I was 13 years old, working in an auto junkyard. The owner let me ride to town with him one evening in his '70 LS6 Chevelle. We'll just say that he was in a bit of a hurry. Living in the hills of West Virginia with some of the twistiest roads you can imagine. It was a thrill to say the least.
@iitywybmad29 - tossing a '70 Chevelle through mountain roads is a hoot. Two cousins and two of my friends had '70/71 Chevelles. All but one of them were small block cars. The other was an LS5 (hydraulic cam, and 30 less horsepower, as I recall).
This is only 1970 muscle cars.hard to believe Chevelle SS 454 go 13.12 sec 1/4 miles????.1969 Dodge charger stock 426 hemi still beat Chevelle SS 454??????.
My dad had a 69 Plymouth GTX with the 440 super commmando that ran 12’s at Detroit drag way back then! His best run ever was 11.11 126mph, but that was with slicks! He said he could outrun the hemis in the 1/4 but soon as they got beyond the 1/4 the hemi’s just took off having a crazy top end! But that low gear and toques made this GTX a fast car!
"With slicks ..." HaHa. Yeah, I'll bet it was ... and a helluva lot lot more. 12's, 11's, 10's or whatever ... all it takes is $$$ and a little applied sense.
Growing up, the guy that lived across the road was a hot rodder. He built street rods and drove a '69 Charger RT 440. That was my first ride in a Muscle car. Later that year a high school buddy was diving a brand new '70 340 Challenger. I was hooked and own many fast cars today.
example, J10 401 full time 4wd with Borg Warner auto slightly built woud just smear most stoplight to stoplight etc. Could get into Javelins,Gremlins .
@brendaandjohn1416 - I wish I could remember the years... but a dealership in Ohio had two AMCs I lusted over in the early 2000s. One was an unmolested Rebel ST with (I think) less than 40k original miles. It was nearly mint.
@@PistonTrends I had the chance to buy a 1970 hemi cuda all original for $8,000 the guy was a quadriplegic, and a drag strip racer. Hit a wall in his other car and it paralyzed him from the neck down. He only wanted $8,000 for that car and that was 15 years ago and I was young and broke and couldn't afford to come up with the $8,000!!😭😭
My father and my uncle worked as mechanics at a Pontiac dealer. My father drag raced semi-pro. My father ordered a new 1970 Ram Air IV GTO, with his employee discount. Some weeks later Pontiac called him and told him the Ram Air IV was no longer available that late in the model year in the GTO, even though it was still available in the 1970 Firebird. They offered him a 455 GTO for the same price. Between my father and dealer making some connections at Pontiac, they agreed to "hand assemble" one last 1970 Ram Air IV GTO for his order. That was likely the last Ram Air IV GTO that was made. The remaining Ram Air IV engines for the GTO were used in 1970 Firebirds. The 1970 Ram Air IV Firebirds got GTO engines and not Firebird specific engines. The reason they stopped making RAIV GTO's, was to use the rest of the engines in Firebirds. The 1969 RAIV Firebirds got Firebird specific engines, but not the 1970 Firebirds, which got the remaining GTO specific engines, late in the model year. Due to my father's GTO, there was one less 1970 RAIV Firebird.
@@PistonTrends No it is long gone. He started drag racing in the 1950's, with the big names, before they were big names. His first new race car was a 1962 421 Super Duty car, then he put that 421 or part of that 421 in a new 1965 GTO, then in a new 1968 Firebird, then in the 1970 GTO and finally he went back to the 1968 Firebird, which he raced until 1980. He had changed engine blocks and custom racing pistons, RAIV cylinder heads and a final port matched Holley intake manifold, with the 1962 421 Super Duty crankshaft and connecting rods, I think. His last 2 or 3 seasons, he switched from a 4 speed to automatic for bracket racing. He stopped racing in 1980, because the fiberglass racing seat, even with padding, bothered the veins in his legs, when he had to sit for long periods at the track. When he went back to the 1968 Firebird, he sold the 1970 RAIV GTO, because the Firebird was lighter weight and faster. He did switch from the ported 421 SD heads to the ported RAIV heads in 1970 and the two cars required different custom headers for those heads. I still have the 1970 RAIV intake manifold, that was milled down to fit the milled down heads, before he switched to the Holley Street Dominator intake manifold. Before the RAIV intake, he ran the 421 SD intake and carbs and on the Holley intake he ran an 850 Holley, which was his final setup.
So what was the difference between a RA !V engine for the Firebird vs. a RA IV engine for the GTO? So what entailed a "Firebird specific engine" as you put it? An old time Pontiac racer here in Jacksonville, FL maintains that there was no difference. He also claimed when his 1970 Orbit Orange GTO RA IV Judge was brand new, the only street race he lost was to an equally stock 1970 GS Stage 1sold through Key Buick in Jax FL. . When I say "equally stock" they both had headers, and that was it. Both cars were just two weeks old at the time. That's not to say that he raced every other "stock" musclecar in Jax ... but still.
@@LR-my2di Before 1970, the Firebird coded 400's were different from similar GTO engines for the same year. 1969 had the biggest differences, but rumor is that many 1969 Firebird 400 engines are actually GTO coded engines, even though the service manuals and parts say they aren't supposed to be the same. The Firebird 400's got different carbs and different exhaust manifolds from 67 through 69. The Ram Air III was a GTO only only engine in 69, while the similar, but slightly different engine in the Firebird was called a 400 HO for 69. The Firebird did get the Ram Air III in 70 and 70 and newer Firebird 400's got GTO exhaust manifolds. For 69 the camshafts were different, as were the valve springs, depending on the camshaft used. For 1970 there were no Firebird coded Ram Air IV engines, as all 70 Ram Air IV engines were GTO coded.The 69 Ram Air III engine got special valve springs that were heavier than 428 HO springs, but not as tall as 68 Ram Air springs. The manuals got Ram Air camshafts and auto's got HO cams. Both with the same RAIII springs. The Firebird 400 HO got RAIII springs with an HO cam in manuals and got standard performance springs with a standard performance manual trans cam in automatic Firebird 400 HO's, for 69. The RAIII GTO got RA exhaust manifolds from the 67 RA GTO, while the 69 400HO Firebird got 428 HO exhaust manifolds.Later in 69, all RAIIi GTO's got the HO cam instead of the RA cam, but still had the special RAIII valve springs. The distributor gears materials were different between 69 GTO RAIII and the 69 Firebird 400HO, in the automatic Firebirds. The Firebird did get the RAIII engine for 1970. In the late 1970's, I ordered from Pontiac, a standard valve spring, an HO valve spring and a RAIII valve spring and they all three had different parts numbers, but the springs registered exactly the same on a valve spring tester. The service replace springs were all the same spring, by the late 70's. Even though the part numbers and specs were different, they all tested as standard performance springs, for replacement in the late 70's. Some 69 GTO RAIII engines have 4 bolt mains and some do not. I'm not sure any 69 Firebird 400HO engines have 4 bolt mains, because the onesI've seen have all been two bolt main engines.
You got your Boss 429 times wrong. The 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429 can run a quarter mile in under 14 seconds with stock parts, and in the 12s with minor modifications. Audrain Auto Museum lists the quarter mile time as 13.6 seconds, while a 1970 Boss 429 dragstrip survivor ran a quarter mile in 11.79 seconds. .
Every, and I mean EVERY manufacturer was sending ringers to get tested by Auto Magazine's back then. 99% of posted et's & speeds in those said Magazine's were also corrected to "sea level" numbers.
I had a white 1969 Boss 429. In 1971 at the Gainesville Raceway, which had just opened. it ran a best of 13.56/103.74 mph on the just released stock F60-15 Goodyears. That was all she had pure stock on the best launch of the day.
Definitely agree, I'm Ford through and through, 70 Torino Cobra my favorite, and 71 Boss 351, and 71 Mach 1 with 429 SCJ, my #2 and #3, But those 455 Stage 1 Buicks were Insane Fast, probably the one GM car that i really respect 70 GS or GSX 455 Stage 1.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 Agreed! And I owned a sleeper ''71 Torino/370 hp w.3.50 gears and the specially jetted and factory modded Rochester Q-Jet carb. .
I have owned several of these famous 70's muscle cars over the years..1970 Dodge Challenger R/T 440-6 4 speed, 1971 426 Hemi Cuda 4 speed, 1970 Chevelle SS454 LS-6 4 speed, 1970 Olds 442 W-30 4 speed, 1971 Olds 442 W30 4 speed, 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 which I still own today. The quickest and strongest of that group was and is the Buick GS 455 Stage 1 followed by the Chevelle SS454 LS-6. Back in 1974 I ran 12.40 at Detroit Dragway with the Chevelle LS-6 with headers and slicks otherwise stock. My 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 has run low 11's with it's original Stage 1 engine (not stock) and 400 Turbo trans but both have been modified and improved over the years . This Stage 1 is a monster with mind bending bottom end torque.
@@danpietz6566 The GSX was not any quicker than a stage 1 GS.. Neither would run low 12's high 11's with today's tires stock..Low 12's high 11's requires headers, cam, and head porting
In the early '80s I stuffed an LS6 motor into a '70 Nova SS and ran 11.90s at the track (no mods to the motor, just ran it on slicks!). Had a turbo 400 transferring to a Dana 60 with 4.10 gears.
