Just got a tooth extraction done after recording this video. Now that I can't open my mouth I suddenly crave some burgers. Time Stamps Intro to EdgeTX 01:48 Change default channel order 02:26 Explaining Input-Output 04:00 Outputs 04:17 Mixes 06:09 Inputs 09:21 Input-Output diagram 12:33 Drift car setup 12:44 What I want to do with MT12 14:17 Assign switch or knob to CH3 17:05 FWD and RWD rate on the fly 21:34 Use special functions to adjust G values 26:40 Activate module for a new model 32:31 Steering EPA setup 34:12 Handbrake button for drift car 39:16
Hope you are doing better. I have question regarding Dual rate setting shown in the video. Is it done specifically for your application? the part that confused me is the part where you set 30 from 1024 and 70 respectivily from the Global variable
@@adityamody8942 Yes, the value is specifically what I want in this application. That's because I assign the trim switch to change (adjust) the global variable directly in the special function. Basically 1 press will increase or decrease it by 1 value. So, I need to set the min and max value on each GV. For example, if you want the dual rates (weight) to go from 0 to 100 then you can change the values, min = 0, max = 100 then assign a switch to adjust the GV. Then assign that GV to weight of the channel (or input) you want.
@@BeaversHobby Thank you for this video, I would like to setup my TX like a standard Car Tx, and use P1 as a dual rate for Steering, can we connect via email?
Great video!!! I just received an MT12 last week and new to Edge. I quickly tried to set up EPA on a car and was instantly confused.. thanks for the time stamp and it all makes sense now!!!! Great budget radio!!! Oh and now I want that little drift car!!
I made it myself, cut from the movie. Here's the link. drive.google.com/file/d/14ZuEQbFtVH7sDa-JgkqpHMpa4i72byiT/view?usp=sharing Put it in EdgeTX SD Card \SOUNDS\en\SYSTEM
Things that usually take a few button presses to access on RC4GS is a menu within a menu on MT12. Don't get me wrong, MT12 is great if you actually use the open-ended customization effectively. Otherwise it's overly complicated.
Hey Beaver! heard your MT12 made a custom sound on startup...how the hell did you do that?! scouted the internet trying to find a way but couldn't. thanks for the help in advance...and great video, very informative!
Oh... the Obi-Wan's Hello there. You'll need to name the file hello.wav. Then insert the EdgeTX SD card into your PC, navigate to \SOUNDS\en\SYSTEM and replace the original file with yours. You might need to play around with the bitrate to get it working. The one I use is 16 bit, 16 kHz sampling rate and 250 kb/s bit rate. drive.google.com/file/d/14ZuEQbFtVH7sDa-JgkqpHMpa4i72byiT/view?usp=sharing
MT12 4-in-1 Multiprotocol version because it will bind to the car directly without having to buy an extra part. Sure, the initial setup can be difficult but it will work great with the car.
@@angelikakurowicka7182 The MT12 ELRS version is within 4.16ms difference between it and Flysky NB4 running on AFHDS3. While using with Mini-Z it should have the same latency due to the protocol.
Again thank you for your answer!! Think am going for the mt12 (4in1) then. 1 more question! 🙂 what receiver is then recommended to take if i buy a EVO later on. Just the normal one or can you bind up with the flysky one? To have better latency for example? Thank you again!! @@BeaversHobby
@@angelikakurowicka7182 To use the MT12 4-in-1 with Mini-Z EVO you'll need the Mini-Z FHSS receiver part number 82041, the one with white antenna for KT-531P. Basically you'll run the same protocol as Kyosho Mini-Z FHSS.
Only the 4-in-1 version and you'll have to select the AFHDS protocol to use with a receiver like this. www.gt55racing.com/products/gt55racing-flysky-afhds-built-in-gyro-nano-rx?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D It doesn't work with the Futaba, Sanwa and NB4 combo with V5 gyro integrated.
I usually use Marka Racing 350mAh battery. This is the standard size for most of the cars and it's the flat battery too. Another one is GNB 300-350mAh HV.
I followed your guide and am really liking how everything feels! I do, however, have an issue with the gyro gain with my yokomo v4. It seems my gyro adjustment is somehow also changing the endpoints on the gyro... any solution you may have for this?
The gyro doesn't reach the same angle after adjusting gain sounds normal. That's the same with or without EPA. You can check if the EPA is still the same by steering the car while it's stationary and see if it can still reach the maximum steering after adjusting gain. If you turn the gain down and somehow you can't steer to the max while it's not moving then there's a problem and maybe you'll need to reset the gyro or try another channel/output frequency.
