War Front: Turning Point Review
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- War Front Turning Point is an alternate history World War 2 RTS game where the Germans have mechs, the Allies have forcefields, and the Soviet Union has mastered ABV necromancy.
Video artwork by @sneksucks
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00:00 - Intro
00:15 - Background
02:20 - Game Premise
05:02 - Visuals
09:40 - Music & Sound Design
12:08 - Gameplay Mechanics
24:20 - The Campaigns (Story)
42:46 - Conclusions
43:25 - Credits
44:34 - I Need a Big Hans
#gaming #games #rts - Ігри
War Front Turning Point currently looks to be abandonware.
THE LIST - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_K3ziSxT9zcUUGCddS4sF1uNJTWHSbOwB1CQX2Rx4Uo
When the box asked, "What if World War Two happened THIS way?", read it in the voice of your friend's older stoner brother in high school instead of a voice of authority.
Can i buy you a Burger ?
25:38 Hungarian wine?????
thats new..
37:10 the wine makes sense now...
Magic wizard knight has gifted us sekret knowledge, this rivals Merlin’s wisdom
If your doing RTS titles do age of mythology. Always a fun time.
Hitler getting assassinated and it not being elaborated on at all has the same energy as ‘Somehow Palpatine returned.’
Somehow Palpatine disappeared
"Somehow Hitler died" its so anticlimactic xD
No one's ever really gone...
I mean, to be serious, the arch-tyrant survived like five attempts by sheer luck. We’re talking “had to go to the bathroom and the bomb shot the stable through the ceiling above his head” level loony toons nonsense.
The point is that the devs explicitly did not want the player to go up against Hitler, while at the same time giving an alibi for Nazis teaming up with allies in the form of the "German resistance" to the "nameless chancellor" who is somehow worse than Hitler.
Who knew that poor Wehrmacht was so conflicted about serving the Nazis? Good thing that the "enemy on the eastern front was clear". I guess it is OK to burn down the Byelorussian and Ukrainian countryside. BABES!
Knowing this game is some Hungarian's fever dream about the "Germans" teaming up with the Allies to kill Soviets makes a lot of sense
"we are going to fight the russians for all the sweet honey babies we will get"
Its like the plot was written by the world's youngest WW2 dork.
@@BIacklce One question that bothers me in this alternate world. What were the Japanese doing in this universe's version of the Pacific war. Is the Empire of Japan a thing in this Universe or what cause its WW2, half the time i expect a Red Alert 3 scenario to play out and we get a Empire of the Rising Sun situation in the process.
@@silentecho92able they are kissing all the sweet baby girls from china, the phillipines, korea, indochina, etc they brought into the empire.
Ah, of course it's the damn Hungarians again....This game deeply reminded me of Codename Panzers, another Hungarian-made WW2 RTS from the 2000s that's eerily similar to this one both graphically and in some gameplay aspects (Like the repair trucks flinging steel plates at the tanks to repair them, the animations are downright identical.)
Hoping Mandalore will cover those games together with their earlier product, S.W.I.N.E, which got a little more popular in the grand scheme of things.
Pure cringe
"the ice bomb immobilizes all buildings"
truly the greatest achievement in military technology
The Soviets have invented upgraded Frost Wyrms from the Undead in Warcraft 3
I think I get what he meant, but it's much funnier to phrase it the weird way.
Hungarian here: I actually read an interview with the creator of this game. The story was supposed to start off with the allies assassinating Hitler. This angered the nazis so they shifted their focus to the west and invaded britain
Now I wonder if it was going to be Lynch who did it.
@@MandaloreGaming with his grenade launcher no less. The perfect weapon for every assassin with a shred of professionalism.
@@rikusschulze6249 He kicks the door in, says a one-liner and BOOM. Hitler is dead. And that's how the game opens.
I feel like it's more likely that with Hitler being assassinated, their army was free to not take the all-or-nothing, badly favored risk of trying to invade Russia with resources they didn't have while they were still fighting on the Western front. They wouldn't be angered by the assassination; the Nazis were already mad at Hitler for going after Stalingrad, that's why there were so many assassination attempts from within his own military elite.
Why did it need to be reported by a Hungarian though? 🤔
"The Vodka-necromancers can strike at any time" Best out of context line ever!
And it ain’t too shabby in-context either, lol.
When did CD-Projekt Red turn evil?
Because everyone knows that Russians can do the impossible with the power of Vodka.
USA anti-Soviet propaganda in a nutshell.
"What's so funny, babe?"
"War!"
Fantastic
She's literally a Hellsing OVA character
I honestly thought there’d be an “it never changes,” but nope, apparently not
@@thosebloodybadgers8499 Man, I hate that anime, It tries too hard to be deep and cool.
@@chrisjfhelep5095 Hellsing OVA is one of those things I wouldn't describe as "tryhard deep" myself lol
Like, the main character is this constantly grinning vampire with big freakin guns and then there's a police woman with a giant cannon and a Catholic with spikes screaming "AMEN!" at the top of his lungs, then the main character gets transformed into a little girl and beats another kid up but not before there's an all-out war between the Vatican and Nazi vampires in London. And, of course, who could forget about catboy Schrodinger and his constant deaths.
