RH suffered a great loss when Kate Mulgrew left; and even though Ilene Kristen eventually returned, she was 'let go' due to weight gain..so many of these shows have been so good, but suffer from instability, which can serve to drive an audience away..consistency is in our nature...
I had no idea that Ilene like Candice Early (Donna Beck Cortlandt Tyler) appeared in productions of Grease. As for the Weight Gain, that's sad. In the UK there's an Actress named Letitia Dean who plays Sharon Mitchell on Eastenders whose gained weight but she's so popular that fans overlook it.
Kate Mulgrew is a wonderful actress but a bitter shrew of a human being. Read up on her systemic bullying of Geri Ryan on Star Trek. Ensembles cannot hope to revive if a lead matriarch is too good for the rest of them.
Marie VLaRoq I've read about that and Kate Mulgrew apologized for it, and now Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan get along just fine. Because if you watched that reunion they did last year for the actors fund you see that Jeri forgave Kate and they both put it behind them, and now they get along just fine.
Delia and Mary scenes were great. The disgust Mary felt about Delia and Delia knew how to push Mary's buttons. Before Mary had come upstairs to to see Delia, Faith had paid Delia a visit, too. Wish that had been included here as well.
I was just going to write it’s in the writing as well as the acting. The four soaps we have left stopped trying decades ago… barely going through the motions these days…if that. It’s a comfort to be able to see them & tune in, however. In any event, UA-cam rabbit hole finding gems from the 1970’s…I was a child but remember the era, decor, feeling, smell, hearing Kate & Irene takes me back. These shows are like long ago family.
Wow, two women arguing on a soap and the word “Bitch” wasn’t used or a useless catfight. There was a time when daytime actually had some type of class and dignity.
Yes Mary is pregnant. Or else Ryan Maeve Fenelli wouldn't exist..... Kate Mulgrew was pregnant in real life at the time. Her pregnancy was written into the storyline.
Man sometimes I wish they would have gotten Kate Mulgrew on One Life To Live in the days when Roxy was real mean to Natalie and they could have casted her as someone from Roxy’s past who was friends with Viki.
Kate Mulgrew was wonderful on this show and should have stayed on it for a few more years. The show suffered after she left I think since her character was very much the center of the entire show.
I only recently saw this scene, and I'm already obsessed with it. Two strong actresses going toe to toe about family and romance issues, and there's nothing cheap and theatrical about it (I'm no prude, but it's nice that Mary didn't call Delia other names).
OK take it from a person who has actually read the book! Kate Mulgrew wrote about Ryan’s Hope and her pregnancy in the book! People who are saying she didn’t obviously did not read the book!
Kate Mulgrew even lists it as one of her first gigs in tv when she does interviews and was promoting her second book How To Forget and even mentions it i that one too even though I didn't read the book I listened to the audiobook that she did of How To Forget.
I don't get why in the 70s acting on soaps get such a bad rep, this scene had good performances. And look at all the top tv actors, esp movie actors who got their start in soaps.
I wish that the series, “A Daytime to Remember,” included canceled shows such as Ryan’s Hope and The Edge of Night. That episode of that show would have been about Delia’s never ending schemes!!!
I think that Ryan's Hope is the only US Soap Opera that had alot of their Action in a Bar. In the UK, Three Of The Soaps have alot of action at the Neighborhood Bar. Coronation Street has The Rovers Return, Emmerdale has The Woolpack and Eastenders has The Queen Victoria aka The Vic. All Three are very Gay Friendly Towns.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one getting B&B vibes from this. Kate Mulgrew was a bit too young to play Stephanie Forrester in 1987, but she has the range for it.
They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back it was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids . they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots
Frank's cheatng on Delia, with Jill, drove Delia over the edge. Frank hotly pursued his brother's girlfriend and then grew tired for her. Not a huge Frank and Jill fan. They deserve each other. Delia ended up with Rodger when the show ended. Awesome!!
Replay soap operas during day is cheap time filler. I think younger generations would watch as well as older people remember and watch. Many of us are retiring and have days free.
