ISDT Q6 Plus & ISDT T8 Battery Charger Review | BEST LIPO CHARGER FOR THE MONEY
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The Q6 and T8 are two new LiPo battery chargers from ISDT. Q6 packs 300 watts into an unbelievably tiny package. T8 delivers 1000 watts for when you need MOAR POWAH. Both of them are incredibly feature-rich and value-priced.
But there's a catch.
The 300 watt and 1000 watt rating of the chargers is based on charging at the maximum possible voltage (6S for the Q6, 8S for the T8). This inflates the specification a bit if you're actually charging 4S or lower, as most of us are. So if you're looking for the best LiPo charger, you should probably look at the amp rating (14 amps for the Q6 and 30 amps for the T8) not the watt rating.
Even taking this into account, I think these are some of the best value for the money you can buy today.
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ISDT T8
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ISDT SC-620
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Joshua - I just started using ISDT and I'm sold. Thanks for covering it and explaining a thing or two about chargers that I didn't know. Yes, I always learn something!
Nice THANKS For all your videos on Beta & Cleanflight I am learning something every time I watch .
Thanks Joshua I appreciate your take and presentation. Always so well done.
Happy Halloween! I love my ISDT Q6. I have been saving up for a Icharger, but the new isdt is so tempting. Thanks for the video.
Very nice video!Thanks for your support to ISDT
Finally picked up one of these:) thanks for the great info
I love my Q6 Plus. So much, I ended up getting 3 of them and I just charge them up individually. No more parallel charging. Just pop 'em in and go. I'll add a few more to m collection. I put a couple in my pack for friends to use as well when we're out in the field.
I have a modded laptop charger that I use for them at home, no issues. You can even find rebranded laptop chargers (new) for like ten bucks or so (talk about recycling New Old Stock!?).
I love the ISDT chargers.
Thanks for all your uploads Joshua, you are the yoda of the drone world lol, could you do a video on your power supply for the isdt charger??
Here's the parts list: www.fpvknowitall.com/best-12v-power-supply-parts-list
Here's a video showing it off: ua-cam.com/video/KujxQLQeabY/v-deo.html
Thank you !
Get 30/32V power supply. Your chargers will heat up less, last longer and you'll be able to use their full power.
Great video like always :)
The beginning of this video was a roller-coaster ride of battery charger emotions. I loved it.
I was thinking of getting the T8 for my home charger so I started researching every battery charger under $100 bucks I could find to see if there was anything better. What I ended up purchasing was the Revolectrix GT 500 ($80 from the Revo USA site) and I love it. It does 500W 20A up to 8S,internal discharge up to 8A or regenerative discharge up to 20A. Sure the T8 is more powerful but 500W is enough for my mini quad lipos. It has a jog wheel and the amount of settings you can play with is crazy! It's also firmware up-gradable with just a regular usb mini cable. After updating the FW it added even more settings. One of my favorites is parallel mode. You just input the mah of one battery times how many you are charging. I had been using cheaper chargers and never realized how much better a higher quality charger could be.
I have the T8 and love it. JB its 35A max input current 30A max out
Awesome review. Thankx
yet another down to earth review!!
I have been using a Thunder AC6 charger for some time now and have wanted to upgrade to a better one. The IChargers look great with some great features, but I have not wanted to spend that amount of money on a single charger. These seem to be a great balance in price and features and I will be picking one up on your recommendation good Sir. Thank you as always for your help and honest reviews, Please keep up the good work.
Awesome review. Thanks.
Thanks for pointing out the balance port thing! I have blown up some batteries because of those stupid things on other chargers
I might need to pick this 1 up thanks!!
thank you very much, JB. please stay safe and healthy. God bless.
Thx for video. I hope to see power supplies video one day.
I use an 150W iSDT SC-608 with a cheap 24V power supply and it has been a fantastic first charger.
I have a 12V lead in the back of the truck for field charging. I use it as a checker too.
Bought a Q6 to charge LiHv tiny whoop batteries when they 1st came out, which was last Dec or so if I recall. At the the time there were some growing pains reported on RCG, but mine has been flawless. At least a thousand cycles on it (it does keep track but I don't pay attention) and it's still terrific. I had 2 brand new 4 buttons (Thunder AC680) and they've been almost totally forgotten. (still good chargers, but the Q6 just works so nice).