@BeaversHobby yes this is what I mean. The epa changes along with the gain. The higher the gain, the higher the endpoints. I have the channel at 333hz atm
@@Limitless_Potato That is so weird. Usually the 2 are set separately and EPA is controlled outside of the dial. There's nothing on the manual either. Can you try using it without the gain channel connected and adjust it on the dial on the gyro unit? If the problem still persists on that dial too then it might be faulty or it just doesn't really like ELRS receiver.
@@Limitless_Potato A channel only outputs 1 axis. Basically it outputs the pulse from 1000 to 2000 where 1500 is the neutral or centre. The graph in the menu shows x axis as the input value and y axis as the output value.
Hi! I enjoy your very informative and useful videos very much. Followed your upgrade advice with WLtoys cars, it was helpful. Could I ask for help? The car doesn't move backwards, the breaks don't work either. What could be the problem? The forward and turns work perfectly. Thanks in advance!
It might be possible that the throttle trim is off centre. The new version shouldn't have that so it should work as long as you don't push or pull the throttle when binding or turning it on. If the problem still persists, try and pull the throttle a bit then bind it to the car. If nothing works then I'm afraid the all in one unit might be faulty.
Hello Beavers Hobby i was wondering if you could make a TG racing drift chassis video on how to build it and maybe review it because there isnt much on youtube :) like your videos and keep goin!
Yes, the FHSS version with white antenna and FHS version with blue antenna both work with 4 in 1 out of the box. Just like what I did with the TX16S a while back.
There's one manufacture from Greece that does it. It also increases the grip as far as I know. There are more effective ways to reduce the noise. As long as there are tyres spinning there will be noise so one way to do is to dampen the surface. Use short hair carpet/office carpet or moketa and the noise will go away. If you have a vinyl drift track then put some EVA mats or freight mats under the vinyl sheet will help a lot.
Hello mr Beaver, i think about purchasing the mt12 4in1 variant but do you know if the irangex external module is better than the one integrated on the transmitter?
It'll work the same. I don't see any difference when using the internal module (of the TX16S) and the external. Basically it depends what will you use the most, ELRS or 4-in-1. If you mainly use it with cars that support 4-in-1 protocols then getting that version is better because you don't have to keep plugging in and out the module. Mostly because it doesn't fit inside the carrying case and you'll have to take the module out when putting the transmitter in the case. I use the ELRS because I install my own receiver and it's one of the fastest protocol available.
It's BMR-X standard edition. www.gt55racing.com/products/bm-racing-1-24-scale-bmr-x-rwd-drift-chassis-kit-standard-version-bmrx-s?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D Despite some flaws like it being noisy and the servo horn might rub against the top deck and wear out over time, it's one of the best value for money chassis with great performance. You'll need its own wheels and 22mm tyres to go with it too. www.gt55racing.com/products/bm-racing-bmr-x-22mm-026-1-offset-changeable-bbs-mesh-rim-2-pcs-white-bmrx026-3w?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D www.gt55racing.com/products/1-24-mini-z-22mm-flat-drift-tire-high-hardness-4-pcs-ghfa2227?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D GT55 is on holidays now, I think. I don't know when will they ship the order.
Some servos and gyros that can be programmed via SBUS are not compatible with ELRS receiver. I don't know which one is at fault so you can try and connect the servo directly to the receiver and see if it still works. If so then the problem is at the gyro. If you use a 4 or 5 channel receiver then you can config the output of channel 1 (where you connect the gyro/servo) to pin 4 or 5 on the receiver to avoid the glitch.
@@tl924 I'm not sure what could trigger the gyro to not working but I think you should try using the gyro without channel 3 or the gain connected first to see if the gyro works correctly. Also try and plug the servo into channel 3 or whichever you set the VR (for gyro gain) to see if that also works. If the gain adjustment moves the servo then use that channel for the gain adjustment. It might be that the output isn't mapped to the channel correctly in the settings so the gyro stays at 0 gain.