I am surprised KM did not acknowledge RH in her book. Every interview I have seen her in, she spoke about RH, the same way Julianne Moore, to this day, speaks on her time on AS THE WORLD TURNS.
Ya know, we all know what Mary thought of Delia, but it makes me wonder how Cathleen and Siobhan would have dealt with her. I don't know about Cathleen, but I think Siobhan didn't like her either.
She talks about "Mrs. Columbo" and "Heartbeats," but ignores "RH" and Voyager, too a point. Yes, she was a theater performer, but she won more awards as Mary Ryan than anything she ever has done and gained the popularity to do more theater and even become Janeway. She absolutely doesn't even acknowledged her three return stints to "RH," either.
My online review of "Born with Teeth: "I genuinely wanted to give this book five stars, but in clear conscience, I can't. Before I read this book, I had some misgivings, but hoped that I was to be in error as to what my fears were----I wasn't.... Let me start off saying that Miss Mulgrew needs to get it through her "classically trained theater" head that, as of this writing, she is best known for two things in her career (very few know of both, but I am one of the lucky ones that do): one, as the heroine Mary Ryan in "Ryan's Hope," and, two, as Captain Kathryn Janeway on "Star Trek: Voyager." Yes, she is part of the cast of "Orange is the New Black," but (once again, as of this writing) that show has not even begun to equal what the aforementioned previous two shows have. RE: her career. So, in that vein, let me say that I am sorely disappointed that she all but ignored her entire tenor in "RH." She mentions being hired, being great friends with Claire Labine and the late Nancy Addison (who portrayed Jillian Coleridge, opposite Mulgrew's Mary Ryan) then just segues into leaving the show, and that's it, period. She never stated why she left, how she felt about not playing Mary Ryan, and utterly and completely ignored her three return stints to the show, et al, as if they never happened. It is painfully obvious that she considered "RH" to be "below her" in terms of acting hierarchy (even though she had won more awards as Mary Ryan than ANY other character in her career). Shameful. Would have loved some anecdotes RE: powerhouses like Helen Gallagher, et al. Mulgrew would still be an unknown in a sea of unknowns in her vaunted New York if it weren't for "RH." She spent more time talking about the crappy series' "Mrs. Columbo" and "Heartbeats" than the groundbreaking "RH" - huh? In the book it was obvious that Nancy Addison was her best friend, but other than a flippant remark about her dying, absolutely nothing was said about how that death affected her (NA died in 2002). As well as ignoring "RH," Miss Mulgrew completely and utter glosses over any and all tensions that might have affected Star Trek: Voyager when Jennifer Lien (who played the alien Ocampa, Kes) was fired and Jeri Ryan (who played half-human, half-Borg, Anika Hansen/07 of 09) was hired. Neither actresses are even mentioned (granted, I didn't want a salacious retelling of the widely reported problems the show had during this transition, but a minor acknowledgment would have been nice. Everything is wholly peaches & cream with Voyager, and nothing is mentioned, not even in a sotto voce manner, about that rough transition in between Seasons 03 and 04). Also, in Miss Mulgrew's misguided hubris, she claims to be the very first female Captain, ever, in Star Trek history - wrong - that would have been the late Madge Sinclair's female Captain of the Saratoga in "Star Trek IV: The Voyager Home." A bit of a nitpick, I realize, but I had to make that correction (Captain Erika Hernandez in " Star Trek: Enterprise" doesn't count because "Enterprise" aired after Voyager left the airwaves and was many, many years after Star Trek IV). The book is riddled with gaps in between chapters that are never explained and there are situations mentioned that are nebulous, at best for the reader, as well as having an ending that is absolutely a big "FU" to the reader----it made no sense and, literally, just stopped. Read it, and you'll see. I am so disappointed with this book, to say the least....."
Soap operas were outstanding back then. These 2 women were two of the best actresses ever.
Child what is " Roxie " from OLTL doing here? Totally different personalities though. 😅
@@cjermainesmith5229 Way Way Way deferent..!!
