Porphis PRD717 1.4 v Iwata Wider4L 1.4, Low Pressure, Low Overspray Spray Guns
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- My ramblings on the Porphis PRD717 1.4 and the Iwata Wider4L spray gun. Thanks for watching everyone. It really is appreciated 👍
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I recieved my Porphis spray gun today. The prd-717 with a 1.4 tip. And the very first thing that i thought was. Quality i mean Quality. When you think Chinese and low cost you are not thinking of this kind of quality. This gun is hands down beautiful. And absolutely well built spray gun .Great job Porphis. And feels great in my hand. Looking forward to taking this thing for a spin.
Hi Mate, They are a quality tool, I think you'll love it, I know I love mine, definitely worrying the big boys in the spray world, let us know what you think when you've used it.
The PRD717 can be used at quite low pressures with good results, so try experimenting a little, cheers, buddy 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 will do for sure bubba.
Looks like the Porphis is real deal. It's a great option for the Diy guys out here then you can buy a few and not kill your budget. I don't see a issue with the longevity as long as Porphis continues to back the guns with repair parts that are available to consumers .
Hi Mate, to be fair, the Porphis PRD guns are made as good as the big boys, and lots of people are using them now, I think the big companies will be a little worried 🤔, cheers buddy 👍
Thanks for another great side by side video. I love my 717 although I only have the 1.3 tip set. Interesting to see the comparisons with the Iwata. Haven’t noticed the weight difference but you are right about the feel or balance. Looking forward to your review of the new mini gun. As always, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge
Hi Scott, they are a lovely gun, the 1.4 just speeds it up a little , I will be ordering a mini gun as soon as they are out, so quite excited to try it 😀, thanks Scott, much appreciated mate 👍
HEY MATE,THANKS FOR THE NEW VIDEO AND THE INFORMATION ON THE GUN CLEANERS❤❤
Hi Lesli, You're welcome, mate . Thanks for watching 👍
Pretty work Sir, low over spray, and a nice finish, can’t go wrong. Thank you young man, cheers
Hi Bryan, Thank you, sir , always much appreciated 🙏
Beautiful finishes, mate!
Hi mate, thank you, much appreciated 👍
Hi Pete, a cracking comparison between these two guns mate the 717 really lays the clear on nice as does the Wider4L but it looks like the 717 puts out a wetter pattern making it easier to get a full wet coat down, it's not always the size of the fan that counts but the quality plus a wetter pattern is better for clear👌
I know I keep saying I'm going to get a Porphis gun but yet again I'm having financial problems which I wont go into on here, still having problems with my brother as well I really don't know what's going on there, happy days!!🙄😁😆
Thanks Pete👍
Hi John, Yes, people often assume a bigger pattern is better, but there's much more to it than just size. Well, that's what I tell the wife 😉 .
The Porphis is definitely worth getting mate when you get some spare money. Hopefully, it won't be too long. Cheers John 👍
Ah yes mate as the old saying goes it's not the size that matters it's what you do with it that has the desired effect🤭😆
One day I will get the 717 mate no matter what it takes even if I have to walk the streets 🚨mind you that would probably cost me money😁😅thanks Pete👍
Hey Pete figured I'd let you in on this, just recently i was browsing Amazon and i happened to come across an lvlp with a split nozzle made by KOTA
Hi James, I've just looked it up, there's a fair few different ones about , the Dram I recently got is very good and not that expensive, Avalon in Taiwan also have some new ones out
Hi Pete. I have the 717. Would you say it's not worth buying a LPH400 or Wider4L if I have a PRD717? Reason I ask is because I have an opportunity to buy a LPH400 at a good price with the silver cap.
Hi Mate, I think the PRD717 is a better gun than the LPH400, I've only got the LVX Orange cap, but, I have a Wider4L which has the same cap, different threads on the bezel but the bit that does the work is the same as the silver caped LPH400 and IMO the Porphis is better than both.
The Wider4L and LPH400 are supposed to run, according to Iwata, at 1.1bar, so 16psi but most run them around 21 to 24 psi to get a flatter finish, the Porphis seems to run well at a huge range of pressures with ease, so a better gun IMO.
@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks for the response. I think i will save my money for something else.
You're welcome, buddy 👍
Thanks for all the great videos, which of the porphis guns would you recommend that would get clear on fast? (Most like the sagola) or would you just recommend sagola? I have a big job on a police truck in 95° weather in Florida. (humid) and have to get the material on quickly. Thanks again.