It's extremely silly and quite self-aware, despite some emotional moments particularly at the end.
Tryhard cool, though? Oh yeah, it tries really goddamn hard to be cool
I find it charming myself but it's definitely tacky, pretty distasteful and heavily subjective
@@thosebloodybadgers8499 My problem is that the anime sometimes takes itself too serious despite all the crazy and silly things that happen. I like over the tops stories but a balance is necesary to not fall into categories like "too dumb" or "try hard". A good example could be Mad Max: Fury Road.
I can't get over Nadia's design, it's like someone 's mom decided to cosplay as JC Denton
What's she like?
@@madcat789blue lab coat, chronicles of riddick glasses, red hair
@@sirpendelton5710 Woof.
Holy crap, that legitimately made me LOL for a solid minute.
Now I'm imagining her being 100% black. It's a powerful image, even though she'd still need to watch out for Sandra's friend.
Him just casually carrying around a grenade launcher as a sidearm is the funniest shit
The important question is: Is it still faster than reloading? Lol
It's even funnier with the fact. That's not a 40s grenade launcher
@@enclave9497ikr. It's an M79 Thumper, used in Vietnam xD
"I did not edit this part" - that's always a good sign.
He only edited in screams.
that always gets me hyped
@@R3GARnator once it stops saying that at the top of the screen
Oh god, an entire unit-type staffed by forklift certified Germans.
The horror.
Better pray one of them isn't named Klaus, might end up losing your head...
@@evinbraleyGermans have weaponized Klaus. Total world domination is now on the table.
You think they'll, uh, 🎶TRY TO KILL ME WITH A FORKLIFT🎶
If WPD has told me anything, the forklift is a weapon of mass destruction.
- Adûnâi
Forklifts can easily destroy humanity and were considered by the Amerikans during their inspection of Iraq in 2003 as proof of WMD programs. The horror
"The German resistance offers everything: A noble cause, a clear enemy, and last but not least: BABES." I didn't know I needed to hear this line in 2024 but now my life is complete.
Its just taking off the charm of the lynch russian woman romance thats cheesy pulpy, and is made less unique
BAYYYPS.
Stalin really had a Haze moment, "The whole damn world is my enemy."
To be fair, historically he was like that, and his paranoia was growing stronger and stronger with every passing year.
@@Salantor That's true. Though, if he were more like Haze, he wouldn't have tolerated Beria.
@@ValeBridges If he were more like Haze he would have switched his advisors like every year, even during the war.
@@Salantor Is it paranoia when the entire world is actually your enemy?
@@twerkingbollocks6661 Depends if the "actually" part is true or not. In Stalin's case? Not really.
I don't know but as a Pole, the fragment where the German resistance guy says they get a clear enemy and the road sign says "Warszawa" killed me.
To a fascist mind, the war with western allies was a regretable and tragic misunderstanding, while murdering tens of millions of people in Eastern Europe is ok.
I love the dirt road surrounded by wooden buildings, peak average small town in Poland. All that's missing is a Dino/Biedronka around the corner.
sometimes germans just gotta attack there cooler neighbors it seems
Ay nice pfp
They were gonna have a froggy store but it was cut for being too overt
I love the idea that the design of this was a big struggle between the WW2 fanatic and the guy who loved red alert 2
Tho when to think about it, only pure fantasy units are mechwalkers, jetpack infantry, forcefield truck, ice tank and Ice bommer. All other units have at least /some/ grounding in reality.
@@ComissarYarrick there are the sonic tanks and eathquake bombs too.
@@ScrumChum Touché on sonic tanks, but for eathquake bomb, Brits developed and used 10.000 kg ap bomb that was called exactly that.
@@ScrumChum
All british tanks deal sonic damage, have you heard the way they speak?
seeing the nazi and the allies drive together with heroic music as it centers on the third rich banner was wild. Had my suspecion and was not even suprised when when mandalore said it was hungarien
Seriously what the fuck was/is going on with Hungary?
@@CollinMcLean Trianon and its mental effects has been a disaster for the Hungarian mind
dunno maybe they hated foreign agents trying to dismantle and destroy their faith and culture by force for decades or something
@@CollinMcLeanWeird how a group of people doesn’t subscribe to the American empire’s view of history.
@@boblately5402 Before you go further down this line of argument please understand you're siding with the Nazis in a denouncement of American imperialism. Like you understand the contradiction here?
When he starts explaining the German faction at 18:05 the background music is Age of Empires 2: Definitive Edition's theme for the Huns. Very subtle joke Mandy, I love it.
“See a power armor soldier die the second worst death next to the Animatrix”
I haven’t watched that in decades and I instantly heard the sounds of “Oh god help me!” and flesh peeling in my brain…
Thank you for reminding me of exact moment he was referring
I remember how that part (Second Renaissance part two) scared me shitless so I couldn't sleep that night. Damn.
The animatrix seems like a kind of noided movie despite its flaws, I wish people would talk about it more
Back to therapy I go. I spent most of my adult life trying to forget that scene
That one episode is just pure gore pr0nz for edgy assholes.
When Evil Russian lady showed up I was on my knees PRAYING that she’d turn out to be an alien or some shit. Only way to make it weirder.
