great video! i agree. this was my 1st choice until i saw your videos on the competitor pro module. actually, it seems like the competitor pro is kind of an extension of this module. the big difference from what i'm seeing is that with the competitor pro module, you basically have this module, but you have to do all the work setting up the courses, whereas, this module already has the courses done. as for your wondering why the police weren't helping out in the shoot houses, i figure they are just the re-assigned police officers from Uvalde, TX ...... oh, wait a minute, did i just "say" that out loud?! 🤭🙄
@ee222 - It kind of is, but it isn't. The Competitive Shooter Pro ( CSP ) is geared toward your action shooting sports, which stages you make and the targets are the same targets and position every time. The Tactical Targets, is kind of like the CSP, but the targets are random, so you can run through the same stage and the targets tend to change. Sometimes you have a lot of targets to shoot and sometimes you have less. Other than remembering the rooms in Tactical Targets, the Targets are usually different. in CSP, you can remember the layout as well as the type of targets that are available at each position. Scoring on CSP is a little more in-depth as well. Tactical Targets is something I still enjoy to run through while walking on a tread mill since the scoring area is a little more forgiving and most are the targets are closer than some of the ones I practice with in CSP. But if you wanted to use this for shoot house practice, it is pretty good since you have to quickly identify threats and non threat targets
@@joemky well, thanks alot! you just made me go from deciding on which one to wanting BOTH! ... joemky, you're not helping out my budget very well!! 😁 seriously though, you made some good points to consider. on a sidenote, since you seem to be very well versed in the smokeless range (as well as a couple of other DF systems), since i'm pretty well focused on getting the SR, but not able to afford the "diamond" package, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME (i realize that you're busy, so no problem if you don't want to answer this), do you have any recommendations as to what you think are the best modules to get and stay within, say a $3k range?
@@ee222 Happy to help out if I can. What are you practicing for? To be a better shooter in general? Are you a competition Shooter in USPSA IDPA or Steel Challenge, GSSF, shot sig, etc? Is this Practice for Law Enforcement or Military? Are you mostly shooting rifles or pistols?
@@joemky "Happy to help out if I can. What are you practicing for? ..." mostly for self defense, but there's a little bit of "fun/arcade" (which the basic module already covers) and competition thrown in as well. @joemky "...To be a better shooter in general? Are you a competition Shooter in USPSA IDPA or Steel Challenge, GSSF, shot sig, etc?..." definitely yes, to the 1st question. also, yes to the competition questions, but these would be secondary to the other questions. however, i'm not sure what "shot sig" is, so that might be a more interesting type of competition to me than the others. as for the 1st 2 competitions, from what i've researched, there seems to be a lot of similarities, so my guess is, when it comes for me to decide on one, i would probably lean towards the one that has more local live fire events. @joemky "...Is this Practice for Law Enforcement or Military? ..." no, but i am interested in learning self defense for both myself and others if need be, so this would be the most important to me. @joemky "... Are you mostly shooting rifles or pistols?" both, but mostly pistol.
@@ee222 Sorry that was a typo, shoot sig, which is like GSSF but with Sig Sauer pistols. Defensive pistol and general shooting. The Regular smokeless range has some good tools. Tactical Targets is also a good choice but even though the target placement is random, then stage layout isn't, If you are an IDPA Shooter, that will help with the defensive pistol and the Competitive Shooter Pro will Allow you to create IDPA Stages you find on the web, or encounter at IDPA Matches, also Create your own from your own imagination and create or follow stage descriptions which you can have concealment, mags on table, unloaded start, etc. I'm not I'm 100% sure on what packages are avaiable since Competitive Shoot Pro is very new. But you don't have to get everything all at once. You can get the Smokeless range and camera and add on things as you need them, plus they also allow 15 day evaluation of the other packages so you can try before you buy. @laserammo might be able to answer the questions on the packages a little better.
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great video! i agree. this was my 1st choice until i saw your videos on the competitor pro module. actually, it seems like the competitor pro is kind of an extension of this module. the big difference from what i'm seeing is that with the competitor pro module, you basically have this module, but you have to do all the work setting up the courses, whereas, this module already has the courses done.
as for your wondering why the police weren't helping out in the shoot houses, i figure they are just the re-assigned police officers from Uvalde, TX ...... oh, wait a minute, did i just "say" that out loud?! 🤭🙄
@ee222 - It kind of is, but it isn't. The Competitive Shooter Pro ( CSP ) is geared toward your action shooting sports, which stages you make and the targets are the same targets and position every time. The Tactical Targets, is kind of like the CSP, but the targets are random, so you can run through the same stage and the targets tend to change. Sometimes you have a lot of targets to shoot and sometimes you have less. Other than remembering the rooms in Tactical Targets, the Targets are usually different. in CSP, you can remember the layout as well as the type of targets that are available at each position. Scoring on CSP is a little more in-depth as well. Tactical Targets is something I still enjoy to run through while walking on a tread mill since the scoring area is a little more forgiving and most are the targets are closer than some of the ones I practice with in CSP. But if you wanted to use this for shoot house practice, it is pretty good since you have to quickly identify threats and non threat targets
@@joemky well, thanks alot! you just made me go from deciding on which one to wanting BOTH! ... joemky, you're not helping out my budget very well!! 😁 seriously though, you made some good points to consider.
on a sidenote, since you seem to be very well versed in the smokeless range (as well as a couple of other DF systems), since i'm pretty well focused on getting the SR, but not able to afford the "diamond" package, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME (i realize that you're busy, so no problem if you don't want to answer this), do you have any recommendations as to what you think are the best modules to get and stay within, say a $3k range?
@@ee222 Happy to help out if I can. What are you practicing for? To be a better shooter in general? Are you a competition Shooter in USPSA IDPA or Steel Challenge, GSSF, shot sig, etc? Is this Practice for Law Enforcement or Military? Are you mostly shooting rifles or pistols?
@@joemky "Happy to help out if I can. What are you practicing for? ..."
mostly for self defense, but there's a little bit of "fun/arcade" (which the basic module already covers) and competition thrown in as well.
@joemky "...To be a better shooter in general? Are you a competition Shooter in USPSA IDPA or Steel Challenge, GSSF, shot sig, etc?..."
definitely yes, to the 1st question. also, yes to the competition questions, but these would be secondary to the other questions. however, i'm not sure what "shot sig" is, so that might be a more interesting type of competition to me than the others. as for the 1st 2 competitions, from what i've researched, there seems to be a lot of similarities, so my guess is, when it comes for me to decide on one, i would probably lean towards the one that has more local live fire events.
@joemky "...Is this Practice for Law Enforcement or Military? ..."
no, but i am interested in learning self defense for both myself and others if need be, so this would be the most important to me.
@joemky "... Are you mostly shooting rifles or pistols?"
both, but mostly pistol.
@@ee222 Sorry that was a typo, shoot sig, which is like GSSF but with Sig Sauer pistols. Defensive pistol and general shooting. The Regular smokeless range has some good tools. Tactical Targets is also a good choice but even though the target placement is random, then stage layout isn't, If you are an IDPA Shooter, that will help with the defensive pistol and the Competitive Shooter Pro will Allow you to create IDPA Stages you find on the web, or encounter at IDPA Matches, also Create your own from your own imagination and create or follow stage descriptions which you can have concealment, mags on table, unloaded start, etc. I'm not I'm 100% sure on what packages are avaiable since Competitive Shoot Pro is very new. But you don't have to get everything all at once. You can get the Smokeless range and camera and add on things as you need them, plus they also allow 15 day evaluation of the other packages so you can try before you buy. @laserammo might be able to answer the questions on the packages a little better.