The Hottest Pickup On AliExpress
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Ah yes the Oops! All Rails! pickup. Doesn't sound half bad. Definitely an interesting idea.
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Nice one got me good
Rails resulted from all that Fender has done. Which means it's an ultimate. Just misunderstood, and it's the people that were incapable to find a use for it.
I've had good experiences with Off-Brand pickups.... they sounded as I would expect for the design, and didn't malfunction.
Where do you buy them from?
I don't really agree with your "I'm not going to waxpot a cheap pickup". I bought some invader clones from aliexpress for dirt cheap, the only problem with them was that they were feedbacking, but after wax potting it went away and they actually sound great. I have a guitar with EMGs and I like these clones way better and I put them in one of my main guitar. I'm currently selling my EMGs and I want to replace them also with a pair of these clones.
Nice He man cover!!!
I have one of those Quadrails in one of my cheaper handman guitars from a friend, and man, it screams so much.
I was surprised…the cheap pickup sounded quite good…however, I could tell you really enjoyed playing that N2 way more👍
That's also just cause it's a much better guitar than that cheap modern Ibanez 🤣🤣
Kramer did a pickup like that called the Quadrail and it was a very dark muddy pickup, sounded way better when split.
I literally need a pick up like this xD, im forming a grindcore/noisecore band, so feedback=good
Sounded fine to me.
Thanks!
🙏🏼🙏🏼
Sounds legit.
whats your signal chain? that amp(sim?) sounds crisp af
Sim?? How dare you! JCM800 Kerry King Signature with a mini Tube Screamer & a Fender YJM overdrive
you have such a good taste when it comes to riffs, i love each and every one you Play. 3:18 what song is that?
The band was At The Gates, its a song of Slaughter Of The Soul but cant remember if it was the title track or another
Slaughter of the soul by At the gates! And thanks 😎
@@sixstringtv1 blessed comment 🫡
I had one of these at one point, lol. If anyone sees a Glarry Burning Fire with one of these and Strat single coils and insane wiring out there, I want it back.
Stop scratching the strings and play that damn guitar 🎸
Its less muddy than your nuno/dime PU but not that less gainy
It warms this old man's heart to see a young buck in an Exhorder t-shirt ripping an At The Gates riff on a video opener.
Saw Exhorder live two weeks ago, they ripped!!
the pickup doesnt sounds that bad, its would have been fun to put the pickup on the clean channel to see how it distorts. love your vids, extremely underrated
That was the clean channel...
@@TheLowest oh shit
@@TheLowest what a twist!
I have a clean and dirty demo after I wax potted it on my yt channel
@@TheLowestI’ve owned 3 of these pickups and thats not true lol
Would have been cool if you also recorded the original PGM pickup for comparison
=)
I got a matched pair of cheap quad rail buckers from a UK brand called Warman. Believe the set was around 30€ pre-brexit, probably also chinese made, and they are wonderful metal steamrollers too.
They came with wiring instructions and I installed them with a split switch. The split sound is relatively singlecoil-ish but with the benefit of still having the humbucking effect. Pretty happy with the tonal versatility tbh.
It did the Extreme thing EXTREMELY well!!😮👌 That Pup deserves a forever home!🤣
what
DC resistance tells us how long is the wire used on coils, it usually corresponds to number of turns/windings around core - which is "hotness" of the pickup, but since we have 4 cores instead of usual 2 there should theoretically more turns > bigger output
I've seen some of those Chinese mini rails listed as alnico 5 magnets and around 6/7k resistance.
Based on that they should have a very "vintage" single tone.
Doesn't look that hot from the specs.
Which is cool if that's the case, bringing the rails advantages to vintage tones, not only for overpushed metal machines.
AliExpress pickups be like: “Good luck Installing this bro!”
Why?
All the wires are there. You just solder the wires where they go and you're done.
Just like any other pickup.
it's not really rocket science, all the aliexpress humbuckers I bought had 5 wires, 2 pairs of them were always soldered together, so from there it is really easy to figure it out. The single wire is always the hot (north start), the one that is soldered together with the bare wire is the ground (south start-bare shield) and the other two are for the coil split (north finish-south finish).
why not wax pot it?. it would be a good video to illustrate whether it improves the pu, or not. cheers.
Love that Exhorder shirt! Bought the same one not too long ago
So glad to hear so many people fond of Louisiana metal bands like Exhorder and Acid Bath.
@@sole__doubt legendary bands!
I'll say it too man, they sound pretty good. Not bad certainly. Some people like a hot pickup that feeds back a little. I wonder how it would sound by the neck? Btw if those four wires are actually all connected normally you could wire this several ways. I imagine coil split or putting bridge out of phase with the neck in 'both' position. Whatever. Four rails looks cool.
I'm building a guitar with interchangeable pickups, and full electronics for whatever pickups you plug into it. The quadrails do A/B/both and phase. So you can split the north or south coil and do stuff like inner and outer coils. By and large they behave like two coil humbuckers with split. But they do have 2 small coils each for "north" and "south" with the rails adjacent to opposite poles of the magnets, so they should still hum cancel in split modes (never tested it, and never noticed a problem). I've done at least a dozen builds with quadrails.
