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Yeah might as well make those Jams funny! I knew it was going to jam eventually at this match since I was using 4 year old reloads the ti use for practice now just to finish them off. This weekend I have an IDPA match Scheduled at it is suppose to be a high of 32, so it's gonna be cold this weekend. At least last weekend it warmed up to the 40's by noon and was 28 in the morning.

@eblake626 - Thanks Edward! You too Brother, Lets Get at It and hit that GM!!

@@eblake626 thanks brother!

@@landslide03 IMarksman has a video like that posted on their product page for this product.

@@donh1572 Meprolight Glock Tru-Dot Night Sight fits G17,19,20,21,22,23. Adjustable set with green rear and front sight from Amazon 3 years ago

@@eblake626 thanks!

@@bryancastro265 thanks. Yeah it hit the wall which would have counted against the score as a miss

@eblake626 - Anytime! If you have any other questions let me know. They are great glasses and have been going on strong for 2 years now, and still the easiest why for me to quickly record my live and dry fire.

@kidiraq8381 I still use it in my daily dry fire training. If I have a USPSA/IDPA major match I use their CSP add on or SC add on for Any steel Challenge Match. When I don't have a Major Match I tend to use the target shooting option that comes with the base Smokeless Range, as a warmup for 10 minutes doing 4 different sessions with a par time of 5 seconds: first group shooting 5 shots free hand a couple of times, then Strong Hand only 5 shots a couple of times, Weak hand 5 shots a couple of times. the 5 Shots free hand, reload and 5 more shots in under 5 seconds, then the last one is 4 shots to the body and 1 to the head. That is just the warm up, then I start going into the other apps that come with the smokeless range to try and beat my current high score, or go into any of the other add on's. Tactical Targets, Open Range, SC or CSP for 10-15 minutes. So yeah still use it on a regular basis since 2022. It 's nice to have different options for dry fire practice to keep it interesting after years of doing it.

@1940restorod - Most of their starting kits come with the Camera Sensor, Calibration Software and the main software in this case Steel Challenge. The SIRT Pistols that they offer do not have an optic mount, It wasn't until sometime last Year that SIRT made a laser pistol with a mount option in the 110 model. I ended using their Sig P320 model and used a plate mount, which replaced the rear sight so you can add an optic to it. Which is what I use for RFPO training and USPSA & IDPA Carry Optics practice. I did wish there was a Ruger 22/45 laser pistol out there but that doesn't exist at this time. You can just the code JOE10 for 10% imarksman products now if you wanted to. If you wanted the SIRT 110 with the optic mount you would have to get that separate from NextLevelTraining dot com.

Do you feel the response from trigger pull to hit is accurate? In other words will my times be accurate?

​@@1940restorod Great Question! Hard to answer. So There are times that I am not performing at my best so times vary in general on Dry and Live fire. However I have been keeping a spreadsheet of my sessions before the State Match when I am doing nothing but practice for Steel Matches. My Best times have either matched the performance from the State Match or plus or minus 3 seconds from my best time from the dry fire session data. So there was improvement from the year before, but not by much since I used this for the month before and attended 1 steel match the month before. I'm sure the times would match more if I just practice with steel on dry fire and went to the Steel Matches every month. But this always vary with my mixing in USPSA and IDPA during the year and what ever has a Level 3 match coming up is what I concentrate on more, which is usually USPSA for the last 2 years, Might be different next year but we will see.

@@1940restorod in short, despite only doing one club match in July and a state match in august, and dry fire all of July and before that state match. I wasn't worse than the year before but just a little better, but that was expected since I didn't shoot steel a lot this year. Was able to hit podium for RFPO but could have done better if I did more steel matches earlier in the year.

@@mitchelkibel5511 he is a great guy and great glasses. If you have a chance to see him in person that advantage of it. It has it posted on his site at the next location that will be appearing at.