I routinely charge 6 Graphene 4S1300 and have never needed more even for my Big 6S8000 airplane packs. 300w is enough, but you'll want a 24v supply to get it without hitting the current limit. I built my Q6 into a case with a 24v 280w SMPS and it's a good combo. The Q6 doesn't get by well charging from a car battery, it runs afoul of the low voltage shutdown. I built a 6S10p 18650 pack from surplus cells to use for field power, and it's a great combo.
Thanks for another great review.
I love my Q6, been using it for parallel charging and it gets the job done. I really want the T8. ProgressiveRC has all the lastest chargers and a lot of options. They make great custom charge cases for the ISDT chargers too.
Nice! What kind of power suppy do you use to be able to parallel charge? thanks!
Thank you. You rock!!!!!!
I love the mic!!!!
Hey Josh great content! Noobie question for ya. What type of a charging cable/block do you get for these chargers? Is there a difference in them, and any reasonably priced ones you'd recommend? Thanks for all the great info!
I bought the small SC-608 recently as a companion to my awesome Q6 Plus I've been using for a while. I didn't realize it didn't have the Cell Voltage selection in the Storage function as it does in the Q6 and other ISDT chargers. Sometimes I don't always want to store a lipo at 3.80v either which the Q6 allows for. Still, they are great chargers all around in price, features, performance and portability. I really want to pick up a D2 if I see a good price on one.
Hi Joshua I always watch your videos with a big smile on my face. About this chargers: the only con i find is, you always need an external powersource for these. I mean you can't plug it in the wall.
I am completely newbie, feel pretty safe about the Q6. Thanks!
What do you recommend for starting out flying i been changing one at time with my old Lipo charger from my rc car from hpi racing
Thank you
Happy charging? I love the ISDTs. I've had a couple had issues, e.g. the backlight on the LCD failed, but Hobbyking had the replacement arranged within hours of me submitting warranty claim. Kudos to ISDT and Hobbyking.
There is also a T6 and T6 Lite on iSDT site. Banggood also has a Q6 Lite (200W 8A instead of 300W 14A) and in the description of that it mentions a Q6 Pro (Same as the Plus but with BattGO technology built in.)
Excellent video, very clear explanation! Thanks from a complete novice!
I got the Q6 with the four port parallel charging board and the isdt PSU. Its pretty nice I can charge 4 packs at once at 1 or 2 C.
Very interesting information and a great review. I will look into these because I'm after a new fild charger. But as for home chargeing i use THUNDER POWER TP820HVC 40A charge , in my opinion the best on the market, but they do have a high price point, but they have come down in price recently.
Great vid as always! Could you test the max input current of these, as you did for the sc620?
I assume that the Q6 will reach max output on 12v, but the T8 will not.
Joshua the input Voltage for the Q6 or SC620 needs to be higher than 12V for it to reach its 14A and 20A outputs when charging 4S Batteries. Using a 24V power supply overcomes this issue. On 12V you can only charge at approximately 12A on the Q6 and 17A on the SC620 when charging 4S batteries as the output voltage is higher than the input.
what power supply would you reccomend for the isdt t8? and this video a couple years old is there anything better that has come out since then? thanks=)
iSDT FTW!!!
$100???? No. NO. What's the catch? Come on. It's too perfect. Great video, as always :)
Considering i paid $229 for my 4 way prophet!! I was astounded by the price of these products....time to buy a travel charger...thanks as always Josh!!!
nice, ive been looking for a charger :)
Own an Icharger 406 and a Q6. The Icharger really is the best charger ever. Combined 75 amps of raw power but the price point is insane. The Q6 is a great fieldcharger. I power it up with a 6S 12000 mah lipo and it keeps me going on a day of flying. For discharge or storage it is a pain in the ass. Discharge max is 0.4 amp so it is taking for ever if it does not overheat before that. So ideal field charger. That T8 looks like an awesome value for money home charger.
Joshua, Can I power (input) with a 12VDC switching power supply?