@@cjermainesmith5229 As an OLTL fan, the "Delia" role gave Ilene K. icon status that it kept me wanting to watch more!
Kate Mulgrew and Ilene Kristen knocked that one out of the park! Such FINE acting!
RH suffered a great loss when Kate Mulgrew left; and even though Ilene Kristen eventually returned, she was 'let go' due to weight gain..so many of these shows have been so good, but suffer from instability, which can serve to drive an audience away..consistency is in our nature...
KM barely acknowledges her time on RY and completely ignored all of her return stints to RY.
I had no idea that Ilene like Candice Early (Donna Beck Cortlandt Tyler) appeared in productions of Grease. As for the Weight Gain, that's sad. In the UK there's an Actress named Letitia Dean who plays Sharon Mitchell on Eastenders whose gained weight but she's so popular that fans overlook it.
Kate Mulgrew is a wonderful actress but a bitter shrew of a human being. Read up on her systemic bullying of Geri Ryan on Star Trek. Ensembles cannot hope to revive if a lead matriarch is too good for the rest of them.
Marie VLaRoq I've read about that and Kate Mulgrew apologized for it, and now Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan get along just fine. Because if you watched that reunion they did last year for the actors fund you see that Jeri forgave Kate and they both put it behind them, and now they get along just fine.
Delia and Mary scenes were great. The disgust Mary felt about Delia and Delia knew how to push Mary's buttons. Before Mary had come upstairs to to see Delia, Faith had paid Delia a visit, too. Wish that had been included here as well.
Well I believe all episodes of Ryan's Hope still exist...
Too bad the same can't be said for AMC and OLTL...
Great writing and acting is what made the soaps awesome
I was just going to write it’s in the writing as well as the acting. The four soaps we have left stopped trying decades ago… barely going through the motions these days…if that. It’s a comfort to be able to see them & tune in, however. In any event, UA-cam rabbit hole finding gems from the 1970’s…I was a child but remember the era, decor, feeling, smell, hearing Kate & Irene takes me back. These shows are like long ago family.
Wow, two women arguing on a soap and the word “Bitch” wasn’t used or a useless catfight. There was a time when daytime actually had some type of class and dignity.
I prefer today, when things are out in the open and not repressed like back then.
@@rah62 Good for you.
Thanks for the upload !! Mary hit hit right out of the park on that one !!
Back when soaps were so good. It was all about character, and Ryan's Hope was the best at it.
"Save the tears for somebody else, dear. They make me want to slap you."
Everytime I watch this, I can't help but think of Sami Brady!!! I don't know why, but she reminds me so much of Delia Ryan. I love this scene!
They're both "bad girls," or at the very least, misunderstood!
Yes Mary is pregnant. Or else Ryan Maeve Fenelli wouldn't exist..... Kate Mulgrew was pregnant in real life at the time. Her pregnancy was written into the storyline.
Same as Rita on Guding light. Right around the same time !! And she had Roger Thrpoe chase her through the mirror house.
THE LITTLE EYEBROW PERK SHE DOES.
Man sometimes I wish they would have gotten Kate Mulgrew on One Life To Live in the days when Roxy was real mean to Natalie and they could have casted her as someone from Roxy’s past who was friends with Viki.
Frank, Pat, Roger, and Matthew Crane would have form a musical group called Delia’s Husbands. Song would’ve been called “Tainted Love.”
Brilliant and so well done
I love Delia, I don’t know why! And the actress is so beautiful
These two were great - Love Kate - she is a greatttttt actress... Captain Janeway rules!!!!
+AlaskAnna22
Janeway ! I knew I'd seen that face before. I was thinking it might be because she reminded me of Katherine Hepburn.
This is why Kate is the definition of Bad ass!!!!🤘😎
Kate Mulgrew was wonderful on this show and should have stayed on it for a few more years. The show suffered after she left I think since her character was very much the center of the entire show.
I only recently saw this scene, and I'm already obsessed with it. Two strong actresses going toe to toe about family and romance issues, and there's nothing cheap and theatrical about it (I'm no prude, but it's nice that Mary didn't call Delia other names).
