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XP HF coil ~Testing high frequencies
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2020
- What are the advantages of using a high frequency coil on your metal detector.
Lets find out using the XP Deus and the white round High Frequency coil.
I have been detecting since 1968, and right now I have 11 detectors in my arsenal. The ORX is one of them, and I find your videos so helpful and fun to watch. You always keep it interesting! Thank you!
Thanks Chuck, appreciate your feedback.
Hi Gary, I've been experimenting on 28KHz hot programme with the 9" elliptical. I've been detecting a finds-rich area with lots of tiny buttons etc. I've found loads of stuff missed previously on 14KHz, including some targets that were quite deep. After finding targets on 28KHz I tried switching back to 14 to see if I could hear it - you get that high tone but it's so faint at 14 that it is easy to miss. I definitely recommend anyone with the HF coil goes over their previously detected sites with higher frequencies because you just never know what you may have missed.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
I've learned so much from you videos. After using the XY on my last hunts, I don't think I will ever hunt without it again. Great for helping with coke.
Thanks Chuck, so glad they have helped.
Great video, Gary. Really showcases the versatility of the Deus and how it opens up properties to go back and search with different settings.
Thanks Grant keep up your fantastic work 👍
Thanks for this video: its eye opening. I have always gravitated to the lower frequencies because I was taught they handle mineral and salt better.
Thanks Lee 👍
I'm going to say it again Gary, thanks for taking the time to make these vids. During lockdown I'm watching them all again, next best thing to being out.
Howz this for an idea while you can't get out... How about compiling a vid on your out-takes? We dig some right rubbish up sometimes when we think it's a good target and curse, we drive the spade in, hit a rock and fall a over t etc. I remember my mate, so keen the get on the field before me that when he tried to clear the barbed wire fence he actually cartwheeled, I can remember now seeing both his feet arch through the air. Happy days.
Gary,
I hope you and yours have a Very Good New Year, we all need one!
I must be one of the few watchers who doesn't metal detect, but I like seeing your technology, it
adds to my appreciation .
Cheers,
Rik Spector
Thanks Rick, happy new year 👍
Your video are very useful, I have a ORX machine, I am still learning have to use it, eventhough I have had it a few year now, I am learning new tricks by watching your videos, thank you ! And thank you for your very good hints ! Happy New Year !
Thanks Peter 👍
HI Gary,
I switched to 31khz after your summer school couple of years ago.... I use deep fully open disc minus 6.4 with full tones reactivity 4 audio response 5....I have never found so much stunning items and hammereds...exactly as per your vid ,any squeak above an iron tone ...I dig it! And I reep from the deep! Happy new year!
Thanks for your excellent feedback my friend.
Happy new year 👍
That's why I normally use Deus Fast Program with the HF Cool which I Love. Always in 14 kHz , Audio on 2 by using WD4 Heatphone. Under 40 and over 90 I just dig Liter. Higher Frequency only If there are Electrical issues to cover.
Its always a trade off between the coil coverage. I like to run the x35 11" at max frequency, even on low conductive targets. Would have been interesting to repeat the test with this coil. I have the HF round too.
Video would be too long
Cheers Gary , enjoying the videos from comfort of armchair and keeping me interested in hobby until I can get back out digging , 👍
Thanks we are locked down until further notice, you can swing a golf club, go fishing but forbidden to go detecting......crazy!
Gary, I use X35 and generally if I find an iffy target on 17khz I drop it to 7khz and if its still Iffy or worse I walk on. Granted sometimes I'm probably missing stuff and sometimes I dig anyway and 90% of the time the machine is right. Lower Frequency always tends to ID the scrap better which I saw in that video too. What the video told me is that if your on HF above 30khz your probably going to dig more targets as they all sound better if there's a hint of non ferreous in there.
Thanks Andrew, you are right the lower frequencies help identify the bigger mis shaped iron.
Thanks for the great video Gary ! I recently hunted an old site with my HF coil . I noticed the ground response didn't sound right on 14 kHz , it was a bit quiet and the tones were very low. I changed to 32 kHz it was perfect I could hear the ground come to life and the targets were much more clearer. Again excellent video !!
Glad it helped SC thanks for supporting my channel
Great video and just at the right time as I have just bought the HF coil as a Christmas present to myself 😊 I’m really looking forward to giving it a try!
Thank you my friend, please keep us posted on the XP Adventures and the Metal Detecting Skill School Facebook groups.
I was recently at a site with bad EMI a cattle fence near by plus overhead power lines I tried all sorts of adjustment and finally switched to dry beach the emi was almost gone and I soon popped out a gold ring and a silver coin plus a bunch of coppers I have been over this site with 2 other machines plus the Deus on days when the emi was not bad and expected to find very little but was surprised that by changing the search mode I would find stuff I missed I also noticed the Deus loves wet soil over dry and can go to a site after a good rain and it's like it's never been hunted thanks for the video and happy new year
Thanks for the interesting information.
