The Black Parade on ModDB (it won Mod of the Year!)- www.moddb.com/mods/thief-the-black-parade Thief on GOG - gog.la/TafferMischief TFix & Lite Links - www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134733 This was an unexpected turn for the schedule, but I would genuinely feel bad not screaming out The Black Parade exists.
I have an idea! Lets celebrate Christmas and new years eve with a warhammer game review like old times😊! P.S. Please review Rouge Trader,Darktide or total war warhammer 3 DLC!
Yeah, since Rogue Trader is done by a russian studio that jumped to cyprus to avoid embargos but still will pay russian taxes via their workers... Yeah... I won't be playing Rogue Trader anytime soon unless I pirate it.
Dude. You and your team crushed this! Ive been a fan since of the Thief franchise for years, I'd heard about the mod through a friend and it has been a real treat. 10/10 i love it.
The absolute best line from the FAQ in the docs for this custom campaign: "Q: Are you guys fans of My Chemical Romance? A: No. This is what happens when you think you have a cool name and don’t Google it beforehand."
@@LazyBuddyBan The documentation in the mod has a frequently asked questions section. The Black Parade is also the name of an album by emo / punk rock embarrassments My Chemical Romance.
I'd love to see a thief 4 video, analyzing why the game "failed" and what the game does right, as takeaway points for anyone who's either creating fan missions for thief games or creating a new stealth game altogether.
I can only imagine how proud someone must be who, as a creator, made a game with the technology they had available at the time. And then 25 years later, the fans of that which you have created have been compelled enough to carry forward and expand upon your work with this scale.
Kind of the ultimate reward for creating art yeah? You make something that enthralls and inspires such interest that a quarter-century later folks are not only still talking about and engaging with your work, but building off of it in a most literal and beautiful way.
@@RomaraAhallow Absolutely. Unlike a big payday, artistic fulfilment and knowing you inspired people is the kind of reward that lasts. From the modders who make monolithic projects like this with your game as a basis, to the people who enjoyed it then and re-install it when they need to unwind or find some escapism. That's something to be incredibly proud of.
Without having seen Madalore's previous videos about this saga, this review was precisely the fault of a MOD that caught me so much with the emotion that Mandalore reflects that I decided to start playing the ENTIRE Thief saga for the first time... What an incredible decision. I finished the entire trilogy in a few months, then I finally played "The Black Parade." I completely fell in love with these games. And now I'm back here to say "thank you"
@@BAAa-tw7lo Do it! Just for context: I'm a guy more into RTS and FPS games, and I still really enjoyed Thief. Personally, I think that (because of the age of the games), the first title may have a learning curve, after that, I felt another difficult acceptance curve with Thief 3. Everything else, excellent and fun.
It was a privilege to be able to contribute to this, it's truly a landmark in the Thief community and all the new developments on display are going to be a real game changer- the same way Thief 2X was all the way back in 2005.
Feeling foolish that this mod review was what finally tipped me into playing Thief. Huge fan of Deus Ex, System Shock, Dishonored, Prey, Bioshock etc. but always felt like Thief was just a bit too antiquated. This mod convinced me to pop in and give it a try, and made me realize that not only is Thief not a simple, feature lacking version of modern immersive sims, but that modern releases hardly even imitate its quality and vision.
You discovered hot water my friend. Welcome to the taffer club. Funnily enough, System Shock 2 doesn't have that antiquated stigma, even though it runs on the same engine as the Thief games. And actually Thief II is made after System Shock 2.
I discovered a few years ago that there no games that play like thief. Sure Hitman comes close but has still a different focus. Usually im annoyed when levels take longer than 30minutes to complete but in Thief it's part of the atmosphere and completing a level feels so satisfying.
Thief и Deus Ex между собой вообще будут очень сильно похожи, в плане анимаций, моделей персонажа. Я после Deus Ex попробовал Thief:2 и чувствовал себя как дома, хотя в игре куда глубже стелс, есть механики паркура, более крутой звук, а когда появились механисты со своими камерами и роботами я такой ну точно Deus Ex про средневековье😂 Единственное колоссальное отличие - построение уровней, если Deus Ex я смог пройти без подсказок с интернета, игра интуитивная в этом плане, то Thief вообще мимо если ты не внимательный, не мало уровней я там увы прошел с помощью сайта DarkFate
Once again, Mandy proves to be the saviour of the broken, defeated and the damned. And also signal-boosting one of the coolest things to come out of the modding scene this year. I should really get into this after Arcane Dimensions. And also Wizordum.
So glad this channel promoted this mod! This video prompted a huge deep dive for me - I ended up playing through all three original games, plenty of FMs, including Thief 2X, Death's Cold Embrace, Seven SIsters, the Rocksbourg trilogy and Godbreaker, all in preparation for The Black Parade. Having gone through all of that, I genuinely would recommend people at least play the first two games all the way through _before_ playing TBP. This campaign is an absolute, genuine masterpiece of Thief level design and atmosphere, with all the intricacies you could ever hope for in this gameplay style present, mastered and sharpened to the highest degree. As a result of all this indulgent excellence, however, I think any fresh-faced newcomer would be utterly overwhelmed, confused and frustrated by the sheer scale and complexity of it all. That said, anyone even _remotely_ interested should absolutely check it out, just be aware that due diligence really is a requirement.
11:23 What are you so frightened of? Come to me... It was seriously a privilege to have gotten to do voicework and later betatest this beast. I will forever be in awe of the dedication and craft of the team. Hope you enjoyed my contribution, and may The City never die!
Daily reminder that everyone should check out The Dark Mod. It's an standalone total conversion of Doom 3 that's Thief but legally distinct, and it has an active community of Thief veterans that make missions throughout the year. For a free fan game, it's an impressive testament of how passionate the Thief modding community is even when the franchise is dead.
Another vote of confidence for The Dark Mod. It's provided some of the best experiences of this genre of stealth, even when compared to all official efforts (indie or AAA).
@@UnKnownv5 it's by far the best Thief campaign to date. It has its own music, sound, textures, models, animations, etc, and its very visually appealling. No idea what this comment is on about lol
on that note, there's a great mod for Gothic 2. It's called "The Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos" and it's a full campaign, I think you'd really enjoy it!
