I'm going to have to agree what someone else said. This shelter is amazing. You made a great purchase. This shelter is ridiculously light and considering the current crop of UL tents are quite a bit heavier you can't go wrong. People think they need inner tents, but I would say that is largely due to fear. I use the tarp configuration most of the year and have no issues with animals or bugs. Unexpectedly, it is also my fiance's favorite tent and I never thought she would go for a tarp shelter. We use the inner to deal with bug pressure when needed during a 3 week period in the summer. That is it. Condensation happens on all tent flys people just aren't used to seeing it as they are in an innertent. You killed it making this purchase. I would like to hear how you got on with the tent.
alpsalish, depending on location, a bug shelter of some sort is an absolute necessity, and has nothing to do with fear. Have you ever been in high latitudes in summer? I would guess if you had, you wouldn’t make this kind of comment. The times when you don’t need a bug net is when it’s cold enough that they aren’t an issue. But thick mosquito and tick action just won’t work. And i’m not talking about a few mosquitoes that just buzz around, but rather the relentless pressure you’ll find especially at 55* north and higher latitude. My intended use for this tent would be shoulder seasons and winter when high winds are not expected. I just worry about ventilation when cooking and the weather is raging outside
@@wlcrutch I disagree. Many people in the camping and backpacking world require an inner due to fear. People pack their fears. Also, I stated the inner being required for bug pressure. That is precisely why I own the inner. Everyone's bug pressure window is different. Where I live it is relatively short. I've been to high latitudes and understand what the bugs are like. Knowledge of where you are headed is anyone's best guide in planning. In any case, the Beta Light has been used during the shoulder seasons in many environments. I think the largest gripe is usually the lack of extra guy out points. For the price, it would be hard to pass on this configuration. Resell it if you don't like it.
Nice review. I have the newest version. Seam sealed. It’s huge inside for sure. Two people fit easily and gear and cooking to boot. I bought two carbon tent poles to use my trekking poles on layover days. Outstanding geometry! Guy out points all over to make it really bomber. Bug net rim at bottom of modern version ingenious. Total mine is 2.5 pounds with guy-out line and a dozen Groundhog stakes. Much better than pyramid shape shelter.
I use silicone waterproofing spray that I buy from Walmart...I set the trap up spray it down let it dry for a couple of hours then I spray it down again...I let it dry set up for a couple of days then take the tarp down and set it up again inside out...then I do the same procedure that I did on the front, to the inside out set up...I let everything dry for a couple of days...This shelter will not leak...I can guarantee it...you don't want to spray so much silicone waterproofing add to your shelter that it will run...it will dry will strikes from the silicone spray if you do... Condensation is alleviated by how high you steak it...this is a shape tarp you can have a 4 to 6 inch air gap all around the base of it... I love this shelter, it's simplistic, ultra lightweight and packs small...
how does it handle high winds? and cooking inside? how do you vent it when it’s pissing snow outside? I am strongly considering this as my mild weather winter (read: snow/ice) shelter
@@wlcrutch Black Diamond Mega Light or Mega Light Snow (which has flaps of fabric that hang down maybe 6” around the bottom) would be the ideal shelter for what it sounds like you’re looking for. Great in the snow, better than average for cooking inside, and it’s light weight vs a 4 season tent helps offset the weight of the extra stove fuel needed during winter. They are regularly used in Denali Basecamp as the kitchen/dinning tent. The design can hold up to high winds pretty well, better obviously if the guy lines are properly staked out. Dead Man’s anchors can be utilized (instead of stakes or pickets like you would in the ground) for additional storm worthiness
Nice initial review on the Beta Light. I’ve looked into it as an alternative to the Black Diamond Mega Light (current version of the Mega Mid, single pole floor less shelter), as I became a fan of these type of shelters after spending approximately 30 nights in one while backcountry skiing. It would be great to hear what your thoughts on the Beta Light are now that you have owned it for a while.
I actually just got back from a 4 day trip! I've used it a few times now. Love how light it is and how small it packs. Also decently weatherproof. I used it during an actual snowstorm once, no prob. IMO the big downside is the lack of bug protection. This was a huge issue on the last trip. However, I see that the newer version has a bug net. Of course it comes out after I buy this one... 😅
You would not last 5 min after sundown in that tent in northern Georgian Bay or anywhere in Ontario or Quebec. If I need to tell you why then you are from another planet.
