Hobbymate D6 Duo | NEW BEST VALUE AC/DC LIPO CHARGER
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The Hobbymate D6 Duo is a new lipo charger with AC input (plugs into the wall) and DC input (plugs into a bigger battery or power supply). It's got two channels of 325 watts or 15 amps each. If you're looking for an AC-capable charger, I think it just might be the best choice for the money.
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I've seen several reviews on this charger, but your review was absolutely the best and most informative. Your the only one I saw that knows what the Ext Discharge actually is (really nice feature). Great job Josh. Impressed.
Hi Mr Joshua Bardwell,
thank you so much for making this video. I have definitely learnt more than something today. It's been 14 days now, that I'm hunting for my next lipo charger that I can use- and am getting so stressed about it. I've learnt so much from this video. So grateful that you take the chance to explain things so clearly and unbiasedly. Very blessed. God bless you man...
Blade X have you chosen a charger yet?
iCharger 406, etc allow charging or discharging to specific levels. Thanks for another good video. I appreciate that you cater to both new and experienced hobbyists.
Good video, you talked me into ordering one today. I checked your links first but ended up ordering from the rotor riot sight instead as the prices were substantially less.
Please make a "Care And Feeding of LiPo Batteries" video where you take noobs by the hand and explain safe charging, discharging, balance charging, long term storage, how long you should let a battery sit fully charged, etc etc. Explain HOW and also WHY. Many thanks!
Seconded Mr. A. This all looks like the Black Arts to me... seems as if there is a lot of experiential knowledge that noobs (me) don't have.
Check out his playlists. He has everything you’re looking for
I would die if that actually came out. That would be the most useful thing for me
@@rschmidtschmidt6810 He has many videos explaining just that
When I was first getting into the hobby, I didn't have any RC or battery charging knowledge. I hardly knew how to solder yet. Trying to build a power supply and understanding the why/how of it all went wayyy over my head. I would have gladly bought this when I was starting off for the fact that it can take AC power.
Looks a nice piece of kit, thanks for the review JB.
I really like how you compared them all. I've been running a 24v dual server power supply hooked up to an iCharger 306B for the last 5 years. It's been a flawless setup. I normally don't even charge at more than 12 amps simply because I tend to charge the day before I'm flying. However, I'm looking for something portable now. I was always against chargers with integrated power supplies, but this one does look very interesting. Not to mention, I've used it a few times as some of my friends have it. Yeah, I considered making a small power supply to feed a pair of Q6 chargers. But, even though the setup would not be as big as my current 306B setup, it would still not be as portable as this Hobbymate Charger. I think I'm old. All I have to check now is if there is anything newer now that might possibly be better, given this charger came out in August.
Bardwell i love you! Thank you for informing us so well!
As always, a great video. Thanks, Joshua!
Very clear explanation of charger in general. Every beginner should watch this video! Thank you for sharing.
my birth days coming up in a couple days I'm so glad you posted this vid of been hold of to buy a charger because I wanted a powerful charger with out a power supply
Great info, JB! So many fantastic chargers!
This charger looks impressive. Great review, thank you.
I like this charger, I bought one that you needed a degree in physics, math, and electrical engineering to use. Buying this one.
I watched the first 15 seconds and instantly clicked "subscribe"! :D
Thanks Josh! Great review!
Great video. very informative as always. i learn a lot each time.
The iCharger 308, 406, and 4010 allow balancing for storage at any user selectable voltage. They also can charge many batteries at once due to their massive 30 and 40 amp charge rates. But they are DC input power only. Pretty much the best lipo chargers in existence overall.
When traveling, i just use my pc powersupply. It's 19V 200W. Sometimes i have an extra 19V 135W pc powersuply. I have made a couple off converters to XT60. Perfect with my two ISDT Q6.
I have 2 SkyRC quatro, loving them so much
Thanks for the review. You mentioned in the review that the charger produces more power in the DC mode so it got my creative juices flowing. I have a dead battery backup for my computer but the 24V charging circuit and batteries still work even when the unit is turned off. I am going to use this as a 24V power supply for charging through the HOBBYMATE D6 Duo Pro Balance Charger. Don't worry, I know how to do this safely.
Great review man! I'm happy with my Q6 BUT if I was in the market I'd buy one.
