Imagine you live in the Star Wars galaxy, you are browsing the holonet and watch the video of Emperor Palpatine announcing that he returned and destroyed some random planet with his ship, but he has like 3000 of these ships. Then you go to bed, and in the next day, you read that him and his ships were all destroyed
If games like Power Washer Simulator can exist and get more than decent sales, then a well made game about logistics in Star Wars is bound to have a little success I think. Just a game about doing mundane tasks, in a fantastic universe
I love logistics. I particularly think logistics can be a very interesting part of Star Wars. In particular I think that logistics would be very interesting in regard to the clone wars with an explanation of how the war worked. A lot of fans talk about how the Separatists would have won because of numbers but large numbers make logistics a lot more complicated and if the Republic wins victories especially by taking key hyperlanes. It would be a good way to better explain how the republic could be on even footing or even be winning when they are outnumbered. I wish that Star Wars should have more details on logistics as it’s such a critical point of the whole war thing
I'd say the CIS would have a lesser headache than the GAR if it comes about logistics. Droids dont need to eat, drink or rest. All they need is energy and ammonation, which never seemed to be much of a concern in the Star wars galaxy. Also at least the B1s are very compact in during transport, so transporting them also is much easier, not to mention its less of a tragedy to lose a transport with a few thousand droids aboard than a transport of a few clone when each clone is as expensive as hundreds of B1s
@@alias_aka_alias spare parts, oil for maintaining, recharging stations, refueling blasters, and transporting. The droids have some logistical problems as well
@ while I do think what you say is true you must also remember that the Cis uses a lot of different droid types from different companies with differing types of ammunition and supplies. Droids also need repair parts as well. That complicates logistics as you need to supply large amounts of troops with specific supplies. The GAR uses very specific types of weapons and vehicles from the same manufacturer so would have less issues from needing different types. Clones may also need food and water but overall they likely need less than what the droid army needs just from its size.
@@generalsmite7167 the CIS Units all come from the same 3 or 4 manufacturers, besides some rather specific models like the Droidekas or TriFighters. All those Blaster need is tibanna gas and electricity. Spare parts are less of a concern, as damaged or destroyed units will be disassembled and repaired with the parts of their fallen comrades
I'm not sure why but I've always had a fascination with the technicalities of fictional universes, which is partly why I like this channel so much. You can give me small unit tactics from something like Gaunt's Ghosts, or obscure logistical info from something like this video and I'm all for it. I don't even like Star Wars very much as a series but still love obscure topics like this lmao
7:15, fleet tenders could also be what you'd describe the vat-grown protein rations that keep ships running on a full stomach in-between being resupplied. This was partly a joke, but being able to grow your own food on-board a ship would be a sound way to extend a ship's mission profile.
I think I'm tapped out on new Star Wars forever (I'd be very happy to have my mind changed if they finally do something good again), but I'll be here watching these as long as Eck makes them.
They sacrificed the story for quick profits via political grandstanding. I prefer shows that don’t preach at their audience and assumes that their audience is smart enough to follow a complex plot. Star Wars sequels deserves to fail. With such a rich universe, it’s truly sad that we couldn’t be treated to something better than “less-than-mediocre.”
Engines larger than a Star Destroyer. I go down the logistics rabbit hole all the time and that was my most recent one. I was reading some Super Star Destroyer Executor schematics and realized that each of the 13 engines was the size of a standard Star Destroyer. There was rumored to be at least a dozen Executor class, so thats at least 156 SD sized engines that need to be produced. These were built by Cygnus. Thats all it said. The entire rest of the afternoon I thought about a rebel cell's entire operation was to disrupt the production of these absolutely colossal drive motors. I imagined that, to reduce complexity but produce the amount of power required, an all new type of engine would need to be designed. The heat and pressure on the structure of these monsters would be insane. Imagine a thruster bell almost half a kilometer wide! These would be the pinnacle of imperial drive engines! Using incredibly powerfull magnetic turbines coupled to plasma injectors that could move not 100s of metric meters of plasma per sec but 1000s. The thrust rating of the new engines under full power would be enough to completely destroy a large capital ship caught too close inside its engine's exhaust wake. These engines, despite being heavily shielded and built within a structure 25 meters thick were still very vulnerable to wear. The corrosive spalling caused by plamsa streams occasionally pushing through the magnetics would quickly wear the internals of the engine down to ever lower levels of effeciency. So some exotic materials need to be brought in. Vast quantities of Ranite was to be used to line the interior of the engine chambers, particularly ignition. This mineral, closely related to kyber, but denser and tougher also had valuable properties in energy absorbtion. Thereby greatly improving the components to spalling. Butbthis also provided the weak point in the logistical chain that the rebels could exploit. If one could reduce the amount of Ranite being integrated into SC10 naval construction steel, one could reduce the amount of Executor class star destroyers.
For logistics I've always had the head canon that Star Destroyers have the manufacturing capabilities to construct more tie fighters, and thus never need to replenish basic equipment, just fuel (if it can't find it's own) and more sophisticated replacement parts.
#askeck can you please do a video on the best or most exotic pets/beasts of burden and why/how they came to be domesticated? The biological diversity of the Star Wars universe has always unlocked the curiosity part of my brain.
