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Jarrod, hats off to you and Big Battery. This can take vanlife to the next level and has the potential to power everything you have in a van and not worry too much about space and weight. Great content and keep up your innovative approach to helping all those that love this lifestyle. 👍🏻❤️
Ok this just up ended all the work I was starting on the van I want to build out in the next year to go full time 24/7 van life. The big thing that was holding me back was the research on solar and battery's along with all the stuff I wanted to run.
I live in Idaho so we are talking cold winters and hot summers. So ac/heating is a must have.
Then we add in I am a PC gamer. So on my days off from work I wanted to be able to Have my PC going along with if/when needed cooling/heating, then I had to think ok time for food there we are talking hotplate/microwave/air fryer or some other item to cook a meal on.
So yea time to go back to the drawing board after looking into these guys some more!
I posted in your part 1 to this video … for those of you on the fence about Big Battery and your RV, I’ve been using a 12v OWL Max 2 system for a year now in my camper van, no issues. I initially bought one, then another three months later, and finally my third a month ago to support my new install of a 12v DC air conditioner. Total it’s over 9 KW of battery (684 ah), enough to run my AC for 8-10 hrs plus depending on temp. When you compare the capacity against some popular LFP alternatives (I won’t mention names) you will find Big Battery is by far the better value. My only criticism is the size cable on the Anderson plug it ships with … I made my own 2 AWG cable/Anderson connector to replace the thinner wire that ships with the batteries. My three batteries are wired in parallel, they are each safely contained in a metal container (with fire suppressant module inside) and no way to arc the electrical contacts (as they are recessed. Not affiliated in any way, the batteries met my needs (and saved a bunch of money compared to what I could have gotten with the same money buying a competitor’s product). Will Prouse (spelling)? Did a tear down video of the OWL on UA-cam … very informative and shows great engineering. Best, Dave
Oh, I was wondering if Will Prowse had done any reviews on these batteries, on his YT channel! I'll go check that out. Thanks for the info about your build and your satisfaction with these batteries. User endorsements carry a lot of weight for these big investments.
Hey, if you donʻt mind me asking, how many solar panels you install at first and what type of install? (parallel panels or series or both?) I have 6 panels 100watts each with a owl max 2 kit (aims 2000w inverter/charger) and dont know how to install the panels. thank you.
Great video, great company, thank you!
Concerning 12V / 48V: 48 is better because you need way thinner cables to deliver the required Watts. Makes installation easier, cheaper and lighter. Automobiles were supposed to go to 48V but back then, everybody thought it was too hard to go to 48 concerning all the applications like radios, sat nav, etc. So we still stick to 12V and this is the reason why most EVs have a 12V battery on top to run the legacy 12V stuff. Smart it is not.
This brings me to my wish(list) for my vanlife:
A battery that
* can be charged via solar from 12-24V
* has the B2B charger built in to trigger the alternator to the max and prevent backflow
* can be charged "like an EV" at the EV chargers if I need to (e.g. battery is drained and I want to fast charge it)
* has 12, 24 AND 48V output (reason see above) built in so that I can connect each an every 12, 24 or 48 application that I need / 12V if I have to, 48V if I can
* has the inverter built in (like R2B2) for the 110 (and 230 for Europe) apps (as opposed to your remark I'd go for DC where available, since the AC inverter lowers efficiency)
* has the above list modular replaceable if needed, so that it can be repaired by most skilled shops without sending the whole pack in
* includes the cells, so maybe I can replace a single "blade" and wait for the replacement without having to send the whole unit in so that I still have power
* can be extended with packs without doubling, tripling, ... the price (since the wish-list above will require advanced systems, but extending the capacity would just require the "relatively dumb" cells to be added if required)
* BT monitoring of all components goes without saying ;-)
Again thank you and amazing that people still exist that don't go for maximum profit but want to make a change.
Well said about the 12/48V explanation. Regarding your build, I sense the theme is you need a very high level of reliability, which you will achieve with redundancy. I would recommend using more than one battery at the same voltage and paralleling them. For example, a Rhino wall battery is 14 kWh @ 48V, but you can also get 3 Huskies which are 5.3 kwh each and all at 48V and a parallel busbar. Call in and we will sell you the busbar even though it's in a kit. That way you have 15.9 kWh which is close, but more importantly, redundancy. -Marshall Neipert CTO BigBattery
Wow Jarrod.... The fact that these guys have really opened up the whole facility to you is great... The fact that these guys have shown you exactly what they are up to, for the consumer and the manufacturing market says a ton!! The fact that they want to here from the consumers in order to make the best battery for everyone's application is just awesome!!!!! I'm not even in the soon market for a van/bus life build, but I can tell you this, I know what battery will power it when I do get there!!!!!!! Thank you for this Jarrod!!!