My first thought was "demons?" my second was "aliens?" I was waiting for a twist where some fourth faction would appear causing the allies, axis, and soviet union to join up to defeat them. I was thinking no way would any game (that isn't some 4chan nonsense) ever show the nazi's working with the allies while still having swastika flags (at least change them to the pre reich flag). But apparently Hungary has some weird ideas that I was not familiar with.
@@adrianoippolito1999 You see, Russia once drowned Hungarian uprising against Austria in blood (by request from Austrian emperor who is relative of Russian emperor and cant do it himself). Since then (two centuries or so) Hungarians have some funny 4chan ideas.
"No time or budget to make soviet campaign"
I think no intention.
I envisioned there would have been an outline for one and it would have been the most evil RTS campaign ever printed to disc.
@@MandaloreGaming how many war crimes can be fitted in one mission.
Put Culling of Stratholme to shame.
@@MandaloreGamingMission 5 of Empire Earth's Russian campaign.
@@stefancristi2493 Okay, this tracks
The Mark Felton music popping in was such a good moment, along with the insane Hyperborea route in TNO after you mentioned "realistic" alt-history. Your editing is top-notch.
I burst out laughing
Legit made me laugh when I heard that.
There's nothing quite like the 4:02 running gag of the Home Alone electrification scream. I love them every time
Aye, it's Mandalore's version of the Wilhelm Scream. Don't ever let it stop XD
It’s the reason I subscribed.
It's definitely one of my favorite instances of it too.
that's what the scream is from? never watched that movie, spent ages wondering where he got it. glad to know.
I uploaded all the "Behind the scenes" DVD extras content about the game, if you are insterested. The development team was hungarian and they added a second bonus DVD for the game then. The title is: "War Front: Turning Point DVD Extras / Bónusz tartalom". The team is speaking hungarian but there is english subtitle.
That it was developed by a Hungarian studio puts a lot of things into perspective for me personally
Nice! Appreciate the dedication to preserving content from games!
3 whole hours!
That explains the wine at 25:38
Cserszegi fűszeres (common, cheap spiced wine) from Szentjakabhegyi (Saint Jacob hill) rozsdás dűlő (rusty slope)
@@mememetal6631 Also the picture of the Esztergom Basilica in the same scene
Imagine if they made a Soviet campaign with Naadia and start if off with saying something like "Her service to her country gets her many things, glory, honor, and of course.. studs" like every hero in this game is a lascivicous airhead.
HUNKS
No it should be babes too to stick with the theme. This universe only has a single sexuality and it is babesexual.
The world has 2 genders: himbos and bimbos
That “Down viss the chancellor- arrgh” but legit made me laugh out loud.
Same Holy shit X'D
0:29 TNO as a ''plosible'', ''highly reserched'' alt history senario. Not even a minute in and there is a great joke.
Hyperborea is an insane idea but there's probably someone who could make a cool RPG out of it.
@@MandaloreGaming I'd kill for an actual game covering the slave revolts across Europe.
@@MandaloreGamingthis reference is greatly pleasing and nothing will top it
BRAINROT NOOOOoooo
@@MandaloreGamingcan you review TNO?
"If I wanted to play compelling WW2 stories I could play a bunch of HOI4 mods, but if you do that too long you might end up wearing Hugo Boss or Violent Vixen by the end of the year"
Lmaoooo
You stopped before the funny part.
Violent vixen?
So thats why i am obsessed with buying a hugo boss black military coat. i blame it on TNO tbh
I get Hugo Boss being the nazi guy's clothing brand but what about Violent Vixen?
@@HotBlasterBot Maybe it's a joke about how many trans girls there are in the HOI4 fanbase? That's a joke I've heard repeated before, that Hearts of Iron IV fans are either neonazis or trans. Otherwise idk either.
The 'ol "shopping by the box cover" was how I ended up getting Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends and Impossible Creatures
+1 to Impossible Creatures, still really sad I passed up on Rise of Legends
Kinda sad that Rise of Legends is currently abandonware instead of getting any support.
Impossible Creatures was the GOAT, and Shark/Lobsters are still the best hybrid.
- What's so funny, babe?
- War.
> completely batshit
> shows Russian alternate history fiction
Best example one could ever find.
I am actually interested if this garbage got translated? If not, how did mandalore found out about it? This specific kind of crappy literature (and these particular book covers) is a big meme in russian-speaking internet, but seemed too niche to be recognizable outside of it
we call it "Isekai of the Motherland" (Отечественный исекай)
@@Old_goose929 I've seen some short snippets translated and funny moments recounted by people who've read those books on couple of forums. I think Spacebattles was one of the forums for example but don't really remember for sure, it's been a while.
that is absolutely hilarious. Also to the person above, mandlore has visited russia multiple times and has a eastern eroupean house mate. He doesn't talk as much about it since ukraine.@@Pendiumful
@@Old_goose929 I didn't find any translations of попаданцы fiction into English, so I assume he learned it from some article talking about this phenomenon.
I could feel the "Euro" nature of this game from the first scenes of gameplay, then the random bottle of Hungarian "Cserszegi Fűszeres" wine shows up in a cutscene front and center and that confirmed my suspicions
I also had to double back and check on that label.