Most of the tabletop RPG systems introduce a number of new transports and freighters as well. FFG introduced Stealth ships for both sides and while the Empire got a Stealth scout Frigates (So the Star Wars counterpart of Mass Effect's Normandy but with a fighter squadron in addition to her on board weapons) the Rebellion got a Stealth Light Freighter
#askeck speaking of logistics where do you think the Megador and the Dominion were during the vong invasion of the remnant? My theory they were heavily damaged before the Hand of thrawn duelgy then after peace was established afterwards there wasn't any rush to fix them. Once the vong invasion begins pelleon accelerates their repair and staffing, and training but the Crews are raw. When "two super star destroyers" are mentioned in Destiny's way its both of them on their first training cruise to show off above Bastion. I believe the Dominion was at prefsbelt during the "force hertic: remnant" and the Megador helped evacuate Bastion
My favourite parts of sci fi universes is always just learning about logistics, it's interesting. And my literal first youtuber i've watched for 6 years is making a video about my oldest favourite franchise. Let's goooo
I think a video on the linguistical challenges faced by the SW characters would be an interesting one. I recently decided to replay Knights of the Old Republic and in the very beginning, one of the characters mentions that your ability to understand most alien languages is rather unexpected for a rookie such as yourself. That made me wonder for a bit. We know most people understand Twi'lek, and that Han Solo knows Wookie(of course he does, they are friends) and apparently, most people seem to understand Hutt... But there is also a "galactic common language" that everyone seems to understand. Yet, at the same time, there seems to be a big market for protocol droids, whose job is to translate the many many languages across the world. What I am most wondering about is just how many years the average person in the Star Wars universe is expected to spend on learning all these radically different languages. If you met someone who speaks English, German, Spanish, Italian, French, Russian, Polish...you'd assume this person is either an immortal vampire or someone with seriously advanced language acquisition skills. Star Wars just brushes that aside with "yeah, guy understands thirty radically different languages that evolved separately for thousands of years" Most of the languages I listed have roots in Latin and they can be pronounced by humans with human mouths. What would compel anyone to learn a language like wookie, that can't possibly be even spoken by them? And Han Solo isn't just like "yeah, wookie hungry" he seems to understand the subtle nuances where he's like "yeah, Chewie wants us to realign the flux condenser" I also find it rather endearing that sometimes they talk in their own language to someone speaking the galactic common language. When was the last time you heard a conversation where one guy spoke one language and another guy spoke another, and they seem to have understood each other perfectly and this whole situation posed no issues whatsoever? People tend to speak using the common language they both understand. I think that if I spoke twi'lek and french and you spoke twi'lek and french, we'd just stick to either. It's just a bizarre situation that I don't think is adequately explained, sorry for the overlong rant. ...starting to think that approaching Star Wars as if it were a sci-fi is an ultimately pointless endeavor. The first line literally begs you to suspend your disbelief.
i would love to get a film or short about an imperial convoy getting attacked by rebel ships, something like greyhound with just a few ships trying to protect a bunch of slow lightly armed transports
I would love to see a video on how hyperspace works, specifically needing to get a run up to light speed. In the movies this is not talked about much, but at the books it is talked about a lot. There is some conflicting information out there and I would love to see you cover it.
#askeck Can you give a 10 minute dissertation on the difference between how canon and legends have dealt with the evolution of the rebel fighter fleet? I always felt like x-wings and y-wings were adopted earlier, with A-wings and B-wings being developed later to fit specialized niches, but Star Wars rebels seems to show the reverse happening. What are your thoughts?
Can't speak for Eck, but in Legends it was all about the rebel fighters having on-board hyperdrives. When the carrier can be multiple star-systems and the hangar can be a concealed base almost anywhere in the galaxy, there's no real way to stop a hit-and-run attack or a raid. Remember, the crawl for Episode 4 specifically calls the theft of the Death Star plans the rebellion's "first victory." Watching "Rebels", the fighters are introduced mostly as 'whatever the Rebels can get their hands on' with the X-Wing gradually becoming the 'all-in-one' mainstay.
@@Grizabeebles I agree with everything you just said. In the original empire at war rebel campaign, “anything they could get their hands on” was represented by Z 95s and Y wings. Eventually, they steal the prototypes for X wings, and a group of Incom Designers defect. I was under the impression that as the rebels’ capacity grew after the destruction of the first death star, they were able to start manufacturing their own fighters, which is where a-wings and b-wings came from. That’s why I thought it was interesting that Phoenix squadron in rebels uses a-wings, and even gets a prototype b-wing before they even pick up the y-wings that they donate to Jan Dodanna.
@@TazOnTheReel -- The rebels manufacturing their own fighters in games like "Empire at War" is an artifact of it being a video game. The lore I'm familiar with says that the vast majority of the rebels' X-WIng fleet was just straight-up purchased from Incom througb shell companies and the like.
@@TazOnTheReel The X-Wing's story is almost unchanged so far, relative to EaW. Some do show pretty early in Andor though. The A-Wing is heavily changed, and there's now a predecessor version. The B-Wing was in prototype a long time meanwhile.
could you do expensive items in the star wars galaxy, like krayt dragon pearls, luxury items, the price to buy a moon or planet. I think that would be really interesting
X-Wing Alliance is great for the feeling of the size of the galaxy. You're an integral cog in a small family business, you work in gray markets, black markets, you do grunt work and field work, you join the rebellion, it's amazing. I'd love a free-roaming space sim version of it someday, something more like the X or Freelancer series.
Okay but what about like, the logistics industry? Is there a UPS of Star Wars? Do they never come to your door and make you go to the depot to get your packages? Are the large organizations we hear about like the trade federation like the Amazons of Star Wars, or are they more B2B but consumer sales are handled by smaller companies? I must know!!
Day twenty of asking Eck my question: #AskEck Why do you think the pirates kept grogu, there was quite obviously a bounty on him considering all the hunters with tracking fobes and I doubt they wouldn't have known about it, so we're actually protecting him. My theory is that after he was saved after the purge, so senator or rebel group hired these pirates to protect him, but was eventually captured by the empire or forgot about grogu, (why he was never given to the new republic after the war), and the pirates not knowing he was a jedi just kept and raised him till mando showed up, killed them and stole their kid.