I was in a van club back in the 70's and 80's and we were in the stone age . what you guys have today is amazing
Kong just means the Gorilla that climbed the Empire State Building. LOL
you want us to tell that aerospace engineer what to build?
Want --> Roof mounted (or underslung) battery boxes
Need --> to maximise space in a van, have something that will run an ac constantly at max for half a day (I live in Australia), potential for swap n go.
That’s freaking cool. Good job, Jarrod, on sourcing these guys!!
I’m going to say that If I were building a van right now, I’d want the most battery I could get, that would fit between the wheel wells. If it was long and thin and low-profile, so the rest of the electrical equipment could hang on the “bulkhead” above it, there would be more room in the garage for storage.
I love what these guys are doing... I'll definitely be a customer!
This was great! These guys seem like a really great company. I haven't even begun to think about powering a van yet, but I have been looking into solar for my house. I get the feeling if I called them and told them what I have to power they would sell me exactly what I need not just pitch me the rhino with the highest price tag. That's a rarity these days. Thanks for the info Jarrod!
I just need to be able to run AC @ 75 in the hellish heat of Death Valley with tons of amps to spare. Yeah - I’ll have 1200 watts of retracting solar ready too.
This was great! I am planning an off-grid tiny home and a van, so nice to see options. These guys sound great. I hope the customer service and customization ability will continue. Definitely going to reach out to discuss my needs!
We have tripled our customer success reps in the last year. -Marshall Neipert CTO BigBattery
So awesome. I can't wait to build my cabin now to live off grid for the rest of my life.
Very informative Jarrod... beyond van-life the home application is really something I been contemplating. Where I live everyone is pushing solar (Phoenix, AZ east valley area), but I also wanted a way to store the energy for 24hr usage. In the summer my modest 1600sq ft single story home costs me about $500 for electric. I believe I will be checking out Big Battery a little closer, and when the time comes for choosing a solar company, I will have them check out Big Battery in order to save me money and also get the right application product for my needs.
If you are spending $500 a month for electricity on your 1,600 square foot house, you need to get an energy audit. There is a problem somewhere 😬
@@crabkilla nah that’s normal for Phoenix. Every degree below 78 you set your AC at is an extra $100 a month for roughly 2000 square feet. My parents had a large house with a pool (pump eats electricity) and it was single story with a basement at 4500 square feet. Half the house was kept at 84 the other at 79 and $600 was a good bill in July and August, $900 happened a few times. Their pool pump was massive so maybe deduct $150.
A one bedroom apartment with LED lights, a fridge, AC at 79, once a week one load of laundry is $200 and that’s doing everything possible in July and August to reduce electricity usage
These guys sound like a very cool group and a very good company!
Thank you for your support. -Marshall Neipert CTO BigBattery
I would love a way to have a light weight powerful battery that would assist in environmental control for a small towable or roof mountable greenhouse. My dream is to be able to grow and share food while on the road.
Thanks for sharing this Jarrod, great content for sure, I might already just now a new plan to invest in one for my van later when I have money saved. I'm still working on my van conversion build and almost halfway done with still more to do yet. But, definitely keep this in mind to add to my plans and see what one later I would need to help supply to what I need in my van, etc. Again thanks for all you do 😉👍 take care be blessed and safe too.
Bought mine last year and was excited to have for our rig. Unfortunately, my experience with BB is they’ve had some bumpy roads along the way, and I had to be part of it for six months… long story. But I do like their builds and wish they would go back to more 24v options. Even though 12v is very common, 24v requires half the voltage with only a converter as an extra piece of equipment.