Like, Google couldn't find any Szentjakabhegy, but we do have a "Jakab-Hegy"....but it is unrelated to the wine.
Not to mention... according to the wiki... this type of wine was initially created in 1960... so why the 1936?
And its origin is on Cserszegtomaj. Not Jakab-hegy. Which is half a country away.
This is frankenstein's euro timespace paradox wine.
@@Javlin95 So you are looking for historical authenticity in an easter egg? :)
@@Kokuyous3ki an authentic easter egg counts double points!
Especially since this was developed by a hungarian team, too.
HUNGARY MENTIONED!!!!!
A világra mért második legnagyobb csapása Magyarországnak, Jimmy után :)
"When they can't die and live under your real first floor"
Being a MandaloreGaming fan feels more and more like being the protagonist of a Lovecraft novel every new video
This game has the kind of tone where, after that final cutscene, you almost expect it to cut to a shadowy figure in a dark, smoky room, listening to the news about the end of the war, smugly saying it's all according to plan, and laughing.
20:10
Games Workshops early design dokuments to give Imperial Guard its own Nemesis Dreadknight
You joke, but in first edition/Rogue Trader dreadnoughts were just super power armor that a pilot could get in and out of, as was available to both Space Marines and Imperial Guard.
I mean, basic Space Marines got their own Not-Dreadknight, Sororitas also have a Not-Dreadknight armor suit *and* the Penitent Engine, for all we know Guardsmen are next in line for a Deathtrap Armored Baby Carrier.
"Some day, Daddy, I will be as big a Space Marine as you!"
I just love the absurdity of the Maus - The *_Maus_* - being a frontline unit. For the uninitiated, the tank weighed almost 200 tons and was equipped with a main 128mm cannon with a *_co-axial_* 75mm, couldn't cross any cobblestone bridge in Europe, _and_ would have been the rough equivalent of filet mignon for allied artillery and air power.
it was made just so that if the allies made a super heavy tank first they wouldnt be caught off-guard designing a new one of their own. its only weird with hindsight and without context, also the allies hadnt achieved air superiority in the east by then
@@abbcc5996 All of which would have been fine and dandy for Germany, if not for the fact that war room strategy and battlefield tactics don't always play out 1:1 - Crete, Barbarossa, Market Garden, Kursk, etc. On paper, sure, the Maus is this imposing box of death and destruction, but its potential effectiveness in combat would have relied on the Allies cowering in pants-shitting terror at the sight of such a beast and not being able to figure out how to destroy it in-situ.
the reality is that the germans loved to maintain this facade of "we are a nation of tanks" but the reality is that the german war machine was more top-heavy than a one-legged arnold schwarzenegger
Not to mention that the reload process was extremely slow thanks to the chamber design and shell size, making it a sitting duck for possibly minutes at a time while two guys wrestled the shells around. Complicated further by the fact that for such a massive tank it was tiny inside because it had the same kind of drivetrain as a diesel electric locomotive.
@@abbcc5996 The Luftwaffe was functionally irrelevant by 1944 my dude.
25:38 - "Huh, pretty random to have a bottle of Hungarian wine in this game."
37:07 - "Aaaaaah."
10:22 Whoa. Wait… is that the theme that historian Mark Felton uses for the intro in his WWII videos?! Man, I love his stuff.
I was looking through the comments for this, I didn't know if it was a joke or actually in the game lmao
Honorary degree in history* he just reads wikipedia for his videos
@@Merugaf Well I mean, what are historians supposed to do but recite what other people wrote down before them?
I'm not argueing they're incredible videos, but I don't think they're bad either. Rewriting someone elses account in your own words is schoolboy bullshit. We're not afraid of Mrs. Terwilliger finding out you copy pasted something from a website, we're here to learn some shit about WW2.
Oh yeah it is
The Halligan cameo was horrifying and amazing
The Big Pizza brainrot is in full effect in this video and I’m here for it
There's a "Big Pizza" cut that was even worse. This is the reduced version.
RELEASE THE BIG PIZZA CUT
@@MandaloreGaming I do not understand...
FREE THE PIZZA CUT
@@MandaloreGaming how dare you
According to the lore "John Lynch" is the grandson of David Lynch that travelled to the past... It says it in the box
My dad is a huge history buff, axis and allies fan and generally very into ww2. I remember being in a best buy with him and picking this box out of a bargain bin and showing it to him. Box alone sold him on it and he would watch me play it in our living room on my mom's work laptop. Love this game.
This feels like a running gag of the early 2000's games which games that have a great concept either failed or were buried by more successful games.
10:21 had me confused which channel I was watching for a sec. Didn't expect the Mark Felton jumpscare.
Nearly spit hot cocoa on my monitor when that came up.
Why am I suddenly hearing someone talking in my head about the Fuhrerbunker?
I love the competition between Mandy and Sseth to review the most obscure game possible. The former with old forgotten games in genres that have fallen from popularity and the latter with the most niche indies.
they're both losing to Ross Scott, he might be the most powerful of the triumvirate godhead.
I imagine It's like that "duck/rabbit season" bit from looney toons, but instead of Elmer Fudd with a shotgun, Ross Scott just shows up and says. "Hey, guys! Take a look at this!"