Impossible that the 70 Nova SS with a stock LS-6 with just slicks would run 10.90's Might run 11.90's possibly..My 70 Chevelle SS 454 LS-6 with headers and slicks ran 12.40's back in 1974 albeit in a heavier car (by 400+ lbs) than the Nova SS
🦬💩 Didn't happen dude. Even a Motion car wouldn't run that tight without some major changes to an L72 or an LS6. The ZL1 Dick Harrell wrenched had a major gear change, Camshaft and Tunnel Ram with 2 Carburetors to break into the 10s on huge Slicks in a lightened Camaro. An LS6 with staggered jetting and headers would knock on 500 flywheel hp. In a Nova with Big Block stock was 3400 lbs. That computes in a perfect World to an 11.47 @ 124 mph 1/4 mile. I'll take 12.0s because few guys took the time to stay on the carb and suspension Tune to run consistent back then. BTW, it would take 575-600 Flywheel HP to run a 10.97. An LS6 as delivered wouldn't ever get there. Maybe you can sing a few bars of "Somewhere over the Rainbow".
I was always a GM guy my first car was a 67 Camaro with the RS hide away lights. Friends had Mustangs a few Chevelle's. I have to say my favorite especially for 1970, The Buick GSX in Saturn Yellow. Just a beautiful car. On the other hand is there a "wrong answer"? I'll take anyone shown here in my garage.
Well, the 70 Torino Cobra was good for a 13.99 ET not the ET you reported, also during the Boss 429 sequence, you showed a Windsor small block along with the Boss 429 while talking about the Boss 429.
Those 1/4 times on every car listed could vary up to 2 seconds in either direction. So many factors. I remember an ex girlfriends brother win the winternationals with a 70 396 nova just with minor modifications. Another person I knew had a 70 428cj Mustang that ran hi 11's low 12's just with a tune, headers and slicks. The Boss 429 got a bad rap because it was not only detuned for the street but was geared for NASCAR, it wasn't setup for drag racing. But if you did I have seen them run 9- 10 sec 1/4. Myself had a bone stock 70 Mustang coupe with a 351ho cleaveland all I did was put on a holley carb and tune it, it ran a 13.80 with g 60 tires.
Actually, the 429 Boss Mustangs had factory 3.91 gears, and NO ... those were certainly not NASCAR gears. The Boss 429 had the right gearing for street.strip drags! It's just that the Buick GS Stage 1's could kick their hi-$$$ asses.
1968.5 Cobra-Jet Mustang - Motor Trend clocked 13.54 in the 1/4 (Mag Headline:" Fastest Pure Stocker in the History of Man"). With Cassler cheater slicks, I ran 13.24/105 at Irwindale in the 1/4...bone stock save the tires.
The engine indeed was supposed to be "bone stock", but it also did have Doug Thorley 1 7/8" primary 2-piece headers, I've got that old MT magazine and article, Larry Rose
As a youmg kid, I was fortunate to be around a bunch of cool hotrods. My dads pals would come by amd man was it exciting. Built 400 69 firebird, BB 71 Nova, a cool red Vega and several others. I remember hearing those things come down the block, especially the ones with gear drives. 🔥🤙
According to a now-deceased but prominent musclecar guru of those days, the factory car was thoroughly "gone over" and very well-tuned by Al Kirchenbaum of Rockville Centre Dodge in Rockville Centre, NY. Many factory Mopars were sent there before magazines tested them. That was also noted. That car also had a unreported 4.10 gear set and a lot of time testing at the strip on "slightly wider" than factory tires. This was all in the Sept. 1971 issue on pages 47- 49 of the Sept. 1971 east coast CARS magazine. The author was giving examples of how some magazines of the day fudged things and didn't report them! As a MOPAR guy, I still have that issue.
70 chevelle with the LS6 454 was the only year GM put more horse power in a car that wasn't a vette, thats one of many reasons why that car was so special
Would love to have one but no room. His inspiration lives on though. Have a Camaro zl1. It’s more than a handful as I have done some work to it. Just as my father taught me.
When I was 18 my Brother came home from the Army and bought a 67 Plymouth GTX 440 automatic. Bone stock he turned 14.01 @ 105 mph and won trophy in his class at drag races. He never lost a race to a Ponticac GTO so the numbers they are showing are not what I observed back in the day. Most muscle cars ran 14 and 15 second quarter miles when bone stock. If you ran 13's back then with a stock unmodified car, you had a fast car! Side note: My first car was a 72 Dodge Demon 340 and I raced several GTO's and always beat them. The GTO was always overrated. Beautiful cars, but not as fast as many others. I would suspect that some of these times they are quoting are from cars that had headers and some slight modifications from factory stock.
GTOs were over-rated? Nobody ever insisted GTOs were the fastest cars built. But they were trend setters, and Pontiac had the forethought to offer cars optioned any way you wanted it. So you could order a Goat with a turgid 2 speed, mild V-8, air conditioning and hi-way gears that barely performed better than any LeMans. And of course, that's where lots of people compare other cars to GTOs as this. But there were many up-grades that would make them perform with most of the other cars of the time. A 67 GTO, with a RA 400, Muncie, and 3.90s would run easily with your 440 hydraulic transmission mopar. And with "minor" up-grades such as tuning, hedders, and better tires, they definitely kept up with the rest. Which is what most gearheads did with those cars. Even class racing allowed such modifications, and GTOs were competitive, in their classes. And the 340s were also a good running eng., but were put in lighter cars, than the GTOs. When I competed in class racing, (F/S, IHRA) 340 dusters were in the GTOs class, because power to weight was similar. And those Mopars ran well, but the Goats would keep up, and sometimes win. Depends on all factors considered when drag racing.
yeah, yeah, yeah, you always won every race. sounds like you're the first-place douche as every manufacturer got involved after the GTO. small mindedness is a terrible disease.
I bought a 71 cutlass supreme from my good friend in highschool and me and my cousin did alot of work to it and I took it to the atco speedway in Atco new jersey and it ran low 12's in the 1/4 mile and I absolutely loved it ❤️😎👍, and ever since then I have been hooked on cuttlass's.
I grew up in this era and drove most every muscle car on this list. The big problem with many of these was many who bought them didn’t know how to drive them so the potential was out the window. I did a huge amount of street racing during that era and I can’t tell you how many of these cars I outran with an old 65 Ford Galaxie with a stock 428 which wasn’t a Cobra Jet and it was a 14.30 car at 99 MPH. If I saw one of these cars come into the drive inn restaurant where all us gear heads hung out with a dealer tag you can bet we were all over it. You couldn’t get through the drive inn without at least 5 different people asking you to race. The real bread and butter races were the Mopars. Especially the Roadrunners. I raced so many of them and yes Hemi powered ones too. The first street race I had with that old Ford was a friends Hemi 70 Super Bee. He was so mad he lost. The car didn’t lose he did because he didn’t know how to drive it. With street tires of the day you couldn’t just floor them from the start they would burn the tires off. That’s were they would lose. Once in a while there would be the guy who knew how to drive them but even then they had real problems getting them to get traction. It was a great time and so much fun. I went to the drag strips a lot and learned how quick those cars were with a average driver so I pretty much knew what to expect. Most of them with a average driver 14 second 1/4 miles was about the best you would see. Remember in those days no traction control. Crappy tires. No rev limiters or two step launch. Many of them were geared high with single track rearends so they weren’t 1/4 mile beast. The cars with 4 speed standard transmissions were even harder to drive so it made it even easier to beat them with a average driver. On slick asphalt roads we raced on made them even worse. The times in this video are in exceptional conditions with skilled drivers.
Back in the early 1980's when Hot Rod magazine was going strong, and when you could actually call and speak to a magazine editor, HR editor John Diana told me that in the 1960's and 1970's, both Car Craft and Hot Rod tested the exact same factory supplied musclecars (one word). Since all pictures of such tests were b&w, no-one ever bothered to question that fact. However, Hot Rod got to test the two cars first since it was Peterson's premier automotive magazine. Car Craft tested the same car afterwards, but ALWAYS was allowed to post a quicker e.t. than found in HR Otherwise, readers wouldn't bother to read the CC test of the same model (while also not realizing that it was indeed the same car HR tested!)! The example he used for this charade was the test of the 1970 LS6 Chevelle found in both HR and CC. . It legitimately ran 13.80 for HR yet months later Car Craft had it running *supposed* 13-teens in their magazine. And check it out ... that time was noted in this video! It was a bogus "test", claimed Dianna. I asked him "how could that be?". He replied "the CCF!" I asked him "what did that mean?". He replied "California Correction Factor!" He added "We had to give the readers something that made them want to buy our magazines. It was for the same reason that you never saw a Buick on the cover of either magazine.". He continued: "For example, that GS Stage 1 was a great musclecar, but really, how many readers owned one or even knew about them." Now you know the rest of the story! Larry Rose
A rare and relatively unknown muscle car that could beat most big block cars in that era as the 1968 Dodge Dart GTS with a 383 in it. Was the best bang for your buck back in the day - run low 14's all day long
Back in the 1970's, my friends had all these cars you are profiling.There is one car you did forget. I had one , and had no problem dusting off all those cars my friends had.That car was a 1974 Trans Am SD 455. It was rated at 360 HP with 500 torque. In actuality the motor was dynoed at 500 HP!