I want a 4000 watt hour(real usable capacity 0% to 100% 4000 total on ac output), 3000 watt inverter all in one system that uses the longer battery cells. The inverter needs to have the highest efficiency possible, as in less than 2 percent phantom power drain per hour. I need one 30 amp RV plug, one or two 12v 30 Amp DC port high efficiency & regulated, all USB C(multiple 100 watt USB C, don't need USB B anymore). DC output efficiency needs to be 1% draw per hour or less. I want 1500-3000 watts of solar solar input with mppt. The kicker here is that it needs to have a logical voltage range that make sense for the amount of solar input. We wouldn't be using 100 watt 12 volt panels with a sys of this calibur so don't waste the resources for adding it. Pass through charging. Integrated AC charger, I want the wall charger built in. Integrated DC to DC charger to hook up to car battery while charging at least 500-800 watts. It all needs to be integrated(inside the unit). The dimensions of the all in one system would be long and narrow. So it could be oriented vertically or horizontally in a Van. Physical buttons for AC & DC inverter/distribution. Touch screen control as well. The touch screen needs to be replaceable/removeable/relocatable and water resistant. As in the touch controller. Bluetooth & wifi remotely controllable so we can monitor it remotely. I want the screen to turn off after a time. It must have estimation of run time based on current load. All the ports need rubber covers. This is my dream system. Please make it. I know it's going to be a challenge to make this affordable but I'm willing to spend as much as $5k USD to have it all in one.
My hat's off to you least somebody's doing right for the people thank you
I am happy to see a face behind the Co. I live off grid and I bought the Kong it works vary well but because I live in a camper I thought I would only have to charge it once every week or 2 only to find out that lasts less than 24 hours mind you I was running the air but for an off-grid power I thought it would last longer. Right now I charge it with a portable generator which burns 5 Gal's of gas to charge and it makes pretty expensive to run we are on pay-go so we don't have solar panel's yet. Our most cost effective system we have right now is our Prius with a 2000 watt inverter.What I need is inverter that runs on 12 volt and puts out 240 Volt and is split phase to charge my Big Battery and you have that I will buy it if you can do it cheaper than solar panels for now. Good show Thanks!
It would be amazing to get that razor form factor just as powerful as the husky line so us van lifers can be a little more flexible as to where and how we store then for space efficiency. Thats a cool design.
What do you think of the battery in the previous video where Jarred does a walkthrough of our facility at time 15 : 40? That prototype is essentially a 7kWh Razorback at 48V, or a half Rhino depending on how you look at it. You can generally see what the final shape will be. -Marshall Neipert CTO BigBattery.
That's what we need people like him help poor people out Excellent work 👍 woooow
Very excellent work, ideas, thoughts, considerations, ect thank you so much for sharing all this information with all of us!! Have a wonderful day!☺❤👍
Great video, I really enjoyed it and very informative. Thanks!
This is the best ting since sliced bread.
You had me at BIG….
Very informative. Thanks. This question is for @Marshall Neipert . For our Overlander expedition camper rig that we are building for a documentary film, we have been told what we want to power would not be weight or cost effective.
great info thanks guys
I was excited to watch this video, as I will be in the market for a battery system in about 18 months and a cost-effective lithium option is preferred. However, the info provided was confusing and the batteries seemed to jump from too small to house-sized. I wish this video had been targeted to those of us who are not electricians, focused on batteries appropriate to vans/RVs and what we want to run, and adjusted to our language of amp/hours. These guys do seem sincere about providing quality, cost-effective products.
Check about the 8 minute mark. He goes through the different sizes and mentions which is best for a golf cart and a van...
@@BrooklynAlien I watched the video. Sure, they mentioned it, and that was all. The info was woefully inadequate compared to other battery discussions on other channels. I would have liked to have heard more info more specific to vans. These guys were too busy selling their entire line, not focusing on the van/RV community, which is the audience here.
Well you need to learn to leave amp hours behind and learn how to measure in kilowatt hours. The mobile crowd also needs to learn to leave 12v solar panels behind and use 100+v panels.
This seems like a great company! I hope they do well and feel they will be bringing a lot to this industry . Im currently building an offgrid home, and this seems like the easy button. I purchased a Aims 12k inverter and being in Arizona, Im obviously intrested in air conditioning and figured the way to go was with split system A/C'S BUT FEEL THE KONG OR DUAL rinos may handle more... Im definetly intrigued and this videos introduction to their products is fantastic! Thank you all for making it possible.
This looks awesome , hope I can get one of these for my build in the future !:)
Knowledge, attitude, great products.
Please offer financing for these battery systems. Big Battery, you guys rock!
