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BHP EEs at Cringila
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2012
- Some hectic steelworks shunting can be observed from the Cringila station foot bridge. The steelworks adopted English Electrics. D26 and D29 were built in 1960 and are 790hp. D34 was built in 1969 and is 1800hp. Today D26 is stored and D29 belongs to PN while D34 belongs to Blue Scope.
Nice mix of 8, 12 and 16 cyl engines. Lovely sounds.....
G'day Nigel,
Yes, I only wish that I had spent more time down there. Sadly, most of the steelworks EEs are now either kyboshed or out of action. At least I did get to experience the Tassie EEs from the footplate.
Steve.
OMG the sound! if I didn't know they aren't I'd say these are English class 37s and 20s .. superb sound
I remember those donks before that they had small steam that all had names good work on the video
G'day Robert, I heard English Electrics when a child in Brissy, but didn't know what they were. AIS / BHP steelworks Port Kembla was the only spot in NSW to find them. They do have a nice chortle. Sadly, only a handful remain today at the steelworks. I have not been there in a very long time.
Just amazing moments
From 🇮🇳 west bengal state
I remember shunting lysarts Wolli Creek port yard and taking coal trains to the loader
G'day Robert, taking a 4200 tonner coalie into Cringila exchange sidings with quad 82 class was interesting. Only a couple of roads were long enough to fit each half of the train. Take the wrong road and you were in trouble. Also, not much spare room up the neck either when running around with the quad 82s. The place would be far less interesting now days minus most of the EEs.
real loco sounds. the turbo whistle on the slag train, "awesome"
Memories for me!
I used to shunt in the 70s D42.
Then become a driver. Front yard driver D17. Also shunted 2and3 Blast Furnaces.
Great video.
My father Maurie Jeffriess drove most of these diesels
They sound absolutely magical
this is a sweet video i live in thirroul which is close to cringilla i love all the action we see along the south coast line (usually 82 class coal drags) but this sort of old footage is priceless
I was just finishing high school in 1993. I had the fortune to be able to go to work with my Dad who was a Train Driver with Queensland Rail on the Pommies similar to these. It saddens me to realise just how much manufacturing and heavy industry along with the Railways that supported it, that we have lost. I wonder if this Pandemic will be the wake up call to bring back some of it??
G'day Adrian,
My QR childhood memories are limited, as I didn't know what the difference between various diesels was back then.
Plus, heaps of soot belchers were still stomping through Brissy.
I do remember being at Redbank Museum back in the late 1980s and hearing what must have been a 2350 class EE.
By that stage, I definitely knew the difference, having spent many years belting around in the cabs of NSW Alcos.
A shame that the QR neglected Alco for their fleet.
I was also fortunate that the QR 1620 class still percolated by the time that I acquired a video camera.
And, a trek to Van Diemens Land in the early 1990s also permitted me to take pot shots of the exiled QR EEs.
Then, from 2004, when I was exiled to Tassie, I got to drive the things.
Sadly, I doubt that this terrible virus will result in the restoration of Aussie heavy industry.
Importing steel, etc will still be much cheaper than producing it all here.
And, for us to continue exporting coal, ore and farming produce, we must naturally accept the imports.
But, as with WW2, a plethora of small industry was created here, due to the problems with sea transport.
Alas, I doubt that any smart tvs will ever be fully manufactured here.
And, the plethora of regional pas trains are not likely to ever reappear.
We are all too happy in our cars, or flapping around in the clouds at speeds much higher than any metal wheels.
Steve.
@@aussiealco Hi Steve.I guess you're right, wishful thinking on my part. I nearly came to Tazrail in 2012, but end up getting into QR Heritage in Brisbane and finally got to Drive class leader 1620 in my own right, even though I got plenty of drives with Dad growing up in Gympie,Cloncurry and Coppabella. We had the Yank 1150 GE's in the Curry in 1983 along with various pommies. When I join QR in 2000 I end up working 2800, 2600 GE's, then 4000 class clydes as well as all the remaining classes. Missed qualifying on the old 1502 clydes by 2 weeks when I was doing driver's school in 2002. I have some footage on my channel if you're interested. Cheers mate
G'day Adrian,
Yes, I will check out your You Tube channel when the local library reopens after this crisis.
I am not able to view or download large data files like video on me el cheapo home www.
My footplate career ended in the second half of 2007 when I escaped from Tassie.
A number of others also abandoned ship.
I was a member of Zig Zag for many years, but did not participate in any crew roles.
The Mary Valley mob at Gympie being a sister society, I did visit Gympie a couple of times.
I did work a couple of LVR tour trains, diesels, when asked.
And, in 1991, the loco inspector volunteered me to swing the banjo on soot belcher 3112.
We only had the 73 class cats with the air throttle.
So, I did find the EEs in Tassie a tad odd at first.