The fact is the Pontiac Super Duty 455 engines from 1973 & 1974 (specifically the heads) were derived from the 1969-1970 Ram Air 4 "round port" intake & exhaust design. (Also the 1968 "Ram Air 2" heads were also round port, as well as the 1963 & 1964 SD421 engines were round port too). They flowed very well. The 1970 400cid Ram Air 4 engine was rated at a very conservative 370hp & only 4hp more than the Ram Air 3 400s of the same year! A properly tuned bone stock RA4 400 cranked out an easy 450hp, if not closer to 500hp (putting down at least 400hp to the tires. Lack of traction was an issue.). Now, back to the '73 & '74 SD455. Pontiac rated it at 290hp, or 310hp depending on who you ask but in reality that beast was basically a detuned race engine (the compression was only 8.5:1 in '73 & '74) putting out at LEAST 350hp. Anyone who doesn't believe me go find an SD455 Trans Am or Firebird Formula owner & talk him or her into taking you for a ride. When I was in my 20s I was fortunate enough to go for a ride in a '73 red/white interior SD455 with automatic T/A. That was a legit "$100 bill" car!. Meaning if there was a $100 bill taped to the dash & I could grab it while under hard acceleration I could keep it. No freakin' way! I was pinned to the seat & the driver said he was only at 2/3 throttle to keep the tires from going up in smoke. The brutal acceleration of that SD455 Trans Am is something I will never forget. One of the faster '70s. musclecars I've experienced.) Or, just watch the Pure Stock Drags or F.A.S.T. class 1/4mile drags on UA-cam & watch these cars run the 1/4 mile. Especially watch that green on green 1968 Firebird 400 RA2 car in the FAST class (Factory Appearing Stock Tire) run in the 10s at over 130mph!!! On bias ply radials no less!!!
@@robertbisson9499lol. You're a bit delusional, but keep thinking those thoughts. The 455 SD's were hitting mid 13's @ 103-104 per numerous Magazine tests back in the day. The "gross hp" numbers got corrected in '72 to "net hp" numbers, which netted them a legit 315 hp in '73.
Why no small blocks. There was a story were Ronnie Sox drove a 68 Barracuda 340 4sd tuned with headers to a best of 13.3 I'm sure other small blocks had close times...
Because the list is BS. Do serious research from 1970, when straight from the factory cars were tested by reliable groups/ magazines. This post put the Boss 429 at #10, which is pure BS, it was in the top 3. '70 Hemicuda, Boss 9, Buick GNX, all within a razors edge of each other. The boss 9 was the ONLY Ford in the top 10
These numbers are "show room new" numbers. Street hemis were MAJORLY under-tuned for the street. The hallowed lore of the street hemi has to do with how small "day 2" modifications could awaken the beast within. Full-length headers alone was a huge improvement. Very few hemi cars stayed in Day 1 configuration.
Where did they get these numbers? The Buick GS455 Stage 1 was the fastest 1/4 mile (showroom stock). It held the record until they released the Grand National, and then the GNX.
@mikedownload4029 - the GNX tied the top contenders for 0-60 (4.9sec) until 1990, and held the fastest 1/4 mile for two years at 12.7 until 1989... at least for the NA market, imports included. I'm sure there were contenders elsewhere, which weren't restricted by our emissions standards.
@@driverjamescopeland Google Porsche 959. Launched in 1986 and run through 1993 I believe. From 1986-89, it was the world's quickest production car 0-60, 1/4 and top speed. In 1989, the Ferrari F40 took over the 1/4 mile and top speed record, but the 959 retained the 0-60 record. That 959 would annihilate a GNX from launch until it ran out of fuel.
@@driverjamescopeland This is what Car & Driver said about the 959 back in 1987. "Power and speed are the core of the 959's excellence. With rocket-sled acceleration and the highest top end we've ever measured, the 959 stands alone at the pinnacle of production-car performance. If that sounds like hyperbole, how does a 0-to-60-mph time of 3.6 seconds strike you? Or 100 mph from rest in a mere 8.8 seconds, 120 mph in 12.4 seconds, and 140 mph in a tick less than 20 seconds? The 959 devours the standing quarter-mile in twelve seconds flat, with a terminal speed of 116 mph."
@@driverjamescopeland That GNX held American production car records, but NEVER held any world production car records. And by the way, that 12.0 second 1/4 mile that Car & Driver ran is the slowest time I've seen for that car. The official number was 11.8 seconds.
Then along came Bill Grumpy Jenkins,, 1967, A/S Nova that propelled Jenkins to fortune and fame running a 327ci, 350hp L-79 small block (with and estimated 420hp after Grump's massaging), 4-speed against the Dodge and Plymouth 426ci Hemis, setting a class record of 11.66,
Maybe but the bang for the buck was much better in the 60's and then there was the malaise era for about 15 years. These cars ruled for 30 years and then some.
@@turbo8454 Some of the sources for times are from magazines that make some tweaks before testing. For more realistic times search Internet for Car Life Road Test Summary. That mag tested cars just as they received them from manufactures' test fleets (which, in many cases, were optimized before getting to testers hands).
These times could be really improved with a proper engine tune and some decent drag racing tires on the rear. Of course with a decent gear ratio in the rear end like 411 or 431 gears
Cat and Driver was an interesting source for acceleration numbers. Hemi Cuda was a 13.5 car and the Chevelle SS at 13.8 car. The real equalizer is the tire. Radials were not popular until late 70s. I think Goodyear started making them in mass quantities in 1977. Plymouth and Dodge make the Race Hemi in '68 but equiped the car with skinny tires because they knew that racers would swap in slicks - so why waste the customer's money? If you want to get an idea on how fast these cars could be - take a look at NHRA stock eliminator. Keep in mind these are engines that are on the extreme end of blue printing and have headers + radical camshaft (stock block, heads, intake, carb etc. on a nearly stock chassis). There is some pure stock racing classes (see youtube for videos).
Honestly the fastest car i remember from the 70s were the chargers and my buddies 79 trans am 6.6 litre. Pretty close between the two. The one charger was called a honeybee. Other was an rt
You kept showing a 1969 Boss 429, not a 70 model, and you also slipped in a Small Block Ford shot, Definitely not no Boss 429 engine with the chrome valve covers. And when you said the All Mighty Hemi engine in the GTX, you showed a Big Block Wedge, probably a 440, Not No Hemi, C'mon man.
I believe that Boss Mustang you were showing is a 69. Body looked like the 69 428 SCJR I had back in the. Remember 69s having 4 headlights and fake air scoop on the rear quarter. Still enjoyed the video you put together. The quickest probably 69 and before???
FYI, many of your video clips don't match the narration. But that aside I'd like to see the same type of comparison with the same cars, a tune, open headers and slicks.
Nobody taking old bias ply tires into account. Put today’s tires on these cars and they’d run faster. Some people are saying you could say that for today’s cars… no you can’t today’s tires is all we have. When they come out with better tires then put them on today’s cars and also muscle cars. Horsepower is horsepower, traction is traction. Weight would be the defining factor.
@@chuckselvage3157 Yep, and in C/SA form they hit 10.90s and so they put 500 lbs on them to get them down to 11:20. I know a couple brothers who had a C/SA car running 10.50s , iron intake and they carried the front tires a ways.
I’m cheating by a year but the ‘71 only Boss 351 Mustang might have been the most underrated of the bunch. Doubly so when you consider it was only 5.8 liters.
Newsflash people , most of the 1/4 mile times recorded back in the day by the magazines are bogus . Consider this , who stood to gain by having the fastest cars ? Who supplied the cars to the magazines ? Who tended to cheat big time ? One answer covers all three questions , the factories did . They used to build stripped to no creature comfort option cars , then have their engineers super tune them , before sending them out to the magazines to road test . Several magazines even tested the same car . Now maybe you know why the. new car your older brother or uncle ordered brand new , wasn't as fast as the one that was tested in Hot Dawg Magazine .
Folks don't wanna be fed the truth, it makes those awesome memories fade, lol. I'm 59 years old, I like to deal with reality. As you mentioned, EVERY manufacturer sent "ringers" to be tested by Magazines. Pull those old cars out and a 4 banger Subaru sti or Honda Civic Type-R will give them a wake-up call.
Not every GTO tested by magazines had what they thought under the hood. Some cars had 421s in place of 389s or 428s instead of 400s. It wasn't only Pontiac doing this.
@basilcarroll9729 probably the most infamous incidence of this was pulled on Hot Rod Magazine in early 1967 . They had gotten their hands on a Bolero Red , SS396 Camaro , one of the first ones ever built . After testing it , they got the bright idea to enter it at the Winternationals , so they sent the car out to have the engine balanced and freshened , and the car race prepped . At the track they ended up in Super Stock /C class running against Bill Jenkins . After beating the Grump and several others , the guy that had worked on the car showed up in their pit , and asked them " just what the he'll they were doing ?" Turns out he didn't have time to freshen the 396 that was in the car , so he had installed one of his stroker big blocks in the car , a 481 cubic inch monster . They pulled the car from competition, but the NHRA wouldn't reinstate the cars they had beaten . The car ended up at Edelbrock , being used as a test car for their new products . They restored it several years ago .
Make up a top speed for muscle cars from the 70s. And include the Ford falcon GTHO phase 3 and phase 4 from Australia which were the fastest 4 door cars in the world in the early 70s
My grandfather was a pontiac man ..he worked a miller pontiac in sixtys and seventys and was cheif mechanic on the pontiac race team. Little cheif race team .and he said they would smoke v8s with the pontiac engine called the half eight .four cylinder pontiac motor it come in older pontiac lemans and other cars tempest...he also had a 68 pontiac catalina with 421 with tri power ...i grew up old pontiacs ..and have owned several .horse power in seventys mid to late on some models was dumbed down and some got very weak. .but a 69 stock pontiac 428 is said to be way lower than what they took stock old 428 old ass original engine put on dino and was hitting five and better every time on dyno .