Another great video Gary,, information is brilliant a god send to anyone new to the deus
Thanks Alan 👍
Thanks Gary... Happy New Year Mate.... CMNW 🏴
Thanks CMNW good to hear from you 👍
Enjoyed gary 👌👌the hot program is brilliant i use it all the time after watching your great videos
Cheers Brian, good to hear from you 👍
Hello from France, good choice ! it will be better in vietnam ! The best program is the beach sens, i don't like pitch, the square or the pwm are better. You can use sel sens for more stability, and increase a little the réactivity + 0.5 to 1.5. The mode all metal is good (push the right botton up). Don't forget to make ground balance (move the coil not more thant 5 centimers from the ground). I used the Equinox for a long time, now it's finish, only the Deus 2, it's the best for beachcombing.
Thank you
Well done Gary. I'll give the higher frequencies a try. Normally I hunt with the HF 9" coil at the very lowest possible setting. 13.5Khz . I'm after colonial coins and relix here in Ct
Always worth a try Frank 👍
Brilliant learning curve - thanks for sharing Gary I will try experimenting a little more with frequency when I’m next out in the field. Happy New Year to you 👍
Thanks my friend 👍
I'm asking for help, I bought an ORX with a white probe. I'm looking for little medieval silver coins. Could you help me with what program i'm working on and how to adjust the machine and what frequency. Thank you in advance
There are no real adjustments with the ORX.
Coin Fast if there is contamination. Coin Deep if there is not.
Raising the sensitivity and frequency will help.
I run HF round found a lot and been trying a X35 9 inch with 4 Khz lot in trashy sites thanks for the Info happy New Year 2021 Brother
Thanks Tim, hopefully catch up with you in 2021
Happy New Year to You,Gary 🙂The White Coils are really exellent to find very small Targets in high Frequencys better than in lower Frequencies,dont know that🤔The white Coils are good for Gold Nugget Hunting for Example in Australia,too.Thanks for Uploading your Tests for Us🙂👍Stay safe...Geoffrey
Thanks Geoffrey happy new year and thanks for the feedback my friend.
Jeremy Paystreak Superfreak loves the 9" elliptical at 74 kHz for small jewelry and coins. Not a huge amount of depth, but will pick up all the low conductivity gold and jewelry to around 6" or so.
Very informative , thankyou for the effort involved in making this video 😊
You are very welcome Russ 🤝
Thnx for al the vids this year Gary! Allways looking forward to the a new one! Best wishes for 2021
Thanks guys 👍
Thanks Clarkson.
Nice honest review, unbiased. Good information for people interested in buying a xp coil.
Thanks DD 👍
Looking forward to another year of great videos Gary. I've learned a great deal. Like most im ready to put 2020 behind us now. I wish you and your family a very happy and healthy New Year, GOD Bless
Thanks Joe it's good to hear from you 👍
Thanks Gary! Very usefull
You are welcome my friend 🤝👍
Hi Gary - nice video and info. I’ve been meaning to ask you that after a number of years of a piss poor mounting feature on the Deus controller , I would think they would come up with something better to offer to their customers. And maybe while they’re at it a thin plastic plate kit so your coil doesn’t get killed on stubble ! I know I’d buy a better fix for the control as well as the coil bottom plate kit. Happy New Year , cheers
I feel your pain brother 👍
Interesting video, thanks Gary. I have the original 11" and am trying to resist getting a 9" HF but you're not making it easy! 😁
ATB for 2021!
Thanks Neil 👌
Just run it at the highest frequency, TBH you won't really miss anything IMHO....
Thanks for the tip, I do mostly run it at 18kHz but do try other frequencies if I find a productive area. 👍
A Happy and safe New Year
Thanks Robert
Very interesting mate, I would have loved to see you try each frequency with reactivity 2 as well, just to see the relationship between power and frequencies. ATB MMMD
Cheers mate perhaps next time I can go into more detail 👍
Hi gary, used the orginal adx 100 fixed coil, it ran on 3khz i think but it could hit them tiny cut hammered coins and low conductors like small gold, always a contentious issue frequency, my favourite was my origanal goldmaxx not the power i could tell how many holes were in a button before i dug it, i moved on to a deus but i could not gel with it, i use the equinox 800 now, great video gary, all the best and happy new year,
Thanks Stuart, I have an ADX perhaps I should take it for a spin.
@@The-skillschool please do gary it as to be the original with the fixed coil, dont no why the one with the removeble coil did not seem to the same, turn the disc till it just clicks to on, no further, it can nock out your spade, its very old school it dont make a peep till bang signal, it also works on the beach mine died a few years ago its one that caint be replaced but sorrly missed it was a remarkable detector, xp at its very best,
Well done Gary!
