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00:00:00 Haughty
00:01:30 Make a voice like CDawgVA
00:06:53 Joey got the CEO glasses
00:10:02 Flexing on people with bad eyesight
00:11:07 Using the pinhole technique to see better
00:13:28 How Garnt discovered that he's near-sighted
00:16:04 Joey can't open his eyes under water
00:19:40 Harry's
00:20:47 Dark mode vs light mode
00:38:39 How to explain colors to a blind person
00:41:38 Synesthesia
00:51:56 How is a brain capable of split personalities
00:53:47 Deja vu
00:54:48 Jamais vu
00:55:38 The brain named itself
00:56:17 You are two
00:57:32 Bokksu
00:58:37 We like easy answers
00:59:28 Having the other side of the brain disagree with you
01:02:36 We are clearly not scientists
01:04:13 Are you still you after switching your brain
01:07:14 Why did we evolve to like junk food
01:09:24 Bad evolution
01:13:13 If evolution is to reproduce, why isn't it happening
01:17:53 Who invented philosophy
01:25:04 Our knowledge is very English centric
01:27:10 Arguing more about philosophy
01:29:23 Dolphins are crazy
01:33:29 Dolphins have good branding
01:34:47 ZenMarket
01:35:35 We won't let cute stuff die out
01:37:45 Garnt doesn't want to meet aliens
01:39:07 We still have lizard DNA
01:40:55 The 99% problem
01:42:08 What happens when you become smart
01:44:57 We were the virus all along
01:50:45 What is math
The reason Garnt loves the light is because he doesn’t want to be reminded about the dark timeline
bro
Exactly!
It makes sense. Nobody would want to be remind of that part their life. He has earned his light
Glad this is still going
What is this referencing
I swear this feels like the kind of conversation where the night's gone to 3am, everyone's getting tired but nobody wants to stop talking
and everyone's high on blow except u
So true
looking
your the man?
absolutely i love those nights
I'm taking a degree in philosophy right now, and Joey is making me question why I'm spending 50 grand for this when Aristotle invented thinking
LMFAO
seems like our brain are aligned
And they basically got to the same question Descartes got to. Super interesting
Holy shit the philosophy section made me cringe so bad... I wish I or someone else could just like explain it to them because they were like 100% wrong.
But then maybe this is a good reminder of what most people know and think of philosophy 😭
@@melissabloemen the same thing happened to me when they started talking about evolution and the brain
Connor casually just accurately describing every ancient historical war that happened in a nutshell using Tits magee, Deez nuts empires and Chad Garnt as analogies
And yet they clown on him. I about had an aneurism listening
Yeah, and as the saying goes, “even broken [analog] clocks are right twice a day.” I may not agree on a lot of things Connor says, but on this occasion, the boys are kinda out it.
You can tell he has genuinely good takes on this stuff whenever he takes the topic seriously.
This entire episode is going to be a prime nomination for the "I made it the f**k up" award
Wdym
@@celestien4647 trash taste awards
Ong tho literally almost everything was straight up speculated by them.
I agreed
In the second half of the video I was like wtf are they rambling about.
Molecular biologist here. Hearing you talk about science that you know nothing about was absolutely hilarious.
Yes, during development there is a period where a baby forms a small tail, before it goes away. And yes, Connor, the right side and left side of your head really do have different functions.
Hilarious episode
A lot of the behaviors that we're interested in explaining involve various parts of the brain acting in concert, regardless of hemisphere, though, right?
@@brownbricks6017 as a psychologist student who's been through the study by Sperry on the patients with split brains, I feel somewhat confident in answering this lol. Essentially, yes your mind communicates on both sides, through the nerve they mentioned in the episode (I don't remember it's actual name). There's different parts of the brain, and they each have a localised function kinda, and these can work in tandem so you understand your surroundings. In Sperry's split brain theory, the communication between the parts of the brain can't occur because the corpus callosum (I think that's the name) was separated, when an eye was closed, the parts of the brain couldn't communicate. So some part of the brain could name the item, but couldn't describe it. And the other side of the brain can describe the item but couldn't name it. These things do communicate usually, through having both eyes look at the object or your brain communicating with itself. It's really interesting and I don't think I explained it too well lol.
@@goosevichiwaterdrinkerbagu7525 not a psychology student, but i found out what you're talkng about on a vsauce video
ps. you can find literally anyone on the internet; a molecular biologist, a psychologist, you name it
Bio student.
They did my man Darwin and evolution dirty this ep, funniest thing ive ever seen.
@@oscarpb190 they did kant dirty as well
Can’t believe Connor actually makes most sense this episode I’m gonna foam in the mouth listening to Joey talk lmao
He's the guy who likes his history. Kinda makes sense he's the one who'd make sense.
The guy who said manga is more black than white? That guy?
cOnNoR mAkEs tHe mOsT sEnSe
Literally all the biologists crying at him all over the comment section
@@neku2741 come on, that is a reasonable thing to say, and varies from manga to manga
edit: okay I looked at some manga pages and no, at most it's 50% white 50% black but most of the time a page is more white than black so it simply was a shit take
They all talk out of their ass about topics they know nothing about. They're entertainers.
33:36 Connor: "I saw the light and i didn't like it, so i went to the dark"
The dark timeline has expanded.
Dark Connor and Light Garnt. Their battle was legendary.
Like something Captain Price would say
I feel like this Episode is going to win a shit ton of awards on the Trash Taste Awards Episode this Season.
I'd call it the "Sigma Tangent-isode".
As it should!
The "longest fucking tangent" Award
Maybe about 15 awards
Mainly "I made it the fuck up" award
Joey with Glasses = Haughty CEO
Garnt with glasses = Cute dad vibes
Connor with glasses = Super refined Engineer
Connor with no glases = Haughty CdawgVA
I did not expect them to look so good
Connor with glasses : no longer a Monke
@@Lunafeir We ugly tho
My first thought of Connor with glasses after he called Garnt thai Harry Potter was that Connor looked like Goyle wearing the Potter glasses
I burst out laughing when they started talking about jamais vous because joey has brought it up in a past episode and no one remembers it
No they didn't
Nice argument Senator, why don't you back it up with a source?