The idea of shifting hyperspace routes and the desire for belligerent factions to disrupt them for military advantage. Especially in the hyperspace beacon era of the Ancient Republic.
Then there are those similar yet smaller versions of the Black Ice in the X-Wing Series game, which also have the engines and a front module with many different cargo containers strung out between the two modules.
Logistics have existed in Star Wars. It depends on factions. For example the Rebel Alliance focused more on a hit and run style of mobility on critical targets. Over say the Empire was more about swarm, intimidation and psychological tactics to overwhelm an adversary. As far as Smugglers, Pirates, and at times Syndicates. Most logistics involved utilizing smoke and mirrors/slide of hand logistics to maneuver and avoid those like the Empire along with bribery and subterfuge to try to keep in the shadows and operate on the fringe worlds/outer rim locations.
#AskEck What's the deal with Star Wars not giving the Turbo Tank more screen time and importance to the plot when it's not only a capable military vehicle, but it's also bad@$$ and awesome as much as it is extremely useful? AND WHAT'S EVEN THE POINT OF ADDING IT TO STAR WARS WHEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN GONNA USE IT RIGHT!!!???
@@tatepalmer1997 The big difference is that in the books, The Bugs use actual technology, in addition to specially breeding themselves for their roles. For example, they have something like the Tanker Bugs, but instead of just spraying acid, they have an actual energy weapon grafted onto them
#askeck what do you think of the current state of Star Wars and what do you think needs to change? like do you think star wars needs to be more mature and darker, or in some shift the overall theme of the franchise. also what do you think the producers could improve on, like better writing, better effects, etc. would love to hear your thoughts on it.
The logistics question I hear asked over and over again and not answered is supply sources, supply chains, supply lines and production capacity. Now, typically that is in terms of ships and ship maintenance parts, but more broadly, the large amounts of things that people are using and maintaining on a daily basis in the stories
I have a #askEck on Umbara. Why did the Republic invade Umbara so ill prepared? The only real artillery they used were AT-RTs, where were the AT-TEs or AT-APs? They knew how heavily armed the Umbarans were with Anakin outright telling the invasion force "Our biggest problem is going to be the local militia, the Umbarans have aligned themselves with the Separatists and are heavily armed" minutes before the campaign. Was their a blockade preventing them from getting through or some other planetary factors preventing their landing?
9:11 #askeck have you ever played the Star Wars d6 tabletop role-playing game? I ran a game and the adventure module is called Black ice and it features your favorite container ship the FSCV. The players have to capture it and then later ram it into a torpedo sphere. Very cool
Hey ECK, do you have any information on how navagation/exploration of the hyperlanes work? Were there any special ships or tech used to map hyperspace lanes.
#AskEck What is your opinion on the more fantasy side of Star Wars? Everyone always says Star Wars is sci-fi, but in my opinion it’s just as much fantasy.
#askeck has there ever been naturally occurring red kyber crystals? And if not what is the earliest appearance of a red kyber crystal in Star Wars history and who wielded it?
I'd like to see you tackle the nature of computers in this galaxy. Is there, in any modern extended material, any diegetic explanation for why a lot of them look so clunky (yet, clearly, fancier UI tech exists, thanks to the er the prequels debuted in)? Do computers play less of a direct role in their lives due to droids being basically a Siri-style intermediary interface, causing UI development to never be pursued outside slick Naboo yachts and Trade Federation ships?
The UI’s appear to be designed so the lowest common denominators, in terms of training or experience, can use them. Plus perhaps species that are not as dexterous. Pretty valuable for an empire with a conscripted military.
#AskEck Ships like the field secured container vessel transport tens of billions of tons of material but How is that much material transported into space (from a planet into orbit). IRL, transporting things through space is easy but getting things into orbit is hard and requires giant rockets: starship could probably push a small asteroid but can bring into orbit just a fraction of that weight. So how are billions of tones of rock and metal brought into space/orbit in StarWars?
#AskEck please can you explain more about hyperspace lanes? If they are like highways, how wide are they? Do ships in hyperspace see other ships flying the opposite direction - and if so, why don't they crash into each other? And if you have a better hyperdrive rating, do you "overtake" other ships in hyperspace - and again if so, what does that look like for the ships involved? Thank you.
#askEck Could you talk about Rebel/New Republic/Galactic Alliance tanks and other armored vehicles? They are the faction from whom we less know about their land forces, even once they became a major galactic power with the NR and the GA.
#askeck What would you consider the pinnacle of star wars ship building? Also Video suggestions MC40a Vs Vindicator class heavy cruiser MC80 Liberty Breakdown Pelta Class vs Nebulon-B
#askeck thank you for doing my topic, as a follow up can you please make a video about how multi species militaries handled logistics for such a wide variety of needs?
#AskEck I was reading the New Jedi Order book Destiny’s Way and they show that the empire now has an SSD and was wondering if it is just an executor or a different class. I was also wonder how the empire earlier was said to have poor economy, was able to afford to make ships such as this
Speaking of logistics, how exactly does Coruscant stay functional? As far as I can tell, they have no food production facilities at all (definitely no farmland), there may or may not be water (stored underground in Legends, unknown in the new canon)… It’s got to be a definite drain on galactic resources just to keep the *trillions* of inhabitants alive. I was kind of hoping that this video would at least casually mention that, but since it didn’t… Any chance of getting a part 2 that talks about it? 🙂
#AskEck Can you run the numbers for star wars demographics? There are numbers for member worlds, colonies, habitable but uninhabited planets, number of star sectors, total star destroyers, total population ect... Anyways what's the scale of the galaxy? On the one hand it is incomprehensibly massive, but on the other hand, I think you can actually fill out that total population number with just a handful of super populated systems like Corescent, Corellia, Kaut. Like if you extrapolate out based on the population distribution on earth, what does the galaxy look like? In the end are there only like 1000 systems that everyone knows and where pretty much everything of any importance happens? Some are extremely populated like Corescent and others like Tatooine are small and no one wants to live there, but important because a major figure lives there, or because of its location.
