeOnPeopleThink 2 місяці тому

      that's what i'm looking at..

    • @mikebarker7626
      @mikebarker7626 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ComeOnPeopleThink highly recomended, stays in tune sounds better as it ages. Ive had mine 10 years

    • @ComeOnPeopleThink
      @ComeOnPeopleThink 2 місяці тому +1

      @mikebarker7626 thanks, I had a masterbuilt and really liked it but for some stupid reason I sold it..

    • @mikebarker7626
      @mikebarker7626 2 місяці тому

      @@ComeOnPeopleThink i hate it when that happens..lol

    • @Wilma305
      @Wilma305 18 днів тому +1

      My daughter’s Inspired by Gibson Hummingbird blows me away every time she plays it. It is truly a great option at $850.

  • @neanderthalpunk8186
    @neanderthalpunk8186 8 місяців тому +2

    Another gem that is incredible value is the Simon and Patrick Woodland Pro Folk, well under a thousand, made in Canada and all solid. A great compliment to my Yamaha Ll16D as excels in different ways. What are your thoughts on StewMac kits, just got one but more as a way to learn to build, curious how good the finished project will end up.

  • @johnjlong
    @johnjlong 8 місяців тому +2

    I own and ride a 2008 Yamaha FJR1300A that I bought brand new. they definitely make great motorcycles!

  • @IraDuncan
    @IraDuncan 8 місяців тому

    I'm glad the GS Mini made the list.
    I've had a mahogany top version for 10 years and it just plain works every time I pick it up. I stuck a Fishman Rare Earth in it, threw some smoked nickel Taylor tuners on it, and a graphite saddle.

  • @Luke_735
    @Luke_735 6 місяців тому

    Great content, guys!
    I'd really love to see you go into depth on some of the high end stuff too. If you end up doing a video on those, or if you end up cutting another guitar in half again, may I make a request?
    You did the LL16D and I can definitely see why the LL16 made it to this list. However, apparently the LL26, 36, and 56 (made in Japan) take it quite a few steps further. Apparently, they're handcrafted by a single craftsman and include something like voicing (that they call tap tuning) -- I'm really curious to see just how handcrafted these really are, and how they compare to something a master luthier, such as yourself, would make. Moreover, I'd love to hear how you think they compare to similarly priced options from Breedlove, Taylor, Martin, etc.
    Oooh, a factory tour reaction would be cool too

  • @heiqqmtb6092
    @heiqqmtb6092 8 місяців тому

    I 100% agree with the Yamaha picks, I had a LS6 A.R.E and for the price, it was amazing. Piezo mic, classic looks, a smaller size more suitable for me and so on. Really saddened I had to sell it, but on the upside, I'm building something similar at the moment to replace it based on a Lakewood A32 :)

  • @Stephen-zx4uf
    @Stephen-zx4uf 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for another fun video!
    A few favorite all solid woods that fit this quest:
    Guild m-120 love it!.. guild m-140 is also very nice and one might pick up the pair for near the 1k mark street price
    Guild f-150 impressive clarity, playability, projection with picking, heavy strum, even fingerstyle
    Alaverez Masterworks Elite 70 Folk - surprisingly exceptional experience
    Epiphone inspired by Gibson line: J45, J200, Hummingbird… spent quite a bit of time with these and impressive though haven’t won me over… lots of folks love them.

  • @grog5564
    @grog5564 7 місяців тому +1

    Glad to see the Yamahas in there. I bought a Yamaha, left handed off of Amazon. It is one of my best acoustic guitars and it was $350.00. I have a Martin, I rarely play it. The back of the neck is so rough I could use it as an Emory board to do my nails with. I will never buy another Martin as my guitars are made upon order, I am left handed. The Martin was Made in Mexico, says so on the label. it is a POS that is going to be donated to charity. My Taylors are super guitars. Taylor will make you any guitar in their line left handed at no extra cost. Fine quality, excellent workmanship and they play like a dream. Also made in the USA, says so on the label.

  • @Anonymous99997
    @Anonymous99997 8 місяців тому +1

    I would definitely look at the Orangwood guitars. I just bought a Sage Torrified Spruce Live on sale for around $750. That guise id over $1000 normally. I bought that guitar based on your breakdown video

  • @SeanHassard
    @SeanHassard 6 місяців тому

    New to the channel, loved this vid and the simple guitar hack on improving tone via slotted bridge! Really interested to hear your sub $2000 list!