…what receiver is used?….what protocol does the receiver use?….what protocol in radiomaster tm12 if multiprotocol is used?…what brand of car is used…what elrs receiver is used if it is?…
The receiver is RadioMaster ER3C-i with ELRS protocol. (Here's how to activate the fastest response + latency test ua-cam.com/video/7fGCVn0OsNI/v-deo.html ) If it's the multiprotocol then you can select anything available on this list. They'll be in the menu. github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/Protocols_Details.md#available-protocol-table-of-contents-listed-alphabetically I plan to do a video about about using MT12 with multiprotocol + Mini-Z FHSS too. The car is BMR-X (Quick review ua-cam.com/video/jt48ORBBjFY/v-deo.html )
Thank you sooooo much…coming from rc planes for 50 years and elrs and radiomaster since they started…tinkered with opentx and edgetx since they started…but completely lost with cars…built five hoovers for my drift craving and the mt12…i will use your advice as a sign from heaven…im so grateful and you are very kind…
Yes, it's called BMR-X. It's front motor rear wheel drive and really easy to drift as well. Here's a short review. ua-cam.com/video/jt48ORBBjFY/v-deo.html (Don't worry, this one is actually short.)
![☀ Аппаратура РУ с биполярочкой. [Radiomaster MT12]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gGl-9PuuMNY/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[Review] RadioMaster MT12 - Surface Transmitter with EdgeTX](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZoMTnpdOhSI/mqdefault.jpg)
Just got a tooth extraction done after recording this video. Now that I can't open my mouth I suddenly crave some burgers.
Time Stamps
Intro to EdgeTX 01:48
Change default channel order 02:26
Explaining Input-Output 04:00
Outputs 04:17
Mixes 06:09
Inputs 09:21
Input-Output diagram 12:33
Drift car setup 12:44
What I want to do with MT12 14:17
Assign switch or knob to CH3 17:05
FWD and RWD rate on the fly 21:34
Use special functions to adjust G values 26:40
Activate module for a new model 32:31
Steering EPA setup 34:12
Handbrake button for drift car 39:16
Hope you are doing better. I have question regarding Dual rate setting shown in the video. Is it done specifically for your application?
the part that confused me is the part where you set 30 from 1024 and 70 respectivily from the Global variable
@@adityamody8942 Yes, the value is specifically what I want in this application. That's because I assign the trim switch to change (adjust) the global variable directly in the special function. Basically 1 press will increase or decrease it by 1 value. So, I need to set the min and max value on each GV. For example, if you want the dual rates (weight) to go from 0 to 100 then you can change the values, min = 0, max = 100 then assign a switch to adjust the GV. Then assign that GV to weight of the channel (or input) you want.
@@BeaversHobby Thank you for this video, I would like to setup my TX like a standard Car Tx, and use P1 as a dual rate for Steering, can we connect via email?
@@adityamody8942 Yes, certainly! Feel free to email me at beavershobby@gmail.com .
I'm also on facebook if you'd like.
@@BeaversHobby following you on facebook thank you
Thank you for making my rc life much easier now. I'm liking my new MT12.
Very good job on this. All the other channels just show the how-to, you provide us some of the why it does what it it does.
Great video!!! I just received an MT12 last week and new to Edge. I quickly tried to set up EPA on a car and was instantly confused.. thanks for the time stamp and it all makes sense now!!!! Great budget radio!!! Oh and now I want that little drift car!!
Please tell me how you got the file for the obi wan "Hello there"
I made it myself, cut from the movie. Here's the link. drive.google.com/file/d/14ZuEQbFtVH7sDa-JgkqpHMpa4i72byiT/view?usp=sharing
Put it in EdgeTX SD Card \SOUNDS\en\SYSTEM
I stick with my Radiolink RC4GSV3 that thing is simple and it works 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Things that usually take a few button presses to access on RC4GS is a menu within a menu on MT12. Don't get me wrong, MT12 is great if you actually use the open-ended customization effectively. Otherwise it's overly complicated.
Hey Beaver!
heard your MT12 made a custom sound on startup...how the hell did you do that?! scouted the internet trying to find a way but couldn't.
thanks for the help in advance...and great video, very informative!
Oh... the Obi-Wan's Hello there.
You'll need to name the file hello.wav. Then insert the EdgeTX SD card into your PC, navigate to \SOUNDS\en\SYSTEM and replace the original file with yours.
You might need to play around with the bitrate to get it working.
The one I use is 16 bit, 16 kHz sampling rate and 250 kb/s bit rate. drive.google.com/file/d/14ZuEQbFtVH7sDa-JgkqpHMpa4i72byiT/view?usp=sharing
@@BeaversHobby thanks a lot, works wonders!
only issue i have is that the sound is repeated twice.
🤔have you had the same issue?
@@BigTomi98 That's strange. I don't have the repeated sound. I think you should check if there's any duplicate hello.wav in the card.
Would you rather buy the Flysky nb4 or the radiomaster mt12 (4in1) for mini z (standard not the EVO version). Thanks already!!
MT12 4-in-1 Multiprotocol version because it will bind to the car directly without having to buy an extra part. Sure, the initial setup can be difficult but it will work great with the car.