43:26 Not gonna lie, that artwork goes hard ...
From The New Order: Last Days of Europe, a mod for Hearts of Iron 4. About if the Nazis won ww2, lot less camp, lot more war crimes, and a visual novel amount of reading to go along with your strategy game.
"Offer of immortality" fucking slayed me.
6:43 "See a powered armour soldier die the 2nd worst death next to the Animatrix" - Goddamn that's a reference that I didn't think I would think of ever again. Also you had to remind me of that poor bastard didn't you?
That scene gave me nightmares when I saw it, especially with the voice acting.
Bro that scene, that damn scream.. stuck with me ever since, and I only saw it once.
I was not prepared for a mortal kombat level finisher.
@@AtomicRobloxProductionsWhat scene is that?
@@twat3789 So, there was an animation short movie called the Animatrix, showing how humanity fell to robots in warfare over time.
From memory, the scene I'm referencing specifically was near the end, when the robots discovered how easily it was to kill humans physically without the use of firearms or conventional weaponry. What happened was there was a lone soldier in power armor attempting to fight for his life. The machine that found him grabbed the armor by its arms and legs and kept it from escaping using tentacle-like appendages. It then ripped open the cockpit where the soldier was struggling, begging for mercy, and wrapped a tendril around him, quite literally tearing him out of the suit as he screamed before finally being killed, tearing his arms and legs off which were still attached to the suit.
I dunno who the VA was but to this day It's stuck with me, horrifying.
Or to put it in his (last) words "ARGH ARGH HELP ME, HELP ME, OH GOD HELP ME ARGHHH-"@@AtomicRobloxProductions
All of those Brendan Fraser edits had me laughing
yeah same lmao
uggghh~~ need a big PIZZA
26:37 That isn't a tranquilizer dart, that's a throw at a board in a bar dart.
10:53 As a French, I can confirm there is nothing weird with that statement. Talking shit about England is just an instinctual behavior that all Europeans have.
Now, if a Dutch is talking shit about England, it's different. They've been in contact with drunk english men: they're talking from experience
Talking shit about the french is an instinctual behavior all humans have
England? You mean perfidious Albion?
the french simply talk shit
Dude, French people are despised everywhere.
Talking shit about England ? Sure we do it sometimes, but lets not forget the main activity of hating the Fr*nch.
Mandalore, thank you,thank you so much for addding subtitles. I laughed so much at the call of duty scene.
I'm so glad someone saw it
Punch.wav
@@MandaloreGaming the bald volgin one too. Love this
10:22 gotta love the crack at Mark Felton there
Seeing Mandalore cover this ancient gem of a fossil fills me with hope that he'll someday review Codename Panzers Phase 1 and 2. They were such awesome old-school RTS with quite a few unique gameplay mechanics like tanks having actual armor layouts, being able to crew everything from tractors to civilian cars (and capturing enemy vehicles by roasting them with flamethrowers until the crews would run out covered in fire.)
They were made by a small Hungarian studio that sadly went bankrupt in the 2000s, and I'm pretty sure they were ported to Steam around 2018 by a different studio which acquired the rights. Surprisingly bugless and working flawlessly on modern systems as well, which is quite strange, I only ever recall it crashing once in all the times I've had the pleasure of repeatedly beating it over my entire life.
Ha, I played phase 1, 2, cold war and even it's sort of spiritual succesor, rush for Berlin. I remeber first game stired quite a controversy in Poland due to "historical revisionism" 😂
I played CP Phase 2 a long while back, even got promotional postcards that were free to pick up at the time in the tech store. Many years later,, while playing Sudden Strike 4, I was surprised when the animations felt so familiar, only to discover that many of the team were previous CP devs.
Codename Panzers, Sudden Strike, Heroes of WW2, Blitzkrieg - my Ukrainian dad apparently bought them all.
- Adûnâi
Its always weird seeing real British looking housing in games. Especially when a jetpack nazi flies into it.
I definitely had the "best buy" experience you described too as a kid. Germany has a highly monopolized electronic market that is controlled mainly by three chains (two of which are actually the same company...) and every one of these big stores had these big pyramids where there were cheap, old games ranging between 5 and 15 Euros. It's how i got games like Empire at War and The Battle for Middle Earth, but also an immense amount of silly, licensed shovelware. It wasn't hard to convince my parents when we were out to shop for some stuff my dad needed (or were just browsing stuff... my parents had a nasty divorce and my dad liked to bribe us) to get one of those if me and my brother found a game we liked.
Also the callback to Mystery of the Droods made me reel with laughter. Well played, sir.
Memory of that kind of games is why I will probably forever have a soft spot in my heart for CD Projekt and why their cameo in Phantom Liberty moved me more than it should. I still remember the blue-and-red box, with original artwork in a small window on the cover, whole rows of 'em in this or that supermarket and the stress of choosing which will be the 'only one' you were allowed.
That's also how I got slapped in the face with Kingdom Under Fire.
I somehow picked the best games there.
Star Wars Empire at War, Rome Total War Gold Edition, Sup-Com Gold Edition.
I was really lucky with what I found in those pyramids.