#AskEck Is there variability in Hyperspace travel speed depending on the ship? And if so what’s preventing a faster ship from colliding with a slower one during travel?
I get that things cost, abd with the Empire having a preference for big things, that adds up, but I still sometimes wonder how the Empire ever really feels strapped for cash, or resources? I seem to recall a comment in later Prequel Trilogy, where "another 10,000 systems hsve left the Republic, to join the CIS"and even that didn't really impair the Republic's ability to conduct war, or day to day activities. I assume that the Emperor reclaimed at least most of those, and can be much more draconian. Do Stormtroopers draw pay? Do they, and their families, simply receive a quantity of resources, and be convinced that is enough, or even decent? A single world could be worth heaps; enough that even the loss of one, like Alderaan, didn't dent Palpatine's bottom line, so if most people, on most planets, are kept at a low-functional level, without luxury purchases, and there are tens, or hundreds, of thousands of worlds...if asteroids, or even just worlds, say in the outer spans, can just be stripped for resources, and taxes abound, how is the Emperor ever worried about affording the next superweapon?
Tie Fighter the Steele Chronicles was such a big part of childhood. My first intro to Thrawn before I read his trilogy. Do you think it played a part or inspiration in Thrawn’s developing the Tie Defender in rebels as it was of significance in that game? #askeck
#AskEck Can you explain how tractor beams work. Can they only pull or push as well? Why cant they use thse to move astroids and stuff(there was an episode in the clone Wars were general grievous was stuck in an asteroid field where Anakin and ahsoka had to go behind them in spacesuits to defeat them how come can you just move the asteroids?)
#askeck Hello eck I love your channel and have been watching for years. The question I have is about something I read years ago but haven’t been able to find again. It was about the Antilles maneuver that wedge created during the battle of the first Death Star. What I read basically said that wedge can head on to the tie fighter on Luke’s tail and it wasn’t his blasters that destroyed the tie but it was his shields that destroyed it. Does this sound familiar or am I just misremembering something I read 15 years ago?
#askeck If you were somehow the Emperor, how would you have structured your massive fleet differently to be more effective at dealing with the Rebel Alliance and general security?
#askeck Hi Eck. Been following for a while now. Was wondering what your thoughts are on this: Would the Sequel trilogy have been better served if it was a Canon friendly version of the Thrawn Trilogy instead of something brand new?
#AskEck I just recently rewatched Andor and noticed for the first time that after the Aldhoni raid everytime there's an ISB meeting, their numbers get smaller and smaller. Are the officers just off on assignment or are they getting sacked for failures?
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Love these types of videos! Keep up the good work Eck
Thanks for doing my video suggestion Eck
Imagine you live in the Star Wars galaxy, you are browsing the holonet and watch the video of Emperor Palpatine announcing that he returned and destroyed some random planet with his ship, but he has like 3000 of these ships. Then you go to bed, and in the next day, you read that him and his ships were all destroyed
Lmao
Me: babe get the popcorn , new season of Galactic fockups Emperor edition started ...... Wait only 5 episodes ?
I love the idea of a galactic citizen so unimpacted by Palpatine’s return that he just goes straight back to bed and the crisis just ends overnight.
@@-caesarian-6078 If said galactic citizen doesn't play Fortnite they might not even know it happened until after it's all over.
Ha ha ha ha amazing
If games like Power Washer Simulator can exist and get more than decent sales, then a well made game about logistics in Star Wars is bound to have a little success I think.
Just a game about doing mundane tasks, in a fantastic universe
Just make factorio but make it an assembly line for ships, on Corellia or something
Elite dangerous is popular and a decent bit of that game is just running trade routes
EVE online exist.
But, a sim game like Transport Fever in space is good idea to exist
Tbh I spent a good chunk of time running cargo in Store (Star) Citizen, would still be doing it if the game wasn't so buggy and terrible.
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I remember when Eck posted the *_spicy_* video about Blockade Logistics. God I'm gonna love this video
This is a terrific vid. I'm actually finishing watching it twice now
I love logistics. I particularly think logistics can be a very interesting part of Star Wars. In particular I think that logistics would be very interesting in regard to the clone wars with an explanation of how the war worked. A lot of fans talk about how the Separatists would have won because of numbers but large numbers make logistics a lot more complicated and if the Republic wins victories especially by taking key hyperlanes. It would be a good way to better explain how the republic could be on even footing or even be winning when they are outnumbered. I wish that Star Wars should have more details on logistics as it’s such a critical point of the whole war thing
Tactics win battles but logistics win wars. Love it
I'd say the CIS would have a lesser headache than the GAR if it comes about logistics. Droids dont need to eat, drink or rest. All they need is energy and ammonation, which never seemed to be much of a concern in the Star wars galaxy. Also at least the B1s are very compact in during transport, so transporting them also is much easier, not to mention its less of a tragedy to lose a transport with a few thousand droids aboard than a transport of a few clone when each clone is as expensive as hundreds of B1s
@@alias_aka_alias spare parts, oil for maintaining, recharging stations, refueling blasters, and transporting. The droids have some logistical problems as well
@ while I do think what you say is true you must also remember that the Cis uses a lot of different droid types from different companies with differing types of ammunition and supplies. Droids also need repair parts as well. That complicates logistics as you need to supply large amounts of troops with specific supplies. The GAR uses very specific types of weapons and vehicles from the same manufacturer so would have less issues from needing different types. Clones may also need food and water but overall they likely need less than what the droid army needs just from its size.
