The Career of PK Subban
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- He likely could have played a couple of years beyond what he did in the NHL, but retires with a Norris on his resume which is pretty good.
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It's completely unbelievable that PK Subban retired before Jaromir Jagr.
Right? Jagr was 35 when Subban was drafted! Lmao
Yeah he retired really early, he's only 34 years old. Lots of players are still active at that age and generally have 3-4 years left in them. At least....
I don't think some new fans truly understand the impact PK had on the game and had on Montréal the city itself. He quite literally brought people who had given up on the Habs back into falling in love with the game again. He also helped to reduce racism in hockey. He made people that are from ethnic minorities dream that they, too, could end up playing the sport they love professionally. Sure he had his bad moments, but he loved the game and Montréal more than anyone. Truly blessed to have witnessed him wear a Habs jersey and his legacy will live on forever.
"Reduce racism" wha...?
@@Jim-pq9pm Black players are still called the n-word all over the world in minor hockey… PK had a great impact in trying to make the game for everyone, but it still to this day isn’t…
@@MaverickWall238 Maybe you should write a book about it
Unfortunately everyone saw how the fans reacted after the Weber trade.
Agree with a lot of this, but he might have been one of the most overrated and overpaid player during his time.
Coming soon, the career of Keith Yandle
SONK
After that, the career of Zdeno Chára
@@realBaven he already did that
@@realBaven you missed that
The career of Sean Avery.
j/k lol
I feel like PK is defined by whether you like him or not in the eyes of fans. Like he was talented of course and when he's on your team you like but when he's not you hate him.
I will say from what I've heard of him off the ice he seems like a genuinely decent human being. That donation to the children's hospital and his outgoing I think really helped to give preds fans a relatable face and draw more fans in.
I can honestly say I never really developed a solid opinion of him either way. He seemed very effective on the ice. I don't know how he was in the locker room.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 I guess it depends who you talk to about him. Overall as a person he seems decent enough for when it counts.
And is slew foots
Let’s simply put it this way a type of NFL NBA caracther in a hockey world and specially whit the montreal Canadiens plus he loves hip hop so all that to say ,i don’t think he whas a bad person at all just very confident in his ability and not scared to show it ,but i respect him for always staying who he is even if some hated it and I’m sure he still could have played in the league he probobly just didn’t want to go on some type of tryout contract or whatever he’s a Norris trophy winner !!
Can't say his career is worth a HOF place considering how many players with more years in NHL and more merits have not yet been selected.
Still wish him a great retirement.
I agree
It's hard to put him ahead of guys like Letang,Weber, Doughty, Petrangelo, Karlson,Keith,Josi,Hedman,
I put him with Ekman Larsen, Seabrook,Rafalski, Byflugien,Rielly,Carlson,Burns,Hamilton, Giordano.
From his generation not talking Makar,Hughes,Fox,McAvoy new guys
Definitely a Hall of Very Good player
@@atpyro7920 Agree!
It sucks that PK’s prime ended so quickly. Dude was one of the most energetic players of the 2010’s, and his fantastic offense really complimented the physical presence he brought on the ice. The one hit he laid on Brad Marchand back in the day is one of my favorite clean hits of all time.
That being said, the part that relieves the pain of his short career is his incredible personality. Dude could be either a TV analyst, or a stand up comedian, and he would excel in either field. Was really hoping he would join TNT once he retired so that he can really let his amazing personality loose for a national audience.
Hell of a career and one of my all time favorite players!
anytime he's on as a guest announcer he has so much damned fun. his don cherry impressions are great too.
If I remember correctly it's been just cumulative little back and core injuries since his Montreal days that have put him in so much pain the past couple years it just wasn't worth it for him anymore.
Thankz again man!
My best memory of PK is when he DESTROYS Marchand with that insane open ice hit.
One of the heaviest hits I’ve ever seen. As much of a pest as he was seeing Marchand pop up and struggle back to the bench as fast as he did earned him a certain level of respect. 90% of the league is down for the count on a hit like that.