Hi Joshua, maybe a bit off topic, but can you possibly do a video about pro's and cons of reversed motor direction on a copter ?
Hi Joshua can you make a vid on who you made the power supply
nice review. I still never found any bearings for my hype train motors.lol
Getting me one o dem fancy pants chargers you eccomend Mr Bardwell:) I must also tell you that your video on the Commanders was top notch. I am returning mine. As someone who has been spoiled by the 55 degree field of view you get on transformers I really didn’t like the 32 FOV and I couldn’t get the IPD where it felt any where near normal. Your observations were spot on. If I do go for goggles it will props have to be HD3’s
+PuppetMasterFPV commander FOV is about 24 degrees. Just don't want you being miscalibrated for the rest of your life. IMO 32 degree FOV is flyable.
Joshua Bardwell thanks for responding sir:) 24 degrees!!?? Sweet baby Jesus that’s less than half of what I get through the Transformer and I don’t really have any break up or multi pathing issues so at would be a downgrade IMO not the upgrade I am looking for. What was the biggest FOV goggles FatShark has made? Would that be the HD2’s that they don’t make any more? Appreciate the help.
My ISDT Q6 plus lasted about 20 charges before deciding to just take forever to do the final balance. This has occurred with multiple charging boards and harnesses, when it occurs I do the charge on my 4 year old icharger 208B and its done within a minute.
I specifically bought the Q6 plus for the high balance current numbers, in reality it doesnt seem to matter that much.
I have done side by side charging tests between the Q6 plus and icharger 208B (4 identical 1300mah 4s in parallel on each charger charging at 14amps). When the Q6 plus was doing the correct final balance, it might end up taking about 2-3 minutes less.
I really want to like the ISDT line but will be replacing the Q6 plus on my bench with an icharger 306B and will use the Q6 plus for fast field charging.
When you compare the new T8 charger with the icharger 306B its less, has the same 1000W charge capability but has no real discharge capability(The 306b does 80W). You can add the 80W ISDT Smart Discharger for $40 but now your about the same price.
Also, while the ISDT GUI certainly looks nicer, I see no real advantage over the old 4 button interface. Takes me just as long either way.
Oh Yeah! Chargers! Finally!
IM A COMPLETE NEWBY HERE!!! do i need a big battery to charge another battery? i cant plug this to my wall outlet? IM VERY CUNFUSED PLEASE HEEEELPP!
Hi,
I purchased an ISDT Q6 Pro charger. When i charge lets say 2200mah 3s battery from storage voltage. It only charge battery 1200mah and 4.2v each cell. If i charge same battery on IMAX B6 from storage voltage it fully charge to its capacity of 2200mah and 4.2v each cell.
I know this has nothing to do with this vid but are you going to be reviewing the true D module for attitude v4s at any point would be nice to see your review before I commit to the upgrade 👍🏼
got the Q6 Pro since a few days, and i wished i bought it earlier. I had an ToolkitRC M6 before, but that didnt charge my LIPO good, and was giving error, lcd display going crazy when the device get hot.
Joshua bardwell you should take a look at the Revolectrix gt series of chargers. They’re the company who makes the powerlab chargers and has competed toe to toe with icharger and have had their gt chargers which are every bit as good as the powerlab minus having the pc interface and logging capabilities and they’re half off now, I picked up the gt1000duo (2000watt) charger for 125$ recently and its amazing. The single 1000watt version is 75$. The only category the Isdt chargers beat the gt in is portability, but at the price I’d take and recommend the gt over anything on the market right now, best feature set/reputable company and great customer service
+sean metzger that's a good charger at that price!
kind of an unrelated topic but getting used to Acro and air mode but is there any way to increase sensitivity around Center stick when in Horizon mode and still let go of stick to return to Center thanks
First, never let go of the stick. Re-center the stick but don't release it!
Have you tried adding Expo in the PIDs tab?
Joshua, I have watched many of your videos on chargers... lots of good information. What I would like to ask is that you make a video on ACCURACY of chargers... I have two, an Imax B6 (Original) and a HTRC T240...they both work but when using a Voltmeter (I also have 2 and they are accurate) the readings on the chargers are never the same as shown on the Multimeters.