  • @roycranman3851
    @roycranman3851 8 місяців тому +2

    I have a PRS Angelus SE that is just amazing. They start at $800.

  • @cosmocalypse3708
    @cosmocalypse3708 7 місяців тому +1

    Is a Stewmac kit worth it if you want to see if it's something you want to do, or is that not a legitimate step towards building a custom guitar?

  • @Yamahman
    @Yamahman 8 місяців тому +2

    I have a Yamaha LJ16, I have also owned the LL16, they are fantastic guitars.

  • @eskimo289
    @eskimo289 8 місяців тому +6

    The Breedlove AC25/SR Plus from 2005 (in my opinion) is the best sub $1000 guitar ever made/sold by a major brand. Made in Korea. Solid Sitka top and Indian Rosewood Back. Laminate Rosewood sides (which are a good thing, as you guys know). Sounds AMAZING, very, very playable, and because of the bridge truss they used back then, it will last decades with little to no issues. Fishman pickup system with great features. Both body and fretboard bindings, along with Abalone purfling. Incredibly airy, rich, 3-dimensional tone. A truly gorgeous instrument all around, with a long life span.
    You can still find them all over for $500, and all the ones I've played used sound almost identical. I believe they were built at the Crafter Factory in Korea, which is a high end factory over there. I know this isn't a current production guitar, but to me it's the best I've ever played in this price range. Just for kicks, here's a clip of a guy playing fingerstyle on one -- ua-cam.com/video/iJdECFz16M8/v-deo.html

    • @NOPE.S.P.
      @NOPE.S.P. 7 місяців тому

      I have one of these myself, and I continue to be surprised at how well it sounds compared to other guitars well above its price point. At one point, I did opt to have a bone nut and saddle upgrade which made it even more impressive. I highly recommend finding one of these in good used condition for anyone exploring this price range.

  • @nespstudio8803
    @nespstudio8803 4 місяці тому +1

    Love my Alvarez. Had another one that I bought ten years ago and the top started lifting behind the bridge. Sent it back for repair but they couldn’t fix it so they called me back and said pick out another guitar on us. I forgot they had a lifetime warranty. Good company, great polite people, too. Highly recommend them.

  • @skipclone1
    @skipclone1 6 місяців тому +2

    Seagull. I have the S6 flame maple with the LR Baggs system. Fabulous sound, both plugged in and acoustic.

  • @Gratefulman1965
    @Gratefulman1965 7 місяців тому +1

    I own a 1992 Guild D4NT I paid 399.99 for. It is an amazing acoustic guitar. Crazy how good that guitars tone and feel is.🤔

  • @mikehappy7838
    @mikehappy7838 7 місяців тому

    Recent gift of a Yamaha AC3M gave me an appreciation of the quantity I was ignorant & somewhat biased. Loved my Tailor Martin Eastman acoustics but this Yamaha for the money has em tapping out. Thx for review.

  • @dividedwords
    @dividedwords 8 місяців тому +1

    I'd love to know what you guys make of the Recording King RD-318 or RD-328.

  • @PC85X
    @PC85X 8 місяців тому +1

    Fender PD220e. All solid. Sold my Taylor after buying and using this for a year and not touching the Taylor

  • @TheKruizr
    @TheKruizr 8 місяців тому +1

    I have a Guild acoustic 12 string, love it!

  • @michaelmadsen1222
    @michaelmadsen1222 7 місяців тому +3

    The Martin D-10e is a sweet solid wood guitar for under $1000. I bought one a few years ago and remember comparing it specifically to the GS Mini and it wiped the floor with that Taylor.

    • @aa.mirezZ
      @aa.mirezZ 7 місяців тому

      The gs mini (majority of them) are not all solid wood construction back and sides, so for sure an all solid wood guitar is going to outperform a non all solid wood Acoustic.

    • @michaelmadsen1222
      @michaelmadsen1222 7 місяців тому +1

      @@aa.mirezZ right. I was surprised with how many laminate guitars they mentioned while leaving out the D-10e.

  • @tdc_2021
    @tdc_2021 8 місяців тому

    I have a Yamaha FS5 (so Japanese made instead of Chinese). The sound of this guitar is absolutely incredible - lush and full and beautiful. It's not as fun to play as my other guitars but wow the sound is good.