Only time this sabres fan was proud of a hab.
@@thatbzguy916 well personally Marchand just CANNOT earn my respect anymore as long as he plays....same goes for Milan Lucic and Oveshkin
I watch that video when I'm feeling down. Seeing the rat get blasted turns this frown upside down.
How bout Ovi destroying Subban with an insane open ice flip
This man was a bright light during a dark time for us Habs fans. F the haters.
Subban was my favourite hab of the 2010s after Price. Weber brought leadership and fit the model that Bergevin wanted better. But there was some excitement in the team that died the day he was traded.
You have to understand that, in Montreal, PK Subban was the first all-star skilled skater who everyone liked in a long time.
His skating was so spectacular, his passion for winning was palpable and people liked that about him. Numbers, cap hit, thoses were not important. what was important was that he was fun to watch and cheer for, like McDavid for the Oilers. Most people in Montreal remember him for his skating, his highlight check on Marchand, his out-of-the-penalty box goal against Boston and his tears when he came back as a predator. The controversy with Therrien who ran him out of MTL for Weber (and his ban on the triple low-five with pk and price) was shocking to most habs fans : they wanted PK to be a one-franchise player because he deserved it.
I remember my grandma said to me in her mid-90's : "he's my favorite player, he's fun to watch." most people who saw the dynasties knew talent when they saw it on the ice. PK Subban will be a beloved habs for eternity.
I absolutely love the energy PK brought... I can not stand the hate (some of it clearly race based) that he got. He was a great player, a VERY energetic teammate who got the team charged up. And he had some off ice style. GOnna miss him
💯💯💯
Nothing but love and respect for this man. Gave us a lot of great memories. Montréal loves you!
The guy had an amazing slapshot from the blue line. As a Bruins fan you hated how good offensively he was in the early 2010s. The problem began when more and more through his career, he seem to enjoy and care being on camera than on the ice. His game wasn't the same. It's sad because I think we did not see the full extent of what he had to offer if his head was more focus on hockey.
I would say the problem would be lingering back issues. But sure having a personality was the problem.
Remember when he would jump up and down and bang his stick on the ice when he wanted a pass? That was annoying.
@@Peppy871 nobody is suggesting not to have a personality. It’s the implications of his personality that caused a quicker regression in his career
@@BrendanZinck I don't think it was his personality. When he got traded from MTL a piece of him died that day he didn't want to be traded. He goes to Nashville and recaptures some of the glory with their finals run but after the preds then traded him I think he kind of gave up once he was on NJ as they had no cup aspirations at that time.
Met him once, awesome human being. Always loved him as person and player
I think his back did him in in the end. I hope he becomes active with the Habs alumni. Bergevin and Therrien didn't like him but the fans in Montreal loved him.
In each of his stops he gave back to the community and set a good example for all players
PK, in the playoffs, against Boston in 2014, he was phenomenal!
He did so much for charity in Montreal
You know, a career video of Andrei Markov would be fun. He helped several defensemen get good contracts (Souray, Streit, Komisarek, Subban); helped two goalies win Hart & Vezina (Theodore, Price); and his absence was felt in both playoffs the Habs lost to Boston (2009/2011).
A PK Subban fan and great vid! Plenty of moments and controversy with him. But also a lot of great ones too on and off the ice.
I remember him breaking in with Montreal early on.
Watching him play you could tell he was gonna be a damn good player. I remember the Penguins play by play guy Mike Lange kept commenting on his skill set.
His career went so quick it seems.
Whatever he does next, he'll be successful at. He's a talented, likeable guy, and I'm sure we'll see his face on TV and such for a long time to come!
Short career, considering the impact he had. But looking at 2011 through 2018, that is a hell of a prime. Exciting and fun to watch. Underrated defensively in his prime, particularly his first two seasons in Nashville.
I think if the Preds had won the cup on 2017, or even if he just played 1000 games, it would be hard to keep him out of the hall. I think he's borderline as is.