@@Arxfatal1 It was like reliving the initial playthrough of Gothic, only without the magic "I'd wish I could forget knowing this so I can experience it again" spell, loved it
Would love to play it... but only if it doesn't adhere too much with Gothic III, which I hate. At least Thief: Deadly Shadows has redemption value to begin so to make me want to enjoy The Black Parade.
@@michaelandreipalon359 it's like a true Gothic 1 & 2 successor, nothing like Gothic 3. So I'd say go for it, it's free as long as you have Gothic 2 after all :)
Every time i see a popular person talking about thief, i feel heard. Civvie and mandalore have both made great videos on it. I can only wish that Thief reaches some major breaking point in gaming media. There can never, ever ever be too much thief in my life.
Blessed be the mod makers. I salute you all for your community service. If only you could create as much as you wish. Hopefully the artists wont starve some day.
Appreciate your community service to Mandalore. Hope ya do more mod reviews. Whichever game you prefer, its your channel after all. These people deserve recognition for what they do.
This reminds me of how I felt when I first played Enderal for Skyrim. From the music to world building and lore I kept forgetting that it wasn't a separate, real game but a mod. Definitely will give this one a try, thanks!
Damn, this mod looks amazing! It fills my heart knowing there's a dedicated group of old Thief fans like myself making love letters to this legendary trilogy. The scale of the maps is unreal and I wanna get lost in them snagging loot. Can't wait to play this!
I always love to see Thief Fan Missions represented, there are a ton of extremely high quality levels, I'm like 3 levels into this one and it's fantastic, always love to see Lady Rowena represented after her passing, she was a sublime map maker
I went through all of high-school watching your videos. Now I’m going through all of college watching your videos. Thank you for all the content you make 🎉
I was given the honor of betatesting this absolute behemoth, and all I can say to my fellow Thief fans is: go play it if you want to experience Thief as if it was the first time
Just wanna say, I watched a few minutes of your video on Stasis: Bone Totem and decided to start playing it. I'm a COD kiddy and this is my first true adventure game, and boy am I enjoying this. Thanks for talking about it I wouldn't have given it a shot otherwise.
You know smth is gonna be good when Mandalore resurrects the Mod Spotlight series to talk about it. Seriously though would love to see you cover more mods on games.
thank you so much for showing the mod off and choosing not so spoil a single thing. i cant wait to load up dark parade today and dive back into modded thief
Love the fact that every good thief game video presented in this channel kicks in with assassins's track. Even though i loved the third installment for introducing me to the series anyway. Love your work.
I'm currently at Mission 5 and maybe it's because I had the brilliant idea of playing it at night, but I was soooo on edge throughout the whole thing. Also I love a little moment I had during Mission 4, the "Bonehoard" one described in the video: while exploring the tomb I kept thinking: "The layout here strangely reminds me more of Dark Souls catacombs than the Bonehoard" and lo and behold... someone in the dev team probably thought the same thing.
I see what you mean, I kept forgetting this was a mod during the video and just assumed this was another of the series. There are plenty of mods that can add more to your game, but to get a mod that is its own game is such an amazing feat. Incredible work and hats off to the mod team!
10:17 You're not wrong. My favorite realization when going through the 2nd level is that it's the same manor where the Constantine hiring Garrett cutscene takes place in the first game. In the sitting room on the second floor, you can find that weird clock on the fireplace and the hanging man window above it (seen in 9:20). Also, in a hidden cellar behind the bar, you can find the plant wine that Constantine offers Garret as well. While references aren't what make something great, the way Black Parade put this one in without any fanfare made it so cool to discover.
This makes sense to me and loved seeing those details! Always wondered why Garrett would walk into the same house he just robbed to meet with his commissioner - it never occurred to me Constantine invited him to another house!
Would come home from school, block up my window to deny all light and dive into the world of Garret. My fav PC game of all time. The dark project. Even my name Dark Genix was birthed from this game.
I’m blown away by the texture quality. How there’s a high level of detail while still following the fidelity of the 90s and early 2000s eras of 1st-person PC gaming has my jaw dropped and my wig flying out the window. I don’t own any high-graphical-fidelity games that have released after 2016 due to aging hardware, so when amazing “old guard” communities for my favorite games: Thief, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines, Rome Total War 2005, and Daggerfall Unity are still working on and publish content, I get so, SO overjoyed!!!
I remember when Thief: The Dark Project released the downloadable demo in 90's. My brother and I downloaded the 55MB demo and had my dad's HP Pentium + AOL dial up going while we went to Church. Ah the days...
I've never even played Thief, but i love seeing projects like this. Just a bunch of dedicated fans pooling their resources to contribute to something they genuinely love. Honestly, there are alot of developers that could take a lesson from this. Congrats to all those who worked on this mod.
The Thief fan mission community has one of the absolute highest standards of any modding/fan mission community out there. It's absolutely crazy what some of them put out. I love Thief 1 and 2 so much and I love the mission design in those games, but the modders have improved SO MUCH on what Looking Glass put out over 2 decades ago. It's genuinely incredible. It reminds me a lot of the people behind Tamriel Rebuilt are doing. They're building on the foundations laid by the original developers, but have refined the art so, so much. And this is all on top of the extreme fragility of the engine and the miserable experience that is using DromEd. (And thank god for NewDark as well!)
Think the series being dead is a lot of why, ironically enough. If you ever want to play polished new content, you'd better work your sleeves up and start figuring out how to make it, because you never will otherwise. Warcraft 3 modders are in a similar situation since, like Thief, it's an entirely dead series (we don't acknowledge Reforged just the same as not acknowledging the Thief reboot), and many of its mods are also near developer quality. I'd say another factor is just how friendly the devs are to modding though. The other commonality between these two very different games is that they were practically built from the ground up with facilitating fanmade content in mind.
I had been intrigued by the Thief games ever since I was a kid, but with this video, I was compelled to finally play them. I beat Thief: Dark Project the other day and am going through Thief 2: the Metal Age. Intend to play the whole trilogy first in order to fully appreciate this mod.