One factors in those times, were the lack of real sticky street tires back in the day. A smart person could actually win races with a slightly detuned car. That is basically what chevy did with the chevelle ss LS6, they built a high revving big block with lower torque numbers on the lower end, where all the others, their engine designs were inspired by the Nascar need for mid to lower mid range torque coming out of turns. I have ridden in 455's from Pontiac olds and Buick, they are legit tire frying monsters. BB chevy's were not that, they were bred for revving and upper end horsepower. This allowed them to get away with the true street ties of the day and still run decent to even leading numbers. Put a set of 7 or 8 inch slicks (period correct) on all these cars, the numbers and order will shift pretty quickly. Throw on some modern slicks or even drag radials, you'll really see which ones would rule
My '87 GN went 13.09/107 mph by simply putting a .50-cent boost bleed (from an aquarium) in the rubber turbo boost line and installing a pair of 235/60-15 rear Goodrich tires. But we're talking old "Golden Age" musclecars here!
@mikedownload4029 Gulfport dragway, October 15, 2003. Not a story. Reality. Even Smith of Muscle Mustangs Fast Fords magazine power-shifted a stock 03 Mach to a 13.15 @ 107 mph. Ford haters are the most ignorant bunch in all of motorsports.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FASTEST?? AMC REBEL THE MACHINE was the fastest. The service performance package ordered from the factory installed at the dealership made The Machine pull low 11's high 10's in quarter mile. Unlike yenko and shelby these were not aftermarket parts. The only reason why it wasn't considered factory was because the production line was too small so production parts had to be installed by dealerships.
Sad thing is the LAST Pontiac GTO wasn't much faster than the old one. 13.2 vs 13.6...BTW the PONTIAC 455's were waaay more powerful than the best 400's they put out.
Those '73 & '74 SD-455's had a legit 315 & 290 hp in each year. The days of "gross hp" ended, starting in '72. And went to "net hp". That's why those high hp days dropped drastically.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 The 400 in the early GTO/Firebirds were horrid, and so were the 400 Olds series. The 389 would outrun them, all you had to do was make mechanical linkage instead of vaccum to all 3 2bbls.
@@billdedrick1914 As I said.... needed some "tweeks".... The Boss was a detuned (as you point out) full race engine. None of the other cars were as "limited" as the Boss.
This video was all about the fastest PRODUCTION MODELS IN OEM TRIM TUNED TO FACTORY SPECIFICATIONS! The November 1970 issue of Car Craft magazine CERTIFIED the 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6 coupe with M22 close ratio 4-speed transmission and 3.91:1 positraction rear differential as THE # 1 FASTEST OEM PRODUCTION car for 1970, HANDS DOWN! The numbers in this video are EXACTLY CORRECT! However, the 1970 Plymouth HEMI 'Cuda coupe with the 426 CID 425 HP dual 4 barrel carbs, 4 speed A833 teansmission, and Dana 60 Super Trac Pack limited-slip differential with 4.10:1 rear gears in OEM PRODUCTION specifications came in SECOND to the 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6 previously mentioned; and was faster than the 1970 Buick Skylark GS-X Stage 1 coupe! In deference to the Buick, one which I had driven brand new, it was no slouch at 510 lb. ft. of torque, no power robbing steering, brakes, or A/C! Remember ALL the manufacturers played games with ADVERTISED horsepower and torque ratings!
A big part of it is tires. With better rubber they would have been a lot faster!
You can say that about any car. With better (fill in the blank) they would have been a lot faster.
And tires are what killed a lot of Muscle Cars and occupants.
So true!
And our old console TV would have had a better picture if it had today's LED screen.
yes, many of these cars they slapped on slicks and took them to the local drags..they were alot faster.
I was 13 years old, working in an auto junkyard. The owner let me ride to town with him one evening in his '70 LS6 Chevelle. We'll just say that he was in a bit of a hurry. Living in the hills of West Virginia with some of the twistiest roads you can imagine. It was a thrill to say the least.
What an awesome memory!
It doesn't matter to me what numbers the Boss Mustangs posted. The car's beautiful. Great story. Youth is truly wasted on the young.
@iitywybmad29 - tossing a '70 Chevelle through mountain roads is a hoot. Two cousins and two of my friends had '70/71 Chevelles. All but one of them were small block cars. The other was an LS5 (hydraulic cam, and 30 less horsepower, as I recall).
This is only 1970 muscle cars.hard to believe Chevelle SS 454 go 13.12 sec 1/4 miles????.1969 Dodge charger stock 426 hemi still beat Chevelle SS 454??????.
69 charger with stock 426 hemi go 14.23 1/4 miles.still beat Chevelle SS 454 1970????.
My dad had a 69 Plymouth GTX with the 440 super commmando that ran 12’s at Detroit drag way back then! His best run ever was 11.11 126mph, but that was with slicks! He said he could outrun the hemis in the 1/4 but soon as they got beyond the 1/4 the hemi’s just took off having a crazy top end! But that low gear and toques made this GTX a fast car!
"With slicks ..." HaHa. Yeah, I'll bet it was ... and a helluva lot lot more. 12's, 11's, 10's or whatever ... all it takes is $$$ and a little applied sense.
Growing up, the guy that lived across the road was a hot rodder. He built street rods and drove a '69 Charger RT 440. That was my first ride in a Muscle car. Later that year a high school buddy was diving a brand new '70 340 Challenger. I was hooked and own many fast cars today.
I grew up with my dad always telling me about the muscle cars he had in high school, took me to car auctions and I’ve been hooked ever since too.
Car craft magazine tested a 440 six pack against the 426 hemi same car and year and in a quarter mile the 440 was quicker the hemi was a Nascar thing
Children giggle at the feeling of acceleration .
still puts a smile on my adult face too!
My 70 428 scj mach 1 ran 12.90's all day long.
All day and into the night!
I always liked being different, loved my AMC's and leaving people with their faces hanging out.
They had the mechanical muscle but I just couldn’t ever get past the body design!
example, J10 401 full time 4wd with Borg Warner auto slightly built woud just smear most stoplight to stoplight etc. Could get into Javelins,Gremlins .
I had a red '69 AMX ... sort of a junky build and quite light, but a very decent 390 engine to offset the other deficiencies.
@@LR-my2diyeah their power plant definitely made up for the body design!
@brendaandjohn1416 - I wish I could remember the years... but a dealership in Ohio had two AMCs I lusted over in the early 2000s. One was an unmolested Rebel ST with (I think) less than 40k original miles. It was nearly mint.
I think there is a lot of variation among the cars back then, depending on tuning and a variety of other factors.
True. A lot easier to tinker with 50+ years ago!
My dad was a child of the 60s he said in 1968 and 1969 the hemis ruled the drag strips. And he was always a Chevy guy.
That's what I thought too with my '68 Hemi RR until running across a 1970 GS Stage 1 sleeper. !'ll never forget THAT surprise.
@@LR-my2di I can understand that as I owned a Hemi and also a Stage 1 Buick..
By the late 60s, yes, Dodge had caught up a bit. Thanks for watching.
Which was your favorite between the two?
@@PistonTrends I had the chance to buy a 1970 hemi cuda all original for $8,000 the guy was a quadriplegic, and a drag strip racer. Hit a wall in his other car and it paralyzed him from the neck down. He only wanted $8,000 for that car and that was 15 years ago and I was young and broke and couldn't afford to come up with the $8,000!!😭😭
Great line up of pure American muscle. I graduated from high school in 1970 and got a chance to drive some of these amazing cars.
Lucky!
My father and my uncle worked as mechanics at a Pontiac dealer. My father drag raced semi-pro. My father ordered a new 1970 Ram Air IV GTO, with his employee discount. Some weeks later Pontiac called him and told him the Ram Air IV was no longer available that late in the model year in the GTO, even though it was still available in the 1970 Firebird. They offered him a 455 GTO for the same price. Between my father and dealer making some connections at Pontiac, they agreed to "hand assemble" one last 1970 Ram Air IV GTO for his order. That was likely the last Ram Air IV GTO that was made. The remaining Ram Air IV engines for the GTO were used in 1970 Firebirds. The 1970 Ram Air IV Firebirds got GTO engines and not Firebird specific engines. The reason they stopped making RAIV GTO's, was to use the rest of the engines in Firebirds. The 1969 RAIV Firebirds got Firebird specific engines, but not the 1970 Firebirds, which got the remaining GTO specific engines, late in the model year. Due to my father's GTO, there was one less 1970 RAIV Firebird.
That’s an incredibly cool story! Is it still in the family?
@@PistonTrends No it is long gone. He started drag racing in the 1950's, with the big names, before they were big names. His first new race car was a 1962 421 Super Duty car, then he put that 421 or part of that 421 in a new 1965 GTO, then in a new 1968 Firebird, then in the 1970 GTO and finally he went back to the 1968 Firebird, which he raced until 1980. He had changed engine blocks and custom racing pistons, RAIV cylinder heads and a final port matched Holley intake manifold, with the 1962 421 Super Duty crankshaft and connecting rods, I think. His last 2 or 3 seasons, he switched from a 4 speed to automatic for bracket racing. He stopped racing in 1980, because the fiberglass racing seat, even with padding, bothered the veins in his legs, when he had to sit for long periods at the track. When he went back to the 1968 Firebird, he sold the 1970 RAIV GTO, because the Firebird was lighter weight and faster. He did switch from the ported 421 SD heads to the ported RAIV heads in 1970 and the two cars required different custom headers for those heads. I still have the 1970 RAIV intake manifold, that was milled down to fit the milled down heads, before he switched to the Holley Street Dominator intake manifold. Before the RAIV intake, he ran the 421 SD intake and carbs and on the Holley intake he ran an 850 Holley, which was his final setup.