I love your videos Brother. I guess I’m getting older but feel great only because I’m 42 and up until about 4 months ago I thought ToysRus Drones was about all there was..... for Father’s Day my wife bought me a Mavic Pro. I about shit my pants as to FPV and how amazing it was, I was so far behind. Now I’m filling my ‘Cart’ with Freestyle FPV. Your videos have helped me out tremendously and I want to THANK YOU for opening my LIFE and making it more fun. I’m going to get the EMAX HAWK 5 just to get started while I learn how to build my own.....
You know a lot of stuff about this hobby. I have a lot to learn and I watch about 4 hours of Quad videos a day. Thank goodness for UA-cam LOL.
Olympia WA
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100% agree. 45 here, started at Christmas (wife bought me a little toy drone!) and largely get to do this because of JB. Also in the PNW, but on the Canada side of the line.
Cheers, man!
Ha, exactly how I started, except I bought my own Mavic for my 60th birthday. Welcome to the journey down the marvelous rabbit hole that is RC flying!
I'm pushing 70 and still ripping
Update, ordered the TBS OBLIVION RTF with crossfire nano...
Quick tip for those using a DC input from a battery. Especially A T8. Watch your charger input voltage the charger will operate down to. I have an ISDT T8 I bought to use with a portable battery charge box. Luckily I built the box with the idea of housing two batteries to possibly run in series at 24+ volts rather than parallel at 12v.
I tested running the T8 charger off of 12v and quickly found that if the main AGM batteries sagged to under 12v the T8 will shut off. This happened quickly at trying to charge at 6amps. The T8 requires better than 12v input and when trying to charge a 16v battery at 6amps you will draw closer to 10amps off the 12V supply.
I rewired the 12v batteries into series and now I dont have a problem. Charging packs at 10amps means I draw like 6amps off the 24v supplym. WAY better option. I tend to run a parallel array of 8-12 batteries charging in series while in the field. Off of my 2 20ah AGM batteries I have done 22 1300mah 4s packs while out in the field with enough room to probably do a few more packs.
Fun part is the amp draw off a 24v system is much less than with a 12v system trying to charge the same set of 8 1300mah 4s batteries at 10amps. That was what Bardwell hinted about with higher input voltage being useful with this charger doing a DC input versus the AC/DC line in.
TLDR? If using a car battery, consider buying 2 for doing a 24v setup rather than a 12v setup.
I just purchased this off your recommendations on your site .. i can't lie ..the whole charging and battery process of fpv is by far the most confusing thing for me lol. But ive got a month probably before ill be charging batteries so hopefully I can learn more about this and actually understand it before I do . Thanks for the videos .
Thanks for sharing! Saves a lot time
Nice, thanks Joshua, I was looking for something like this
Been in this hobby since 2013. I have, after the year 2014 when I bought my first actual hobby grade balance charger. Have, after my toying around with charge rates, settled into a habit of charging my cells and packs at a normal of 1C. Sometimes even slower if in no special hurry. It puts the most amps back INTO the battery. Faster charging always also comes at the cost of not putting the full mAh used back into the cells.
Been using the Icharger X6 since before this video was made. It has outlived two power supplies so far. Finding quality hobby battery charging server style PSUs that don't break the bank (typically they are advertised for controlling motors or hobby CNC machines or LED displays) that aren't typically actually implemented as true computer PSUs. I have been looking at a couple of models which could fit my needs in regards to future proofing as well as reducing PSU death anxieties as near future purchases. Have recently jumped back into the fun side of the hobby after a two year rabbit hole of self education on analogue electronics, digital electronics, MPU programming and actual software coding, as well as antenna theory, which is what sent me down it all. After I put a proper antenna and coax jack onto my Taranis QX7+ TX. And decided to dive into AlienFlightTNG hardware... I am a helicopter guy at the core. Never did I think I would learn to stop giving a shit and love the Goggle. Don't bash airplanes either. Those things are a world of RC fun in their own right. And my only LHS is land and track ONLY so... I am kinda _that_ guy in the RC world.
Just purchased on your advise. Thank you.
Big LED power supplys are great for lipo charging. They have wide range of voltage and power. From 12 to 36 or even 48 volts and up to 2 kW at a reasonable price. Im using 24V x 360W for my ISDT for $14. It rocks.
Not sure if things have changed but the External Discharge function now works by connecting the battery you want to discharge to the rear EC60 port and a dummy load of about 1.5 to 2.5 ohms to the EC60 output at the front. At the moment I am using 2 x 55 Watt car headlight bulbs in series, but intend to improve on this using 4 x 100W 8 ohm resistors in parallel (2 ohms 400 Watts) bolted to heat sinks and a fan to cool them. Do not do what Josh suggests at around the 4 minute point of this video.