Thank you so much! I am in need of a battery for my solar panels in my home, and these are cheaper than was was quoted by the solar company by over 50%.
love your work
The only question I had left was I already have 2 lithium batteries. Can these work with other batteries?
Likely yes. You need to match chemistry and series, then you can parallel. Common misconception is you have to match capacity to parallel, which is a myth. So for example, if you have a LiFePO4 (LFP) at 4S configuration (4 cells in series), this is a standard configuration for LFP so you can parallel any of our 12V batteries. If you need more help, please send an email to support@bigbattery.com and tell them what you have and they will help you. -Marshall Neipert CTO BigBattery
@@BigBattery_CTO I will definitely email. This is awesome. I have a schoolie that is being converted.
I would like to see bluetooth app and heated capabilities to charge in cold weather! Great video great company love there philosophy! Definitely on my radar for purchase hope to see the up grades! Full time rver!
48v RZBK form factor would be amazing always dreamed about getting 48v from these guys
Wow i like the battery packs you show case especially that one of 36V but our location makes it hard to get even though you got cash
Careful with the DIY approach. In many jurisdictions you can't just put "whatever" inside a house and meet code. In Ontario these would have to be UL9540a certified and you can only store upto 20kWh total inside a residence. So if you want to dump a load of cash on something only to risk liability later, do it the youtuber way... cheers!
I want a battery system for my home, for my guest house, and for my entegra qwest soon to come. What i need is the connection between decision and
Installation of these systems. Love the video and all the guys working to make this happen.⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
This is what I want: flat form batteries for van life, so they can go under the floor of the van. I feel like that would be the best use of space.
That is fun knowledge to absorb. Thanks man. Good content. 👍🏼
I live in a '93 Pace Arrow. It has Two AC units , Two Desktop computers, security camera's, 4 monitors and TV's . were living large. Yep I'm gunna drop thousands of dollars to go off grid. But I want it in the form a a trailer. So I can upgrade my RV, and simply move my solar over to the new rig. The interface should be a 50 amp plug in, for powering the RV, just as at the RV park. A solar input from panels on the RV pigtail, as well as on top of the trailer itself. And A 30 and 50 amp input, for available plug ins if we are in an RV park as options. The batteries on the inside, the plugs on the outside. Nothing (necessarily) installed on the RV, instant modular RV park plug in, for permanent RV living. RV's wear out, it's a lot of cost and modifications necessary to install all the things. Give us the option please.
you make one up with a total package where you have to do just plug it in that would be nice plug it in you don't have to worry about charging it or nothing and last lifetime for a house I buy one if I can forward it
Loved the video! Maybe think about having internal heaters for those RV batteries and a 12v 300ah battery in about a similar size to the 12v 228ah battery size. I say this as my class C battery compartment basically fits the 2 12v 100ah lead acid batteries with just a little extra room to play. I am sure there are more people with limited space. I'm trying to get as much ah as posible. For me 15"" is the biggest size of the compartment. Thanks!
"R2B2" came right out of the same plant as the Mango battery
Very informative
something like an R2B2 for van life that also has cigarette lighter charging, the ability to expand capacity, plus included port/wire to an external 12v fuse panel.. I'm envisioning putting this down, plugging into alternator charging via cigarette lighter, plugging in external fuse block, plugging in solar panels and done for the entire van. Then want to add 12v ac- just buy couple expansion packs and done! I know this is all possible pretty much as I described but I don't feel like any one company has nailed it into it's final form yet.....still missing the "apple" of solutions, if you will. Or that ones that do basically this don't have enough expansion for 12v ac... or heck and all in one 24v or 48v that his integrated step down to 12v.... again looking for the "apple" level solution!
We just installed a solar array and we've been looking for a good battery backup because Tesla is too expensive and production seems to be an issue. I follow Jarrod because I love RV/Vans so I saw this and it turns out that my spouse was watching another one of your Big Battery videos on one of his solar channels! We compared notes and it looks like yours fits the bill - but not until the end of the year. ($$) Great, informative video - thanks!