So what was the difference between a RA !V engine for the Firebird vs. a RA IV engine for the GTO? So what entailed a "Firebird specific engine" as you put it? An old time Pontiac racer here in Jacksonville, FL maintains that there was no difference. He also claimed when his 1970 Orbit Orange GTO RA IV Judge was brand new, the only street race he lost was to an equally stock 1970 GS Stage 1sold through Key Buick in Jax FL. . When I say "equally stock" they both had headers, and that was it. Both cars were just two weeks old at the time. That's not to say that he raced every other "stock" musclecar in Jax ... but still.
@@LR-my2di Before 1970, the Firebird coded 400's were different from similar GTO engines for the same year. 1969 had the biggest differences, but rumor is that many 1969 Firebird 400 engines are actually GTO coded engines, even though the service manuals and parts say they aren't supposed to be the same. The Firebird 400's got different carbs and different exhaust manifolds from 67 through 69. The Ram Air III was a GTO only only engine in 69, while the similar, but slightly different engine in the Firebird was called a 400 HO for 69. The Firebird did get the Ram Air III in 70 and 70 and newer Firebird 400's got GTO exhaust manifolds. For 69 the camshafts were different, as were the valve springs, depending on the camshaft used. For 1970 there were no Firebird coded Ram Air IV engines, as all 70 Ram Air IV engines were GTO coded.The 69 Ram Air III engine got special valve springs that were heavier than 428 HO springs, but not as tall as 68 Ram Air springs. The manuals got Ram Air camshafts and auto's got HO cams. Both with the same RAIII springs. The Firebird 400 HO got RAIII springs with an HO cam in manuals and got standard performance springs with a standard performance manual trans cam in automatic Firebird 400 HO's, for 69. The RAIII GTO got RA exhaust manifolds from the 67 RA GTO, while the 69 400HO Firebird got 428 HO exhaust manifolds.Later in 69, all RAIIi GTO's got the HO cam instead of the RA cam, but still had the special RAIII valve springs. The distributor gears materials were different between 69 GTO RAIII and the 69 Firebird 400HO, in the automatic Firebirds. The Firebird did get the RAIII engine for 1970. In the late 1970's, I ordered from Pontiac, a standard valve spring, an HO valve spring and a RAIII valve spring and they all three had different parts numbers, but the springs registered exactly the same on a valve spring tester. The service replace springs were all the same spring, by the late 70's. Even though the part numbers and specs were different, they all tested as standard performance springs, for replacement in the late 70's. Some 69 GTO RAIII engines have 4 bolt mains and some do not. I'm not sure any 69 Firebird 400HO engines have 4 bolt mains, because the onesI've seen have all been two bolt main engines.
I was born in 62 I remember and love all these car's
My 1965 Corvette Stingray should have been listed.
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It’s listed in our 1965 episode!
You got your Boss 429 times wrong.
The 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429 can run a quarter mile in under 14 seconds with stock parts, and in the 12s with minor modifications. Audrain Auto Museum lists the quarter mile time as 13.6 seconds, while a 1970 Boss 429 dragstrip survivor ran a quarter mile in 11.79 seconds. .
Doesn't matter The LS6 Chevelle was the KING of the street!
Every, and I mean EVERY manufacturer was sending ringers to get tested by Auto Magazine's back then.
99% of posted et's & speeds in those said Magazine's were also corrected to "sea level" numbers.
I am a Mopar guy, but, the '70 Boss 9 easily ran very low 13's straight from the factory. Ford got that one right
I had a white 1969 Boss 429. In 1971 at the Gainesville Raceway, which had just opened. it ran a best of 13.56/103.74 mph on the just released stock F60-15 Goodyears. That was all she had pure stock on the best launch of the day.
Would've been nice had he actually shown the '70 Mustang though.
1970 Buick GSX....
My dream car!
I wish Buick made cars like that today!
Me too
I like my Mustangs and Torinos but i also like that Buick what a rocket with a luxury interior. Very nice.
Definitely agree, I'm Ford through and through, 70 Torino Cobra my favorite, and 71 Boss 351, and 71 Mach 1 with 429 SCJ, my #2 and #3, But those 455 Stage 1 Buicks were Insane Fast, probably the one GM car that i really respect 70 GS or GSX 455 Stage 1.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 Agreed! And I owned a sleeper ''71 Torino/370 hp w.3.50 gears and the specially jetted and factory modded Rochester Q-Jet carb. .
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I have owned several of these famous 70's muscle cars over the years..1970 Dodge Challenger R/T 440-6 4 speed, 1971 426 Hemi Cuda 4 speed, 1970 Chevelle SS454 LS-6 4 speed, 1970 Olds 442 W-30 4 speed, 1971 Olds 442 W30 4 speed, 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 which I still own today. The quickest and strongest of that group was and is the Buick GS 455 Stage 1 followed by the Chevelle SS454 LS-6. Back in 1974 I ran 12.40 at Detroit Dragway with the Chevelle LS-6 with headers and slicks otherwise stock. My 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 has run low 11's with it's original Stage 1 engine (not stock) and 400 Turbo trans but both have been modified and improved over the years . This Stage 1 is a monster with mind bending bottom end torque.
Those are some awesome cars that you’ve owned. Do you still have any today?
@@PistonTrends Yes, I have the 70 GS 455 Stage 1, My friend owns the W30 442 I used to own.
@@PistonTrends Yes, I own the 70' Buick GS455 Stage 1, my friend now owns the Olds 442 W-30..
The GSX was A step above the GS with what we got for tires today it would run low 12 high 11
@@danpietz6566 The GSX was not any quicker than a stage 1 GS.. Neither would run low 12's high 11's with today's tires stock..Low 12's high 11's requires headers, cam, and head porting
In the early '80s I stuffed an LS6 motor into a '70 Nova SS and ran 11.90s at the track (no mods to the motor, just ran it on slicks!). Had a turbo 400 transferring to a Dana 60 with 4.10 gears.
It wasn’t stock then.
Impossible that the 70 Nova SS with a stock LS-6 with just slicks would run 10.90's Might run 11.90's possibly..My 70 Chevelle SS 454 LS-6 with headers and slicks ran 12.40's back in 1974 albeit in a heavier car (by 400+ lbs) than the Nova SS
🦬💩 Didn't happen dude. Even a Motion car wouldn't run that tight without some major changes to an L72 or an LS6. The ZL1 Dick Harrell wrenched had a major gear change, Camshaft and Tunnel Ram with 2 Carburetors to break into the 10s on huge Slicks in a lightened Camaro.
An LS6 with staggered jetting and headers would knock on 500 flywheel hp. In a Nova with Big Block stock was 3400 lbs. That computes in a perfect World to an 11.47 @ 124 mph 1/4 mile. I'll take 12.0s because few guys took the time to stay on the carb and suspension Tune to run consistent back then.
BTW, it would take 575-600 Flywheel HP to run a 10.97. An LS6 as delivered wouldn't ever get there.
Maybe you can sing a few bars of "Somewhere over the Rainbow".
@@2648498 Oh my, you're starting' a war with good ol' Payner!
@@billdedrick1914 Hey man! Don't ruin his b.s.!
I was always a GM guy my first car was a 67 Camaro with the RS hide away lights. Friends had Mustangs a few Chevelle's.
I have to say my favorite especially for 1970, The Buick GSX in Saturn Yellow. Just a beautiful car.
On the other hand is there a "wrong answer"? I'll take anyone shown here in my garage.
So true and I agree. Thanks for watching!
Well, the 70 Torino Cobra was good for a 13.99 ET not the ET you reported, also during the Boss 429 sequence, you showed a Windsor small block along with the Boss 429 while talking about the Boss 429.
Gotcha. Thanks for watching. Always trying to improve.
Those 1/4 times on every car listed could vary up to 2 seconds in either direction. So many factors. I remember an ex girlfriends brother win the winternationals with a 70 396 nova just with minor modifications. Another person I knew had a 70 428cj Mustang that ran hi 11's low 12's just with a tune, headers and slicks. The Boss 429 got a bad rap because it was not only detuned for the street but was geared for NASCAR, it wasn't setup for drag racing. But if you did I have seen them run 9- 10 sec 1/4. Myself had a bone stock 70 Mustang coupe with a 351ho cleaveland all I did was put on a holley carb and tune it, it ran a 13.80 with g 60 tires.
Boss 429 needed to have 2 4-barrel carbs from the factory.
@@iggyfritz7150 13.8 back then from a 351 Mustang was nothing to sneeze at. That car would have won money on the street.
Actually, the 429 Boss Mustangs had factory 3.91 gears, and NO ... those were certainly not NASCAR gears. The Boss 429 had the right gearing for street.strip drags! It's just that the Buick GS Stage 1's could kick their hi-$$$ asses.
@@anthonytomaro8278 So why not just one BIG HOLLEY? The 1050 Holley was available!
@@LR-my2di Holley had a big 3 - barrel too. Either Dennis Wilson or James Taylor mentions it in a scene in Two Lane Blacktop.
428 SCJ Mustangs were faster than the Boss 429...not sure why the car is not on the list. Likely faster than the 429 Torino as well.
428 SCJ Fords dont get no respect
I am impressed, little to no hate and mostly nice anecdotes from the past.
Well done ppl.
1968.5 Cobra-Jet Mustang - Motor Trend clocked 13.54 in the 1/4 (Mag Headline:" Fastest Pure Stocker in the History of Man").
With Cassler cheater slicks, I ran 13.24/105 at Irwindale in the 1/4...bone stock save the tires.