@@cyrer6756 Bro's having Deja Vous while talking about Jamais Vous lmao.
Its in one of the early after dark eps i think
As someone who's binging TT i can confidently assure you that he did mention that.Moreover, i don't remember the episode but i think Joey asked about Je ma vous or something right after when they were discussing about a new word that describes a bunch of islands
its crazy how connor is capable of saying both smart statements and idiotic statements within seconds of each other
The scale must balance
it’s cute how garnt is wearing half of connors shirt and half of joeys
Actually true XD
while sitting in the middle
his left side of the brain picked a black shirt and the right side picked a pink shirt
@@gondola1637 let me put on my glasses 🤓ACKHTCHUALLY the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body and vice versa. so his right side picked black and his left picked pink.
It has been observed that Garnt loves sharing brain cells...
I remember when my little sister first put on glasses she said "you're supposed to be able to see the leafs on trees?"😂 It was the cutest thing ever.
Hahaha I was the same as your sis dude, I didn’t know
Guilty here too..
Leaves is always what I tell people about when the Convo of when I first started wearing glasses comes up
@@manishsigdel824 i noticed was how many people have acne that i thought had flawless skin lol.
I cried the first time I try scleral contact lenses(ps sadly glasses don't work for me) the world looked sooo much more beautiful it was insane.
Sameeeeee, I remember repeatedly putting on and off my glasses and seeing leafs so clearly that I did it for a solid 10 minutes strait because my brain was to busy processing on how I was missing this my entire life and being mind blown that people can acually see like this ever ay.
As a physics-math major, Connor is the one making most sense in the last bit. That is actually a really good way of explaining "why is a X constant associated with Y number".
As an IT student I agree
55:03 A perfect example of Jamais vu would be Garnt meeting Felix for the first time.
oh shit lol
As a psychology student, watching the bois talk about the brain made me both a proud and dissapointed father.
All at the same time hahaha
can you tell me what they got wrong?
Psychologist here, would love if a neurologist or psychiatrist can confirm these. Honestly, Connor was on point about dissociative identities (what they called split personality, we don't use that term anymore) being a result of trauma response. It is considered as one of the most significant factors. As far as removing one half of the brain is concerned, it's only performed in childhood and is a rare procedure used to treat Epilepsies. The brain then reorganizes itself as the child grows up. The left-right hemisphere argument is not that simple too. While some mental processes are localized in the left or right hemisphere, there is no evidence to one side being more dominant than the other in different people. Basically, they weren't completely talking out of their respective asses.
@Wild Atlantic Caught Salmon I was actually talking about the 'are you left-brained or right-brained' concept that's found it's way into pop culture. Brain lateralization exists but dominance doesn't vary much from person to person.
I'm also a psychology student myself, but bois talking about brain functions got my brain overloaded.
This episode is like my last three brain cells talking before I go to sleep.
Isn't that almost every episode
@@lili-oy1xf yea but this one is at like joe rogan level of ass talking
edit: 1:16:20 lmao
True
@@lili-oy1xf then they talk about anime and music and general entertainment which they are quite knowledgeable about and art is subjective in general, so it inaccuracies and other slander doesn't nearly hit as hard imo
I love how this whole conversation went from “haughty” to shower thoughts. Remarkable
As a "philosophist" student (which ironically sounds like a mesh between philosopher and sophist and Aristotle was actually very anti sophist even though he could be considered one,) pretty much this whole episode brought me pain but especially the philosophy part holy fuck...
Aristotle was certainly not the first philosopher nor did he invent thought. If anything Aristotle came like 300 years after who we think of as the first Greek philsopher, namely Thales. Aristotle was also the student of Plato who was the student of Socrates and all 3 have had a huge impact on Western philosophy and Western thought in general (think of concepts like the soul and life after death in Christianity). I think Aristotle's theory on intellectual thought would be that before we just didn't really have time to think, being able to philosophise especially as your occupation is a privilege. I mean most Greek philosophers were people who were well off, because although in many Greek poleis all free men received education in their youth, to become an academic and get a higher education you needed money to pay for classes (and also not starve).
On Connor's theory, whilst some conquerors did burn books etc. it wasn't like an universal thing and the reason we have less sources of some societies is because some really did write down more than others or in ways that are easier for us to interpret now. We have lost so many sources and books from amazing thinkers and things that would give us much more insight into the past. In fact, all of Aristotle's surviving works are lecture notes by him or his students or other types of notes whilst all of his published books have been lost forever.
Anyway, in general I wouldn't say people never thought about their life before that but everyday philosophising and thinking about life and existence is not the same as academical philosophy.
Furthermore, philosophy and religion aren't all that similar! Surely you do have some religious philosophers, though it's arguable how philosophical they are, but religion depends on faith and blind belief. Even arguments for God presuppose the belief of God whilst philosophy is all about having good arguments and finding the truth through reason.
One last thing, heck yeah philosophy is important, as Garnt said it's literally shaped the way we think about things now and is also the origin of all intellectual inquiry and thus science!
Wow.. How tf does your comment only have 20 likes and no comments. Kind if a shame. I was exactly looking for a comment like yours when I finished listening to the episode. Big thank you for your insight on the topic.
While I'm not an expert by any means, I studied history for a while and took a few philosophy classes (one was specifically on Plato and Socrates) and I found it extremely fascinating.
Now watching the boys throw these statements and theories about philosophy around was quite funny.