Brilliant they need to get in Canada 🇨🇦💚
I was hoping that you might have had Eric talk about their Battery Evo products. I heard you mention Evo but I guess it didn't come up. I know they build the Evo batteries in the same facility. I have two of the EVO 12v 180Ah batteries(similar to the Owl) for my solar system. Even though they are re-certified/used cells, the batteries work perfectly. I like the cost savings the EVO line offers. Still get a warranty, and I got free shipping. I have a DIY 24v system, 800 watts of solar and run a 23cft Samsung refrigerator, 11cft freezer 24/7. A 75" flat screen TV 5-7 hours a day, a small window ac in a back bedroom for 3 hours a day and a front load washer and gas dryer once a week. I have cut my electrical consumption in half so far.
This is great......wow.
Build a battery that fits over the wheel well protrusion in a van. Cha-ching!
Make sure it makes the dimensions of the Ram ProMaster, Ford Transit and Mercedes Sprinter, either Make/Model Specific, or Universal and takes all Makes/Models in allowance.
I have two of the 12v OWL batteries mounted in this exact space. I built a framework out of 80/20, and fits great. With all the different measurements of all the vans in the universe, I think it would be pretty impossible to market a single product with measurements to fit all vans ….
I love the culture of the company! I would love to buy the Rhino but I need communications with the battery BMS to integrate into my inverter that has RS-485/CAN bus via Ethernet
Battery life is a vaporous subject in the real world. My lead acid are 5 years old on my solar power and my data acquisition system that plots charge/discharge cycles shows the same parameters (battery capacity) I saw 5 years ago. Have a friend with 9 year old lead acid.
A battery that fits over the wheel well
Stellar! The kits are perfect with the Aims 2kw inverter. I only have one concern/question: what gauge of wire is being used with the connections? 2kw inverter that can surge 6kw should have thicker cable right? Like 2/0 awg?
I’m beginning building another van, and your video just changed my plans. Stoked! Thanks.
I would like to see a car replacement battery that just uses the basic terminals
A good affordable product.. Why haven't you developed a pre and post EMP policy? Your batteries have componets that WILL fail with a EMP. It would be helpful to purchase those componets for hardened storage for post-event restoration as your Customer Service will NOT be reachable by anything but telegraph or smoke signals.
Damn, this is awesome. Feel like a kid in a vanlife candyshop lol.
Seems to be an error here: at 18:50 Jarrod suggests why not just run everything incl 12v off "one big old inverter" rather than have a smaller inverter: surely NOT.
Your inverter consumes energy: it costs power to run it, converts your precious electricity to heat. You don't want to use any larger inverter than is needed to run your appliance. So if you're pulling small for a razor, lighting etc., you do not want to be pulling that off a 3,000 watt inverter. That'll kill your battery far faster than using a 1,000w inverter (or better, a 150w inverter) if something that small would work.
Catalogue your appliances, do the math. You probably need 2 inverters: one big, one small. And run as much as possible on pure DC; use AC through an inverter as little as possible.
It's probably well worth it to pay more for DC appliances (fridge/freezer etc.) to avoid running AC any more than is absolutely necessary.
Am I wrong? Someone correct me if so.
I need batteries that allow me to live AND work full time in a van with all the comforts. 2 monitors, large cpu/gcard computer, AC and a big fridge/freezer. I'm just starting to think this through and figure out what I need realistically to not think about my power bank if I have enough for the day.
Great information!
So I randomly come across this on youtube and I have a few ideas to pass on.
rack mount (like the R2D2) to replace the really heavy UPS. I know as I do it for some jobs.
mobile wifi deployments for festivals (a cart/trailer with battery to power the wifi for music festivals) also charges when driving to the next location.
battery backup for remote telecoms towers (then maybe get a subscription for repair / replace)
partner up with a solar company to deploy these as part of there installation.
maybe expand the U.K. with 240v versions (please)
Flat on the floor designed to be COG just forward of the rear axel, low weight, low in the van weight, heated, waterproof, vented, zero maintenance. Gettin a Rhino
My question and major hurdle into buying an all in one kit is i dont know how to hook all of this stuff up. How do you hook up this to your breaker box? Can i just hire an electrician and would he know how to safely hook it up or do i need a solar installer professional that does this for a living to come to my house and install it. I just dont want to burn my house down. Alittle help would be appreciated so that my wife will go along with a feasable plan.
The bad thing about the rino is there is no inverter inside, I want something all in one like a walrus but 48 volt and phosphate like rino.