You are the Bomb. Thanks for all you do
I finally upgraded from a B6 after about 7yrs. I looked at this but I needed to be able to charge 7S. I found some other chargers that went to 7S but I like the native xt60 output. I went with the ISDT T8. I liked the feature to price ratio. I found chargers I liked better but some of deal breakers were only 6S charging, bullet connector output, very high price. I wish the the Icharger x6 was x7 or 8.
Good video thanks for the info josh
Watched a few of your videos thanks for making my decision alot easier. I'll be sure to use your affiliate link when I purchase minr
Solid video, Joshua -- I'm in the market for a charger... upgrading from the iMAX B6 AC
Excellent review Joshua, thank you, but when manufacturers are looking at a price-point I worry about how these chargers are built. I know you don't often do in-depth tear-downs, but just taking the cover off and looking at the soldering, wiring etc can tell an awful lot. You're more than qualified and it would be nice. :)
Dr. Disrespect in the back lol, YES!
loool xD
but not any longer...
@@RealKushrage Although....
Didn't even notice haha
I like this one!!!!! Great post!!!
Fantastic video - you dropped some knowledge! Would you mind making a video showing the "Discharge ext." feature of this device? I'd love to see it discharge something at 15A, and how that all works. Thanks!!
just bought this...my first fpv will be here next week....:)
I just bought one of these, from Hota. Happy so far!
I got this one through you, love it
By running into this video at random I learned that the charger I've had for 3 months has a settings menu 😂😂😂😂 best part is low volume beeping and only beeping once upon battery completion. Thank you Joshua, I would have gone on hearing those beeps forever 🤣🤣🤣 that's what I get for not looking at the manual!
The Venom Pro Quad has been one of the best purchases I've made in the hobby.
This is one for me :) thanks!
I was dead set on the D6, clicked on your RDQ link, it was on back order. Mean time I came across the UP6+ similar to the D6 but also has ability to check motors and servos. Didn't check the reviews yet. You might want to check it out.
Nice and thorough review! Thanks for sharing! Any thoughts about the HTRC T240 DUO charger? It seems to be a direct alternative to this one. And cheaper.
I think it's the same thing.
Always use a LiPo bag when charging, and preferably have it in sight during charging, OR charge in a dedicated area where it won`t cause damage should something go wrong.
LiPo bags are nice, don`t have that? A metal container of some sort works, but be VERY sure there is NO chance of shorts.
I`ve seen people charge in their sink and metal buckets, I prefer a LiPo bag, it`s cheap, takes no space, weighs nothing, and is a great safety device ;)
Also, if you`re not sure you`re using a pack, remember to store the pack(s) with as close to nominal voltage as possible, (3.7V per cell)
3.6-3.8V per cell is good for long term storage, that`s why things with lithium batteries come with SOME charge, because empty or full, they would arrive broken after being in storage.
Most of you probably know this already, but worth a mention anyway :)
Hi Joshua, excellent review. I am waiting mine and was digging the manual. I found no reference to the regenerative recharge of the external discharge. To me it sounds like a more powerful discharge done through the DC power input. Excerpt from the manual:
"External discharge function makes use of external high-power load resistance to discharge the
battery accurately quickly. When used, the battery to be discharged needs to be connected to the
input port and output the connection resistance load. The recommended load resistance is
between 1.5 and 2.5Ω. Other resistance values can be used normally, but may not run at full
power. When external discharge is running, the load is very hot. Please pay attention to safety and
avoid accidents or personal injury."
Interesting. I didn't look in the manual, but that's not typically how external load works. But okay I can see it. It's still pretty clever. You just need a big load resistor!
Hi, Josh. Love your videos.
I love your comments, Paul! :-)
Thanks for the great info! Have you heard good things about the Revolectrix gt500 2? It's only $75 right now and I can't decide between these two!? Help would be much appreciated!
Fair point they aren't cheap, if I was in the market for a charger solely for 4s quad packs I'd probably go for an ISDT
thanks! love this charger
This is still a solid choice in Oct 2020. But I've seen the HOTA D6+, no review yet.. what do you think about it?
My Thunder Power TP820CD dual chargers have the storage mode and will charge or discharge them to 3.85V automatically.
I need you to make a buidvideo of a 24V 1000W powersupply!
I started the video thinking “this is the one to replace my ailing main charger”.