3:55 .... 'Where the Gods piss on us mortals profusely 3/4s of the year' lololol
I live in Pacific Northwest coast 🇨🇦 his absolutely correct lol 💦
yeah, had a good chuckle there
I'm going to have to agree what someone else said. This shelter is amazing. You made a great purchase. This shelter is ridiculously light and considering the current crop of UL tents are quite a bit heavier you can't go wrong. People think they need inner tents, but I would say that is largely due to fear. I use the tarp configuration most of the year and have no issues with animals or bugs. Unexpectedly, it is also my fiance's favorite tent and I never thought she would go for a tarp shelter. We use the inner to deal with bug pressure when needed during a 3 week period in the summer. That is it. Condensation happens on all tent flys people just aren't used to seeing it as they are in an innertent. You killed it making this purchase. I would like to hear how you got on with the tent.
Works amazing so far! I've even used it in a snowstorm. Thinking about making a review sometime.
I've been thinking about getting this one. Good to know!
@@forsakenpath4992 would be very interested in your review as a winter shelter.
alpsalish, depending on location, a bug shelter of some sort is an absolute necessity, and has nothing to do with fear. Have you ever been in high latitudes in summer? I would guess if you had, you wouldn’t make this kind of comment. The times when you don’t need a bug net is when it’s cold enough that they aren’t an issue. But thick mosquito and tick action just won’t work. And i’m not talking about a few mosquitoes that just buzz around, but rather the relentless pressure you’ll find especially at 55* north and higher latitude. My intended use for this tent would be shoulder seasons and winter when high winds are not expected. I just worry about ventilation when cooking and the weather is raging outside
@@wlcrutch I disagree. Many people in the camping and backpacking world require an inner due to fear. People pack their fears. Also, I stated the inner being required for bug pressure. That is precisely why I own the inner. Everyone's bug pressure window is different. Where I live it is relatively short. I've been to high latitudes and understand what the bugs are like. Knowledge of where you are headed is anyone's best guide in planning.
In any case, the Beta Light has been used during the shoulder seasons in many environments. I think the largest gripe is usually the lack of extra guy out points. For the price, it would be hard to pass on this configuration. Resell it if you don't like it.
Nice review. I have the newest version. Seam sealed. It’s huge inside for sure. Two people fit easily and gear and cooking to boot. I bought two carbon tent poles to use my trekking poles on layover days. Outstanding geometry! Guy out points all over to make it really bomber. Bug net rim at bottom of modern version ingenious. Total mine is 2.5 pounds with guy-out line and a dozen Groundhog stakes. Much better than pyramid shape shelter.
I use silicone waterproofing spray that I buy from Walmart...I set the trap up spray it down let it dry for a couple of hours then I spray it down again...I let it dry set up for a couple of days then take the tarp down and set it up again inside out...then I do the same procedure that I did on the front, to the inside out set up...I let everything dry for a couple of days...This shelter will not leak...I can guarantee it...you don't want to spray so much silicone waterproofing add to your shelter that it will run...it will dry will strikes from the silicone spray if you do...
Condensation is alleviated by how high you steak it...this is a shape tarp you can have a 4 to 6 inch air gap all around the base of it...
I love this shelter, it's simplistic, ultra lightweight and packs small...
This is really a cold weather tent. It’s more for shelter from rain and snow. I love mine. Good video.
how does it handle high winds? and cooking inside? how do you vent it when it’s pissing snow outside? I am strongly considering this as my mild weather winter (read: snow/ice) shelter
@@wlcrutch Black Diamond Mega Light or Mega Light Snow (which has flaps of fabric that hang down maybe 6” around the bottom) would be the ideal shelter for what it sounds like you’re looking for. Great in the snow, better than average for cooking inside, and it’s light weight vs a 4 season tent helps offset the weight of the extra stove fuel needed during winter. They are regularly used in Denali Basecamp as the kitchen/dinning tent. The design can hold up to high winds pretty well, better obviously if the guy lines are properly staked out. Dead Man’s anchors can be utilized (instead of stakes or pickets like you would in the ground) for additional storm worthiness
Nice initial review on the Beta Light. I’ve looked into it as an alternative to the Black Diamond Mega Light (current version of the Mega Mid, single pole floor less shelter), as I became a fan of these type of shelters after spending approximately 30 nights in one while backcountry skiing.
It would be great to hear what your thoughts on the Beta Light are now that you have owned it for a while.
I actually just got back from a 4 day trip! I've used it a few times now. Love how light it is and how small it packs. Also decently weatherproof. I used it during an actual snowstorm once, no prob. IMO the big downside is the lack of bug protection. This was a huge issue on the last trip. However, I see that the newer version has a bug net. Of course it comes out after I buy this one... 😅
Great review, thx.
Great review! I'm seriously considering getting one of these!
@paul b Nice! I wanted to use it as a shelter for my OR Alpine Bivy. It could be a great combination.
Would you be able to fit two wide pads in?
Really informative review thanks for the video 👍
nice review
Muchas gracias por el review!!
You would not last 5 min after sundown in that tent in northern Georgian Bay or anywhere in Ontario or Quebec. If I need to tell you why then you are from another planet.