Even then you won't be able to fully appreciate the mod, because it references other FMs as often as it does the official games. Its such a delight to see how some levels in TBP are in conversation with other older FMs. For years people have been wanting a 4th Rocksbourg FM, and I would say Mission 6 (Kept Away From View ) is exactly that. Mission 8 (Jaws of Darkness) is a continuation of Into the Odd's design philosophy (itself inspired by sperry's classic Shadow of a Doubt campaign). And peppered throughout all missions in the readables there are so many nods and other references to older FMs. I would say the best parts of TBP's story and world building is exactly in these readables, and not in the way it connects to the official games.
@@Wind_Falcon Indeed, having played hundreds of fan missions before TBP, including forgotten classics from the early 2000s, and then seeing all those references was so rewarding!
The "Courage the Cowardly Dog" Katz theme playing in the background unlocked childhood memories. Haven't heard that theme in years. Great choice. Music aside, fantastic videos as always.
I think this is a very lovely way to use your platform as a big videogame reviewer. Mods often go underappreciated as far as the wider public goes, so showcasing incredible talent like these creatives to hundreds of thousands of people is a really cool thing to do. Hope these people are continually able to work on passion projects like this, the enthousiasm and skill is on clear display here.
It's good to see Thief is being kept alive with these mods that serve as stand-alone game basically. Despite it being on a 20+ year old engine I'd much prefer this than most current-day AAA games. I'll definitely give The Black Parade a play soon.
Please, please cover more mods, I know the mod spotlight series died so quickly for a reason, but I just love your mod reviews, they're very refreshing compared to everything else out there.
@@DragonMan-di9xv or triple A dont want or respects passion anymore so some games can fail the test of time which is the hardest of test unless they are in for the money
@@DragonMan-di9xv It's not that at all. It's that hiring hundreds, often thousands, of employees dilutes their ability to contribute. They need to all work on the same project now, so you can't just have one guy making inspirational kneejerk additions. Expertise is punished, and simplicity is rewarded - because *everyone* (including the people that shouldn't have been hired) needs to be able to keep up on the same project. It's why talented team leads are so important.
@@DragonMan-di9xv That's a part of it, although while I hate to sound pretentious- bigger teams really do lose a lot of the "soul" that you can feel in a lot of older games and indie games.
It's really just a given when there are so many mods being made out there, of course some are going to be exceptional. It's not like there aren't modern AAA games with great atmosphere, don't really see why there's a need to pretend it's some sort of either/or situation.
Mother of god. It's... beautiful. I loved the Thief games so much as a kid that I wanted to become a burglar when I grew up. I learned to actually pick locks off the internet, and would constantly break into locked rooms for fun. (I didn't steal anything, unless you count popsicles.) I damn near got caught a few times, but the games trained me well, and I avoided getting in serious trouble by ducking into a dark corner or side room and keeping absolutely silent, once for 15 minutes. None of the adults ever noticed me. So, yeah, I know exactly what I'm spending winter break on.
I love mods getting more coverage! Have you tried Freelancer before? Another great 2003 game that's still being worked on by several dedicated communities.
@exhausted4398 Yeah, there's a few different communities. The biggest one is Discovery which still has a big online multiplayer server, but there's also Crossfire for a single player experience. A bunch of them are on ModDB. I don't think I can put links here, but search for the video "Discovery Freelancer battle for Freeport 9" for an example of an event that happened last weekend.
Lol dude, there is a GIGANTIC mod for freelancer that turns it into proper sandbox. On top of that it adds like whole story chapter after you finish initial storyline. ITs like a proper overhaul 1.5@@exhausted4398
I just want to say BIG THANK YOU to person who add subtitles. 👏 I hate auto generated CC becasue only time when i need them is because i have bad hearing and i dont understand words sometimes. But usually AI cant understand and write them too... So i really appreciate this, thank you
Unfortunately the Thief fan community has slowly been shrinking as the years go by, even though some of the best output in terms of quality FMs has been in recent years. Though we are way past the times of 100+ fan mission releases an year like in 2006, or even 50+ in 2013.
well i know what I'm playing in September, i just rewatched all 3 of your thief videos yesterday, then suddenly you release a new thief video. what a treat, awesome video as always
THIS is the stuff I absolutely ADORE about the communities of old games. Seeing massive passion projects that take full advantage of modern hardware to make absolutely BONKERS stuff for games without changing their core identities or looks blow me away every time. If you're into Quake any and haven't already, I super recommend looking into Quake: Arcane Dimensions. It doesn't have a story like this project does but its some of THE BEST tweaks and Quake levels I've ever played. Particularly the map: Tears of the false god. Stuff like this is what makes me love games like DUSK and Amid Evil that capture these feels with all modern tech, and again projects like QAD and Black Parade that take a game and revamp it with hardware that couldn't even be dreamed of when they came out. Its so fuckin' cool.
I did not know anything about this. This is one heck of a surprise! This mod may actually make Thief into what Ive always expected from it, more than the base game ! Hearing your praise is quite something
Very excited to play it. Doing my first Vanilla Dark Project playthrough. I'm up to Haunted Cathedral, and Thief's already in my top 15 games of all time. Still have the sequels to play and enjoy, and then mods......OH YEA! HOO-RAH!
Yeah, I've been enjoying a lot of The Dark Mod meself recently and keep being amazed at how it's all free. You get amazing content, pay nothing. _And then there's the modern gaming industry who want you to pay amazing and get nothing._
one of my favorite mandalore bits is the replacement of ads with whatever gets slapped together in photoshop. thank you for averting my eyes from the horror of looking at ads
Hey. Can't remember if I've told you about this mod before. So going to say it again. There is a fantastic Doom mod called Splatterhouse 3D. It's a recreation of all the 2D Splatterhouse games and its very well done. I think you'd enjoy it.
What a treat having mods showcased by you sometimes as well! This looks like an amazing work of love and kinda made me want to play thief just do that I can get into the world just to experience this.