Thanks guys 👍
Hi Garay
I'm fairly new to the D1
But learning all time.
Using pitch hot and fast programs
I recently purchased a HF coil ,and wanting to no what best programs and frequencies to adjust .
Can I adjust , and up the frequencies also in the pitch and Fast programs ,to have the same sensitive affect
Cheers
C
Yes you can change any program to any frequency.
Take a look at my Sonar program videos.
Thanks for another video and Happy New Year. I get on really well with my Deus but the only thing it lacks is being multi frequency, I know you can change as you were in the video but it's not completely multi frequency if you know what I mean. Thanks again 👍
Fair comment RRH trouble is Multifrequency is slower than single frequencies because they need more time to analyse the signal..
I've done all the tests myself, air tests are not conclusive, in the ground with iron at different depth levels really shows how single frequency is best.
@@The-skillschool Thanks Gary that makes sense.
Great gary...i follow you from italy!happy new year!
Thanks Antonio, have a great new year 🤝
Thanks Gary, I think I'll try 31khz on my Roman field. Happy new year mate.
Best of luck my friend
You definitely should. Have you seen Gary's other video with the elliptical coil where he went over a previously detected Roman field and found some more coins?
Great video Gary, Thanks. How do you think the higher frequencies of the Elliptical coil would have faired. Happy new year!
I think it may have struggled with target 4, but you never know.
Thanks for watching Mark
Great video Gary 👍 thanks.
Thanks DD 👍
Only wish XP would make this coil and the elitical with VDI normally, I have both of them, increasing the frequencies the VDI also increases, good video though
Thanks
Very informative all the best for 2021 from me and zep
Thanks guys 👍
4 small hammered with my hf coil. Does the job well on 29klz.
Brilliant thanks for your feedback.
Happy New Year Gary!
And to you GW 🤝
Where's me my HF coil for Deus II? Pronto XP... thanks Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
Hi Gary ,running the hot program with the 11 inch X35 coil and then increasing the frequency to as high as possible my finds rate have shot up.A re-visit using this method picked out another 8 Roman coins that were previously missed, a couple half the size of a drawing pin!
Is it really worth purchasing the HF white coil when so often there is not a great difference between 31khz and 54khz?
Hi Mark, thats a tricky one, if you are finding small items with your X35 and happy with it then stick with it.
Personally I think the HF can offer an advantage on Roman sites.
@@The-skillschool Thank you for your thoughts,its one Ive wrestled with for a while,I shall ponder further!
Thanks Gary - up we go to 31Khz - upwards and onwards!
Please let us know how you get on Haydn
Great video Gary I thin they would be a difference in the signal strength between 31 and 54 if the target was a little deeper for the 54khz to make a difference I think the ain't much difference in the tatgets in the video as they were about the same depth
Thanks TKF frequency is a dark art 👍
Happy New Year 🎄
And to you Mick
Good vid Gary... doesn’t seem there is much of a downside to using the higher frequencies especially if finding hammered fragments at depth which you might easily have missed otherwise! What are the cons as presumably higher frequencies won’t miss bigger targets at sim depths? Happy New Year!
Thanks for your thoughts my friend 👍
Hey ,Gary.Nice video again.Which program is better with 9 hf coil in roman iron infested sites ( hot or deus fast ) .And which frequency 14.4 or 28+ for better separation? I'm searching roman silver denarius? Cheers :)
14Khz HOT would be my choice.
Thank you for fast reply.🍀
Very useful - thanks. When watching your videos I wish I could source a spade similar to yours, which seems to be a good size, head shape and not too heavy. Any suggestions where I could find something similar?
Thanks Phil you can convert a Draper spade to a long handle.👍
Would you be better just starting with the 30 / 50 frequencies? Is there a reason why you would bother with the 14 ?
To prove a point Paul, thats all
great info and tips again,,,, loving your jacket gary ! is that surplus ?
Thanks Kevin, I think it's known as a cammo windcheater with map pocket.
I got it from E Bay years ago.
Should I get the 9" x35 instead of the 9" white HF if I already have the original black 9" coil that came with the machine. My original does 4khz to 17khz and with the HF doing 15khz to 55khz surely there is no point getting the X35?
If you have the original black coil, I would personally get the white 9" HF.
But its your choice.
@@The-skillschool yeah! I've been weighing it up and I feel it would just be pointless getting the x35 when I have the original too. When the original does most of what the X35 does.
Thank you! 👍🏼👍🏼
Happy New Year
And to you Marek
Hi Gary, great vid! I’ve been a deus user for about 5 years now and I’m still using v4 with my old 13” black coil. I still love it and everytime I think of upgrading out pops a cut quarter or a piece of gold that makes me think “I’ll stick with the old girl!” But lately I’ve been thinking of getting a smaller coil, for trashy sites and also for stubble which is hard work with the big coil. If I get the HF coil can I still run it on my v4 software? Thanks, Tom. (As a side note, I’m not 100% certain that I won’t upgrade to the latest version, if I did would my old black coil still work?)