So thales was the first one to say "but why tho"
I aint readin allat 💯
No one asked tbh
Bruhhh thank youu😂😂😂 I'm not a philosophy major but I have taken classes in philosophy ( and honestly going through a Greek educational system like 😂😂 kinda hard to avoid philosophy) so I get what u are saying 😂😂😂
garnt being a light mode user makes so much sense omg
Such a boomer
@@royalfun1031 Grant is one of the most boomer sounding names out there
@@nanashi7779 Granted he has valid reasons for that
I was also a light mode user until I went to the dark side somewhat recently
No wonder his eyes are disintegrating
Local synesthesia person here: I see colors when I hear voices (or some kinds of instruments, like when someone plays the saw), and I legitimately cannot describe it. Essentially a color just plasters itself on the walls of my brain when someone speaks- like, if I tell you to imagine the color red, you can picture it in your mind right? It’s just kinda like that, but involuntary. Also, if you’re wondering: Grant is dark, golden yellow, Joey is electric blue, and Connor is a walnut-y tan. Yuh
was looking for a comment like this, thank you so much for this insight 🙏
thanks for the comment
IDK IF I HAVE SYNESTHESIA BUT I WAS THINKING AB HOW GARNT JOEY AND CONNOR ARE THOSE EXACT COLOURS BEFORE I READ THIS COMMET
This episode was basically just, first lesson of every subject in high school. And then talking about it at the pub afterwards. Atleast many of my friends sounded like that. And I probably did too.
They almost have the basic understanding, but not quite and then they throw themselves in the deep end and try to explain things from there.
The boys really took a good whiff out of the bong for this episode
Even though weed is illegal in Japan. This is them natural
@@HouseMDaddict CBD is legal in Japan now but it just makes you chill
@@kazuo398 yeah but CBD doesn't get you high. Only thc does that. What I meant is legit weed is illegal so they wouldn't be high in Japan.
@@HouseMDaddict lol so is in brazil and I am stoned af right now 🤣
A real bong hit transplant
As a psychology student, as well as philosophy student, this was interesting but it also hurts my whole being
Welcome friend it hurts every time
Team Chef
Same
I'm an engineer i think it hurts me more because two of them have engineering degree
@@oldcowbb yeah but at least SOMETIMES they can have a proper take. The amount of clown makeup they use for food takes hurts my soul .
They did say shower thoughts
The bois actually experienced Jamai vu while talking about it, as they had the conversation about it before this, but they didn’t think they had.
the irony lol
As a history buff myself this episode gave me an agonizing suffering
As a historian who is only at 48:56 Im already afraid
Garnt when waking up:
*/turns on his phone
*/gets flashbang
Garnt: *Ah, what a lovely beautiful bright light.*
Connor using a real flashbang to wake up garnt and yelling "this is what waking up in light mode is to normal people garnt !" is an image that will stay in my mind
You would wake up more easily if you endured the pain wouldn't you?like when you have 3-4 hrs of sleep without that eye pain you will usually be tempted to sleep a little longer when going to work or school and get late and punished for being tardy
@@meh6513 nah just get up or set alarm 1 hour early and get more slwep
what a beautiful duwang
Gotta love when the episode continues well past the patreon credits
I wish I was part of this episode. As someone who studies psychology and philosphy, I loved every question and answer you guys came up with. With huge or very little competance on these different subjects, it`s always fun to hear how people react and talk about these type of stuff. I`m hopefully visiting Japan this march and I really hope I meet one of you guys by accident so I can just say how great the podcast is, specially this episode!
Btw- the understanding of human behaviour and mind have always been a topic throughout history. Plato was the first one to mention how humans have a soul and that is the essence of a person being and behavior. The soul have many functions according to Plato, but he also describes it as the human`s psyche basically. Psychology finally became a field on its own after science became the acceptable method of studying the psyche as we know of today. Slay.
I have synesthesia so I’m going to explain how it is for me:
I associate colours with different people and objects. For example: Connor is purple, Garnt is green, Joey is orange, the number 20 is orange, South Korea is pink, the month of June is yellow and the year 2004 is blue. I don’t really know why anything gets their colour, it just pops into my head when I think of it. I’m sure I could spot patterns if I made a list of everything and it’s colour but the only 2 patterns I’m aware of is that orange and green are the most popular colours and pink, white and black are the rarest colours
When it comes to how I actually visualise these colours, it depends on what I’m associating the colours with.
For people and tangible objects: I imagine the colour as an aura around that person or object.
For intangible objects or concepts: I imagine that thing being made out of the colour. As a few examples: when thinking of the number 7 I imagine the number being written in red, time is a white mist, gravity is a purple neon-like glow, the sound of a violin is a brown line, death is a grey duvet and hunger is an orange ball in your stomach
Something else I want to point out, I don’t actually “see” these things with my eyes. It’s more like whenever I mentally visualise something, it just comes surrounded with their colour. For an example: when I imagine Connor I see him floating in a purple void
Thank you for sharing! It is nice to hear from people who know what they are talking about. Lol
That's so intetesting. Thank you
oh damn yeah i get this! I tried explaining to a friend once why he was yellow and the best thing i could come up with was "idk you just do very yellow things"
i dont see the colours either like through my eyes, its more like a cloud of meaning when i hear a sound or idea?
That’s interesting, I’ve always visualized colors with people like the “aura” you described (I’ll see or sense it around them), but I don’t think it’s synesthesia. I’ve always thought my mind was connecting a person’s energy and personality with colors that match. Same with words or objects. If it’s coming from my mind, I think it’s just my creative perspective coming into play. It doesn’t happen 24/7 just when I want to visualize it.
@@erika8349 same here, but only for numbers!
Hey as a historian I would like to share some of my thoughts regarding the issues brought up in the video! Also I am always glad to hear Connor talk about history in episodes its always very fun!
First of all Aristotle or Socrates are quite famous but many others were notable too,coming before them. They belong to different schools of thought and have different specilizations. (Adding a small detail as we are talking about sources Socrates never wrote any of his speeches down. The actual source we have is from Plato who was his student, so when we apply theories to Socrates some of it is Plato's actual thoughts. )
As for sources and how they are preserved :
Connor's point about respecting the culture before them really applies to the change from the Hellenistic Period/Kingdoms (Alexander the Great conquering all those places) to the Roman Empire. The Romans were very much inspired by the Ancient Greeks in various ways such as theater, philosophy, rhetorics, art and religion.
As for the sources themselves , some books might have been in circulation more, we might have stuff because kids used to have to write it down for their homework for generations.