The engine indeed was supposed to be "bone stock", but it also did have Doug Thorley 1 7/8" primary 2-piece headers, I've got that old MT magazine and article, Larry Rose
As a youmg kid, I was fortunate to be around a bunch of cool hotrods. My dads pals would come by amd man was it exciting. Built 400 69 firebird, BB 71 Nova, a cool red Vega and several others. I remember hearing those things come down the block, especially the ones with gear drives. 🔥🤙
Sounds like an awesome childhood!
1970 Plymouth Hemi Cuda (CC)
426ci/425hp, 4spd, 3.55, 0-60 - n/a, 1/4 mile - 13.10 @ 107mph
Glad someone other than me remembered..
Gezz
According to a now-deceased but prominent musclecar guru of those days, the factory car was thoroughly "gone over" and very well-tuned by Al Kirchenbaum of Rockville Centre Dodge in Rockville Centre, NY. Many factory Mopars were sent there before magazines tested them. That was also noted. That car also had a unreported 4.10 gear set and a lot of time testing at the strip on "slightly wider" than factory tires. This was all in the Sept. 1971 issue on pages 47- 49 of the Sept. 1971 east coast CARS magazine. The author was giving examples of how some magazines of the day fudged things and didn't report them! As a MOPAR guy, I still have that issue.
the muscle corvette of 1970 was pretty quick
70 chevelle with the LS6 454 was the only year GM put more horse power in a car that wasn't a vette, thats one of many reasons why that car was so special
Remembering my dads 63 impala ss never gonna forget those rides to the grocery store
Must've been the ice cream sandwiches!
Good memories I’m sure! Does it make you want to buy one? My dad had a 68 Camaro RS and for that reason alone I’d love to get one someday.
Would love to have one but no room. His inspiration lives on though. Have a Camaro zl1. It’s more than a handful as I have done some work to it. Just as my father taught me.
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When I was 18 my Brother came home from the Army and bought a 67 Plymouth GTX 440 automatic. Bone stock he turned 14.01 @ 105 mph and won trophy in his class at drag races. He never lost a race to a Ponticac GTO so the numbers they are showing are not what I observed back in the day. Most muscle cars ran 14 and 15 second quarter miles when bone stock. If you ran 13's back then with a stock unmodified car, you had a fast car! Side note: My first car was a 72 Dodge Demon 340 and I raced several GTO's and always beat them. The GTO was always overrated. Beautiful cars, but not as fast as many others. I would suspect that some of these times they are quoting are from cars that had headers and some slight modifications from factory stock.
GTOs were over-rated? Nobody ever insisted GTOs were the fastest cars built. But they were trend setters, and Pontiac had the forethought to offer cars optioned any way you wanted it. So you could order a Goat with a turgid 2 speed, mild V-8, air conditioning and hi-way gears that barely performed better than any LeMans. And of course, that's where lots of people compare other cars to GTOs as this. But there were many up-grades that would make them perform with most of the other cars of the time. A 67 GTO, with a RA 400, Muncie, and 3.90s would run easily with your 440 hydraulic transmission mopar. And with "minor" up-grades such as tuning, hedders, and better tires, they definitely kept up with the rest. Which is what most gearheads did with those cars. Even class racing allowed such modifications, and GTOs were competitive, in their classes. And the 340s were also a good running eng., but were put in lighter cars, than the GTOs. When I competed in class racing, (F/S, IHRA) 340 dusters were in the GTOs class, because power to weight was similar. And those Mopars ran well, but the Goats would keep up, and sometimes win. Depends on all factors considered when drag racing.
Don’t you wish you had those cars back?
yeah, yeah, yeah, you always won every race. sounds like you're the first-place douche as every manufacturer got involved after the GTO. small mindedness is a terrible disease.
Sooooo, the Boss 429 'Stang could only beat my '63 Rambler by 9/10ths of a second? Mmmhmm!
Depends on the driver behind the wheel, I guess! 😁
I bought a 71 cutlass supreme from my good friend in highschool and me and my cousin did alot of work to it and I took it to the atco speedway in Atco new jersey and it ran low 12's in the 1/4 mile and I absolutely loved it ❤️😎👍, and ever since then I have been hooked on cuttlass's.
Very cool!
I grew up in this era and drove most every muscle car on this list. The big problem with many of these was many who bought them didn’t know how to drive them so the potential was out the window. I did a huge amount of street racing during that era and I can’t tell you how many of these cars I outran with an old 65 Ford Galaxie with a stock 428 which wasn’t a Cobra Jet and it was a 14.30 car at 99 MPH. If I saw one of these cars come into the drive inn restaurant where all us gear heads hung out with a dealer tag you can bet we were all over it. You couldn’t get through the drive inn without at least 5 different people asking you to race. The real bread and butter races were the Mopars. Especially the Roadrunners. I raced so many of them and yes Hemi powered ones too. The first street race I had with that old Ford was a friends Hemi 70 Super Bee. He was so mad he lost. The car didn’t lose he did because he didn’t know how to drive it. With street tires of the day you couldn’t just floor them from the start they would burn the tires off. That’s were they would lose. Once in a while there would be the guy who knew how to drive them but even then they had real problems getting them to get traction. It was a great time and so much fun. I went to the drag strips a lot and learned how quick those cars were with a average driver so I pretty much knew what to expect. Most of them with a average driver 14 second 1/4 miles was about the best you would see. Remember in those days no traction control. Crappy tires. No rev limiters or two step launch. Many of them were geared high with single track rearends so they weren’t 1/4 mile beast. The cars with 4 speed standard transmissions were even harder to drive so it made it even easier to beat them with a average driver. On slick asphalt roads we raced on made them even worse. The times in this video are in exceptional conditions with skilled drivers.
Back in the early 1980's when Hot Rod magazine was going strong, and when you could actually call and speak to a magazine editor, HR editor John Diana told me that in the 1960's and 1970's, both Car Craft and Hot Rod tested the exact same factory supplied musclecars (one word). Since all pictures of such tests were b&w, no-one ever bothered to question that fact. However, Hot Rod got to test the two cars first since it was Peterson's premier automotive magazine. Car Craft tested the same car afterwards, but ALWAYS was allowed to post a quicker e.t. than found in HR Otherwise, readers wouldn't bother to read the CC test of the same model (while also not realizing that it was indeed the same car HR tested!)! The example he used for this charade was the test of the 1970 LS6 Chevelle found in both HR and CC. . It legitimately ran 13.80 for HR yet months later Car Craft had it running *supposed* 13-teens in their magazine. And check it out ... that time was noted in this video! It was a bogus "test", claimed Dianna. I asked him "how could that be?". He replied "the CCF!" I asked him "what did that mean?". He replied "California Correction Factor!" He added "We had to give the readers something that made them want to buy our magazines. It was for the same reason that you never saw a Buick on the cover of either magazine.". He continued: "For example, that GS Stage 1 was a great musclecar, but really, how many readers owned one or even knew about them." Now you know the rest of the story! Larry Rose
Wow I didn’t know that. And so cool that you have these stores to tell. Thanks Larry!
@@PistonTrends Thanks ... I'm happy to share, but the comments can get a bit long for a "comments section".
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A rare and relatively unknown muscle car that could beat most big block cars in that era as the 1968 Dodge Dart GTS with a 383 in it. Was the best bang for your buck back in the day - run low 14's all day long
The dart was underrated!
Why do you guys always miss the Yenko Nova Big block?
Don’t worry the Yenko is on an upcoming episode for a different year.
Back in the 1970's, my friends had all these cars you are profiling.There is one car you did forget. I had one , and had no problem dusting off all those cars my friends had.That car was a 1974 Trans Am SD 455. It was rated at 360 HP with 500 torque. In actuality the motor was dynoed at 500 HP!
We may have to include that in our list for 1974 models!
Your way off with your horsepower and torque numbers
The fact is the Pontiac Super Duty 455 engines from 1973 & 1974 (specifically the heads) were derived from the 1969-1970 Ram Air 4 "round port" intake & exhaust design. (Also the 1968 "Ram Air 2" heads were also round port, as well as the 1963 & 1964 SD421 engines were round port too). They flowed very well. The 1970 400cid Ram Air 4 engine was rated at a very conservative 370hp & only 4hp more than the Ram Air 3 400s of the same year! A properly tuned bone stock RA4 400 cranked out an easy 450hp, if not closer to 500hp (putting down at least 400hp to the tires. Lack of traction was an issue.). Now, back to the '73 & '74 SD455. Pontiac rated it at 290hp, or 310hp depending on who you ask but in reality that beast was basically a detuned race engine (the compression was only 8.5:1 in '73 & '74) putting out at LEAST 350hp. Anyone who doesn't believe me go find an SD455 Trans Am or Firebird Formula owner & talk him or her into taking you for a ride. When I was in my 20s I was fortunate enough to go for a ride in a '73 red/white interior SD455 with automatic T/A. That was a legit "$100 bill" car!. Meaning if there was a $100 bill taped to the dash & I could grab it while under hard acceleration I could keep it. No freakin' way! I was pinned to the seat & the driver said he was only at 2/3 throttle to keep the tires from going up in smoke.
The brutal acceleration of that SD455 Trans Am is something I will never forget. One of the faster '70s. musclecars I've experienced.)
Or, just watch the Pure Stock Drags or F.A.S.T. class 1/4mile drags on UA-cam & watch these cars run the 1/4 mile. Especially watch that green on green 1968 Firebird 400 RA2 car in the FAST class (Factory Appearing Stock Tire) run in the 10s at over 130mph!!! On bias ply radials no less!!!
Bias is the precursor to radial
@@robertbisson9499lol.
You're a bit delusional, but keep thinking those thoughts.
The 455 SD's were hitting mid 13's @ 103-104 per numerous Magazine tests back in the day. The "gross hp" numbers got corrected in '72 to "net hp" numbers, which netted them a legit 315 hp in '73.