The one thing that always bothered me with Thief is...Why is he wearing such loud shoes? You'd think a Thief would wear something rubberized, or padded, not fancy dress shoes that clacks louder than a tap dancer.
My first thought playing Thief Gold for the first time recently was why doesn't he stick some of the moss from those arrows onto the bottom of his shoes instead
Welp, didn't know this was even a thing, I know how my next few days are being used. Thank you Mandy for once again shining light on things I'd never notice.
I thought I'd never get to re-experience Thief like it was the first time again, but Black Parade has done just that. I'm on the last mission and I almost don't want to finish it, because when I do I probably won't get to experience anything like this again. The surprise in the forbidden library makes me want to see a de-make of Thief: Deadly Shadows. Will probably never happen, but I can dream.
@@UnKnownv5 is this a genuine question or are you just trying to provoke a reaction? If genuine: A small team of highly talented fans spent 7 years making an unofficial "sequel" to a long dead series (Thief), in a genre that is rarely explored in modern games. The end result is a game that not only faithfully follows the official games in lore and canon, but also perfectly recreates the experience and elevates it with a lot of polish and refinement that even the official games lacked, all the while offering an entirely new campaign and missions to play, with new locations, characters, abilities, enemies etc. It''s like discovering your favorite game series from years ago, long abandoned by any major publisher or developer, is suddenly back and better then ever. There's a lot of nostalgia behind this but its not just that. The Thief games are foundational. So many modern games benefit from the groundwork laid by this series. But at the same time not one other game does it like Thief. Even other major stealth games don't give the same experience. Some indie games are doing a fine job emulating aspects of it, but they have their own identity and feel very different as a result. Thief is unique and unmatched. Even its "modern" (2014) reboot failed to capture what made the original series special. So this "mod" is a miracle. A full game, completely for free (if you have the original thief games) and a dream come through for many.
@@ragsnstitches Don't mind the contrarian dumbass. He was clearly trying to get high but used regular salt instead of bath salts so it's seeping out and making his butt hurt. 🤣
your thief series Is what I listen to when I do my daily excersizes (well that, and or the whole marathon collection). so i'll be adding this one to that list, keep it up.. killing it as always 💪
The Black Parade on ModDB (it won Mod of the Year!)- www.moddb.com/mods/thief-the-black-parade
Thief on GOG - gog.la/TafferMischief
TFix & Lite Links - www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134733
This was an unexpected turn for the schedule, but I would genuinely feel bad not screaming out The Black Parade exists.
I can hear your congestion in your nose from the tone of your voice, I hope you are feeling better now :)
I have an idea!
Lets celebrate Christmas and new years eve with a warhammer game review like old times😊!
P.S. Please review Rouge Trader,Darktide or total war warhammer 3 DLC!
Yeah, since Rogue Trader is done by a russian studio that jumped to cyprus to avoid embargos but still will pay russian taxes via their workers... Yeah... I won't be playing Rogue Trader anytime soon unless I pirate it.
@@arturmical I hope you don't buy any Israeli or American products too then. You know, cos you're so moral. 😌
Fallout New Vegas Mod Reviews. Both the good and bad. You know you want to
This did end up winning Mod of the Year 2023 for anyone wondering.
Absolutely justified.
This Mod is stupidly awesome. I Loved every minute of it.
I got chills watching this. It's so surreal seeing a mod you worked on covered on a channel like this. Thank you so much, Mandalore!
Congrats on the release man. Though it's kinda funny hearing your voice for the NPCs haha.
Thanks for all your hard work! It was an absolute highlight of the year.
I misread that as "Thank you so much, Markiplier!"
Dude. You and your team crushed this! Ive been a fan since of the Thief franchise for years, I'd heard about the mod through a friend and it has been a real treat. 10/10 i love it.
@Marbleman: No thank you for working on this mod!
The absolute best line from the FAQ in the docs for this custom campaign:
"Q: Are you guys fans of My Chemical Romance?
A: No. This is what happens when you think you have a cool name and don’t Google it beforehand."
uhhh context?
@@LazyBuddyBan The documentation in the mod has a frequently asked questions section. The Black Parade is also the name of an album by emo / punk rock embarrassments My Chemical Romance.
@@Interference22 i like MCR!
@@Interference22 MCR is fun :)
@@Interference22I don't like MCR but it can't be THAT bad.
This man will do absolutely anything to avoid making the Thief 4 video.
What's that?
@@MandaloreGamingmust have been the wind
@@MandaloreGaming you can run. You can even hide. But you'll never escape. Make the review, or be forever stuck in the cycles of guilt.
@@Xenomorthian IT'S QUIET.
I'd love to see a thief 4 video, analyzing why the game "failed" and what the game does right, as takeaway points for anyone who's either creating fan missions for thief games or creating a new stealth game altogether.
I can only imagine how proud someone must be who, as a creator, made a game with the technology they had available at the time. And then 25 years later, the fans of that which you have created have been compelled enough to carry forward and expand upon your work with this scale.
Kind of the ultimate reward for creating art yeah?
You make something that enthralls and inspires such interest that a quarter-century later folks are not only still talking about and engaging with your work, but building off of it in a most literal and beautiful way.
@@RomaraAhallow Absolutely. Unlike a big payday, artistic fulfilment and knowing you inspired people is the kind of reward that lasts. From the modders who make monolithic projects like this with your game as a basis, to the people who enjoyed it then and re-install it when they need to unwind or find some escapism. That's something to be incredibly proud of.
i- i guess- i guess you could say the fandom would *carry on*
A mod review ? Hell yea, always love seeing fantastic modders get some light on their work
Enderal review when?
Gonna have to go through the whole Elder Scrolls first@@louisbalfour5202
@@louisbalfour5202 YES DUDE, be so amazing if he ever decides to covers Enderal
Chronicles of Myrthana: Archolos next, actually superior game to any official Gothic game
@@Mbeluba Agreed!
Without having seen Madalore's previous videos about this saga, this review was precisely the fault of a MOD that caught me so much with the emotion that Mandalore reflects that I decided to start playing the ENTIRE Thief saga for the first time...