  • @kygrgu6400
    @kygrgu6400 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi there, love your videos even though I'm not into luthier-ing or wood work because you sound genuine.
    I started my life long dream to learn guitar and music theory 6-months back.
    It'd be appreciable if you can make a video on best full size cutaway acoustic-electric guitars one can buy around $1000 if possible.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @MoneyGrip70
    @MoneyGrip70 8 місяців тому

    I paid $199 for my Takamine tnv-360: Nashville bear claw spruce top w abalone . It was a wwii veterans made in Japan. He passed and I got it at an estate sale. Also my 75' Yamaha f7-335 my goodness it sounds good. Thank you Goodwill

  • @cefdad
    @cefdad 8 місяців тому

    ...big fan of your channel. I bought a "new" Yamaha LLTA last month after watching your breakdown video on the LL16. I assume that they are essentially the same guitar other than the TA system. I got the sunburst and I love it. Thanks for saving me about $500 - I was looking at an Eastman E20OM-TC...also a very nice guitar, but I just didn't want to spend the extra cash. a side note - I own an Eastman E8D-TC, (I feel like you were referring to this guitar when speaking about Eastman's just over $1K price point) it is an exceptional instrument. To your point about good guitar's on the used market - I found a 97ish Yamaha LS-400VT for about $1K and I wouldn't sell it for twice that. Don't pass over solid wood Yamaha's (not just the red labels) - they will likely be hanging on the affordable side of your local guitar store's acoustic room.

  • @Charles53412
    @Charles53412 8 місяців тому

    Vangoa makes a really good 12 string for under $250 and 6 strings for around $150 ! They also come with extras goodies !

  • @LucasHaneman
    @LucasHaneman 4 місяці тому +2

    Long time believer of Yamaha and Eastman in this price range. Love what they’re putting out! Also, yes to the electric list!

  • @steveinthethumb6441
    @steveinthethumb6441 8 місяців тому +3

    I love my 44 year old Yamaha. I almost cried when you cut the LL16 in half. lol

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 8 місяців тому

      Wow that's quite the testimonial.

  • @banba317
    @banba317 7 місяців тому +2

    Breedlove makes some real nice guitars for under a grand.

  • @leeasbury7273
    @leeasbury7273 8 місяців тому +1

    What do you think of the Taylor GT (or 11 series or whatever they call it now)?

  • @jamesrath25
    @jamesrath25 7 місяців тому

    I love my taylor 214 I bought it used with minor stratches. I added the LR Bragg pickup. It sounds amazing. I bought new the Guild F-250ce , just cause I wanted a epiphone ej-200, and I wasn't ready to buy the Gibson sj-200. The Guild has the Jumbo tone I love and does the job. Guild also has amazing pickup on it. I would buy most guitar used with minor scratches Just cause you dont feel back if it bumps the wall.

  • @ShawnGilbert1967
    @ShawnGilbert1967 8 місяців тому

    Im jumping back into playing after a 7 year break for my grandson, i am having a problem i never had before...
    Most of these guitars im lookikg at are 1.69 nut, its not string spacing but these distance from the high E to edge of neck is super crucial or ill unintentionally fat/skin/old man palm/skin fold ( can you tell im frustrated) mute the high E on C-F ect...
    I played a mid to intermediate level Takamine for 13 years unfortunately it was stolen by family at 52, i don't want to adjust grip much any opinions? Can i just measure some of these? Get a copy with the high E inboard more? Get luthier to cut a nut that way? Im leaning towards those gibsons and takamine i had were 1.75 nut?
    Any guidance is appreciated...really enjoy these videos

  • @azariahboling321
    @azariahboling321 8 місяців тому

    The Eastman e2-D is an amazing player with unbelievable tone.

  • @user-fr9om7dm5w
    @user-fr9om7dm5w 2 місяці тому +2

    I’ve owned 2 Yamahas and they sound unbelievable for the money. Great list guys

  • @paulnormandin5267
    @paulnormandin5267 6 місяців тому +21

    It never fails to amaze me that nobody ever picks Seagull. I have a friend who is a professional guitarist, he has 15 or 16 acoustics including a $3000+ Martin. He plays the same guitar I usually do, a Seagull S1 Original. We were shooting the bull between sets one night and I mentioned that he seemed to use the S1 as his "go to" acoustic. He leaned in like he didn't want anyone else to hear and said, "It sounds better than pretty much all of the others, including my Martin." I have heard him play both (and many others) and I have to agree.