Other times rich people asked their copywriters to save a specific book of an author because they enjoyed their work. In medieval times scriptoria existed doing just that, copying down ancient greek or roman sources in monasteries.
Also most of the time we don't have a whole work of an ancient greek writer e.g. There are several times we just have fragmemts of the source because another author just cites them. That can be seen in the famous classical greek tragic writers like Euripides, we have just few of his works and sometimes his play didn't even win but we don't have the ones that won.
As for the fall of the Roman Empire and how stuff has been preserved. Well we are still missing ton of it but, the Roman Empire was split into two. The West and the East. When the 'barbarians' such as germanic tribes or the Hunns, took over Rome (which happened a bunch of times) it wasn't just this part of the Empire that preserved stuff. The Eastern Roman Empire so the Byzantines as they were called later still kept going and greek was also the main language at that side of the Empire because it had spread during the period Alexander the Great was just going to places and establishing his empire.
Likewise when the Byzantine Empire fell in 1453 to the Ottomans, many philosophers or knowledgable and established people of that time fled to Italy.
So how sources are preserved? There is either tons of it, someone tends to want them to be around, authors cite and include part of older sources in their own work stuff is copied down.
Also I have talked about the Greeks/Romans alot because it my expertise but in the Arabic world, there were also several translations of ancient sources that were passed down.
Also!! The materials used to record stuff in is very important on how its going to be preserved from papyrus to parchement to rocks to paper. Papyrus for example can only be preserved in very specific climatic conditions.
That is just some info I wanted to share :] its not too detailed but it has some pretty important bits. Once again my focus is on the general mediterranean area so that is analyzed more here! :)
Thank you guys for another lovely episode appreciate all you do!
Neat
Thank you for writing this out. I was going insane hearing Joey talk in the 2nd half of the episode.
Thank you so much for sharing some lights, I was having the same doubt so let me say it again Thank you so much!
Good post! And adding to your last point, human beings have been weird, creative, introspective apes forever. All civilizations have had some form of thinking about the world, usually codified into their religion though not always. But as Connor mentioned, peoples from the middle east, from all over Asia, from all over Africa, from the numerous indigenous groups have passed down traditions of thinking and asking questions and patterned understandings about the world. Much of it was preserved orally, and that requires a lot of concerted effort to maintain that across hundreds of generations. Unfortunately, the Western powers that shaped what would become our framework for modern academia often devalued oral traditions and that's just one thing that's led us to a point where we have a Euro-centric bias in our education against learning about these other traditions. Even in an era of mass globalization! But the traditions do exist and have many illuminating things to tell us about the human experience. I mean, hell, there are tons of ideas that have been discovered or invented simultaneously in different parts of the world!
As a funny aside, most Intro to Philosophy courses will have a section on "the Pre-Socratics" too, which makes Joey's rant quite funny even in the context of the Greeks.
Gracias papi
Never thought we get a Trash Taste philosophy ep but it also now feels like it was inevitable. Almost none of it was right or even sensible but all of it was hilarious. Thank you.
I have never felt like I needed smoke breaks throughout an episode, until this one.
As a biologist this episode was a tough one boys 🥲
Historian here... Yeahhh
Mol bio PhD reporting in. I feel bad for the neuro and evolutionary biologists
I feel like their understanding very much mirrors the common understanding of evolutionary mechanisms, right?
They're really brave for putting such misinformed takes out there, I'll give them that lol
It really is like a casual conversation between mates, only uploaded for the world to see
@@destituteanddecadent9106 thats one reason why i love watching the bois shoot the shit
Congrats on Episode 123! I look forward to ep 1234!
This comment is gonna blow (me 🤨)
Damn, that's about three years from now. Would the bois still be together doing Trash Taste by then?
More like 20 years
@@Zoro-if3zy 🤨
@@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266 12345
This really makes me want to see Trash Taste with a historian guest
This episode was painful to watch xD Also how has no one in the comment section mentioned that Socrates never wrote anything down so all our knowledge about the guy was because Plato thought his shit was interesting enough to write it down? I'd love to see the boys discuss how Socrates was essentially a Plato OC 😂 Also, the answer to becoming smart and not being an asshole is a mix of self-awareness, humility, and empathy. One could summarize it to be someone who has both IQ and EQ.
As a history nerd, watching this episode made me feel pain
Literally ;-;
As a science nerd, I concur
When joey said that neanderthals were the precursor to humans i felt that
when Joey said "aristotle invented thinking" i felt that
As a nerd who passed middle school, I can relate.
Joey wearing glasses without needing to is haughty haha
As one of my favorite teachers in university once said “you’re not your brain, you’re in your brain” and I feel like that applies to the whole synesthesia/deja-vu/colors/DID talk, we always think we’re driving this machine but we’re just in this machine, half of the time our brain is just making things up
As someone who loves philosophy and talking about dumb shower thoughts with friends, this is officially my favourite episode. Never laughed so much from one video before.
true, I laughed a lot lmao
As a synesthite, the synesthesia conversation brought much joy! It's literally just two senses being crossed, and hundreds of types exist. Some ARE associations, but others are a physical manifestation of the trigger. For example:I can smell color, though not every color. I can also taste or smell certain words when they're spoken, spelled, or heard
are you gay?
Wait can you smell a color you havent seen?
Thanks for explaining, my question is if your comfortable saying, does it have any adverse effect on your quality of life
When u hear, see feel or taste something because of the condition,is that sensation like when you stand up to fast and everything goes black and you can’t sense anything but at the same time you can? Cus when it happens to me I’m aware of everything i feel and see and everything and it’s there but at the same time I cant see it.
That's what I thought. When Connor said coffee reminds him of the color brown, it's an association because he has seen coffee is brown. However to a synesthite "coffee" can sound blue, even though they know it is seen as brown.