What an incredible decision. I finished the entire trilogy in a few months, then I finally played "The Black Parade." I completely fell in love with these games. And now I'm back here to say "thank you"
Really feeling like I'm about to do the same. Having seen the other videos, and now this...? Wow. Downloading it.
@@BAAa-tw7lo Do it! Just for context: I'm a guy more into RTS and FPS games, and I still really enjoyed Thief. Personally, I think that (because of the age of the games), the first title may have a learning curve, after that, I felt another difficult acceptance curve with Thief 3. Everything else, excellent and fun.
It was a privilege to be able to contribute to this, it's truly a landmark in the Thief community and all the new developments on display are going to be a real game changer- the same way Thief 2X was all the way back in 2005.
I’m really blown away!! Y’all did some incredible work.
Feeling foolish that this mod review was what finally tipped me into playing Thief. Huge fan of Deus Ex, System Shock, Dishonored, Prey, Bioshock etc. but always felt like Thief was just a bit too antiquated. This mod convinced me to pop in and give it a try, and made me realize that not only is Thief not a simple, feature lacking version of modern immersive sims, but that modern releases hardly even imitate its quality and vision.
You discovered hot water my friend. Welcome to the taffer club.
Funnily enough, System Shock 2 doesn't have that antiquated stigma, even though it runs on the same engine as the Thief games. And actually Thief II is made after System Shock 2.
I discovered a few years ago that there no games that play like thief. Sure Hitman comes close but has still a different focus. Usually im annoyed when levels take longer than 30minutes to complete but in Thief it's part of the atmosphere and completing a level feels so satisfying.
Thief и Deus Ex между собой вообще будут очень сильно похожи, в плане анимаций, моделей персонажа.
Я после Deus Ex попробовал Thief:2 и чувствовал себя как дома, хотя в игре куда глубже стелс, есть механики паркура, более крутой звук, а когда появились механисты со своими камерами и роботами я такой ну точно Deus Ex про средневековье😂
Единственное колоссальное отличие - построение уровней, если Deus Ex я смог пройти без подсказок с интернета, игра интуитивная в этом плане, то Thief вообще мимо если ты не внимательный, не мало уровней я там увы прошел с помощью сайта DarkFate
I think you just don't really like true stealth games, which I understand as I don't either.
Glad you came to your senses, albeit belatedly ;)
Once again, Mandy proves to be the saviour of the broken, defeated and the damned. And also signal-boosting one of the coolest things to come out of the modding scene this year.
I should really get into this after Arcane Dimensions. And also Wizordum.
So glad this channel promoted this mod! This video prompted a huge deep dive for me - I ended up playing through all three original games, plenty of FMs, including Thief 2X, Death's Cold Embrace, Seven SIsters, the Rocksbourg trilogy and Godbreaker, all in preparation for The Black Parade.
Having gone through all of that, I genuinely would recommend people at least play the first two games all the way through _before_ playing TBP.
This campaign is an absolute, genuine masterpiece of Thief level design and atmosphere, with all the intricacies you could ever hope for in this gameplay style present, mastered and sharpened to the highest degree. As a result of all this indulgent excellence, however, I think any fresh-faced newcomer would be utterly overwhelmed, confused and frustrated by the sheer scale and complexity of it all.
That said, anyone even _remotely_ interested should absolutely check it out, just be aware that due diligence really is a requirement.
Where is my chemical romance? I don’t see him
Always MY chemical romance. What about OUR chemical romance?
It seems that in your anger... You killed them.
@@skwoogleBabe please stop saying dumb things
When I was a young boy
@@bobbyjollins8091 my father
11:23 What are you so frightened of? Come to me...
It was seriously a privilege to have gotten to do voicework and later betatest this beast. I will forever be in awe of the dedication and craft of the team. Hope you enjoyed my contribution, and may The City never die!
"Oh, he'll come! He'll come ALL OVER THE CITY!!!"
You did the statuates voice? Dude i still have nightmares with that entity, solid work!
Daily reminder that everyone should check out The Dark Mod. It's an standalone total conversion of Doom 3 that's Thief but legally distinct, and it has an active community of Thief veterans that make missions throughout the year. For a free fan game, it's an impressive testament of how passionate the Thief modding community is even when the franchise is dead.
Another vote of confidence for The Dark Mod. It's provided some of the best experiences of this genre of stealth, even when compared to all official efforts (indie or AAA).
Dark Mods haneling of sound is terrible, which is the main feature of Thief, there are better alternatives.
Fans can be so amazing. This looks like official content.
@@UnKnownv5
You should really cut back on your 🧂intake. It's overflowing your system and seeping out.
@@UnKnownv5 Wow, didn't know there were such great and extensive mods created in the 2000s! Could you point me to any of such wonderful works?
@@LordDragox412 Look it up yourself...
@@SyndicateOperative I tried, but there are just so many to chose from! I would love to hear which ones are your favorite and most worth checking out!
@@UnKnownv5 it's by far the best Thief campaign to date. It has its own music, sound, textures, models, animations, etc, and its very visually appealling. No idea what this comment is on about lol
on that note, there's a great mod for Gothic 2.
It's called "The Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos" and it's a full campaign, I think you'd really enjoy it!
I totally back this up!
@@Arxfatal1 It was like reliving the initial playthrough of Gothic, only without the magic "I'd wish I could forget knowing this so I can experience it again" spell, loved it
Would love to play it... but only if it doesn't adhere too much with Gothic III, which I hate. At least Thief: Deadly Shadows has redemption value to begin so to make me want to enjoy The Black Parade.
@@michaelandreipalon359 it's like a true Gothic 1 & 2 successor, nothing like Gothic 3.
So I'd say go for it, it's free as long as you have Gothic 2 after all :)
@@TheLumberjack1987 thanks! I'm putting it on my list!
Every time Thief content reaches broad audience it feels like something to celebrate
Every time i see a popular person talking about thief, i feel heard. Civvie and mandalore have both made great videos on it. I can only wish that Thief reaches some major breaking point in gaming media. There can never, ever ever be too much thief in my life.
i've been preaching about this game to anyone vaguely interested since it came out i think. definition of underrated
@@JumalaPlays Shame Civvie fanbase are not interested in Imsim.