@modern_shooting - I haven't played with Laserammo VST Pro 2, but what I saw from the pictures of it, it looks like you draw out the targets you tend to shoot at. This one is not as static as that. If you put in a scenario of an attacker holding a hostage, VST you draw out the attacker, this one, you view the end results to see if you hit the target that you wanted and wear it hit or if you hit the hostage as you go through the results and see a red dot on the hostage which indicate a hit in that area. This one comes with 4 videos, one has the police stopping a car. the attacker runs out shoots and run's back. So when partite or # of shots is reach and the training stops you can view the results to see where you hit the attacker or if you missed.

​@@joemky Yes, I have VST Pro 2. I know how it works. My idea was to just play a run from the stage (just like you did) in VST Pro, without editing, because by default the VST Pro will show you where you hit. Speaking of time, you get it from your shooter timer, which picks up the sounds of gunfire from the speakers. In the AAR, you can review your shots (accuracy) and the timer will show you (speed/time/splits etc). In this way, you will theoretically be able to keep track of the most important factors in an efficient way and replay the virtual stages very quickly.

​@@modern_shooting Yeah Sorry I didn't mean to imply that you didn't know how it works, I was just stating what I say from lack of experience in never trying it. And that is a cool way of doing that. I guess with this one you don't have to use a separate timer to track total Tim and splits, and you can set a par time to speed. But this does stop when you hit the number of shots that you define. I don't know if VST stops at a number of shots, end of video or if you define a stop target. With live, If I set 32 for the house clearing and the total targets round count is 30 then I am giving my self two extra make up shots, so if I make it to the last target and have two extra shots, I need to use the 2 extra shots to stop it. Same goes if I had a lot of makeup shots before and end up shooting my 32 before getting to the last two targets, so I end up with 4 misses because I ran out of ammo before the last two targets. So it would be nice if I could set a designated stop target and not have to worry about round counts.

@ee222, Before this you use the camera calibration software, which I mentioned in the video. It's the same calibration software that is used for their other products, Steel Challenge, Action Steel, Game Pack etc. Once that is setup and calibrated, the iMarksman Live is just like any of their other software, click to open and start using. With this one you can make your own or import a video from UA-cam to shoot along with. When making your own, you just have to be conscious of the speed. The House video I had to reshoot 3 times to get the speed right. @iMarksman has also recently posted some video's on this products using it in other ways. But yup, just setup the targets video and go. If you shoot competitions, you can record a stage on a walk through and use that video for this. Or house or building clearing if you wanted to as I did

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I'm Using the AimCam Pro 2i, There is a link in the description of the video as well as a discount code. Ii have the camera on my right eye. It Takes a little while to find the area to adjust the camera to get to the right position to see the dot on the pistol and a PCC running a red dot. But Right now I do have it where the camera can be use for pistol or the rifles RFRO for Steel Challenge and PCC. It just takes a little playing with the position using their software not he phone to align it up just right. I've had mine since late 2021 and enjoy them.

@skeenshandguntraining9429. The Newer SIRT 115 & 115C Does have an optic Ready Slide option to purchase. The 110 20/20c and the rest of the lineup does not have that option. Which They came out with the 115 Optic Ready option years after I got my 110 and a year or two after I got my 20. You can use an optic mounting plate to replace your rear iron sights. The Glock Models should have the same Glock foot print as the regular sights. The SIRT 20 which is model after a sig uses the S&w foot print for the rear sights, which I had to get an optic plate for that to attach an optic on mine, Year it raises it up a little, but once you get use to it you don't notice a difference after awhile. It's not ideal since I do like direct slide mount, but it works for training.

Your welcome, hope you enjoy it

@JimboLogic It does have some more options for targets that you normally see in IDPA, USPSA and 3 gun, and now GSSF. But I still use Both for match mode training

@joemky This one just seems a whole lot easier to set up competitive matches with a group. You just pick the number of people and go, and enter your initials at the end. With the target constructor each person needs a profile and you have to put all the profiles in the roster and everyone must go in order and it's difficult to see the rankings. This seems much easier.