She could hve said- Well- One day I am going to be a Star Trek Captain.
OK take it from a person who has actually read the book! Kate Mulgrew wrote about Ryan’s Hope and her pregnancy in the book! People who are saying she didn’t obviously did not read the book!
Kate Mulgrew even lists it as one of her first gigs in tv when she does interviews and was promoting her second book How To Forget and even mentions it i that one too even though I didn't read the book I listened to the audiobook that she did of How To Forget.
I don't get why in the 70s acting on soaps get such a bad rep, this scene had good performances.
And look at all the top tv actors, esp movie actors who got their start in soaps.
This Mary and this Dee the best together
God, Kate Mulgrew was so amazing. She was clearly meant for greatness! ❤
I could see the Captain in Mary
I just found out Ilene Kristen is my cousin less than a week ago!
Kavy s too
What’s with all the Kate Hate in this comment section. So she didn’t talk about RH in her book so what it’s HER book. Y’all are whiney!
Either that, or they can't read...
I wish that the series, “A Daytime to Remember,” included canceled shows such as Ryan’s Hope and The Edge of Night. That episode of that show would have been about Delia’s never ending schemes!!!
0:46. She tried putting her hands in her pockets. Lol
Jon Campos lol I saw that😂😂😂
Captain Janeway laying down the LAW.
I think that Ryan's Hope is the only US Soap Opera that had alot of their Action in a Bar. In the UK, Three Of The Soaps have alot of action at the Neighborhood Bar. Coronation Street has The Rovers Return, Emmerdale has The Woolpack and Eastenders has The Queen Victoria aka The Vic. All Three are very Gay Friendly Towns.
Yep. I Loved it.
I would love to see Stephanie and Brooke do that scene together. Somebody would’ve gotten slapped. Lol
I'm glad I wasn't the only one getting B&B vibes from this. Kate Mulgrew was a bit too young to play Stephanie Forrester in 1987, but she has the range for it.
Is Mary pragnent too ? She sure looks like she is.
+MeTheRob How Mary get pragnent?
+Perhonen O
How is babby formed ?
They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back it was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids . they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots
+Perhonen O
Oh dear. What is to be done about this ?
Delia has a miscarriage.
Frank's cheatng on Delia, with Jill, drove Delia over the edge. Frank hotly pursued his brother's girlfriend and then grew tired for her.
Not a huge Frank and Jill fan. They deserve each other. Delia ended up with Rodger when the show ended. Awesome!!
This is Coastal Situations and that Scene would be Tasia and Eve, who has gotten pregnant by her son Tyler! Eve just wants sympathy!!
Delia!!! Lol.
So Delia is Ava Jerome’s mother?
Yes.
Eww! Delia was sooo insecure. Most of the Riverside residents could not stand her.
Delia is the mom of Ava on Genre Hospital
Replay soap operas during day is cheap time filler. I think younger generations would watch as well as older people remember and watch. Many of us are retiring and have days free.
Right
Whatever you feel about the KM book is ok. The unfortunate thing is these two actresses were great and RH was never the same without them
They stopped writing soaps like this. Frank should have kept it in his pants or put a rain coat on.
Just ONE of the MANY MANY reasons I loathe, detest and despise the character of Mary Ryan. Go Delia!!!!!!!!
The Ryans always acted so high and mighty
So true, but Delia is such a train wreck, she was a delight to watch.
I wish for once Delia would smack the self righteous out of Mary! Gosh I can't stand her!
Lol.
I am surprised KM did not acknowledge RH in her book. Every interview I have seen her in, she spoke about RH, the same way Julianne Moore, to this day, speaks on her time on AS THE WORLD TURNS.
She did!!!
Idk what book u read but she definitely addressed RH and her pregnancy/adoption
Terrence Pickett she did speak about it
Yaaaas!!
Ya know, we all know what Mary thought of Delia, but it makes me wonder how Cathleen and Siobhan would have dealt with her. I don't know about Cathleen, but I think Siobhan didn't like her either.