I have a SLA 36V UPS and would like to use your battery as a true drop-in replacement. That means I'm keeping the charger. The BMS has to mimic a SLA on the charger side and boost and provide the necessary charging characteristics on the battery side. This battery will sit adjacent to the UPS and connect with extended wire into the battery compartment. This way I can use a larger capacity battery. Do you have such a battery? Call it the Cameleon series. Thanks.
What kind of system would you need to operate an incinerator toilet, a/c, and a refrigerator
I like the Rhino but I wish it could be mounted vertically on the wall (rotated 90 degrees from the supplied mounting hardware.) #HomeBackup
Unlike most manufacturer, BigBattery does NOT comply with any regulation such as EMI, electrical safety, or battery standard.
Razorback puncture test ua-cam.com/video/vS1J1AyFrjo/v-deo.html. Tesla is UL listed. I don't think I want a Tesla Wall in my home.
Would be great if you could get these into the UK market.
The fact that he says he wants to make this more affordable yet he's pricing items for $15k LMAO 😅😅😅 I'll make my own thanks though 👍🏽
Kong is an animal... King Kong! 🤣
Fictional animal.
Now you need a Looonnngggg Live!!!! 😂
I had no idea BigBattery offered VanLife solutions. That’s my life 🎈
Love the price point on the Kong Elite. When will the be available. Web site currently shows out of stock
Excellent video
I don’t know too much about this stuff but I know I want to power a mini split 900 btu as well as an air fryer in my future van
say goodbye to those little solar generators
For the Can Life
I wish that we can Have one Battery that has no Thermals or low temp Issues in snow or hot weather and includes the inverter in it, That could run, Computer with 144 Hz Monitor and fridge, and heat system and AC Unit and water pump System and can be charged from the Solar and Van at the same time. And can run 24 hours with no issues at all.
Which one of the models that you showed us could do that ?
Thank you for sharing this video 💞💞...
It seems battery videos can attract comments of people whose mental battery is low. I like the company and will look into using them on an off grid system.
Because vans and tiny homes are so tiny, I would like to see weight and dimension specs posted, and specs for clearance from walls and stacking configuration.
I want to see specs for max solar allowed for each unit (charge controller specs limits).
I currently have 12-volt system, 3.6kwh on 2000 watt inverter and 1280-watts solar. What I would change? 4.8kwh would be minimum ideal for overnight and multi-day use, 6.0kwh would be NICE!!! I find a 2000-watt inverter is MINIMUM acceptable with compromise. I really need 2700-3000-watt inverter so I can run my AC and microwave at the same time, while my fridge and deep freezer are still covered, too. (Yeah, all that in my 23' shuttle bus). I currently can't run AC and microwave.at the same time. I generally can charge about 5.0 kwh on a good sunny day, if needed in the summer. In the winter, that drops down to about a max of 3.6 kwh/day. So sometimes I need that extra battery power to cover for bad weather days.
Another question is the r2d2 model that just plugs in like a ac unit to charge it with solar panels do you put this r2d2 unit outside so that you can plug in the solar panel wires?
Build a higher capacity R2B2 in an over-the-wheel-well form factor and include DC2DC
What we need is to be able to monitor these batteries BMS remotely
Damn, those blade batteries in an under floor install?
IMHO all motor vehicles as well as marine vessels wif an ICE engine ought to move to a 48V alternator system...
Whats the price for all 24volt systems you show here ???
Possible to shipping for norway???
Are you guys working on any technology like the dewalt powerstack to do away with cells and save even more space?
I need a need a big amp hour battery for my 48v ebike...i use my ebike a lot with a trailer hauling stuff around up a lot of hills with heavy loads.. what would be the best option ,thats light and packs a punch...i`m trying to find the best bang for the buck...
I need an All in 1 system to Run AC and or heat 4 cell phone a large flat screen plus on demand water heater for 1 week min. Be able to recharge via anything 110, solar, fossil generator
I got the GRIZ 48 v. 9.2 kwh, discontinued 😮
What are the recycling options for these batteries? How much percent of these batteries are recyclable?
Question the company itself
Someone really needs to stop Eric and clarify that LTO is safer, better temp range and cycle life to outlast a human
It’s just 5X the price of LFP roughly (when you really shop for LFP cells and not buy premade batteries, LTO battery packs are just stupid expensive so DIY is the only route)
I’m disappointed ☹️ you don’t do international shipping… other than that you all doing a great 👍 job.. best wishes for your new projects!!