@@JimboLogic Nice! Yeah if you are training with a group this might be something easier to use with a group. I'm out in the middle of no where so I'm pretty much the only user that uses the simulators so I never needed to try it with more than 1. I do with that the "Match Mode". Allowed you to set the stages you want to run and just have 1 person on it so I can run through a set of stages in a row without having to select the stage.

@JimboLogic. Did you group it all in one COF? Anything with Multiple strings, I tend to Make a separate COF for the next string. All the Simulators have problems with multi string COF. To find them easier int he list, just create a new group for them so you can find them easier. I know it sounds bad that the Sims can't handle Multi String COF's all that well but I found it useful to break up the strings, this way if I was not happy with my performance on the string. I can repeat that one string until I am with out having to go through 1 or more strings to practice with the one I was having issues with.

That's a bummer. I wanted to be able to do the whole test and then get a score at the end. At least I'm not the only one to have this problem. It just presents the courses of fire out of order. I wonder what criteria it uses to decide the order if it's not sequentially down the list in order. Or maybe it's just a bug or bad programming.

@@JimboLogic Maybe Alphabetical? But Yeah all the sims seem to have this issue with multi string in 1 COF. So Pretty Much have to split them up, and track their score seperately on paper or a spread sheet. I pretty much use spread sheets to calculate the end totals and hit factors when it comes to multi string cof's

@@joemky If I figured it out, I'll let you know.

@@JimboLogic Cool thanks.

Yea you can there is still a lot of light with them inside. If you see some of the reviews that I do on the simulators there is low light in front or just the light from the projector and I am wearing the hunter she gold lens with the aim cam when I film those before I would have to switch lens from inside and outside but with the huntershd gold lens they have not been off those glasses on almost two years. You do notice the difference when you wear them

@@joemky great. Have you tried the ruby lens and if so, what do you think?

@@bluyetiinc7553 I’ve tried them on last nationals match, but I didn’t find a frame that i liked so I didn’t pick any up. Compared to the Golds and ActivBlue, they felt darker. For me it will also that a little while to get use to seeing shades of red for things. But I do plan on eventually picking up a pair of ruby’s to give a full try on them and get use to them to see how they perform. So in sort, I tried them on, but do not own a pair yet, but I plan on getting some within the the next year

@modern_shooting - No I have not tried that. Most of my setup started with imarksman which their instructions were to have the camera as lined up with the project screen as possible. And when I got the Smokeless Range Camera I just ended up putting it on the mount that is attached to the AV Cart that already had a camera on it. I can see why you would need to do what you did to help with lighting in a room from a window. Has it worked well for you?

​@@joemky for many reasons. I mounted the camera on a heavy tripod in the corner behind my desk. Once I set up, I dont care anymore, its nice in isolated zone. From time to time I need to turn it a few degrees to the left or right if someone moved it. The position of the camera does not make difference for lighting conditions, unless you moved it very close to the screen or too far away (depends on camera). This also give a lot of pretty reliable precision in shooting detection system. I marked a lot of index points that tell me if camera or projectors not moved out of desirable place. By doing all these things im able to keep accuracy of the system at pinpoint precision at best, at worst half point.

@@modern_shooting Nice! That is a clever way of being able to keep it up all the time and track when it moves. The only time I have to worry about the camera moving is when I bump into the av cart or if I had to move it out of the guest bedroom because we are having guests. But it's always nice to have a way to just keep it as-is for a long as possible so you don't have to constantly calibrate it.

​@@joemky btw I also In ocluded red dot sight gang.

@@modern_shooting It is a good training tool to become more target focus and you do notice a difference when you start focusing on the dot instead of the target.

@JimboLogic - Yeah Sorry About that, a couple of days after releasing this video, they Started changing the Discount Codes on the ones that the Bot got and put on a website. The New Code for this month is JOEMKYYT, good until august, then then for August Video's I will probably have a new code. They want people to at least view the content that is created to get the code instead of google discount codes.