Looks like a copy of the Kent Armstrong Motherbucker, which was also the basis of several BKP models. The calling card for the Kent Armstrong is that you can set it up for a multitude of switching options to get a wide variety of sounds from just one pickup.
Probably could do the same with this one, once you figured out the wiring.
I figure if it has the value proposition of sounding good why NOT wax pot a 7 dollar pup?
Wonder if they do 'em Bass Sized (yes I'm weird - and I dont mind doing the shielding )
was thinking the same, seems like a great trade off to me
I mean, a Super D is pretty hot for 1972. They sound great in a Les Paul. DiMarzio (and Duncan, BKP…even Gibson) make plenty of pickups that smoke it. I’d call a Super D a medium output pickup these days. I hate rail pickups. Never found one that didn’t drive me up a wall.
I recall a triple humbucker back in the 90s called a "motherbucker," but I think it was just a rails humbucker and a single coil in a widened pickup slot.
I thought the quad coil sounded good! I suppose you could easily wax pot it.
I don’t hate this pickup either, but I see what you mean about the feedback. I wouldn’t want to sit there wax potting a cheap pickup - you may as well buy a pickup that’s $10-$20 more that is already shielded because the supplies to do the wax potting will cost at least that if not more (plus time is money too!). However, what about it shielding the inside of the electronics cavity? That takes less time/effort, and the investment in the necessary supplies (basically shielding paint and a brush or shielding tape/foil) might make it more cost effective and worth doing. It’s not a sure fix, though, but I would think it’s likely to help in most cases if someone wants to make a habit of buying cheap pickups on the regular.
Hows about a cheapo form of 'wax potting' like a hot glue gun??
And yeah I dont mind doing the shielding
The exceptions to this are Lace pickups where the bobbin sits in a grounded steel channel and occasionally Fender will put a shielding ring around a pickup and ground it.
Glad to see the Quadrail is making a comeback.
Don't understand the statement that you wouldn't waxpot a 6 dollar pickup. They are exactly the ones who need it.
This pickup randomly died about two weeks after filming, so I think that reinforces my point a bit hahah
Ohms? Who cares! What matters is how many parsecs faster you can play after installing it....
Warman Drivetrain quad rail. 28k ohms. Only found 1 video seems very clean with good tone. Can't find the comparison video any more. The Ali express sux in comparison.
Sorry, but the true moral from this story is:
Dont buy anything ever from ali-express or temu...!!!😅
Actually the hottest quad rail humbucker I know of is from Warman Guitars UK. The Drivetrain. Few sound bites to be found but the one I did find sounded great.
I was just admiring a 4-color model. I generally hate hot pickups, but I may try a pair just for the look.
I was tempted to buy this quadrail pickup for my silver strat but if its microphonic with feedback I don't want it even though it looks awesome and is super cheap its probably built in a mass production factory
I have three of those which i got on Amazon for $15 ea. mine measure at 18.5 K ohms average and sound good in my 'Strat'.based build..
All Aliexoress pickups i've tried has been total carbage! Allthough those cost nothing better just invest for second hand Duncans or Dimarzios if your'e on a budget!
I buy a
AliExpress back pick up for my telecaster I hope it sounds good the real ones are like 400$
So have you heard of a Kent Armstrong Typhoon it’s roughly 22k ohms
I was thinking Kent Armstrong as well! Just posted a comment that this looks like a clone of the Kent Armstrong Motherbucker.
@@nicholasnguyen8308 and they are less than 50USD
Bill Lawrence use to make something similar called the motherbucker. I have a pair of them in my Flying V and they are mad chunky
Good stuff...
Do have a suggestion though.... Could you do a video on EXACTLY how to wax pot some pickups? Like, the whole process? Type of wax... all the stuff involved?
This reminds me of the BKP that's 4 rails, except it's designed more like dual-rail single coils just in a humbucker iirc. Rails are nice for multi-scale guitars with angled pickups so poles not aligning isn't an issue.
Please build a guitar fully out of ali express parts 😂
Has anyone experimented to combine two singlecoil size humbuckers in pararel? :D
Perhaps you should wax pot it, it'll probably turn your $7 pickup into a $70 pickup
Props for showing a Washburn Guitar while mentioning the Bill Lawrence Humbucker. Thats rare ;)
It actually kinda rips man. I’d keep it in that guitar for sure. And… why not dip it in wax and see if it makes a difference. Would be kind of a cool experiment!
I have a demo of that on my channel
The different scale lengths might be throwing off the accuracy of the comparison between guitars. Longer scale guitars have a closer relative bridge pickup position which makes them sound brighter
k ohms is a roughtly term for gain nothing wrong with that ,
That actually sounded rather good 👍 even with the slight feed back.