@@generalsmite7167 the CIS Units all come from the same 3 or 4 manufacturers, besides some rather specific models like the Droidekas or TriFighters. All those Blaster need is tibanna gas and electricity. Spare parts are less of a concern, as damaged or destroyed units will be disassembled and repaired with the parts of their fallen comrades
I'm not sure why but I've always had a fascination with the technicalities of fictional universes, which is partly why I like this channel so much. You can give me small unit tactics from something like Gaunt's Ghosts, or obscure logistical info from something like this video and I'm all for it. I don't even like Star Wars very much as a series but still love obscure topics like this lmao
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'Field Secured Container Vessel' was the key focus of a West End Games Star Wars RPG module called 'Black Ice', as I recall.
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We going real far down the iceberg on this one. I’m here for it
That’s Clearly BLACK ICE, the Pride of the Imperial Resupply Fleet, which we created for the Star Wars West End Roleplaying Game.
Yep, I spotted that too. Really looking forward to running that mission in my campaign!
I saw your comment I thought of a hearts of iron 4 mod
A lot of ppl hate the GR-75 but it was a fuel/troop/med/fighter carrier & fire ship. It literally kept the RA Navy from dying in space.
When I think of logistics in Star Wars, I think of the GR-75. Gallofree blimpyboi for the win.
7:15, fleet tenders could also be what you'd describe the vat-grown protein rations that keep ships running on a full stomach in-between being resupplied.
This was partly a joke, but being able to grow your own food on-board a ship would be a sound way to extend a ship's mission profile.
I think I'm tapped out on new Star Wars forever (I'd be very happy to have my mind changed if they finally do something good again), but I'll be here watching these as long as Eck makes them.
They sacrificed the story for quick profits via political grandstanding. I prefer shows that don’t preach at their audience and assumes that their audience is smart enough to follow a complex plot. Star Wars sequels deserves to fail. With such a rich universe, it’s truly sad that we couldn’t be treated to something better than “less-than-mediocre.”
Engines larger than a Star Destroyer. I go down the logistics rabbit hole all the time and that was my most recent one. I was reading some Super Star Destroyer Executor schematics and realized that each of the 13 engines was the size of a standard Star Destroyer. There was rumored to be at least a dozen Executor class, so thats at least 156 SD sized engines that need to be produced. These were built by Cygnus. Thats all it said. The entire rest of the afternoon I thought about a rebel cell's entire operation was to disrupt the production of these absolutely colossal drive motors.
I imagined that, to reduce complexity but produce the amount of power required, an all new type of engine would need to be designed. The heat and pressure on the structure of these monsters would be insane. Imagine a thruster bell almost half a kilometer wide! These would be the pinnacle of imperial drive engines! Using incredibly powerfull magnetic turbines coupled to plasma injectors that could move not 100s of metric meters of plasma per sec but 1000s. The thrust rating of the new engines under full power would be enough to completely destroy a large capital ship caught too close inside its engine's exhaust wake.
These engines, despite being heavily shielded and built within a structure 25 meters thick were still very vulnerable to wear. The corrosive spalling caused by plamsa streams occasionally pushing through the magnetics would quickly wear the internals of the engine down to ever lower levels of effeciency. So some exotic materials need to be brought in. Vast quantities of Ranite was to be used to line the interior of the engine chambers, particularly ignition. This mineral, closely related to kyber, but denser and tougher also had valuable properties in energy absorbtion. Thereby greatly improving the components to spalling. Butbthis also provided the weak point in the logistical chain that the rebels could exploit. If one could reduce the amount of Ranite being integrated into SC10 naval construction steel, one could reduce the amount of Executor class star destroyers.
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Sci-fi logistics, the gift that keeps on giving. The supply that keeps on supplying.
Until the supply stops. Then things get Exciting.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics…”
SUN TZU.
Gesundheit!
@Fellow_Follower 😂
For logistics I've always had the head canon that Star Destroyers have the manufacturing capabilities to construct more tie fighters, and thus never need to replenish basic equipment, just fuel (if it can't find it's own) and more sophisticated replacement parts.
#askeck can you please do a video on the best or most exotic pets/beasts of burden and why/how they came to be domesticated? The biological diversity of the Star Wars universe has always unlocked the curiosity part of my brain.
Most of the tabletop RPG systems introduce a number of new transports and freighters as well. FFG introduced Stealth ships for both sides and while the Empire got a Stealth scout Frigates (So the Star Wars counterpart of Mass Effect's Normandy but with a fighter squadron in addition to her on board weapons) the Rebellion got a Stealth Light Freighter
#askeck speaking of logistics where do you think the Megador and the Dominion were during the vong invasion of the remnant? My theory they were heavily damaged before the Hand of thrawn duelgy then after peace was established afterwards there wasn't any rush to fix them. Once the vong invasion begins pelleon accelerates their repair and staffing, and training but the Crews are raw. When "two super star destroyers" are mentioned in Destiny's way its both of them on their first training cruise to show off above Bastion. I believe the Dominion was at prefsbelt during the "force hertic: remnant" and the Megador helped evacuate Bastion
My favourite parts of sci fi universes is always just learning about logistics, it's interesting. And my literal first youtuber i've watched for 6 years is making a video about my oldest favourite franchise. Let's goooo
Another good video on everyone's favorite Legends topic 😄
I think a video on the linguistical challenges faced by the SW characters would be an interesting one.