I was shocked how much his play dropped off in the past few years he was an offensive juggernaut in his peak years.
I'm really curious if his 18-19 injury just really took something out of him, the time off, people inviting him to do broadcast stuff, etc.
i think he plays better when he is the centre of attention montreal and nashville during that time was popular as shit when he was there while NJ is not the same as they were in the past
@@mr.ilikespam6081 Yep. Injuries, age, and playing on a bad (no offense Devils fans) New Jersey teams.
Awsome work Shannon. Enjoyed pk the personality and the offensive weapon he was. Outside of sandis in his early sharks avs yrs, pk was the next creatove d man i enjoyed watching. Ty again thg!!
Met him in south beach once. Really nice guy.
I'm a Boston fan but I have to admit I loved Subban. He was so fun to watch, so skilled and what a slap shot!
PK subban was on my favorite players even before became a devil.. Even though he wasnt in his prime while in NJ and many fans wanted him gone( justified).. he was still one of my fav players
Don’t forget that Subban gave $10M to the Childrens Hospital in Mtl! We still have a giant photo of him on the Hospital wall that we see from the highway. As a Habs fan, never really liked Subbans defense.. but he was a real spark plug and the team missed it
If he had 2-3 more seasons of elite production with the Norris win I think he'd be a hall of famer
Lol. I think you add two to three years of elite production to most players careers will get you in the hall of fame, lol
@@MrOctober44 this is an annoying ass comment, whack of you to downplay another man’s success. Where’s your HOF run? Exactly
NO. Not even close. Not a player I would have wanted on my team.
The fact that Subban recieved the Norris while under scrutiny of "Yeah but his defense isn't good" and John Carlson has yet to win it is ludicrous to me. Absolutely ludicrous
I’m sure He wouldn’t of won it that year if it was a full season
Well look at the defensemen of that year. Subban had the most points with a solid +/- and CF%. His defense wasn't great, but that year he outperformed every other defensemen. Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Enemy team can't score if they are always playing defense.
However Norris trophy is strange in the fact Josi won it over Carlson, when Carlson should've won and Josi lost to Makar when Josi should've won. Josi literally carried the Predators last year and got more points than Makar while being just as defensively responsible. Makar just has more hype because hes younger and on a cup contending team. It's strange cuz usually Norris trophy favors older players.
It cracks me up how upset people get over these trophies.
@@TheLarknessMonster i really agree with you on the Josi/Carlson Josi/makar thing there. I found it funny when Josi was picked over Carlson that the discussion was "yeah well it's the best DEFENSEMAN trophy and Josi had fewer points but he was better in his end" when every other year it goes to the defenseman with the kost points in the season. Wild
I think there should be two trophies. One for offensive defensemen and another for defensive defensemen. Carlson's defense is generally trash. Game 5 against Florida last postseason, he's principally responsible for three of the five goals we allowed. No situational awareness whatsoever. Offensive powerhouse though, and if there was a trophy specifically for that he'd have three of them.
as always, well done ... posted the comment to boost engagement
Thank you Shannon! Was looking forward to this one.
Keep up the good work!
I will miss him dearly, he was my favourite player when I started watching
The charity donation in Montreal makes him standout for me.
Wish him a fantastic retirement. Extremely generous man off the ice. But anybody saying he deserves a spot in the Hall needs to do some research
It’s a real shame PK didn’t end up someplace else, he could still be a 3rd pairing RD. Everyone on the Devils loved him.
no we tolerated him, he sucked
....and I bet they didn't offer him a contract...
Locker room cancer, they would of dumped him after the first year if his contract wasn't impossible to pawn off.
I was hoping P.K would've finished his career in Toronto, but his skating had dropped off too much. Enjoyed watching him play and I hope we will get to see him on some broadcasts with his charismatic personality!