Thanks.
I made that video :-)
ua-cam.com/video/L5gAohxwOxU/v-deo.html
Are these chargers just for flight batteries or will they work well with rc car and truck batteries with high mah like 7000 and 8000 3s and 4s? Thanks.
I have the iSDT Q6 Pro charger, I have used the duel port HiTec for years. I prefer the Q6. I like both chargers. The Q6 is so small and light so I find myself using this charger more. Plus I like the features of the Q6 better and feed back it gives me while charging. The Q6 was like $50 bucks? My HiTec was around $180-$200. I’d recommend the Q6 for sure. I use an old computer power supply to power the Q6, usually charge around 3 amps off the laptop power supply. But being mobile I charge off my Truck at 5.2 Amps. Don’t charge 5 Amps off your cigarette lighter power supply, you have to run designated wires from the battery through the firewall of your vehicle because the cigarette lighter power supply will melt in time charging at 5 amps.
Do I need battery balancing on the battery pack or can I join the wires to my own cells that are not in a pack and does it charge LiFePo4?, because it does not say, it only states LiPo or LiFe, bit strange.
I have questions and would like to learn about inputs to these DC chargers. Now I know you say you can charge this many batteries that this mini amps takes this long but what about the inputs? Like a server wreck input or a CB radio DC supply or the race day quad power supplies how does that affect how batteries get charged?
Can i charge and test the resistance of 12v or 24v ups batteries ?
Can you please make a video on power supplies? What to use, what’s best, and what you need to reach each chargers full potential?
+brennen nisporic start here.
ua-cam.com/video/dQTrfZa3MZU/v-deo.html
This is the specific video you want.
ua-cam.com/video/I9o_ITaWn0o/v-deo.html
SMC racing sells a 1025watt power supply for like 70$ All soldered with 2 sets of bananna's and a fake carbon fiber wrap. www.smc-racing.net
I love my ISDT D2 Charger
I know I am late to the party, but how do you power it with 300 or 1000w? Most laptop chargers are 50-90w.
I have the isdt SC-608. It is really nice. It can run off of a 20 dollar 10A 12v PSU.
Do you have a guide or suggestion into how to make or what type of ac - dc adapter to purchase for the Q6 Plus?
www.fpvknowitall.com/best-12v-power-supply-parts-list/
I have the isdt q6 and it has been great, I just got the d2 and it was DOA! waiting for the second one to come in.
Hopefully your retailer took care of you.
Sergio @ piroflip took care of it. Just wanted to chime in that there have been a couple of issues with the chargers. Still love the idst stuff.
I wish they build smart chargers for DIY powerwall.
Joshua, I have always JUST balanced charged my lipo's. When and How often can I Fast Charge Lipo's? and Can I Fast charge parallel?
Always balance charge. Every time. Especially if you are parallel charging.
I will get one I have a reactor now 150 watt
I'm seriously considering their 1000W model as a mobile alternative to my Powerlab 8. 12S 5000 helicopters (2x 6S in series for flight, in parallel for charging) is what I'll be using it for primarily. I think I'm over my FPV phase. I like the prices, but the thrill just isn't the same.
The Q6 looks good for anything you would want to do with quads.
I could see that the Q8 may need a connector upgrade for doing high end RC (like 700+ size helis or big planes - I use an iCharger and a 1000+ W power supply for my 700 size heli). The 60A max rating for the XT60 connector (for both input and output) could be a limitation in high end applications (This is why we use EC5's for 400+ size heli's instead of XT60's - big low kv motors, lots of torque, lots of current).
The T8 has a 35 amp max input limit so I don't think it can exceed the rating of an XT60.
What companies t-shirt is that?
Joshua, I got the ISDT FD-100 discharger about a month ago and really love it. Not sure it you have got hold of it but if you do, please investigate the feature where the Q6 can be connected to the FD-100 to change its settings. At least ISDT's minimalistic documentation hints to such a possibility.
Does the FD-100 have something that looks like a headphone jack? If so, try connecting that with the "headphone jack" (obviously not a headphone jack but it uses the same connector) of the Q6 using a standard audio cable. (I only have the Q6+, so I'm kinda speculating here ;D)
Yes, the connector is over the fan outlet. Look here : www.isdt.co/fd-100.html
any new chargers? any with 12 or 16s?