And luckily for you I am an Electrician ⚡️⚡️
Nice At The Gates riffing. It sounds killer \m/
Thanks! 😎😎
I was actually ordering these pickups for my guitar build im working on! I literally just ordered them yesterday, all the demos ive found they sound sick on
Wait… At the gates? Off the rip? Subscribed!!!
Like the Kramer labeled "quad rails" pickup.
Why not wax pot that pickup? If nothing else it would make a good video and besides all that you said with a huge smile on your face how much you miss doing gear videos, seems like a no brainer to me. Do it for sh!ts, giggles and youtube! LoL
I just might, if I'm ever not extremely busy with other projects. I'll definitely keep it around
Exhorder ? wow they were an obscure 80s band I had their first album slaughter in the vatican. Surprised you younger guys have heard of them
Saw them live earlier this year
I have the washburn and know how it sound,, Good.
Wait up. Why not wax pot it? This sounds like the perfect experiment. I'm curious if you can improve on it. It's the natural progression to this video.
Yeah maybe I will. It's still in the guitar so I might get to it
for seven bucks thats not bad at all
Ummm…… why not try it?? See what happens.
its got 3 blades its like a marshall that go's to 11
Anyone a fan of guitarfetish pick ups? I love the lil killers calibrated set in my Strat
Everything GFS makes is killer.
I got crazy deals when they came out with the new Xaviere guitars.
Feeling the yngwie malmsteen vibe 😊
i got a 90s washburn also lol
I actually own a few of these. I even a-b'd them against some other pickups I have, including the Railhammer Anvil, the Lace Drop and Gain, the Lace D3 Sabertooth, the Bare Knuckle Painkiller, the Lundgren M6, and the Seymour Duncan Nazgul. This little quad rail sounded better than all of those.
Your Mileage may vary - but I'm intrigued
Pers I dont mind adding shielding :)
@@petegaslondon I mean, yes, they are sort of microphonic. But that doesn't matter to me because I put a noise gate before my amp.
This is actually the best $6 sound I have ever heard and I am not even a big fan os high output pickups. I may be buying one.
My omen 6 came stock with a 14.6k neck pickup and it’s not any louder than my other neck pickups in the 6-9k range. Also it has squeaky clean tones running it through a Mesa Mark I.
Good at the gates sounding 😁😁
Man… I was NOT expecting that 😮 can smell those cranked mids from here 🤘🏻
What's the pcb on 3:14 about? on board preamp? If yes were can I buy one?
That's the pickup switch on the Paul Gilbert guitar
Sounds pretty good to me!
Ah I was expecting some clean/overdriven comparisons - lot easier to tell the difference between pickups when they're clean, even super hot ones. With that much gain for shred they basically sound identical.
Wax pot it to do a before and after video. That pickup sounds pretty fucking sick even in a little toy PG.
From your buying experience, are the pickups from AliExpress, or DGgate microphonic? Thanks for any insight. 🙂
I’d buy that for a dollar.
add to the hand made custom stainless steel pick guard that I mounted them in which is in itself shielding, I get good full range sound...lol but then I run my signal through a Blackstar ID Core 40 watt stereo amp from it's 3.5 mm earphone output in the tiny amp into the CD input ,of my surround receiver and out through the full system, sub woofer included and the tones are great..lol ...yup yup I like it loud....
Sounds great to me !!!
Dimarzio Super Distortion is not the hottest one. X2N used to be the hottest, but I've even encountered pickups with 20k+ Ohm... Gets so muddy for me
sounds terrible
Ohms are a perfectly fine way to measure pickup output. /0/ ''It's not like the pickup manufacturers use it as a QC step'' ///
song in testing?
I purchased the same pickup except I got mine on eBay I use mine at the neck and it actually distorts and doesn't have that muddy sound that usually comes with distorting on the neck pickup
Is the bill lawrence a real bill and becky wilde pickups one or a fake bill lawrence USA one?
None are fake, dime used all versions of them.
@@mitchconnerandsometimesjlotoo whether dimebag used them doesn't make them fake or not. Dgaf what dimebag used
It sounds great! Problem is, all those people who spent lots on hot pups, ( I recently bought a pair of Hot Rails), are going to be butt hurt.
I've got a Wilkinson humbucker and it actually is decent, not amazing but better than the stock ones some cheaper guitars have
i took a course on how to assemble and wind pickups. its super simple. you should definitely wax pot that pickup
I hung out a few times with Exhorder!! Well just during a rehearsal session. Fantastic band
ATV
Pickups don’t have shielding, just potting to prevent vibration-based feedback.
Link?👀👀
THE TONE IS KILLER!! sounds so close to an evh type
The K-man buying the cheap stuff on Aliexpress so we dont have to. :)
Glenn showed pickups dont matter, half a pop tart sounded the same as BKPs or Fishmans
Since you've played it in so many videos now, THE HE-MAN WOMAN HATER IS NOT PICKED, IT'S LEGATO. It's what gives it that funky time-feel
No way it's legato, you can hear the pick attack
Sick riffage bro im 31 and hate the new death core stuff so happy to hear some of stuff