Thank you for the answer. Will the Radiomaster have the same latency of a Flysky? @@BeaversHobby
@@angelikakurowicka7182 The MT12 ELRS version is within 4.16ms difference between it and Flysky NB4 running on AFHDS3.
While using with Mini-Z it should have the same latency due to the protocol.
Again thank you for your answer!! Think am going for the mt12 (4in1) then. 1 more question! 🙂 what receiver is then recommended to take if i buy a EVO later on. Just the normal one or can you bind up with the flysky one? To have better latency for example? Thank you again!!
@@BeaversHobby
@@angelikakurowicka7182 To use the MT12 4-in-1 with Mini-Z EVO you'll need the Mini-Z FHSS receiver part number 82041, the one with white antenna for KT-531P. Basically you'll run the same protocol as Kyosho Mini-Z FHSS.
Will this work with the gt55 gyro/rx combos?
Only the 4-in-1 version and you'll have to select the AFHDS protocol to use with a receiver like this. www.gt55racing.com/products/gt55racing-flysky-afhds-built-in-gyro-nano-rx?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D
It doesn't work with the Futaba, Sanwa and NB4 combo with V5 gyro integrated.
Question, what’s the standard battery you run in the 1/24-1/28 scale drift? Also good brands? Complete newbie just wanting to get into it
I usually use Marka Racing 350mAh battery. This is the standard size for most of the cars and it's the flat battery too.
Another one is GNB 300-350mAh HV.
I followed your guide and am really liking how everything feels! I do, however, have an issue with the gyro gain with my yokomo v4. It seems my gyro adjustment is somehow also changing the endpoints on the gyro... any solution you may have for this?
The gyro doesn't reach the same angle after adjusting gain sounds normal. That's the same with or without EPA.
You can check if the EPA is still the same by steering the car while it's stationary and see if it can still reach the maximum steering after adjusting gain. If you turn the gain down and somehow you can't steer to the max while it's not moving then there's a problem and maybe you'll need to reset the gyro or try another channel/output frequency.
@BeaversHobby yes this is what I mean. The epa changes along with the gain. The higher the gain, the higher the endpoints. I have the channel at 333hz atm
@@Limitless_Potato That is so weird. Usually the 2 are set separately and EPA is controlled outside of the dial. There's nothing on the manual either. Can you try using it without the gain channel connected and adjust it on the dial on the gyro unit? If the problem still persists on that dial too then it might be faulty or it just doesn't really like ELRS receiver.
@BeaversHobby I checked the settings. Looks like on ch3 x on the graph adjust end points and y adjust the gain
@@Limitless_Potato A channel only outputs 1 axis. Basically it outputs the pulse from 1000 to 2000 where 1500 is the neutral or centre. The graph in the menu shows x axis as the input value and y axis as the output value.
Hi! I enjoy your very informative and useful videos very much. Followed your upgrade advice with WLtoys cars, it was helpful. Could I ask for help? The car doesn't move backwards, the breaks don't work either. What could be the problem? The forward and turns work perfectly. Thanks in advance!
It might be possible that the throttle trim is off centre. The new version shouldn't have that so it should work as long as you don't push or pull the throttle when binding or turning it on. If the problem still persists, try and pull the throttle a bit then bind it to the car. If nothing works then I'm afraid the all in one unit might be faulty.
@@BeaversHobby Thanks a lot!
Hello Beavers Hobby i was wondering if you could make a TG racing drift chassis video on how to build it and maybe review it because there isnt much on youtube :) like your videos and keep goin!
Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't got the car yet. Not sure when but I'm thinking about it.
Can you make ddf 350 settings?
I'll keep that in mind and probably come around to do it one day.
@@BeaversHobby ty am kinda new to this hobby that why😃, waiting for ur video
does the 4in1 version binds to a miniz awd without switching recievers?
Yes, the FHSS version with white antenna and FHS version with blue antenna both work with 4 in 1 out of the box. Just like what I did with the TX16S a while back.
@@BeaversHobby thanks for your rapid response 😁
Im looking for mini z drift tyres that are hard rubber not plastic so lower noise. Any ideas which? Actualy for wl toys k series and 22mm prefered
There's one manufacture from Greece that does it. It also increases the grip as far as I know.
There are more effective ways to reduce the noise. As long as there are tyres spinning there will be noise so one way to do is to dampen the surface. Use short hair carpet/office carpet or moketa and the noise will go away. If you have a vinyl drift track then put some EVA mats or freight mats under the vinyl sheet will help a lot.