Joey talking about Aristotle as the first philosopher is killing me
The first person to THINK lol
ancient egyptians seething
india and china just didn't exist
lol just wanna get a word in for connar about the two sides of the brain thing since I studied this in psychology - first of all, the main reason for disconnecting both sides of the brain through surgery is epilepsy, because epilepsy is caused by the brain firing messed of signals in a somewhat out of control manner and for some types of epilepsy severing the connections between both sides basically cures them completely, and there are almost no real world effects of this. the reason there's almost no real world effect is because while each side of the brain can't communicate anymore generally speaking they will normally receive pretty much the same information, and people who have had this operation basically cannot tell a difference besides not having epilepsy anymore.
however, the scientists who came up with this ran a series of very clever and very simple little experiments to better understand how the brain functioned and if some functions were isolated to individual sides of the brain (because they already knew there were two sides with a few major connections between them as they had just chopped those connections in half). there's a lot of interesting stuff to do with these you can read up on but some of these experiments involve stuff like showing a word to only one eye and asking participants to draw it (as we know that the eyes are connected to only one side of the brain each, but normally the two sides can communicate for information processing). the participants found that when the word was shown to the right side of their brain (which is the left eye because the body is weird and annoying like that), they could not say the word for what it was. but they found that they could draw the object with the left hand (controlled by the right side of the brain because humans). however, when this object was shown to the left eye, they could easily identify it and say what it was, but they were unable to draw it. this and experiments like it are what has led to a consensus that a lot of general processes in the brain are actually isolated to one side, for example the language and word processing part of our brain is found on the left side and the image and visualisation part on the right side.
As a fellow psych student, thank you very much! Very well written explanation of it all
It’s been such a big thing in my life so I’ve never felt an “Um, Actually-“ more in my life! But not everyone studies neurology, so it’s totally understandable
this was by far one of my top fav trash taste episodes, it was soo entertaining, my mind was blown, especially at the 99% disposition between us and aliens, mind blown
Optometrist here :D
Pinhole works as it reduces unwanted rays of light entering the eyes that would otherwise cause blurry vision. This is why we naturally squint when we cannot see well. We also use a pinhole test to give a rough estimate on how well someone's vision can be corrected with glasses/contact lenses, or even surgery (laser, cataracts, etc).
This episode is like if my brain split into three different personalities and had a debate with each other during an existential crisis.
Joey: 1:03:29
Some random dude on the internet: is this a challenge?
Actually I first learned about synesthesia when I watched the anime "Terror in Resonance " because one of the main characters, Twelve, has synesthesia! He said Lisa's (another one of the main characters) voice "has yellow" and that voice color was very rare, and when he said that, I got so curious I looked it up and I was so surprised when I found out it was a real condition! The Human brain is something else ❤
im suprised it wasnt brought up as they have mentioned the show elsewhere
As a paleontology nerd this shit broke my soul
A girl in one of my art class in college had synesthesia and she said it’s a condition people glorify but in her case it gets very intrusive in her daily life
I have it, for me it ties pain to a pitch and colour, a yellow pain is high pitch and a blue pain is like a bass sort of pitch. I only get this when I feel pain though, and not the other way around which makes no sense.
I can imagine it getting very annoying if you're in art especially. Personally I have it a little bit with letters, and as a result words tend to have a color too, but a lot of letters are some shade of orange/brown, and whenever I mention I have mild synesthesia the first question is always "What color is my name?" and very often the answer is some shade of brown, which isn't what people want to hear most of the time
One advantage I feel is that you end up with a really good memory. You kind of have to when it's really difficult to explain specifically how you remember certain things. I think everyone has a preferred way to memorize things, but synesthesia does get glorified. In reality it's like, "...it's the warm-colored pointy thing to the top-right of your periphery. And it's specifically this big."
Edit: I guess if Connor reads this thread. It’s not as if WHAM! huge shapes block your vision when you hear music.
But for example, if I listen to an old nostalgic song I’ll visualize the same things. Likewise sometimes seeing those shapes remind me of the song. So, it’s kind of just an attribute that you tie to something. It can be as specific as the visualization being different if it’s a recorded sound versus in-person.
@@darkdude1996ify Gonna be honest, I was like that with the few color blind people I talked with.
"Does everything look black and white in your perspective? Isn't that gloomy?"
"No, I can see some colors, just not (insert one or two colors)"
It’s often talked about in relation to music and associating pitch with colours, usually because it’s easier to understand than other senses, so it’s often seen as some sort of creative gift or ability rather than a neurological condition.
The Synesthesia thing, I experience it with touch. Not universal but there are sensory stimuli that feel like textures or bodily sensations, especially sounds and visuals that bring up textures. A few examples:
Light green/teal things feel like mosaics
Red feels like a thick liquid
Brown/terracota/ocre colors are like gripping a porous hard substance
Yellow is like crunching a piece of toast
Certain shrill sounds are like an intense aggressive itch on the inside of my lower gums
Some very bassy sounds are like a piece of hard material pushing from the inside of my ribcage, expanding
The taste of coffee feels like a divider down the middle of my head
Certain deep blues feel sponge like in the palm of my hand and the bottom of my feet
There are some very specific shades of yellow that make me itch on the inside of my elbows
Greys feel like glass
Just a quick note: It is not consistent in frequency and intensity and surely there are some that I cannot recall rn (it’s really late in the night so there may be some mistakes in writing, apologies in advance) but the sensations are consistent across different forms of similar stimuli, and they can get really intrusive if too strong. When shit hits the fan dark colored/dimly lit and silent environments are bliss. And yes, I’m on the spectrum
Thank you for sharing this!
Thank you for typing all this it is really interesting!
Interesting!!
trippy
So if you have your eyes closed can you feel the color near by?
The pinhole is actually a concept from a test called "The Pinhole aperture". It's used pretty frequently over here to detect if your eye defect is refractive error or is organic.
Best episode in a while, plays out like a drunken conversation late at night with the mates
Funny how Garnt is dissing dark themes while wearing a dark theme shirt and Connor is dissing light themes while wearing a light theme shirt.
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or because connor is white, and garnt is darker skinned
@@IWantToStayAtYourHouse how the fuck is he dark skinned? Definitely ain’t white but he ain’t anywhere near dark skinned.