    • @KevenNewsome
      @KevenNewsome 6 місяців тому +2

      Seagull guy here. I agree with this.

    • @rhoff7272
      @rhoff7272 5 місяців тому

      I came here looking for this exact comment

    • @Cam-wi3tp
      @Cam-wi3tp 5 місяців тому

      Love my Seagull. Would really like them to do a deep dive on a seagull

    • @francis-olivierbureau9673
      @francis-olivierbureau9673 4 місяці тому +1

      Headstocks….

    • @dietersdawgs
      @dietersdawgs 4 місяці тому

      Americans usually have a lot of built in biases towards Taylors, Gibsons, Martins and Guilds etc. They like the Taylor GS mini, which is overpriced and doesn't sound as good as a parlour guitar. They don't pick anything else because they all drink the koolaid and are basically brainwashed. I have one excellent American made guitar, a 2016 Breedlove Oregon....all my others are Canadian ( I have 19 Godin guitars, including a Seagull in there with some A and L's, an S and P, etc etc. ), Japanese ( three Yamahas ), and Spanish ( two Alhambras ).

  • @rook2759
    @rook2759 4 місяці тому

    Love the Norman Blake reference, he lives just down the road from me. I have one of his 1963 OO16c's. It is such a cool guitar.

  • @wesleyhudson2028
    @wesleyhudson2028 8 місяців тому +1

    All good choices. Spot on concerning the gs-mini Koa

  • @SamplePerspectiveImporta-hq3ip
    @SamplePerspectiveImporta-hq3ip 8 місяців тому +3

    Also, I feel like a boss now for recommending the Taylor 114ce to literally everyone who asks me what they should buy under $1k. I have played a lot of these, and they truly do feel just like playing a $3k-$4k high end Taylor. I play a 714ce as my daily driver, and when I pick up a 114ce it literally feels and plays exactly the same. Whenever I am out guitar shopping, if the store has a 114ce, I always spend a few minutes playing it just to level set and remind myself you don't have to spend $4k to get a nice guitar. You are getting all the playability of a high end Taylor and like 80% of the sound, for like 1/5 the price. Hell, I'm slowly convincing myself to buy a 114ce right now just by typing this.
    The 114ce is truly a guitar someone could buy as a beginner and play for a lifetime. It blows my mind that Taylor can even make such a high quality guitar at such a low price point. To me, it's the gold standard for guitars under $1k.

    • @nathanward3888
      @nathanward3888 8 місяців тому

      I just picked up the new 112ce s. It's unreal. Even the case is worlds better than the gig bag that came with my 214ce a few years ago. At $799 new it is an absolute steal.

    • @SamplePerspectiveImporta-hq3ip
      @SamplePerspectiveImporta-hq3ip 8 місяців тому

      @@nathanward3888 does it come with an aerocase? Honestly I feel that is literally the best case money can buy right now. I have started replacing my hardshells with them. They're just amazing

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 8 місяців тому

      It's definitely a good choice man and I think people are crazy for buying any of these Chinese guitars that have horrible fret jobs , poor intonation and smell like poison and probably won't last 5 years before needing Major Work.. Me personally I go for a Martin dx2e because I'm just all about that bass. But the Tailor's have a way better sounding pickup in my opinion and generally better intonation. Both guitar brands if taken care of probably last 20 years without needing a major setup and besides feeling good on the fingers that's basically what you're paying for.

    • @nathanward3888
      @nathanward3888 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SamplePerspectiveImporta-hq3ip Not an Aero case. It's something between that and the old tan gig bag. This is tan but it has nice rigid foam sides, back and top, and also has a really substantial neck cushion as well.

  • @lucemiserlohn
    @lucemiserlohn 6 місяців тому +2

    For a workhorse / gigging guitar, I'm a big fan of Ibanez' Talman acoustics. They can take a bating, are pretty inexpensive, don't sound too bad and are pretty consistent across the range. Not your home centerpiece, but a decent gigging guitar.

  • @MrRoybob
    @MrRoybob 8 місяців тому +2

    I’m not surprised you guys pulled so many Yamahas. They’re so good

  • @sosugarplumfairy
    @sosugarplumfairy 8 місяців тому

    I own a Guild D120. It's a great guitar. Very good for recording.