Blessed be the mod makers. I salute you all for your community service. If only you could create as much as you wish. Hopefully the artists wont starve some day.
Appreciate your community service to Mandalore. Hope ya do more mod reviews. Whichever game you prefer, its your channel after all. These people deserve recognition for what they do.
This reminds me of how I felt when I first played Enderal for Skyrim. From the music to world building and lore I kept forgetting that it wasn't a separate, real game but a mod.
Definitely will give this one a try, thanks!
"I already have a decent folder of unsettling horses"
Mandalore, the ranch days are behind you. No more chemical burn farts for you to deal with
I loved working on this and it makes me super happy to know that some people get just as much enjoyment out of it while plaiying it.
I love the thief video series, the game is two decades old but it is one of the most creative and fun retro games you can play.
It is one of the most creative and fun GAMES you can play, period.
I still play it regularly now
I hope the mod sparks a new wave of interest in the games and setting.
Damn, this mod looks amazing! It fills my heart knowing there's a dedicated group of old Thief fans like myself making love letters to this legendary trilogy. The scale of the maps is unreal and I wanna get lost in them snagging loot. Can't wait to play this!
i am loving black parade so much. it's incredible that these guys did all this for free
*INHALE*
WHEN I WAS, A YOUNG BOY, MY FATHER
TOOK ME INTO THE CITY, TO SEE A MARCHING BAND
Darn you, now I gotta go listen to it
@@Reldonator HE SAID SON WHEN
YOU GROW UP
WILL YOU BE
THE SAVIOR OF THE BROKEN
THE BEATEN AND THE DAMNED
I always love to see Thief Fan Missions represented, there are a ton of extremely high quality levels, I'm like 3 levels into this one and it's fantastic, always love to see Lady Rowena represented after her passing, she was a sublime map maker
I went through all of high-school watching your videos. Now I’m going through all of college watching your videos.
Thank you for all the content you make 🎉
Bro I have a friend who literally did the same thing!
it means so much to me that this is getting as much support as it is, just seeing thief have this kind of life and attention again feels amazing
The production value of this mod looks astonishing as well as art direction. I will replay first two games just to understand this one.
This mod is terrifying on how much there is in just a single level.
you know Soulforge takes forever to finish? This mod does that for all missions and it's amazing for it
I was given the honor of betatesting this absolute behemoth, and all I can say to my fellow Thief fans is: go play it if you want to experience Thief as if it was the first time
Just wanna say, I watched a few minutes of your video on Stasis: Bone Totem and decided to start playing it. I'm a COD kiddy and this is my first true adventure game, and boy am I enjoying this. Thanks for talking about it I wouldn't have given it a shot otherwise.
You know smth is gonna be good when Mandalore resurrects the Mod Spotlight series to talk about it.
Seriously though would love to see you cover more mods on games.
On Twitter he indicated that we'll certainly be getting more mod coverage.
thank you so much for showing the mod off and choosing not so spoil a single thing. i cant wait to load up dark parade today and dive back into modded thief
Love the fact that every good thief game video presented in this channel kicks in with assassins's track. Even though i loved the third installment for introducing me to the series anyway. Love your work.
I'm currently at Mission 5 and maybe it's because I had the brilliant idea of playing it at night, but I was soooo on edge throughout the whole thing. Also I love a little moment I had during Mission 4, the "Bonehoard" one described in the video: while exploring the tomb I kept thinking: "The layout here strangely reminds me more of Dark Souls catacombs than the Bonehoard" and lo and behold... someone in the dev team probably thought the same thing.
I see what you mean, I kept forgetting this was a mod during the video and just assumed this was another of the series. There are plenty of mods that can add more to your game, but to get a mod that is its own game is such an amazing feat. Incredible work and hats off to the mod team!
I just played the first mission and it was amazing! Huge props to the team who put this together, it's incredible
10:17 You're not wrong. My favorite realization when going through the 2nd level is that it's the same manor where the Constantine hiring Garrett cutscene takes place in the first game. In the sitting room on the second floor, you can find that weird clock on the fireplace and the hanging man window above it (seen in 9:20). Also, in a hidden cellar behind the bar, you can find the plant wine that Constantine offers Garret as well. While references aren't what make something great, the way Black Parade put this one in without any fanfare made it so cool to discover.
This makes sense to me and loved seeing those details! Always wondered why Garrett would walk into the same house he just robbed to meet with his commissioner - it never occurred to me Constantine invited him to another house!
Would come home from school, block up my window to deny all light and dive into the world of Garret. My fav PC game of all time. The dark project. Even my name Dark Genix was birthed from this game.
I was just watching your Thief videos the other day. Never played the games but love your breakdowns of them.
I’m blown away by the texture quality. How there’s a high level of detail while still following the fidelity of the 90s and early 2000s eras of 1st-person PC gaming has my jaw dropped and my wig flying out the window.
I don’t own any high-graphical-fidelity games that have released after 2016 due to aging hardware, so when amazing “old guard” communities for my favorite games: Thief, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines, Rome Total War 2005, and Daggerfall Unity are still working on and publish content, I get so, SO overjoyed!!!
This really reminds me of my childhood
When my father used to take me into the city to see a marching band
Love the Katz music from Courage in the background
I remember when Thief: The Dark Project released the downloadable demo in 90's. My brother and I downloaded the 55MB demo and had my dad's HP Pentium + AOL dial up going while we went to Church. Ah the days...
Love your videos about mods. Gives the community a chance to shine.
25 years of playing as Garrett the master thief, cheers to another 25 years! The best stealth first-person PC game ever made.🙌
Great video, I am so happy you reviewed a thief mod. I hope you review Thief 2x too one day!
I've never even played Thief, but i love seeing projects like this. Just a bunch of dedicated fans pooling their resources to contribute to something they genuinely love. Honestly, there are alot of developers that could take a lesson from this. Congrats to all those who worked on this mod.