Though the Y class had a notched throttle.
Plus, I was used to the four pipe westinghouse in multiple unit.
I believe that Tasrail are now all four pipe, having converted the remaining three pipe units when the TR class appeared.
I don't think that you missed much with the 1502 class things.
The DQ class rebuilds were hideous, cab noise wise, and regularly spat out the water inside Rhyndaston tunnel.
I didn't mind the pair of D class, but they constantly suffered earth faults due to having EE traction motors under them.
I remember squizzing them MKA things at Gympie, little did I know at the time that they would end up in Tassie.
I went through Cloncurry when aiming at the Gulf in 2006 and espied a 2800 class.
But, only espied a quad lashup of 2600s at Townsville many moons ago.
It has been a long time since I was last north of the border.
When you lot reopen the border, and if petrol remains cheap, I might hafta make a sprint up there.
Check out one of me regular haunts, Denison Street, Rocky.
I lobbed into Rocky one time and hunted for a motel.
The bloke behind the counter was looking at me strange.
He said, I think that I know you, you are at LMC Lithgow.
Turned out that he was a redundant chargeman from Delec in Sydney, and he had recognized me voice.
He had decided to move north and buy a motel with his redundancy payment.
I forget which motel that was now and the blokes name.
Had a similar situation up in Kuranda one time.
I was enjoying a quiet ale with the QR crew at the Bottom Pub, when a bunch of Eveleigh drivers burst in.
They were on some alcoholic boat cruise and chose the Kuranda train as a day excursion.
E Gads, that was the end of the quiet ale, a couple of them recognized me.
Steve.
D25 sounds just like a British Rail Class 20, also and early EE.
G'day Tom,
The AIS (BHP) Steelworks at Port Kembla was the only place to earwig EEs here in NSW.
But, all other state rail networks down-under did possess some EEs.
Steve.
D26 appears to have an EE 16SVT in her. Check out class 40 and you'll recognise the sound. Exhausts at either end of the engine suggest 4'turbos.......
There is still one, possibly 2 still operating at the port Kembla works. Mainly flat products and hot rolling mills area. Next time I see it, I will get some more info. D35 rings a bell for some reason.
D27 I think it is actually
G'day Zak,
Been a long time since I was last down in the Port Kembla region.
I lost interest especially when the 81 class (YAWN) went belting around the steel works.
So, it would be good to know just how many of the old EEs still do battle.
I don't know if there is still public access permitted to the footbridge at Cringila.
That was the easiest spot to watch the EE action.
Steve.
aussiealco D27 still works daily moving finished steel coils and plates. I will look out for the other original EE still operating and gets its number etc
Ah ok, thanx Zak.
Did you ever pilot the ex-NZR DQ and lone DC class while you were working for TasRail?
G'day Reflex,
Yes, I did work the DQ class in Tassie. The sole DC was by then stored out of service at East Tamar. The pair of ex Sandgroper D class, also via Hutt NZ, did suffer some problems. Mostly due to having EE traction motors and not EMD motors under them. The three QR class were in woeful condition and only utilized as slugs. The DQ things suffered from hot engine dramas ascending the long 1 in 40 through Rhyndaston tunnel. They would spit out the water and shut down. If you stalled as a result, you could set back to the south portal, let them cool down and hopefully restart em to have another go. However, when all four units shut down inside the tunnel one shift, the train could naturally not set back. The driver abandoning ship in the swirling exhaust fumes. From then on we had to carry a WW2 style respirator. The DQ things were also VERY noisy in the cab, and we were required to wear hearing protection. Steve.
aussiealco Cheers I'd heard they were for lack of a better word, rubbish. Our drivers hated them as well and they avoided them where possible, and they liked to shit generators quite a bit
So I,m guessing the smaller locos are what we in England would know as a class 20 (v8, 1000 bhp), while the larger D34 would be a class 37, (v12, 1750 bhp)...
john smith G'day John, I don't know much about the EEs used by AIS. The only EEs that I have experience with are those that were on the loco roster of PN Tasrail when I transferred down there in 2004. The Y class 6SRKT 800 hp, Z class 12CSVT mk 2 1800 hp and ZA 12CSVT mk 3 2350 hp (downrated to 1800), were those built for TGR and have Davies Metcalfe brake valve. The EEs from QR, being identical to Z and ZA except for Westinghouse brake valve. There were also rebuilds, the ZP and ZR (both ex QR 2350 class) and MKA ex ZC from QR. These have dual control voltage. Steve.
Thanks for that. You should check out the English ones on you tube, they sound awesome when being worked hard!
I watched your video and, as soon as the noise kicked in, I recognised them as UK locos. Even after watching it and knowing it was in Australia, I listened to it again (replayed it with my eyes closed :-) ), The first loco sounds like a Class 37, the second like a Class 20.
What a great sound.
Shame PN is so anti history.