For me it was the pledge of $10M to the Montreal Children’s hospital. There is an entire wing named after him. He even learned some basic French in order to converse with the sick kids, most of them terminal, and their families. After he was traded to Nashville, he continued to visit the hospital whenever he was in town and even brought some of his Preds teammates to meet sick kids.
I figured he was going to try a season on the Leafs bottom pairing, but I guess not. Best of luck to him.
Great person and has done well with his charities.
Sure he had a cannon for a shot from the point, that's about it. Massive defense liability hurt him and his team. Team Canada didn't even want him until they caved and got him as the 7th defenseman and PP Unit.
Wow that Weber deal the Preds wanted to get rid of in 2016 still has four years left on it. Will the cap hit return to the Preds if he retires now or will the league really let him stay in LTIR for the next four years even though he's retired for all intents and purposes?
It goes back to Nashville if he retires but I can't see the league doing that to them, especially since they just got a new owner. He'll stay on LTIR like they let hossa do.
Pernell Karl
THG you are on point with the Hockey happenings you should have a net work show.
The funny thing is that when Weber and Subban were traded I remember saying Weber was better but Subban was gonna be around longer. Though Subban has played a game more recently, he has officially retired before Weber. Montreal won the trade (especially when they had Weber longer than Nashville had Subban, and went on a cup run with him). Edmonton also benefited from the trade as in it kept our mind off of Hall-Larsson for a day.
Yhea but Subban went to the finals the year after the trade with same cote that Webber played with. Montreal finals run the team was completely different and Carey Price play was a big factor in that run.
By all metrics, it seems he was a major locker room cancer, especially in Montreal, but he definitely was one of the top 5 d-men for 4-5 years.
Very Well Done!
Most memorable for me is PK getting his face smooshed into the ice by Crosby
For me, the 360 giveaway. Sums up Subban's personality and career to perfection.
2 random memories of Subban. 2010 playoffs. PK trying to gain the offensive zone against Philly, reminiscent of Bobby Orr, but a certain Chris Pronger was at the blue line waiting for him. Pk was simply stripped off the puck though, no harms there. lol It was not the AHL anymore.
I think the first stretch Markov has his knee issues, there was Hamrlik and PK on the first PP unit. There goes Subban, putting his hands in the air and pointing at Hamrlik that he was gonna switch side so to be on his better side for a one-timer. Roman Hamrlik had not choice to go on the other side as PK was gesturing and coming over.
While I was not sad to see him go when he was moved, I have good memories of the character he was. Price and PK kinda handshake after games, it was cool (I hear then that Therrien told them to stop doing that though).
As an Oiler fan I am greatly indebted to Marc Bergevin for his asking price of PK Subban for a trade with Oilers in 2016. Nurse, Drai and one more asset. Glad that he didn't come back with a lower price. Nothing against PK, he was a great player but that asking price was too much, and Chia could have easily destroyed the future of Oilers
Pk Subban whas a NFL NBA character in a hockey world where ppl are still a little to stuck and doesn’t have no personality so him not being scared to show his ability and skills his attitude might have rub some the wrong way ,his attitude in the NBA is baby compere to most and at the end his top years he showed his skills Norris winner some very great season and im sure he could still play in the league just didn’t want to go on some type of tryout contract so good luck to him he’s officially joining ESPN I’m sure he will help to promote hockey and help the growth of the sports in the US and whit minorities!!
PK proved that you didnt have to know how to play defense to win a norris. Even if it was a shortened season.
Wish him all the best. I think hell be a good colour commentator.
I will always remember when Subban got traded for Weber, we habs fan were absolutely shocked
Counting stats are a little weak for a HOF, but with the Norris trophy and two other seasons being a finalist along with his popularity and outgoing personality, it’s hard to not get legit consideration
He will ....because the NHL wants desperately to be "inclusive".
The Norris doesn't mean much given that 6 months later he couldn't even earn a starting job for Team Canada.
I like PK, but his career just wasn't good enough. Plenty of players have 3 or 4 years of being an all star that aren't in the hall
@@MrOctober44 That’s about my opinions on the matter
Loved his Marchand hit. He'll get in the Hall as a media guy...