@joemky Thanks!! We'll because of you and the discount they give you I've almost bought everything. Keep the videos coming. I'm always looking for more training software for the range.

@@JimboLogic lol Thanks Brother! I hope it helps you get better in your shooting journey and to have some fun while dry firing. I try to ekkp it geared on how you can use them to get better in shooting, and how to keep dry fire practice fresh and mixing things up. If you ever have any questions about anything, always feel free to ask.

@austinrogers3929. You can use the solid barn walls to make a floor plan, but other than an actual building not so much. Laser Ammo Tactical Target has pre made floor plans and random shoot no shoot targets that pop up, But If you wanted to create your own buildings, then only program I have seen that can do that is Shooting-Soft Pro Tactical Constructor, Which you can make your own or modify the ones they have created.

@@joemky I saw your review on the Shooting-Soft program. While it does look impressive, the $2290 price tag for outright purchase is pretty absurd.

@@austinrogers3929 Yeah it was more geared to Military and Police training so you know how their budgets go. Other than that one I haven't seen any other one that allows building like structures. The next best things is CSP for single floor plan like setups or LaserAmmo Tactical Targets, which even though it is static stages it does have different layouts and random target types that appear.

@@joemky Regarding target/barricade/object placement within the stage, is there any way to get a top down view with distance measurements? Kind of like a floor plan.

@@austinrogers3929 The only measurement done is between the way point/shooting position and the target. You would have to moved those to help measure the length of your structure then set them up for the width and then add the the width and repeat for each room. You can also use the existing Stage Boundary walls for half of the outside structure. The Stage size is roughly 93x93 ft.

@myre3766. I just tried it JOEMKY and it worked. Said I got 49.90 off on the competitive shooter pro

@@joemky promo code does not work for me...

@@myre3766 what are you trying to get? I tried JoeMKy without all caps and it worked with having competitive shooter pro only in the cart and it still worked.. I know if an item is already discounted then it won’t apply. @laserammousa - do you have any ideas?

@@myre3766 Hey there, the code is not case sensitive and should work on anything not alredy discounted, mags, cqb or shot body system. What were you trying to get? Happy to help - marketing at laserammo dot com or on IG or FB. Let us know how we can help.

@laserammousa. Thanks I hope they do

@shumardi1. Good Question. The Recoil Varies on Gun. The Glock 34 has a strong recoil, which feels like live ammo. The Sig Legion ( being a heaver pistol ) doesn't feel like a 22 But maybe like a low power 9mm, and the 1911 for 45, feels more like a 9mm. Granted as it starts to get low on co2, it does start to feel like a 22. I can experiment and try to get a video of the recoil on live and cool fire. I just need to figure out how to properly make it where there can be some sort of measurement in movement. Which I now have that marked down for a future video, so hopefully I can get that rolling.

@ee222 The Scholastic Action Shooting Program is like Steel Challenge, a set number of courses of fire to shoot, except that you have to be a student and participate in the Scholastic Shooting Program for your school, I believe it goes all the way to college level. Steel Challenge is for 9 and as old as you get were you can still shoot. Steel Challenge is also something you can look on practiscore to see if there is any matches near you for steel challenge. So the Steel Challenge is good of everyone and the Scholastic Action Shooting is good for students and coaches in that sport. And I don’t mind the questions, which is why i have comments open on the video :D.

@ee222. Yes they had have the option for moving dots to use in your training, but the rest are pretty much static. It's sort of pre programmed into there. Unless there is some magic to it I don't know about that you can make your own. But I haven't seen it.