Thanks for watching, yes the earlier coils will work on the latest update.
Done many many garden tests and my conclusion is 31 is deeper on silver than 54 , but 54 gives a much much better and deeper signal on gold .
Great info thanks Raymond
Another great video gaz little question for only on the 9"hf coil don't do on the epileptic coil or the x35 it's like the rubber in bottom stem that sits against coil mount is making a creaking noise if I undo it all and put it bk together it stops then as soon as I go to use it again it starts creaking again
Thanks Steve.
Double check you have the spacer in the lower stem with the HF.
Also the top hat has to be fitted correctly.
Failing that change the washer perhaps.
@@The-skillschool ill try again cheers
I figured the Deus is not for me. Would you still recommend the AKA Sorex?
it's s good machine check out the Gary's detecting web site for a review.
Your the best Gary
Cheque is in the post my friend 👌
@@The-skillschool thankyou
I Think its nothing new for you, but for me it is... i ve seen a video from the deus where someone gets an xy screen with an circle and as a Second fubktion a list of groundnumbers when he pushed the pinpiontbutton and the plusbutton... do you have an Video to this Funktion?? His Video was only 4 min., 7 years old and no Infos about the Funktion, only "I have found a funktion".
Greats from Germany
Markus
That was on the older versions to get to a test screen.
The latest XY screen has superceded this.
Ok... Thanks for the fast answer! I m new to the deus, it is an Mountain to climb alone, but with youre help i know how to climb it step by step! Thanks for your efforts!!!
If i see the most German detektorist Videos they only say: "Take one of the presett, Groundbalance it and go." Whats not wrong... you only find something if you go, but its like:" thats the Front of the gun, thats the back, amunition in this Slot, don't let them kill you"😂😅
Greats
Markus
You are welcome, if you are new to the Deus I would advise don't touch the Groun Balance if you are searching inland.
Factory programs do a good job.
Do you have any specific program's just for the 9 inch hf round coil. Thanks in advance Chris aka "Burty Bee"
Hi Chris
There are no real specific programs for coils, as so much depends on soil conditions and desired targets.
okekokey thanks for informative vids .
great test i am thinking about getting the 9" hf i have 11" x35 but will be moving to Kent soon and i have some roman sites to detect just wondered if it was worth it? thanks for the video and happy new year.
Thanks H&S yes I think the smaller HF coil could offer an advantage on junky Roman sites over the 11" coil.
@@The-skillschool ok great i will look into buying one maybe when there on sale do you know when the next sale is? cant wait to get back on the roman as iv been living in derbyshire and i only have a small permission and its all pasture cant wait to get back on the plough.
quick question, and maybe a daft one 🤔. does anybody know if the higher frequencies of the hf coil are still used without the control unit (just using headphones) if that makes sense 🤣
Yes on the Deus only
Hi Gary, can you tell me were you bought your army jacket from if possible?
Interesting thanks on the 11inch x35 is the highest 27.7kHz ? and do you know how similar that be to 31 ?
About the same results I would say.
@@The-skillschool ok thanks
A question to the Community.... how long should the ws5 accus hold the Energy without Loading.... my ws5's are out of Energy within 2 Days of non using🤔 thats the only thing im pissed of with the Pack have, and i Think its not normal...
Sounds like they were either turned on or there is a battery problem
Thank you Gary, very interesting. Happy New Year
And to you my friend
Would of liked to see 17 that would of been better
Can you share the hot program please..
Program 9 on Deus 1
Will there be a higher frequency coil for the deus 2 ?
Not on the D2 it already runs up to 45Khz
Frequensy is thery thery misterious for me !!!!!!!!! My problem is wrap effect for coin !!!! 30 khz......50 khz ... for differenc????? Good by .
Hey whats new on the xp horizon? Always so quiet!!
There's always something in the pipeline.
Can't say at the moment.
Ok great, how bout time frame on something new? Come on give us a little something!!!!! Thanks for the videos you put out, always love the content, so informative best how to's on you tube!
Yeah but if you didn’t no where it was and what it was, you would have passed it over, like air testing not good air isn’t ground
Definitely better doing it on targets that are not pre buried gives a true test
Agreed 👍
Cześć GARY
From that experiment I would leave it on 31 but at the end of the day it’s all trial and error. Just my opinion
Good call Clive
Lower freqouency its for deep targets
Deep small targets ?
@@The-skillschool i think deep big targets,but if coin is big enough 14 khz can see in deeper ground that the 30 khz frequency
Sure but what if the coin is on edge.
The trouble is we just don't know, we only know what we are finding, we never know what we are missing.
Thanks for your thoughts.👍
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