I recently decided to replay Knights of the Old Republic and in the very beginning, one of the characters mentions that your ability to understand most alien languages is rather unexpected for a rookie such as yourself. That made me wonder for a bit.
We know most people understand Twi'lek, and that Han Solo knows Wookie(of course he does, they are friends) and apparently, most people seem to understand Hutt...
But there is also a "galactic common language" that everyone seems to understand. Yet, at the same time, there seems to be a big market for protocol droids, whose job is to translate the many many languages across the world.
What I am most wondering about is just how many years the average person in the Star Wars universe is expected to spend on learning all these radically different languages.
If you met someone who speaks English, German, Spanish, Italian, French, Russian, Polish...you'd assume this person is either an immortal vampire or someone with seriously advanced language acquisition skills.
Star Wars just brushes that aside with "yeah, guy understands thirty radically different languages that evolved separately for thousands of years"
Most of the languages I listed have roots in Latin and they can be pronounced by humans with human mouths.
What would compel anyone to learn a language like wookie, that can't possibly be even spoken by them?
And Han Solo isn't just like "yeah, wookie hungry" he seems to understand the subtle nuances where he's like "yeah, Chewie wants us to realign the flux condenser"
I also find it rather endearing that sometimes they talk in their own language to someone speaking the galactic common language.
When was the last time you heard a conversation where one guy spoke one language and another guy spoke another, and they seem to have understood each other perfectly and this whole situation posed no issues whatsoever?
People tend to speak using the common language they both understand. I think that if I spoke twi'lek and french and you spoke twi'lek and french, we'd just stick to either.
It's just a bizarre situation that I don't think is adequately explained, sorry for the overlong rant.
...starting to think that approaching Star Wars as if it were a sci-fi is an ultimately pointless endeavor. The first line literally begs you to suspend your disbelief.
i would love to get a film or short about an imperial convoy getting attacked by rebel ships, something like greyhound with just a few ships trying to protect a bunch of slow lightly armed transports
So... Battlestar Galactica
@@Grizabeebles guess ill take your word for it ive seen very little from the franchise and know less of what its about
I would love to see a video on how hyperspace works, specifically needing to get a run up to light speed. In the movies this is not talked about much, but at the books it is talked about a lot. There is some conflicting information out there and I would love to see you cover it.
#askeck Can you give a 10 minute dissertation on the difference between how canon and legends have dealt with the evolution of the rebel fighter fleet? I always felt like x-wings and y-wings were adopted earlier, with A-wings and B-wings being developed later to fit specialized niches, but Star Wars rebels seems to show the reverse happening. What are your thoughts?
Can't speak for Eck, but in Legends it was all about the rebel fighters having on-board hyperdrives. When the carrier can be multiple star-systems and the hangar can be a concealed base almost anywhere in the galaxy, there's no real way to stop a hit-and-run attack or a raid.
Remember, the crawl for Episode 4 specifically calls the theft of the Death Star plans the rebellion's "first victory."
Watching "Rebels", the fighters are introduced mostly as 'whatever the Rebels can get their hands on' with the X-Wing gradually becoming the 'all-in-one' mainstay.
@@Grizabeebles I agree with everything you just said. In the original empire at war rebel campaign, “anything they could get their hands on” was represented by Z 95s and Y wings. Eventually, they steal the prototypes for X wings, and a group of Incom Designers defect. I was under the impression that as the rebels’ capacity grew after the destruction of the first death star, they were able to start manufacturing their own fighters, which is where a-wings and b-wings came from.
That’s why I thought it was interesting that Phoenix squadron in rebels uses a-wings, and even gets a prototype b-wing before they even pick up the y-wings that they donate to Jan Dodanna.
@@TazOnTheReel -- The rebels manufacturing their own fighters in games like "Empire at War" is an artifact of it being a video game. The lore I'm familiar with says that the vast majority of the rebels' X-WIng fleet was just straight-up purchased from Incom througb shell companies and the like.
@@Grizabeebles At the very least, according to legends Wookieepedia, A-wings were designed and manufactured by the alliance in secret factories
@@TazOnTheReel The X-Wing's story is almost unchanged so far, relative to EaW. Some do show pretty early in Andor though.
The A-Wing is heavily changed, and there's now a predecessor version.
The B-Wing was in prototype a long time meanwhile.
could you do expensive items in the star wars galaxy, like krayt dragon pearls, luxury items, the price to buy a moon or planet. I think that would be really interesting
That Y-Wing Sky Rogue mod looks cool
X-Wing Alliance is great for the feeling of the size of the galaxy. You're an integral cog in a small family business, you work in gray markets, black markets, you do grunt work and field work, you join the rebellion, it's amazing. I'd love a free-roaming space sim version of it someday, something more like the X or Freelancer series.
I've been waiting for you to do a video on SW logistics, I've done at least one ask eck question on it
Okay but what about like, the logistics industry? Is there a UPS of Star Wars? Do they never come to your door and make you go to the depot to get your packages? Are the large organizations we hear about like the trade federation like the Amazons of Star Wars, or are they more B2B but consumer sales are handled by smaller companies?
I must know!!
Day twenty of asking Eck my question:
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Why do you think the pirates kept grogu, there was quite obviously a bounty on him considering all the hunters with tracking fobes and I doubt they wouldn't have known about it, so we're actually protecting him. My theory is that after he was saved after the purge, so senator or rebel group hired these pirates to protect him, but was eventually captured by the empire or forgot about grogu, (why he was never given to the new republic after the war), and the pirates not knowing he was a jedi just kept and raised him till mando showed up, killed them and stole their kid.