Thanks

@ee222 - It kind of is, but it isn't. The Competitive Shooter Pro ( CSP ) is geared toward your action shooting sports, which stages you make and the targets are the same targets and position every time. The Tactical Targets, is kind of like the CSP, but the targets are random, so you can run through the same stage and the targets tend to change. Sometimes you have a lot of targets to shoot and sometimes you have less. Other than remembering the rooms in Tactical Targets, the Targets are usually different. in CSP, you can remember the layout as well as the type of targets that are available at each position. Scoring on CSP is a little more in-depth as well. Tactical Targets is something I still enjoy to run through while walking on a tread mill since the scoring area is a little more forgiving and most are the targets are closer than some of the ones I practice with in CSP. But if you wanted to use this for shoot house practice, it is pretty good since you have to quickly identify threats and non threat targets

@@joemky well, thanks alot! you just made me go from deciding on which one to wanting BOTH! ... joemky, you're not helping out my budget very well!! 😁 seriously though, you made some good points to consider. on a sidenote, since you seem to be very well versed in the smokeless range (as well as a couple of other DF systems), since i'm pretty well focused on getting the SR, but not able to afford the "diamond" package, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME (i realize that you're busy, so no problem if you don't want to answer this), do you have any recommendations as to what you think are the best modules to get and stay within, say a $3k range?

@@ee222 Happy to help out if I can. What are you practicing for? To be a better shooter in general? Are you a competition Shooter in USPSA IDPA or Steel Challenge, GSSF, shot sig, etc? Is this Practice for Law Enforcement or Military? Are you mostly shooting rifles or pistols?

​@@joemky "Happy to help out if I can. What are you practicing for? ..." mostly for self defense, but there's a little bit of "fun/arcade" (which the basic module already covers) and competition thrown in as well. ​ @joemky "...To be a better shooter in general? Are you a competition Shooter in USPSA IDPA or Steel Challenge, GSSF, shot sig, etc?..." definitely yes, to the 1st question. also, yes to the competition questions, but these would be secondary to the other questions. however, i'm not sure what "shot sig" is, so that might be a more interesting type of competition to me than the others. as for the 1st 2 competitions, from what i've researched, there seems to be a lot of similarities, so my guess is, when it comes for me to decide on one, i would probably lean towards the one that has more local live fire events. ​ @joemky "...Is this Practice for Law Enforcement or Military? ..." no, but i am interested in learning self defense for both myself and others if need be, so this would be the most important to me. ​ @joemky "... Are you mostly shooting rifles or pistols?" both, but mostly pistol.

@@ee222 Sorry that was a typo, shoot sig, which is like GSSF but with Sig Sauer pistols. Defensive pistol and general shooting. The Regular smokeless range has some good tools. Tactical Targets is also a good choice but even though the target placement is random, then stage layout isn't, If you are an IDPA Shooter, that will help with the defensive pistol and the Competitive Shooter Pro will Allow you to create IDPA Stages you find on the web, or encounter at IDPA Matches, also Create your own from your own imagination and create or follow stage descriptions which you can have concealment, mags on table, unloaded start, etc. I'm not I'm 100% sure on what packages are avaiable since Competitive Shoot Pro is very new. But you don't have to get everything all at once. You can get the Smokeless range and camera and add on things as you need them, plus they also allow 15 day evaluation of the other packages so you can try before you buy. @laserammo might be able to answer the questions on the packages a little better.

The 2024 annual USPSA magazine has a survey published from national for single stack and the top brands. Rock island isn’t one of them which I know John McClain runs for ss division. I was running the max michel 1911 which is a great pistol and usually the top shooter for a gun manufacturer has their own signature gun that they run.

Thanks, I heard good things about the vr systems, I just never had an interest in it. I like to use pistols that are or match the ones I use for matches. But the very systems are a smaller foot print then what I have been using, but for me the projector systems seem closer to what I want to train for, and even other systems where I have to run from room to room to engage targets. Home of the systems I mentions have improved since I made that video and some new ones have come out. It amazing how far everything has come when I first started dry fire practice back in 2008.

@ee222. Thanks yes there are moving targets and I have a part two on the editor coming out on Tuesday that shows how to link a pepper popper to activate a swinging target. And a few other things. And I can make a 3rd on the editor to show some other things plus add some movers and swingers if that sounds interesting to you?