@@doctorfortcraft6140darker skinned*
@h touch grass
Gotta say, Connor might be the youngest, but his takes in this episode really show that he really knows his shit. For example, the counterpoints to Joey calling Socrates the inventor of philosophy he came up on the spot with were really good and well explained aswell
what's funny is in a lot of cases he doesn't know shit 😂 he had a lot of good arguments though lol
I thought your comment was really interesting and I guess I could say it struck a chord with me so I've decided to contribute with my two cents, here it is:
Yeah, I agree that Connor is a good counterpoint presenter. Like he said himself he likes playing the devil's advocate and I think that he is naturally really good at it, at fact checking people I mean. Personally, I wouldn't say he did any better than Joey or Garnt in terms of argumentation though.
The way I see it, if that was the case he wouldn't have to do his fact checks so often to begin with because I feel like a lot of those only came from miscommunication or misunderstanding from both parts. While Connor is like a great filter, (yeah, that's how I'm gonna call him lol) meaning all the takes are to be taken apart and analysed for any bullshit in them, Joey is best at coming up with creative takes and ideas. I feel like if it was like those edits where it's 'Trash Taste but it's only Connor' the arguments would just become stale for lack of new and creative additions to the conversation or not go anywhere because everything would be met with a wall of nothing but disbelief. On the other side, while joey is great at coming up with new takes and generating good discussions if it was 'Trash Taste but it's only Joey' the conversation would just be a bunch of ideas that albeit interesting, ended up just being silly, unfounded takes that haven't been helped out of their infant cocoons and properly flashed out.
I said before that a lot of Connor's counterpoints only happened because of miscommunication or misunderstandings. The reason I think that's the case is because, in my perception, Joey wasn't necessarily wrong with his takes, he was just, in a sense, too dumb to think through them and then explain them properly and Connor was, in a sense, also too dumb to notice the root of Joey's idea and what he was actually trying to say and, because of that, fixated purely on the badly thought out words that came out of Joey's mouth, creating a disagreement that wouldn't necessarily have had to exist, which withheld the flow of the conversation that could've flowed better and developed more otherwise.
That's just what I thought of if though, based on your comment. Feel free to disagree with me, I'm not gonna snap at you, I'm not a salty UA-cam replier.
@@Martoth0 nah fam i totally agree, not a single one of them is better than the other and they're all entertaining as hell, just saying their actual info and evidence wasn't always always accurate; but they can make a great argument out of anything and we love to see it lol
@@bloxxybaddie They are confident despite them being completely wrong on most stuff. They'll make great politicians.
I think more so the right attitude about it.
For the synesthesia bit I want to say as someone with it it's more like an image in your head. For example, when someone tells you to close your eyes and imagine a scene, you could see that "image" with your eyes closed or open. You can acknowledge that it's there, but it doesn't block your vision or if it's audio play in your ear louder than whatever is physically around you.
These guys are just me, my brain cells, and my bestfriend all having a conversation that never stops branching out like a huge tree.
A tree that never stops growing and i love it
The closest thing I can imagine to synesthesia is the scene in Ratatouille at the start where he is eating and random colored shapes pop up as he is explaining the food
lmfaoo yes
Yeah not far from it lol
I feel like this was the first episode where Garnt has been the one in the middle while Connor and Joey argue. Also I feel like this episode has had the most clown takes.
To enlighten you, I have synesthesia. Basically, to better describe what Joey was saying by “you see those colors”, it isn’t something you have to think about. Those colors just mindlessly appear in your head whenever you think of that concept in particular, and those colors are the same every time. One concept I don’t think they touched upon is being able to visualize exceedingly abstract concepts. This is just in my case, but whenever I think of numbers to add or subtract, I always envision them being on some kind of plane, and being in a certain area, which isn’t a straight line. It definitely gets weird when I think too hard about it, cos then I realize that it’s not something I’d ever be able to draw or describe to someone else, but synesthesia can touch upon more abstract concepts like this that may be hard to describe to someone without synesthesia.
Edit: also, to further explain what Joey meant, synesthesia doesn’t cause things to actually appear in your vision. Like, I obviously know that I’m not seeing these things physically, but I still see them in front of my eyes, thanks to my mind imagining them.
54:13 I somewhere read that Dejavu is caused by your brains "writing" & "reading" functions firing at the same time. It is storing what you experience for memory but at the same time reading that memory it is creating. So you remember the moment while experiencing it.
Joey: Aristotle invented philosophy.
Plato: hold my thoughts.
*socrates enters*
Socrates: hold my poison.
Joey: There's no one who invented philosophy before Socrates
*a wild sun tzu appears*
Suntzu: hold my art of war
*Laozi strolls by*
Laozi: hold my tao te ching
"Yes Yeat." They said in unison
Socrates enter, people think he invented philosophy and Thales cries lol
@@FentFwbtFebt Juice WRLD: "Nah all girls are the same!"
Tbh Socrates is attributed as the father of the modern western philosophy and thinking. Even in Greece there was Thales but his line of thinking and philosophy values where vastly different to those of Socrates.
Basically the first time the foundations of modern western (I dont if Laozi had those but Sun Tzu didnt) philosophy where first appeared by Plato aka Socrates
@@philippegosselin7756 Mesopotemians and the Fertile Crescent: Am I a joke to you?
(Thales is said to have studied philosophy in Mesopotamia)
So the Ship of Theseus iirc goes a little like this: Theseus is the captain of a ship and he is very meticulous with maintenance. When a plank of his ship shows wear and distress, he replaces the plank. When the mast bends and warps, he replaces the mast. When the sail gets torn beyond mending, he replaces the sail. Eventually the entirety of the ship is replaced. On the pier, there is an enthusiastic and obsessive curator of all things Theseus, and he assembles the ship piece by piece for his collection. A few years go by, and Theseus decides having a wooden ship is too much effort, so he goes out and buys a fibreglass ship with a copper bottom. So the question is: which ship is the real Ship of Theseus? Is it the original one, laden with memories of Theseus? Is it the one that Theseus built himself? Or is mere ownership enough to make it the Ship of Theseus?
may i know the time stamp for this one?