Cars and zebras nostalgia races shows the gs beating the 454 ss
Thats a `69 Mustang in the video and not a `70.
Good catch! Thanks for watching
My 70 chevelle doesn’t run that fast with a little small block, but it sure is one amazing car to cruise around!
Why no small blocks. There was a story were Ronnie Sox drove a 68 Barracuda 340 4sd tuned with headers to a best of 13.3 I'm sure other small blocks had close times...
Tuned with headers means the car is not stock.
I think the Boss 351 could but that wasn't available til 1971.
@@chuckselvage3157 A Boss 351 was a 13.8/13.9 car at best according to period road tests.
The 71 Boss 351 Mustang was a Beast of a Small Block, it surprised many Big Block cars back in the day.
Close but not enough to make the list!
The mighty Hemi placed third on this list. The Mopar fan boys are really going to be disappointed. LOL.
Because the list is BS. Do serious research from 1970, when straight from the factory cars were tested by reliable groups/ magazines. This post put the Boss 429 at #10, which is pure BS, it was in the top 3. '70 Hemicuda, Boss 9, Buick GNX, all within a razors edge of each other. The boss 9 was the ONLY Ford in the top 10
Ain't the car it's the driver
The Mighty Hemi ALWAYS finishes behind the 455 Stage 1 Hemi Killer !
These numbers are "show room new" numbers. Street hemis were MAJORLY under-tuned for the street. The hallowed lore of the street hemi has to do with how small "day 2" modifications could awaken the beast within. Full-length headers alone was a huge improvement. Very few hemi cars stayed in Day 1 configuration.
@mindeloman so why isn't the HEMI Dart on this list? It had a quarter mile time close to 10 secs.
Where did they get these numbers?
The Buick GS455 Stage 1 was the fastest 1/4 mile (showroom stock). It held the record until they released the Grand National, and then the GNX.
You must mean for American cars, because the GNX never held any world's fastest 1/4 mile stock records.
@mikedownload4029 - the GNX tied the top contenders for 0-60 (4.9sec) until 1990, and held the fastest 1/4 mile for two years at 12.7 until 1989... at least for the NA market, imports included. I'm sure there were contenders elsewhere, which weren't restricted by our emissions standards.
@@driverjamescopeland Google Porsche 959. Launched in 1986 and run through 1993 I believe. From 1986-89, it was the world's quickest production car 0-60, 1/4 and top speed. In 1989, the Ferrari F40 took over the 1/4 mile and top speed record, but the 959 retained the 0-60 record.
That 959 would annihilate a GNX from launch until it ran out of fuel.
@@driverjamescopeland This is what Car & Driver said about the 959 back in 1987.
"Power and speed are the core of the 959's excellence. With rocket-sled acceleration and the highest top end we've ever measured, the 959 stands alone at the pinnacle of production-car performance. If that sounds like hyperbole, how does a 0-to-60-mph time of 3.6 seconds strike you? Or 100 mph from rest in a mere 8.8 seconds, 120 mph in 12.4 seconds, and 140 mph in a tick less than 20 seconds? The 959 devours the standing quarter-mile in twelve seconds flat, with a terminal speed of 116 mph."
@@driverjamescopeland That GNX held American production car records, but NEVER held any world production car records.
And by the way, that 12.0 second 1/4 mile that Car & Driver ran is the slowest time I've seen for that car. The official number was 11.8 seconds.
Nothing could touch a GS stage 2.
Was the Buick GSX Stage 2 not available in 1970? ?
It sure was
My friend had an SS454. Cops used to hang out across the street from his house....
😂. I bet!
.... trying to find out how he was stealin' so much gas at the local ESSO station!
Then along came Bill Grumpy Jenkins,, 1967, A/S Nova that propelled Jenkins to fortune and fame running a 327ci, 350hp L-79 small block (with and estimated 420hp after Grump's massaging), 4-speed against the Dodge and Plymouth 426ci Hemis, setting a class record of 11.66,
We are living in the best of times now. Today's performance vehicles whip all these vehicles.
Performance wise, yes. But they can never replace the nostalgia. Maybe in the year 2070. 😂
Maybe but the bang for the buck was much better in the 60's and then there was the malaise era for about 15 years. These cars ruled for 30 years and then some.
@@turbo8454 Some of the sources for times are from magazines that make some tweaks before testing. For more realistic times search Internet for Car Life Road Test Summary. That mag tested cars just as they received them from manufactures' test fleets (which, in many cases, were optimized before getting to testers hands).
Not even close. Name any comparable car today that can do 13's at over 100mph. Comparable. That means. No adders. All motor. We can wait.
@@grabir01 Was this comment meant for me? Mustang GT, Camaro SS and Challenger/Charger 392. All of these run well into the 12's at over 110 MPH.
These times could be really improved with a proper engine tune and some decent drag racing tires on the rear. Of course with a decent gear ratio in the rear end like 411 or 431 gears
You can have have your Porsche’s, Ferrari’s and Lamborghini’s because most of these vehicles are beautiful to me
The 1970 Camaro COPO 427 ran at just over 11 seconds in the quarter.
My family had No. 5 on this list. GTO was fast and sexy vehicle🎉
Cat and Driver was an interesting source for acceleration numbers. Hemi Cuda was a 13.5 car and the Chevelle SS at 13.8 car.
The real equalizer is the tire. Radials were not popular until late 70s. I think Goodyear started making them in mass quantities in 1977.
Plymouth and Dodge make the Race Hemi in '68 but equiped the car with skinny tires because they knew that racers would swap in slicks - so why waste the customer's money?
If you want to get an idea on how fast these cars could be - take a look at NHRA stock eliminator. Keep in mind these are engines that are on the extreme end of blue printing and have headers + radical camshaft (stock block, heads, intake, carb etc. on a nearly stock chassis).
There is some pure stock racing classes (see youtube for videos).
Honestly the fastest car i remember from the 70s were the chargers and my buddies 79 trans am 6.6 litre. Pretty close between the two. The one charger was called a honeybee. Other was an rt
You kept showing a 1969 Boss 429, not a 70 model, and you also slipped in a Small Block Ford shot, Definitely not no Boss 429 engine with the chrome valve covers. And when you said the All Mighty Hemi engine in the GTX, you showed a Big Block Wedge, probably a 440, Not No Hemi, C'mon man.
Sorry about that. Doing the best with the stock footage we have. Thanks for the view and comment! We will get better with more videos we make.
@@PistonTrends Didn't mean it in a bad way, just pointing it out to you.
I believe that Boss Mustang you were showing is a 69. Body looked like the 69 428 SCJR I had back in the. Remember 69s having 4 headlights and fake air scoop on the rear quarter.
Still enjoyed the video you put together. The quickest probably 69 and before???
Thanks. Yeah I’ve had a few comments on that error I missed while editing. Trying to get better and thanks for the view and comments!
List Takes Up Space, Can Argue About Those Cars & About 8 More !!!!
FYI, many of your video clips don't match the narration. But that aside I'd like to see the same type of comparison with the same cars, a tune, open headers and slicks.
We’re trying to do the best we can with the stock footage we have. Thanks for the view and comment!
Nobody taking old bias ply tires into account. Put today’s tires on these cars and they’d run faster. Some people are saying you could say that for today’s cars… no you can’t today’s tires is all we have. When they come out with better tires then put them on today’s cars and also muscle cars. Horsepower is horsepower, traction is traction. Weight would be the defining factor.
That’s a good point I never thought about!
VERY profound!
What about the nova 2 ss?
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I wish you wouldn’t show pictures of the wrong engines, I just started this and I’ve already seen two of them that were clearly wrong.
Sorry about that. Trying to get better the more videos we make. Thanks for the watch!
The 70 428CJ did 11s in NHRA C stock. They put 500 lbs of weight to pull them back to the 12s.
No pure stock from the factory 428 Ford could touch the 12's...pure stock that is
@@artbrookey3468 They did and got refactored after the first meet . NHRA C classes. They made 410 hp.
@@artbrookey3468 68 Cobra Jet could pull 13.5 seconds from the factory according to car mags at the time.
@@chuckselvage3157That's because ALL manufactures sent "ringers" to be magazine tested ....
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@@chuckselvage3157 Yep, and in C/SA form they hit 10.90s and so they put 500 lbs on them to get them down to 11:20. I know a couple brothers who had a C/SA car running 10.50s , iron intake and they carried the front tires a ways.
The Chevelles were always the kings of the quarter mile!
Missed Boss 351
Those were only produced in 1971 I believe. Keep an eye out for it in an upcoming episode!
Yes, Miss spoke 1971 the fastest time for that year and some of the big blocks in 70
I’m cheating by a year but the ‘71 only Boss 351 Mustang might have been the most underrated of the bunch. Doubly so when you consider it was only 5.8 liters.
Keep an eye out for it in our 1971 edition video 😉
It's not the mighty Chevelle, the Oldsmobile 442 with the W-30 package was a sub 13sec car.
Not Stock they weren't. They couldn't even run 13's with the stock bias-ply tires.
Magazines squeezed mid 13's out of them, but with slicks.
Too many people just making stuff up on this thread. These are stock cars tested as the came available.
@@mikedownload4029 SO TRUE! SO FUNNY!
@@danielfair4675 Right!
@@LR-my2di My 70 Olds 442 W-30 ran 13.75 stock with the stock tires at Detroit Dragway.. No way were they sub 13 second cars.
Super Stock recorded a 13:10 which was the fastest of all the times recorded.