His career was not a bust but really should still be playing. He did not take care of himself in the off season partying way too much with tiger woods ex..
As a Montreal fan, I do not see the hype around Subban. He didn’t really win anything that it noteworthy, and when he asked for that 9 mil contract all i can think in my head was ‘he is not worth that much, he is trying to leech of the Canadiens now, we need to get rid of him as fast as possible.’
This should read: The Declined career of PK.
It's interesting to compare how the playing careers of PK and Weber ended. PK declined 4 seasons into an 8 year contract, was traded for 3 assets that did not pan out for Nashville. I think everyone is surprised that his playing career is done at 33, but I think his back issues are more troubling than he lets on.
Weber battled through injuries and led his team to a very unlikely Cup final. Ultimately with 4 years remaining on his contract and unable to play anymore, he was a tradable asset and the Habs received a Good Winger for their roster who they can deal at the Trade deadline for a yet to be determined, but likely solid value. With this hindsight, I think it's clear that Bergevin made the right move...although I will always wonder what pushed them at that time to make this move.
I loved watching PK play for the Habs and I look forward to his career in broadcasting where I'm certain he can excel.
His NTC was going to kick in on July 1 as I recall. That's why he was traded when he was.
@@mostlyboring That's why he was traded before July 1st, but not why he was traded after 1 season of an 8 season contract. Why did they think they had to move on from him? Was it the personality conflict with Michel Therrien, one of the very worst coaches in NHL history? Was there Locker room issues as is often alluded to? Or did they have concerns over his ability to deliver over the full term of the contract? Either way, when you examine the trade as I did, the Habs made the right move and are better off today because of it.
My favourite memory of PK is in his rookie year talking shit to Sid thne he backed up when his teammate said to stop
One of thoughs guys who would be a hall famer if he had a cup mainly cause of Nashville won in 2017 he would have won a conn smyth
It was those god awful alternate jerseys that compelled him to retire!
If I remember correctly, he had some really bad back issues during his days with the Predators which killed his offensive skills.
Great word," outspoken." My definition, trouble in the room. Ask Pacioretty.
It's all about race
@@MrOctober44 that's the card.
2017 PK met Vonn...his numbers fell off at the same time.
Off ice he donated 10 million dollars to a Montreal hospital
nope. That was always a lie. He pledged to RAISE 10 million dollars for a hospital, and to my knowledge there is no record of just how much he even did of that. The fact is, he was, and is a narcissist and a loudmouth in the locker room hated by most of his teammates for his boorish me first behavior on and off the ice
Favorite Subban moment?
Probably when he ran his mouth lying, saying Crosby told him his breath stank (huh?) and then Crosby goes out and just abuses him next game🎉
Chance he makes HoF is like 15% at best, which sucks because I love this guy. He's done stellar work with every community he's touched. Good dude, good heart, likely to do TV or radio.
When he was healthy he was an incredible player.
'When he was healthy?" Wow. Look at the board. 5 100% games played seasons, most of the lower numbers reflect lockouts and covid. Barely missed ANY time at all. Dumb comment.
Can you do a video of trade deadline possibilities/trades in general....also maybe explain throughout the year the trade market value.....this past 2 years has had very peculiar trades(vgk not included eventhoufh they fall in this catagory).....just some trades are huge headscratchers and feels as though it's not entirely due to cap issues and all.....how has the market been valued throughout history and why we see some of the questionable trades.....a hockey trade like Hall for Larson I could understand....if u could clarify the trade market that would be cool
38 minutes away Toronto vs Ottawa pre season let’s go Leafs!!!
One thing you take for granted in these vids is assuming we know their position and play style.
Crazy how fast his play went to shit.
I have a Habs jersey, they never should have traded him.
Can you do a 1989 Re-draft. That would be a fun one!
I felt bad for him in Jersey, as they didn't have anyone on their blueline that paired well with him and allowed him to play his game.