@@wahyujayadi4264 around 1:04:10 CDawgVA starts talking it. Sort of. It takes a minute before he looks it up
@@rogerbaker9353 "cdawgva"
I got flashback to distractable podcast
The best shower thought is that the brain not only named itself but it then called itself the "most important organ"
When it in fact only did when medical science was advanced enough. The Egyptians thought the brain was useless, and threw it away while washing the skull for mummification.
@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 that's hilarious, I'm not going to double check this though
I really love this episode for all the topics and intresting conversation and THOUGHTS .
Garnt: *puts on glasses*
Connor: "You look like Thai Harry Potter"
Also Connor: *puts on glasses and looks like actual Harry Potter*
Everyone be lookin like Harry Potter except Joey
@@Kugathalord22 every british person is harry potter
Funny because they had Harry Potter on episode 109 of the podcast
This episode was like a reminder of how fun trash taste can be
for me its every episode
or infuritating if you know the answers
So true man. Not gonna lie episodes like these are why this podcast is my favourite.
@@ciemnyi3713 nah man those guest eps were mostly boring af other than the nilered one and some others
@@HeroicGoose depends on if you're interested in the guest themselves. I liked the sydsnap episode, the turkish host club guy, the french guy who's an anime artist, etc...
I think the Roman stuff was more about the next group having a function they can abuse. Roads and stuff had a very practical use, so they kept them.
They made paved roads so their legions could move faster through the realm, but yes, they adopted the greek pantheon because it worked well for them, like they did later with Christianity
this is so far the funniest and best conversation they ever had, the podcast is still going real strong!
As a Finnish person, I can't imagine what it's like to have seasonal depression when living here: you go to school/work and it's dark, you get home and it's already dark again
Yeah I actually kinda like the cold and the dark. Very cozy.
@@thenotreallyfunnyguy Same, it makes staying in home extra cozy :)
I am from Finland as well and i love winter.
@@mamrelaadi4066 The reason you don't have seasonal depression is because you have constant depression.
The suicide rates are equal to Japanese figures.
suomi mainittu torilla tavataan
Funny part about this is that Aristotle did had a teacher who did keep a record named Plato, who had another teacher called Socrates, the guy who started asking about stuff, whose work Plato wrote down about.
who in turn took many ideas from Indian philosophy.
Socrates wasn't the first philopher though, just maybe one of the most famous ones.
Yeah joey corrected it later 😂
But still thou Indians were way ahead and way earlier in this philosophy stuff they just termed it differently
Socrates might have coined or been the origin of the term philosophy
But the concept nha
And then Diogenes came and trolled them all
garnt's light mode take made me respect him so much more
Shoutout to the person that perfectly predicted the light mode dark mode debate. That’s honestly legendary XD
Meilyne really hit the gold mine when she put these boys together. Over 300 hours of content and these baby men are still pushing out fantastic material lol
Now I'm curious if she's equally as good at being a matchmaker?
I'd love to see people who are well-versed in the subjects the boys touched upon react to this episode and share their insights.
At first I wanted to hit my head against a wall. But as it went on I started laughing at how close they got and then took a right turn off a cliff.
It’s like watching someone trip and fall continuously. It’s so bad yet so funny
Man as a doctor it made me have a cerebrovascular accident
@@Deadi12 LOL this might be what I went through as well. I couldn't watch this in one sitting because of all the frustration I felt for myself and also for Connor, who was the one who came the closest to getting some things right, or was just headed in the right direction... whereas the frustration I had for Joey was for the opposite reason 😆
@@Deadi12 Welcome to Trash Taste.
i never thought i would find the answer to something i’ve always wondered about myself on a podcast, but yeah, i definitely have synesthesia. the one thing that really stands out for me is having certain distinct feelings about things. for example, places. i get different feelings about the current place i’m in, meaning that my house has its own feeling, the town i live in, other peoples houses, even streets has a feeling for me. and the same applies to the media i consume. games, shows, music, books. trash taste it’s self has a distinct feeling to me. it’s very weird and fascinating, again i’ve always thought about how i see and experience things, thinking i was the only one, but i’m glad to know it’s something that others experience as well
This must be my very favorite episode of all! As a non-anime fan who enjoys watching, listening to you discussing real life "shower thoughts" was so entertaining! Ty :)
01:04:13 Connor casually talking about brain transplant like it's a routine procedure is amazing
I agree that his comment is interesting, but not for the same reason you do. Connor framed it as "if my brain is taken out and another brain is put in, is it still me?" But for me, and certainly I would have thought the more normal question is, If you take my brain and put it in another body am i still the same person.
@@Sev826 So same question as the ship of theseus dilemma
@@Sev826 yeah yeah i agree. i also find it an interesting thought* experiment* for sure. it's just funny cuz i just had mental whiplash when he said "so brain transplant..."
Joey is r/confidentlyincorrect incarnate lmao
Loved this episode! It’s these moments that make it so enjoyable to watch y’all argue or have deep discussions about subjects (you agreed) you’re not sure about 😂
Probably my favorite episode in months, love these pointless arguments!
I always listen to Trash Taste in the shower and this episode made me have several breakdowns (in the shower)
The way the conversation deteriorates over the course of the episode is hilarious.
A channel where you get professionals to fact check trash taste arguments would be so good
a very simple explanation why you get better eyesight through a pinch hole:
Basically, light is scattered and hits your eyes in a sort of a "splash". Through a pinch hole, light from other angles/directions that can enter your eyeballs get blocked and the only thing that remain are straight light through the pinch. Straight light is easier for your eyes to focus on, generally speaking.
1:19:00 Connor conveniently forgetting the Egyptians, whose writing is so ancient it predates Aristotle, feels so British of him. He should be proud
That was not his point though. He was saying that cultures constantly erased others history and made life harder for future people. Sure, bringing up the Egyptians would be a good point but that's not really what he was going for with his point.