@@joemky oh, ABSOLUTELY!! that would be great! not sure when i'll be able to get to it though as i went to your channel and found a treasure trove of great looking videos, so it might be awhile! 😁

@@ee222 thanks I hope you like the rest. It would be a few days till I create it and push it out. Maybe by next Friday it will be published and I eventually there will be a video of actually running through the simulator with some sort of laser pistol.

Thank you, and I'll send them as I find them 😁

@@joemky awesome!

Perfect! You showed me a few things I haven’t figured out on my own yet. Keep uploading! We run your stages quite a bit.

@@DavidSmith-hq5xx I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'm working on another one to show a little more on other things that wasn't covered in this video.

Thanks for letting me know. I’ll talk to CoolFire about it monday

Please fix the coupon code.😊

@@Dedstik I sent an email to my last contact and I’m waiting for a reply. But I’m working on it,

@NolanVanover - They say the code is still active and might not work on already discounted items. Other than that I have not heard back from them on any other update

@@Dedstik - - They say the code is still active and might not work on already discounted items. Other than that I have not heard back from them on any other update

The only Mantis product I have tried was the Blackbeard and like it, I didn't like the add on for the rail for the pistol since I would have to get a new holster from the look of it. And I haven't tried any of the Augmented Reality ( AR ) devices since I'm not a fan of goggle systems like that. Those kind of systems always gave me headaches. But if you like it and it works well for you that's good. Any that helps keep dry fire interesting and engaging is a good thing.

@joemky for the mantis, they sent a small pickatiny rail. So I used some double-sided tape and taped it to the bottom of a magazine. That way, I didn't have to get a different holster, and I could use the draw function on it. I'm not a fan of the other ar/vr games (I get sick), but the ace app I'm good with.

@@Ryuus1 I might have to check that out for the mantis. And it's good to know that the AR head set might now make me sick, but they will probably be further down the road since the cost of the headset and the year subscription for the app costs a bit. I still need to upgrade my projector to something better for the dry range I have not first. But I'll keep the Ace in mind for the future, thanks for letting me know on the Ace and Mantis!

I’ve played with it on a number of occasions and I did not notice any lag on sound and shot placement and the shot placements are exactly where i expected it to be. Which at first I was pretty leery on the setup with internet, the phone as the camera and the computer browser as the stage display. And I was mostly Leary about this because I’m out in the middle of no where with broad band internet for max download is 13-20mb upload is 5-9mb. But it handled all of it very well. I think If I was running satellite internet the results would be different because there was times i would get 36k to 10mb download, and I’m sure then there would be a lag. Remember the discount code in the video does give you a few weeks to try it out, and if you don’t just cancel your membership ship. The computer used isn’t a super fast gaming machines its just a regular little desktop and the phone was an iPhone SE, so I’m probably running the bare minimum of what most people have esp with internet.

I never tried the voice option since the little desktop that I use for the sims does not have a mic on it. I have changed the firearm to a rock launcher and went all Leroy Jenkins on stage. :D

@@joemky I haven't tried fiddling with it too much either. It would be cool if I could get it to work. Been spending most of my time building sets bank, gas station, church, cartel compound, military base. It been a lot of fun.

@@JimboLogic Good Yeah you really can go down a rabbit hole with when you are building stages to run through. It's nice not to be fully limited in when you can train with.

Yeah after a while I started to do that in the easy settings, then I moved it to hard and when I started to point shoot on that, I moved it back to easy and started making mistakes due to that point shooting habit of expecting more than one and end up shooting wrong targets, when it gets easy, switch it up., try the numbers settings too!

I was just playing around with my son. Next time I set it up I'll try the different settings.

It is and don't have to spend time setting up the stages

@@joemky just wait until Comp Shooter Pro comes out later this month. You are going to LOVE IT!