Can you charge a lipo battery with a small tamiya connection with the charger by using the lipo's balance port only? Or will you have to convert the small tamiya to deans and use the adapter?
You cannot charge with the balance plug only on these chargers.
Hello Joshua, I’m looking at getting the mini charger as my first balance charger and like you I have a old dell laptop power supply. It’s a 19.5v output. Would that work as a power supply for the charger? Can I just replace the plug like you did and you it?
Depends what the amperage is. If you want to max out the plus or pro, it must be 15.5 amps at least. Hope this helps
I had this charger for about 8 months. It's definitely got some quirks and reliability issues. For example, I've had to manually calibrate the ports. The individual port readings drifted so far that they no longer added up to the main port's reading. This causes the Q6 to throw an error in the middle of charge.
The other issue is it would spend too much time trying to hit balanced charge. A firmware update seemed to have helped, but recently it's started to really fail to balance charge port #4 completely. It started off as a 5mV offset from other ports and has grown to almost 50~100mV. The self check fails with error code 407-10.
Unfortunately when I contacted ISDT for warranty, they needed me to ship the unit to Shenzhen, China (at my cost). And I'd have to pay shipping for the repaired unit. So to repair a $50 device under warranty, I have to dish out almost $30-40 in shipping.
So at the very least, I recommend buying this from a US distributor like getfpv or Aloft. They have potentially very good service. But I didn't get it from these companies so I'm out of luck.
But to be honest, given the risk of damaging expensive racing lipos (a decent 1500mAh Lipo is like $30), what's the true cost of a defect? ISDT doesn't compensate you if their defective product damages your batteries.
John Xia Yeah I want to buy a T8 but I heard to many bad things. I think I’ll stick with the 20amp icharger
If a person has an ISDT Q6 charger, and an ISDT Safe Parallel Charging board, how does one send the output from the ISDT Q6 charger output (MALE XT60), into the INPUT of the ISDT Safe Parallel Charging board 'input' (MALE XT60) ?
Neither the ISDT Q6, or the ISDT Safe Parallel Charging devices seem to come with cables to bridge between them, and on the sites i've looked at, nobody seems to sell a FEMALE to FEMALE XT60 charging 'bridge cable' set to go between the Q6 outputs and the Safe Parallel Charging device... what am i not understanding??
Well hell i just got the 620, i didnt know a new one was coming out
+Oneeye Fpv the 620 still fits in a great place.
I wish they made a dual charging version though. I've got the SkyRC D100 and that's really nice to be able to charge two different types of batteries at once
+Fincky just buy two!
Check out the ISDT D2
Sorry for the off topic Coment but what ear mic do you use?
This is the one I'm using now.
amzn.to/2zk329u
The double-ear design is much more secure than the single-ear design I used to use, but getting the mic to sit in the right position on my face was a hassle. I ended up inserting a small piece of Kyosho gel about 3 mm thick in between the head-wire and the mic wire to stiffen it up and make the mic sit in the right location. Once you get it you'll see what I mean.
My Q6 has a poor scroll wheel that just barely plays nice enough to start a charge. I still recommend the charger but just get one from a retailer that will help you with issues.
NoLongo I had the same issue with one of my Q6 chargers. Horrible wheel that clicked every time i scrolled.
Will the fast balance on the ISDT chargers work with my existing parallel balance boards? Or will the faster balance (higher balance current) trip the polyfuses on my older parallel boards? ie do you have to use the ISDT1-8S SAFE PARALLEL board?
Fast balance doesn't run at higher current, I don't think. I think it just finishes sooner. Anyway, no, it shouldn't trip the polyfuses. Balancing current on most chargers is around 500 mA or less.
I have seen your battery charger fundamental video but it does not cover exjectly what you are using in this video. Can you please make a video for XT60 to DC soldering. I can't find any good video for this part in youtube.
hello .. I love your site but I would like to point a detail that you probably already heard of but still.... why do we get kick out of your site eatch time we click on a link? Would it be possible to open a new tab? Will be more user friendly!!!
thk
I just ordered this charger, I need to get a power supply for it. I was just going to get a laptop charger and put an xt60 connector on the end like you've done. What watt and volt rating should I look for on the laptop charger to get the most out of this charger? Thank you
For the q6 you want about 350 watts 19 volts.