Man, rifling through those and looking at the cases, imagining what the game would be like...those were the days.
I kind of missed out on those games because I rarely got a chance to go through the video game aisle at a supermarket when I was younger (I'd usually be left at the Lego or Barbie aisles instead), and when I moved to a bigger city in middle school I already had access to one of then-renowned local gaming magazines and internet so I could check other people's opinions... but at the same time that very same magazine came with a DVD full of games. Sometimes it was old classics, sometimes a big budget game that already made rounds through all the discounted retail editions, and sometimes it was this exact kind of Mandalore/Warlockracy/Ross bait. A game nobody has heard of, often made by a smaller studio in Europe, sometimes only playable in English. They had stuff like Darkstar One, Advent Rising, Loki, Sacred, Mage Knight Apocalypse... I should probably go through my collection and see what can I dig up.
Another good source of these trash/treasure coinflips is small stores with second-hand PS2/early X360 and PS3 games. I have a habit of going there with my partner whenever I visit her and I seem to find the darndest stuff out there.
I had it too for a while. This somehow lead me into buying Karnaaj. I have no memory of buying it so I'm convinced a demon left it in my game collection at the time.
@@michimatsch5862they were broken games too and unbalanced, thanks it were cheaper. Now thanks to Internet we can see which games are good or not.
32:36 The only historical figure in the game (not counting dead Hitler), and they still got him wrong lol. Permanent revolution and declaring war on the whole world was more Trotsky's gimmick than Stalin's, though the book 1984 may have given you the impression otherwise.
I would assume in this timeline Stalin aligned himself with Trotskysts because this timeline is wacky already
@@Redhead-pf8le Stalin won the power struggle but Trotsky killed him with an icepick and used sicret czechnologies to reshape himself in Stalin and take his poisition.
@@TovKafur In the Soviet Union in 1920s-30s there was three factions - TheLeft(Trotskysts), The Centre(Stalin) and The Right(Bukharin)
Historically, Stalin initially aligned with the Right, eliminated the Left, centralised power(hah get it) and then did away with the Right.
I guess in this timeline Stalin aligned with Left instead and made a Left-Centre coalition.
@@Redhead-pf8le There was much more factions than HOI4 has represented, including Zinovyev-Kamenev bloc, presumed military faction (Primakov, Tuhachevsky and so on), not counting that neither the Left nor the Right were any uniform (e.g. Rykov allied to Bukharin but hardly shared his every idea), as well as apolitical (of sorts) "old guard". There never were only 3 factions, and as you correctly pointed out, Stalin maneuvered a lot (including opposing Trostkyte industrialisation programm only to implement it - slightly changed - himself later).
The fact that Stalin aligned with Bukharin and Kamenev-Zinovyev was more becuase everyone was trying to oust Trotsky who was very popular in army (the Father of the Red Army, after all). It had little to do with actual ideology.
@@TovKafur you overthinking, any history-knowing American (or most people in this comment section) know that all deal was this way: Stalin instantly usurped power after death of Lenin and then, like, out of pure paranoia purged people for 30 years straight
As a hungarian kid who got his games the similar fashion as you, I am considering myself very lucky to see my childhood once again. It sparked mylove for the RTS genre. Thanks for the video as always.
10:22 Ooooh, Mark felton :D
Yeah. Started hearing him in my head😂
He's about as accurate as the game so it fits.
i thought it was a joke lol
@@jankosi6882 How is he not accurate? He's literally a doctor in history dumb dumb lol
@@jankosi6882And sometimes it's just hard to tell what the hell he's even saying, since his voice is so boring that it tends to get mixed in with the background music.
Making a game about Nazis and Americans allying to defeat the Soviets is such a Hungarian move. It is as Hungarian as Spellcross, where 90s NATO forces stand against an invasion of canibalistic Elves and Orcs is Czechoslovak (Spellcross was the last Czechoslovak game in many ways).
It really never ceases to amuse me just how mad the entire Butthurt Belt still is, I mean Ukraine is a good part of why but it is just freaking hilarious to me the level of utter butt devestated that every single country anywhere near Russia expresses toward Russia.
@@drek9k2 i am not really sure what do you mean by butthurt belt but if there is a state famously lead for centuries by genocidal dictators that poses constant threat to your statehood it is understandable that it leaves a mark on your collective consciousness
@drek9k2 when you grow up, you will be wiser. for now, shut your damn mouth
@@TheoEvian Everywhere from Latvia and Estonia through the Balkans to Czechoslovaks to Belarus to the Caucasus is what internet Russians have termed "the butthurt belt"
that was BEFORE donbass btw
@@drek9k2 well, I am quite glad that we have lived in their head rent free for so long.
This game is really giving off "WW2 directed by Tommy Wiseau" vibes
"Clean up your mother!" is lowkey the best response to "Clean up your mess" i've ever heard.
23:05 "...real first floor."
*THE LORE CONTINUES*
Not sure if it's lore or just a dig and Europeans. "First floor" being the ground floor is kind of an American thing, where in Europe the first floor refers to what Americans would call the second floor, and the ground level is explicitly called out as being the ground floor.