Thanks very much. That realy helps
@@JamieKehoe85 My pleasure.
@@BeaversHobby Hello Beaver, who's the manufacturer you're talking about? (i'm in Greece too)
Congratulations for the awesome content you create!!!!
@@putulis9474 I'm trying to look for the link of the tyre. I'll send you later.
Hello mr Beaver, i think about purchasing the mt12 4in1 variant but do you know if the irangex external module is better than the one integrated on the transmitter?
It'll work the same. I don't see any difference when using the internal module (of the TX16S) and the external.
Basically it depends what will you use the most, ELRS or 4-in-1. If you mainly use it with cars that support 4-in-1 protocols then getting that version is better because you don't have to keep plugging in and out the module. Mostly because it doesn't fit inside the carrying case and you'll have to take the module out when putting the transmitter in the case.
I use the ELRS because I install my own receiver and it's one of the fastest protocol available.
Hi great video. What car is that. I am looking for a small drift car that I can use my own transmitter mt12 and receiver
Oops just saw you answered this below ! Thanks for great video
hello Beaver
Can it be used as a multi-transmitter for turbo racing?
Unfortunately, no. At least not at the moment. We're gonna have to wait until the Multiprotocol project finally include the turbo racing protocol.
Which car is this, any link available
It's BMR-X standard edition. www.gt55racing.com/products/bm-racing-1-24-scale-bmr-x-rwd-drift-chassis-kit-standard-version-bmrx-s?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D
Despite some flaws like it being noisy and the servo horn might rub against the top deck and wear out over time, it's one of the best value for money chassis with great performance.
You'll need its own wheels and 22mm tyres to go with it too. www.gt55racing.com/products/bm-racing-bmr-x-22mm-026-1-offset-changeable-bbs-mesh-rim-2-pcs-white-bmrx026-3w?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D
www.gt55racing.com/products/1-24-mini-z-22mm-flat-drift-tire-high-hardness-4-pcs-ghfa2227?DIST=RUZBGw%3D%3D
GT55 is on holidays now, I think. I don't know when will they ship the order.
I used your model back up and for some reason my servo will not work. Dp302V4 Gyro functions and gain is adjusteable but servo will not function.
Some servos and gyros that can be programmed via SBUS are not compatible with ELRS receiver.
I don't know which one is at fault so you can try and connect the servo directly to the receiver and see if it still works. If so then the problem is at the gyro. If you use a 4 or 5 channel receiver then you can config the output of channel 1 (where you connect the gyro/servo) to pin 4 or 5 on the receiver to avoid the glitch.
@@BeaversHobby well it's 4into1, agfrc 19kg servo, and Yokomo Dp-302 V4 gyro.
@@tl924 Try using only the servo first to see if channel 1 works correctly.
@@BeaversHobby I did that and it works. Could it be a setting In your backup that's stopping the gyro from working the servo?
@@tl924 I'm not sure what could trigger the gyro to not working but I think you should try using the gyro without channel 3 or the gain connected first to see if the gyro works correctly.
Also try and plug the servo into channel 3 or whichever you set the VR (for gyro gain) to see if that also works. If the gain adjustment moves the servo then use that channel for the gain adjustment.
It might be that the output isn't mapped to the channel correctly in the settings so the gyro stays at 0 gain.
thank you!
…what receiver is used?….what protocol does the receiver use?….what protocol in radiomaster tm12 if multiprotocol is used?…what brand of car is used…what elrs receiver is used if it is?…
The receiver is RadioMaster ER3C-i with ELRS protocol. (Here's how to activate the fastest response + latency test ua-cam.com/video/7fGCVn0OsNI/v-deo.html )
If it's the multiprotocol then you can select anything available on this list. They'll be in the menu. github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/Protocols_Details.md#available-protocol-table-of-contents-listed-alphabetically I plan to do a video about about using MT12 with multiprotocol + Mini-Z FHSS too.
The car is BMR-X (Quick review ua-cam.com/video/jt48ORBBjFY/v-deo.html )
Thank you sooooo much…coming from rc planes for 50 years and elrs and radiomaster since they started…tinkered with opentx and edgetx since they started…but completely lost with cars…built five hoovers for my drift craving and the mt12…i will use your advice as a sign from heaven…im so grateful and you are very kind…
@@JohnStenborg Glad to be of service.
IS THAT CHASSIS FR?
So cool!
Yes, it's called BMR-X. It's front motor rear wheel drive and really easy to drift as well.
Here's a short review. ua-cam.com/video/jt48ORBBjFY/v-deo.html (Don't worry, this one is actually short.)