@@laserammousa I keep watching my email for a notification so I can jump on that

Thanks I've Enjoyed the product

Good Question, And compared to the the other cameras that I used ( cheaper ones ) it seems to shake less when I run, but there is still movement shown on camera. And there isn't any setting for Stabilize Video for the AimCam, but there is one in iMovie which I never played with. And I have only used these for shooting and not for any bike rides or any other activity so I can say how stable the video will be on any other activities other than running and gunning, which for that it works great and I'm sure they will do well for other activities I just never tried it for anything else.

The smokeless range use it's own camera system, but can be used with other systems, which I've shown in another video. Shooting-Soft, and iMarksman and iDryfire can use the same camera. But any of the laser ammo products that I shared all intergrate in the same interface which makes it easy to pick and choose. From this lineup smokeless range, laser ammo steel challenge, open range 2, IPSC competitive shooter, and zombie hunter form the games. The others ( imarksmand, iDryfire, and shooting-soft) are none centralized programs so you just find and click on the program link to run, which also allows you to use with the smokeless range since all these camera systems are the same in the fact that when the camera sees the laser, it performs a mouse click, which equals shot fired at xy location to track against the targets on the screen.

I forgot to add the the iDryfire App and the iShooter apps can use a Web Cam. They both have apps for the phone as well and dryfjireonline uses your phone camera

Kind of, I did a video on how you can use the others with laser ammo and laser ammo with the others. However if you want to smokeless range Interface you will have to use their Camera. iMarksman's camera is based off the ps eye 3 which you can get separate, but they modification takes out the microphone and the enclosure allows to be mounted on the tripod. So the iMarksman and Shooting soft can share the same camera, and laser ammo has their software program to work only with their camera.

I forgot to add the the iDryfire App and the iShooter apps can use a Web Cam. They both have apps for the phone as well and dryfjireonline uses your phone camera

@aaronh888 - Kind of yeah the url should have redirected to the GitHub, All the products was moved to Free to Use and Open Source at github.com/burnsoftnet did you need help with something. It wasn't even making enough to support itself after awhile so I just moved everything to open source and work on them here and there.

@@joemky thanks Joe, not sure why the redirect didn't work for me. I was just going to update some of my software, no reason in particular other than to get on the latest version.

@@aaronh888 Yeah if you go to the Github page and Repositories you can find the My Gun Collection and My Loader Log, and when you go into that section, there is a Releases link on the right, which if you click on the latest release, it will show you what was changed and the Installer file that you can download and run.

Thank you

@asdflucklawl - Sorry I haven't seen anything else that will work with their smokeless range setup unlike iMarksman and Shooting-Soft which their software works with other cameras. If I have the Laserammo camera unplugged but the other ones plugged in, it doesn't detect them. So far it seems like the smokeless range is married to the firmware of that Laserammo cameras. How much are they asking for a new camera replacement?

​@@joemkythey're asking $70-350 for a standard camera repair or up to $600 for short throw. Btw, are there any games I can play utilize the smokeless range system , just wondering 😅😅

@@asdflucklawl As far as games related to Smokeless Range, Games...they do have their alpha pack and and the free zombie and pumpkin hunter one, which I did due video's on those two and have a link the description to download them. Since you can still use other apps with the smokeless range by switching over and away from smokeless range, I marksman has a game pack and shooting-soft also has some games.

@@asdflucklawl as far as the camera - wow that a lot considering the base smokeless game setup can be a few hundred dollars more or even 600 for the short throw smokeless range. You can see if they have any remanufactured ones for sale. Other than that, You can always look into getting a ps3eye camera from amazon and using Shooting-Soft Cam Clicker. Then you just have to run their app to calibrate, and then run smokeless range run through the simulator and just skip using their cam setup. I did that prior to purchasing smokeless range which their camera and still do it. It's something I do all the time if I use another sim first and then finish off with smokeless range. But If I was just going to work in smokeless range I use their camera.

@@joemky sounds good, appreciate for the response