Siobhan was often skeptical & cautious of Delia, but treated her as family.
Mary is Frank’s sister, right
Right. She was being sarcastic.
Kate Mulgrew ... fantastic actress... terrible dress
Kate Mulgrew COMPLETELY IGNORES her time on "RH" in her new autobiography.
T James does anyone have any idea as to why?...
Not a clue. She seems to think that RY is beneath her. She also nearly ignores Voyager, too.
T James in terms of television, i only remember RH, Mrs. Columbo/Kate Loves a Mystery, and ST: V..was she primarily a stage performer?...
She talks about "Mrs. Columbo" and "Heartbeats," but ignores "RH" and Voyager, too a point. Yes, she was a theater performer, but she won more awards as Mary Ryan than anything she ever has done and gained the popularity to do more theater and even become Janeway. She absolutely doesn't even acknowledged her three return stints to "RH," either.
My online review of "Born with Teeth: "I genuinely wanted to give this book five stars, but in clear conscience, I can't. Before I read this book, I had some misgivings, but hoped that I was to be in error as to what my fears were----I wasn't.... Let me start off saying that Miss Mulgrew needs to get it through her "classically trained theater" head that, as of this writing, she is best known for two things in her career (very few know of both, but I am one of the lucky ones that do): one, as the heroine Mary Ryan in "Ryan's Hope," and, two, as Captain Kathryn Janeway on "Star Trek: Voyager." Yes, she is part of the cast of "Orange is the New Black," but (once again, as of this writing) that show has not even begun to equal what the aforementioned previous two shows have. RE: her career. So, in that vein, let me say that I am sorely disappointed that she all but ignored her entire tenor in "RH." She mentions being hired, being great friends with Claire Labine and the late Nancy Addison (who portrayed Jillian Coleridge, opposite Mulgrew's Mary Ryan) then just segues into leaving the show, and that's it, period. She never stated why she left, how she felt about not playing Mary Ryan, and utterly and completely ignored her three return stints to the show, et al, as if they never happened. It is painfully obvious that she considered "RH" to be "below her" in terms of acting hierarchy (even though she had won more awards as Mary Ryan than ANY other character in her career). Shameful. Would have loved some anecdotes RE: powerhouses like Helen Gallagher, et al. Mulgrew would still be an unknown in a sea of unknowns in her vaunted New York if it weren't for "RH." She spent more time talking about the crappy series' "Mrs. Columbo" and "Heartbeats" than the groundbreaking "RH" - huh? In the book it was obvious that Nancy Addison was her best friend, but other than a flippant remark about her dying, absolutely nothing was said about how that death affected her (NA died in 2002). As well as ignoring "RH," Miss Mulgrew completely and utter glosses over any and all tensions that might have affected Star Trek: Voyager when Jennifer Lien (who played the alien Ocampa, Kes) was fired and Jeri Ryan (who played half-human, half-Borg, Anika Hansen/07 of 09) was hired. Neither actresses are even mentioned (granted, I didn't want a salacious retelling of the widely reported problems the show had during this transition, but a minor acknowledgment would have been nice. Everything is wholly peaches & cream with Voyager, and nothing is mentioned, not even in a sotto voce manner, about that rough transition in between Seasons 03 and 04). Also, in Miss Mulgrew's misguided hubris, she claims to be the very first female Captain, ever, in Star Trek history - wrong - that would have been the late Madge Sinclair's female Captain of the Saratoga in "Star Trek IV: The Voyager Home." A bit of a nitpick, I realize, but I had to make that correction (Captain Erika Hernandez in " Star Trek: Enterprise" doesn't count because "Enterprise" aired after Voyager left the airwaves and was many, many years after Star Trek IV). The book is riddled with gaps in between chapters that are never explained and there are situations mentioned that are nebulous, at best for the reader, as well as having an ending that is absolutely a big "FU" to the reader----it made no sense and, literally, just stopped. Read it, and you'll see. I am so disappointed with this book, to say the least....."
Dee should have pushed Mary down the steps