I ended the video with “Oh crap now I’m not sure what to buy again..”
Sorry... I can't resist.
If I had all your knowledge Joshua Bardwell, I'd RULE THE WORLD!!! BOO HOO HOO HAHAHA (scary laugh inserted here)
But really, Thanks for all you do and for all the great videos you've given us!
You're an awesome fellow and you've "saved my butt" more times than I can mention!
All the best!!!
I decided to go with the iCharger 4010 duo after going through 5 different chargers
I am also interested in building up that powersupply - would be nice if you share how you did that - just want to do that ISDT T8 solution you mentioned! :)
Picked up a Protek 625 duo touch a while back. So tired of the annoying 4 button chargers i had to try something new. 200w x2 in AC charge and a very easy touch screen interface .
Mostly for large 4s packs in the 6-9 amp hour range. Great video. Very well done
It's not 200w x 2. It's 100w x 2, which equals 200w in AC mode.
@@MrDLRuI Incorrect.
from ProTek
"Two independently-controlled 200 Watt internal power supplies provide a staggering 25 amps of charge current - per channel"
@@Silverhaze78 Yup, misread..was thinkin' you were talking about D6. The Pro Tek is too much change for me. I'm doing the 1200w 12v/100A from 240v AC input, server power supply route @ $24. I'll be connecting it to a HOTA D6 for 325w @ 15A per channel...It's kinda ridiculous how they come up with their amperage numbers. With the ProTek, 200w @ 25A, you're only charging at 8v..Makes no sense.
@@MrDLRu Yea It could drop down to ~14amps when charging 4s packs to meet the 200w. 14 amps is way more than what I ever charge at anyways. I charge my 9000mah packs at 1c so they end up charging at around 9amps. It charges fast enough for me. The simplicity of the entire setup is what I like the most anyways.
@@Silverhaze78 Same here on simplicity, as some interfaces are not so simplistic. Really liked the HTRC T400 Pro's interface, but power is limited and I burned one up just using 8a per channel at 12.6v = 100.8w. Your 200w @ 16.8v = 11.9a max. At 14a you're over max watts @ 235.2w. Maybe by the time the charger gets up near the max voltage, the amperage by design starts dropping down so it doesn't reach the wattage limit. Need to watch this for myself sometime.
Great little charger. Now only missing compact Ac-Dc power supply of 300 and that would be perfect 1C charge of 10x 4s 1300mha and 10x 3s 450mha considering the efficiency of 91% 😁 love your parallel boards btw 😁😁 gréât cell protection ;-)
Joshua, can you do a review on scales to weigh our drones. This was a great video.
Joshua, I'm new to FPV flying and I'm researching LIPO Chargers...lots of research. Wondering if you've heard anything about the Spektrum S2100 SMART Charger & Batteries. It seems to be similar to DJI Smart Batteries where it really simplifies the LIPO Charging/Storage/Balancing process. Are folks in the FPV world talking about this stuff...seems like this 'Smart Technology' is a great way to go. Though, certainly a little pricier. Any thoughts on this tech? Again, being new and not having any old gear to maintain thinking this might be a great option....any thoughts?
I just use 3 isdt 608 and my older icharger 108b and a 20a 12v power supply and it takes me around 45-1hr mins to charge my 8-10 1300mah 4s packs i use on a typical day as i HATE parallel charging.
Then i also take one of the isdt 608 with me and a big 10c 5800mah or 2 608s and a 16000mah multistar 4s if im flying for the day
very helpful. Thanks.
6:20 ISDT T6 Lite and T6 balance charge at 1.5 amps and T8 balance charges at 2.2 amps.
Thanks for this video, I bought this charger after watching this video. I am going to predominantly use this charger for my 4S batteries but also wanted to charge my tiny whoop 1S batteries with it. I tried to plug my STRIX 1s LiPo Battery Charger into this charger using a XT60 female and male wire but it said the battery connection was in correct. Is it not working because it is not a parallel charger and also doesn't have the other balance cable? Thanks again for all your help.
Did you ever figure this out? I also need to charge similar Whoop batteries from this charger and am wondering what I need to get in order to connect and charge them.
HOTA D6 Pro AC 200W DC 650W 15A Charger
There's an identical charger for less money
My Revolectrix GT 500 charger lets you pick what voltage you want to start balancing at.
Don't try connecting 2 power supplies together if you don't fully know what you're doing :)
If they're not isolated from the mains, you can short them. If they need to be synced (dc-dc switching) you can damage them etc..