Newsflash people , most of the 1/4 mile times recorded back in the day by the magazines are bogus . Consider this , who stood to gain by having the fastest cars ? Who supplied the cars to the magazines ? Who tended to cheat big time ? One answer covers all three questions , the factories did . They used to build stripped to no creature comfort option cars , then have their engineers super tune them , before sending them out to the magazines to road test . Several magazines even tested the same car . Now maybe you know why the. new car your older brother or uncle ordered brand new , wasn't as fast as the one that was tested in Hot Dawg Magazine .
Folks don't wanna be fed the truth, it makes those awesome memories fade, lol.
I'm 59 years old, I like to deal with reality. As you mentioned, EVERY manufacturer sent "ringers" to be tested by Magazines. Pull those old cars out and a 4 banger Subaru sti or Honda Civic Type-R will give them a wake-up call.
Not every GTO tested by magazines had what they thought under the hood. Some cars had 421s in place of 389s or 428s instead of 400s. It wasn't only Pontiac doing this.
@basilcarroll9729 probably the most infamous incidence of this was pulled on Hot Rod Magazine in early 1967 . They had gotten their hands on a Bolero Red , SS396 Camaro , one of the first ones ever built . After testing it , they got the bright idea to enter it at the Winternationals , so they sent the car out to have the engine balanced and freshened , and the car race prepped . At the track they ended up in Super Stock /C class running against Bill Jenkins . After beating the Grump and several others , the guy that had worked on the car showed up in their pit , and asked them " just what the he'll they were doing ?" Turns out he didn't have time to freshen the 396 that was in the car , so he had installed one of his stroker big blocks in the car , a 481 cubic inch monster . They pulled the car from competition, but the NHRA wouldn't reinstate the cars they had beaten . The car ended up at Edelbrock , being used as a test car for their new products . They restored it several years ago .
Yes, so much of it depends on the driver behind the wheel, among other conditions
Make up a top speed for muscle cars from the 70s. And include the Ford falcon GTHO phase 3 and phase 4 from Australia which were the fastest 4 door cars in the world in the early 70s
In the works!!
@@PistonTrends oh, so good
Pontiac GTO! The Judge Glenn
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1967 GTO
13.5 seconds for a quarter mile time😊
For some of the best ONLY ... with those old factory tires of the day!
try the Australian Ford XY GTHO phase IV mate .... beats any yank tank
My grandfather was a pontiac man ..he worked a miller pontiac in sixtys and seventys and was cheif mechanic on the pontiac race team. Little cheif race team .and he said they would smoke v8s with the pontiac engine called the half eight .four cylinder pontiac motor it come in older pontiac lemans and other cars tempest...he also had a 68 pontiac catalina with 421 with tri power ...i grew up old pontiacs ..and have owned several .horse power in seventys mid to late on some models was dumbed down and some got very weak. .but a 69 stock pontiac 428 is said to be way lower than what they took stock old 428 old ass original engine put on dino and was hitting five and better every time on dyno .
Put the Boss 429 on the highway and see what it does.
The 1/4 mile is what there talking about not the highway
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Thanks Einstein 🤦
Buick 455
One factors in those times, were the lack of real sticky street tires back in the day. A smart person could actually win races with a slightly detuned car. That is basically what chevy did with the chevelle ss LS6, they built a high revving big block with lower torque numbers on the lower end, where all the others, their engine designs were inspired by the Nascar need for mid to lower mid range torque coming out of turns. I have ridden in 455's from Pontiac olds and Buick, they are legit tire frying monsters. BB chevy's were not that, they were bred for revving and upper end horsepower. This allowed them to get away with the true street ties of the day and still run decent to even leading numbers. Put a set of 7 or 8 inch slicks (period correct) on all these cars, the numbers and order will shift pretty quickly. Throw on some modern slicks or even drag radials, you'll really see which ones would rule
My 03 Mach 1 ran 13.39 @ 106 bone stock. 4.6 4V
Cool story.
My '87 GN went 13.09/107 mph by simply putting a .50-cent boost bleed (from an aquarium) in the rubber turbo boost line and installing a pair of 235/60-15 rear Goodrich tires. But we're talking old "Golden Age" musclecars here!
@mikedownload4029 Gulfport dragway, October 15, 2003. Not a story. Reality. Even Smith of Muscle Mustangs Fast Fords magazine power-shifted a stock 03 Mach to a 13.15 @ 107 mph. Ford haters are the most ignorant bunch in all of motorsports.
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@LR-my2di in 07 I added an HP Performance twin 57 kit and turned 11.73 @ 123 mph.
Third generation Chevelle.
Add slicks to them all and some carb tuning etc and then let’s talk .
Seriously!
A Charger RT or a Challenger? A 426 or a 440, C’mon man!
I have a 1970 z28 RS Camaro I have a neighbor with a 1970 440 charger and my stock z with the 350 lt1 360 h.p is way faster
Thanks for the view, always trying to get better!
I’d rather have the Camaro like you!
Just saying, I personally love all these car's, but now! You have all the big names, and way more HP! 2025, is going to be a big year!
Only problem is that they’re phasing out the V8s! Except for Mustang and Corvette.
Wrong hemi cuda did 13.10 LS6 did 13.12 70 hemi roadrunner did 13.36 and Buick did 13.38 then challenger then GTO then gtx then w30 then mustang
Gotcha! Thanks for watching
What about the 1969-70 428 Cobra Jet Mustangs?????
Keep a lookout for it on an upcoming video highlighting 1971’s!
A stock 428 CJ Mustang was a 13.7 car.
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@@timsharpe3498 TKS!
1975 GTO
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FASTEST?? AMC REBEL THE MACHINE was the fastest. The service performance package ordered from the factory installed at the dealership made The Machine pull low 11's high 10's in quarter mile. Unlike yenko and shelby these were not aftermarket parts. The only reason why it wasn't considered factory was because the production line was too small so production parts had to be installed by dealerships.
No Camaro? No Corvette? No Dodge Dart Hemi? Are we in the same 1970s ?
You’re thinking 60’s.
You missed the 1971 Boss 351. Fastest production car of 1971.
Keep a lookout for it on our list of 1971 muscle cars! Coming out soon.
What ? Where's the 1970 LT1 / Z28 ??
No Camaro 🤯
THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE A LIST OF ANEMIC DOGS THAT SUCK
Not for 1970! Plenty of Camaros in our other years if you check them out!
Sad thing is the LAST Pontiac GTO wasn't much faster than the old one. 13.2 vs 13.6...BTW the PONTIAC 455's were waaay more powerful than the best 400's they put out.
Those '73 & '74 SD-455's had a legit 315 & 290 hp in each year.
The days of "gross hp" ended, starting in '72. And went to "net hp".
That's why those high hp days dropped drastically.
Not no 400 Ram Air IV. The 73-74 455 SD bout the only decent 455 Pontiac produced, compared to there 400 engines.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 The 400 in the early GTO/Firebirds were horrid, and so were the 400 Olds series. The 389 would outrun them, all you had to do was make mechanical linkage instead of vaccum to all 3 2bbls.
Not so. RA4 400 was a complete beast monster! Advertised HP ,370 ponies. Actual about 420-440 ponies.
@@antoniotutt4894 Yes, but MOST people didn't have the ram air versions. I'm just talking about generally overall.
I’ll take it! Any one of them.
Me too!! 😂
None of them would beat a Super Bee 440 Six Pack, and I'm a Chevy guy.
Oh come on now! Be honest! I'll bet you own a Super Bee 440 Six Pack!
Boss 429 was HIGHLY detuned. A few minor tweeks and it is by far the fastest car on this list.
Not Hardly poor combination of camshaft, too large intake and head ports and to large diameter valves.. Poor low end torque characteristics.
@@billdedrick1914 As I said.... needed some "tweeks".... The Boss was a detuned (as you point out) full race engine. None of the other cars were as "limited" as the Boss.
The Australian Ford Falcon Gt was faster than some of those cars
All those Boss 429 Mustangs are 69's, not 70.
This video was all about the fastest PRODUCTION MODELS IN OEM TRIM TUNED TO FACTORY SPECIFICATIONS! The November 1970 issue of Car Craft magazine CERTIFIED the 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6 coupe with M22 close ratio 4-speed transmission and 3.91:1 positraction rear differential as THE # 1 FASTEST OEM PRODUCTION car for 1970, HANDS DOWN! The numbers in this video are EXACTLY CORRECT! However, the 1970 Plymouth HEMI 'Cuda coupe with the 426 CID 425 HP dual 4 barrel carbs, 4 speed A833 teansmission, and Dana 60 Super Trac Pack limited-slip differential with 4.10:1 rear gears in OEM PRODUCTION specifications came in SECOND to the 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6 previously mentioned; and was faster than the 1970 Buick Skylark GS-X Stage 1 coupe! In deference to the Buick, one which I had driven brand new, it was no slouch at 510 lb. ft. of torque, no power robbing steering, brakes, or A/C! Remember ALL the manufacturers played games with ADVERTISED horsepower and torque ratings!
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454 monte carlo my friend owned a very fast one. Lol.
Probably has some cool stories!
440 six pack was the fastest stock
Disagree I owned an original 70 Challenger R/T 440-6 and it was not as quick as my 70 Chevelle SS454 LS-6 or 70 Buick GS 455 Stage 1
Fastest 4 door in the world was the Australian 1971 XY GTHO ford falcon. 13.9
To be honest with you I’m not at all familiar with Australian models! Thanks for sharing.
Too bad you generally couldnt get the hemi in their small bodies lik valiant dart.
Ford thunderbolt was the fastest production car.. I think it does pretty good in 2024 to
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