  • @watchrob77
    @watchrob77 7 місяців тому +2

    What about the Epiphone J45 you reviewed? It seems like a GREAT guitar in this price

  • @aa.mirezZ
    @aa.mirezZ 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video for sure very informative lol. Loved seeing some Yamaha features but I honestly can’t get behind them yet haha some day maybe lol. I wanted to say that the jab at the gs mini Koa was unexpected haha. I have a mini Koa and I absolutely love it and it’s tone is great. It has become my go to Acoustic in my collection lol.

  • @teladan5
    @teladan5 8 місяців тому +17

    I have a Yamaha LL16, a Red Label FSX5 (the slightly more expensive Japanese cousin of the Chinese FS3, with a pick-up), and a Taylor GS Mini (the version with the lam quilted sapele back and sides). I understand that there are those who wouldn't touch Yamaha, but I have always gone for what sounded the best to me within a certain price range. I thoroughly enjoy playing all of them, but especially love the Red Label, as you mentioned, for the sound. An amazing instrument.

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 28 днів тому +1

      People are idiots about Yamaha.... Great
      Pedigree.... Once you get into their solid wood guitars.... They are world class.... And their hand-built bench stuff is just as good as the custom shop stuff from the big three. Much better bang for buck.

  • @brnt034
    @brnt034 8 місяців тому

    PRS AE50 and AE60 ... excellent workmanship and wood choices!

  • @dennislosa7034
    @dennislosa7034 7 місяців тому

    Great information! I would definitely like to see a similar video for electrics.

  • @jdl2180
    @jdl2180 8 місяців тому

    I wish yall would have done this video a few months ago. What do you think about a Martin 000-15sm?

  • @FiddleSticks800
    @FiddleSticks800 8 місяців тому +4

    Great video guys. I have played some $500 Eastman e2d guitars with phenomenal sound that have cedar tops. Solid top and sides.

    • @sebakrol3433
      @sebakrol3433 8 місяців тому +1

      i own e2om, for that price you can't beat it

    • @Photomac07
      @Photomac07 8 місяців тому +1

      Hear a lot of good things about Eastman but can’t find anyone selling them near me to try out. Breedlove I have been told are great but haven’t had same experience as others I guess.

    • @TWC6724
      @TWC6724 8 місяців тому +1

      I own the E2OM and couldn’t be happier. Great sound

  • @scottdavidson9584
    @scottdavidson9584 7 місяців тому

    Good list. Thx

  • @abeellis4470
    @abeellis4470 7 місяців тому

    Amen! Yamaha and Alvarez Masterworks are the best!!! Thanks for the great video.

  • @WhiteBull_33
    @WhiteBull_33 7 місяців тому

    I have an fg3. It sounds great. It did need a setup. nut was pretty high, changed out the saddle for a graphtec. Ebony pins. Love it.

  • @connorangwin683
    @connorangwin683 3 місяці тому

    I found you guys after you appeared on Rhett's channel. Love your work. Fuunny you mention the Yamaha Red Label, my first guitar is 1968 Yamaha FG-300 that I inherited from my dad. It was his main and only guitar for 20 years before he passed. When you say "cannon" you aren't kidding, it kills it in the low end and though it is fully laminate it is a great guitar. I have a video of an acoustic gig where my buddy is playing a Martin OM, and it completely takes over the mix. It is the only guitar I will never part with. Recently had some maintenance done by a local tech (one fallen brace, bridge plate re-build, full setup and unfreezing the truss rod) and it has new life.

    • @msherer260
      @msherer260 Місяць тому +1

      I bought a Yamaha FG-300 in 1970 while on R&R in Tokyo ($85 American with case), shopping on the Ginza (Godzilla was there in Godzilla Minus One last year). It still plays good after over 50 years it has lasted while past my fingers. Has that darn compensating bridge which I set 50 years ago with the 6 E string above the A string as we played Johnny Cash songs all the time in the Barracks and I used the hell out of the top 4 strings doing the Luther Perking/ Bob Wootton one note at a time thing on an acoustic

  • @red58impala
    @red58impala 8 місяців тому

    Interesting list. I was looking at a Taylor nylon string guitar a few months back for about $750. Hard to beat for the price and it had an arm bevel.
    Yamaha makes some great instruments. I wanted one of their silent guitars but decided against it. I would love to pick up one of their pro level tenor saxophones. I still have my Yamaha alto sax my dad gave me 40 years ago... It needs a good rebuild, just like I do, and it'd be good to go for another 40 years.