On your comment on whether Hobbymate is cloning or related to ISDT, I was on the Hobbymate website store and noted they had several ISDT items for sale. Seems like there probably is a legitimate relationship.
I have the older and discontinued cheapie Hobbymate D6 Elite pocket charger, and while it isn't a favorite it has an amazing array of bells and whistles. A fully adjustable power supply with simple DC out or PWM etc out. Measurement of many input parameters including waveforms etc. Was wondering if all these features were incorporated in the newer Hobbymate chargers but you didn't mention them. So I guess not?
I have it and love ir!!!
I highly suggest taking a look at the
Ultra Power UP6+ and HATO D6+ Very similar with different options. They are like a D6 on steroids. 300W AC!
Hahaha. While leaning into the fridge. That's great 😂🤘
Hi. I currently flashed my trusty Imax B6 charger with the latest version of cheali. Cheali is an open-source firmware for B6 like chargers. With this firmware is ist possible to define up to 20 profiles for your batteries and balancing is allways an option. Maybe this type of charger is something for you? Greetings from Germany an happy flying. With your vids i allways learn something new about our exciting hobby.
Its great info for our Lipo although where can we get hold of a quality Lipo battery in the first place Ebay is very hit and miss
Hey nice comparison video! I've been looking to buy a new charger. But I don't see the skyrc nano b6 compared anywhere. Any thoughts?
HiTec does a balance charge at 3.84, but I believe that is preset to be a 50% charge.
I went with dual isdt q6 setup + 2 24v 14a led power supplies for only $20 each on ebay ;) only about 10" long and 2 lbs, I wall mounted n added cord switch...no dangerous diy power supply necessary
Price not being a factor what's the best, buy once charger out there? with intergrated power supply or seperate power supply and which one would you reccomend? thanks i've been watching your videos and ended up subscribing thanks again
Hello, Joshua. Can this charger be calibrated like the IDST chargers?
Ps. Love your vids and I try to buy everything through your page to give back. Take care.
Joshes all kind of charger reviews. Of subject can you do a review on scales? Looking for one I can trust that gives me accurate weight. Thanks.
Thank you for very good review! Charger D6 can be charge and discharge 2-6s lixx battery without balance plug? Via only power cable. I want charge batteries from photo/video cameras.
Still learning about FPV so thank you for sharing. Question, why is there a lot of hassle with these batteries and charging and not like other consumer batteries. Surely companies should start making life simpler for everyone and SAFER. Should be plug and play like other devices.
I didn't know about any of this when I bought my Spektrum S100. I used a USB plug into the wall and took an hour to charge a battery for a 7-minute flight. Then I found out I needed a bigger power supply, so I bought a bigger AC power supply (like for a computer). Then I could charge faster, but only up to 4S. When I went to 6S I really should have gotten this one instead of the Spektrum S2100. If I had I would at least be available to charge at the field, rather than charging batteries all morning and getting to the field so late that I didn't even use all the batteries that I had charged. At this point I'm considering just buying a portable generator. Thanks for the information.
Excuse me Mr Bardwell sir, but toothbrushes *have* been known to catch on fire
_There was a major recall not too long ago_
That was a very solid and informative review of a neat and effective charger but I don't do FPV racing and my biggest batteries are only 2s and happily charge at 1c or under, singly and whilst I can watch them so I only need mains power.
I've been charging 2C for a year, all I got is Tattus 75C 850mah and 95C 1550mah, I never had any issues
8:53 soo swag!
Was surprised that they also have it in DC only, quite a price saving.
@JoshuaBardwell have you done a video on how to update the firmware on this? I bought the Hota D6 Pro and there is no way I can get it in Firmware update mode.
How accurate are Hota Chargers Joshua? I'm interesting in the D6 Plus with 300 Watts DC
I'd love to see a good lipo charger that either has bluetooth or wifi communication settings to work with a smart phone. This would be for alerts and telemetry to the operator so they can have a constant automated status of their charge.
Q200
Thanks!
Joshua , you are the Big Lebowski. You are the " DUDE" !
isdt t8 balances at the end of storage mode, which is a balance at 3.8v.
Feel better about buying this. Next time I'm going to watch your review first... but I got lucky on this one.
The Hyperion chargers balance at whatever storage voltage you select.
Joshua, the Hobbymate models and the HOTA models appear to be identical, but the HOTA is cheaper. Are you aware of any reason to stay away from the HOTAs? Another great video, thanks.