*WHAT DOES IT MEEEEAAAAN!?!*
it's from his character on the perilous dnd campaign, he plays as an insane bug that discovered basements and is convinced they're some sort of conspiracy now@@PrvBen
@@stephenahern wait where can I watch this
@@stephenahern Is It on UA-cam?
I have totally watched the entire video, good stuff!
You have not because it came out 4 minutes ago and it's 44 minutes long
Thats the joke @@RUDY-COLEMAN
whoosh@@RUDY-COLEMAN
@@RUDY-COLEMAN they watched it in 10 different screens simultaneously so they could absorb all of the content 10x faster
10x speed go brrr
18:56 I would KILL for a F&H review
I have had this game on my shelf for years, bought it as a kid from a local bookshop for like 25p reduced from 50p, never unwrapped it, never really looked into it but it's always there, the one constant in my life from 2007 to now.
This is why I love your content, because a game I haven't thought about in like 6 years but I know I own gets reviewed, just great
Those books at the beginning... Mandalore sure has some good russian friends.
Friends that make videos about fallout fan games
Not many people know that isekai genre, both fantasy and historical, was invented and perfected in Russia
I remember one person in a discord for a certain pig-themed military shitposter was actively summarizing and translating dozens of them. I distinctly remember one that claimed communism was a nationwide strengthening system set up by the romanovs to out-super soldier the Germans and that the millions killed were simply too weak to be "real" Russians. And that nicholas II had pyrokinetics.
@@wand222 is he friends with warlockcracy?
That's how he was introduced to the immortality potion.
I never realised Brendan Fraser played a prominent role in this game
outstanding, what an actor
I'm glad to see you review this game finally now if you do galactic circus games you've finalised my entire obscure games library that nobody's ever heard of before
Seeing this reminded me of a older game "Earth 2150", haven't thought about it in years. Anyway good job, keep up the content.
Mando your videos are my happy place, they are my superbowl. Movies have been getting worse and worse, but Your videos just get better and better. Please dont stop ever.
It warms my heart to see that Mandalore is aware how absolutely insane the *попаданцы* genre is. It's not the kind of soft power that we need, but we're getting there.
i mean, isn't isekai same genre in english pretty much? why shouldn't he be aware of that, given that like 50% of all fanfiction is always about someone being isekai'ed in specific universe.
@@SapFeaRon No. Isekai don't come close to the brainrot that попаданцы are. These are on completely different levels of insane.
@@humanandhalf4118if only you knew m8
@@SapFeaRon'попаданцы' is a very specific genre of isekai, written by and for psychotic fringe extremists across all of Russian political spectrum
Closest non-Russian example I can think of is GATE, except it's like a Scoville scale where GATE is Taco Bell spicy and 'попаданцы' is ghost pepper
@@owldiamond2108 considering that i'm russian and written book in that genre 20 years ago - i don't really need explanation, but thanks anyway i guess.
But fairly sure it's same genre. I don't remember anything "sychotic fringe extremists across all of Russian political spectrum " involving those books. It's good old "missplaced person" trope and political views have nothing to do with genre itself, only with quality of writing if anything.
Not that isekai books/fan fiction any better in quality department - all depends on author.
41:06 DOWN WIZ ZE CHANCELLOR AUUGH! Jeez, one of the best laughs this year.
Supreme Commander! That was my favorite game to play on my first crappy pc that barely ran it! I would love to see a MandaloreGaming review of both games. I still remember so many moments of the game, and they are all based on cool mechanics.
The Mark Felton music caught me off guard for a sec, fantastic reference.
Great video overall, very entertaining. Keep up the incredible work.
"2nd worst death next to the animatrix", I see I wasn't the only person traumatized as a kid by watching that power armored guy get wrecked
42:45 "Hugo Boss or Violet Vixen" HAH you got me with that one, cackling
also I spotted the Fear and Hunger reference, nicely done
I didn't quite get that joke. What's Violet Vixen?
@@Scytherman Quick google tells me it's an online store selling corsets, stockings, garterbelts and other goth/alternative accessories. Lots of leather and lace.
@@Scythermanit’s a joke on how the hearts of iron alt history fan base end up either as super saijan weehraboos or trans fem lefties
No in between
Which is obviously a joke, but it’s also not far from the truth :b
I missed the Fear and Hunger reference, when was it?
Mando should do a video on Fear and Hunger one of these days
Thanks for putting the song list in the credits. I was going crazy trying to remember where I had heard High Noon Hoopla and I was about to... your house, claw hammer, yada yada yada - you get it.
What an outstanding episode! Glad to see interesting games covered that aren't just a pure slog.
I mean, this is both absolutely bonkers and not an awful game at the same time
"See a power-armour soldier die the second worst death next to the Animatrix"
I did not need that memory un-repressing
"Clean up your mother!" I'm definitely using that in real life.
Played this so much growing can’t believe you reviewed it this is why you’re my fav Mando
Watching your reviews is like a dopamine hit for me. Please never stop!
You should look at Total Annihilation, grew up on that game and it was awesome!
The mention of Jousting planes reminds me of the final mission in Ace Combat Zero, wherein an experimental superplane for some reason is completely immune to missiles, except if they are shot at it's front air intakes.