Isn't there several scenes that say Grogu was already an expetimental subject and got stolen from the Imperials before the show even starts?
The idea of shifting hyperspace routes and the desire for belligerent factions to disrupt them for military advantage. Especially in the hyperspace beacon era of the Ancient Republic.
Hey Eck, geat job with the Video. It was a Climax from start to finish. Isn't it good isn't is great? The Climax Jump. (Loved your end song)
Then there are those similar yet smaller versions of the Black Ice in the X-Wing Series game, which also have the engines and a front module with many different cargo containers strung out between the two modules.
Logistics have existed in Star Wars. It depends on factions. For example the Rebel Alliance focused more on a hit and run style of mobility on critical targets. Over say the Empire was more about swarm, intimidation and psychological tactics to overwhelm an adversary.
As far as Smugglers, Pirates, and at times Syndicates. Most logistics involved utilizing smoke and mirrors/slide of hand logistics to maneuver and avoid those like the Empire along with bribery and subterfuge to try to keep in the shadows and operate on the fringe worlds/outer rim locations.
#AskEck What's the deal with Star Wars not giving the Turbo Tank more screen time and importance to the plot when it's not only a capable military vehicle, but it's also bad@$$ and awesome as much as it is extremely useful? AND WHAT'S EVEN THE POINT OF ADDING IT TO STAR WARS WHEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN GONNA USE IT RIGHT!!!???
Meanwhile in Legend of the Galactic Heroes...sue me for bringing it up again but it's just that great.
Hey Eck. The grysks also used moons to pull ships out of hyperspace.
#AskEck What are your thoughts on the 'Essential Guide' sourcebook series and which would you recommend most?
Factions compared idea sci fi insect swarm. Such as Tyranids, Arachnids, Zerg, Rachni, Terminids.
Movie Arachnids or the original book ones?
@ what’s the difference?
@@tatepalmer1997 The big difference is that in the books, The Bugs use actual technology, in addition to specially breeding themselves for their roles. For example, they have something like the Tanker Bugs, but instead of just spraying acid, they have an actual energy weapon grafted onto them
@@weldonwin then the movie version
I could listen to so much star wars logistics lol
8:55 SW Outlaws had it too, or atm least a similar looking ship
Was not expecting Kamen Rider music in a Star Wars video today, I gotta say
#askeck what do you think of the current state of Star Wars and what do you think needs to change? like do you think star wars needs to be more mature and darker, or in some shift the overall theme of the franchise. also what do you think the producers could improve on, like better writing, better effects, etc. would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Oh new ending theme,
I like resonance more tbh, i think you should keep it,
Love new outro song
The logistics question I hear asked over and over again and not answered is supply sources, supply chains, supply lines and production capacity. Now, typically that is in terms of ships and ship maintenance parts, but more broadly, the large amounts of things that people are using and maintaining on a daily basis in the stories
Tie fighter was such a great game.
I have a #askEck on Umbara. Why did the Republic invade Umbara so ill prepared? The only real artillery they used were AT-RTs, where were the AT-TEs or AT-APs? They knew how heavily armed the Umbarans were with Anakin outright telling the invasion force "Our biggest problem is going to be the local militia, the Umbarans have aligned themselves with the Separatists and are heavily armed" minutes before the campaign. Was their a blockade preventing them from getting through or some other planetary factors preventing their landing?
#AskEck what do you think is the best armor material besides beskar?
Plot Armor. >;)
the feeling when you're watching a video released 10 min ago ...
and want to comment something but don't know what to comment
I can't wait to play "Black Ice" with my RPG group
I needed this one cheers 🍻
9:11 #askeck have you ever played the Star Wars d6 tabletop role-playing game? I ran a game and the adventure module is called Black ice and it features your favorite container ship the FSCV. The players have to capture it and then later ram it into a torpedo sphere. Very cool
#AskEck logistics specifically on mining/the procurement of materials
Hey ECK, do you have any information on how navagation/exploration of the hyperlanes work? Were there any special ships or tech used to map hyperspace lanes.
#AskEck What is your opinion on the more fantasy side of Star Wars? Everyone always says Star Wars is sci-fi, but in my opinion it’s just as much fantasy.
LOGISTICSSSSSS!!!! LETS GOOOOOO!!!!
Keep that hog cranked thanks for the videos
#askeck has there ever been naturally occurring red kyber crystals? And if not what is the earliest appearance of a red kyber crystal in Star Wars history and who wielded it?
I'd like to see you tackle the nature of computers in this galaxy. Is there, in any modern extended material, any diegetic explanation for why a lot of them look so clunky (yet, clearly, fancier UI tech exists, thanks to the er the prequels debuted in)? Do computers play less of a direct role in their lives due to droids being basically a Siri-style intermediary interface, causing UI development to never be pursued outside slick Naboo yachts and Trade Federation ships?
The UI’s appear to be designed so the lowest common denominators, in terms of training or experience, can use them. Plus perhaps species that are not as dexterous. Pretty valuable for an empire with a conscripted military.
very tired, saw the thumbnail and thought it was some weird super star destroyer XD
#AskEck Ships like the field secured container vessel transport tens of billions of tons of material but How is that much material transported into space (from a planet into orbit). IRL, transporting things through space is easy but getting things into orbit is hard and requires giant rockets: starship could probably push a small asteroid but can bring into orbit just a fraction of that weight. So how are billions of tones of rock and metal brought into space/orbit in StarWars?
#AskEck please can you explain more about hyperspace lanes? If they are like highways, how wide are they? Do ships in hyperspace see other ships flying the opposite direction - and if so, why don't they crash into each other? And if you have a better hyperdrive rating, do you "overtake" other ships in hyperspace - and again if so, what does that look like for the ships involved? Thank you.