Hi Mate, PRD715 1.3, PRD625 1.3, if you want to keep the price down the PHS155 is fast as well, not as well made as the PRD guns but still good for the money 👍
Great video Pete!! I was in love with the Wider4L for a while until i discovered it it used alot of air. I have a 100Ltr compressor so its a no go. What full size/Midi gun do you recommend Pete for a Diy'er with a low air consumption around 300$ mark?
Hi Mate, take a look at the Meiji Finer Force guns. They are a good Midi gun, so pretty universal. Probably, the best made guns there is, bar none
@@peteshobbies5383 Wow beautiful guns!! Thanks Pete!
@brooks.5849 You're welcome buddy 👍
What I do for my clear in winter is i heat up a metal pot of water with a propane turkey fyer. Then i put my can of clear and can of activator in there to warm up before i mix and spray. Helps flow a lot better especially high solids euro clear
Yeah, I used to do a similar thing using hot water to warm it up. These days, the microwave is super quick and seems easier, so I use that. Cheers, mate 👍
Hi Pete! I ordered the MPH338 as well. Got it in the 0.8 tip. The email from them said it also can come with a 0.5 and a 1.0 tip. Now I only see the 0.8 and 1.0 tip in their website available to order. But I am not seeing the tips sold separately. Do you know if they will make them available separately? I would like to get the 1.0 and maybe the 0.5 as well at some point if I like the gun for the smaller repairs.
Hi Mate, If you message them, you should be able to get a tip set separately. Use the email I've put in the description.
The email I received also says 0.5 as well, this is all very new, so I expect they will offer it once they have caught up with production
Hi Again buddy, I asked them about the 0.5 setup, and it's not going to be generally available, it is with bulk orders, so they will make them if there is a big order for them
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you!!!
@costask823 You're welcome buddy 👍
This is my first spray gun purchase.
Should I get 717 or 715 for spraying clear and base coat
I’m considering getting 717 tip for clear and a NNK 715 mp 1.4 for spraying base
Hi mate, If you are buying a tip set as well, I would get the 717 in 1.3 for base and the 715 in 1.3 for clearcoat, unless you live somewhere very hot and like a very very fast gun, 1.3 will be enough in the PRD715
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you for replying! It will be around 80* f what psi do you recommend for the tips you mentioned?
@JuanCheeto It depends on what you want but the 715 would be 2 bar and the 717 anything between 1.1 and 1.7 bar depending on colours
Hi! Wich spray gun between Porphis PRD 717 and PRD715 MP can lay the flattest clear finish?
Hi, probably the 717, they are quite different to use, the 715 is much faster, more like a Sata 5000 RP, the 717 is more like an LPH400 or Wider4L, but better 😉
The blue gun with how many PSI does it work?
Hi Mate, on this video, it was 1.4 bar, which is 20 psi. It will work well at a bit lower pressure, but for best results with either of these 20 psi works well
Petes y en cuanto a consumo de material?
Hi mate, these split tip guns run at relatively low pressure and atomise fine, so they are very good on material consumption
@@peteshobbies5383 ok amigo pero en cuál pudiste notar un poco más o un poco menos de consumo?
It's very close, but if I had to pick one, I would say the Iwata uses a little less material
@@peteshobbies5383 muchas gracias amigo Petes saludos
@jesuszaragoza2473 You're welcome buddy 👍
I am still using that PRD-715 1.3MM for clear coat instead of my Devilbiss DV1-C Clear Coat gun. Sure the porphis I spray at 29psi compared to the Devilbiss DV1-C's 10psi but the porphis puts a lot more volume out while atomizing extremely fine. I use that PHS-155 1.8MM for primer/sealer too. I hope these guns make these other companies rethink their prices. All 3 of my DV1's were expensive and before those I used Walcom and those Genesi360 guns were almost $900. There is no reason for a spray gun to cost that much. Walcom has to be pocketing $650 off every genesi360 or alumino360 they sell
Hi mate, I must admit, I am thinking something very similar mate, the big boys have been hiking their prices up when a new model come out to a point where its just not justifiable.
Slowly, as news of alternatives emerge it will start to take big sales form them , it's only a matter of time
@@peteshobbies5383 i wanted to ask you. Are your Porphis guns extremely loud like a whistling noise? Mine are its the only thing i do not like
@user-un5my5bw4j Hi Mate, can't say I noticed that much to be fair, compared to a DV1 Clear or Sagola DVR Clear they are rather quite 😉
@@peteshobbies5383 right on. I totally disassembled the entire spray gun includding the fitting on the bottom of my prd-715 and cleaned it all out(i use gumout carb/choke cleaner with red straw on to clean guns out) incase i had something in there splitting the air inside. Seemed to help some. Changed out that damn swivel on the bottom too