The Thief fan mission community has one of the absolute highest standards of any modding/fan mission community out there. It's absolutely crazy what some of them put out. I love Thief 1 and 2 so much and I love the mission design in those games, but the modders have improved SO MUCH on what Looking Glass put out over 2 decades ago. It's genuinely incredible. It reminds me a lot of the people behind Tamriel Rebuilt are doing. They're building on the foundations laid by the original developers, but have refined the art so, so much. And this is all on top of the extreme fragility of the engine and the miserable experience that is using DromEd. (And thank god for NewDark as well!)
Think the series being dead is a lot of why, ironically enough. If you ever want to play polished new content, you'd better work your sleeves up and start figuring out how to make it, because you never will otherwise. Warcraft 3 modders are in a similar situation since, like Thief, it's an entirely dead series (we don't acknowledge Reforged just the same as not acknowledging the Thief reboot), and many of its mods are also near developer quality.
I'd say another factor is just how friendly the devs are to modding though. The other commonality between these two very different games is that they were practically built from the ground up with facilitating fanmade content in mind.
Just completed it and...just wow. What a goddam rollercoaster. Every mission is an universe.
I had been intrigued by the Thief games ever since I was a kid, but with this video, I was compelled to finally play them. I beat Thief: Dark Project the other day and am going through Thief 2: the Metal Age. Intend to play the whole trilogy first in order to fully appreciate this mod.
Even then you won't be able to fully appreciate the mod, because it references other FMs as often as it does the official games. Its such a delight to see how some levels in TBP are in conversation with other older FMs. For years people have been wanting a 4th Rocksbourg FM, and I would say Mission 6 (Kept Away From View ) is exactly that. Mission 8 (Jaws of Darkness) is a continuation of Into the Odd's design philosophy (itself inspired by sperry's classic Shadow of a Doubt campaign). And peppered throughout all missions in the readables there are so many nods and other references to older FMs. I would say the best parts of TBP's story and world building is exactly in these readables, and not in the way it connects to the official games.
@@Wind_Falcon Indeed, having played hundreds of fan missions before TBP, including forgotten classics from the early 2000s, and then seeing all those references was so rewarding!
The "Courage the Cowardly Dog" Katz theme playing in the background unlocked childhood memories. Haven't heard that theme in years. Great choice. Music aside, fantastic videos as always.
I think this is a very lovely way to use your platform as a big videogame reviewer. Mods often go underappreciated as far as the wider public goes, so showcasing incredible talent like these creatives to hundreds of thousands of people is a really cool thing to do. Hope these people are continually able to work on passion projects like this, the enthousiasm and skill is on clear display here.
It's good to see Thief is being kept alive with these mods that serve as stand-alone game basically. Despite it being on a 20+ year old engine I'd much prefer this than most current-day AAA games. I'll definitely give The Black Parade a play soon.
Finally got around to installing it. Have played 5 minutes and already 10/10 happy with it.
Please, please cover more mods, I know the mod spotlight series died so quickly for a reason, but I just love your mod reviews, they're very refreshing compared to everything else out there.
What was the reason ? I'm curious
We are getting every piece of gold with this one🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Glad you made a video on this, they deserve all the attention they can get!
This mod looks delightful! I hope the team is quite proud of their hard work and dedication! Regardless I know what I’ll be doing tonight 😂
What the fuck, I was rewatching your entire thief series just last night…
imagine an old game with modern mod having more atmosphere then triple A games
@@DragonMan-di9xv or triple A dont want or respects passion anymore so some games can fail the test of time which is the hardest of test unless they are in for the money
@@DragonMan-di9xv It's not that at all. It's that hiring hundreds, often thousands, of employees dilutes their ability to contribute. They need to all work on the same project now, so you can't just have one guy making inspirational kneejerk additions. Expertise is punished, and simplicity is rewarded - because *everyone* (including the people that shouldn't have been hired) needs to be able to keep up on the same project.
It's why talented team leads are so important.
@@UnKnownv5 Shut up.
@@DragonMan-di9xv That's a part of it, although while I hate to sound pretentious- bigger teams really do lose a lot of the "soul" that you can feel in a lot of older games and indie games.
It's really just a given when there are so many mods being made out there, of course some are going to be exceptional. It's not like there aren't modern AAA games with great atmosphere, don't really see why there's a need to pretend it's some sort of either/or situation.
This review was out fast! The mod looks awesome, everytime i replay the original trilogy, i alway play T2X as well. Looks like this one's a winner too
Mother of god. It's... beautiful. I loved the Thief games so much as a kid that I wanted to become a burglar when I grew up. I learned to actually pick locks off the internet, and would constantly break into locked rooms for fun. (I didn't steal anything, unless you count popsicles.) I damn near got caught a few times, but the games trained me well, and I avoided getting in serious trouble by ducking into a dark corner or side room and keeping absolutely silent, once for 15 minutes. None of the adults ever noticed me. So, yeah, I know exactly what I'm spending winter break on.
They for sure knew you were there lol at least once
I love mods getting more coverage! Have you tried Freelancer before? Another great 2003 game that's still being worked on by several dedicated communities.
There's a modding community for freelancer?
I have but it's been years since I've caught up with the mods especially. I think the last one I played was /v/lancer.
@exhausted4398 Yeah, there's a few different communities. The biggest one is Discovery which still has a big online multiplayer server, but there's also Crossfire for a single player experience. A bunch of them are on ModDB. I don't think I can put links here, but search for the video "Discovery Freelancer battle for Freeport 9" for an example of an event that happened last weekend.
Good enough game, but being abandonware hurts it so badly.
Lol dude, there is a GIGANTIC mod for freelancer that turns it into proper sandbox. On top of that it adds like whole story chapter after you finish initial storyline. ITs like a proper overhaul 1.5@@exhausted4398
Damn I've been playing this mod, too. Probably some of the best if not the best Thief maps I've ever seen.
I just want to say BIG THANK YOU to person who add subtitles. 👏
I hate auto generated CC becasue only time when i need them is because i have bad hearing and i dont understand words sometimes. But usually AI cant understand and write them too... So i really appreciate this, thank you
Thief fanmissions are a culture all their own. I love that communities like this can grow.