Gods, I really hope the Holy Trinity of that series gets modern rereleases.
I blame borders for that
THIS IS MY CHILDHOOD GAME, YOOOOOO. I'VE BEEN TRYING TOREMEMBER IT FOR YEARS NOW. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE 3RD PERSON GIMMICK WAS MY FAVOURITE
I feel a little bad for you cause it looks like an unpolished and unsupported version of better RTS like Command and Conquer and could never in the world touch something like Warcraft 3 (that literally had this but the entire world as a RTS as a mod/map all with custom models, sounds and animations)
HOWEVER, it does look fun. The alt history stuff, the units, the abilities. I'd play it right now even if just to finish one campaign if it would be easy to get and maybe have a slight remaster for modern resolutions, so definitely I feel like it has its qualities somewhere
Honestly its a shame I never knew about the game but I imagine a more polished version with some more budget and two years of balancing patches would make this alot of fun
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi don't worry, I played Red Alert 3 just as much, if not more, however Warfront's TPS mechanic made my child brain so absolutely wild back then.
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Oof, that game was so bad in every way. The cutscenes of just attractive woman talking were so terrible too, there was like only one fun soviet scene with the moon thing. Like instead of silly over the top hilarious or badass characters it was just attractive woman 101 x.x It was alot of fun in coop at least.
The TPS mechanic reminds me alot of Men of War since that had it too and since then I always wishes for a game that lets me play RTS but also jump into FPS/TPS any time :D
Kinda exists now with the more modern Men of War games but those still dont have basebuilding sadly x.x
Same
That Termina reference was pretty cool! Great video
I know it likely wont happen, but it'd be pretty cool if he did do a video on it
It is quite fun that literally a day before the review came out, I just finished replaying this game in a sudden surge of nostalgia. What a timing.
MECHS
MECHS
MECHS
TANKS WITH FEET, MY TWO FAV FETISHES
MECHS, MECHS, MECHS
Huh?
I love me some big stompy murder robots.
@@thecornfieldiii2069genius
This is not a vodka necromancer this is a spiritist
"You'll end up wearing Hugo Boss or Violet Vixen by the end of the year" is maybe my favorite mandalore joke ever
Oh man, I remember loving this game back in the day. Didnt play the hell out of it, but the steampunk concept of a WW2 dragging on and Tiger tanks being merely mid-tier with mechs and giant zeppelins and sci-fi shielding made it so, so memorable. And I remember loving the story concept too, even if the story itself was fairly simple. Thanks for making a video on it! Its such a niche game, but definitely would worth picking up I say.
Holy shit. First minute in. I never heard much about this game, and I have vague memories of it. Thank you Mandy, I'll forever treasure this.
We need a remake of this game and have a fighting system just like company of heroes
@@ayelmao4258... isn't... isn't that just... Iron Harvest?
@niallreid7664 💯 0
Glad to see Warfront wasnt a fever dream for $2 at an op shop.
The amount of budd dwyer edits in this video is a treat to me specifically, thank you
Man I wanted to play this game back in the day on my old potato PC but could not simply do. The art cover for the game on the disc was the thing that drawn me to it. Thanks Mandalore for allowing me to see what I missed from my childhood.
I feel like if you were from a certain age and demographic in the US you had your “best buy method” store.
For me it was a staples in walking distance of my house. Some of the positives I got were age of mythology, rise of legends, and freelancer.
Notable Negatives were Empire Earth 3 and some hidden object game that had this silent hill post apocalyptic cover on it that completely tricked me
For a rather brief period, mine was Fry's Electronics years before it was closed down. I still have my boxed copy of rFactor from there.
Having a Alternate History WW2 game's antagonist be a nameless unseen Chancellor who doesn't even get "Hes way worse than that Hitler guy ever was" is more of a stretch than saying there were Mechs at Stalingrad
As a Hungarian, this game was my childhood, I love every second of it and I hated how this game was nowhere to be found on the internet. Glad to see it finally getting some coverage by a larger youtuber! ❤🎉 To this day I have the physical version of the game :D!
Thank you for covering this quite obscure game.
I remember it as there were trailers for it in another CDV game, Blitzkrieg 2.
13:22 the bomb filled B-17 is based on the Operation Aphrodite missions.
Fun fact: the favored Son of the Kennedy political dynasty was killed on one mission.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aphrodite
Wtf is the favored son of the Kennedy political dinasty?
@@thejugernautkiller390 Joseph P. Kennedy Jr.
He was the one the family wanted to have run for President instead of JFK.
@@b.e.654 And why you have to said like that? I'm pretty sure that political dinasty is not even properly used in this case.
@@thejugernautkiller390what's eating your craw?
@@thejugernautkiller390 whats improper about the use of dynasty here? It's not strictly accurate because they aren't nobility but "political dynasty" being used to refer to families with many members serving as politicians isn't uncommon.
IIRC the Launch Trailer explained what happened: Hitler died before assuming power and WW2 would happen like 10y later... time enough to develop Mechas and Mini Nukes xD
Major kudos for the Nieve reference. Fun little call back to Anonymous Agony and more so Nieve and that song, but particularly the only viewers who’d catch that are those of us who actually looked it up after watching the AA vid. Bravo.