I really respect your channel and I would like to hear your opinions about EV-PEAK CQ3 100W x 4 10A four channel RC Balance Lipo Battery Charger. No one good known FPV hobby person made any review. Is this product worth any attention, maybe no?
Thank you.
Hi 😁 I've got the Isdt t6 today. And I don't have a proper power supply, will you recommend one? Not too expensive
www.fpvknowitall.com/fpv-shopping-list-charging/#power-supplies
Your videos are great. I have an JLB RC car where i will be mainly charging 3s stock batteries and maybe 4s. I do have two questions:
1. How can you get a this T6 charger to be plugged in the wall as AC power source?
2. Can the ISDT parallel board charge 3s batteries or is it only for 6s ? (I've seen your review on that).
1. You need a DC power supply (www.fpvknowitall.com/fpv-shopping-list-charging/#power-supplies) or you need to look at something like the ISDT D2 which has a built in power supply.
2. Generally a parallel board can charge 2s through 6S but check the specs on each one. The ISDT boards have a single balance plug for all batteries which might be what is confusing you. It's a custom design that takes all sizes.
Joshua Bardwell Great, thanks for the link in question 1. I think i may get that AC adapter that has XT60 connecting end to go in the Charger.
Yes about question two, it did have me a little puzzled with the ISDT parallel board. So just to clarify, the ISDT board port can parallel balance charge from 1s Up To 6s and Not just 6s?
Do you have a video on how to set up the best damn power supply? The one from your site?
No, not really.
what power adapte do i need to use for the q6 plus, what kind of output?
7 to 32 volts, and 300 watts. XT60 plug same as on a battery.
Can we use parallel board (1500mah 4s * 6) as an input for the ISDT Q6 ? I'm charging a 6300 mah - 6S
Yes.
Do you ever have a problem with the wheel scrolling when you're trying to use it as a selector. I kind of wish there was one separate button for a selector.
I haven't, but I see how that could happen.
I’ve been using the Q6 for 6 months and it’s been superb. It can really do the amps it claims. However.. it sucks at discharging, it discharges very slowly and usually after 1 minute it shuts down and says “OMG IM OVERHEATING” and beeps like crazy till you deal with it. Apart from that though, I love it 🙂
Honestly, the best tool for discharging is an automotive or halogen light bulb. Or you can build a discharge load out of some 1 ohm 300W resistors.
Joshua Bardwell fair point 🙂 however, have you seen the ISDT-FD100? It’s interesting and solves this problem. 80 watt discharger with automatic cutoff. And the heatsink/fan it uses looks great
m.banggood.com/ISDT-FD-100-80W-6A-Smart-Control-Discharger-for-2S-8S-Lipo-Battery-p-1145999.html
YEP. I will be reviewing it soon :-)
Joshua Bardwell cool, I will be looking out for that review! I hate having to disgracefully discharge my batteries after sessions where I break everything. I hate it even more when my chargers don’t do it properly so having that problem solved would make the process less annoying.
I also just had a thought.. you might be able to use a balance board for discharging with that ISDT discharger. I can’t immediately think of a reason why that wouldn’t work. It would be great to be able to stick everything on discharge at once
It's not a feature or design problem, it's physics...
All that energy in your batteries have to become heat in the charger (and if you have a parallel board worth of typical flight batteries that's ballpark 40 Wh into that small charger, at 10W that's four hours... )
Good pin point
This vid was gold 😹😹
Hi Josh (and people)!!! Totally newbee here and I bought a ISDT q6 nano. Do you think it goes fine using a laptop charger (19v-3.42A) as power supply? I guess yes but it wont stand any parallel, am I right? Thanks for the recomms!!!
Stay under about 50 watts and you'll be ok.
can i use a normal pc atx power supply topower up the q6 ?
Yes, if you mod it to output 12 volts without being hooked up to a PC.
I got LRP pulsar touch for many many years..