  • @jrenaud22
    @jrenaud22 7 місяців тому +3

    I absolutely share your love for Yamaha (my first beginner guitar which I still love to play), crimally under appreciated brand imo. But I would replace that Eastman with a Epiphone IBG Hummingbird. I own one and it is badass. All solid mahogany construction, sounds big and clear, and the neck is so nice to play on. The fit and finish is incredible and its just a stunner to look at. Ive had it over a year and it still is eye candy to me when I look at my guitars.

  • @Gr8FriknApe
    @Gr8FriknApe 4 місяці тому

    W o O w! Nothing like blowing your own horns (careful of neck pain here) (laughing). Great video guys. You gave the shoppers the information they need while looking for that beginner guitar. I settled on the Recording King acoustic-electric 9 series 000 body (white poplar back, rosewood board, and sitka spruce sound box) for my beginner guitar. I got it for 125 bucks (390 dollar retail) from B inventory with fret sprouts, dry fretboard, high string height, loose saddle bone (trough cut too wide) and a small smudge on the underside of the body. I did the research and spent 80 dollars on various luthier tools and did a complete set up. I wedged the saddle, oiled the board, filed and polished the fret ends (35 degrees), tweaked the truss for a lower string height and added some 11 - 46 silk n steel strings. It's been 3 weeks and I am in love with the clear and smooth sound of this guitar. Thanks for giving me the information and confidence I needed to look for that perfect pick.

  • @Woodyt
    @Woodyt 7 місяців тому

    Glad to see eastman on there and they should be. I have a 00 and it's awesome. This was a very good topic. Well done

  • @ratwynd
    @ratwynd 8 місяців тому

    Would almost certainly go for the Yamaha or the Eastman Ovangkol instruments. But the Guild is a high contender as well. I like all mahogany guitars.
    I own an Ovangkol OMC16e and it is my favorite of 10 acoustics, including a D35. The combo of size and warm balanced tone with a beautiful wood and a rare-for-Martin sunburst top makes it happen. A bit over the price range here but used about $1400-1500, less if you find a deal. Also all solid wood made in USA. If this one were lost I would buy another without hesitation or delay.

  • @michaelmarine6593
    @michaelmarine6593 8 місяців тому +4

    Since you guys are with me on Yamaha, might I suggest the AC3M. Solid mahogany back and sides, Solid sitka top with their ARE treatment, electronics, and it's about 1/2" deeper than the FSX830 so you get a bit more lower mids. Yamaha build quality, very classy appointments, all solids, coming in at just under a grand, it's hard to beat.

    • @HaramGuys
      @HaramGuys 9 днів тому

      AC3M sounded a bit too mid boomy to me.
      A3R was my favorite within the lineup. I never thought dreads could have such a transparent and sparkly yet spacey mid/highs

  • @TheBritishPatriot
    @TheBritishPatriot 8 місяців тому +2

    Not gonna lie, Yamaha really do make great guitars once you get over a certain price ($600+), I learnt how to play on one that my teacher lent me and when I had finally saved up enough to buy my own I went with a Taylor 100 series and as much as I love my guitar, I miss the unique, full and rich sound of the Yamaha that I grew accustomed to.
    I think people sleep on Yamaha because it's such a huge brand that makes so much stuff and also almost all of their guitars are built in China, which puts people off, everyone wants American made Martins and Taylors, but seriously for Chinese made, Yamaha's are great sounding and great quality. All solid, torrified wood, with fancy bindings choices and pickups built-in for less than 1k is insane. My only gripe is the ugly pick-guards they put on them.

  • @b.j.taylor9576
    @b.j.taylor9576 4 місяці тому

    This was encouraging to see. I recently played two Yamaha guitars, the Transacoustic model with a cutaway at the $679 price point, and an LL16. Those things just exploded..talk about cannons! I'm now shopping for a Yamaha!

  • @truthray2885
    @truthray2885 7 місяців тому

    In view of the closeness in price of the two non cutaway yamahas, how would you compare the sound of the LL-16 to the FS3? I'm interested in both, but would only buy one. i've been drooling over those red labels for months now.