Unfortunately the Thief fan community has slowly been shrinking as the years go by, even though some of the best output in terms of quality FMs has been in recent years. Though we are way past the times of 100+ fan mission releases an year like in 2006, or even 50+ in 2013.
well i know what I'm playing in September, i just rewatched all 3 of your thief videos yesterday, then suddenly you release a new thief video. what a treat, awesome video as always
THIS is the stuff I absolutely ADORE about the communities of old games. Seeing massive passion projects that take full advantage of modern hardware to make absolutely BONKERS stuff for games without changing their core identities or looks blow me away every time. If you're into Quake any and haven't already, I super recommend looking into Quake: Arcane Dimensions. It doesn't have a story like this project does but its some of THE BEST tweaks and Quake levels I've ever played. Particularly the map: Tears of the false god. Stuff like this is what makes me love games like DUSK and Amid Evil that capture these feels with all modern tech, and again projects like QAD and Black Parade that take a game and revamp it with hardware that couldn't even be dreamed of when they came out. Its so fuckin' cool.
Alkaline for quake is pretty neat as well.
Or Death Wish for Blood!
I did not know anything about this. This is one heck of a surprise!
This mod may actually make Thief into what Ive always expected from it, more than the base game !
Hearing your praise is quite something
Playing it now!
Welcome to the Black Parade
Thank you so much for this, looks like my Christmas is sorted .. and its free lol, Im actually happy to donate for this.
When I was... a young boy... my father... took me into the city... to rob some rich scumbags.
Very excited to play it. Doing my first Vanilla Dark Project playthrough. I'm up to Haunted Cathedral, and Thief's already in my top 15 games of all time. Still have the sequels to play and enjoy, and then mods......OH YEA! HOO-RAH!
A franchise of games and a healthy thriving modding community so good it almost makes you glad the series ended at Thief 3
Yeah, I've been enjoying a lot of The Dark Mod meself recently and keep being amazed at how it's all free.
You get amazing content, pay nothing.
_And then there's the modern gaming industry who want you to pay amazing and get nothing._
Katz’s theme fits so well with Thief. Excellent choice of backing music.
When I was
A young thief
Garret
Took me intooooo
The City
one of my favorite mandalore bits is the replacement of ads with whatever gets slapped together in photoshop. thank you for averting my eyes from the horror of looking at ads
Holy crap this looks insane!
The sound design is absurdly good!
These guys understand that Thief is the best survival horror game. 💚
Rewatched all your theif videos last night and I get this treat today. Couldn't be happier
And yet again, the Thief community proves they are some of the most dedicated fans out there
Excellent review, thanks so much for taking this so in depth.
Man this mod looks to be on the same level as Archolos was for Gothic, very hyped.
For decades I carefully avoided playing Thief games, but now you sold it to me
Hey. Can't remember if I've told you about this mod before. So going to say it again. There is a fantastic Doom mod called Splatterhouse 3D. It's a recreation of all the 2D Splatterhouse games and its very well done. I think you'd enjoy it.
I’ve literally just yesterday finished rewatching your Thief reviews, what a pleasant surprise
A free expansion to one of my favorite games of all time, coming along with high praise from you? I wish I had the time. Maybe next year...
I love the still paintings in Thief. They've always been top-notch. It's cool they managed to keep the art style on track.
Mandy is an MCR fan confirmed
Glad this video got made! I was afraid no one would talk about this awesome mod!
Game Awards 2023 are gonna miss this absolute gem
Whoa ❤ another one already 😊
Looking forward to this over a nice brew later.
Hope you are well Mandy 😊
Awesomeness! I love watching your thief reviews! Happy holidays to you and yours 😊
What a treat having mods showcased by you sometimes as well! This looks like an amazing work of love and kinda made me want to play thief just do that I can get into the world just to experience this.
The one thing that always bothered me with Thief is...Why is he wearing such loud shoes?
You'd think a Thief would wear something rubberized, or padded, not fancy dress shoes that clacks louder than a tap dancer.
Black Parade actually partially addresses this, as it rebalances some of the surface walking sounds.
My first thought playing Thief Gold for the first time recently was why doesn't he stick some of the moss from those arrows onto the bottom of his shoes instead
He wants a challenge
Welp, didn't know this was even a thing, I know how my next few days are being used. Thank you Mandy for once again shining light on things I'd never notice.
I thought I'd never get to re-experience Thief like it was the first time again, but Black Parade has done just that. I'm on the last mission and I almost don't want to finish it, because when I do I probably won't get to experience anything like this again.
The surprise in the forbidden library makes me want to see a de-make of Thief: Deadly Shadows. Will probably never happen, but I can dream.
@@UnKnownv5 is this a genuine question or are you just trying to provoke a reaction?
If genuine: A small team of highly talented fans spent 7 years making an unofficial "sequel" to a long dead series (Thief), in a genre that is rarely explored in modern games. The end result is a game that not only faithfully follows the official games in lore and canon, but also perfectly recreates the experience and elevates it with a lot of polish and refinement that even the official games lacked, all the while offering an entirely new campaign and missions to play, with new locations, characters, abilities, enemies etc.
It''s like discovering your favorite game series from years ago, long abandoned by any major publisher or developer, is suddenly back and better then ever.
There's a lot of nostalgia behind this but its not just that. The Thief games are foundational. So many modern games benefit from the groundwork laid by this series. But at the same time not one other game does it like Thief. Even other major stealth games don't give the same experience. Some indie games are doing a fine job emulating aspects of it, but they have their own identity and feel very different as a result.
Thief is unique and unmatched. Even its "modern" (2014) reboot failed to capture what made the original series special. So this "mod" is a miracle. A full game, completely for free (if you have the original thief games) and a dream come through for many.
@@UnKnownv5 Man it must suck to be you.
@@ragsnstitches
Don't mind the contrarian dumbass.
He was clearly trying to get high but used regular salt instead of bath salts so it's seeping out and making his butt hurt. 🤣
@@UnKnownv5 lol why did you reply to the same comment twice after a couple hours
your thief series Is what I listen to when I do my daily excersizes (well that, and or the whole marathon collection). so i'll be adding this one to that list, keep it up.. killing it as always 💪