He literally spent an entire tirade saying that other people wrote shit down and then their books got burned. Think about the Library of Alexandria, for example. He spent a large amount of time saying that "[it] didn't start with Aristotle".
Bruh
@@nodruj8681 a trait not uncommon in ancient civilizations
@@Necrow_Productions A little late for a reply of a valid point, but the reason cultures were erased/hidden from public record is because the dominant culture needed to "rewrite history from the victors' point of view" so they wouldn't be seen as the oppressors by future generations
@@neonsilver1936 a little late for a reply, but yeah, he does address this. The episode is referring to "shower thoughts", meaning that they didn't really look into any of the topics ahead of time; in other words, they are winging their arguments based on their opinion. This isn't uncommon in Trash Taste; it's kinda part of their charm. Back to the issue though, without needing to cross the Mediterranean, there's examples in Greek lore of writing stuff down to help future generations not repeat mistakes, such as the Illiad (the fall of Troy) & the Odyssey. Not to mention, philosophy-wise, there's records for the set of people who came before Socrates (teacher of Aristotle's teacher, Plato).
Connor's argument about evolution makes a lot of sense. He's literally explaining the plot of WALL-E. Which had a lot of commentary about band-aid fixes to our poor choices.
The boys said many... MANY wrong things this episode, but Connor was definitely right that not all evolution is good evolution. There's a reason Darwin called it Natural Selection not Survival of the Fittest, because nature decides who survives, and sometimes, nature gives the middle finger to really powerful, evolutionarily strong titans, and lets the koala survive as long as it has.
@@Endershock1678 Wait, I thought the koala survived longer than most because it's seemingly under human care. Like, pandas.
@@adrianherbert5844 Koala's have been around for 25 million years, and would most likely still be around if humans didn't exist.
Garnts mom called his eyesight a skill issue😂
I remeber the time when I got my first pair of glasses, I could see the texture on the walls it was so trippy.
I was going to comment on the synesthesia issue, having it myself, saying that you don't necessarily "see" colors or shapes, but when I went to the piano to check - to really pay attention - I was like "oh yeah, I guess I actually do 'see' colors in the shapes of the keys while I play." It's obvious when paying attention but just subtle enough that it's more like in the mind most of the time. For me, it's almost like the keyboard changes colors as I play. But it's not like the colors blind me from my other perceptions, instead almost being like things glowing a certain hue or highlighted color - for example, f sharp minor is a crimson red while g minor is royal blue; D flat major is yellow and pearl white while d minor is yellowish-orange. Hope that helps.
Also, this doesn't only happen when playing the piano, but when I'm just listening to music too. I don't have perfect pitch. Instead, for me, the shapes of the keys seem sufficient to alter how I see the colors and shapes that are "projected", but there are pieces of music I have listened to that I clearly have a color scape associated with, but I don't know the specific key or mode at any given point in those pieces. My brain is just weird like that.
Do you wield this superpower to make playing piano easier with color recognition?
also, connor here is getting confused about this. i guess people with this condition see colors of the sound that any word/intrument produces regardless of what the word means. and yes, i read thst the colors associated with the sound is consistent, it wont change next week if u randomize the set of words one day and ask him/her again next week.
@@reezeyraola4595 yes
I get this with the modes, phyrigian is yellow, dorian is blue, lydian js green, mixolydian is pink, locrian is red and minor is purple.
However my synesthesia is mainly connecting pain, pitch and colour like something like I pinch is yellow or high pitch pain whereas a bruise is blue and low pitch. I hear and see when I feel pain but I don't feel pain when I hear or see, but I also see when I hear. It's super confusing
Relating hard to Connor's sheer frustration at the boys misunderstanding how concepts work here
‘How concepts work?’ And also misunderstanding, they aren’t trying to be wrong or off on a topic, they aren’t experts so what do you expect? It’s not a science podcast
@@dead_pool7518 No one said they’re experts, but that doesn’t meet you can’t be frustrated with their inability to understand things.
Considering Connor is often the one who gets concepts very wrong but vehimently defends his pov, I always get "oof" moments at his frustrations.
@@MaJuV he is just the one who has really strong opinion on sometimes really wrong things, he is consistently the most scientific of the bunch through out all episode
@@oldcowbb It is true that he has the most scientific pov of the trio. But that doesn't take away that he can be very wrong and still defend his wrong points as if they were right.
I think any other Aussie can agree with this, I really want an uncensored clip or montage of Joey blasting the C word.
Them: "Mudan, cut that part out"
1:36 Also Mudan: "No, no I don't think I will"
This whole episode felt like a fever dream.
Connor with glasses makes him 10x more haughtier
*hotter
imagine him doing that "fix the glasses position move" everytime he gonna say something controversial lol
So I have associative synesthesia, which is more common that full on synesthesia. Famous example is artist Wassily Kadinski. I’ve been playing piano since I was six and have as long as I can remember a strong association of certain colours to certain notes (and in extension, some chords). For example, C is bright yellow, D is red, E is orange, F is green etc. This has been consistant all my life and is not just imagined, but an inevitable association. I do not have perfect pitch though so I can’t just hear a note without reference and see the colour, I need to know what note it is, but I have pretty good relative pitch so only knowing one is enough to hear the rest (in context).
Currently doing a masters in composition! Hit me up if you want any music or arrangements!
Eyesight going bad is instantaneous and Gradual at the same time.
I also don't remember having good eyesight but I also remember having better than what I have now.
Also, when I first wore glasses when I was 7, It felt like sun just became brighter 😂😂... Everything just looked HD af. I started seeing tiny flowers and all at the tip of these plants around my home and all of a sudden shit started looking colourful coz the flowers had colours 😂😂😂
Please tell me it's not just me who just wanted Joey and Conner to swap places so all their T-shirts go from Light mode to mixed to Dark mode.
Aki: Joey can you just chill with the haughtyness right now.
Joey, wearing a monacle and tuxedo: Sorry honey I'm a CEO now *sips tea
You're not funny
@@sayandutta5226 I know 😉