@@njdevils9236 Subban had a better +/- than most of the other d-men on the Devils this past season. His offensive numbers suffered in Jersey because he was on a bad team.
I was one of those Devils fans who thought the Devils won that summer.. Boy was I wrong..
Most stupid trade the Habs ever did besides the Leclair and Desjardins for Recchi idiocy. With Bergevin at the helm, if you had talent, he disliked you. Therrien was even worse. Glad they are both gone.
for those saying he was bad in nashville....eat up your words!
I hope he does well in media, he's a natural. His charity work was just tremendous. And for anybody who says quiet charity is better than loud charity, nothing shames other people better than loud charity. My favorite example is not hockey, but sports related. Gates and Buffet donate piles and piles of money to their foundation. Somebody asks T Boone Pickens after he spent $1B on a football stadium what he thought, and he said well it makes me look like a jerk (this is not the word he used). So he donated a pile to the foundation as well. Sometimes people need a reminder that good things can happen and be helpful, and if it made a bunch of kids days with him showing up in a carriage or something, I'll take it.
I was not a fan of his on the ice as my teams tended to get beat up by him and his teams. But off the ice, all star.
To sum up his career look at that clip of him out of the box scoring goal running to rub it in the face of a player while gally trying to pull him and then he gets a penalty. something stupid like that.
So now that both their careers are over, who won the Subban Weber trade
I’ll like to see a Theo fleury one in the future!
PK Slewban
So how about a career video of PJ Axelsson?
PK
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Can I interview you one day for my nhl gaming channel?
I feel like people get on the bandwagon of a player making an intentional dirty play trying to injure the other player way too easily.
The only defenseman worth 9 mil is John Carlson
One of the most annoying things when discissing PK online: when you have legit critisms of him, such as his inability to play defense, his giveaways, his me-first attitude or his slewfooting, so many people will just say you are a "hater" or "racist". It's like some used that to keep him immune from critism.
I always found it funny when people say that, especially considering Iginla was my favourite player.
bad luck for his ego that he chose to retire on the same day as an actual hall of famer, Chara.
He's eventually going to the HHOF because he is black and had decent numbers.
Please do his best partner, Andrei Markov
I cant believe this guy was awarded the Norris . and I don't understand why MTL. fans like him . every time for MTL. he constantly pinching in on offence .leaving the D zone unprotected . you could see the confusion on the ice in the other forwards .like trying to run a set play ,and he would just take over skating around with the puck ,like he forgot his medication . the look on the other players face with that W T F look on there face , Priceless ! of course very upset our D- man Jones should have won the Norris that Year At CBJ .dirty player that runs his mouth , and if anyone says anything about him he cry's like a baby . there really needs to an award given every year called the Donkey in Honer of P K .
Remember the time when Ovechkin hip checked him flip him on his head
I think him getting booted out of Montreal hurt him..
He got booed around the league because he was black.
@@rt-rd5of at least in Boston, I don't know about the whole league though
i hope not
He retired because maybe 2 teams offered league minimum.
This is why the salary cap is ruining the game. It might make more parity but overall the league is not as good as it could be. He is an NHL level Dman maybe only a 5 or 6 guy, but with the cap you cannot pay your 5 or 6 that much and I am sure PK doesn't want to play for 1 mil or less, a journeyman player like him deserves at a 4 mil a year deal at least. But NHL teams will get not as skilled guys that will play for lower a salary. So overall league skill goes down.
Basically do you want a 20 goal scorer that is making 4 mil or a rookie making minimum that may only get you 5 to 10 goals. Most teams go with the rookie because they can't afford 20 goal scorers on their bottom 6, and because the 20 goal scorer is in his 30's now, doesn't want to play for same or barely more than the rookie is making, nor should he have to. So overall skill in the league is less all because of money.
I kind of wish you got into his World Junior golds, and also some of the highlights (lowlights?) of the racism he had to battle through.