#askEck Could you talk about Rebel/New Republic/Galactic Alliance tanks and other armored vehicles? They are the faction from whom we less know about their land forces, even once they became a major galactic power with the NR and the GA.
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What would you consider the pinnacle of star wars ship building?
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#askeck thank you for doing my topic, as a follow up can you please make a video about how multi species militaries handled logistics for such a wide variety of needs?
#AskEck I was reading the New Jedi Order book Destiny’s Way and they show that the empire now has an SSD and was wondering if it is just an executor or a different class. I was also wonder how the empire earlier was said to have poor economy, was able to afford to make ships such as this
Speaking of logistics, how exactly does Coruscant stay functional? As far as I can tell, they have no food production facilities at all (definitely no farmland), there may or may not be water (stored underground in Legends, unknown in the new canon)… It’s got to be a definite drain on galactic resources just to keep the *trillions* of inhabitants alive. I was kind of hoping that this video would at least casually mention that, but since it didn’t… Any chance of getting a part 2 that talks about it? 🙂
Once saw a comment about someone seeing a "miniature model" of the thumbnail ship in his ..moms bedroom....
Yes
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Could a Clone Legion (with/without a Jedi general) successfully siege Earth and terminate Skynet??
#AskEck Can you run the numbers for star wars demographics? There are numbers for member worlds, colonies, habitable but uninhabited planets, number of star sectors, total star destroyers, total population ect... Anyways what's the scale of the galaxy?
On the one hand it is incomprehensibly massive, but on the other hand, I think you can actually fill out that total population number with just a handful of super populated systems like Corescent, Corellia, Kaut.
Like if you extrapolate out based on the population distribution on earth, what does the galaxy look like? In the end are there only like 1000 systems that everyone knows and where pretty much everything of any importance happens? Some are extremely populated like Corescent and others like Tatooine are small and no one wants to live there, but important because a major figure lives there, or because of its location.
I love me some logistics
#askeck what is your least favorite part of Star Wars ‘world building’ and your favorite?
#AskEck Is there variability in Hyperspace travel speed depending on the ship? And if so what’s preventing a faster ship from colliding with a slower one during travel?
imagine if we just had the holonet. Life would be much more simple.
I get that things cost, abd with the Empire having a preference for big things, that adds up, but I still sometimes wonder how the Empire ever really feels strapped for cash, or resources? I seem to recall a comment in later Prequel Trilogy, where "another 10,000 systems hsve left the Republic, to join the CIS"and even that didn't really impair the Republic's ability to conduct war, or day to day activities. I assume that the Emperor reclaimed at least most of those, and can be much more draconian. Do Stormtroopers draw pay? Do they, and their families, simply receive a quantity of resources, and be convinced that is enough, or even decent? A single world could be worth heaps; enough that even the loss of one, like Alderaan, didn't dent Palpatine's bottom line, so if most people, on most planets, are kept at a low-functional level, without luxury purchases, and there are tens, or hundreds, of thousands of worlds...if asteroids, or even just worlds, say in the outer spans, can just be stripped for resources, and taxes abound, how is the Emperor ever worried about affording the next superweapon?
I work in logistics, this should be intresting. I wonder if its any different
Tie Fighter the Steele Chronicles was such a big part of childhood. My first intro to Thrawn before I read his trilogy. Do you think it played a part or inspiration in Thrawn’s developing the Tie Defender in rebels as it was of significance in that game? #askeck
#AskEch Who are your top 5 favorite villains in all of canon and legends?
#AskEck What do u think about doing vids on each sector in the Star Wars Legends universe? I don’t think anyone has done that yet.
I thought logistics didn't apply to star wars, not when the emperor can just pull 10,000 massive star destroyers out of his ass when convenient 😂
#askeck is there a video yet for star wars job salaries?
#AskEck Can you explain how tractor beams work. Can they only pull or push as well? Why cant they use thse to move astroids and stuff(there was an episode in the clone Wars were general grievous was stuck in an asteroid field where Anakin and ahsoka had to go behind them in spacesuits to defeat them how come can you just move the asteroids?)
#askeck Hello eck I love your channel and have been watching for years. The question I have is about something I read years ago but haven’t been able to find again. It was about the Antilles maneuver that wedge created during the battle of the first Death Star. What I read basically said that wedge can head on to the tie fighter on Luke’s tail and it wasn’t his blasters that destroyed the tie but it was his shields that destroyed it. Does this sound familiar or am I just misremembering something I read 15 years ago?
I miss the old ending theme 😢
The High Republic was flawed from the first book, with the great hyperspace disaster, that made zero sense
#askeck If you were somehow the Emperor, how would you have structured your massive fleet differently to be more effective at dealing with the Rebel Alliance and general security?
#askeck What would you have the plot be for the new announced trilogy if you were in charge?
A big apology for ruining star wars from Disney would be good first part , I know it's very imaginary , but hey , it is a Sci fi movie 😂🎉
#askeck Hi Eck. Been following for a while now. Was wondering what your thoughts are on this:
Would the Sequel trilogy have been better served if it was a Canon friendly version of the Thrawn Trilogy instead of something brand new?
New outro?
#AskEck I just recently rewatched Andor and noticed for the first time that after the Aldhoni raid everytime there's an ISB meeting, their numbers get smaller and smaller. Are the officers just off on assignment or are they getting sacked for failures?
What was Emperor Palpatine's tax policy?
What is the colossus from Star Wars resistance also not a refuelling station/ship from the Imperial era
#askeck what would've phase 3 clone armor looked like if the Clones weren't phased out
#askeck what books would you recommend reading before NJO?